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February 3, 2026 • 16 mins

Today on the pod you'll hear the guys ask "when do you know you've gotten old?", and also a chat about some of their low level sporting achievements.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
I've found the article about how old at what point
you age? Oh yep, that's not linear, so we age
in spurts. Yeah, one of the first ones at forty
four years old. Yeah, and the second ones at sixty
oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
So you had a good theory that it was. It's
basically when you start losing motor functions that's been near Yeah,
because we noticed that it's not a long, slow decline.
You you've fallen into a patch of a dude, can
be between thirty and fifteen. It could be any age
between them. I've been there for a long time. And
then after that it's like it's it's a sharp inclined

(00:45):
deckline decline.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Deckcline line definitely not tine. It's an inclined towards the end.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
If that's how you want to describe it.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
So what did you say forty four is the first
one yet? Yeah, that'd be right. Have you had that?
You had yours at about forty A I think you.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
I had mine a few years later.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
You had yours last year when you had a fall
trying to check the footy around with your son.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Oh my god. Well before that I had operation. I
think that sort of set me back. But it's funny
how you definitely go go down. Then your plateau for
some period of time, and then you definitely go down,
and you really notice it because a number of things.
But when you get to ages where you remember your parents'

(01:27):
birthdays and stuff like I remember my parents my mum's fiftieth. Yeah,
like really, well, I went to my mum's fiftieth. I
remember thinking, fuck, you guys are old and I am
now that. And it's then to think from then to now,
So their life from then to now. My mum's now
eighty one, and that thirty one years go has gone

(01:52):
super quiet, And yet they seem to me to be
kind of the same as they were. Well, actually they've
gone down again, because what do you go forty four
wins one sexty. Isn't there another one at eighty or something?

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Oh well, this is an American study, so that'll be
did by then.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
But right, yeah, so you're you're thirty four.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I'm thirty four, but I am actually I feel like
like what agau visus? What age, do you feel like?
I feel like I'm thirty six, And I felt like
I'm thirty six basically since I turned eighteen.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Okay, yeah, oh that's the s quite good.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
People have always thought I was that age as well,
Like when I started at Haodaki all those years ago,
I must have been twenty eight something like that, and
I went for a beer with Kate from down the
office and she goes, I say, how many kids you got?
I was like, I don't have any kids. She's like,
how old are you? If you know my mouse? And
I was twenty eight. I thought you were my age.
And Kate's oldest. Shit, all right, it's Kate's sixty something.

(02:48):
Kate's so fucking old. Oh shit, it's got a thousand kids.
I don't know if she listens to this podcast. So
but if you know Kate, can you litle know, like, yeah,
absolutely so old.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, Rudy, you're forty five, four, forty six, forty six.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
I'm forty six. And I was about to make a
stupid claim considering what I'm like, which is highly uncoordinated,
that I haven't had. I haven't had this moment where
I've suddenly I've suddenly realized, but.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
You've been the same for some time.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, you've got a low baseline to comparatist. How would
you know if you've declined. It's like giving a prop
an hiatist and rugby league. It's like, well he was
already done before.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yes, yeah, Because for yours, when was the last time
you fell in love? That's when you stop falling in love.
That's when you know you've gone into a new zone.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Because if you haven't listened to the radio showy Ruder's
number was twelve?

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Is it thirteen? Now?

Speaker 2 (03:35):
On the podcast he's fallen in love again? Since I haven't, ye,
well I may as well know. So that would be
when you're going to fall in love with yourself?

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Man, where God, I don't think you want to be
doing that. I seen a few people do that before.
It's dangerous.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
How's anyone else supposed to love you? If you love yourself?
Oh God, it's never made any senseident No.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
What do you mean? Love yourself?

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Learning to love yourself is the greatest love of all.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
No, it's no. People bond over what they hate me
and my messes. Me and my missus bonded over the
deep deep hatred we both have for me. Something we
can both agree on.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
The idea of loving yourself is like, look, you're stuck
with yourself. You are, You've got to tolerate yourself. You've
got to learn to tolerate yourself, but you don't need
to love it. Like, what do you I mean, we
will make love to ourselves. That's that's a slightly different thing.
But you know what do you You can't be actually thinking,
you know what? I just think I'm amazing how I
do this.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
I know some people who think that what you know?

Speaker 3 (04:38):
I think? So I know I do. I know those
people don't want know that very impressed with themselves.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yes, oh god, I love when those people get on
the purse because you know, drunk man speaks is so
mind And when they start getting drunk and just get
really impressed with themselves.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
My favorite. I love to just go to people like
that when they're on the person that's talking about it,
hate it and how I mean they were back in
the day and just put of their tires. Whoa different
check every week?

Speaker 3 (05:04):
You're the man?

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Tell me more.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
I know it's worse actually, people that love their former
self or love themselves now. I think it's better the
people that love their former selves. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
There's the high school guy. You know, there's some guys
you meet who was stuck in high school. That was
the peak of their powers and they still like to
talk about it. We won thirty four or twelve over
high school and that high school I remember. I think
I was even about thirty and someone in Timorrow I met,

(05:38):
I knew, but they were bringing up the time their
basketball team beat my basketball team when we were like sixteen, right,
and I was like thirty years That was fourteen years ago.
You know, I don't like you. There's anything happened for
you since then.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, I just.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Feel like I didn't really have very good moments in school.
In high school, I remember once because I was awful
at sport, like terrible, really so bad, so bad. But
I do me awful. I would have thought you'd be brilliant, you.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Know, you you who have to actively think about which
hand to move it at the same time as which league
while sprinting. You forgot to run as fast as you
could in the.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
That is one of the most remarkable things. Unpleasing reminded
me of that. I've never met anybody who's ever entered
a race and not considered the idea that they'd be
running as fast as they possibly could see if you
were more focused on not falling over.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Not getting injured. Was my focus at the time. I
was like, I'm just going to run, not get injured.
And then all of a sudden, a man who's slightly
older than me absolutely smoking on the outside, and I
was like, I got a run.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
I'm so glad I was. I'm so glad I wasn't running.
His monoch.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Murdered me.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
I was useless at school. I do the only the
only thing that was a good sporting moment for me.
We had that guy at school. His name was Jodie Wall,
and he was so good at everything. He played rugby,
he was little, played rugby, played cricket, won all the
athletics and everything like that, and I was hit boy
by default.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
No one else wanted to do it.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
I was hit boy.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
And they were like, oh, we're going to play this
little cricket tournament. I know you like cricket even though
you shit at it. Do you want to come along?

Speaker 2 (07:17):
And yeah?

Speaker 4 (07:17):
I went along. And we had two games, one where
I bowled at my brother. I bowled twelve wides and
one over expensive, but I also bowled him around his
legs because he wasn't expecting it to come back. The
other one working to a plan shame, but there was this.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Hold on wait one twelve wides on one over.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
So then I have a rule where it's like right
after a certain amount of wids, sure having a great.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Time eighteen an eighteen ballover.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
One wicket, though, bro one wicket.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
That's like a record, and that's a pretty good average.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
It was. I think that's a world record. Like nobody's
ever bowled eighteen balls in and over before he was
eleven or something like that.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
And and and then the game I was up against
Jody Wall and I was very lucky because the drizzle
had started coming in, so the ball was actually coming
out of no ball was actually coming out.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Of my hand well quite well.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
And there was this magnificent moment where they needed two
runs off the last ball.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Bowl bit funkard over here were you bowling the last death?

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Because it was it was one of those double wicket
tournaments where it was just me and one other guy
and he'd already bowled, and the hope that he would
get them out and it was just.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Hope that you wouldn't have to do it to me.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
And they needed two runs off and I was like, oh, well,
I mean it's coming out all right, so let's see
what happens. And he played it down the pitch and
I dived and I grabbed it and I flung it
back at the wicket keep it and it was right
near the stumps and he took it and he ran
him out and I won my game. Oh okay against
Jody Wall, the absolute jock of our school.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
This is a great redemption. This should be made into
a film, you know what. This is a great redemption story.
The man who bolt eighteen an eighteen ballo. Yeah, and
the same game then with the runout of the sports jock,
superhero of the school. Yeah. Gee.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
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Speaker 3 (09:19):
You not told us that story before. That's your greatest ever,
your greatest moment possibly in your life.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
I've not told you about the time I played guitar
in the orchestra because I did that a lot at school.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
But I feel that there's something in that.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Get in the barbershop called it, I know, just this
just a.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Choir, there's something in there getting people to call in
with their sports hero moments because you know, like a
lot of times people don't really want to hear that. Yeah,
but everyone's got one, Everyone's got yours?

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Was charging? Was yours? Charging? Down there? Charge?

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Doown a conversion against Timoka into Merca, by the way,
So they still sing songs about that in South Canterbery.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, what was you yours?

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Because you had a bed of a sport career? Are
we saying at school?

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Mine was a day a traditional fixture versus Hamilton Boys
High some Pauls versus Hamilton Boys High first eleven, nineteen
ninety four, probably about March, and I took six for
twenty four six between four in a one day game.
Patrick Ye, no hat trick, No hat trick, But it

(10:24):
was it was one of those days.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
I never forget that. It just it was all going well,
It was all going well. Do you feel like you
were doing nothing and it was just all working.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
I just I can it was. Looking back on it,
it was always going to happen. But going into that game,
I just didn't know that I was going to do that.
And then and it was in front of the whole
school too, because it was a traditional fixture and everyone
had lunch time off, so the whole school was there.
Dad wasn't there. Dad wasn't allowed to watch me playing,
and I want my dad watching me game. But I
think my mum was there and last time she was

(10:56):
proud of you, probably, But my name's up on the
honors board at Saint Paul's with that, so it goes yep.
D Elvatory, who was in my team, took five for
something JJ d Wells six for twenty four versus boys,
then Dalvatory, so I'm the meat and the delvatry samd
wwhich he took two five bags on either side of

(11:17):
my five bags. But yeah, you get up on the
board for taking scoring one hundred and they're all taking
five worckets. So that was my That was definitely my moment. Yeah,
that's what about.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yeah, what was your highest score with the bat at
the level of cricket.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
First living cricket. I scored a I scored a sixty five.
But I used to bet it. I used to bet
it eight behind Vittoria, which is always disappointing. But I
scored a sixty five not out in a game once.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
I I once scored about We're playing a basketball game
into school, and I scored like honestly ten or twelve
points to bring us back to within to tie the
game in the fourth quarter. And then I got to steal.
I threw the ball ahead. This guy got fouled and

(12:07):
then shot the game winning free throws and then won
an award at assembly the next day. And I was
fucking spitting tacks.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
The assist there.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
I know, I know, I'm probably triple double fucking and
I just remember that.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Guy did he?

Speaker 2 (12:23):
I think that might have been the only POINTY scored
in the game. It was pretty clutch, like it was second.
It was the Hollywood ending. You know, you had to
hit the free the buzzer had already gone off, had
to hit the free throw for the one.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
You hadn't missed a thousand points going into that, Like
is that to make it a Hollywood You've got to
have the you know, the despicable part to it too,
which is a murder's situation. What I'm despicable, Well, I
mean eighteen balls, And I mean that's kind of like
just if I was umpiring and be like, okay, that's
enough now mate. We get to sort of ball number thirteen,

(12:53):
You're like, okay, we'll end this now. I mean it
was the umpire that was calling the whites.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Carl Zimmermann. I believe it was one year younger than
me at school because we were all taking our turns
at umpiring.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Oh and he would have been like, let's see how
long it was over from mcgilla goes here.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
We should do this tomorrow on the radio. We should
do you like we're opening it up the greatest sporting moment. Yeah,
what is it? Everyone has one?

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Everyone has on yet I've been kicked off two separate
cricket fields before.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
The first.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
The first was probably why man his answer to ruder
and he was bowling what we efficiently referred to back
in the day as donkey drops. Familiar with the donkey.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Dropper, It just.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Heats deliveries, Yeah, yes, And these were enormous donkey drops.
And I was feeling it like silly mid on sort
of areas, and I was like, I reckon. I could
run across the pitch while the balls in the air.
Is how high these things are going. So I was
talking to the keeper of my mate. I was like, trigger,
I could run under one of these thing he's going
to go And so I ran under there.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
And the umpire was also our coach, like, get off.
These kids are already struggling so hard. We're trying to teach
him the thing, and you've just pissed all over his
confidence by running underneath one of his balls.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I think that's perfectly legal, though, because because he's released
the ball. Yeah, you're allowed to move as a fielder,
to move across the pitch. Could of anybody even contemplating
in that before running across the bus. I like that.
I love it. Building it slim it on when you've
got donkey drops going because someone's just going to pull

(14:33):
the ball straight into you.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah. Yeah, that's ridiculous. So there's that, And then we
were this is this is this one was bad. We
were hit by like fucking three hundred runs. We used
to do two day test matches, so you go and
play them and then you play them again the next week,
and we were hit by like a billion runs and
they were down to their last better and I was

(14:56):
I've been made to run point to point second this,
So I just sat down and I'm by who was again?
Our coach was standing at square legs like stand up.
I was like, mate, fucking three hundred runs clear, there's
one workt to go. I'm bugging and I'm sitting down
and he goes, no, no, you've got to You've got
to stand up, and I gave him the fingers.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
He's can get out. Oh you're out, Yeah, you're get expelled.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
No, no, well this wasn't for the school, okay, so
but yeah, and then I had to go and sit
on the thing. And then he must have wrung my
nana because she come back. She came down. She's like,
why are you sitting on the sidelines.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
I was like, I did the fingers to the coach,
gave up the fingers.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
That's disgusting, grabbing by the ear and I was away, Oh,
here we go, listen learned. I was like, that was
despicable behavior.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
And sometimes you got to be showing the door. Yeah,
in those situations, I was like, non, we weren't going
to lose that, we were wasting them.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
She's like, these kids have driven from fucking Tamorarid. Their
parents are sitting on the sideline. It's given up a
lot of time to be here, and you're disrespecting not
only them, the coach down from a hereafter man did
yeah have to atone for my sins after that? Yeah,
But we live and we learned.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Okay, all right, I think I think we should stop
doing this.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Thank you, all right, Jerry and Maniah. Catch the radio
show from six to ten weekdays. The Hadarchy Breakfast
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