March 25, 2026 • 9 mins
Today on the podcast the guys catch up with Nick Robinson - bass and synth player for Shapeshifter!
The live drum and bass legends are hitting the road this winter to celebrate the 20th anniversary of their iconic album Soulstice.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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show The Hurdaki Breakfast podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
How's everything going with you?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
It's really good, Yeah, really good. Just release the tour
and it's going well. So wan Occer out so already.
So yeah, stoked.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
It's quite a tour because I'm just lock here neck
in the cargo, Dunedin, Juarnica, christ Church, myth and Wellington,
Huanganui and you Plymouth. That's a lot of that's a
lot of dates. But I see you doing a bit
in May, three days in May, and then you're doing
a bit in June, and then you're taking a break
and you're going a bit in July. How come you're
(00:42):
doing it that way?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
It's just you know, I'm going to work too hard,
you know, just you need that holiday break in between,
you know, I did.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
I do notice looking at it written down, there is
a ten day gap between the Wonka and christ Church gigs.
Is it fear to assume that there's a few members
of the band that ski or no board there is
there is?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
No, I think I think we probably you know, it's
best to do things in weekends. Yeah, you know, so
that's that was a sort of goal, And yeah, they
were just the sort of venue availabilities and and things
like that, so that's that's why that happened that way.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
But yeah, you got you guys go pretty hard on stage.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
How do you go three nights on the trot?
Speaker 5 (01:28):
What are you doing between gigs to make sure that
you can get up and do it again the next night?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
You know, ice baths, power aid, recovery drinks, you know, stretches,
things like that.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yeah, education, sauna's hot cold therapy.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
So it's it's to celebrate the twentieth anniversary of Solstice.
Now are you So are you going to play the album?
Is that the way that it works or what are
you going to do?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, we are going to play pretty much all of
the album.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
There's a couple of little interludy things that we won't
we but yeah, we're going to play the rest of
the album. So there's a couple of new songs we're
going to learn that we've never played live, one or
two that we have have not played since back in
the day when we did the album tour two thousand
and seven. So yeah, yeah, so yeah, that's the goal
(02:19):
to play pretty much for the album, and then it
will a few extras as well.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
It's one of those albums that I think that every
car in the two thousands had a copy of in it,
you know what I mean? Like I had a little
Walk What were they said, the discom a discman at
the time with the anti shock technology in it. And
I flew over to my family lives in Australia and
I bought one at the airport and I just hammered
that thing the whole way over there, went through the batteries.
(02:46):
So this is an album that I know a lot
of people know cover to cover. There's something about going
to a gig where you know all of the songs
and you know what one's coming next. Is it as
much fun to play that way as it is to
listen to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well we've never really done it like that before, so
it will be. It will be fun and you know,
just sort of getting to know the songs and those
in that.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Order and what you're expecting to hear next, and yeah,
it will be. It will be a buzz buzz.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
It will be very nostalgic to go back to those days,
the old CD Walkman days I did I had I
Had a Walk woman as well the CD discman, sorry,
Andy Shoppon never really worked.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Man, it was such a gimmick. This is the problem.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
And no, they're really leaning on it to it's Andy
Skip technology and there was something about it would like preload.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
The next ten seconds of the song so that, but
it just never worked.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
It didn't work.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
It didn't work.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I wondered that because obviously everybody else has consumed it
as an album, But how many times did you listen
to the album from start to finish, because it's completely
different when you create the album as to when you
experience the album as a listener.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Consume.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, a lot, like a lot.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Like we recorded it in Kaikota, and the first place
I lived there when we were doing the recording was
in South Bay. So I don't know if you know
quite well, but South Bay is kind of over the hell,
so it's quite a way way away.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
But I didn't have a car or anything.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
We were completely broke, so i'd walk each day from
South Bay over the hell, probably like a forty five
minute walk or an hour walk or so. And I
can't remember if I had it on my iPod, if
we were burning CDs and I was actually listening to
it on my discumen, I would listen to the songs
going over the hell and sort of in order as well,
(04:41):
so you kind of get that sort of album feeling,
and because that was the sort of goal to make
an album, you know, not just like a bunch of songs,
but just actually that sort of album thing. Yeah, every
day over the hell listening to it and then to
getting into the studio and you get heaps of ideas
(05:03):
of what to do and you know what to change,
and yeah, listening to it like thousands of times, so
many times over the hell back over there, and then
probably once it's released never.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
That's the thing you don't you don't, but everyone else
is consuming it in a completely different way. The other
part for you is, I guess as a musician, it's
a moment in time, right and probably your tastes, the
way you feel about things probably moves on and there
it is cemented in time forever. It was coming back
(05:40):
to it, and I guess you guys have got to
practice it and perform what was coming back to it?
Was it nostalgic for you?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
It's kind of like looking at an old photo album,
you know, like just makes heaps of memories flood back,
and you know, it was a pretty cool time. We'd
sort of taken ourselves out of Melbourne. We were all
living in Melbourne, and you know, Melbourne was kind of
one of those sort of go out five nights of
the week type places, and then we just all of
(06:09):
a sudden we were and kayaks all living together in
a little sort of batch and it was just a
real sort of magical time of you know, don't want
to get too deep, but kind of just sort of
finding yourself again.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, there's a lot of good memories.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And then after that as well, sort of touring the album,
we did some amazing gigs with orchestras after that, and
they were some of the sort of more epic gigs
I can remember.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, I felt it like a star.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
You must have played some cool festivals around the world.
Does anyone stand out as like the biggest act that
you've seen sort of backstage or on the same bill
as you, or just around and about on the road.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Oh yeah, I think I remember we played Glastonbury and
we did.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
That's pretty big.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
We did two Yeah, yeah, it was it was crazy,
And we did two gigs here. We opened it on
the Thursday night, so it was like this pre opening
thing in the Spiegel tint and then we headlined the
electronic stage on the Saturday.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
So we were in like.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
A tour bus, you know, a big classic artie bus,
and our bus driver knew all the other tour bus drivers,
so so he parked the bus up like next to
all the big people, and I you know, kind of
look out the window and there's like Chris Martin.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I do remember Chris Martin walking past. So you go,
there's one.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Cold Play doesn't get much bigger than.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
That, probably not Christ Simon, Paul.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Simon, Well get there was he guarf uncle.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
No, no, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
They hate each other, don't they do? They don't like
each other? Is it? Is it interesting for you the
way that d M has changed, And when we're talking
about two thousand and six, was it two thousand and seven,
two thousand and six Solstice? I mean nowadays at festivals
and stuff like that, the oftentimes the biggest acts are
(08:12):
are ed M. But I guess when you guys started,
it was a different world, wasn't it. You guys were
really alternative, I mean considered to be alternative, And now
alternative is the main strand it's all kind of one.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, it is crazy, Yeah, it's yeah, who knows where
it's going. But I mean we sort of think that.
But then I've got teenagers now and they're listening to
like old nineties rock. Yeah, you know it's back. It's
back to that. You know, a twelve year old daughter,
I saw like a cure song on her playlist, the Cure, So.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
From top TikTok, they would have seen something on TikTok.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah they're listening. There's a corn song around on the moment.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I'm having a look here, Nick, And it's good because
you're looking at all those gigs. You're going to be
traveling around quite a lot price of fuel going through
the roof, and I see that Why Tomo your sponsor,
which is quite nice. So that's going to make it
a little bit more affordable. You won't be passing those
costs onto the consumer.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
No, we won't because yeah, why tom are helping us out.
And I think like part of that is probably like
a couple of petrol vouches maybe, so we'll be getting
in the van and pushing the refs high and not
worrying about it.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah, it's quite nice. It's a nice thing to have actually. Well,
lovely to chat Nick, best of luck with everything and
look forward to the tour soon.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, thank you, good to chat to you guys, speak
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
How's everything going with you?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
It's really good, Yeah, really good. Just release the tour
and it's going well. So wan Occer out so already.
So yeah, stoked.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
It's quite a tour because I'm just lock here neck
in the cargo, Dunedin, Juarnica, christ Church, myth and Wellington,
Huanganui and you Plymouth. That's a lot of that's a
lot of dates. But I see you doing a bit
in May, three days in May, and then you're doing
a bit in June, and then you're taking a break
and you're going a bit in July. How come you're
(00:42):
doing it that way?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
It's just you know, I'm going to work too hard,
you know, just you need that holiday break in between,
you know, I did.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
I do notice looking at it written down, there is
a ten day gap between the Wonka and christ Church gigs.
Is it fear to assume that there's a few members
of the band that ski or no board there is
there is?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
No, I think I think we probably you know, it's
best to do things in weekends. Yeah, you know, so
that's that was a sort of goal, And yeah, they
were just the sort of venue availabilities and and things
like that, so that's that's why that happened that way.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
But yeah, you got you guys go pretty hard on stage.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
How do you go three nights on the trot?
Speaker 5 (01:28):
What are you doing between gigs to make sure that
you can get up and do it again the next night?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
You know, ice baths, power aid, recovery drinks, you know, stretches,
things like that.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yeah, education, sauna's hot cold therapy.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
So it's it's to celebrate the twentieth anniversary of Solstice.
Now are you So are you going to play the album?
Is that the way that it works or what are
you going to do?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, we are going to play pretty much all of
the album.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
There's a couple of little interludy things that we won't
we but yeah, we're going to play the rest of
the album. So there's a couple of new songs we're
going to learn that we've never played live, one or
two that we have have not played since back in
the day when we did the album tour two thousand
and seven. So yeah, yeah, so yeah, that's the goal
(02:19):
to play pretty much for the album, and then it
will a few extras as well.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
It's one of those albums that I think that every
car in the two thousands had a copy of in it,
you know what I mean? Like I had a little
Walk What were they said, the discom a discman at
the time with the anti shock technology in it. And
I flew over to my family lives in Australia and
I bought one at the airport and I just hammered
that thing the whole way over there, went through the batteries.
(02:46):
So this is an album that I know a lot
of people know cover to cover. There's something about going
to a gig where you know all of the songs
and you know what one's coming next. Is it as
much fun to play that way as it is to
listen to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well we've never really done it like that before, so
it will be. It will be fun and you know,
just sort of getting to know the songs and those
in that.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Order and what you're expecting to hear next, and yeah,
it will be. It will be a buzz buzz.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
It will be very nostalgic to go back to those days,
the old CD Walkman days I did I had I
Had a Walk woman as well the CD discman, sorry,
Andy Shoppon never really worked.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Man, it was such a gimmick. This is the problem.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
And no, they're really leaning on it to it's Andy
Skip technology and there was something about it would like preload.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
The next ten seconds of the song so that, but
it just never worked.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
It didn't work.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
It didn't work.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I wondered that because obviously everybody else has consumed it
as an album, But how many times did you listen
to the album from start to finish, because it's completely
different when you create the album as to when you
experience the album as a listener.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Consume.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, a lot, like a lot.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Like we recorded it in Kaikota, and the first place
I lived there when we were doing the recording was
in South Bay. So I don't know if you know
quite well, but South Bay is kind of over the hell,
so it's quite a way way away.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
But I didn't have a car or anything.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
We were completely broke, so i'd walk each day from
South Bay over the hell, probably like a forty five
minute walk or an hour walk or so. And I
can't remember if I had it on my iPod, if
we were burning CDs and I was actually listening to
it on my discumen, I would listen to the songs
going over the hell and sort of in order as well,
(04:41):
so you kind of get that sort of album feeling,
and because that was the sort of goal to make
an album, you know, not just like a bunch of songs,
but just actually that sort of album thing. Yeah, every
day over the hell listening to it and then to
getting into the studio and you get heaps of ideas
(05:03):
of what to do and you know what to change,
and yeah, listening to it like thousands of times, so
many times over the hell back over there, and then
probably once it's released never.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
That's the thing you don't you don't, but everyone else
is consuming it in a completely different way. The other
part for you is, I guess as a musician, it's
a moment in time, right and probably your tastes, the
way you feel about things probably moves on and there
it is cemented in time forever. It was coming back
(05:40):
to it, and I guess you guys have got to
practice it and perform what was coming back to it?
Was it nostalgic for you?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
It's kind of like looking at an old photo album,
you know, like just makes heaps of memories flood back,
and you know, it was a pretty cool time. We'd
sort of taken ourselves out of Melbourne. We were all
living in Melbourne, and you know, Melbourne was kind of
one of those sort of go out five nights of
the week type places, and then we just all of
(06:09):
a sudden we were and kayaks all living together in
a little sort of batch and it was just a
real sort of magical time of you know, don't want
to get too deep, but kind of just sort of
finding yourself again.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, there's a lot of good memories.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And then after that as well, sort of touring the album,
we did some amazing gigs with orchestras after that, and
they were some of the sort of more epic gigs
I can remember.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, I felt it like a star.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
You must have played some cool festivals around the world.
Does anyone stand out as like the biggest act that
you've seen sort of backstage or on the same bill
as you, or just around and about on the road.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Oh yeah, I think I remember we played Glastonbury and
we did.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
That's pretty big.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
We did two Yeah, yeah, it was it was crazy,
And we did two gigs here. We opened it on
the Thursday night, so it was like this pre opening
thing in the Spiegel tint and then we headlined the
electronic stage on the Saturday.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
So we were in like.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
A tour bus, you know, a big classic artie bus,
and our bus driver knew all the other tour bus drivers,
so so he parked the bus up like next to
all the big people, and I you know, kind of
look out the window and there's like Chris Martin.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I do remember Chris Martin walking past. So you go,
there's one.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Cold Play doesn't get much bigger than.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
That, probably not Christ Simon, Paul.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Simon, Well get there was he guarf uncle.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
No, no, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
They hate each other, don't they do? They don't like
each other? Is it? Is it interesting for you the
way that d M has changed, And when we're talking
about two thousand and six, was it two thousand and seven,
two thousand and six Solstice? I mean nowadays at festivals
and stuff like that, the oftentimes the biggest acts are
(08:12):
are ed M. But I guess when you guys started,
it was a different world, wasn't it. You guys were
really alternative, I mean considered to be alternative, And now
alternative is the main strand it's all kind of one.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, it is crazy, Yeah, it's yeah, who knows where
it's going. But I mean we sort of think that.
But then I've got teenagers now and they're listening to
like old nineties rock. Yeah, you know it's back. It's
back to that. You know, a twelve year old daughter,
I saw like a cure song on her playlist, the Cure, So.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
From top TikTok, they would have seen something on TikTok.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah they're listening. There's a corn song around on the moment.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I'm having a look here, Nick, And it's good because
you're looking at all those gigs. You're going to be
traveling around quite a lot price of fuel going through
the roof, and I see that Why Tomo your sponsor,
which is quite nice. So that's going to make it
a little bit more affordable. You won't be passing those
costs onto the consumer.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
No, we won't because yeah, why tom are helping us out.
And I think like part of that is probably like
a couple of petrol vouches maybe, so we'll be getting
in the van and pushing the refs high and not
worrying about it.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah, it's quite nice. It's a nice thing to have actually. Well,
lovely to chat Nick, best of luck with everything and
look forward to the tour soon.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, thank you, good to chat to you guys, speak
Jerian Maniah. Catch the radio show from six to ten weekdays,
The Hidarchy Breakfast
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