April 28, 2026 • 28 mins
Today on the pod the guys talk about well known people behaving badly, and ask if there are any other podcasts worth listening to.
Then we talk to comedian Courtney Dawson, whose show Peachy Keen is at Basement Theatre from 12-16 May as part of the NZ International Comedy Festival with Best Foods Mayo.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Daily bespoke content that you won't find on the radio
show The hurd I Keep Breakfast podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Coming up later in the podcast Welcome Along, by the way,
Courtney Dawson, comedian comes on the show.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Yeah for a bit of a mix up last week.
That's right, Yeah, we got our dates wrong.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Well we I'm including her and the Wii in the
royal way.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, we all did.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
We all got our dates wrong. Yeah. Also, like a
lot of times, what happens in these situations is there
is a publicist or some sort of pr person that's
in in between, in betwixt. That's another another layer of complexity.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Of this whole thing.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Now, if things don't work out today, then I'm going
to do I'm going to say it's it's Courtney Dawson's fault.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Okay, Okay, just so.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
We know, Okay, that's gonna be my call, and I
just that's all.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Right, Okay, Okay, Look that's fine. I guess that's fine
with me. I guess the thing is not fine with Red.
He's got a bond to pick well because.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
She was supposed to be on last week, right, And
then I said to you guys, oh, Courtney Dawson has
mixed the dayser.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Yeah you as it?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Actually you?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
No, is there a.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Possibility that I had or that the public but that
the publicer has had And then somebody has just said, oh,
it was Courtney Doson's fault.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Well, the only person I heard say was Courtney Dawson's fault?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Yeah was you? I don't hear the publishers playing for
it anyway.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
So she's just text and said she's ten minutes away,
so she's on the way.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Okay, Well that's great, Yeah, we're on here. Just I've
had a lot of guests on this this week, haven't
we on the on the podcast we Who Have You Stay?
Paul Williams on yesterday, Man, that show looks good. Is
that out now?
Speaker 5 (01:40):
New Zealand Spot tonight tonight eight thirty on TV and
Z two.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Just stuff the game in two halves.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
It's a big, big show for TV and Z two. Yeah,
it's the big big comedy, is it.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
It's a hell of a a cast.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I got in there.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Britt McKenzie Rose metapad and she's doing well over there,
and in the UK, she doesn't she doing well over
She is doing very very well. That's the funny thing.
All of the comedians that we've talked to about the
New Zealand comedy scene, they all say, as soon as
you go overseas, you just start absolutely crushing it, because
it's so hard to get a laugh out of anyone
here in New Zealand. I've been to comedy gigs, and
(02:15):
in fact, I've been to one of Courtney Dawson's comedy gigs,
and maybe I'll bring this up with her. I don't
know if you'll remember this, but you heckled her. No,
but a row of drunk women behind me heckled her,
but they were supportive hickeels. So as she was going
through her bets, she was like, you know, getting to
the punchline, and as she was getting there, the drunk
(02:37):
girls behind me going whew, like in support of her,
like yeah, and like agreeing with everything that she said.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Any good question, would you?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Like?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Do you want that?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
You could see her being like, hey, I've actually I've
actually got a punchline coming here. Can you just shut
the fuck up.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Oh, they were getting up on all of her time.
They were screwing up her timer.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah. And so there was that and then the other
was wholy came out. He was him seeing that gig
and he was like, just so, because we can't hear
a smile. So if you want to laugh, laugh, but
like if you're sitting there just smiling radio, yeah, well
that's exactly it. We can't hear any little rye, a
little rye turn up of the lips. No, we can't
(03:19):
hear anything. Sometimes. I mean, if you ever do a
radio show by yourself, you are sitting in a soundproof
room talking out into their bust and you're like, does
any of this make any sense?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So there'll be laugh talking, people say coming up after
the break, they laugh at their own jokes.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, the laugh talking that is that is a bastion
of the solo show, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
It's a problem.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
But I've noticed it's oftentimes a problem as well with
the radio host come television.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Personality.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
The person who was on radio cuts their teeth on radio,
gets their teeth cut, and then decides to make the
transition transitions to television. And when I say it makes,
the transition just appears on tele vision in any shape
of way, shape or form, because the two.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Are very different.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, the energy it's required for your voice on radio
is more it's massive, and all you need on TV
is a look yeah yeah, sometimes as a pause, and
just the fact that you're on there is often enough,
although sometimes not enough according to some people.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
According to some people, some producers. Yeah, we did talk
about I am going to be on a couple episodes
of Game of Two Halves.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
They sent me.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
They sent me an email saying, oh, look, it's not
acc does Game of two Halves. So we're going to
rotate through all of the people, so every week it's
going to be different people on there. So that was
the last correspondence I had, and then the next one was, Hey,
Laura is coming on to promote Game and two Halves. Yeah,
And actually before that it was and shout out to
you is the thousands of people who tagged me in
every bit of marketing that they did. Thanks for that.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I know how that works.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
It's just it's people who like you. Yeah, and they
It's like when you go out and people give you grief. Yeah,
they're doing that because I think that's because they're like,
I mean, most of the time, it's because they like you.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
You're going to have to assume that it is, because
otherwise it would be pretty brutal. But yes, I think
that too, Like particularly on hodak In on the ACC,
we don't have fans, we have victims and those people
because our sense of humor is key with dudes is
taking the piss out of each other. But the weird
part is when you don't know that person and they're
just taking the piss out of you, and you're like,
I didn't is this guy just slagging me off? What
(05:33):
the fuck?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
But also I think there's a time and a place,
and what people don't realize is sometimes they don't know
what's happened to you and the lead up to that interaction. Yeah,
so you might have just had some really you might
be dealing with something at home, your kids might be
going through a tough time, or yeah, if you know
they've done something wrong, or you just I don't know, yeah,
a personal situation, and then all of a sudden you're
(05:55):
faced with that and it's like it's can be hard
sometimes to lift and overcome. People.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Sometimes they love to hear about a story. You know,
you go on like a social media threat or something,
and it'll be something along the lines of have you
met a famous person with that deck? Even me people
ask me all the time, like, oh, who's a deck
and radio tip?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
You know who?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Do you know that's a real deck? I don't know
what it is, but in our minds we've got this
want for someone to find out that someone's not actually
as nice as that are presenting in front of everyone else.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Oh yeah, But often.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
When you hear the stories of I met so and
so and here was a deck. If you listened to
the story, it's the most insane interaction that you've ever
fucking heard of, Like you just walked up and chirped
some random celebrity because you know who they are and
they were a bit dismissive of you, and they're likes it.
Dick you from your one interaction or is that one
(06:46):
of the most unhinged, Like would you have gone up
and done that to any other person? Or there's very few.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
People that I would say that about it.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And I've had so many interactions with well known people
over the years just doing this job. Yeah that you
meet a lot of people, you interview them all that stuff.
As Barker is the only person that comes to mind, right, yeah,
And maybe we just got him on a bad day,
Although there's other people that have said the same thing.
But I feel like he's the guy if you don't know,
he's the guy that plays the greengrocer guide on the
(07:16):
Flight of the Concords.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, yeah, with the head band, yes, Canadian comedian.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, so he doesn't there's a list of things you're
not allowed to talk to him about.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Which is always a red rag. A red flag. Is
that what you say? It's a flag?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, I think he you're not allowed to talk about
Flight of the Concords.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I always wonder that when bands do that. Remember read
the rule. Who are those guys?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Man from Man?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Man from Men? So they split into two Manfred Man
is one thing and then the other one's the Manfred
Man band or something like that. They came in here
and we don't talk about that song blinded by the Light,
Blinded by the Light. And what's the first thing, Jason
hoyd Arson, it's about that.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Song I know, not written by the Man for Man
guys on that part.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Of And they were fine with it, and they had
a big gown about it, and I was like, I
think that's just the publicist that's put that and they
were actually sweet with it, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, recently, who was it that I interviewed and they
said definitely don't go there. I feel like it was
like Tim Fann or something, you can't talk about neo yeah, yeah,
yeah really, and that's what FO. I can't imagine Tim
fin would even say, hey, by the way, I don't
want to answer the questions about my brother.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I just don't see that happening. I think it's oftentimes publicists, yeah,
that are trying to steer you down the direction of
publicizing the thing that they are there to talk about, yeah,
which instead of the thing that people want to know about.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
But then there's the other thing where you can sometimes
end up in a situation where because there's all the
same radio stations here in the building, they'll bring people
through it and they've been up at zid B, they
go to the hits, they got a ZIM and then
they come here and the person themselves, like the artists
or the band or whatever, they don't know where they
are or what. They've just come there because they were
told to. And then we've also been told we've got
(09:04):
to interview this person. And so now you've got this
ridiculous situation, which I've had a couple with a couple
of bands. We're sitting in there. They don't want to
be there. You kind of don't want to be there either. Yeah,
it's a year old. Just like, so what's the process?
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Man?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
You got to like just talking to people about stuff
in this industry. Otherwise you'd be moving around places and
you're always talking people about things. And if you don't
don't enjoy the chant, yeah, then you're not going to
enjoy your job, really.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
No? No, don't enjoy talking. No, ready is not the
one for you. The suck quickly fellows. I'm in the
market for a new podcast. Anyone got any podcast recommendations
for me because I've I just the like basketball sort
of starting to wind down a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
You're over the basket.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I'm over the basketball. I listen to a lot of
basketball podcasts.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
My favorite podcast, The.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Resta's History, is not really interesting me at the moment.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Okay, I actually have taken a break from it because
it puts a whole lot out each week and I'm
now on I'm on the order ball at the moment.
So I'm listening to a talking book about a guy
who was eighteen who was living in London. This is
a real story. And he pretended to be the son
of a Russian oligarch. He was a fantasist. He's just
(10:14):
a young dude who's a fantasist and then he dies
and trying to work Wow, that's kind of happens at
the beginning, and then it's working out why back, why
he died?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Who done it?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, it's really interesting. A whole lot of criminal, a
big criminal underworld that exists inside of London, and the
potentially trying to get a whole lot of money out
of him because he was a fantasist and he was
lying and saying that he was the son of an oligarch,
and he he essentially kind of dug his own grave.
Is this a true story?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah, true story.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I just watched one Catch Me if you Can, which
is a very similar story. Oh yeah, Leo DiCaprio, you
know when he's pretending to be a doctor and a
lawyer that and pilot.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, something about fantasists. So I find the story is
very very interesting. I've known myself a couple of people
who make up stories to make themselves seem a little
bit better than what they are.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
It's amazing how much you can get away with it.
I think, particularly in New Zealand, because we don't like
calling that shit out. Someone will say something fucking unhearness you.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yes, people that know, people who are just fantasists, who
just I find it difficult because what do I can't
be friends with those people because I know that they
know that, they like that, they know that I know
that they're not telling the truth, but they can't help it.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
No, Really, what do you listen to them?
Speaker 5 (11:37):
I listened to apart from this wonderful podcast when we
listen back to Ourselves a couple of times always and
to Myself and Mad Monday and Love It.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Are listening to the rerun of the Peter Plumney Walker
specials The Mercy Mistress from a couple of years ago.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Once was Enough, Man to be honest, Once was Enough?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
The Diary of a CEO.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Yeah, I listened to a lot of that because I
find a lot of the topics really interesting, Like people
that used to be in the CIA, like people that
talk to dead people, like people that recommend peptides. Is
a way out of the future in terms of medication, You.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Guys into the peptides?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Ah nah. But I did speak to someone over the weekend.
Who's all over the peptides. Boy, the people who like
peptides will tell you all about the peptides the new crypto.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yeah, wides they are and it's all your crypto mates
that are into it.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I don't know much about them, but I would say generally,
things that are a miracle cure don't aren't a miracle cure.
There's very little in the universe that is just a
simple solution to make you live longer. You think that
something's got to give, maybe your organs are working harder,
or you know, is that the vibe that we're going
(12:50):
with peptides, Yeah, a little bit of that.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Because I message me and goes the big brown slim
down still in the works, and I was like, this
is the beauty of the big brown slim down as
I can just pull that out whenever we short of content.
I said, it's back on for sure, and he goes,
allow me to introduce you to the world of Chinese
research peptides, And I said, will my dick fall off?
And he said, no, it'll look big. I'll send you
(13:12):
a vial of retartitude. H.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
I don't know if you should take.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Taking things that I tried to.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Jason points, so shall we call today's podcast Courtney Dawson
or retarda?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I think retarded to featuring Courtney Dawson.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Will should be okay with that.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
This is the problem. She's up next.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
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Speaker 2 (13:51):
Courtney Dawson joins us on the podcast today.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Good day, Courtney, how are you good?
Speaker 7 (13:56):
Thank you very much, thanks for having.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Me welcome along.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
You were making mention of the fact that we have
thirteen bottles of aged wine on the desk in front
of you.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Yes, and I've been caught up on the story of them.
They were your dad, and the wine sad like okaya
under the stairs. That's right, gorgeous and you've got into
and was this these empty bottles? Was that happening in
the morning, That's right, that's happening.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
In the mornings.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, we're just trying to find out what wine goes
best at six o five am.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Yeah, yeah, and are you and then and is it
a little of coffee or at the same time as
the coffee.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Well, funnily enough, I was drinking one of the reds
last week and then I took a sip in my
coffee and it curdled the milk in your mouth, no,
in the cut. So when I put the cup back down,
all of the milk congealed and curdled. And that's what
I've learned is that wine doesn't necessarily age Like wine,
you know, you think that it's going to get better
at the older it kids, that's not at all true.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
And like not all things get mixed with coffee. Well,
but I mean it is sort of the breakfast of wines, right,
like it's full body, it's.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
A meal red yeah, right, yeah, one hundred percent. The
yellows have been a bit to it. We actually haven't
gotten into the yellows yet, have we? What the earth
the whites? Sorry, well, this is.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
The other things hang on.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
You just dearly showed.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I mean, there's people who know nothing about wine, and
then there's I don't know, people who know nothing about.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
Really starting from the ground up, I grew.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Very I grew up very far away from wine cellars.
I don't know anything about them. If that's read, how's
the other one not yellow or green.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
As a wine condis you almost have. I would say
yellow wines are the party wines.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Okay, yeah, so.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
I think you've done well to start with the reds.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Well, people have got a weird thing about alcohol in
the mornings, and particularly red wine. But I would say,
I would say, don't knock it until you try it.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Yeah, I mean, no one knocks it when you're on
holiday and like you've created a beautiful relax environment. You're
basically on holiday. Pop the bottles.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
What we found out was that it's a slippery slope.
This is why your favorite broadcaster has lost their careers
to ramp it down alcoholism is because it does make
the show better. It does. It relaxes you, You're funnier.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
Look, they were just being scientists, It's all exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
They were down there, the canary down the coal mine,
and we heard the canary in with it. Let's get
you get out.
Speaker 7 (16:12):
Yeah, it is following a beautiful legacy. I love it.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I know the person whose job it was to pull
that wine. For one radio host who used to operate
on the brieff A show on the very popular station for.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Some time, and they had a wine pourer.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Oh yeah, it was their job too. And a mug
and a coffee make always in a coffee mug, never
in a wine glass.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, so the higher ups can't tell you hear about
all these things about missing the prime of radio. You know,
back when they used to smoke in the studio, drink
wine and they had a poorer.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Yeah, there was a well, there was a poorer.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
There was a person whose job was to make sure
that the that there was a wine each day, because
there would be at least a bottle consumed per show.
I mean, it's this is the problem with bloody breakfast radio.
Though I'm not sure Courtney, with you, how much have
you ever been involved in and broadcasting breakfast radio.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Have you done a breakfast radio show.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
I've done a breakfast radio show or two, and I
would be definitely sinking some wines.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
I don't know how you do it.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
And you're putting it in the mug. That's a good
that's a good shout like I had. I had a
friend who her granddad who lived with it was an
alcoholic and he would always put his wine in a cup.
But it was quite nice because you know when alcoholics
get older and you know, they're old, old, they're just
it's just sort of nice and yeah, they're just doing
their things. And it would will always have either wine
or his teeth in there. It's any mistake you want
(17:39):
to make.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I don't want to put the teeth in the wine
like overnight. No, I have some shocking stained teeth.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Especially.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Yeah, red wine as opposed to yellow.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Poly dent is the is the is the product, don't
poly dent. That's not the one that my grandpa Bell,
my grandfather, he used to chuck his teeth in the
polydint overnight.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
You guys come across them.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I've never come across the polydyin.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
I've heard a polygy, I know all about it.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
But you don't see a lot of false teeth anymore. Actually,
it's not it's not something that happens.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Well, no, because you can get the you can go
to Turkey and get the whole the whole ship done,
you know.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
Yeah, but then you know underneath those venairs, they've got
those spiky little devil teeth.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
They got the shark.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
I would never want to look like that, even for
a moment.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
And I've got a couple of I've got one spiky
devil tooth underneath our bloody crown or whatever the fuck
it's called.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Nothing like it, putting it down. But then you see,
like if you watch Love Island or any of those
shows and the English dudes and they've got the fluorescent
white teeth, like they don't look anything like actual teeth
at all. At that point, why you just put anything
in there?
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I think there's a saying, isn't it You shouldn't Your
teeth should never be whiter than your eyeballs there, right,
that's what they say, pushing my eyeballs are kind of
bloodshot and sort of jaundice, jaundice a little bit.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I was looking for call me the comedy Garlas came up.
I was just saying, saying, of these guys before we
came in, I've actually been to one of your shows,
or a show that you were on. It was out
in a a big sort of stadium thing out South Ork,
you know, next to where they got the Whitewater rafting. Yes, yes,
there's a stadium out there. This was a while ago,
(19:21):
and I was telling them that you had there were
the strangest hicclers of this show. And I don't know
if you'll remember this, but there was a row of
wasted girls sitting behind me and as you were. And
actually all the comedians on that night were telling their jokes.
They were hickling in support.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Yes, I do remember this gig. It was it was
called the Mixtape and it was like a big gala
of all like Pacific Islander and Maldi, yes comedians.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
And I think Hurley was hosting.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
Maybe this one we might be thinking of a different way.
This one was one was packed. But if it was
the same one, tell them about if you're in South Auckland.
The thing about brown people is when they hickel, they
hickel when they're having fun. Yes, you know, so it's
always like supportive hicckling. It's never like you saw or whatever.
It's like, yeah I know that street, Yeah, yeah you're
you'res and it's like.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
Thank you guys, like shish now.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
But also yeah, I love it. I love it's the
best energy. It was so funny to watch because they
were so supportive. Everything you say, whoa, hey, I'm working
towards a punchline here, Can you guys just give.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Us a bit of breathing that's gonna throw your timing
isn't it.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Yeah, it does, And I feel like it was the
same show. My dad was on the same show and
he did a joke about the warriors and the boys
did not like that, and someone just threw their glasses
at every not.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Wine glasses, like sunglasses. My Dad's like, cheer, thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Really, I think it's I think it's a Kiwi audience
thing where I think comedians do such a good job
of seeming like you're coming up with the stuff off
the cuff that ki audience is like, it's the same
thing where they go, oh, I can just chip in
because I'm thinking of stuff to say as well. They
don't realize that the person has written it down. And
then the other one is like, oh, they're not that funny.
I could get up there and do it too.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Yeah, and I would like to see you try. I
almost said it last night. I was I did a show,
like an improv show, and it was like all the
comedians are like sitting on the stage and we all
do have microphones, and someone's that you have to do
like a certain amount of minutes of improv stand up,
and I had a microphone and I almost started talking
back to them when they were talking. I was like,
oh my god, shut up.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
Yeah, it's not your time yet.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Well, that's a great thing about radios. When people talk
back to the radio, we can't hear it.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Machines now we get feedback straight away.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
But it's good and bad. Yeah, you know, it's good
and bad.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
It's an interesting thing that New Zealand comedy on the
global stage currently thing, because if you've done much stuff overseas,
it seems like, as men and I said, New Zealand
audience is a notoriously difficult.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Yeah, yeah they are.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
I've done like a little bit in like Melbourne and
stuff like I I've done the shows in Melbourne.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
They like laugh and they're just like having a great time.
I'm like, wow, this is a piece so puss can
you have to work for it in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So it's good training probably.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
I've heard lots of international comedians come over and be like,
this is like a really good testing ground for new
jokes because if it's not funny, you will not laugh.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah. No, that's totally a New Zealand thing. I think
it's because New Zealand people are actually inherently my theory
there is possibly wrong, but inherently funny. Yes, I think
New Zealanders have a generally a good sense of humor.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
And as a result, there's a high bar.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
Yes, yeah, you got it. Like a lot of I
would say, like American style comedians. A lot of it
is like yarns or like long format stories and stuff.
But we're like, give us the jokes.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Yeah, there's a punchline.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, come on, let's move, Let's keep moving.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
The flip side of that is also like New Zealanders
are a little bit shy, like I have noticed there's
a single bit of light on them. Like I've seen
people like look to see if their friends are laughing
before they.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
No one's laughing at the start, and everyone feels awkward,
so they're like, oh, I don't want to be the
only one who's in there laughing because no one else
is making it. And then when one person starts, then
everyone starts.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
Yeah, so that's why you've got God bless that God
MC's man and really get those crowds warmed up.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, Well what about if you're like me, I'm not
really a laugh out louder. When I watch stuff, I
enjoy it and I find it really funny. I find
it funny, but that doesn't mean necessarily mean like I
don't sit at home and laugh at television shows for example, right,
But I could be finding something incredibly funny, but I
will not physically laugh.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Okay, well I won't give you a personal invitation to
my show though. Okay, you're welcome to.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Well there's the things I do with people when face
to face, I will, but it's just when I'm watching,
I feel removed from the Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
I think it was the thing like there's been shows
that I've done and like it's been like you know this,
you know, can get whatever it's like. And then people
cut and you think, oh my god, those people hated me.
And then they come up to you after the show
and they'll be like, man, I just said such an
awesome time, that was so funny. But they're just sitting
there smiling at you the whole time, and it's like, yeah,
you do have to sort of open your mouth and
makenois otherwise I think I'm bombing.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
You can't hear a smile. Yeah, I'm the same. I
like watch the TV show and the Missus abilash, I
turned this off. It don't seem like you're into it.
I'm like, this is the funniest thing. I've been the
same in my life. I am dying on the inside
but then outwardly. Yeah, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
So what's happening for your show's Courtney? Where are they?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
How can people get tickets and stuff?
Speaker 6 (24:23):
My show is from the twelfth to the sixteenth of May.
I really have to commit this to memory. I'm so
bad with dates.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I'll look them up for you.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
It's a basement theater and you can get tickets on
the internet by googling my name, or you can go
to the Inset Comedy Festival website and they will be there.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
So that's not next week. It was the week after,
from the Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
A couple of weeks away.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
And are you on the comedy Gala show as well?
Speaker 7 (24:48):
Oh my god, I am. Yes, it's my first gala.
It's very exciting.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
What has everybody told you about performing in the comedy
Gala that it's great fun?
Speaker 6 (24:57):
That you are waiting around for about eleven twelve hours
to do four minutes of gear. Yeah, but that's four
minutes of jokes. Sorry, I always forget comedians saying gear
is it is a different from the four minutes of jokes,
but that it's a great time and it's always a
big party.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
So yeah, it's a cool show. I've been to a
couple of times. There's one they filmed for TV, right, Yeah,
it's as an audience member, it's like an onslaught a
because every different comedian there's like this. Heaps is like
ten people on their thing and everyone's bringing their their
best gear. We call it geared and in the company
(25:35):
world we've called gear and but it's just an onslough
at the moment, from the moment you sit down, it's
just bang, bang bang, the best comedians coming at you.
It's a good time.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
And then they make you sit down and do lots
of practice.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Collapse fucking sucks.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, and then they go, now we haven't quite got
this bit right, so we're going to have to redo
yeah this, but.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, Tony Lyle, I think was doing that for us
when we had When I went one time and he's
just like, OK, now you brung a live real hard
and then claporal hard and you're.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Like, yeah, that is brutal.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
I've been in the audience of the Garlic and also
the Green Room a couple of years, I've just had
had a few wines in town and then be like, hey,
let me into the green room, leave me drink some
of your wines. So, yes, yeah, that is brutal, but
I'm very excited. Did I say he took a year
off comedy, Yes I did. I took a year off
last year to do my Level three and four Teddy
or classes at till one.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
I know, was it how did you go coming back
to it? Was like riding a bike or was it
like starting again when.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
You take a long break from commedators sort of like
you get on stage. And so I've never ridden a joke.
I've never said a funny thing in my life. Like
it does feel like you're not you haven't done it
for a long time. So even if it's just like
four a week, sometimes I feel like that. But this
the experience I've had this time coming back to it,
is that I care way less, Like I'm way less
hard on myself if things don't go well. I find
(26:55):
it easier to write because, like I don't know, sometimes
when I'm writing a joke, I'm like, this is the
worst thing that if anyone's ever heard it, I just
sort of spin out about it for about forty minutes.
But now I'm just like, yeah, I'm just much more relaxed.
I'm really glad that I took the air off.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
You. Are you a sit down, write an entire show
type of writer or are you a live your life,
carry around a notebook, writing down ri asides that's happening
to you and thenulating it.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Oh my, I really find it difficult to sit in
front of a computer. Like when I sit down to
write something, I have a genuine fight orf light response,
like I have to like shackle myself to a computer.
But I would say, like usually what I'll do is,
if something crack up happens off, I have an idea,
I'll write sort of like a half hearted note on
my phone, and then when I need to use it,
I'll rifle through my phone. I just saw a night
(27:43):
the other day that just said black banana. That means
nothing to me.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
But if we do that on this show, you come
in the morning that what the fuck did that mean?
That makes no sense to me.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
But usually, because I'm like I've been described by my
friends as a pig, there are lots of gigs is
that I'll have like you know, like a few ten,
fifteen twenty minute bits, work on them throughout the year
and then find out how to how they.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
All melt together. Far for the hour show Okay Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Corney Dawson, Peachey Keane playing at Basement Theater on the
twelfth sixteenth of May as part of the New Zealand
International Comedy Festival, with best foods made.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
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Speaker 1 (28:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Coming up later in the podcast Welcome Along, by the way,
Courtney Dawson, comedian comes on the show.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Yeah for a bit of a mix up last week.
That's right, Yeah, we got our dates wrong.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Well we I'm including her and the Wii in the
royal way.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, we all did.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
We all got our dates wrong. Yeah. Also, like a
lot of times, what happens in these situations is there
is a publicist or some sort of pr person that's
in in between, in betwixt. That's another another layer of complexity.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Of this whole thing.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Now, if things don't work out today, then I'm going
to do I'm going to say it's it's Courtney Dawson's fault.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Okay, Okay, just so.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
We know, Okay, that's gonna be my call, and I
just that's all.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Right, Okay, Okay, Look that's fine. I guess that's fine
with me. I guess the thing is not fine with Red.
He's got a bond to pick well because.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
She was supposed to be on last week, right, And
then I said to you guys, oh, Courtney Dawson has
mixed the dayser.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Yeah you as it?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Actually you?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
No, is there a.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Possibility that I had or that the public but that
the publicer has had And then somebody has just said, oh,
it was Courtney Doson's fault.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Well, the only person I heard say was Courtney Dawson's fault?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Yeah was you? I don't hear the publishers playing for
it anyway.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
So she's just text and said she's ten minutes away,
so she's on the way.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Okay, Well that's great, Yeah, we're on here. Just I've
had a lot of guests on this this week, haven't
we on the on the podcast we Who Have You Stay?
Paul Williams on yesterday, Man, that show looks good. Is
that out now?
Speaker 5 (01:40):
New Zealand Spot tonight tonight eight thirty on TV and
Z two.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Just stuff the game in two halves.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
It's a big, big show for TV and Z two. Yeah,
it's the big big comedy, is it.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
It's a hell of a a cast.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I got in there.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Britt McKenzie Rose metapad and she's doing well over there,
and in the UK, she doesn't she doing well over
She is doing very very well. That's the funny thing.
All of the comedians that we've talked to about the
New Zealand comedy scene, they all say, as soon as
you go overseas, you just start absolutely crushing it, because
it's so hard to get a laugh out of anyone
here in New Zealand. I've been to comedy gigs, and
(02:15):
in fact, I've been to one of Courtney Dawson's comedy gigs,
and maybe I'll bring this up with her. I don't
know if you'll remember this, but you heckled her. No,
but a row of drunk women behind me heckled her,
but they were supportive hickeels. So as she was going
through her bets, she was like, you know, getting to
the punchline, and as she was getting there, the drunk
(02:37):
girls behind me going whew, like in support of her,
like yeah, and like agreeing with everything that she said.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Any good question, would you?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Like?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Do you want that?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
You could see her being like, hey, I've actually I've
actually got a punchline coming here. Can you just shut
the fuck up.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Oh, they were getting up on all of her time.
They were screwing up her timer.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah. And so there was that and then the other
was wholy came out. He was him seeing that gig
and he was like, just so, because we can't hear
a smile. So if you want to laugh, laugh, but
like if you're sitting there just smiling radio, yeah, well
that's exactly it. We can't hear any little rye, a
little rye turn up of the lips. No, we can't
(03:19):
hear anything. Sometimes. I mean, if you ever do a
radio show by yourself, you are sitting in a soundproof
room talking out into their bust and you're like, does
any of this make any sense?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So there'll be laugh talking, people say coming up after
the break, they laugh at their own jokes.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, the laugh talking that is that is a bastion
of the solo show, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
It's a problem.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
But I've noticed it's oftentimes a problem as well with
the radio host come television.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Personality.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
The person who was on radio cuts their teeth on radio,
gets their teeth cut, and then decides to make the
transition transitions to television. And when I say it makes,
the transition just appears on tele vision in any shape
of way, shape or form, because the two.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Are very different.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, the energy it's required for your voice on radio
is more it's massive, and all you need on TV
is a look yeah yeah, sometimes as a pause, and
just the fact that you're on there is often enough,
although sometimes not enough according to some people.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
According to some people, some producers. Yeah, we did talk
about I am going to be on a couple episodes
of Game of Two Halves.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
They sent me.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
They sent me an email saying, oh, look, it's not
acc does Game of two Halves. So we're going to
rotate through all of the people, so every week it's
going to be different people on there. So that was
the last correspondence I had, and then the next one was, Hey,
Laura is coming on to promote Game and two Halves. Yeah,
And actually before that it was and shout out to
you is the thousands of people who tagged me in
every bit of marketing that they did. Thanks for that.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I know how that works.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
It's just it's people who like you. Yeah, and they
It's like when you go out and people give you grief. Yeah,
they're doing that because I think that's because they're like,
I mean, most of the time, it's because they like you.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
You're going to have to assume that it is, because
otherwise it would be pretty brutal. But yes, I think
that too, Like particularly on hodak In on the ACC,
we don't have fans, we have victims and those people
because our sense of humor is key with dudes is
taking the piss out of each other. But the weird
part is when you don't know that person and they're
just taking the piss out of you, and you're like,
I didn't is this guy just slagging me off? What
(05:33):
the fuck?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
But also I think there's a time and a place,
and what people don't realize is sometimes they don't know
what's happened to you and the lead up to that interaction. Yeah,
so you might have just had some really you might
be dealing with something at home, your kids might be
going through a tough time, or yeah, if you know
they've done something wrong, or you just I don't know, yeah,
a personal situation, and then all of a sudden you're
(05:55):
faced with that and it's like it's can be hard
sometimes to lift and overcome. People.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Sometimes they love to hear about a story. You know,
you go on like a social media threat or something,
and it'll be something along the lines of have you
met a famous person with that deck? Even me people
ask me all the time, like, oh, who's a deck
and radio tip?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
You know who?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Do you know that's a real deck? I don't know
what it is, but in our minds we've got this
want for someone to find out that someone's not actually
as nice as that are presenting in front of everyone else.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Oh yeah, But often.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
When you hear the stories of I met so and
so and here was a deck. If you listened to
the story, it's the most insane interaction that you've ever
fucking heard of, Like you just walked up and chirped
some random celebrity because you know who they are and
they were a bit dismissive of you, and they're likes it.
Dick you from your one interaction or is that one
(06:46):
of the most unhinged, Like would you have gone up
and done that to any other person? Or there's very few.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
People that I would say that about it.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And I've had so many interactions with well known people
over the years just doing this job. Yeah that you
meet a lot of people, you interview them all that stuff.
As Barker is the only person that comes to mind, right, yeah,
And maybe we just got him on a bad day,
Although there's other people that have said the same thing.
But I feel like he's the guy if you don't know,
he's the guy that plays the greengrocer guide on the
(07:16):
Flight of the Concords.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, yeah, with the head band, yes, Canadian comedian.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, so he doesn't there's a list of things you're
not allowed to talk to him about.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Which is always a red rag. A red flag. Is
that what you say? It's a flag?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, I think he you're not allowed to talk about
Flight of the Concords.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I always wonder that when bands do that. Remember read
the rule. Who are those guys?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Man from Man?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Man from Men? So they split into two Manfred Man
is one thing and then the other one's the Manfred
Man band or something like that. They came in here
and we don't talk about that song blinded by the Light,
Blinded by the Light. And what's the first thing, Jason
hoyd Arson, it's about that.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Song I know, not written by the Man for Man
guys on that part.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Of And they were fine with it, and they had
a big gown about it, and I was like, I
think that's just the publicist that's put that and they
were actually sweet with it, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, recently, who was it that I interviewed and they
said definitely don't go there. I feel like it was
like Tim Fann or something, you can't talk about neo yeah, yeah,
yeah really, and that's what FO. I can't imagine Tim
fin would even say, hey, by the way, I don't
want to answer the questions about my brother.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I just don't see that happening. I think it's oftentimes publicists, yeah,
that are trying to steer you down the direction of
publicizing the thing that they are there to talk about, yeah,
which instead of the thing that people want to know about.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
But then there's the other thing where you can sometimes
end up in a situation where because there's all the
same radio stations here in the building, they'll bring people
through it and they've been up at zid B, they
go to the hits, they got a ZIM and then
they come here and the person themselves, like the artists
or the band or whatever, they don't know where they
are or what. They've just come there because they were
told to. And then we've also been told we've got
(09:04):
to interview this person. And so now you've got this
ridiculous situation, which I've had a couple with a couple
of bands. We're sitting in there. They don't want to
be there. You kind of don't want to be there either. Yeah,
it's a year old. Just like, so what's the process?
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Man?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
You got to like just talking to people about stuff
in this industry. Otherwise you'd be moving around places and
you're always talking people about things. And if you don't
don't enjoy the chant, yeah, then you're not going to
enjoy your job, really.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
No? No, don't enjoy talking. No, ready is not the
one for you. The suck quickly fellows. I'm in the
market for a new podcast. Anyone got any podcast recommendations
for me because I've I just the like basketball sort
of starting to wind down a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
You're over the basket.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I'm over the basketball. I listen to a lot of
basketball podcasts.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
My favorite podcast, The.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Resta's History, is not really interesting me at the moment.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Okay, I actually have taken a break from it because
it puts a whole lot out each week and I'm
now on I'm on the order ball at the moment.
So I'm listening to a talking book about a guy
who was eighteen who was living in London. This is
a real story. And he pretended to be the son
of a Russian oligarch. He was a fantasist. He's just
(10:14):
a young dude who's a fantasist and then he dies
and trying to work Wow, that's kind of happens at
the beginning, and then it's working out why back, why
he died?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Who done it?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, it's really interesting. A whole lot of criminal, a
big criminal underworld that exists inside of London, and the
potentially trying to get a whole lot of money out
of him because he was a fantasist and he was
lying and saying that he was the son of an oligarch,
and he he essentially kind of dug his own grave.
Is this a true story?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah, true story.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I just watched one Catch Me if you Can, which
is a very similar story. Oh yeah, Leo DiCaprio, you
know when he's pretending to be a doctor and a
lawyer that and pilot.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, something about fantasists. So I find the story is
very very interesting. I've known myself a couple of people
who make up stories to make themselves seem a little
bit better than what they are.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
It's amazing how much you can get away with it.
I think, particularly in New Zealand, because we don't like
calling that shit out. Someone will say something fucking unhearness you.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yes, people that know, people who are just fantasists, who
just I find it difficult because what do I can't
be friends with those people because I know that they
know that, they like that, they know that I know
that they're not telling the truth, but they can't help it.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
No, Really, what do you listen to them?
Speaker 5 (11:37):
I listened to apart from this wonderful podcast when we
listen back to Ourselves a couple of times always and
to Myself and Mad Monday and Love It.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Are listening to the rerun of the Peter Plumney Walker
specials The Mercy Mistress from a couple of years ago.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Once was Enough, Man to be honest, Once was Enough?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
The Diary of a CEO.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Yeah, I listened to a lot of that because I
find a lot of the topics really interesting, Like people
that used to be in the CIA, like people that
talk to dead people, like people that recommend peptides. Is
a way out of the future in terms of medication, You.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Guys into the peptides?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Ah nah. But I did speak to someone over the weekend.
Who's all over the peptides. Boy, the people who like
peptides will tell you all about the peptides the new crypto.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yeah, wides they are and it's all your crypto mates
that are into it.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I don't know much about them, but I would say generally,
things that are a miracle cure don't aren't a miracle cure.
There's very little in the universe that is just a
simple solution to make you live longer. You think that
something's got to give, maybe your organs are working harder,
or you know, is that the vibe that we're going
(12:50):
with peptides, Yeah, a little bit of that.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Because I message me and goes the big brown slim
down still in the works, and I was like, this
is the beauty of the big brown slim down as
I can just pull that out whenever we short of content.
I said, it's back on for sure, and he goes,
allow me to introduce you to the world of Chinese
research peptides, And I said, will my dick fall off?
And he said, no, it'll look big. I'll send you
(13:12):
a vial of retartitude. H.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
I don't know if you should take.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Taking things that I tried to.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Jason points, so shall we call today's podcast Courtney Dawson
or retarda?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I think retarded to featuring Courtney Dawson.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Will should be okay with that.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
This is the problem. She's up next.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Jerry and Manaia joined the conflict the HRDAKI Breakfast discussion
group on Facebook. For more Jeremy Wells and Manaia Stewart
find them on Instagram at Hodaki Breakfast.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Courtney Dawson joins us on the podcast today.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Good day, Courtney, how are you good?
Speaker 7 (13:56):
Thank you very much, thanks for having.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Me welcome along.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
You were making mention of the fact that we have
thirteen bottles of aged wine on the desk in front
of you.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Yes, and I've been caught up on the story of them.
They were your dad, and the wine sad like okaya
under the stairs. That's right, gorgeous and you've got into
and was this these empty bottles? Was that happening in
the morning, That's right, that's happening.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
In the mornings.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, we're just trying to find out what wine goes
best at six o five am.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Yeah, yeah, and are you and then and is it
a little of coffee or at the same time as
the coffee.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Well, funnily enough, I was drinking one of the reds
last week and then I took a sip in my
coffee and it curdled the milk in your mouth, no,
in the cut. So when I put the cup back down,
all of the milk congealed and curdled. And that's what
I've learned is that wine doesn't necessarily age Like wine,
you know, you think that it's going to get better
at the older it kids, that's not at all true.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
And like not all things get mixed with coffee. Well,
but I mean it is sort of the breakfast of wines, right,
like it's full body, it's.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
A meal red yeah, right, yeah, one hundred percent. The
yellows have been a bit to it. We actually haven't
gotten into the yellows yet, have we? What the earth
the whites? Sorry, well, this is.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
The other things hang on.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
You just dearly showed.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I mean, there's people who know nothing about wine, and
then there's I don't know, people who know nothing about.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
Really starting from the ground up, I grew.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Very I grew up very far away from wine cellars.
I don't know anything about them. If that's read, how's
the other one not yellow or green.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
As a wine condis you almost have. I would say
yellow wines are the party wines.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Okay, yeah, so.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
I think you've done well to start with the reds.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Well, people have got a weird thing about alcohol in
the mornings, and particularly red wine. But I would say,
I would say, don't knock it until you try it.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Yeah, I mean, no one knocks it when you're on
holiday and like you've created a beautiful relax environment. You're
basically on holiday. Pop the bottles.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
What we found out was that it's a slippery slope.
This is why your favorite broadcaster has lost their careers
to ramp it down alcoholism is because it does make
the show better. It does. It relaxes you, You're funnier.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
Look, they were just being scientists, It's all exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
They were down there, the canary down the coal mine,
and we heard the canary in with it. Let's get
you get out.
Speaker 7 (16:12):
Yeah, it is following a beautiful legacy. I love it.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I know the person whose job it was to pull
that wine. For one radio host who used to operate
on the brieff A show on the very popular station for.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Some time, and they had a wine pourer.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Oh yeah, it was their job too. And a mug
and a coffee make always in a coffee mug, never
in a wine glass.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, so the higher ups can't tell you hear about
all these things about missing the prime of radio. You know,
back when they used to smoke in the studio, drink
wine and they had a poorer.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Yeah, there was a well, there was a poorer.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
There was a person whose job was to make sure
that the that there was a wine each day, because
there would be at least a bottle consumed per show.
I mean, it's this is the problem with bloody breakfast radio.
Though I'm not sure Courtney, with you, how much have
you ever been involved in and broadcasting breakfast radio.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Have you done a breakfast radio show.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
I've done a breakfast radio show or two, and I
would be definitely sinking some wines.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
I don't know how you do it.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
And you're putting it in the mug. That's a good
that's a good shout like I had. I had a
friend who her granddad who lived with it was an
alcoholic and he would always put his wine in a cup.
But it was quite nice because you know when alcoholics
get older and you know, they're old, old, they're just
it's just sort of nice and yeah, they're just doing
their things. And it would will always have either wine
or his teeth in there. It's any mistake you want
(17:39):
to make.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I don't want to put the teeth in the wine
like overnight. No, I have some shocking stained teeth.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Especially.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Yeah, red wine as opposed to yellow.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Poly dent is the is the is the product, don't
poly dent. That's not the one that my grandpa Bell,
my grandfather, he used to chuck his teeth in the
polydint overnight.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
You guys come across them.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I've never come across the polydyin.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
I've heard a polygy, I know all about it.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
But you don't see a lot of false teeth anymore. Actually,
it's not it's not something that happens.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Well, no, because you can get the you can go
to Turkey and get the whole the whole ship done,
you know.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
Yeah, but then you know underneath those venairs, they've got
those spiky little devil teeth.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
They got the shark.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
I would never want to look like that, even for
a moment.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
And I've got a couple of I've got one spiky
devil tooth underneath our bloody crown or whatever the fuck
it's called.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Nothing like it, putting it down. But then you see,
like if you watch Love Island or any of those
shows and the English dudes and they've got the fluorescent
white teeth, like they don't look anything like actual teeth
at all. At that point, why you just put anything
in there?
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I think there's a saying, isn't it You shouldn't Your
teeth should never be whiter than your eyeballs there, right,
that's what they say, pushing my eyeballs are kind of
bloodshot and sort of jaundice, jaundice a little bit.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I was looking for call me the comedy Garlas came up.
I was just saying, saying, of these guys before we
came in, I've actually been to one of your shows,
or a show that you were on. It was out
in a a big sort of stadium thing out South Ork,
you know, next to where they got the Whitewater rafting. Yes, yes,
there's a stadium out there. This was a while ago,
(19:21):
and I was telling them that you had there were
the strangest hicclers of this show. And I don't know
if you'll remember this, but there was a row of
wasted girls sitting behind me and as you were. And
actually all the comedians on that night were telling their jokes.
They were hickling in support.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Yes, I do remember this gig. It was it was
called the Mixtape and it was like a big gala
of all like Pacific Islander and Maldi, yes comedians.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
And I think Hurley was hosting.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
Maybe this one we might be thinking of a different way.
This one was one was packed. But if it was
the same one, tell them about if you're in South Auckland.
The thing about brown people is when they hickel, they
hickel when they're having fun. Yes, you know, so it's
always like supportive hicckling. It's never like you saw or whatever.
It's like, yeah I know that street, Yeah, yeah you're
you'res and it's like.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
Thank you guys, like shish now.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
But also yeah, I love it. I love it's the
best energy. It was so funny to watch because they
were so supportive. Everything you say, whoa, hey, I'm working
towards a punchline here, Can you guys just give.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Us a bit of breathing that's gonna throw your timing
isn't it.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Yeah, it does, And I feel like it was the
same show. My dad was on the same show and
he did a joke about the warriors and the boys
did not like that, and someone just threw their glasses
at every not.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Wine glasses, like sunglasses. My Dad's like, cheer, thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Really, I think it's I think it's a Kiwi audience
thing where I think comedians do such a good job
of seeming like you're coming up with the stuff off
the cuff that ki audience is like, it's the same
thing where they go, oh, I can just chip in
because I'm thinking of stuff to say as well. They
don't realize that the person has written it down. And
then the other one is like, oh, they're not that funny.
I could get up there and do it too.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Yeah, and I would like to see you try. I
almost said it last night. I was I did a show,
like an improv show, and it was like all the
comedians are like sitting on the stage and we all
do have microphones, and someone's that you have to do
like a certain amount of minutes of improv stand up,
and I had a microphone and I almost started talking
back to them when they were talking. I was like,
oh my god, shut up.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
Yeah, it's not your time yet.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Well, that's a great thing about radios. When people talk
back to the radio, we can't hear it.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Machines now we get feedback straight away.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
But it's good and bad. Yeah, you know, it's good
and bad.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
It's an interesting thing that New Zealand comedy on the
global stage currently thing, because if you've done much stuff overseas,
it seems like, as men and I said, New Zealand
audience is a notoriously difficult.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Yeah, yeah they are.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
I've done like a little bit in like Melbourne and
stuff like I I've done the shows in Melbourne.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
They like laugh and they're just like having a great time.
I'm like, wow, this is a piece so puss can
you have to work for it in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So it's good training probably.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
I've heard lots of international comedians come over and be like,
this is like a really good testing ground for new
jokes because if it's not funny, you will not laugh.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah. No, that's totally a New Zealand thing. I think
it's because New Zealand people are actually inherently my theory
there is possibly wrong, but inherently funny. Yes, I think
New Zealanders have a generally a good sense of humor.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
And as a result, there's a high bar.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
Yes, yeah, you got it. Like a lot of I
would say, like American style comedians. A lot of it
is like yarns or like long format stories and stuff.
But we're like, give us the jokes.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Yeah, there's a punchline.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, come on, let's move, Let's keep moving.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
The flip side of that is also like New Zealanders
are a little bit shy, like I have noticed there's
a single bit of light on them. Like I've seen
people like look to see if their friends are laughing
before they.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
No one's laughing at the start, and everyone feels awkward,
so they're like, oh, I don't want to be the
only one who's in there laughing because no one else
is making it. And then when one person starts, then
everyone starts.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
Yeah, so that's why you've got God bless that God
MC's man and really get those crowds warmed up.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, Well what about if you're like me, I'm not
really a laugh out louder. When I watch stuff, I
enjoy it and I find it really funny. I find
it funny, but that doesn't mean necessarily mean like I
don't sit at home and laugh at television shows for example, right,
But I could be finding something incredibly funny, but I
will not physically laugh.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Okay, well I won't give you a personal invitation to
my show though. Okay, you're welcome to.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Well there's the things I do with people when face
to face, I will, but it's just when I'm watching,
I feel removed from the Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
I think it was the thing like there's been shows
that I've done and like it's been like you know this,
you know, can get whatever it's like. And then people
cut and you think, oh my god, those people hated me.
And then they come up to you after the show
and they'll be like, man, I just said such an
awesome time, that was so funny. But they're just sitting
there smiling at you the whole time, and it's like, yeah,
you do have to sort of open your mouth and
makenois otherwise I think I'm bombing.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
You can't hear a smile. Yeah, I'm the same. I
like watch the TV show and the Missus abilash, I
turned this off. It don't seem like you're into it.
I'm like, this is the funniest thing. I've been the
same in my life. I am dying on the inside
but then outwardly. Yeah, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
So what's happening for your show's Courtney? Where are they?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
How can people get tickets and stuff?
Speaker 6 (24:23):
My show is from the twelfth to the sixteenth of May.
I really have to commit this to memory. I'm so
bad with dates.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I'll look them up for you.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
It's a basement theater and you can get tickets on
the internet by googling my name, or you can go
to the Inset Comedy Festival website and they will be there.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
So that's not next week. It was the week after,
from the Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
A couple of weeks away.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
And are you on the comedy Gala show as well?
Speaker 7 (24:48):
Oh my god, I am. Yes, it's my first gala.
It's very exciting.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
What has everybody told you about performing in the comedy
Gala that it's great fun?
Speaker 6 (24:57):
That you are waiting around for about eleven twelve hours
to do four minutes of gear. Yeah, but that's four
minutes of jokes. Sorry, I always forget comedians saying gear
is it is a different from the four minutes of jokes,
but that it's a great time and it's always a
big party.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
So yeah, it's a cool show. I've been to a
couple of times. There's one they filmed for TV, right, Yeah,
it's as an audience member, it's like an onslaught a
because every different comedian there's like this. Heaps is like
ten people on their thing and everyone's bringing their their
best gear. We call it geared and in the company
(25:35):
world we've called gear and but it's just an onslough
at the moment, from the moment you sit down, it's
just bang, bang bang, the best comedians coming at you.
It's a good time.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
And then they make you sit down and do lots
of practice.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Collapse fucking sucks.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, and then they go, now we haven't quite got
this bit right, so we're going to have to redo
yeah this, but.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, Tony Lyle, I think was doing that for us
when we had When I went one time and he's
just like, OK, now you brung a live real hard
and then claporal hard and you're.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Like, yeah, that is brutal.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
I've been in the audience of the Garlic and also
the Green Room a couple of years, I've just had
had a few wines in town and then be like, hey,
let me into the green room, leave me drink some
of your wines. So, yes, yeah, that is brutal, but
I'm very excited. Did I say he took a year
off comedy, Yes I did. I took a year off
last year to do my Level three and four Teddy
or classes at till one.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
I know, was it how did you go coming back
to it? Was like riding a bike or was it
like starting again when.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
You take a long break from commedators sort of like
you get on stage. And so I've never ridden a joke.
I've never said a funny thing in my life. Like
it does feel like you're not you haven't done it
for a long time. So even if it's just like
four a week, sometimes I feel like that. But this
the experience I've had this time coming back to it,
is that I care way less, Like I'm way less
hard on myself if things don't go well. I find
(26:55):
it easier to write because, like I don't know, sometimes
when I'm writing a joke, I'm like, this is the
worst thing that if anyone's ever heard it, I just
sort of spin out about it for about forty minutes.
But now I'm just like, yeah, I'm just much more relaxed.
I'm really glad that I took the air off.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
You. Are you a sit down, write an entire show
type of writer or are you a live your life,
carry around a notebook, writing down ri asides that's happening
to you and thenulating it.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Oh my, I really find it difficult to sit in
front of a computer. Like when I sit down to
write something, I have a genuine fight orf light response,
like I have to like shackle myself to a computer.
But I would say, like usually what I'll do is,
if something crack up happens off, I have an idea,
I'll write sort of like a half hearted note on
my phone, and then when I need to use it,
I'll rifle through my phone. I just saw a night
(27:43):
the other day that just said black banana. That means
nothing to me.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
But if we do that on this show, you come
in the morning that what the fuck did that mean?
That makes no sense to me.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
But usually, because I'm like I've been described by my
friends as a pig, there are lots of gigs is
that I'll have like you know, like a few ten,
fifteen twenty minute bits, work on them throughout the year
and then find out how to how they.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
All melt together. Far for the hour show Okay Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Corney Dawson, Peachey Keane playing at Basement Theater on the
twelfth sixteenth of May as part of the New Zealand
International Comedy Festival, with best foods made.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
Thanks for coming in, Thank you so much, Jerry and Maniah.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
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