February 2, 2026 • 16 mins
Today on the pod the guys talk a little about Hyrox, and people cheating in the gym.
Then Rooda tells the guys a wee bit of a punishing story - why was he so obsessed with Doctor who as a child?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Daily bespoke content that you won't find on the radio
show The HURDARKI Breakfast Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome on to the podcast. Thanks, it's good to have
you with us. It's good to be here. Yeah, it's
real good to see you.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
It's good to be here. I'm looking forward together on
this boat with what's his face?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Blaa choo.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Sorry, just as I said that, I brought up my
Instagram feed and what do you think was the first
thing I saw on it?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Turkey? No?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Oh, sorry, Sweeny good, good guess.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
High rocks?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
High rocks?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Someone doing a high rocks?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You don't like the high rocks?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
No, No, don't like it? Oh, I don't like I
like it. No, I don't like the high rocks. I'm
not interested in the horrocks. Although my as we spoke
to my sister in law yesterday, she loves the rocks.
You're particularly good at it. She loves it. Yeah, but
it's definitely not for me. I don't want to watch it.
It just makes me feel tired, even though I want
(00:57):
to support my sister in law and I am and
my sister inare doing it. It's not a spectator sport.
I want to watch you.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Wish should stop. It's not a spectator sport. It's not
a sport. I would say, like you were saying yesterday,
the training, but what are they training for?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I just kind of feel like sometimes you check to
someone who goes to what's it called five?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, there's a BFT. That's another one.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
What's it?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, Liz Mills.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
They can't remember cross training, cross training CrossFit people with
If you'd said to them, could you just come and
help me move my house? Yeah, I'll be like na, Yeah,
so surely that is just the same. But you're actually
helping someone. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I think so too.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
When I read the list of things on it and
what you have to do, I think it doesn't sound
that hard. But then my brain goes, yeah, because you've
got a one kilometer run.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, it's eight k's running. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
And then you don't rest, and so you've got to
go as quick as you can and there's there is
zero rest in fact that you're using all these other
different parts of your body and meantime, Yeah, so you're
going a roebic and mini for.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
People like you, and a robe that's right, I is
it not I suppose though, basically just the same as
the Olympics. The Olympics were originally simulating. Wow maybe the
Greco Roman stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, it's all in the Olympics is all done in
the node.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
But that's just because they didn't they didn't have Nike.
Just no. But that was all simulating war, wasn't it,
strong Jevlins. It was putting a bit of shot. It
was wrestling people. Yeah, I think so running sprinting. That's
(02:47):
where the marathon came from as well.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
So I didn't have one hundred meters sand bag lunge,
then it didn't have a one hundred minut of sand
bag lunch. No, I don't know, stupid hate piece. You
can't convince me. I reckon if you had to graft,
like how useful and exercises versus how hard it is
is probably shit A six size.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
All the time. I think Burpe's is hard, and I
think it's quite good for you, that is it. Yeah,
because you got you got the stomach involved. It's got
lots of bits in it. Then you do a little
stupid little jump at the end.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I used to go to you forty five for a
little while.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
A couple of years.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
The older forty five you can probably probably should get
back into something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Was it good for you?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
It actually was really good for me.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
How many people did you fall in love with when
you're there at the at the forty five?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
None? None, because I was married, so I wouldn't have
fallen in love with anyone at forty five, thought cheating. No, no, no,
I didn't. I know.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I think you can fall in love with people without cheating.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
You can check without falling in love as well.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yep, that's what everything's possible.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
How do you think he got to twelve?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
They used to do this annoying thing where if it
was your birthday then they'd find you. No allowed, not
a if forty five men free cheap, not a forty five,
and we skate.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I can't talk about whisk. I can't talk about any
other forty five because I've never experienced them. But their
community at the mall if forty five, and it's very
close to them all. Actually it's really close to the
weirs that there. What they do is they find you
on your birthday and public and there was a rule
that they'd like, it's your birthday and you have to
do as many boopies as.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Year as you were. Oh so that's not in Parlam.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Why would that be? Why is that good? First mate,
you stop going.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
First of all, who's going to the gym on their birthday?
That's that's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Some people that like to do a forty five like
to show in public just how strong and fit they are.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And they're like, oh, you got me, I better do
at least people doing.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It forty five. Now it has fallen, by the way.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Has taken over it. I'll take it off. The pub
did a thing as some of the thing where they
gave you thirty five beers for your birthday. Because I
tried it out last Friday.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I suspect when I look at high Rocks, when I
look at CrossFit, I think back injuries. Yeah, potential back injuries.
There's still a lot of pushing and a lot of
shoving and a lot of bending. It's the wrong way
with heavy weights.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
It's a lot of shirt off sort of stuff. It's
a lot of shirt off. It's a lot of well there,
it is hot in there. It's It's what I think
it really is is an opportunity to celebrate yourself. It
seems to be like, work out real hard, get in
sick shape, and oh you want people to take photos
(05:36):
of you with your shirt off in front of thousands
of people. Here's your But you don't play a sport
that anyone would give a fuck the watch. Here's your opportunity. Yep,
I think that's.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
What it is. Yeah, well it's it's the superstars, isn't it.
That's the whole idea?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, well rock stars, yeah, rock stars? You are you
are a rocks. Can you catch a ball? No? Will
anyone even pay for a ticket to see you play
a sport? No, but here's your opportunity.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
And well, look your shirt off in these photos you're
posting with really good light.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
That's right. What is the that's the other part of it.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Listening from the suite?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
And what's the point of being in such sick shape
if you can't post it on to social media. But
if you just took a photo of yourself and posted
it on social media, people might think you're awaking. But
we create this event. Now you're celebrating yourself achieving something.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I don't think anyone even thinks anyone's awake if for
putting a photo themselves anymore? Like back in the day,
the idea of a selfie, like you taking a photo
of yourself was about the most embarrassing thing. No one
took a selfie into camera phones.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Na, I'm just imagining, because obviously they do these things
and laps. I'm imagining someone getting confused and doing a
run it straight at someone. That's that should be.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
One of the events, gotcha, that should be one of
the events. Is you run a kilometer and then you
do a run it straight and then bull rush, run
another kilometer, one round of bring, run another kilometer, have
six with someone, have sex with ruder, then run another
(07:07):
kilometer and take your shirt off, take a bunch of photos,
run another kilometer.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Move this couch upper flood of stears.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
But on that thing, the thing that worries me is
that they run away after they have six with me,
like I do something wrong?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
That's right? Is that worried us to that sort of
been You must be used to that by now.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Sure you expected at that point. Surely you don't get
to twelve without them running away just thinking.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
You know, the term selfie, and originally that was derogatory.
It was a yeah, it's a selfie. It's like it
was embarrassing. It's like you're taking a selfie? Are you?
And now it's just a total normal thing, take a
SELFI that word is not doratory at all.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
No, I still find it. I still consider it a slur.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Selfie.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, you can take Selfieah, you were going.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
To talk about something ruder. Oh that's right. Books, second
in books.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Okay, we'll have a break and then I'll tell you
my story about the Second End Bookshop. And I want
to see if that is more evidence that we live
in a simulation?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Do you fall in love with it? Close?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Jerremy Wells and Mania Stuart find them on Instagram at
Kadaki Breakfast. Jerry and Manaia joined the conflict the Hodaki
Breakfast discussion group on Facebook for.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
More so A few years ago, my wife and I
not a few years ago, actually it was only a
better year ago. My wife and I went to Ragland,
not Regland. Went to Ragland.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
My kids call it Regland. Well, my daughter calls it Regland.
Some calls it Regland. Do they call Cleveton Cleveland? Do
they maybe they call Alexandra Alexandria.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Do they call hemmer Hemna?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
It should be called Hemnah yeah, right, the whole we're
having the inn and the that's annoying.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
No, that's racist. Now do they call it if post.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
That one trying funds at point of sale?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Do they call it nick flicks?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
No one does it?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Do you call it a toast and sandwich?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Do they think macaroni cheese? Macaroni and cheese is from
a place called Macaronia and it's Macaronian macaroniese.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
So you went to a second nd bookshop?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Yeah, we went to a second end bookshop in regular.
Actually I should give you a bit more background so
it may not surprise you that, being a Christian boy
and a real fucking virgin as a child, I was
into this TV show.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I thought you were the twelfth time mate.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I'm I was also a virgin as a child.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Not just a virgin, but just a fucking points to
a fucking virgin. We all, well, yeah, we look, we
were virgins, but we weren't just fucking virgins.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
We went fucking virgins.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
So okay, I was a fucking loser, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I was a loser.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
I was a nerd. I was a geek as a
child with acney was acne and I loved the television
program Doctor Who. Loved it.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I enjoyed doing yourself any favors if you lose your
virginity watching.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I enjoyed it a lot as a child, and I
collected about one hundred and seventy of the Doctor Who
novels as a child, and that's what I would do
in my bedrooms. I would read those novels. Anyway, that's
a pretty picture here, that's the background of the story.
And because I was so deep into the Doctor Who thing,
what I would do is I would because as you
guys know, many different men have played the role of
(10:33):
Doctor Who. And I would go into my little Doctor
Who books as a young nine or ten year old boy,
and I would write who starred as the doctor in
these particular books anyway, oh on the TV shows? On
the TV shows, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Because obviously it's the same person on the book.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
And then by the time I got into my and
then I left all of those books with my parents
and they were in storage. And then one day they
were like, you got to get rid of these things
because they had just taken up room and our addict.
And so I grabbed about three boxes of the shit
and I just checked them all and trade Me, and
I think I got about one hundred bucks for them.
And this was in twenty ten. And then I went
(11:10):
through life every now and again I want I wonder
what happened to those books?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
You missed them? Did you?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I get because you were talking before about how your
parents held on to things like school uniforms, and sometimes
it is nice to go back and just reflect on
the things. And I know that you said things along
the lines Jerry, like when are you going to need this?
But sometimes it's just nice to reflect and have a
little bit of nostalgia in your life. And so I
would wonder what happened to these books? And I went
(11:38):
to the book shop in Ragland, so this would have
been fifteen years after I sold them on and lo
and behold in the corner there were some doctor who books.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
One of them.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Can I just ask where did you sell? Which region?
Did you sell these?
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Auckland? Auckland to a lady who wanted to buy them
because she commuted on a train and she enjoyed reading
the book. So she bought this online on trade me. Yeah, so,
but she could have just googled the books. I suppose. Wow,
twenty ten and as luck would have it. I looked
at these books and I used to sellotape up the spines.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Oh my god, you were a nerd.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I used to sell it, tape up the spines the child,
so the sun, so the sun didn't damage.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Wow, you love these books to news.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
But unfortunately I wasn't surprised you to learn that my
family bought cheap cellotape. And so the selotape, we're not
crusty on it anyway. And so I walked into this
bookshop and regland with my wife, and I said, it's
this sellotape on those Doctor Who books at the back
of this And I opened up the Doctor Her books,
and sure enough, my writing from when I was a
kid shit in the Doctor Her books. And I was like,
(12:49):
I know, it's weird, crazy, I know it's weird, missus ruder,
and I know we're on a romantic weekend, but I'm
buying these books and I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Taking them any more action for their whole No, we
got it. We We've got a bath.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Wait, you brought a bath.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I shouldn't have brought that up.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, So you knew what was in there.
I knew you still opened it.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
It was part of the Airbnb. But anyway, I took
them up to the counter and the lady was like,
that is a great story. You just you take the books.
You do not need to pay for love nor mother.
You get these the funk out of my shop, isn't
it crazy? That is crazy?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
That is amazing, crazy, amazing.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
And so you've got them.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I've got them at home.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
There's only a certain amount of Doctor Who Box out there,
and so the simulation can't really come up with more
books because there's no one out there that's ever wanted
to read those Doctor Who Box other than you.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
It's like, I know, I know, it's sad, I get it,
fucking virgin.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Well not now, what was your favorite Doctor Who?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Patrick Troughton from the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Oh, the blonde the gray haired guy.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Nah, that was William Hartnell. Predrick Trodden was the second one.
And he had like this bob like a Beatles cut.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I know, the one you don't know, the trout man.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I know the trout I don't, But now that you've
mentioned the guy, I know that I know that particular
version of Doctor Who you didn't like, the one from
the eighties, the blonde, heed kind of guy, the sandy head.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Dude, Peter Davidson. Yeah, apparently real fucking sleeves. I know
someone that used to be on a TV show with him,
and she was a bit younger and he was a
bit older, and he would not leave me alone.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Really, poor Sally favorite Darlk.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Were there different ones?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Probably the one from the show nineteen eighty eight, the
Resurrection of the Daleks. Probably that one was pretty interesting dark.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Oh crap, you didn't go on Mastermind? Doctor who wasn't
your specialist topic? Because I remember there was definitely someone
on Mastermind who's specialist subject? Your specialist subject is doctor who?
You have one minute to answer as many questions as
you can and your time starts now. Who was the
(15:10):
that was?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Probably there was probably a guy called John Priedle who
was a member of the New Zealand Doctor Who fan club,
as was.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Then met up?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
N't I didn't have any meet ups. I was living
in WA. We didn't have any other leaders.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I wrote a couple of leaders in the Old to
the Old TSVA.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Wow, sick sixy.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Talk about six?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Does that sound like a keasy story?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I think this is even not even six enough for
one of Kesey's stories.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
You know what? This is what happens when people can
plain online that our podcast are only eight minute song?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Can I just one other thing that we did an
address on the radio show. Yeah, we're launching this wellness retreat,
the Gereman Wellness Retreat. There's a certain person that gets
so fucking triggered by us talking about taking a holiday. Yeah,
and they text through things like fella's shut the fuck up,
(16:19):
or you guys have got soft hands? Or is Ruda
the only one on Hierarchy Breakfast who doesn't incessantly complain
about elitist issues like having to work? And so tomorrow
when we start putting people in the drawer for that,
we're going to ring those people.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
We've got a place for you.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
You want to come with us on a trip darsy,
all expenses paid personal. You only can't well you can't, yeah,
because we read your text.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, we're going to have to do a year jealousy
ultimately we yeah, all right, it's us. Because it's just
gone ten o'clock.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome on to the podcast. Thanks, it's good to have
you with us. It's good to be here. Yeah, it's
real good to see you.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
It's good to be here. I'm looking forward together on
this boat with what's his face?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Blaa choo.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Sorry, just as I said that, I brought up my
Instagram feed and what do you think was the first
thing I saw on it?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Turkey? No?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Oh, sorry, Sweeny good, good guess.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
High rocks?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
High rocks?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Someone doing a high rocks?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You don't like the high rocks?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
No, No, don't like it? Oh, I don't like I
like it. No, I don't like the high rocks. I'm
not interested in the horrocks. Although my as we spoke
to my sister in law yesterday, she loves the rocks.
You're particularly good at it. She loves it. Yeah, but
it's definitely not for me. I don't want to watch it.
It just makes me feel tired, even though I want
(00:57):
to support my sister in law and I am and
my sister inare doing it. It's not a spectator sport.
I want to watch you.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Wish should stop. It's not a spectator sport. It's not
a sport. I would say, like you were saying yesterday,
the training, but what are they training for?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I just kind of feel like sometimes you check to
someone who goes to what's it called five?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, there's a BFT. That's another one.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
What's it?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, Liz Mills.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
They can't remember cross training, cross training CrossFit people with
If you'd said to them, could you just come and
help me move my house? Yeah, I'll be like na, Yeah,
so surely that is just the same. But you're actually
helping someone. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I think so too.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
When I read the list of things on it and
what you have to do, I think it doesn't sound
that hard. But then my brain goes, yeah, because you've
got a one kilometer run.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, it's eight k's running. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
And then you don't rest, and so you've got to
go as quick as you can and there's there is
zero rest in fact that you're using all these other
different parts of your body and meantime, Yeah, so you're
going a roebic and mini for.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
People like you, and a robe that's right, I is
it not I suppose though, basically just the same as
the Olympics. The Olympics were originally simulating. Wow maybe the
Greco Roman stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, it's all in the Olympics is all done in
the node.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
But that's just because they didn't they didn't have Nike.
Just no. But that was all simulating war, wasn't it,
strong Jevlins. It was putting a bit of shot. It
was wrestling people. Yeah, I think so running sprinting. That's
(02:47):
where the marathon came from as well.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
So I didn't have one hundred meters sand bag lunge,
then it didn't have a one hundred minut of sand
bag lunch. No, I don't know, stupid hate piece. You
can't convince me. I reckon if you had to graft,
like how useful and exercises versus how hard it is
is probably shit A six size.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
All the time. I think Burpe's is hard, and I
think it's quite good for you, that is it. Yeah,
because you got you got the stomach involved. It's got
lots of bits in it. Then you do a little
stupid little jump at the end.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I used to go to you forty five for a
little while.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
A couple of years.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
The older forty five you can probably probably should get
back into something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Was it good for you?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
It actually was really good for me.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
How many people did you fall in love with when
you're there at the at the forty five?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
None? None, because I was married, so I wouldn't have
fallen in love with anyone at forty five, thought cheating. No, no, no,
I didn't. I know.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I think you can fall in love with people without cheating.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
You can check without falling in love as well.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yep, that's what everything's possible.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
How do you think he got to twelve?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
They used to do this annoying thing where if it
was your birthday then they'd find you. No allowed, not
a if forty five men free cheap, not a forty five,
and we skate.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I can't talk about whisk. I can't talk about any
other forty five because I've never experienced them. But their
community at the mall if forty five, and it's very
close to them all. Actually it's really close to the
weirs that there. What they do is they find you
on your birthday and public and there was a rule
that they'd like, it's your birthday and you have to
do as many boopies as.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Year as you were. Oh so that's not in Parlam.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Why would that be? Why is that good? First mate,
you stop going.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
First of all, who's going to the gym on their birthday?
That's that's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Some people that like to do a forty five like
to show in public just how strong and fit they are.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And they're like, oh, you got me, I better do
at least people doing.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It forty five. Now it has fallen, by the way.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Has taken over it. I'll take it off. The pub
did a thing as some of the thing where they
gave you thirty five beers for your birthday. Because I
tried it out last Friday.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I suspect when I look at high Rocks, when I
look at CrossFit, I think back injuries. Yeah, potential back injuries.
There's still a lot of pushing and a lot of
shoving and a lot of bending. It's the wrong way
with heavy weights.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
It's a lot of shirt off sort of stuff. It's
a lot of shirt off. It's a lot of well there,
it is hot in there. It's It's what I think
it really is is an opportunity to celebrate yourself. It
seems to be like, work out real hard, get in
sick shape, and oh you want people to take photos
(05:36):
of you with your shirt off in front of thousands
of people. Here's your But you don't play a sport
that anyone would give a fuck the watch. Here's your opportunity. Yep,
I think that's.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
What it is. Yeah, well it's it's the superstars, isn't it.
That's the whole idea?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, well rock stars, yeah, rock stars? You are you
are a rocks. Can you catch a ball? No? Will
anyone even pay for a ticket to see you play
a sport? No, but here's your opportunity.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
And well, look your shirt off in these photos you're
posting with really good light.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
That's right. What is the that's the other part of it.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Listening from the suite?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
And what's the point of being in such sick shape
if you can't post it on to social media. But
if you just took a photo of yourself and posted
it on social media, people might think you're awaking. But
we create this event. Now you're celebrating yourself achieving something.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I don't think anyone even thinks anyone's awake if for
putting a photo themselves anymore? Like back in the day,
the idea of a selfie, like you taking a photo
of yourself was about the most embarrassing thing. No one
took a selfie into camera phones.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Na, I'm just imagining, because obviously they do these things
and laps. I'm imagining someone getting confused and doing a
run it straight at someone. That's that should be.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
One of the events, gotcha, that should be one of
the events. Is you run a kilometer and then you
do a run it straight and then bull rush, run
another kilometer, one round of bring, run another kilometer, have
six with someone, have sex with ruder, then run another
(07:07):
kilometer and take your shirt off, take a bunch of photos,
run another kilometer.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Move this couch upper flood of stears.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
But on that thing, the thing that worries me is
that they run away after they have six with me,
like I do something wrong?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
That's right? Is that worried us to that sort of
been You must be used to that by now.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Sure you expected at that point. Surely you don't get
to twelve without them running away just thinking.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
You know, the term selfie, and originally that was derogatory.
It was a yeah, it's a selfie. It's like it
was embarrassing. It's like you're taking a selfie? Are you?
And now it's just a total normal thing, take a
SELFI that word is not doratory at all.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
No, I still find it. I still consider it a slur.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Selfie.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, you can take Selfieah, you were going.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
To talk about something ruder. Oh that's right. Books, second
in books.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Okay, we'll have a break and then I'll tell you
my story about the Second End Bookshop. And I want
to see if that is more evidence that we live
in a simulation?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Do you fall in love with it? Close?
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Jerremy Wells and Mania Stuart find them on Instagram at
Kadaki Breakfast. Jerry and Manaia joined the conflict the Hodaki
Breakfast discussion group on Facebook for.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
More so A few years ago, my wife and I
not a few years ago, actually it was only a
better year ago. My wife and I went to Ragland,
not Regland. Went to Ragland.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
My kids call it Regland. Well, my daughter calls it Regland.
Some calls it Regland. Do they call Cleveton Cleveland? Do
they maybe they call Alexandra Alexandria.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Do they call hemmer Hemna?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
It should be called Hemnah yeah, right, the whole we're
having the inn and the that's annoying.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
No, that's racist. Now do they call it if post.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
That one trying funds at point of sale?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Do they call it nick flicks?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
No one does it?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Do you call it a toast and sandwich?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Do they think macaroni cheese? Macaroni and cheese is from
a place called Macaronia and it's Macaronian macaroniese.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
So you went to a second nd bookshop?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Yeah, we went to a second end bookshop in regular.
Actually I should give you a bit more background so
it may not surprise you that, being a Christian boy
and a real fucking virgin as a child, I was
into this TV show.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I thought you were the twelfth time mate.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I'm I was also a virgin as a child.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Not just a virgin, but just a fucking points to
a fucking virgin. We all, well, yeah, we look, we
were virgins, but we weren't just fucking virgins.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
We went fucking virgins.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
So okay, I was a fucking loser, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I was a loser.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
I was a nerd. I was a geek as a
child with acney was acne and I loved the television
program Doctor Who. Loved it.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I enjoyed doing yourself any favors if you lose your
virginity watching.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
I enjoyed it a lot as a child, and I
collected about one hundred and seventy of the Doctor Who
novels as a child, and that's what I would do
in my bedrooms. I would read those novels. Anyway, that's
a pretty picture here, that's the background of the story.
And because I was so deep into the Doctor Who thing,
what I would do is I would because as you
guys know, many different men have played the role of
(10:33):
Doctor Who. And I would go into my little Doctor
Who books as a young nine or ten year old boy,
and I would write who starred as the doctor in
these particular books anyway, oh on the TV shows? On
the TV shows, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Because obviously it's the same person on the book.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
And then by the time I got into my and
then I left all of those books with my parents
and they were in storage. And then one day they
were like, you got to get rid of these things
because they had just taken up room and our addict.
And so I grabbed about three boxes of the shit
and I just checked them all and trade Me, and
I think I got about one hundred bucks for them.
And this was in twenty ten. And then I went
(11:10):
through life every now and again I want I wonder
what happened to those books?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
You missed them? Did you?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I get because you were talking before about how your
parents held on to things like school uniforms, and sometimes
it is nice to go back and just reflect on
the things. And I know that you said things along
the lines Jerry, like when are you going to need this?
But sometimes it's just nice to reflect and have a
little bit of nostalgia in your life. And so I
would wonder what happened to these books? And I went
(11:38):
to the book shop in Ragland, so this would have
been fifteen years after I sold them on and lo
and behold in the corner there were some doctor who books.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
One of them.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Can I just ask where did you sell? Which region?
Did you sell these?
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Auckland? Auckland to a lady who wanted to buy them
because she commuted on a train and she enjoyed reading
the book. So she bought this online on trade me. Yeah, so,
but she could have just googled the books. I suppose. Wow,
twenty ten and as luck would have it. I looked
at these books and I used to sellotape up the spines.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Oh my god, you were a nerd.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I used to sell it, tape up the spines the child,
so the sun, so the sun didn't damage.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Wow, you love these books to news.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
But unfortunately I wasn't surprised you to learn that my
family bought cheap cellotape. And so the selotape, we're not
crusty on it anyway. And so I walked into this
bookshop and regland with my wife, and I said, it's
this sellotape on those Doctor Who books at the back
of this And I opened up the Doctor Her books,
and sure enough, my writing from when I was a
kid shit in the Doctor Her books. And I was like,
(12:49):
I know, it's weird, crazy, I know it's weird, missus ruder,
and I know we're on a romantic weekend, but I'm
buying these books and I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Taking them any more action for their whole No, we
got it. We We've got a bath.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Wait, you brought a bath.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I shouldn't have brought that up.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, So you knew what was in there.
I knew you still opened it.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
It was part of the Airbnb. But anyway, I took
them up to the counter and the lady was like,
that is a great story. You just you take the books.
You do not need to pay for love nor mother.
You get these the funk out of my shop, isn't
it crazy? That is crazy?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
That is amazing, crazy, amazing.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
And so you've got them.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I've got them at home.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
There's only a certain amount of Doctor Who Box out there,
and so the simulation can't really come up with more
books because there's no one out there that's ever wanted
to read those Doctor Who Box other than you.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
It's like, I know, I know, it's sad, I get it,
fucking virgin.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Well not now, what was your favorite Doctor Who?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Patrick Troughton from the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Oh, the blonde the gray haired guy.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Nah, that was William Hartnell. Predrick Trodden was the second one.
And he had like this bob like a Beatles cut.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I know, the one you don't know, the trout man.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I know the trout I don't, But now that you've
mentioned the guy, I know that I know that particular
version of Doctor Who you didn't like, the one from
the eighties, the blonde, heed kind of guy, the sandy head.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Dude, Peter Davidson. Yeah, apparently real fucking sleeves. I know
someone that used to be on a TV show with him,
and she was a bit younger and he was a
bit older, and he would not leave me alone.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Really, poor Sally favorite Darlk.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Were there different ones?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Probably the one from the show nineteen eighty eight, the
Resurrection of the Daleks. Probably that one was pretty interesting dark.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Oh crap, you didn't go on Mastermind? Doctor who wasn't
your specialist topic? Because I remember there was definitely someone
on Mastermind who's specialist subject? Your specialist subject is doctor who?
You have one minute to answer as many questions as
you can and your time starts now. Who was the
(15:10):
that was?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Probably there was probably a guy called John Priedle who
was a member of the New Zealand Doctor Who fan club,
as was.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Then met up?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
N't I didn't have any meet ups. I was living
in WA. We didn't have any other leaders.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I wrote a couple of leaders in the Old to
the Old TSVA.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Wow, sick sixy.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Talk about six?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Does that sound like a keasy story?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I think this is even not even six enough for
one of Kesey's stories.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
You know what? This is what happens when people can
plain online that our podcast are only eight minute song?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Can I just one other thing that we did an
address on the radio show. Yeah, we're launching this wellness retreat,
the Gereman Wellness Retreat. There's a certain person that gets
so fucking triggered by us talking about taking a holiday. Yeah,
and they text through things like fella's shut the fuck up,
(16:19):
or you guys have got soft hands? Or is Ruda
the only one on Hierarchy Breakfast who doesn't incessantly complain
about elitist issues like having to work? And so tomorrow
when we start putting people in the drawer for that,
we're going to ring those people.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
We've got a place for you.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
You want to come with us on a trip darsy,
all expenses paid personal. You only can't well you can't, yeah,
because we read your text.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, we're going to have to do a year jealousy
ultimately we yeah, all right, it's us. Because it's just
gone ten o'clock.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Jerry and Manaiah, we hate the radio show from six
till ten weekdays, The Hidarchy Breakfast
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