February 12, 2026 • 26 mins
Today the team get embroiled in another chat about Sir Richard Hadlee (but this one isn't their fault), and then delve deep into the many stages of relationship.
Who should pay the dowry?
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Daily bespoke content that you won't find on the radio
show The DARKI Breakfast podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
So no, no, no, it's right to start the podcast here
if you just go down to on the sheet there
podcast from the Conclave, Lee Sherwan has put in and
surely Jerry has one of these. Just want your live
reaction to that. What what do you think about that
there that you can see? Describe it for the listeners.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
It's a Sir Richard Haadley commemorative ball. It's a Handley
cricket ball, which were a terrible, terrible cricket balls. Actually,
I remember playing with a couple of years. They were
like rocks made in India. Yeah, and one of those
broke my bat. Yeah, shocking things. So they had like
a lacquer on the outside of them that used to
(00:44):
end up. It was almost like cellophane and racked and
kra can come away.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
And they were filled with concrete. Yeah, terrible. I go,
I'm going to fucking earl if bomb of the podcast.
I got a cock abart a beat for Christmas. One
year was about twelve or even twelve went down the
park got embroiled in like a park cricket situation. These
fellows that were playing there had brought this Headley ball.
One of them got the thickest edge, took a chunk
out of the side of my brand new bear.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I almost when I went and visited him at Pegasus
a couple of years ago, I almost bought it up.
It was like, mate, you were a fantastic cricketer, but
your range of cricket gear, your balls left a lot
to be desired. Considering that, if you're a true cricketing purist,
you should have been all over those balls and made
sure that they were essentially rebranded Koka barros or jerks
(01:31):
or something decent. Those things broke a lot of bats anyway,
And that's taking me back to that, to the to
the early nineties and those annoying balls. And also they
get a horrific bounce, like they bounce up on you shockingly.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Well because particularly off a artificial pitch, because you got
concrete on concrete, that's explosive.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, So that's what I'm looking at there.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I'm also looking.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
At this follow through a beautiful follow for it is
a picture of him. There's a ball Handley crooked ball
signed by Richard Hadley. There's a picture above that of
him and what you were described as a slightly religious
shaped window. It's like something you might see as either
a mosque or a Catholic tabernacle.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
He's also it's in the era of when they just
wore business shirts to play cricket. That was ridiculous, and
their boots were really bad for your knees.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I imagine they had actual leather soles with spikes and the
hard hardly the souls.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I remember my granddad had a pair of I don't
know if his boots or something, but they were out
in his garage. I used to look at these things
and how the funk that had them in Rugby boots. Yeah,
the Rugby boots, Oh my god, the Rugby bots for
next level. Yeah, leather with like wooden soles on them,
and then studs screwed into the wood and it was like,
how the fuck?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I know? I know, So that's what I'm looking at.
It's the Richard Harley, first baller to capture four hundred
Test works, that says, and then it's a commemorative and.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Then it's got all of his stats. So Test matches
eighty six, four hundred and thirty one wickets in an
average of twenty two thirty six five wickets in an
innx five wicket bags nine times ten wickets in a match.
That's pretty impressive.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, look at their first class record, jury, can you
can you make that out there? Three hundred and forty
two first class matches average eighteen Yeah, nearly fifteen hundred wickets.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, because that clothes obviously a lot of the county
matches that he played. He also played for South Australia
and Tasmania, which is crazy. And the Sheffield chillback in
the day, two hettricks, two hetricks and I like that.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I like that. It's got it's the names, it's got
the scalps down the side. Oh yeah, first wicket as Fickball,
one hundredth wicket Imraan kh two hundredth wicket Norman Cowans,
Alan Border was, the three hundred and four hundred was
Sanja menjer Car and the four hundred and thirty fist
and final wicket Devin Milk.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, world record, three sevent and fourth Test work, magic moments,
four hundred Test works and then the world record. Yeah,
great bowler, great New Zealander. And oh that's something I
want to ask the group. Have you seen that ad
will Sir Richard.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Haby on the toilet paper.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah, and he.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Says great, and the guy goes, great, New Zealander. He
says he's a great guy or something like that, and
he goes, no, he's a great New Zealander. It's a
really weird ad. It's for toilet paper.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Do we feel it's derivative for what we I mean,
it's always the thing when you hear something like that,
you think.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Derivative of what the Reckforce show? Yeah, yeah, I reckon.
I reckon it does I reckon?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
But I always feel about silly saying things like that.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Have you asked them?
Speaker 5 (04:46):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I haven't.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Actually did you text him yesterday for the anniversary of
his two hundred wicket?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
No, I've stopped. I feel about stink texting him.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I feel, well, didn't he stop texting you back?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Is that the problem?
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Yeah, because he started texting Stuart Broad Oh yeah, he did.
Shame Stuart Broad some essentially the same thing that I
asked him. In fact, I think I asked him a
better question than Stuart Brod. Mine was more based around the.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Skip compared to the the leg around that he used
to have in the early part of his career, and
then he moved to a little hot, little skip.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
The difference was Stuart Broad was actually going to do
something with that information.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Hey, excuse me me and I I used to have
a skip at the beginning of my run up, just
like Sir Richard Hardley. How many Test wickets did you take?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Five?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
How many times did you play against Australia and Australia
with a teenage mutant ninja tootle headband around your head?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Well, I wonder whether I even took four hundred wickets.
I don't think I probably did. I don't think you
did in my life.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Nah, what if you included the backyard? Yeah no, no,
that doesn't count. But if you did, would you hit
four hundred?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's going to be I once cheated it to this
this woman who was his son at my woman, not
that woman there, different woman was picking up her son
at one of my kid's skills, and she was she
was boring me with how many runs her son scored
in backyard cricket. I was like, okay, I must never
come to one of these child pick ups every again.
This is this is horrific. It is horrific.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, So Stuart Broad fifth most Test wickets even six
hundred and four.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Yes, he's ahead of Hardley.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Do you reckon Handley gets.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Well?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Broad fucked off? How do you play a memo of
the game, dear you, great.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Bowler to a left hander, very good bowler to left
hander is broad around the wicket and then and then
get a little bit of extra bounce and just just
straight and slightly. Yeah, devastating day, this tail up unplayable.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Eight for fifteen. He got once again Australia.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
But I used to cop a lot of abuse. This
is turned into a cricket podcast. Yeah, I have that.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Let's talk about cheating. You were gonna you're thinking about chedding?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, no, that's not trueman. I was not thinking about chanting.
What happened was we were discussing cheating, the idea of
international miss cheating international mistress.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Guys, what someone's gonna find out today that they are
mistress by being taken on a date. They're going to
be like, someone's gonna be like, you know what, I
won't see it tomorrow. I'm busy. Let's go out tonight
and celebrate thing day Valentine's Day. And then that's how
that person's going to find out. I'm a side piss.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I want to know more, and you guys, can we
get Zoie involved in this because I think she's going
to know more about this because she's closer to the age. Zoe,
can you come in for a second because you might
be able to help us in this realm.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
She always looks very suspicious when she's asked to come
into the studio, especially for the podcast.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
You about just in terms of the dating scene, and
I know you're not you're you have a partner, but
she doesn't cheat, she's got she's got a partner, so
you're you're tied up. But how does it work in
terms of dating? Like do you have to say to
someone now ex we are excluded? Do you actually use
(07:55):
those words? Like who says it? How does it work?
What is there any framework around? How does it all work?
Speaker 5 (08:02):
It's a lot more like casual these days. I think
like it's very You sort of see each other and
then you don't really talk about what you are, who
you like, what's happening, and then after like a few
months or something, one of you guys will say, well,
are you seeing anyone else? Okay, are you going are
you seeing anyone else? No, I'm not. And then and
you go, oh, we should we just go exclusive?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Okay, because back in Jerry's day, you would be betrothed
to someone at the debutante ball, Yeah, wouldn't you, And
then the whole town would gather together.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And I think it was always assumed that if you
were going around, if you were having this is you know,
to put it bluntly, if you're having six with someone,
basically there was probably only one. If you're having sex
with multiple people during at once, then your dog ass.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
There's full dog.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Gars that was always considered pretty dog.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Is it still considered full dog as bro.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
No, if you don't put the label on it, right,
you know?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Okay, it's all.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
About though, what you say.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
You think that if you're a girl and you got
some dog asked there that you that you're seeing, and
he's dog assing around the place, you think, well, I'm
I'm clearly not that important to you.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Well, but what if that's not really the point?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah, you guys, that's a crazy loose man compared to
what we were. I think it was so hard to
find people back in the day because there was no
dating apps. I think the dating apps have changed everything.
I think that's where it's gone.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
And you're not boyfriend and girlfriend either unless you say
your boyfriend and girlfriend. So exclusive is a different thing
to boyfriend and girlfriend. Oh yeah, you can say you're exclusive,
so you're not seeing anyone else, but you're still.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Not you're also not seeing them. What's sorry? What's the
what's the point that though?
Speaker 5 (09:38):
I don't know, it's just to think.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Were you exclusively?
Speaker 5 (09:44):
No? But that's something you I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Your boyfriend, your own boyfriend girlfriend situation? Yeah, okay, you're
living with you.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I feel like it goes exclusive and then boyfriend girlfriend.
I don't think it goes from nothing to boyfriend girl.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Your boyfriend and girlfriend. If you're exclusive, what I mean,
don't you reckon?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Can? I can? I? Can we go through not blaming you?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
This is not your responsibility. But I just think that's
who seemed exactly the same to me.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
So I would like to go through the stages if
I could, from from a caterpillar a crystalisk to beautiful,
beautiful butterfly. Do you start with you don't know each
other at all, obviously you need meet each other. Then
you go to situationship, Yeah, situationships another talking on what
(10:37):
is talk?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
What is a situation?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I feel like I'm the gen Z translator because are
you in a situationship? No, we're not in a situationship,
although even told you here in a bit of a situationship.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Situationships when you're together, but you're not together.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
It's like that situations situationship.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
We're engaged a situation.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
No, you're okay. So you go now as talking talking
stages before a situationship.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
It doesn't have to be.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
It can be afterwards, it can be or they can
be concurrent.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
You can be going out your dating, you're actually going
on dates. You're sort of a situationship. He's still not
exclusive or anything, but seeing sort of situationship.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, but that comes after the talking stages, when you're
sliding into the dms. You'll be familiar with that phrase, Jerry,
I know you're doing it quite a bit, so he's
so you're sliding, So you slide into the dms, and
at that point you're at the talking stage. You're in
a talking stage. You can even refer to someone as
my talking.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Stage, which you called it a start. I mean, it's
just it's just how my talking is a stage at all.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Yeah, you're in a talking stage then, yeah, this is
these are different levels of coortship. Then you're into a situationship,
which is where there's a bit of a situation there,
like there's a vibe it talking maybe yeah, yeah or
maybe uh. And then you're in a situationship. Have you
had six at this point? Necessarily you can, but.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
It's not necessary to be in a situation.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Then you're entering into a little bit of an f
WB situation. What's that? Friends with benefits? Benefits can also
be a situation and also be a situationship. Then there's imaginationship,
which is where you're just talking one person and that
they don't even know that you're in an imaginationship with them,
just like a situation.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
That's horrible, so unrequired.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
It isn't five of them at the moment. That's unrequired. Yeah, okay, unrequired.
So then and then you're going so you've been a
situationship for a while, Then all of a sudden, you're
going to have a bit of a what are we? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:38):
How you?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
How well?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
How would it normally take to get to these stages?
Speaker 5 (12:43):
I think that really depends to the personally, Like for me, Jerry,
when you know you know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I'd say you fell in love on a bus. I
mean your situationship started on a bus.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
For it was an imaginationship.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I feel like mine would last for a couple of hours.
It comes love, then comes verge.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Then that's you're proposing.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Jeremy Wells and Mania Stewart find them on Instagram at
DARKI Breakfast. Jerry and Mania join the Conflict the Hodaki
Breakfast discussion group on Facebook for more.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
I'd say about if you're going from talking stage too
to what situationship, situationship to exclusive, talking stage to exclusive,
talking stage to exclusive, that it's take a couple of months.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, okay, So as a parent of a young teenage daughter,
you would say you probably want to take a couple
of months to get to that point before.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Your exclusive, before you exclusive.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Yeah, if both parties are happies with it, happy with it,
happy as.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Fun, and my experience is always one that's keener than
the other.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
One hundred it has to be.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
You can't be even it's impossible that it can be even.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Then. There's lots of theories about a floating around online
saying like the guy should always be like, if it's
a guy and a girl, more guy should always be
more the girl and the girl to the guy.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
But that's because girls are more likely to post on
social media, and that's why the other ones posting. The
guys should be wanted to me, whereas a guy's person
more to be more the other way make any sense?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Well, yeah, oftentimes that girl might be more into the guy,
but then the girl won't tell the guy that that's
the case. I always found that frustrating. It's like, just
if you're into someone, then you're will be honest.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
It's very confusing.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
There is a lot of tree to man king keen
as well. Oh yeah, sure, it's a good saying that one.
That's that's true.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Girls must have really wanted to keep me king.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
A lot of unrequired. There's a lot of unrequired, a.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Lot of imaginationships.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
What imagination?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
What are the stages of imagination?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Ship?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
When does the do paid?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Yeah, I'm wondering that, and who pays the dowry?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Look, there's a lot to be said for a bloody
arranged marriage. I won't have them run down, No.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I told I have them run down. I spoke to
my father in law and I said to him, I'll
be down in a few weeks to collect that dowry Daniel,
all right, and I'm on twelve year to Speckle Park,
ready to go when I get there, all right, So
as I'm taking a fucking headache off your hands, all right.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
You know, there's a whole lot of stats on arranged
marriages and how many of the men didn't divorce.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Not many, not many. But that's also a cultural thing.
I think if your parents have arranged it, then.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
But maybe maybe some people are better at maybe families
and mums and rister family actually quite good at knowing
what's right for their kids.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Maybe maybe m.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
It's only recently that we've changed it's.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
A situationship into exclusive.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, okay, so we go back where are we at?
Speaker 5 (15:54):
And then again, such situationship can be exclusive.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
You can have an exclusive situation and shure, I would
have thought that the situationship is sort of vague.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
But again it's a stage. An exclusive is like the
term for that stage.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Of yeah, right, so what happens with the exclusive? And
then you go, actually, I don't know, that's a.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Breaker, yeah, but still kind of a breakout.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
That's a breaker someone else at that point, but you
don't break up from a situation ship though.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
No, you just sort of ghost. I think, can you
can you?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Can you go to an exclusive and then go, you
know what, I don't know about this anymore. I'm all
start back having sex with other people again and then
say them, can we start having sex with other people
again at that point?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Or is that always? But no, I think that's kind
of the part. That's the thing of exclusive. Excuse me, exclusive,
isn't it that you're not doing that?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
But then there's the horrible situation that I've definitely been
in before. And you you meet up with a lovely
glass and you're missing around and.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
You love her. Let's say you love her.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Let's say you're in love with her and she's number five,
and you're like, she's number five on the list of
people that you've been another very specific number five.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
And she's number five.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
So I guess, you know, I guess that's that. I
guess we're exclusive now, boyfriend, we're going steady, were going
around together, and she's like, probably probably not. Fuck they're
because then even numbers, you've got two options.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
You get out, you peg up your stuff and you
get out, or you keep going.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I can, I reckon, I can work on this.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
I what what do you you would have.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Picked w back? She said, fair enough, I can't. I'm
going to find someone else.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Definitely try and keep it and keep it.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Maybe she'll change your mind. If I write a song
that happened, that happened, maybe some of this poetry that
I've been working on might help that never worked, that's
never worked in terms of percentages.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I mean they appreciate it. That's no, No, that's really nice.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
I really like about me.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
I have friends who've had songs written for them, and
it's it's usually not.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Do they send Do they send it to me?
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
And then you guys will roast.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Them in the God No, that would have happened to you.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I know, Well there was no group chats around that
sort of time. I think.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
When you didn't used to live in caves.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
It's something that was something something so sad about you know,
when you when you really bear your heart that someone
so vulnerable and then they just go and tell everybody, Oh,
that's awful, that's awful. That's a good one, because it
takes a lot for people to bear their heart and.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Then not claiming it's a nice thing today.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
But you're doing it. And then while we were so
hold on, when do you.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Go from exclusive exclusive?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Yeah, you go to me? He got a no, no, no,
my situation, yeah, field side fiance stupid? I hate that.
Have you do you ever fiance?
Speaker 5 (19:23):
No? Wait, here's an interesting one. When do you stop
calling it your girlfriend and go to significant other? Slash pants?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Oh yeah, partner? That's another one. Well, I've been calling
my partner Jeff as long as I've been talking into
a microphone for a job, because there's a portion of
society that gets really triggered by that, my partner Jiff.
And every now and then you hear that, you get that,
(19:49):
and I love that.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I love feeding into that. The partner thing is an
interesting one. I think, like, I'm forty nine, it would
feel weird.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
I'm not married. It would feel weird for.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Me to call Tulsi my girlfriend.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Yeah, I felt that my own chat.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
But I think when you have children with someone, you
end up calling them your partner. I've naturally just started
changing that one.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
When I got engaged to my fiance. My mate messaged
me and he goes, Girlfriends are for boys, partners are
for business. But a wife. That's for a man. Oh god.
I was like, that's fucking yez.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
So yeah, I don't know. And I do feel like
you when you have kids with someone, they do become
your partner because you've got this, Yeah, you've got to
shared thing going on, and you both got to work together.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
To ask a man on a flight recently if I
could swap places with him so that I could sit
next to Jeff, and I called him my wife because
I just can't explain, this is my partner, what business?
What are you? Also he said no, I'm gonna get
(20:55):
us both kicked off this fucking plane.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
There were you trading him in middle seat.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I was trading him in ale and he was in
the front row. And he explained it to her. He
had actually paid for business class and they overbooked it,
so he got bumped back to cattle class with us,
and then they gave him the extra league room and
he was just like, so, I've actually overpaid for the seats.
I don't want to swap with you, Okay, I can't
hit him. We've both got supported Wow. Yeah, but that's love.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, that's what love can do, man, That is and.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Then you go marriage child early divorce, yeah, complex split
family situation. Yeah, into much younger woman in my fifties,
your fifties.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Whatever we get to here, I feel like it's become
way more complex. I think the communication methods have created
that complexity.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Again, it's all very like based on who it is though, Yeah,
the type of person you are, and if you're that
way in kind or not. You know, yeah, everyone has
their own.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Because yep, well no, totally. And I think that there
is that part of it as well. And some people
are like we just we just want to have a
good time, and you.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Know, its like people girlfriend and that's fine too, yeah,
you know.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Yeah, And well when I was a high school phone
cell phones had just come in, so people you would
have we called them text relationships. So there were people
who you never see them talk together at high school,
but then they're texting each other all the time, and
they were they called themselves boyfriend and girlfriend, but you
but they basically didn't interact with each other.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Did any of those people ever get hooked up and
get married?
Speaker 4 (22:39):
I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so. Nah,
so yeah, but yeah, there were there were text relationships
going on.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I think texts have been really good for if you're
a bit.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Shy and you want to ask someone out.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I think the text has really saved those people because
that used to.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Be quite a quite a big thing.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
To have to overcome as a as a guy. Remember that,
you know, growing up we didn't have texts, so when
so you'd have to call someone up and say, yes,
it was.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Hard, man, it was.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I feel it actually was good for your mental toughness
and and it was definitely guys asking girls out. It
was quite traditional in that sense. You never really.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Got a romantic that way. Then sliding into someone, yeah, it.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Was ballsy Smith.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
You have to get past the appearents as well on
the landline.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Sera Smith's one of Jeffs mates. Don't that's not so?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
It was quite that was quite full on that. And
also you'd have to do a lot of guesswork. Person
like me, I think she likes me. You left a
lot on the table that way. Jesus put a lot
left alon on the table because you'd be like, you
give me no signs at all, I'm not she obviously
might me, and then you find out years later she
really liked you, Like.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Is there anything worse than that fighting out a few
years later. What if it killed her to tell me, yeah,
she was really into you back there?
Speaker 3 (23:58):
What really?
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yeah, it's off on the way I could have told
me then I could have slept a few more nights.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Yes, you wanted to go out with me years no.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
But definitely a lot of a lot of embarrassing love letters. Yeah, man,
embarrassing because that was your only that was your only
way writing.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
As now it's like what he posted on Instagram story
about me.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, now there was no complexity, none of that crap.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Well, we had Bibo back then. Honestly, my I would
rather my fucking search history got published than my Bibo
got reactivated. I would crunch so hard from like what
thirteen to fourteen year old and back in the day,
boys and girls would have like a joint if they
were if they're exclusive, they'd make a joint Bibo account. Yeah,
So to take the person out of that, man, my
(24:48):
mate Gus made a joint Bibo account Gus M and I,
and then people would have to guess who they were
messaging at the top. But at that time, you could put.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Your glass exclusive. Were you and Gus exclusive?
Speaker 4 (24:58):
I didn't want to put terms on it. We we had
this exclusion, and then you could make quizzes for your
friends to do online.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
You guys were just if buddies man.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
And then well, wait, do you hear what we did
on that page. All we did was make quizzes about
how hot Met Ghetto was. And so we'd ask all
these questions on this quiz and the answer was always
Matt Ghetto. I don't know why it was back in
the day, but you could. You could list your first
In fact, you had to list your top eight friends
or nine or something eight I think it was. Yeah,
(25:30):
so all of all the friends that you had, you
had to list the top eight in order. And I
remember falling out with a high school girlfriend because she
put another dude at number one, and I was like,
who fuck? Yes, turns out how batter for the other team,
I had nothing to worry about.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Well, that Matt probably was why they were through in
the no threat.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Yeah, yeah, I still perceived a threat. Raise my antlas.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Okay, all right, should we knock this one on the head.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Just imagining hanging out with people at winds Now and
saying you're friends with benefits. I've been sitting on that
for about twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
That's a good Jerry and Manaiah catch the radio show
from six to ten weekdays, The Hadarky Breakfast
Daily bespoke content that you won't find on the radio
show The DARKI Breakfast podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
So no, no, no, it's right to start the podcast here
if you just go down to on the sheet there
podcast from the Conclave, Lee Sherwan has put in and
surely Jerry has one of these. Just want your live
reaction to that. What what do you think about that
there that you can see? Describe it for the listeners.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
It's a Sir Richard Haadley commemorative ball. It's a Handley
cricket ball, which were a terrible, terrible cricket balls. Actually,
I remember playing with a couple of years. They were
like rocks made in India. Yeah, and one of those
broke my bat. Yeah, shocking things. So they had like
a lacquer on the outside of them that used to
(00:44):
end up. It was almost like cellophane and racked and
kra can come away.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
And they were filled with concrete. Yeah, terrible. I go,
I'm going to fucking earl if bomb of the podcast.
I got a cock abart a beat for Christmas. One
year was about twelve or even twelve went down the
park got embroiled in like a park cricket situation. These
fellows that were playing there had brought this Headley ball.
One of them got the thickest edge, took a chunk
out of the side of my brand new bear.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I almost when I went and visited him at Pegasus
a couple of years ago, I almost bought it up.
It was like, mate, you were a fantastic cricketer, but
your range of cricket gear, your balls left a lot
to be desired. Considering that, if you're a true cricketing purist,
you should have been all over those balls and made
sure that they were essentially rebranded Koka barros or jerks
(01:31):
or something decent. Those things broke a lot of bats anyway,
And that's taking me back to that, to the to
the early nineties and those annoying balls. And also they
get a horrific bounce, like they bounce up on you shockingly.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Well because particularly off a artificial pitch, because you got
concrete on concrete, that's explosive.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, So that's what I'm looking at there.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I'm also looking.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
At this follow through a beautiful follow for it is
a picture of him. There's a ball Handley crooked ball
signed by Richard Hadley. There's a picture above that of
him and what you were described as a slightly religious
shaped window. It's like something you might see as either
a mosque or a Catholic tabernacle.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
He's also it's in the era of when they just
wore business shirts to play cricket. That was ridiculous, and
their boots were really bad for your knees.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I imagine they had actual leather soles with spikes and the
hard hardly the souls.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I remember my granddad had a pair of I don't
know if his boots or something, but they were out
in his garage. I used to look at these things
and how the funk that had them in Rugby boots. Yeah,
the Rugby boots, Oh my god, the Rugby bots for
next level. Yeah, leather with like wooden soles on them,
and then studs screwed into the wood and it was like,
how the fuck?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I know? I know, So that's what I'm looking at.
It's the Richard Harley, first baller to capture four hundred
Test works, that says, and then it's a commemorative and.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Then it's got all of his stats. So Test matches
eighty six, four hundred and thirty one wickets in an
average of twenty two thirty six five wickets in an
innx five wicket bags nine times ten wickets in a match.
That's pretty impressive.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, look at their first class record, jury, can you
can you make that out there? Three hundred and forty
two first class matches average eighteen Yeah, nearly fifteen hundred wickets.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, because that clothes obviously a lot of the county
matches that he played. He also played for South Australia
and Tasmania, which is crazy. And the Sheffield chillback in
the day, two hettricks, two hetricks and I like that.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I like that. It's got it's the names, it's got
the scalps down the side. Oh yeah, first wicket as Fickball,
one hundredth wicket Imraan kh two hundredth wicket Norman Cowans,
Alan Border was, the three hundred and four hundred was
Sanja menjer Car and the four hundred and thirty fist
and final wicket Devin Milk.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, world record, three sevent and fourth Test work, magic moments,
four hundred Test works and then the world record. Yeah,
great bowler, great New Zealander. And oh that's something I
want to ask the group. Have you seen that ad
will Sir Richard.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Haby on the toilet paper.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah, and he.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Says great, and the guy goes, great, New Zealander. He
says he's a great guy or something like that, and
he goes, no, he's a great New Zealander. It's a
really weird ad. It's for toilet paper.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Do we feel it's derivative for what we I mean,
it's always the thing when you hear something like that,
you think.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Derivative of what the Reckforce show? Yeah, yeah, I reckon.
I reckon it does I reckon?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
But I always feel about silly saying things like that.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Have you asked them?
Speaker 5 (04:46):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I haven't.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Actually did you text him yesterday for the anniversary of
his two hundred wicket?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
No, I've stopped. I feel about stink texting him.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I feel, well, didn't he stop texting you back?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Is that the problem?
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Yeah, because he started texting Stuart Broad Oh yeah, he did.
Shame Stuart Broad some essentially the same thing that I
asked him. In fact, I think I asked him a
better question than Stuart Brod. Mine was more based around the.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Skip compared to the the leg around that he used
to have in the early part of his career, and
then he moved to a little hot, little skip.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
The difference was Stuart Broad was actually going to do
something with that information.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Hey, excuse me me and I I used to have
a skip at the beginning of my run up, just
like Sir Richard Hardley. How many Test wickets did you take?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Five?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
How many times did you play against Australia and Australia
with a teenage mutant ninja tootle headband around your head?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Well, I wonder whether I even took four hundred wickets.
I don't think I probably did. I don't think you
did in my life.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Nah, what if you included the backyard? Yeah no, no,
that doesn't count. But if you did, would you hit
four hundred?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's going to be I once cheated it to this
this woman who was his son at my woman, not
that woman there, different woman was picking up her son
at one of my kid's skills, and she was she
was boring me with how many runs her son scored
in backyard cricket. I was like, okay, I must never
come to one of these child pick ups every again.
This is this is horrific. It is horrific.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, So Stuart Broad fifth most Test wickets even six
hundred and four.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Yes, he's ahead of Hardley.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Do you reckon Handley gets.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Well?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Broad fucked off? How do you play a memo of
the game, dear you, great.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Bowler to a left hander, very good bowler to left
hander is broad around the wicket and then and then
get a little bit of extra bounce and just just
straight and slightly. Yeah, devastating day, this tail up unplayable.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Eight for fifteen. He got once again Australia.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
But I used to cop a lot of abuse. This
is turned into a cricket podcast. Yeah, I have that.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Let's talk about cheating. You were gonna you're thinking about chedding?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, no, that's not trueman. I was not thinking about chanting.
What happened was we were discussing cheating, the idea of
international miss cheating international mistress.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Guys, what someone's gonna find out today that they are
mistress by being taken on a date. They're going to
be like, someone's gonna be like, you know what, I
won't see it tomorrow. I'm busy. Let's go out tonight
and celebrate thing day Valentine's Day. And then that's how
that person's going to find out. I'm a side piss.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I want to know more, and you guys, can we
get Zoie involved in this because I think she's going
to know more about this because she's closer to the age. Zoe,
can you come in for a second because you might
be able to help us in this realm.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
She always looks very suspicious when she's asked to come
into the studio, especially for the podcast.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
You about just in terms of the dating scene, and
I know you're not you're you have a partner, but
she doesn't cheat, she's got she's got a partner, so
you're you're tied up. But how does it work in
terms of dating? Like do you have to say to
someone now ex we are excluded? Do you actually use
(07:55):
those words? Like who says it? How does it work?
What is there any framework around? How does it all work?
Speaker 5 (08:02):
It's a lot more like casual these days. I think
like it's very You sort of see each other and
then you don't really talk about what you are, who
you like, what's happening, and then after like a few
months or something, one of you guys will say, well,
are you seeing anyone else? Okay, are you going are
you seeing anyone else? No, I'm not. And then and
you go, oh, we should we just go exclusive?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Okay, because back in Jerry's day, you would be betrothed
to someone at the debutante ball, Yeah, wouldn't you, And
then the whole town would gather together.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And I think it was always assumed that if you
were going around, if you were having this is you know,
to put it bluntly, if you're having six with someone,
basically there was probably only one. If you're having sex
with multiple people during at once, then your dog ass.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
There's full dog.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Gars that was always considered pretty dog.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Is it still considered full dog as bro.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
No, if you don't put the label on it, right,
you know?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Okay, it's all.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
About though, what you say.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
You think that if you're a girl and you got
some dog asked there that you that you're seeing, and
he's dog assing around the place, you think, well, I'm
I'm clearly not that important to you.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Well, but what if that's not really the point?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah, you guys, that's a crazy loose man compared to
what we were. I think it was so hard to
find people back in the day because there was no
dating apps. I think the dating apps have changed everything.
I think that's where it's gone.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
And you're not boyfriend and girlfriend either unless you say
your boyfriend and girlfriend. So exclusive is a different thing
to boyfriend and girlfriend. Oh yeah, you can say you're exclusive,
so you're not seeing anyone else, but you're still.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Not you're also not seeing them. What's sorry? What's the
what's the point that though?
Speaker 5 (09:38):
I don't know, it's just to think.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Were you exclusively?
Speaker 5 (09:44):
No? But that's something you I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Your boyfriend, your own boyfriend girlfriend situation? Yeah, okay, you're
living with you.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I feel like it goes exclusive and then boyfriend girlfriend.
I don't think it goes from nothing to boyfriend girl.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Your boyfriend and girlfriend. If you're exclusive, what I mean,
don't you reckon?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Can? I can? I? Can we go through not blaming you?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
This is not your responsibility. But I just think that's
who seemed exactly the same to me.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
So I would like to go through the stages if
I could, from from a caterpillar a crystalisk to beautiful,
beautiful butterfly. Do you start with you don't know each
other at all, obviously you need meet each other. Then
you go to situationship, Yeah, situationships another talking on what
(10:37):
is talk?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
What is a situation?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I feel like I'm the gen Z translator because are
you in a situationship? No, we're not in a situationship,
although even told you here in a bit of a situationship.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Situationships when you're together, but you're not together.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
It's like that situations situationship.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
We're engaged a situation.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
No, you're okay. So you go now as talking talking
stages before a situationship.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
It doesn't have to be.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
It can be afterwards, it can be or they can
be concurrent.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
You can be going out your dating, you're actually going
on dates. You're sort of a situationship. He's still not
exclusive or anything, but seeing sort of situationship.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, but that comes after the talking stages, when you're
sliding into the dms. You'll be familiar with that phrase, Jerry,
I know you're doing it quite a bit, so he's
so you're sliding, So you slide into the dms, and
at that point you're at the talking stage. You're in
a talking stage. You can even refer to someone as
my talking.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Stage, which you called it a start. I mean, it's
just it's just how my talking is a stage at all.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Yeah, you're in a talking stage then, yeah, this is
these are different levels of coortship. Then you're into a situationship,
which is where there's a bit of a situation there,
like there's a vibe it talking maybe yeah, yeah or
maybe uh. And then you're in a situationship. Have you
had six at this point? Necessarily you can, but.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
It's not necessary to be in a situation.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Then you're entering into a little bit of an f
WB situation. What's that? Friends with benefits? Benefits can also
be a situation and also be a situationship. Then there's imaginationship,
which is where you're just talking one person and that
they don't even know that you're in an imaginationship with them,
just like a situation.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
That's horrible, so unrequired.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
It isn't five of them at the moment. That's unrequired. Yeah, okay, unrequired.
So then and then you're going so you've been a
situationship for a while, Then all of a sudden, you're
going to have a bit of a what are we? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:38):
How you?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
How well?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
How would it normally take to get to these stages?
Speaker 5 (12:43):
I think that really depends to the personally, Like for me, Jerry,
when you know you know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I'd say you fell in love on a bus. I
mean your situationship started on a bus.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
For it was an imaginationship.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I feel like mine would last for a couple of hours.
It comes love, then comes verge.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Then that's you're proposing.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Jeremy Wells and Mania Stewart find them on Instagram at
DARKI Breakfast. Jerry and Mania join the Conflict the Hodaki
Breakfast discussion group on Facebook for more.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
I'd say about if you're going from talking stage too
to what situationship, situationship to exclusive, talking stage to exclusive,
talking stage to exclusive, that it's take a couple of months.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, okay, So as a parent of a young teenage daughter,
you would say you probably want to take a couple
of months to get to that point before.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Your exclusive, before you exclusive.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Yeah, if both parties are happies with it, happy with it,
happy as.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Fun, and my experience is always one that's keener than
the other.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
One hundred it has to be.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
You can't be even it's impossible that it can be even.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Then. There's lots of theories about a floating around online
saying like the guy should always be like, if it's
a guy and a girl, more guy should always be
more the girl and the girl to the guy.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
But that's because girls are more likely to post on
social media, and that's why the other ones posting. The
guys should be wanted to me, whereas a guy's person
more to be more the other way make any sense?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Well, yeah, oftentimes that girl might be more into the guy,
but then the girl won't tell the guy that that's
the case. I always found that frustrating. It's like, just
if you're into someone, then you're will be honest.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
It's very confusing.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
There is a lot of tree to man king keen
as well. Oh yeah, sure, it's a good saying that one.
That's that's true.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Girls must have really wanted to keep me king.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
A lot of unrequired. There's a lot of unrequired, a.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Lot of imaginationships.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
What imagination?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
What are the stages of imagination?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Ship?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
When does the do paid?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Yeah, I'm wondering that, and who pays the dowry?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Look, there's a lot to be said for a bloody
arranged marriage. I won't have them run down, No.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I told I have them run down. I spoke to
my father in law and I said to him, I'll
be down in a few weeks to collect that dowry Daniel,
all right, and I'm on twelve year to Speckle Park,
ready to go when I get there, all right, So
as I'm taking a fucking headache off your hands, all right.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
You know, there's a whole lot of stats on arranged
marriages and how many of the men didn't divorce.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Not many, not many. But that's also a cultural thing.
I think if your parents have arranged it, then.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
But maybe maybe some people are better at maybe families
and mums and rister family actually quite good at knowing
what's right for their kids.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Maybe maybe m.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
It's only recently that we've changed it's.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
A situationship into exclusive.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, okay, so we go back where are we at?
Speaker 5 (15:54):
And then again, such situationship can be exclusive.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
You can have an exclusive situation and shure, I would
have thought that the situationship is sort of vague.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
But again it's a stage. An exclusive is like the
term for that stage.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Of yeah, right, so what happens with the exclusive? And
then you go, actually, I don't know, that's a.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Breaker, yeah, but still kind of a breakout.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
That's a breaker someone else at that point, but you
don't break up from a situation ship though.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
No, you just sort of ghost. I think, can you
can you?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Can you go to an exclusive and then go, you
know what, I don't know about this anymore. I'm all
start back having sex with other people again and then
say them, can we start having sex with other people
again at that point?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Or is that always? But no, I think that's kind
of the part. That's the thing of exclusive. Excuse me, exclusive,
isn't it that you're not doing that?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
But then there's the horrible situation that I've definitely been
in before. And you you meet up with a lovely
glass and you're missing around and.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
You love her. Let's say you love her.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Let's say you're in love with her and she's number five,
and you're like, she's number five on the list of
people that you've been another very specific number five.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
And she's number five.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
So I guess, you know, I guess that's that. I
guess we're exclusive now, boyfriend, we're going steady, were going
around together, and she's like, probably probably not. Fuck they're
because then even numbers, you've got two options.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
You get out, you peg up your stuff and you
get out, or you keep going.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I can, I reckon, I can work on this.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
I what what do you you would have.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Picked w back? She said, fair enough, I can't. I'm
going to find someone else.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Definitely try and keep it and keep it.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Maybe she'll change your mind. If I write a song
that happened, that happened, maybe some of this poetry that
I've been working on might help that never worked, that's
never worked in terms of percentages.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I mean they appreciate it. That's no, No, that's really nice.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
I really like about me.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
I have friends who've had songs written for them, and
it's it's usually not.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Do they send Do they send it to me?
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
And then you guys will roast.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Them in the God No, that would have happened to you.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I know, Well there was no group chats around that
sort of time. I think.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
When you didn't used to live in caves.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
It's something that was something something so sad about you know,
when you when you really bear your heart that someone
so vulnerable and then they just go and tell everybody, Oh,
that's awful, that's awful. That's a good one, because it
takes a lot for people to bear their heart and.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Then not claiming it's a nice thing today.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
But you're doing it. And then while we were so
hold on, when do you.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Go from exclusive exclusive?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Yeah, you go to me? He got a no, no, no,
my situation, yeah, field side fiance stupid? I hate that.
Have you do you ever fiance?
Speaker 5 (19:23):
No? Wait, here's an interesting one. When do you stop
calling it your girlfriend and go to significant other? Slash pants?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Oh yeah, partner? That's another one. Well, I've been calling
my partner Jeff as long as I've been talking into
a microphone for a job, because there's a portion of
society that gets really triggered by that, my partner Jiff.
And every now and then you hear that, you get that,
(19:49):
and I love that.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I love feeding into that. The partner thing is an
interesting one. I think, like, I'm forty nine, it would
feel weird.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
I'm not married. It would feel weird for.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Me to call Tulsi my girlfriend.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Yeah, I felt that my own chat.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
But I think when you have children with someone, you
end up calling them your partner. I've naturally just started
changing that one.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
When I got engaged to my fiance. My mate messaged
me and he goes, Girlfriends are for boys, partners are
for business. But a wife. That's for a man. Oh god.
I was like, that's fucking yez.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
So yeah, I don't know. And I do feel like
you when you have kids with someone, they do become
your partner because you've got this, Yeah, you've got to
shared thing going on, and you both got to work together.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
To ask a man on a flight recently if I
could swap places with him so that I could sit
next to Jeff, and I called him my wife because
I just can't explain, this is my partner, what business?
What are you? Also he said no, I'm gonna get
(20:55):
us both kicked off this fucking plane.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
There were you trading him in middle seat.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I was trading him in ale and he was in
the front row. And he explained it to her. He
had actually paid for business class and they overbooked it,
so he got bumped back to cattle class with us,
and then they gave him the extra league room and
he was just like, so, I've actually overpaid for the seats.
I don't want to swap with you, Okay, I can't
hit him. We've both got supported Wow. Yeah, but that's love.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, that's what love can do, man, That is and.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Then you go marriage child early divorce, yeah, complex split
family situation. Yeah, into much younger woman in my fifties,
your fifties.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Whatever we get to here, I feel like it's become
way more complex. I think the communication methods have created
that complexity.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Again, it's all very like based on who it is though, Yeah,
the type of person you are, and if you're that
way in kind or not. You know, yeah, everyone has
their own.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Because yep, well no, totally. And I think that there
is that part of it as well. And some people
are like we just we just want to have a
good time, and you.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Know, its like people girlfriend and that's fine too, yeah,
you know.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Yeah, And well when I was a high school phone
cell phones had just come in, so people you would
have we called them text relationships. So there were people
who you never see them talk together at high school,
but then they're texting each other all the time, and
they were they called themselves boyfriend and girlfriend, but you
but they basically didn't interact with each other.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Did any of those people ever get hooked up and
get married?
Speaker 4 (22:39):
I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so. Nah,
so yeah, but yeah, there were there were text relationships
going on.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I think texts have been really good for if you're
a bit.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Shy and you want to ask someone out.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I think the text has really saved those people because
that used to.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Be quite a quite a big thing.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
To have to overcome as a as a guy. Remember that,
you know, growing up we didn't have texts, so when
so you'd have to call someone up and say, yes,
it was.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Hard, man, it was.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I feel it actually was good for your mental toughness
and and it was definitely guys asking girls out. It
was quite traditional in that sense. You never really.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Got a romantic that way. Then sliding into someone, yeah, it.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Was ballsy Smith.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
You have to get past the appearents as well on
the landline.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Sera Smith's one of Jeffs mates. Don't that's not so?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
It was quite that was quite full on that. And
also you'd have to do a lot of guesswork. Person
like me, I think she likes me. You left a
lot on the table that way. Jesus put a lot
left alon on the table because you'd be like, you
give me no signs at all, I'm not she obviously
might me, and then you find out years later she
really liked you, Like.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Is there anything worse than that fighting out a few
years later. What if it killed her to tell me, yeah,
she was really into you back there?
Speaker 3 (23:58):
What really?
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yeah, it's off on the way I could have told
me then I could have slept a few more nights.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Yes, you wanted to go out with me years no.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
But definitely a lot of a lot of embarrassing love letters. Yeah, man,
embarrassing because that was your only that was your only
way writing.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
As now it's like what he posted on Instagram story
about me.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, now there was no complexity, none of that crap.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Well, we had Bibo back then. Honestly, my I would
rather my fucking search history got published than my Bibo
got reactivated. I would crunch so hard from like what
thirteen to fourteen year old and back in the day,
boys and girls would have like a joint if they
were if they're exclusive, they'd make a joint Bibo account. Yeah,
So to take the person out of that, man, my
(24:48):
mate Gus made a joint Bibo account Gus M and I,
and then people would have to guess who they were
messaging at the top. But at that time, you could put.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Your glass exclusive. Were you and Gus exclusive?
Speaker 4 (24:58):
I didn't want to put terms on it. We we had
this exclusion, and then you could make quizzes for your
friends to do online.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
You guys were just if buddies man.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
And then well, wait, do you hear what we did
on that page. All we did was make quizzes about
how hot Met Ghetto was. And so we'd ask all
these questions on this quiz and the answer was always
Matt Ghetto. I don't know why it was back in
the day, but you could. You could list your first
In fact, you had to list your top eight friends
or nine or something eight I think it was. Yeah,
(25:30):
so all of all the friends that you had, you
had to list the top eight in order. And I
remember falling out with a high school girlfriend because she
put another dude at number one, and I was like,
who fuck? Yes, turns out how batter for the other team,
I had nothing to worry about.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Well, that Matt probably was why they were through in
the no threat.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Yeah, yeah, I still perceived a threat. Raise my antlas.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Okay, all right, should we knock this one on the head.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Just imagining hanging out with people at winds Now and
saying you're friends with benefits. I've been sitting on that
for about twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
That's a good Jerry and Manaiah catch the radio show
from six to ten weekdays, The Hadarky Breakfast
Popular Podcasts
Betrayal Season 5
Saskia Inwood woke up one morning, knowing her life would never be the same. The night before, she learned the unimaginable – that the husband she knew in the light of day was a different person after dark. This season unpacks Saskia’s discovery of her husband’s secret life and her fight to bring him to justice. Along the way, we expose a crime that is just coming to light. This is also a story about the myth of the “perfect victim:” who gets believed, who gets doubted, and why. We follow Saskia as she works to reclaim her body, her voice, and her life. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at betrayalpod@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by Audiochuck Media Company.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.