April 13, 2026 • 29 mins
Today on the pod the guys talk about Viva La Dirt League - New Zealand’s global internet phenomenon whose sketches reach millions of viewers worldwide, and billions of views across social platforms.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Daily bespoke content that you won't find on the radio
show The Hurdaki Breakfast Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey, later on we're going to be chatting to Ellen
Morrison and Adam King from the very like basically the
superstars of Beava Dirt League. They mess of everywhere in
the world.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah, they're huge. So they do online videos. They started
basically taking the pass out of video.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Games, and then.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
There's all sorts of skets and they do live They
made a movie and it's all basically been funded by
the audience. So yeah, that's pretty cool. Millions of they've
got millions of subscribers, yeah, millions, and in their own
studio Outweist, yeah, which was funded by their followers. By me,
I think I think they funded like two point six
million or something. It was quite a lot. I think
(00:51):
I think I donated about two dollars fifty, did you. Yeah,
good for you all ahead at the time, man, But yeah,
be good to talk to them, SI if they're gonnat
jobs going.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, well Allan and Rowan, we're not talking to Royan,
but Allen and Roan used to be here at this
very very radio station.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yes, I know, and I know they talked about this
on the podcast recently, I think maybe we might play
the audio for them, although the friend's not coming in,
he's the one.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Who said it.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
So, yeah, skin Roman, funny you say that, you know what?
Should we play there? Should we play there?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
But a play now?
Speaker 5 (01:24):
I used to work at Injured Me back in the
day as a cameraman as as cameraman slash editor, as
did Allen. I did, and and Jeremy Wiles would always
be in the building and will pass and I'm looking this,
hee was Jimmy, Well.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
He's a flawless looking here.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
He's one of the most beautiful people on the planet,
that skin man.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
And and I'd always kind of go, I want to
I never know how to kind of get to know
him or just break the ice. Yeah, I'm always just
that little camera man scurrying around.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
And then one day, just by concidence, eyes in the
bathroom and he was also in the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
We both ended up being at the mirror, and I was.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Like, I'm gonna go, this is my chance, this is
a moment, this is the moment. And I was like,
screw take it. And I just said, excuse me, Jeremy,
what is your secret to having such incredible skin and
he just melted.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
He just melted before me. He was.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Into the clip.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Did you melt? I remember that moment. I remember it. Well,
that's Roland there. Yeah, for what, for some reason isn't
going in today. He's not going in. Maybe because he
doesn't want to. He doesn't want to address that. That
bathroom moment would have said, we're going to interview with
you with Jeremy Wells. Oh what day skin guy? Tuesday,
(02:40):
crazy situation with the bathroom. I remember then. I said
to him moisture. Moisture is the track. You need moisture
internally or externally both both. Yeah, I mean moisture externally,
but you're always going to have more moisture internally.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Hydration, well, you do have two separate glasses of water
in front of you right now.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Try to get as much as possible in the firsteen hours.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I've always said the Keida great radio hydration. Rd's got
a drink bottle. Yeah, drinks like.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
A toddler, the sippy cup. The sad thing is I
was just thinking that he drinks from a sippy cup.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
He's gonna tell me, can I get some handles on this?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:18):
Maybe a big nipple on it like a pitch.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
But yes, are on the pint glass. That just makes
me feel home. Yeah, yeah, run a big fan of that.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
We used to talk all the time, by the way, me,
Royan and Allen, we spoke all the time. They're saying
that they're scared to chet to be rubbish. I don't
believe that for a second.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I think later on that podcast said he hated you
as well, So.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I believe that for a second.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
They did actually ask when they pitched this interview, is
Jerry going to be there because we're a little afraid
of him.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah. So it's the skin.
Speaker 7 (03:47):
We'll find out.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
We'll find out hydration. He's so moist.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I'd like them to say something kind about my skin
when they come in place, just quickly before they do
come in though, because we don't need to subject them
to this. We were talking about the cocaine that was
shipped into the country forty eight forty eight bricks and
we're already eight kilogram forty eight kilograms and they're all
one kilogram bricks, and we're always like, does that ring
any alarm?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Bell Sea?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Why or two of them missing? Somebody mentioned it could
be forty eight because everything in bolt comes in multiples
of twelve.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, that's everything. Most things are base twelve. An't Maybe
that's the whole idea, is it base twelve?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I can't write most, but it can be divided into two, three, four,
and six.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
That's why we have the twelve hours and the twelve o'clock, and.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
The same logic for having twelve hours and sixty minutes.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
There we go. It makes sense because you've got to
go quarters and halves. Ten's hopeless. Ten's not visible by three,
for example. I don't know visible by two, but I
mean visible by four. It is, well, it's not three
point three. Yeah, but it's not three point three.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It's three point three through most enough when youre audition
out drugs, you know what I mean. Sure, if you're
building a rocket that needs to go to the moon,
a third's probably a bit of a nightmarish. This is
alwaysier than but fourth is easy to I think, do
you buy a third of a bricker cocaine?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I did, I know. I wouldn't never clue, No, it
never bought a bricker cocaine. But I would also think
that maybe that's got to do with the amount that
they bought it for. I kind of think that maybe
they bought it for let's just say forty eight kilograms,
I don't know, five million or something.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
They said Street Valley is sixteen point eight. You'd have
to think the markup is at least fifty percent. I
reckon throw at three hundred percent. Three hundred percent market,
I think so. So then we're saying a third of
the sixteen point eight. So you're right, So let's say
four point let's call it five. Yep, welcome back to
the start of your own point.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, it's nice to be here, Thanks very much. The
question was back exactly what you were trying to explain
to me. Someone else suggested that it was a it
was a Dequis shipment. Yeah, so someone else suggested that
they would give away forty eight kilograms to bring in
two hundred kilograms somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I can completely see what I used to work the
port and welcome, Welcome to Myni Mouy memories.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Welcome back. I did work at the port for a
period there. You weren't a Steve Adoor by chance. It
was well with a red cape and with bulls rowing
at you.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
That's a metador, not to be confused with a humid
door where you might keep your Cubans cigars.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Or al himidor the tequila.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Or al himid or the tequila, or rotating doors or
sliding doors or ranch sliders or Jim morrissel but I
or corridors Ecuador, not to be confused with the Ecuador or
the Corridor of Uncertainty.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Got to know where you're off stone more door more door.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
One does not simply walk into being a steven door,
all right, although of all the jobs, that is probably
one of the easiest to walk in because for thousands
of years people men have been able to walk into
a port and find work.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Well, what do you do as a steve it or
what does steve it doors actually do? Unload ships? Yeah,
but how do you unload them depends on what's on there,
don't it, Jerry. Generally there'll be.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
A crane or a straddle, or if it's like loose cargo,
you might be able to, like it was pretty loose, dude,
you might do that. Our main thing was we they
would unload the ships or the crane. Then we as
the al steve itdores, we would open them for inspection,
generally by NPI, so they come through and they check
(07:29):
if there's any sort of there's a snake in there,
if there's a spider, if anyone is hiding drugs, and.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
If there's a hidden cavity in the roof of it.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
But for example, let's say there is a forty foot container,
which is the double long ones, real real long ones.
Generally they are twenty the forty ones are quite big.
Now let's say that that is full of, for example, garlic,
boxes of garlic. How the hell are you going to
check whether there's something else thirty feet in there without
pulling it all out. You know, you don't have enough
(07:57):
hours in the day. So basically they just open it,
pull a couple of boxes out, and go hay happy.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Right, So if you're going to plant drugs, so what
you're saying is minight. If you are going to and
put drugs, it would be for all those people out
there that are about to do it, do it. Put
them at the back. I would even just go midway through,
really midway. You wouldn't need to go very far back.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Can you open it from both sides?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Some of them you can, right, some of them you can't. Also, Yeah,
because if you thought there were drugs in there you
could just angle grind one end of it, rip that
thing on.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Wouldn't it be all about where it came from, for example,
if it's coming from Panama or yeah, Colombia or Ecuador,
or you might look at it unel, you might look
a little bit closer.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, one day, because it's all very formal, you know,
there's there's rules and regulations and that. So I would
have to open the container. I open it. The NPI
guy's not allowed to touch anything. I have to do
all of that, and then he just examines it. One day,
we cracked a twenty foot container of I can't remember
(09:00):
what was in it. He lifts his torch up and
he right in front of him was an enormous spider
web with a spider I reckon, almost the size of
my hand. And it was one of these I had
not seen one of these things in New Zealand before.
It was one of those things you might see in
like the Amazon forest or something, the jungle and the jungle.
(09:22):
And he's standing there looking at it, like right in
front of him, with the torch right next to his eyes.
We're looking at him looking at it, and we're just
like buck, how's he going to play this stands there
for a second, debating, and then he just looks down
on his little clipboard and he goes.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yep, it's good.
Speaker 8 (09:45):
We're all like, I'll fuck it out now there, you know,
funnel web. Whatever the hell this exotic spiders? And because
we used to carry kens of just like raid fly
spread and stuff for that kind of thing whenever we
saw that. But he's exotic spiders, yeah, for or domestic spider.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
How do you know exotic spiders go with the spray
of martine. I don't know. I can't imagine. They wouldn't
like it.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
They wouldn't like it. I don't know what you need
it for? Snakes and one of those bloody things. I
had one guy who brought so this was during COVID,
so in lockdown. He moved home from overseas and he
brought this old school truck with him. He had paid
to ship it over and it got declined at the border,
and so then he had to pay to store it
(10:32):
at the port. It wasn't allowed to leave the port
because they said it needed to be fumigated for bugs,
and so he had to pay to keep this thing
at the thing until the next time. Someone was available
to come famigate it, which was like a week. Doesn't
everything get fumigated?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I don't think so. God, see's so easy to for
things to.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Get in as Honestly, it blew my mind. It was
so much easier for things to get in than you
would think. Evidently, just judging by the mount of cocaine
you're buying the.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
No when you were working on the ports, because obviously
you're a good, clean living feller, and so no one
want to come and offered you, I'll give you a
couple of hundred grand to lead this through. Yeah, did
anyone from mp I ever get onto you and your
mates and ask you if you've been approached?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
No, kind of like match fixing.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
No.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I wasn't there for long enough, so I wouldn't have
built up enough trust for anyone to be like, all right,
let's go to this guy.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You know, I've got him there quite quick, quite quickly.
Made a lot of money. To look, where did you
get that house from? Don't tug on that thread. Where's
all that? Look? Man? A lot, a lot of a
lot of cash, A lot of boats, a lot of
at the port have got plated.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Harley's all right, A lot of dudes at the ports,
so that so stop fucking tugging on that thread.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Okay, are we going to talk to our mates that
let's do it? Well, not all of them, Let's do
it next.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
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Speaker 2 (12:00):
Adam and Allen from Vivat join us on the podcast today.
Kidd a fellows, Hello, what a pleasant surprise to see YouTube.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Good? Yeah, yeah, you can.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
We address the elephant in the room straight off the rip,
is the reason that Royan's not here because of their
video that we played Jerry just before.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
Absolutely one hundred percent that outside and just turn around
and left.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yeah it was yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I think he's actually.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
Kind of an awe of your whole personality and your
whole vibe and your beauty and so you can.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's going to blush.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Well, he's he told us the story multiple times about
how you guys connected. Was him complimenting your your skin?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
So what skin exactly?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Was it exactly?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Good question?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, Well this is face skin.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, it was face skin. It was definitely face skin.
But I mean, this is this is just it's so
nice for me to hear this because for the longest
time I was looking across it. I mean, Royan is
a man with just impickable skin.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
And Allan and hear and you can.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeh where there's a high level of skin running across
the whole of.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
A high, high bar. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
So you know when when he did, I remember, I
remember the day that.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
That's amazing that it's a memory.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
I remember, I remember.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
But I like the story that he's talking about. I
was always really scared to do it. What a load
of rubbish that was?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
He was you, We were very intimidated.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
We were for people, for people listening who don't know
Alan and Ron worked here at well insid me. It
was in me in those days, was it?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
It was originally TRN then it became inso me. So
I was there for the want the change up.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, Alan was like the original video department.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
I was.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
That was me. What was it called? Just Allen?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
It was cool they had create meal it was before
it was away.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Before then. I didn't have a name. I was just
the video just I was a guy with the camera,
just some guy. Just some guys. We have the guy around. Genuinely,
that was a camera. I had a computer that I
could hit the footage from and that was the entirety
of the video.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
And you were forced out on assignments for the read.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
And I was forced out in assignments. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It was it was cutting each cutting, You're in charge
of that.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
No no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
No, because it was just it was in those days,
it was just Allen and then Roan came along. Yeah,
and they were a duo, but I feel like and
there was just two of them in a room.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yeah, you remember the room. Room. I remember the room.
We we could lock the doors to that room and
just kind of hide. It was this It was this
thing that we could just do like nobody would you
be saying that I don't work here anymore. We were
just kind of like and closer and just hope nobody came.
And that was a big strategy of the video department
before before we had to move flications be in a
(14:47):
more public space.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
You guys did everything.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
We did everything, and that's part of the reason we
wanted to hide was because we we we were very
overworked and very very busy. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
It was quite full on, I think as well. I
think once and he was always cracking the whip on
you guys.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
So it was Matt Heath was Yeah, it was a
brutal task.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
He was he your boss or was he just?
Speaker 8 (15:08):
No?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
The thing is I was intimidated by everybody, So everybody
was kind of my boss. But I had an actual
boss whom I completely forget, who was just kind of
oversaw me. But he wasn't like the video department boss.
It was just the thing, this thing that had been handed.
He was overseeing some other completely different part. And he was,
by the way, video guy. You look after him as well.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I don't understand this.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
And that was literally yeah, and it was a cupboard
and that's why we could hide.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Well, there was a transition before people didn't even want
to see the people who work on radio's faces, Like
nobody ever wanted to see that, and for good reason.
I had a lot of situations and then all of
a sudden that maybe we need to see these people.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
It was.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
It was.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
It was strange getting a video job at a company
called the Radio Network. It was very I was very like,
what am I? What am I doing? He didn't know,
but I was happy to be paid.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I feel like once, I feel
like once we did a show from the inside of
Barry Soaper's bow Tie and we created Barry Soapers.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
That was over there. I was doing other things. I think.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I don't know you were part of that.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
Be sure.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
It was in your it was in your studio. I
remember we were inside and I just remember just I
just hate this hovering over your shoulders.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Yeah, we on you, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were. It's
all coming back. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (16:30):
Is that why you left because there were no there
were Well, I left because we had to make a
decision to jump just just try leave job, job, and
the same thing over at TV, and we were just like,
we have to try and make this work.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
We saw this kind of gradual uphill trajectory of where
we were heading. We're like, if we commit time to this,
I think we can make a real goal.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
How long were you making doing both, like working full
time jobs and making.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
I was a TV and Z for like three and
a half years. You were here for way longer.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I was here for Yeah, five years?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Did I leave?
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I get we were probably doing both like work and
villad for five or six years really, yeah, like it
was just this part time things, just whatever energy had left.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
After literally on the week in the evenings after work
and then on the weekends anything anytime left would be
to Viva.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
And what were you doing at TV?
Speaker 7 (17:28):
And Z I was in the commercials department, dromos and stuff,
not in the promos department. I was in black sand,
but I was doing TV commercials and copper videos and
all that kind of Stufftua, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Gotcha, Okay, So and how did you guys? How did
how did you guys a little bit? How did you
guys meet? And were you friends? And then you decided
you had common interest So we kind of.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
Met through the film industry, just through context that we
knew and U and then through video games. What we
kind of fell in love with each other was playing
StarCraft two games together and bonding over all the games
that we loved. And then it was like, oh, we're
also filmmakers.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah we should do some stuff, right, because.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I think for people who don't know much about Viva
led like you guys started as making videos about video.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Games and still do basic and still do.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, but now you've branched off into a million different
things and have your own studio and making movies and
all sorts. Yeah, that's said before I chip done on that,
so you yeah, very much appreciation.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
It was fifty I thought it was twenty five cents.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
How much do you.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Guys raise for your studio? Was two point six million
US US?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (18:41):
Okay, ended up being four point five newsand yeahbut four
point five.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Yeah, it's bizarre saying that number.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I think that'll blow a lot of people's minds that
aren't in the sort of like don't watch your guys
videos or aren't that online? That that's how because what
was the initial goal? It wasn't that much, was it.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
Well, the way kicks out of works is you hook
people in the smaller goal knowing that you're going to
try to get bigger.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
But the initial goal we need again and we're near
what what we what we got?
Speaker 7 (19:06):
We were the initial goal was one hundred thousand US
and we were hoping to get around maybe five hundred
thousan in US okay, and then ended up getting two
point five.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Genuinely, we were. It was mind blowing. I remember waking
up that the morning because being launched two am or something.
I woke up and I was already at half a
million and being like that was our dream goal and
the community's rallied were so lucky to have.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Wow, So what did you so? You surely you took
the five hundred, just pocketed the wrist of it.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
Just spend.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Pested that up? How does how does that work?
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Though? What? Then? Do you just put that it allowed
us to get a much bigger mortgage?
Speaker 7 (19:51):
Yeah, we literally were Literally all it did was go
on to building the renovating the building. While buying the building,
renovated the building and sets and then Morgan.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
I think we're showing you around the studio too, Yes, today, Yeah,
I can't wait. Yeah, you'll you'll see it that we
really we spent it. The studio was was quite run
down when we first bought it. It wasn't a studio, it
was it just this warehouse that we've kind of cornered
off and made into something much more legit. We've got
established sound stages, there's a full medieval tavern in there.
The green screen is the biggest permanent green screen in Auckland,
(20:23):
I think still ye quisch Mark, Yeah, I think it is,
and we can.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
Way bigger than that one.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Wow, I think that's a tight.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
So how much of your guys time is spent now
creating and making content and how much is the business
part of it? Who does that's? Who does all that crap?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Yeah, essentially a team, we're still actively involved in all
of that. Yeah, And I'd say when we first started out,
we were like ninety ninety five percent was creative and
that the rest was business. And now it's very much
feels like fifty first it's.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
About fifty to fifty. Oh, and we've got a team
that does a lot of business stuff for us try
to although we're I feel like all the creative stuff
we do is more of the long lead, high level creative.
So we're looking into what's the feature film down the road.
We're also developing a video game for far down the
Road like.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Video game already, but there's a video game out there.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I'll work for you guys. I have this place, do
anything I want to make video games? Yeah, hang out
in Tenman's Oh yeah, man, So what are you guys
playing at the moment?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Is obviously still going to be doing a lot of game.
Would you get sick of that?
Speaker 7 (21:33):
I'm deep back into at the moment. Yeah, A twenty
three year old game and I'm hooked again as if
I was thirteen.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Wow, I have kids now game as much. Yeah, it's
really disrupted my life and I'm not going yeah it.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I'm playing pizza PlayStations kids, I'm playing Walk. Oh it's
so good, No idea, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I know I'm just scrapping.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
But you get to fight real good.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, yeah baby, that's so. But you are at the
stage I imagine now, Ellen, where you'll be playing games
with your.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Kids starting to they really, who's my eldest is has
just found the sweatch and start you value with the
may not stardy value with animal crossing crossing. Yeah, it's
the gateway drug is animal crossing?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Okay yea, And.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
Then they're straight into then they're going to get into
roadblocks and you'll lose.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yeah. I don't know much about the red blocks, but
I think you stay away from a box. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
My son's all over that. Yeah, it'll be interesting for you, guys,
because I imagine with kids, you know, as a I'm
you know, I as seem probably and here I'm not a
person who played games very often. I'm not much of
a gamer. I do like it when I do it,
but I don't do it very often. But my son
was really into it, but I was a situation where
he's try and get him to do other things because
(22:55):
it just.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Own right as me as a kid as well.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, but I imagine it will be interesting with you
in your kids because you've made an entire career and
job out of it.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Yeah, because my parents were like, stop playing games, they'll
never serve you, and then I ended up into a career.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Shame.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
But but they're very supportive. Of course they're there, but
they they did see how I did push it a
little bit far when I was a kid, to a
detrimental degree, right, But yeah, I definitely. I guess I
got a different vibe watching kids play where I'm like,
I see the benefit of it at the same time,
and depending on the game, there's obviously just trash games
out there as well, but that's the quality of the
game is good, then.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
At bank games is better than freaking doom scrolling on
your phone.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, the doom scrolling is a hard
thing to get kids away from.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
It's hard to get me away from it.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
My kids are sixteen and fourteen.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Yeah, and how long did you keep phones away from them.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Until they were like I think it was like eleven
or something. Yeah, form like year seven. Yeah right, you
can't really, I'd love to keep it further, like, but
you can't.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
I already see kids and I are going to primary
school with phones. Now, I'm like, that's that's curiating.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Why would you give the phone to a kid early?
That's what I don't understand some parents that are like, oh,
it means that we can keep in touch with you.
It's like that they're either at school or they're at home,
they're friends. It's like, you don't need to worry about that.
But the problem is when they get a bit older,
if you keep it away from them for longer than
they can't, then they start to their friends have a
landline an you also house do they contact.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Their friends and they don't know what's cool because they're
not on the thing and all their friends are talking about.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Hate to their parents and an entire relationship. I don't
know how to do this, man.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
So you guys are doing a thing for mental health,
is that right?
Speaker 9 (24:40):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Doing scrolling?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (24:42):
No, I mean doing scrolling is part of the mental health.
The episodes we've done a bunch of mental health logic
videos in the past, mainly because us guys we love
talking about it amongst ourselves and we think it's super
important to talk about mental health. And we've done a
few before. We've made over like fifteen hundred videos now,
which is absurd and yeah, action well over that. I
(25:02):
think it's nearly two thousand.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Probably, man, just keep cranking them out, we uh, And
we've got conventions from time to time and meet fans
and out of the we've only done a handful of
mental health videos before this this season of mental that
we've done, but more often than not, like fans would
come up to us and the series that they commented
on was that thank you for doing the mental health episodes.
(25:25):
It was a really meant a lot, like overwhelming them out.
We've done like three hundred four episodes of Epic Man
or tech Town and only like single digits of mental health,
and it was like this really really moved us and
motivated us to just do a whole lot more. Yeah,
I feel it's very it's just crazy important to even
just talk about it. We're not trying to like fix anything,
(25:45):
it's just going, hey, this is a thing.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
Yeah, And also talking about it and throw a little
bit of comedy. Interesting, it's kind of being like it's
a thing, and if you can talk about it and
have a little bit of a laugh about it, then
maybe you can feel better conversation, have a conversation and
move towards a better place.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Back just quickly to your content. What's the most viewed things?
What's what's the most viewed piece of content that you
guys have produced? So can I take guess that the
most viewed series?
Speaker 7 (26:10):
You wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Okay, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
You won't be able to get it.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
You won't be able to get piece of content.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
No, I won't.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
But the series that's n PC Man probably be the biggest,
is it?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
That'd be the biggest?
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Yeah? Yeah, And then I would say average out probably
that'll be the biggest.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Yeah, I'm pressed. The pubg Ones has the biggest single video,
but not on verticals, on the normal videos.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I've never played that game, but I watched all the videos.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
Yeah, tell, I mean if you know shooting games at Samoa.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Yeah, the biggest one, though, the biggest.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
One is a weird one. It's from one of our
survival logic videos, right, which is a play on kind
of like Minecraft and Rust and all of those kind
of games as me pretending to be camp mum and
like a little penny and talking like ad come on kids,
let's go and let you know, let's go kill the
zombies and going to bite mom. Yeah, we fixed that
(27:07):
and it's got like four hundred million something something stupid iculous. Yes, yeah, yeah, yes, it.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Was that one when you made it where you're like, yep,
bang it or were you just like I don't know, I.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Did for a while, try to. I think this one's
and you just can't just dribble out on YouTube, you
like damn, and then you release one that's just two
people having a cont normal conversation and it just goes
the connects or something.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
We learned that lesson a long time time, like one day,
literally on one day, we made this really high quality
music video which we were so proud of and we
thought was going to go gangbusters on YouTube, and we
had a little bit of spare time in that day,
so we also spent about half an hour making a
video where Ron gets angry at me and smashes the phone,
and that one went significantly more viral. Crazy days and
(27:58):
days and days we spent.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
The big one for me was The Last of Us,
the game The Last of Us, which is a PlayStation
exclusive that just like was my favorite game ever. And
we spent an entire day on one sketch because I
was pushing for it, because I was like, I know
this and just got nothing. I was like, I am
never taking the initiative every again.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Okay, So, so the learnings there are it's impossible to pick.
There must be something that you can work out that
doesn't work or I mean.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Some people cathm, there's some people can. It's just hard.
There are like some safer bits. I think it's safe
for us now to keep making out like the comfort
food content I've picking. We know those will just be
well received. But I think as a general rule, it's
impossible to to pick what's gonna what's gonna go well?
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah, well, we can pick things that aren't going to
go well, and we put a lot of those out.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Yeah, good only for keep grinding.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
It's a matter of time. It's a matter of time.
That's specially. Hey, thanks very much for coming in. Guys.
It's great and so stoked for your successes. Keep doing
what you're doing. People are very proud of you and
if any.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Jobs pop up, just just don't forget that too, Dolls.
We have not forgotten, yeah man, Jerry and Manyah.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey, later on we're going to be chatting to Ellen
Morrison and Adam King from the very like basically the
superstars of Beava Dirt League. They mess of everywhere in
the world.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah, they're huge. So they do online videos. They started
basically taking the pass out of video.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Games, and then.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
There's all sorts of skets and they do live They
made a movie and it's all basically been funded by
the audience. So yeah, that's pretty cool. Millions of they've
got millions of subscribers, yeah, millions, and in their own
studio Outweist, yeah, which was funded by their followers. By me,
I think I think they funded like two point six
million or something. It was quite a lot. I think
(00:51):
I think I donated about two dollars fifty, did you. Yeah,
good for you all ahead at the time, man, But yeah,
be good to talk to them, SI if they're gonnat
jobs going.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, well Allan and Rowan, we're not talking to Royan,
but Allen and Roan used to be here at this
very very radio station.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yes, I know, and I know they talked about this
on the podcast recently, I think maybe we might play
the audio for them, although the friend's not coming in,
he's the one.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Who said it.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
So, yeah, skin Roman, funny you say that, you know what?
Should we play there? Should we play there?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
But a play now?
Speaker 5 (01:24):
I used to work at Injured Me back in the
day as a cameraman as as cameraman slash editor, as
did Allen. I did, and and Jeremy Wiles would always
be in the building and will pass and I'm looking this,
hee was Jimmy, Well.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
He's a flawless looking here.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
He's one of the most beautiful people on the planet,
that skin man.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
And and I'd always kind of go, I want to
I never know how to kind of get to know
him or just break the ice. Yeah, I'm always just
that little camera man scurrying around.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
And then one day, just by concidence, eyes in the
bathroom and he was also in the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
We both ended up being at the mirror, and I was.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Like, I'm gonna go, this is my chance, this is
a moment, this is the moment. And I was like,
screw take it. And I just said, excuse me, Jeremy,
what is your secret to having such incredible skin and
he just melted.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
He just melted before me. He was.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Into the clip.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Did you melt? I remember that moment. I remember it. Well,
that's Roland there. Yeah, for what, for some reason isn't
going in today. He's not going in. Maybe because he
doesn't want to. He doesn't want to address that. That
bathroom moment would have said, we're going to interview with
you with Jeremy Wells. Oh what day skin guy? Tuesday,
(02:40):
crazy situation with the bathroom. I remember then. I said
to him moisture. Moisture is the track. You need moisture
internally or externally both both. Yeah, I mean moisture externally,
but you're always going to have more moisture internally.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Hydration, well, you do have two separate glasses of water
in front of you right now.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Try to get as much as possible in the firsteen hours.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I've always said the Keida great radio hydration. Rd's got
a drink bottle. Yeah, drinks like.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
A toddler, the sippy cup. The sad thing is I
was just thinking that he drinks from a sippy cup.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
He's gonna tell me, can I get some handles on this?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:18):
Maybe a big nipple on it like a pitch.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
But yes, are on the pint glass. That just makes
me feel home. Yeah, yeah, run a big fan of that.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
We used to talk all the time, by the way, me,
Royan and Allen, we spoke all the time. They're saying
that they're scared to chet to be rubbish. I don't
believe that for a second.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I think later on that podcast said he hated you
as well, So.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I believe that for a second.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
They did actually ask when they pitched this interview, is
Jerry going to be there because we're a little afraid
of him.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah. So it's the skin.
Speaker 7 (03:47):
We'll find out.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
We'll find out hydration. He's so moist.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I'd like them to say something kind about my skin
when they come in place, just quickly before they do
come in though, because we don't need to subject them
to this. We were talking about the cocaine that was
shipped into the country forty eight forty eight bricks and
we're already eight kilogram forty eight kilograms and they're all
one kilogram bricks, and we're always like, does that ring
any alarm?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Bell Sea?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Why or two of them missing? Somebody mentioned it could
be forty eight because everything in bolt comes in multiples
of twelve.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, that's everything. Most things are base twelve. An't Maybe
that's the whole idea, is it base twelve?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I can't write most, but it can be divided into two, three, four,
and six.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
That's why we have the twelve hours and the twelve o'clock, and.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
The same logic for having twelve hours and sixty minutes.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
There we go. It makes sense because you've got to
go quarters and halves. Ten's hopeless. Ten's not visible by three,
for example. I don't know visible by two, but I
mean visible by four. It is, well, it's not three
point three. Yeah, but it's not three point three.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It's three point three through most enough when youre audition
out drugs, you know what I mean. Sure, if you're
building a rocket that needs to go to the moon,
a third's probably a bit of a nightmarish. This is
alwaysier than but fourth is easy to I think, do
you buy a third of a bricker cocaine?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I did, I know. I wouldn't never clue, No, it
never bought a bricker cocaine. But I would also think
that maybe that's got to do with the amount that
they bought it for. I kind of think that maybe
they bought it for let's just say forty eight kilograms,
I don't know, five million or something.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
They said Street Valley is sixteen point eight. You'd have
to think the markup is at least fifty percent. I
reckon throw at three hundred percent. Three hundred percent market,
I think so. So then we're saying a third of
the sixteen point eight. So you're right, So let's say
four point let's call it five. Yep, welcome back to
the start of your own point.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, it's nice to be here, Thanks very much. The
question was back exactly what you were trying to explain
to me. Someone else suggested that it was a it
was a Dequis shipment. Yeah, so someone else suggested that
they would give away forty eight kilograms to bring in
two hundred kilograms somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I can completely see what I used to work the
port and welcome, Welcome to Myni Mouy memories.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Welcome back. I did work at the port for a
period there. You weren't a Steve Adoor by chance. It
was well with a red cape and with bulls rowing
at you.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
That's a metador, not to be confused with a humid
door where you might keep your Cubans cigars.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Or al himidor the tequila.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Or al himid or the tequila, or rotating doors or
sliding doors or ranch sliders or Jim morrissel but I
or corridors Ecuador, not to be confused with the Ecuador or
the Corridor of Uncertainty.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Got to know where you're off stone more door more door.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
One does not simply walk into being a steven door,
all right, although of all the jobs, that is probably
one of the easiest to walk in because for thousands
of years people men have been able to walk into
a port and find work.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Well, what do you do as a steve it or
what does steve it doors actually do? Unload ships? Yeah,
but how do you unload them depends on what's on there,
don't it, Jerry. Generally there'll be.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
A crane or a straddle, or if it's like loose cargo,
you might be able to, like it was pretty loose, dude,
you might do that. Our main thing was we they
would unload the ships or the crane. Then we as
the al steve itdores, we would open them for inspection,
generally by NPI, so they come through and they check
(07:29):
if there's any sort of there's a snake in there,
if there's a spider, if anyone is hiding drugs, and.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
If there's a hidden cavity in the roof of it.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
But for example, let's say there is a forty foot container,
which is the double long ones, real real long ones.
Generally they are twenty the forty ones are quite big.
Now let's say that that is full of, for example, garlic,
boxes of garlic. How the hell are you going to
check whether there's something else thirty feet in there without
pulling it all out. You know, you don't have enough
(07:57):
hours in the day. So basically they just open it,
pull a couple of boxes out, and go hay happy.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Right, So if you're going to plant drugs, so what
you're saying is minight. If you are going to and
put drugs, it would be for all those people out
there that are about to do it, do it. Put
them at the back. I would even just go midway through,
really midway. You wouldn't need to go very far back.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Can you open it from both sides?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Some of them you can, right, some of them you can't. Also, Yeah,
because if you thought there were drugs in there you
could just angle grind one end of it, rip that
thing on.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Wouldn't it be all about where it came from, for example,
if it's coming from Panama or yeah, Colombia or Ecuador,
or you might look at it unel, you might look
a little bit closer.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, one day, because it's all very formal, you know,
there's there's rules and regulations and that. So I would
have to open the container. I open it. The NPI
guy's not allowed to touch anything. I have to do
all of that, and then he just examines it. One day,
we cracked a twenty foot container of I can't remember
(09:00):
what was in it. He lifts his torch up and
he right in front of him was an enormous spider
web with a spider I reckon, almost the size of
my hand. And it was one of these I had
not seen one of these things in New Zealand before.
It was one of those things you might see in
like the Amazon forest or something, the jungle and the jungle.
(09:22):
And he's standing there looking at it, like right in
front of him, with the torch right next to his eyes.
We're looking at him looking at it, and we're just
like buck, how's he going to play this stands there
for a second, debating, and then he just looks down
on his little clipboard and he goes.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yep, it's good.
Speaker 8 (09:45):
We're all like, I'll fuck it out now there, you know,
funnel web. Whatever the hell this exotic spiders? And because
we used to carry kens of just like raid fly
spread and stuff for that kind of thing whenever we
saw that. But he's exotic spiders, yeah, for or domestic spider.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
How do you know exotic spiders go with the spray
of martine. I don't know. I can't imagine. They wouldn't
like it.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
They wouldn't like it. I don't know what you need
it for? Snakes and one of those bloody things. I
had one guy who brought so this was during COVID,
so in lockdown. He moved home from overseas and he
brought this old school truck with him. He had paid
to ship it over and it got declined at the border,
and so then he had to pay to store it
(10:32):
at the port. It wasn't allowed to leave the port
because they said it needed to be fumigated for bugs,
and so he had to pay to keep this thing
at the thing until the next time. Someone was available
to come famigate it, which was like a week. Doesn't
everything get fumigated?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I don't think so. God, see's so easy to for
things to.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Get in as Honestly, it blew my mind. It was
so much easier for things to get in than you
would think. Evidently, just judging by the mount of cocaine
you're buying the.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
No when you were working on the ports, because obviously
you're a good, clean living feller, and so no one
want to come and offered you, I'll give you a
couple of hundred grand to lead this through. Yeah, did
anyone from mp I ever get onto you and your
mates and ask you if you've been approached?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
No, kind of like match fixing.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
No.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I wasn't there for long enough, so I wouldn't have
built up enough trust for anyone to be like, all right,
let's go to this guy.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You know, I've got him there quite quick, quite quickly.
Made a lot of money. To look, where did you
get that house from? Don't tug on that thread. Where's
all that? Look? Man? A lot, a lot of a
lot of cash, A lot of boats, a lot of
at the port have got plated.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Harley's all right, A lot of dudes at the ports,
so that so stop fucking tugging on that thread.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Okay, are we going to talk to our mates that
let's do it? Well, not all of them, Let's do
it next.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Jeremy Wells and Mania Stuart find them on Instagram at
Hodarki Breakfast. Kerri and Manaia joined the complicate the Holdaki
Breakfast discussion group on Facebook for more.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Adam and Allen from Vivat join us on the podcast today.
Kidd a fellows, Hello, what a pleasant surprise to see YouTube.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Good? Yeah, yeah, you can.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
We address the elephant in the room straight off the rip,
is the reason that Royan's not here because of their
video that we played Jerry just before.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
Absolutely one hundred percent that outside and just turn around
and left.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yeah it was yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I think he's actually.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
Kind of an awe of your whole personality and your
whole vibe and your beauty and so you can.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's going to blush.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Well, he's he told us the story multiple times about
how you guys connected. Was him complimenting your your skin?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
So what skin exactly?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Was it exactly?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Good question?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, Well this is face skin.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, it was face skin. It was definitely face skin.
But I mean, this is this is just it's so
nice for me to hear this because for the longest
time I was looking across it. I mean, Royan is
a man with just impickable skin.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
And Allan and hear and you can.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeh where there's a high level of skin running across
the whole of.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
A high, high bar. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
So you know when when he did, I remember, I
remember the day that.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
That's amazing that it's a memory.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
I remember, I remember.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
But I like the story that he's talking about. I
was always really scared to do it. What a load
of rubbish that was?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
He was you, We were very intimidated.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
We were for people, for people listening who don't know
Alan and Ron worked here at well insid me. It
was in me in those days, was it?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
It was originally TRN then it became inso me. So
I was there for the want the change up.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, Alan was like the original video department.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
I was.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
That was me. What was it called? Just Allen?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
It was cool they had create meal it was before
it was away.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Before then. I didn't have a name. I was just
the video just I was a guy with the camera,
just some guy. Just some guys. We have the guy around. Genuinely,
that was a camera. I had a computer that I
could hit the footage from and that was the entirety
of the video.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
And you were forced out on assignments for the read.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
And I was forced out in assignments. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It was it was cutting each cutting, You're in charge
of that.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
No no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
No, because it was just it was in those days,
it was just Allen and then Roan came along. Yeah,
and they were a duo, but I feel like and
there was just two of them in a room.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yeah, you remember the room. Room. I remember the room.
We we could lock the doors to that room and
just kind of hide. It was this It was this
thing that we could just do like nobody would you
be saying that I don't work here anymore. We were
just kind of like and closer and just hope nobody came.
And that was a big strategy of the video department
before before we had to move flications be in a
(14:47):
more public space.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
You guys did everything.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
We did everything, and that's part of the reason we
wanted to hide was because we we we were very
overworked and very very busy. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
It was quite full on, I think as well. I
think once and he was always cracking the whip on
you guys.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
So it was Matt Heath was Yeah, it was a
brutal task.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
He was he your boss or was he just?
Speaker 8 (15:08):
No?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
The thing is I was intimidated by everybody, So everybody
was kind of my boss. But I had an actual
boss whom I completely forget, who was just kind of
oversaw me. But he wasn't like the video department boss.
It was just the thing, this thing that had been handed.
He was overseeing some other completely different part. And he was,
by the way, video guy. You look after him as well.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I don't understand this.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
And that was literally yeah, and it was a cupboard
and that's why we could hide.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Well, there was a transition before people didn't even want
to see the people who work on radio's faces, Like
nobody ever wanted to see that, and for good reason.
I had a lot of situations and then all of
a sudden that maybe we need to see these people.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
It was.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
It was.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
It was strange getting a video job at a company
called the Radio Network. It was very I was very like,
what am I? What am I doing? He didn't know,
but I was happy to be paid.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I feel like once, I feel
like once we did a show from the inside of
Barry Soaper's bow Tie and we created Barry Soapers.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
That was over there. I was doing other things. I think.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I don't know you were part of that.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
Be sure.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
It was in your it was in your studio. I
remember we were inside and I just remember just I
just hate this hovering over your shoulders.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Yeah, we on you, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were. It's
all coming back. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (16:30):
Is that why you left because there were no there
were Well, I left because we had to make a
decision to jump just just try leave job, job, and
the same thing over at TV, and we were just like,
we have to try and make this work.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
We saw this kind of gradual uphill trajectory of where
we were heading. We're like, if we commit time to this,
I think we can make a real goal.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
How long were you making doing both, like working full
time jobs and making.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
I was a TV and Z for like three and
a half years. You were here for way longer.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I was here for Yeah, five years?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Did I leave?
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I get we were probably doing both like work and
villad for five or six years really, yeah, like it
was just this part time things, just whatever energy had left.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
After literally on the week in the evenings after work
and then on the weekends anything anytime left would be
to Viva.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
And what were you doing at TV?
Speaker 7 (17:28):
And Z I was in the commercials department, dromos and stuff,
not in the promos department. I was in black sand,
but I was doing TV commercials and copper videos and
all that kind of Stufftua, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Gotcha, Okay, So and how did you guys? How did
how did you guys a little bit? How did you
guys meet? And were you friends? And then you decided
you had common interest So we kind of.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
Met through the film industry, just through context that we
knew and U and then through video games. What we
kind of fell in love with each other was playing
StarCraft two games together and bonding over all the games
that we loved. And then it was like, oh, we're
also filmmakers.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah we should do some stuff, right, because.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I think for people who don't know much about Viva
led like you guys started as making videos about video.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Games and still do basic and still do.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, but now you've branched off into a million different
things and have your own studio and making movies and
all sorts. Yeah, that's said before I chip done on that,
so you yeah, very much appreciation.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
It was fifty I thought it was twenty five cents.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
How much do you.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Guys raise for your studio? Was two point six million
US US?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (18:41):
Okay, ended up being four point five newsand yeahbut four
point five.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Yeah, it's bizarre saying that number.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I think that'll blow a lot of people's minds that
aren't in the sort of like don't watch your guys
videos or aren't that online? That that's how because what
was the initial goal? It wasn't that much, was it.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
Well, the way kicks out of works is you hook
people in the smaller goal knowing that you're going to
try to get bigger.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
But the initial goal we need again and we're near
what what we what we got?
Speaker 7 (19:06):
We were the initial goal was one hundred thousand US
and we were hoping to get around maybe five hundred
thousan in US okay, and then ended up getting two
point five.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Genuinely, we were. It was mind blowing. I remember waking
up that the morning because being launched two am or something.
I woke up and I was already at half a
million and being like that was our dream goal and
the community's rallied were so lucky to have.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Wow, So what did you so? You surely you took
the five hundred, just pocketed the wrist of it.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
Just spend.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Pested that up? How does how does that work?
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Though? What? Then? Do you just put that it allowed
us to get a much bigger mortgage?
Speaker 7 (19:51):
Yeah, we literally were Literally all it did was go
on to building the renovating the building. While buying the building,
renovated the building and sets and then Morgan.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
I think we're showing you around the studio too, Yes, today, Yeah,
I can't wait. Yeah, you'll you'll see it that we
really we spent it. The studio was was quite run
down when we first bought it. It wasn't a studio, it
was it just this warehouse that we've kind of cornered
off and made into something much more legit. We've got
established sound stages, there's a full medieval tavern in there.
The green screen is the biggest permanent green screen in Auckland,
(20:23):
I think still ye quisch Mark, Yeah, I think it is,
and we can.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
Way bigger than that one.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Wow, I think that's a tight.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
So how much of your guys time is spent now
creating and making content and how much is the business
part of it? Who does that's? Who does all that crap?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Yeah, essentially a team, we're still actively involved in all
of that. Yeah, And I'd say when we first started out,
we were like ninety ninety five percent was creative and
that the rest was business. And now it's very much
feels like fifty first it's.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
About fifty to fifty. Oh, and we've got a team
that does a lot of business stuff for us try
to although we're I feel like all the creative stuff
we do is more of the long lead, high level creative.
So we're looking into what's the feature film down the road.
We're also developing a video game for far down the
Road like.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Video game already, but there's a video game out there.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I'll work for you guys. I have this place, do
anything I want to make video games? Yeah, hang out
in Tenman's Oh yeah, man, So what are you guys
playing at the moment?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Is obviously still going to be doing a lot of game.
Would you get sick of that?
Speaker 7 (21:33):
I'm deep back into at the moment. Yeah, A twenty
three year old game and I'm hooked again as if
I was thirteen.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Wow, I have kids now game as much. Yeah, it's
really disrupted my life and I'm not going yeah it.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I'm playing pizza PlayStations kids, I'm playing Walk. Oh it's
so good, No idea, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I know I'm just scrapping.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
But you get to fight real good.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, yeah baby, that's so. But you are at the
stage I imagine now, Ellen, where you'll be playing games
with your.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Kids starting to they really, who's my eldest is has
just found the sweatch and start you value with the
may not stardy value with animal crossing crossing. Yeah, it's
the gateway drug is animal crossing?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Okay yea, And.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
Then they're straight into then they're going to get into
roadblocks and you'll lose.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yeah. I don't know much about the red blocks, but
I think you stay away from a box. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
My son's all over that. Yeah, it'll be interesting for you, guys,
because I imagine with kids, you know, as a I'm
you know, I as seem probably and here I'm not a
person who played games very often. I'm not much of
a gamer. I do like it when I do it,
but I don't do it very often. But my son
was really into it, but I was a situation where
he's try and get him to do other things because
(22:55):
it just.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Own right as me as a kid as well.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, but I imagine it will be interesting with you
in your kids because you've made an entire career and
job out of it.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Yeah, because my parents were like, stop playing games, they'll
never serve you, and then I ended up into a career.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Shame.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
But but they're very supportive. Of course they're there, but
they they did see how I did push it a
little bit far when I was a kid, to a
detrimental degree, right, But yeah, I definitely. I guess I
got a different vibe watching kids play where I'm like,
I see the benefit of it at the same time,
and depending on the game, there's obviously just trash games
out there as well, but that's the quality of the
game is good, then.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
At bank games is better than freaking doom scrolling on
your phone.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, the doom scrolling is a hard
thing to get kids away from.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
It's hard to get me away from it.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
My kids are sixteen and fourteen.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Yeah, and how long did you keep phones away from them.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Until they were like I think it was like eleven
or something. Yeah, form like year seven. Yeah right, you
can't really, I'd love to keep it further, like, but
you can't.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
I already see kids and I are going to primary
school with phones. Now, I'm like, that's that's curiating.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Why would you give the phone to a kid early?
That's what I don't understand some parents that are like, oh,
it means that we can keep in touch with you.
It's like that they're either at school or they're at home,
they're friends. It's like, you don't need to worry about that.
But the problem is when they get a bit older,
if you keep it away from them for longer than
they can't, then they start to their friends have a
landline an you also house do they contact.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Their friends and they don't know what's cool because they're
not on the thing and all their friends are talking about.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Hate to their parents and an entire relationship. I don't
know how to do this, man.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
So you guys are doing a thing for mental health,
is that right?
Speaker 9 (24:40):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Doing scrolling?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (24:42):
No, I mean doing scrolling is part of the mental health.
The episodes we've done a bunch of mental health logic
videos in the past, mainly because us guys we love
talking about it amongst ourselves and we think it's super
important to talk about mental health. And we've done a
few before. We've made over like fifteen hundred videos now,
which is absurd and yeah, action well over that. I
(25:02):
think it's nearly two thousand.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Probably, man, just keep cranking them out, we uh, And
we've got conventions from time to time and meet fans
and out of the we've only done a handful of
mental health videos before this this season of mental that
we've done, but more often than not, like fans would
come up to us and the series that they commented
on was that thank you for doing the mental health episodes.
(25:25):
It was a really meant a lot, like overwhelming them out.
We've done like three hundred four episodes of Epic Man
or tech Town and only like single digits of mental health,
and it was like this really really moved us and
motivated us to just do a whole lot more. Yeah,
I feel it's very it's just crazy important to even
just talk about it. We're not trying to like fix anything,
(25:45):
it's just going, hey, this is a thing.
Speaker 7 (25:47):
Yeah, And also talking about it and throw a little
bit of comedy. Interesting, it's kind of being like it's
a thing, and if you can talk about it and
have a little bit of a laugh about it, then
maybe you can feel better conversation, have a conversation and
move towards a better place.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Back just quickly to your content. What's the most viewed things?
What's what's the most viewed piece of content that you
guys have produced? So can I take guess that the
most viewed series?
Speaker 7 (26:10):
You wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Okay, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
You won't be able to get it.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
You won't be able to get piece of content.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
No, I won't.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
But the series that's n PC Man probably be the biggest,
is it?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
That'd be the biggest?
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Yeah? Yeah, And then I would say average out probably
that'll be the biggest.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Yeah, I'm pressed. The pubg Ones has the biggest single video,
but not on verticals, on the normal videos.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I've never played that game, but I watched all the videos.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
Yeah, tell, I mean if you know shooting games at Samoa.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Yeah, the biggest one, though, the biggest.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
One is a weird one. It's from one of our
survival logic videos, right, which is a play on kind
of like Minecraft and Rust and all of those kind
of games as me pretending to be camp mum and
like a little penny and talking like ad come on kids,
let's go and let you know, let's go kill the
zombies and going to bite mom. Yeah, we fixed that
(27:07):
and it's got like four hundred million something something stupid iculous. Yes, yeah, yeah, yes, it.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Was that one when you made it where you're like, yep,
bang it or were you just like I don't know, I.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Did for a while, try to. I think this one's
and you just can't just dribble out on YouTube, you
like damn, and then you release one that's just two
people having a cont normal conversation and it just goes
the connects or something.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
We learned that lesson a long time time, like one day,
literally on one day, we made this really high quality
music video which we were so proud of and we
thought was going to go gangbusters on YouTube, and we
had a little bit of spare time in that day,
so we also spent about half an hour making a
video where Ron gets angry at me and smashes the phone,
and that one went significantly more viral. Crazy days and
(27:58):
days and days we spent.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
The big one for me was The Last of Us,
the game The Last of Us, which is a PlayStation
exclusive that just like was my favorite game ever. And
we spent an entire day on one sketch because I
was pushing for it, because I was like, I know
this and just got nothing. I was like, I am
never taking the initiative every again.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Okay, So, so the learnings there are it's impossible to pick.
There must be something that you can work out that
doesn't work or I mean.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Some people cathm, there's some people can. It's just hard.
There are like some safer bits. I think it's safe
for us now to keep making out like the comfort
food content I've picking. We know those will just be
well received. But I think as a general rule, it's
impossible to to pick what's gonna what's gonna go well?
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah, well, we can pick things that aren't going to
go well, and we put a lot of those out.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Yeah, good only for keep grinding.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
It's a matter of time. It's a matter of time.
That's specially. Hey, thanks very much for coming in. Guys.
It's great and so stoked for your successes. Keep doing
what you're doing. People are very proud of you and
if any.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Jobs pop up, just just don't forget that too, Dolls.
We have not forgotten, yeah man, Jerry and Manyah.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
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