February 25, 2026 • 17 mins
Today on the podcast the guys talk to Sophie Saemrow from Conscious Flow Breathwork in Byron Bay.
Jerry visited Byron Bay around 18 months ago, and has been talking about his breath workshop since... it's time to find out what it was all about.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Daily uspoke content that you won't find on the radio
show The HURDARKI Breakfast Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
So we're heading over to Byron Bay and a couple
of weeks time for a wellness retreat. Man, it's really
sneaking up, it is. And last time I was over
in Byron Bay, I was treated to a breath workshop. Now,
I was skeptical about breath work. I didn't really know
anything about it, but I thought, that doesn't sound like
(00:26):
something that I'll be interested in doing, because I don't
generally like group activities like that. I don't like group exercise. No,
I like playing team sports. Yeah, I'm not a yoga guy.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
No.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
But I went along and to the lovely Sophie in
the hinterlands of Byron Bay. We went to her I
think as her house. It was in in the middle
of beautiful bush and what happened was quite remarkable and
Sophie joins us, Now get a Sophie good money. How
(01:02):
are you going, Sophie, I we, I was just saying
before too, Mania, I was skeptical about breath workshops because
I don't like the word workshop. Particularly, to be honest,
it seems like work. But you know why, I went
along and I had quite the experience amazing.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Well, normally the skepticism comes more to do with the breathing.
It's like, why am I going to breathing workshop. I'm
breathing all day long? What's the points?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Look, I'll be completely honest, Sophie, that is exactly my
thought process. I breathe all day every day, and I'm like,
how many different ways are there to breathe and how
much difference could that possibly make?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yes, well, you'd be surprised. That's the magic of it.
There's actually so many different types of breath work, and
surprisingly so many people. You know, yes, we're breathing all
day long, you know whether to consciously or unconsciously, it happens.
But so many people actually breathe in a way that
is not great for them, not ideal, for example, breathing shallow,
(02:10):
breathing in their chest, and it can really impact your health.
So the moment we learn how to breathe properly to
begin with, and or use different types of breathwork practices,
we can really enhance our health in profound ways.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Sophie, When did you find out about the power of
breath work?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Actually, I spent about eight months in India about twelve
years ago, and I got to buy chance a beautiful
synchronicity be a part of one of the Dala Lama's teachings,
which really opened my world to Buddhism and meditation and
different breathing practices. So ever since then, I've been well,
(02:53):
I'm going to say, healthily obsessed.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, breathing everyday sense?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Sorry, yeah, how does it all work? So we're going
to come along to one of your breath workshops. So
for people who haven't done it before and who are
a little bit either skeptical like mania, or I just
don't know what it is yeah, or a naive to
what goes on, or are a little bit afraid perhaps
of maybe hyper ventilating and passing out, just run through
(03:23):
what happens.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Yes, I would love to.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
First of all, my approach is definitely on the more
gentle side. There's many different types of breathwork as I
just mentioned, and some of them are quite intense and
very much looking for a cathartic release.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
I'm not about that.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
For me. It's all about a gentle, feminine approach so
our nervous system can be super relaxed, downregulated. So really
we can move from a Paris sorry for us, from
a sympathetic nervous system response, which is a stress response
a fight or flight into Paris, and esthetic nervous system response,
which is rest and digest. And you know, I believe
(04:05):
that the real pandemic we've been experiencing worldwide is one
of stress, people being constantly stressed out. And when we
are stressed, what happens is our body can't repair. So
when we are in survival mode, our body is just
focusing on surviving basically, and so our body can't recover.
And these breath were practices that I'm sharing, they have
(04:28):
many different health benefits, especially if you practice regularly.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
So it's a little bit like going to the gym.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
If you go to the gym once, you're not going
to work out with a six pack.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
I've tried, it don't work.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
And similar with breathwork and meditation, the more regularly you practice,
the more evil feel the benefits. So before people come
and join my classes, I always like to give a
little introduction and I'm normally sharing exactly what I'm about
to share with you now so that they can really
ease their mind, they feel comfortable, they can you know,
they know what to expect, they know what's going they
(05:00):
can ask questions. So that's that's the number one to
make sure that anyone who was feeling maybe a little
bit nervous can you know.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Have a ease more ease in their body and mind.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
And so breath work, especially when practice regularly, and I'm
talking more about the gentle practices I'm sharing, can improve
your heart rate and your heart rate viability. So therefore
it can actually improve like strengthen your heart so it
lowers the risk of heart related diseases. So for me,
that's a really good reason to practice regularly. You know,
(05:31):
if not that's enough reason to practice regularly, then it
can lower your cholesterol, it can lower your inflammation, it
can improve your sleep. It can help reduce stress as
well as help you to handle stress better. So you know,
it's let's say, it's inevitable that the stressful situations will
arise in all of our lives, but how do we
(05:52):
ideally respond rather than react? Now, our breath can really
help us with that. We can help regulate our nervous system.
As I mentioned before, we can go from that stress
response into arrest and digest response. Breathwork can really help
us to get to know our emotions better and to
work with our sauma. So breathwork has truly changed my life.
(06:15):
Like breathwork, meditation, and plant medicines, hands down are the
three things that have changed my life to most, other
than the beautiful people in my life that call me
up on my.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Bullshit, which we all need to have those.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Very important Sophie, as part of sorry, as part of
a person who's been part of one of these experiences.
At the end of our one, and I don't know
if you remember our You do, obviously do millions of
different groupes. But at the end of ours, everybody was crying.
Now is that a common response to breathing in? And
(06:50):
what is that?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And b Well, first of all, of course I remember
your group. You were meant to be ten people and
you walked up with nineteen people. Yes, So what happens
is that we emotions Okay, looking at our emotions, emotions
are energies emotion Now most of us have become very
(07:16):
creative at avoiding our emotions, most likely because we didn't
get an education around how to feel our emotions when
we were little, Maybe because our parents didn't really know
how to feel their own emotions.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
But feeling truly is healing.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
And so when we're actually slowing down and starting to
bring awareness to our body, to the energies flowing through
our body and allowing our body to communicate with us,
to pay attention to what the body has to say,
because our body is always.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Communicating with us.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Every little niggle, every little pain, every little symptom most
likely is on our unprocessed emotions or energy is stuck
in the body. So with the power of our breath,
what we're doing is moving a lot of energy in
the body, and we can start shifting some of the
stugnant energy, stugnant emotions, and they can start surfacing. We
(08:05):
can allow ourselves to feel them, and therefore feeling means
healing and to travel through us to make space fast
to come back to our base state. So I really
believe that there is no such thing as a negative emotion.
All emotions are phenomenal teachers. All emotions are simply energy
is flowing through us showing us where maybe everything's going
(08:25):
really peachy in our lives, and or maybe we need
to look at something, you know, maybe a change needs
to be made, Maybe there is a boundary that we
need to set as well as our diaphragm, which is
the main breathing muscle, which is just beneath the lungs.
The way that I believe proper breathing is being done,
and what I like to teach in the workshops is
to really breathe with your dia from and the diaphragm
(08:48):
can hold a lot of stored emotions. So what can
happen is that we can start releasing some of those emotions.
And when we look at releasing stored emotions, that can
be something really exciting and enjoy is because we can
get really curious about the energy flowing through us. We
don't have to touch a story, we don't have to
get caught in the stories. And I believe in everyday life,
(09:11):
if we have the courage and find the tools the
practice is to be with our emotions, we can eliminate
so much suffering. For one, the mental loops that keep
us stuck oftentimes are the one thing that really creates
that's suffering. If we were to just pay attention to
the energy flowing through us can be super exciting. But
also if we don't process our emotions, if they stay
(09:34):
stuck in the body, they can start showing in the
physical body in the form of not just discomfort and pain,
but also serious illnesses, can ser tumors. So I really
believe that any physical symptoms we have, at least ninety
five percent of them is stuck emotions in the body,
and therefore we can heal ourselves.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I've got a few stuck emotions in my body at
the moment, I'm dealing with the cold. I like the
stress of working with Jeremy here. But as anything, is
there anything that can breathwork help Olivia add any symptoms
of things like a cold.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
A long term thing. Look, when you have a cold,
I actually just recommend resting, resting, sleeping, drinking a lot
of water and tea liquids, and I would probably just
do some really conscious diafraumatic breathing. So yes, in general,
conscious gentle breathing is going to help because it helps
(10:28):
regulate your nervous system, so it helps get your body
into a rest in digest mode so your body can
fully recover. Right, But in that moment, I wouldn't do
any you know, faster breathwork practices. I would literally focus
on gentle, deep belly breathing. Yeah, and to keep doing
that ideally all day long. That's ideally how we want
to be breathing all day long anyways, but many people don't.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
So if you don't, then you know the line that's okay.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
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Instagram at Kardarki Breakfast. Kirian and I are joined the
conflayt the hard Aki Breakfast discussion group on Facebook for more.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Sophie, I'm also looking here and you are involved in
psychedelic integration and preparation. Now, yes, that sounds very interesting
to me.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Yes, it sure does well.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Plant medicines, which as you probably know and the listeners
probably know, are definitely something that is on the rise
and helping awaken people in the way that they can
open your hearts, open your minds, and there's many different
plant medicines that you know are there to be worked with.
One advice I have for anybody and everybody who potentially
(11:42):
wants to work with plant medicines that you need to
do your research who you do that with, and that
you really want to be doing that with someone who
has the proper training and the lineage behind them and
they have the permissions from the indigenous medicine carriers to
share this medicine in a sacred ceremony, and basically what
happens with many of the plant medicines, they create a
(12:04):
profound neuroplasticity in our brains. And so that's why in
the following weeks after a plant medicine journey, we can
make changes in our lives that we might not have
been able to make with ten years of talking therapy
due to the insights we might have received in the
journeys which the medicines normally show us what is already there,
(12:26):
bringing to the conscious forefront, what is in the unconscious,
and they open a door for us to see what
could be, what can be, and we still need to
be the ones walking through it. The medicines turned to
that for us, and so the plant medicine integration is
very much around utilizing those four or five weeks of
neuroplasticity to make lasting changes in people's lives with different
(12:52):
practices like somatic practices, for example, breathworks in somatic practice.
Different practices that really get us into the body so
we can listen better to the Bible, the different journaling proms,
different meditations, so really to make the best of the
experience that we've had with the plans, to keep connecting
with the spirits of the plants.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
What about, Sophie, If I just liked taking the plants
because it's a good.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Time, well, look that that can be very dangerous, to
be honest with you, because what many people don't understand
is that some of these plants can open quite powerful
portals and as well as energetically leave you quite open.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
So if you take.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
These plants because you like to have a good time,
you want to be very careful of the set and setting.
You don't want to be around big groups of people.
You want to make sure that you know how to
protect yourself energetically, personally. Because I understand how powerful these
plans are, I really wouldn't recommend it. I would recommend
it with a very trained I wouldn't even call it
(13:54):
facilitated about medicine men or medicine woman who has been
given the permission, because what they do is they keep
safe energetically.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
So, for example, sporting events are probably be a bad
time to do that kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Yeah, not a great idea, that's what curious.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
For example, it's a really beautiful environment to be taking
or journeying with these plant medicines. Is you know, to
be able if you can go to the origins. For example,
every year we take a group to journey with the
Yamanaha tribe in Brazil. So we take a group of
clients from all around the world, mostly Australia, to into
(14:30):
the Amazon rainforest to meet the indigenous medicine carriers and
to sit with these plants, plant spirits, because they're intelligent spirits,
not just you know, something that you take and then
that's it. If you actively and consciously work with this
with the spirit and to really experience what it's like
to be in community and to have an authentic traditional ceremony,
(14:51):
you know, that's the ideal way.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Sophie. You must have met a lot of people over
the years, and then those situations where you're taking a
whole lot of people. I know you're nice person, so
you'll probably say no, but you haven't have any decides
that go with you and you think this person is
just a dickhead. I don't think they can be healed.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Look, I have to be honest, this work really attracts
absolutely phenomenal people.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
And I say it again and again.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
I was like, Oh my god, the beautiful people that
walk through my door is unbelievable. And before every workshop,
and you know, even every retreat, I'm always going in
with this like excitement.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Oh my god, who's going to be a new friend.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Okay, Oh that's just because you're you're too you're too nice.
I'm I'm, I mean, we take people away on trips
all the time. Maybe it's just something to do with
our listenership. But look over the years, ninety five percent,
it's no, no lovely, but you will encounter a diead.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Ew Look, I believe that people are away over that
in their in their journey and the processes, and if
someone acts like a dickhead, only hurt people. Hurt people, right,
So what's beneath it? What's been the surface? What's there
that needs to be looked at? And how can we
meet them with compassion? Because you know, I don't like
to make assumptions, but it's a really good assumption that
(16:08):
anyone you'll ever meet will have experienced some degree of
trauma in their lives. So there's a good chance that
there's you know, a trauma playing out that you know,
there is some unhealed wounds that are surfacing or they're
feeling triggered, you know, so can we look through the
lens of compassion. Look, I'm not saying I'm mastering that
every day, but that's the intention.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Sophie. We are going to be coming over and seeing
you in a couple of weeks. We really look forward
to it. I'm looking forward to introducing you to a
whole lot of people because I had a great experience.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I'm looking forward to having a crack is someone who
doesn't really understand what it's all about, and as we're
quite hard to bottle up a lot of my trauma
through life.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I'm looking forward to Sophie. Thanks for your time this morning,
and I look forward to seeing in a few weeks.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
I can't wait. Thank you so much for having me.
I hope you have a beautiful day.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
So we're heading over to Byron Bay and a couple
of weeks time for a wellness retreat. Man, it's really
sneaking up, it is. And last time I was over
in Byron Bay, I was treated to a breath workshop. Now,
I was skeptical about breath work. I didn't really know
anything about it, but I thought, that doesn't sound like
(00:26):
something that I'll be interested in doing, because I don't
generally like group activities like that. I don't like group exercise. No,
I like playing team sports. Yeah, I'm not a yoga guy.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
No.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
But I went along and to the lovely Sophie in
the hinterlands of Byron Bay. We went to her I
think as her house. It was in in the middle
of beautiful bush and what happened was quite remarkable and
Sophie joins us, Now get a Sophie good money. How
(01:02):
are you going, Sophie, I we, I was just saying
before too, Mania, I was skeptical about breath workshops because
I don't like the word workshop. Particularly, to be honest,
it seems like work. But you know why, I went
along and I had quite the experience amazing.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Well, normally the skepticism comes more to do with the breathing.
It's like, why am I going to breathing workshop. I'm
breathing all day long? What's the points?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Look, I'll be completely honest, Sophie, that is exactly my
thought process. I breathe all day every day, and I'm like,
how many different ways are there to breathe and how
much difference could that possibly make?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yes, well, you'd be surprised. That's the magic of it.
There's actually so many different types of breath work, and
surprisingly so many people. You know, yes, we're breathing all
day long, you know whether to consciously or unconsciously, it happens.
But so many people actually breathe in a way that
is not great for them, not ideal, for example, breathing shallow,
(02:10):
breathing in their chest, and it can really impact your health.
So the moment we learn how to breathe properly to
begin with, and or use different types of breathwork practices,
we can really enhance our health in profound ways.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Sophie, When did you find out about the power of
breath work?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Actually, I spent about eight months in India about twelve
years ago, and I got to buy chance a beautiful
synchronicity be a part of one of the Dala Lama's teachings,
which really opened my world to Buddhism and meditation and
different breathing practices. So ever since then, I've been well,
(02:53):
I'm going to say, healthily obsessed.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, breathing everyday sense?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Sorry, yeah, how does it all work? So we're going
to come along to one of your breath workshops. So
for people who haven't done it before and who are
a little bit either skeptical like mania, or I just
don't know what it is yeah, or a naive to
what goes on, or are a little bit afraid perhaps
of maybe hyper ventilating and passing out, just run through
(03:23):
what happens.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Yes, I would love to.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
First of all, my approach is definitely on the more
gentle side. There's many different types of breathwork as I
just mentioned, and some of them are quite intense and
very much looking for a cathartic release.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
I'm not about that.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
For me. It's all about a gentle, feminine approach so
our nervous system can be super relaxed, downregulated. So really
we can move from a Paris sorry for us, from
a sympathetic nervous system response, which is a stress response
a fight or flight into Paris, and esthetic nervous system response,
which is rest and digest. And you know, I believe
(04:05):
that the real pandemic we've been experiencing worldwide is one
of stress, people being constantly stressed out. And when we
are stressed, what happens is our body can't repair. So
when we are in survival mode, our body is just
focusing on surviving basically, and so our body can't recover.
And these breath were practices that I'm sharing, they have
(04:28):
many different health benefits, especially if you practice regularly.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
So it's a little bit like going to the gym.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
If you go to the gym once, you're not going
to work out with a six pack.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
I've tried, it don't work.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
And similar with breathwork and meditation, the more regularly you practice,
the more evil feel the benefits. So before people come
and join my classes, I always like to give a
little introduction and I'm normally sharing exactly what I'm about
to share with you now so that they can really
ease their mind, they feel comfortable, they can you know,
they know what to expect, they know what's going they
(05:00):
can ask questions. So that's that's the number one to
make sure that anyone who was feeling maybe a little
bit nervous can you know.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Have a ease more ease in their body and mind.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
And so breath work, especially when practice regularly, and I'm
talking more about the gentle practices I'm sharing, can improve
your heart rate and your heart rate viability. So therefore
it can actually improve like strengthen your heart so it
lowers the risk of heart related diseases. So for me,
that's a really good reason to practice regularly. You know,
(05:31):
if not that's enough reason to practice regularly, then it
can lower your cholesterol, it can lower your inflammation, it
can improve your sleep. It can help reduce stress as
well as help you to handle stress better. So you know,
it's let's say, it's inevitable that the stressful situations will
arise in all of our lives, but how do we
(05:52):
ideally respond rather than react? Now, our breath can really
help us with that. We can help regulate our nervous system.
As I mentioned before, we can go from that stress
response into arrest and digest response. Breathwork can really help
us to get to know our emotions better and to
work with our sauma. So breathwork has truly changed my life.
(06:15):
Like breathwork, meditation, and plant medicines, hands down are the
three things that have changed my life to most, other
than the beautiful people in my life that call me
up on my.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Bullshit, which we all need to have those.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Very important Sophie, as part of sorry, as part of
a person who's been part of one of these experiences.
At the end of our one, and I don't know
if you remember our You do, obviously do millions of
different groupes. But at the end of ours, everybody was crying.
Now is that a common response to breathing in? And
(06:50):
what is that?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And b Well, first of all, of course I remember
your group. You were meant to be ten people and
you walked up with nineteen people. Yes, So what happens
is that we emotions Okay, looking at our emotions, emotions
are energies emotion Now most of us have become very
(07:16):
creative at avoiding our emotions, most likely because we didn't
get an education around how to feel our emotions when
we were little, Maybe because our parents didn't really know
how to feel their own emotions.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
But feeling truly is healing.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
And so when we're actually slowing down and starting to
bring awareness to our body, to the energies flowing through
our body and allowing our body to communicate with us,
to pay attention to what the body has to say,
because our body is always.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Communicating with us.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Every little niggle, every little pain, every little symptom most
likely is on our unprocessed emotions or energy is stuck
in the body. So with the power of our breath,
what we're doing is moving a lot of energy in
the body, and we can start shifting some of the
stugnant energy, stugnant emotions, and they can start surfacing. We
(08:05):
can allow ourselves to feel them, and therefore feeling means
healing and to travel through us to make space fast
to come back to our base state. So I really
believe that there is no such thing as a negative emotion.
All emotions are phenomenal teachers. All emotions are simply energy
is flowing through us showing us where maybe everything's going
(08:25):
really peachy in our lives, and or maybe we need
to look at something, you know, maybe a change needs
to be made, Maybe there is a boundary that we
need to set as well as our diaphragm, which is
the main breathing muscle, which is just beneath the lungs.
The way that I believe proper breathing is being done,
and what I like to teach in the workshops is
to really breathe with your dia from and the diaphragm
(08:48):
can hold a lot of stored emotions. So what can
happen is that we can start releasing some of those emotions.
And when we look at releasing stored emotions, that can
be something really exciting and enjoy is because we can
get really curious about the energy flowing through us. We
don't have to touch a story, we don't have to
get caught in the stories. And I believe in everyday life,
(09:11):
if we have the courage and find the tools the
practice is to be with our emotions, we can eliminate
so much suffering. For one, the mental loops that keep
us stuck oftentimes are the one thing that really creates
that's suffering. If we were to just pay attention to
the energy flowing through us can be super exciting. But
also if we don't process our emotions, if they stay
(09:34):
stuck in the body, they can start showing in the
physical body in the form of not just discomfort and pain,
but also serious illnesses, can ser tumors. So I really
believe that any physical symptoms we have, at least ninety
five percent of them is stuck emotions in the body,
and therefore we can heal ourselves.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I've got a few stuck emotions in my body at
the moment, I'm dealing with the cold. I like the
stress of working with Jeremy here. But as anything, is
there anything that can breathwork help Olivia add any symptoms
of things like a cold.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
A long term thing. Look, when you have a cold,
I actually just recommend resting, resting, sleeping, drinking a lot
of water and tea liquids, and I would probably just
do some really conscious diafraumatic breathing. So yes, in general,
conscious gentle breathing is going to help because it helps
(10:28):
regulate your nervous system, so it helps get your body
into a rest in digest mode so your body can
fully recover. Right, But in that moment, I wouldn't do
any you know, faster breathwork practices. I would literally focus
on gentle, deep belly breathing. Yeah, and to keep doing
that ideally all day long. That's ideally how we want
to be breathing all day long anyways, but many people don't.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
So if you don't, then you know the line that's okay.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Share any wells and the naiast it find them on
Instagram at Kardarki Breakfast. Kirian and I are joined the
conflayt the hard Aki Breakfast discussion group on Facebook for more.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Sophie, I'm also looking here and you are involved in
psychedelic integration and preparation. Now, yes, that sounds very interesting
to me.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Yes, it sure does well.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Plant medicines, which as you probably know and the listeners
probably know, are definitely something that is on the rise
and helping awaken people in the way that they can
open your hearts, open your minds, and there's many different
plant medicines that you know are there to be worked with.
One advice I have for anybody and everybody who potentially
(11:42):
wants to work with plant medicines that you need to
do your research who you do that with, and that
you really want to be doing that with someone who
has the proper training and the lineage behind them and
they have the permissions from the indigenous medicine carriers to
share this medicine in a sacred ceremony, and basically what
happens with many of the plant medicines, they create a
(12:04):
profound neuroplasticity in our brains. And so that's why in
the following weeks after a plant medicine journey, we can
make changes in our lives that we might not have
been able to make with ten years of talking therapy
due to the insights we might have received in the
journeys which the medicines normally show us what is already there,
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bringing to the conscious forefront, what is in the unconscious,
and they open a door for us to see what
could be, what can be, and we still need to
be the ones walking through it. The medicines turned to
that for us, and so the plant medicine integration is
very much around utilizing those four or five weeks of
neuroplasticity to make lasting changes in people's lives with different
(12:52):
practices like somatic practices, for example, breathworks in somatic practice.
Different practices that really get us into the body so
we can listen better to the Bible, the different journaling proms,
different meditations, so really to make the best of the
experience that we've had with the plans, to keep connecting
with the spirits of the plants.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
What about, Sophie, If I just liked taking the plants
because it's a good.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Time, well, look that that can be very dangerous, to
be honest with you, because what many people don't understand
is that some of these plants can open quite powerful
portals and as well as energetically leave you quite open.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
So if you take.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
These plants because you like to have a good time,
you want to be very careful of the set and setting.
You don't want to be around big groups of people.
You want to make sure that you know how to
protect yourself energetically, personally. Because I understand how powerful these
plans are, I really wouldn't recommend it. I would recommend
it with a very trained I wouldn't even call it
(13:54):
facilitated about medicine men or medicine woman who has been
given the permission, because what they do is they keep
safe energetically.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
So, for example, sporting events are probably be a bad
time to do that kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Yeah, not a great idea, that's what curious.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
For example, it's a really beautiful environment to be taking
or journeying with these plant medicines. Is you know, to
be able if you can go to the origins. For example,
every year we take a group to journey with the
Yamanaha tribe in Brazil. So we take a group of
clients from all around the world, mostly Australia, to into
(14:30):
the Amazon rainforest to meet the indigenous medicine carriers and
to sit with these plants, plant spirits, because they're intelligent spirits,
not just you know, something that you take and then
that's it. If you actively and consciously work with this
with the spirit and to really experience what it's like
to be in community and to have an authentic traditional ceremony,
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you know, that's the ideal way.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Sophie. You must have met a lot of people over
the years, and then those situations where you're taking a
whole lot of people. I know you're nice person, so
you'll probably say no, but you haven't have any decides
that go with you and you think this person is
just a dickhead. I don't think they can be healed.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Look, I have to be honest, this work really attracts
absolutely phenomenal people.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
And I say it again and again.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
I was like, Oh my god, the beautiful people that
walk through my door is unbelievable. And before every workshop,
and you know, even every retreat, I'm always going in
with this like excitement.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Oh my god, who's going to be a new friend.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Okay, Oh that's just because you're you're too you're too nice.
I'm I'm, I mean, we take people away on trips
all the time. Maybe it's just something to do with
our listenership. But look over the years, ninety five percent,
it's no, no lovely, but you will encounter a diead.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Ew Look, I believe that people are away over that
in their in their journey and the processes, and if
someone acts like a dickhead, only hurt people. Hurt people, right,
So what's beneath it? What's been the surface? What's there
that needs to be looked at? And how can we
meet them with compassion? Because you know, I don't like
to make assumptions, but it's a really good assumption that
(16:08):
anyone you'll ever meet will have experienced some degree of
trauma in their lives. So there's a good chance that
there's you know, a trauma playing out that you know,
there is some unhealed wounds that are surfacing or they're
feeling triggered, you know, so can we look through the
lens of compassion. Look, I'm not saying I'm mastering that
every day, but that's the intention.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Sophie. We are going to be coming over and seeing
you in a couple of weeks. We really look forward
to it. I'm looking forward to introducing you to a
whole lot of people because I had a great experience.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I'm looking forward to having a crack is someone who
doesn't really understand what it's all about, and as we're
quite hard to bottle up a lot of my trauma
through life.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I'm looking forward to Sophie. Thanks for your time this morning,
and I look forward to seeing in a few weeks.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
I can't wait. Thank you so much for having me.
I hope you have a beautiful day.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
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