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August 11, 2026 • 46 mins

Today on the Show, Jerry and Manaia talked to Graham Lowe about the whole Orcas/Razor situation... (0:36:00) 

Plus, it is time for a show favourite: Manaia reviews another shopping trolley! (0:07:00) 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
This case truths Jerry and min Night the Hierarchy Breakfast.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Good morning, walk my line to the Hurdache Breakfast. If
you've just joined us, it's nice to have your company.
It's Wednesday, the twelfth of August twenty twenty six. Mon
name's Jimmy Wells has been nice.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Stewart a little bit of sleep in this morning, but
I racked with anxiety because anytime you wake up and
your alarm goes off and you put it back to sleep,
I don't know about you, but I will not get
back to sleep then at that point, So I'm like,
hang on.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
What d is it?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Should I have been? And where am I supposed to be?
And ever since that morning where I well, my alarm
didn't go off and I slept straight through it, I've
had horrible alarm anxiety, I know, for months now. Oh no,
but woke up to some great news fifty four Neil.
If you're just waking up the all Black's absolutely dusted,
Mane on his sharks, I would say we'd be happy
with that, Yeah, you'd.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Say that they'd be happy with fifty four nel Yeah,
particularly the Neill part. Yeah, not even managing to put
a penalty kickover.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yeah, that's right. And so what is it now? A
week and a half until the first Test against the
spring Box. We're looking pretty good. We're looking pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Well I can go, but I mean the spring Box
will be a different proposition. They will come out fired up,
with a huge crowd behind them and a whole of
South Africa behind them as well.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Huge show. This morning, I believe we're going to be
talking to Graham Low, who's part of the bid for
the Southern Orcas. They're the team that's just appointed raiser
and a bid to become the twentieth team in the NRL.
What the hell's going on with Chris Luxon and them?
That a big meeting yesterday, Now they having another big
meeting today. I don't know what about well, presumably making

(01:44):
petrol cheaper, I don't know. So Jack Tame's going to
join us to try and make heads and tails at
that at some point this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Will we have a new prime minister today? Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Might well do?

Speaker 3 (01:54):
I thought the election was in November.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
There's the heartache breakfast. Welcome along, nice Davia.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Company, Jerry and Leni the Hodarchy breakfast.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
So could we have a new prime minister by the
end of the day.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
He should go.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
He's been totally in a picture. Couldn't be a bad idea.
I'm a national supporter. I'm not happy with the way
the government's performing. You need to have a suitable replacement.
I don't think there is one at the moment.

Speaker 6 (02:20):
But I think blacks of my need a bit of
a check up their career because he has done what
he said and.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I voted for him.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yeah. One News took to the streets and asked a
bunch of morons what they thought, and that's what they
came back with.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
They were looking for who else wants to talk to
a camera?

Speaker 7 (02:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:37):
I mean, if you're going about your business and some
person shoves a microphone or camera in your face and
as sue your political views, who's gonna say what they
seriously other than other than some either people have massively
opinionated or rape their own opinions, or a bunch of morons.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
So what has going on? So they had a meeting yesterday.
He called all of the MP's in his crew to Wellington,
including himself, who I don't think was in Wellington for
what is he called himself to Welling? He called himself
to Wellington. Did I pay for that?

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Ah? Probably?

Speaker 3 (03:14):
And then they so they had some big meeting. Yess
they've got how punishing must that have been?

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Caucus meeting or caucus So everybody that's a National MP
gets called to Wellington for the meeting.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
But that's not the cabinet.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
No cabinet's different. Cabinet is set up of New Zealand
First Act and National mpiece. That's the cream of the crop.
They're the ones that make all the decisions. The cabinet.
The caucus are the ones that that's just all of
the National MPs.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Okay, gotcha? And then well will no one national is
talking to the press and he wouldn't address anything. But
it can only have been that they were going to
roll them again or they tried to.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
I think what has happened is there've been some talkings
in the background in the National Party. This is how
I am standard anyway from political insiders. There's been some
there's been some some conversations in the background that have
leaked into the media because what happens is MPs do
talk to them. The relationships actually a lot looser than
what people think. So so the rumors have got out

(04:14):
into the media that there have been National MPs talking
about whether or not it's a good idea to go
into the into the election with Chris Luxon. He's the
Prime Minister. He's made a couple of gaffes recently, according
to political political insiders, he doesn't listen to advice from
a lot of advisers. He does his own thing and
oftentimes the other MPs don't know where things are going.

(04:34):
I think, as I understand that some of the MP's
are concerned about where the National Party will sit at
the end of the election with a reduced majority and
then going into coalition talks with New Zealand First and Act,
and whether or not in the next election cycle over
the next three years they'll have even less power and
ACT in New Zealand First will have more of their

(04:55):
policies that then the National Caucus will have to try
and say yep, we're into the.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
And then on top of that, if the if there's
rumors that he's not listening to them anyway, you'd feel
pretty you'd feel pretty.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, well, he's been going, I mean the MMP thing
the other day for example, he said that, you know,
I think we need to have a reference and apparently
he didn't really talk to caucus about that. What that
was just he was just answering your question honestly. Yes,
So he's been caught and then he went to the
Rot Business Association called him a bunch of kids, had
to apologize. So there's been a couple of things in

(05:31):
recent times.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Hey come on. So so then there's another meeting today,
I think is that right at like nine thirty nine,
So we'll be on here at that stage. Well, we'll
talk to Jack tam later on to pull all of
this apart. It just it reminds me of the last
time this happened was only a few weeks ago, well
April April year yep. And I got the idea to

(05:53):
try and roll you because how don't they have a vote?
And they go if you got the numbers, and so
you've got to be pretty serious if you going to
call one of these meetings.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yes, apparently numbers. Former PM John Key has been lobbying
other national MP's to stick with Luxen, arguing that changing
leaders you know, this close to an election is incredibly risky.
Some of the contenders who might for the National Party
leadership if he did, if he didn't have the numbers
and didn't have the confidence in caucus, would be maybe

(06:22):
Chris Bishop, maybe Erica Stamford, those two of the high
flying National MPs. Are they going to be better than
Chris Luckson? Who knows?

Speaker 3 (06:29):
It is one of the problems, as this person has
written through on three four eighth three, that we can't
appoint whereby is the prime Minister until after the Grand Final?
Is that a big part of the problem here? We
need do we need to move the do we need
to move the election back a little bit? So again,

(06:50):
he'd be.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Good bene first Australia from Minister of New Zealand. This
is the hidiarchy.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Breakfast, Jerry and Mini the darchy breakfast.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Oh Monica's got something. Monica's got something.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Oh Monica's got something that you may have doing on
one of the pre can we get can we get
a little country on this one? Can get a little
country on this thing?

Speaker 8 (07:11):
Old Monica's has softing. Oh Monica's has.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
What Monica's guard Correct me if I'm wrong, But have
you added have you sung along without rudor to try
and pull that and make that sound like I'm the
right key.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
I never I'd never do something like that, Jerry.

Speaker 8 (07:33):
Old Monica's has softing. Oh Monica's has what st Monica's go.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
I'm sure maybe there's done something to me there.

Speaker 9 (07:45):
Maybe there's three or four of me underneath your original
doing a couple of harmonies, a couple of octaves, bringing
something to life underneath it.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Maybe if you had to hit the right notes of
the first place, Jerry, he wouldn't have had to.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Maybe if I had for.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
A second, he's put music to me.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Okay, so this is your original, Jerry.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Old Monica's has something. Old Monica's has something? What something
as Monica's Guard.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Or as it now sounds, old Monica's has something?

Speaker 8 (08:13):
How good old Monica's has You.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
Can't be upset about that?

Speaker 1 (08:17):
What something as Monica's Guard? It's Look, it's all right,
but it's a weird rhythm as well. I'm out of time.
Not only am I off key, but I'm out of times.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Interesting Harven is in there, yeah, for sure, So, gentlemen,
as you know, longtime listeners of the show will be
aware as well. I haven't eaten anything in over a
year because a year ago in the suburb that I
live in, they shut our supermarket down, so I have
had no access to any kind of food for over
a year. You would have seen the protests. People were saying,

(08:49):
what are we going to do? There's only one supermarket
in our community, which is in the largest city in
the country, and one block one exit off the motorway
away from the road in the country that has more
food outlets than any other road in the country, Lincoln Road.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yes, so I thought some pres I thought some preers.
Man thought some preers. So what was that meaning that
you were going to have to do? Like how far
were you going to have to draw?

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Mate? I've been, oh to a super much. Yeah, there's
one just across the motorway, so I would say, oh,
it would almost be eight hundred meters. Wow, I know,
I know, Or I've got to go to the dairy
and that doesn't have some certain things made. I've seen
people fishing off the motorway, you know, just to try
and get by this, and the trying to just to
feed their farer.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
But exciting news. It's all over because New World opened yesterday.
In my community.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
We were in there.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
I saw Tony Lyle and they're just poking his nose
and for a.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Shop, So it really is a new world.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
It is a whole new world. Annoyingly, though, we actually
took that opportunity to do our weekly shop. A lot
of people are in there just having a nosey get out.
It was one of the most I know. You would
have loved this. You would have hated that, Jerry. You
would have loved this though, because it was a brand spanker.
The shelves were immaculate. It looked like a movie set,
you know when the movie sets look fake because every

(10:10):
product is exactly where it should be, facing the right direction.
There's nothing missing from anywhere.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, it was that. So they didn't use that as
an opportunity to run a supermarket sweep. Do you remember
the game show Supermarket Sweep and you mother and daughter
or father son or father daughter or husband wife combinations
would get a supermarket trolley and they had one minute
to get as much stuff as they could and then

(10:34):
it was checked out and whoever got the most got
to keep all of that. They were like, there were
like three contestants and that was commentated and they go, oh,
they're going for the hams, and so they'd try and
put as many hand because their hands are worth quite
a lot. They'd go to the caviat because the biggest
dollar amount when it was checked out was the one
that would you'd win and win all the groceries.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
I'd pitch up at their shopping trolley right next to
the thing and then use one arm to sweep everything
off that shelf, and that that was the money shot
that AnyWho, they didn't do that disappointing they didn't do
one of those. Note there was all sorts going on.
It was a bit a fan fare. But most excitingly
for old Monikahs is brand new shopping trolleys. And so

(11:16):
this morning I would like to present for your for
your listening pleasure, a review of the shopping trolleys that
that's out of two Peninsula New Well just opened. Use today.
As you would expect, the bars, you know, the railing
of the basket of the trolley immaculate. It's like a
gun metal gray with like a plastic coating finish over
the top of it. It felt smooth. There were no

(11:38):
cabbage leaves in the bottom of it. There were no
leftover receipts. The plastic absolutely immaculate, the handlebars just smooth,
no sticky things, no little bits on it, no chips
out of it. Wheels, wheels, so disappointing amount of here
in the front left wheel I will save, despite a

(12:00):
brand new Now, we were there at about two in
the afternoon, so this may have been the trolley's second
or third outing. Very light and responsive front two wheels.
All four wheels touched the ground at the same time.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
That's important.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
There wasn't like the front ones spinning around as you
pushed it. Confusingly though, I noticed as I took one
of the corners that the whole thing slid out and
one of the back wheels turns. Only one of them,
oh no, which made for a very long Yeah, it
made for a very strange maneuvering situation.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
You end up having to ride it like a bumper boat.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
It's a little bit, ye, You get a bit of
understeer coming around the corners. And I would say despite,
you know, given that it was only the second or
third time this trolley'd ever been used, I would like
the ride to have been a bit smoother.

Speaker 6 (12:45):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Having conversely under load, what's the tiar on that thing. Well,
the tiers about three hundred bucks worth of groceries and
that's we're getting meat this week too. But under load
surprisingly maneuverable. I think thanks to that third artculated wheels.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
So that's why the third wheel is like it is.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yes, I was overall the experience. I think esthetics player
big part into my rating. But I'm going to give
it an eight point five.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, that's high. That's high. Will you take that supermarket
trolley home?

Speaker 2 (13:20):
No?

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Something in the backyard.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
So the wheel that's so the wheel that doesn't turn
has a lock on it, so you can't. Ah, I
can't take it out of the parking lot. I think,
Oh wow, I didn't try to. But I think that's
what it's for.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
That's a new innovation. Yeah, smart though.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
There you go. I think that's second only to the
Pack and Save Lincoln Rose.

Speaker 7 (13:39):
Jury and the Night, The Hodarchy Breakfast, Jeremy Wells and
the Nie to it The Hdarchy Breakfast.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Seven thirty on the Hidarchy Breakfast Time for you later.
Sport headlines thanks to expert Ultra the beer for here
The All Blacks have Overpowered Hosts and Natal Sharks fifty
four nil. They scored eight unanswered tries and led fourteen
milo at halftime. One injury concern has emerged. Damien mackenzie
hobbled off in the first half with what appeared to
be an ankle issue.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
That's unfortunate. You would think at least the way that
Dave Rennie's been going, he would have started at fallback
this next weekend, wouldn't he. I mean, we've got plenty.
We've got plenty about you.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
That sucks. So it's going to be a thing when
you got these big long tours.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
I think ruggy. Yeah, rugby in particular. You know, it's
one thing to go and play, you know, cricket for it,
you're still going to get injuries. But rugby in particular
is a real brutal sport.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah. I think that's why you've got to have big squads.
You've got to be ready for all sorts of different
eventualities and you've got to bring in Richie mo. More
details are emerging about christ Church's push for an NRL team,
including who's involved behind the scenes.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
All right, fine, yes, I've got a hand in this.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
The City Council in christ Church, en Z have been
talking to the NRL christ Church in Ze Christ Churchens
have been talking to the NR about an expansion franchise
for almost two years, with discussions ramping up of late
former Rugby League chair Rion Edwards as reportedly among those

(15:11):
leading the work. The Council's not working with Sir Graham
Lowe's Southern orchret bid Well.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Oh, we'll talk to Sir Graham Lowe himself about that
later on the show.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Also finding out about Lowe's Barbie. That great TV show
where Lowey racked up a barbie and had some people
around him. I remember the Helen Clark episode.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Meanwhile, Luke Metcalfe has retained the Warriors number seven jersey
in an unchanged starting side for SAT These game against
the Broncos and Brisbane. You'll back up a strong display
from the win over the Panthers to Mighty Martin remains
out with the hamstring injury. The loan change on the
bench is the return of Demitric Vai Manger from a
rib injuries. Brisbane have named captain and lork Patrick Carrigan

(15:54):
to start penning the result of a judiciary hearing for
a keyless high tackle and the Broncos lost to the Dollies.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Whisper. I was watching a clip of Billy Slater saying,
don't look at the table when you play the Broncos.
This is the top four team who is actually in
the bottom eight. But they are you know, they've got
it in them. So the Warriors should should be should
be careful here. But I think we're riding high. I
think we go another hucker this weekend. Oh you reckon
Brisbane as uncourt hucker.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Okay, what fans would love it? Brisbane paying two seventy five. Really,
the New Zealand Warrior's paying a dollar forty six.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Jerry Aman night the hot I keep breakfast.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Trying to get hold of the Mushroom Festival organizer live
system at moment she's not picking up, so we'll keep trying.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
There should be zoked on mushrooms in the meantime. Fellas,
have you've seen what's in front of me here?

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Have you seen these things?

Speaker 7 (16:46):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Oh's oh she's describe the oshi.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
No, no, what is It's a little rubber you know
what I think they are. It's like remember those little
toys you used to get as a kid that you
would put on the Indian pencil. Yeah, that's basically what
ok and one of the supermarkets. And you'll forgive me
for not knowing which gets you. If you spend a
certain amount of money, you get those hes. All I
know is that the parents out in the office are

(17:11):
going crazy about them, so much so that we've been
asked to talk about them on the radio, and I
think we've done that. So shall we talk to Lifsus
and now about mushrooms?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Good Morning Live, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
Good morning, Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
So tell us about the Mushroom Festival. It's a four
day celebration on K Road transformed into k Road transformed
into a mushroom trail. The public can discover the extraordinary
world of fungi. What sort of fungi are we talking
about here?

Speaker 5 (17:45):
Yeah, all sorts. So we're talking about adedible fungi, delicious
porcini and truffles. There's going to be special dishes on
offer up and down key routers about twenty different restaurants.
So we're talking about adedible fungi. We're talking about whimsical fun.
You were having a mushroom parade, so there'll be lots
of people running around and cool handmade costumes. We're also

(18:07):
talking about magic mushrooms. So we're having a very cool
speaker series where we interview a couple of fungy experts.
One of what two is actually studying psychedelic mushrooms here.

Speaker 6 (18:19):
In New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
What is a whimsical mushroom?

Speaker 5 (18:23):
I think a whimsical mushroom. I mean you've got to
start with the classic toadstool, the red and white capped mushroom.
I mean it's in so many story books and lots
of yeah, kind of Alice in Wonderland type films and Sympasia,
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Love is a toadstool a mushroom.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
So the toadstool is a mushroom usually just in general
run of speech, like mushroom is something you can eat,
a toadstool is something you can't. So the toadstool is
kind of the lethal side, you know, the furtive side that, yeah,
you're not going to cut up and put through apasta.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
More rot and thinking that we've got a pretty healthy
mushroom scene.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
Yeah, I mean we've got a very healthy mushroom scene.
We've got thousands of species here in New Zealand and
about ninety percent of them aren't found anywhere else in
the world, so there's a ton of biodiversity here. I
went on a really short day walk one time on
the South Island and I saw species in every color
of the rainbow in just a couple of hours. So
very healthy mushroom scene in many different contexts.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Mushroom Festival co organizer Love Cisen, I've got some problematic
in laws. Will I be able to find any deathcap
mushrooms that I can put into a beef Wellington to
serve them?

Speaker 5 (19:35):
Oh my gosh, classic question. I shouldn't laugh. There are
death caps that grow in New Zealand. I wouldn't recommend
that route. I would recommend some conflict resolutions. But yeah,
stands for your question, the scholar's question. There are some

(19:56):
death caps that grow in New Zealand, so if you
are foraging for edible mushrooms, you need to be very
careful and check several times that you're picking something that
truly is edible and that you've got a positive identification
on the species.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
I hear a lot about mushroom season. The dual mushrooms
have a season. Does the mushroom have its own season?

Speaker 5 (20:16):
You know, I've actually got a little bone to pick
with this because I hear this a lot too. And
the thing is is that it's actually always mushroom season
or fungi season rather pretty much anytime you walk around,
go on a bushwalk, even as you're walking around the city,
fung guy is always there. It's growing on the trees
and fence posts. But I think where that comes from
is that the season that porcini comes up in cities

(20:40):
like christ Church and Duneden and Wellington tends to kind
of be in the autumn. But really the fact of
the matter is all different species they'll fruit it. They'll
come up from underground or from within deadwood whenever the
conditions suit them. So it's not so much that they're like,
oh it's autumn, you know, time to fruit. It's just
that if the temperature and rain is right, they'll come up.

(21:01):
So sometimes you get them coming up when you don't
expect it. But it's really always mushroom season.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Mushroom Fascibal co organizer and author Live sysm is it
may or magic mushrooms or psilocybin? Are they having a
little bit of a thing at the moment.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
I would say they're definitely having. They're getting a lot
more attention right now, possibly even more than a moment,
a couple of moments. There's a lot of interest in
them right now, and that's actually been building for decades.
But even you know, here in Auckland, we've got some
amazing world leading research happening here in this city about
using magic mushrooms to support mental health challenges, to treat

(21:41):
addiction and eating disorders. There's really fascinating research happening here
in New Zealand around this and of course lots of
people getting interested in how they might use psilocybin to
support their own well being, but of course it's still
a class A drug.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, I think you're is conducting some of that research
on the weekend.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Live organizer of the Mushroom Festival four day Celebration and
k Road, thank you so much for your time this morning.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Jerry and Leni the Hodarchy Breakfast.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Time to play. It's academic. Give us a call now.
Eight hundred Hodeki oh, eight hundred four to eight seventy five,
two hundred dollars worth of bunny vouchers up the grabs today,
two hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
All right, let's go to the phone lines, we find
Mark from the Todonger You are a retired What high
school will you be representing this morning? Mark?

Speaker 6 (22:33):
Boys?

Speaker 8 (22:34):
Way?

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Gisband Boys High? Howfu? High school? I'm looking down here.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
I don't think it's it's not on there.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
No, it's not on there.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
It would be just between Fraser and Gore.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
But it's not okay, Mark Todonger retired. When did you retire? Mark?

Speaker 6 (22:48):
Oh jesus, it'd be be out six years ago?

Speaker 1 (22:52):
There, six years ago? Do you mind me asking how
old you are? Mark?

Speaker 6 (22:56):
Oh jeez, it's seventy one in September seventy one.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
You don't sound a day over forty.

Speaker 6 (23:02):
Oh jeez, your allegiance.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Aka Mark. You know how this works. You've just got
to answer three questions correct out of five. You've got
forty five seconds. So there is a time. There's a
time on this one. You've got to get got to
get the answers out there. Quack and you'll win the
two hundred dollar bunnings of Actually, let's get into it.

Speaker 10 (23:21):
We'll get.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
The longer lasting. Chew is the famous marketing slogan for
what chocolate bar wixes. No, it's a Pixie Caramel. In
nineteen ninety two, Dexy's Midnight Runners had a hit song
called what on Ileen Come correct? Three men have played
more than one hundred and forty tests for the All

(23:45):
Blacks Name.

Speaker 6 (23:46):
Two Richie McCall, Yep Wilson, Winner, Ray.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
No, Sam Way, lac Or Bowden, Barrett Zakreb is the
capital of which country?

Speaker 6 (23:58):
Czechas Slovakia.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
No, it's Croatia, which means that you can't do it,
because if you've got this next one, you get two
out of three. Yeah, we'll give it a go anyway.
The Inner Circle song bad Boys was the theme for
what real life law enforcement TV show Bad Boys, Bad Boys,
What You're going to do? It was cops Bad luck. Mark.

(24:24):
Those questions are too difficult?

Speaker 6 (24:26):
They were, Oh, they were pretty hard.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
I think Mark was I think Mark was hard done by.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
I don't think that was that.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
I think good on you, Mark.

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Speaker 1 (24:53):
So could we have a new prime minister by the
end of the day. The Prime Minister's called an urgent
in person meeting of the National Caucus nine point thirty.
I think this morning is the time that they're going
to do it is.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Does he not understand that we've got deadlines during we're
off here at ten?

Speaker 1 (25:09):
We need to know by that well. I think that's
the time that things sort of start to crank up
in Wellington, about nine to thirty. So pressure over his
leadership has been mounting. He survived a confidence vote in
April I think it was this year, but the fact
that this is happening again only four months later is
a major warning. Signed veteran TVNZ reporter, newsreader, host of

(25:29):
Q and A with Jack Tame and father of one,
Jack Tame joins us, Now, thanks for your time, Jack.
Are we going to have a new prime minister today?

Speaker 11 (25:38):
I wouldn't bet the house on it, but if I
was forced to make a call, I would say yes.
I think it's much likelier than not that Christopher Luxen
will be rolled as Prime Minister today. I don't know
who his replacement will be, but if you look at
it from the perspective of his caucus. He had that
vote of confidence in April, and I've been making calls

(25:59):
over the last week and a half or so, and
it's been pretty clear to me that there are members
in that national Caucus who supported Christopher Luxon last time round,
whose confidence in him has diminished in the time since
that last vote, and honestly, some of them are really
quite angry with components of his leadership. So yeah, I mean,

(26:24):
I don't think anyone can say with certainty exactly what's
going to happen when they go into that meeting room
this morning, But one thing I'd say is the damage
is done either way.

Speaker 6 (26:32):
Right, So.

Speaker 11 (26:34):
Let's imagine for a moment and somehow he survives this.
So what, We've got a prime minister who's fewer than
one hundred days from an election, who's basically faced two
major challenges to his leadership from his own colleagues. I mean,
it's hardly the kind of firm footing that the party
would want to be on going into an election. So
I would have thought, given the events of the last

(26:54):
twenty four hours, it's very unlikely that the party won't
ultimately decide to replace them.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
So there was a big meeting yesterday, and then there's
another one today. What was each of those meetings for.

Speaker 11 (27:06):
So they didn't have the meeting yesterday though usually they
would have a meeting on like a zoom meeting in
the evening, but they decided not to have that yesterday.
Instead he called an in person meeting. Yeah, and so
it's a recess week in Parliament, so the Polleyes wouldn't
be a lot of them wouldn't be in Wellington this week,

(27:26):
so they've all had to hustle down there over the
last twenty four hours or so to be there in
person this morning. But by being there in person, it's
a lot easier for them to have a vote and
to have some of those pretty robust conversations. I mean,
there is a school of thought that actually, from a
strategic perspective, if Luxon was trying to hang on, which
we understand he has been, that it was actually the

(27:46):
wrong call to call the meeting, like, if you've got challenges,
let them take that first big step, you know, and
that actually maybe if he hadn't called an in person meeting,
it might not have pushed the issue and he perhaps
had a greater chance of But yeah, so they're all
in Wellington nine point thirty this morning. I reckon, it'll
be very fast. We'll find out very quickly whether or

(28:07):
not Luxon is gone. And the question is if he is,
what happens thereafter.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Jack came How risky is this for the National Party?

Speaker 11 (28:17):
It's definitely risky. I mean, if they keep Luxin, it's messy.
If they ditch Luxin, it's messy. And there's a kid
of conventional wisdom that comes with leadership spills that suggests
that those who are agitating for change often underestimate just
how messy it's going to be, so even if they

(28:38):
are better communicators. So you take the front runners that
have been discussed over the last day or so, the
likes of Erica Stanford and for s Bishop. I mean
they are I think objectively much stronger communicators and public
than the Prime minister. And the Prime Minister would acknowledge
that at times his communication has let him down. Well,
that's all well and good, But then when you have

(28:58):
the scrutiny that comes with how rolled your boss for
the job, and you have some really disgruntled colleagues who
feel like you've been disloyal and feel like their career
prospects have been hurt because of your decision. It gets
a whole lot trickier. So even though the conventional wisdom says,
you know that it would be messy if they roll them,

(29:18):
there is another way to look at it. And that's
the kind of just cinder effect that Disinda Arderne had
after Andrew Little stood down. The difference that time was
that Andrew Little voluntarily stood down, so he didn't cling
on and try to hold on to his position. He
saw the writing on the wall and quite magnanimously, I
think it certainly, you know, relisive to lots of other

(29:39):
leadership stills. Quite magnanimously, he stepped aside, and she stepped in,
so the whole party was able to come in behind her.
There's nothing to suggest that this situation is going to
be like that. The one perhaps saving points for any
new leader, if indeed Luxon is rolled, is that they
are likely to be better communicators and better in the

(30:04):
kind of intensity of the media spotlight than Luckson has
been over the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
No matter, we are politics light, it's an interesting day
for New Zealand politics today. Veteran TVNZ reporting newsreader host
of Q and A with Jack Tame, father of one
Jack Tame, thank you so much for your time this morning.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
We really have prevented it. Text on three four o three.
I don't know how I feel about shortening politicians. To Polly's.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Will, Chris lux And if he remains prime Minister emerged
with a.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Rug, oh and a soul patch.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
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Speaker 1 (30:40):
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We do answer our phone. You can also text us
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Speaker 3 (30:47):
Where you do read our text machine just like this.
If he had just taken some peptides for his heir,
Luxon wouldn't be in this position. How are the peptides
going rudder? Because you injected yourself live on here?

Speaker 9 (30:58):
Well, Jerry this morning off air actually, and I don't
know if you heard it, he said, you can see
a couple of little baby hears coming into the hairline.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
I just looked up at that top of the headline.
But to be fair, my eyesight is poor.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Yeah, so good point.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
I need to quantify that. Yeah, what I said earlier
with that, but I'm just looking. There's a little bit
of fuzz s done to come through lower down fuzz.

Speaker 9 (31:19):
I think the problem is that the hairline now is
not that solid, and there are odd little bits to
hear every now and again, just sticking out. So I
think you are overestimating the effect of the peptides so far.
But it is only week three of a twelve week process.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Now, is this one of these peptides that makes your
skin go purple as well? What are those ones?

Speaker 2 (31:38):
No?

Speaker 9 (31:39):
I did do some pep tides into the arm on
a test patch. There is your bicepskin bigger?

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Whoa? What are these are the ones that make you
dick triple? Are they the same ones?

Speaker 7 (31:49):
No?

Speaker 9 (31:49):
No, No, The ones I've got don't make the dicks ribble,
make the bollos much smaller.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
Okay, yeah, oh yeah, much smaller.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Well that's a roundabout around about.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
I think you might. I think you've got follow calenus
more for you. I reckon, that's actually it's because actually
you've got lots of here.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
No, I don't know. There's a little there's a patch
at the back that I'm a bit worried about.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Oh mate, you're talking to me. You're telling me that
photo that my missus trus crashed down in front of her,
and she tried to take a mirase outh and just
took a photo of the bald spot in the back
of my head. God damn, give me some of those
pitt tights and.

Speaker 9 (32:22):
The creeping in the corners. It's probably the other thing
that's I don't think you've got corner creeper.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
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Speaker 6 (32:54):
Morning, Rainer, how are you Biken morning?

Speaker 5 (32:57):
I'm good? Thank you Rainer.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Firstly, can you say your name please? There it is
that's going to be your buzzer today.

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Okay, should we go to Nick from Hawks Bay Morning?

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Nick?

Speaker 3 (33:13):
How are you?

Speaker 10 (33:14):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Good sales?

Speaker 3 (33:15):
You are already at an advantage over Rainer because of
your short name. Do you want to test your buzzer out? Nick, Yeah, powerful, punctual.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Just quicking, just checking Rainer and Nick. You guys know
the difference between people that are dead and alive. Next
a bit, but we'll be on it. Vita signs of life.
Are you looking for breathing? Yep, you're looking for a heartbeat?

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Yeah? Something like that? All right? One hundred dollars up
for grabs. Elevation, elevation, one hundred dollars up for grabs.
Let's get into it. First person, former CEO of In
New Zealand and Unilever Chris lux And dead or alive?

Speaker 5 (33:59):
Rainer?

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Rainer Chris Lasin is alive. Yeah, he's currently hanging on
at age fifty six.

Speaker 5 (34:07):
Fifty six.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Jerry, is he only fifty six six?

Speaker 7 (34:12):
See?

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yeah, how did you think he was sixty?

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah? Fifty six?

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Okay, kick him man, damn okay, I'm just surprised. Okay,
all right, Person number two, you're trying to roll them?
Win are four Olympic golds? Ian Ferguson dead or alive? Nick?

Speaker 5 (34:37):
He is dead?

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Rainer ave, yes, he's seventy four years old. Something for
the mums. Ian Ferguson, great, great, Reggie Fergus.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Just counting the answers up, Rainer has a two nil
lead over Neck.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
You're in trouble. Neck, You're in trouble him professional wrestler
in the nineteen eighty in nineteen nineties Born Rayed Trailer
is the Big boss Man Dead or alive? Rayler the
Big boss.

Speaker 6 (35:07):
Man is dead.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Three Rayner knows her deads and the lives. Congratulations. He
died in twenty twenty four, age seventy six, gone too.

Speaker 6 (35:19):
So yeah, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Congratulations, rain and Nick talkers throughout what went wrong.

Speaker 6 (35:26):
Driving the car.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
You can't drive a car and tell whether people are
dead or alive.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
And you've always said that, Jared.

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Speaker 1 (35:49):
So news over the last couple of days that Christchurch
City Council has been working with the NRL for two
years to secure the competition's twentieth team, the Southern Orcas
are Then reports that former All Blacks coach Scott Raiser
Robertson has been offered a four year contract to become
the inaugural head coach, joining us now at the latest

(36:09):
chairman of the Orcers Good rugby league legend, Sir Graham
low thanks for your time, Lowe. We appreciate it. What's
happening here, We're going straight to the horse's mouth. What's
going on?

Speaker 6 (36:23):
Well, pleasure to be on with your radioherarchy. It's just
fantastic and a thrill for me. What's going on is
our bid which i'm chairman of the Orcas bid. We're
just we've put our best foot forward, put everything. We've
put a four year conditional offer to raise a to

(36:43):
be a coach. We're not we're not part of the
council whatever they're whatever they're doing, and we're just sitting
waiting to get the response from Peter Bellanders of which
I've got to share with you. There's no actual timeline
for I suppose when they think they're ready they'll come

(37:05):
back to us.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Well, I suppose they've got a couple of because there's
the Perth Beers next year and then PNG the year
after that. So I suppose this, but obviously you would
want to answer sooner rather than later. I guess the
other big question about this announcement this week, Sir Graham,
is that Raisor Robinson is a rugby union coach.

Speaker 6 (37:23):
Yeah, well it's I think that's part of the exciting
thing that when you when you drill right right down,
is just a fantastic coach. Obviously, his his area of
expertise has been in rugby union. I think personally he
won't have any issue whatsoever changing over to rugby rugby
leg He has studied the game and the most important

(37:48):
of all, he's a great leader of men. He's a
person who can get the best out of others, and
he he won't compromise his principles I know, to fit
in with mediocrity, and that's exactly where we're coming from.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
What's the vibe, Blowie? Do you reckon?

Speaker 2 (38:06):
This?

Speaker 6 (38:06):
Is?

Speaker 1 (38:06):
This is a go what what? What do you reckon?

Speaker 6 (38:11):
The vibe is as good as I can feel. I
suppose it's we just don't know where we've We think
we've we have an understanding of what the n r
L we're looking for, and we've addressed all the areas
that they You know that the n r L would
like a new a new club, new side to to

(38:35):
bring along and and so we're just we're just waiting
to see. But the vibe, I've got a good vibe
at the moment, if I can say that.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
And what about the name, because I know the Orcas
is quite synonymous with Wellington Rugby League. Would they be
have enough with the South Island team being called the Workers?

Speaker 6 (38:54):
Yeah, I'm sure they would be that.

Speaker 10 (38:57):
The Orcas are a great name, and and you know
they they mean teamwork, They're they're smart, they're super intelligent,
they're fast, I understand family, it's it's a fantastic name.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
I believe you get too close to them though lowly.
What would it mean for the Warriors, because of course
that the New Zealand Warriors. Would they remain the New
Zealand Warriors or would would they have to change?

Speaker 6 (39:30):
I'm sure they can remain New Zealand Warriors or whatever
they want. But it'll be fantastic for the Warriors if
you just imagine the local derby imagine, you know, just
put your mind forward a few years like the Warriors
playing the Orcas. And I was I was at Lang
Park for the very first State of Origin game and

(39:50):
in nineteen eighty and the tribalism and the passion that
that brought out was just something that I've never seen before.
I believe this sort of competition and competitive revive rivalry
between you know, two neighboring sides or two sides in

(40:10):
one country will bring out something similar.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
As a league fan from way back, Lowie, you must
be bloody pleased with how the game is at the moment,
not only in New Zealand, but the NRL competition, the
new rules that they've got going on. You know, you
must you must love it.

Speaker 6 (40:27):
I certainly do. And you can't get away from the
impact and the the you know what the Warriors have
actually done. The Warriors have bought a sport in that
the fans are able to basically reach out in touch.
And I'm the fantastic thing is particularly being a you know,

(40:50):
a rugby league fan. For I'm eighty years old in
a couple of months and being a rugby league person
all my life. I can I look around and I
see like I'm on the motorway at them. If I'd
pulled off the motorway and went to the local shopping center,
we would see all these little kids running around with
NRL Warriors in particular Jerseys, and it's just fantastic because

(41:11):
the game the NRL is providing an excitement, it's providing
something they can easily understand what's going on, and it
is just non NonStop excitement.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yeah, players are being able to play and it's a
bloody good product. Just before you go, Lowe, any any
word that maybe you might crank back up Lowey's Barbie
again that TV show. I know there's a whole lot
of us that were huge fans of Lowey's Barbie, particularly
the episode with Helen Clark.

Speaker 6 (41:38):
Well, gee was I'll tell you what, if we get
this license, I'll be cranking up more than the barbecue.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
So Graham, low thank you so much for your time
this morning. All the best of everything, Lowey.

Speaker 6 (41:50):
Good on your guys.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
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Speaker 1 (41:55):
A lot of research, but a few numbers coming out
on car colors. You see us the other day, Kiwis
are really really boring when it comes to car colors.
The most boring, the most boring market in the world
for car color. No, I know it.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
I've conducted my own research when when I was a
kid and would drive from Wayman to Tomorrow, which is
probably about half an hour forty minutes. We would pick
a car color and whoever had the most cars of
that color would win by the time we got to Timorrow,
and it was hotly contested to get white or gray.
Those are the colors of cars.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
You want? White or gray? Well, white's good because it
doesn't shar up the dirt. I mean, you think it
does sharp the dirt, but it it doesn't quite shar
up the dirt.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
You know.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
It's yeah, not the same. And gray's good like that too.
Gray gray looks good even when it's a little bit dirty.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Well, and also gray, as I've found out more recently,
is the color of the coating that they use to
cover up rust. So if you have a car and
you think it's going to rust, gray is the kind
of car that you want. Oh, you cover that up nice.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
So globally, so New Zealanders like white, black, gray, and silver.
The latest automotive color reports is that still number one
in Asia Pacific at thirty six percent. That's white.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Do you know, I think you can actually get a
cheaper rate on your insurance if your car is white.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Well, it's safer to have a white car.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Yeah, you don't want a gray colored car because that's
color of the road.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yeah, but if you've got if you've got a European
carp particularly a German car, you need it in gray. Oh,
daytona gray German gray is what it is. Yeah, nobody
wants a Nobody wants me to secondhand. They won't buy
a German Carlyst. It's gray, is that right? Yep? Care
more recenttter resale value?

Speaker 3 (43:39):
How that you say that any ardis or Mercedes? Is
that I've seen? What's the legality around painting a van camouflage?
Are their laws against that?

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Not that I'm aware of?

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Great, because my father and I did that in the
early two thousands. Oh, I got a bit with just
like fence paint, and you just got to wonder how
I still become dying in that thing because nobody could
see it.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, I mean one of the legalities around building a
van out of Mawi Wawe and driving across the border
like Chichen Chong did. Yeah, what other legalities, That's what
I want to know. And out the out the exhaust
came marijuana. You could get stone by wandering around behind
the van, well back then probably illegal, but these days
probably not, probably as long as it was medicinal.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
So quick around the room. What color? What color cars
were running?

Speaker 1 (44:28):
What do you got? Gray? Gray, gray, black?

Speaker 4 (44:33):
I'm blue?

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Blue?

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Well you're blue?

Speaker 3 (44:38):
YEA? Even seen the blue press?

Speaker 4 (44:41):
The blue press?

Speaker 1 (44:42):
I thought it was white.

Speaker 9 (44:43):
No, no, no, it's a blue one. And it's dirty
all the time. I never cleaned that thing, never ever, even.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Still got that chicken bone in it.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Yes, Oh does that?

Speaker 4 (44:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (44:56):
Why don't clean it? Because the kids miss it? And
then I just get the points going to get dirty.

Speaker 9 (45:00):
Oh that's exactly what happens. And I've got the stupid
light colored trim inside as well. I don't even have
the black trim. I've got the beige one.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Where's your pride with it? There's nothing better though than
getting inside it. I don't like getting into a dirty car,
particularly anymore. I like getting inside a car that's been cleaned.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
The smell, yeah, but then when you throw your bloody
banana peel on the floor, now it feels the way dirty,
whereas there's already five other banana peels and an empty
milk bottle in there.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Yeah okay, but I think leave the empty milk bottle.
But I'm a big Belle Beth. That banana pil out
the window. For God's say, it's good. It's a bloody
banana pit. It's organic. It was like a leaf, I know, But.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
I'm on the Northwestern motivate, you know. It's not like
I'm throwing it into a bushfet high and it lands
on someone's If I've learned anything from Mario Karts, you
throw banana skin out the window, someone else is going
to spin out.

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