May 17, 2026 • 18 mins
Today on the pod the guys talk about the Civic theatre, Val Kilmer, Val Morgan, and Fat Freddie's Drop.
Plus who is Riki Gooch?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Daily bespoke content that you won't find on the radio
show The Hurdarki Breakfast Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome along to the podcast. Monday, the eighteenth of May
twenty twenty, SAX turned you down fraction the jury. Sorry
about that. No, no, that's okay, it's not your fault.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I was I was out with Preebs last night, out
at Fat Freddy's. Drop were you for abat midnight? You
know what it gets like when you're with Prebs.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Oh, I've been out with PRIs a couple of times
and Jesus goes, Jeesy goes had, Yeah, you're worse for
We're the next day. There's no off switch wear.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Oh, he's just all got. What you see is what
you get. Yeah with Prebs and yeah, man, the miss
has been out for dinner, watched the wires, went to
Fat Freddy's and then as we're walking in, she gets
on Prebs is here.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah you know what this? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Shots on, yeah, shots on, shots on arrival Sunday night.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, Sunday No, no, no, we're doing.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
There's more bloody time than the toilets. And he does watch.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Tell you what seated seated Fat Freddy's gig.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You know what he's like, office rocker, off his absolute rocker.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Strange crowd, Yeah, strange crowd at a seated Sunday night
Fat Fridday's gig.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I would have thought Middle New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, yeah, it was a funny. It was a funny
patchwork of what Fat Freddy's meant to different parts of
New Zealand, you know, because they are now quite an
old band, but that's still putting music out. So last
night's crowd was you know, if you've bought tickets to
us sit sitting down Fat Freddy's gig on a Sunday night,
that says you know a little bit about you, you know,
(01:40):
I think because they also played Friday and Saturday at
the town Hall, so if you wanted to go down
to mosh with the young Gohards, you could do that
on Friday Saturday.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well where did they play last night? Which sat down
Fat Fridday's at the Civic. It was weird. It was weird.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I could have made it a been good if I
had made it weirder for myself, you know what I mean?
Because that place, the Civic is sane. If anyone's not
been there, it's it's a giant theater, like where they
do what's the one with Queen Elizabeth would go and
sit there and watch the Royal.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
The Royal Variety Royal.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Well, yeah, it's like that, I remember, and Statler and
Waldorf would sit up in the thing that. It's got
those booths and then there's like the night sky stars
are in the in the ceiling. It's got some ridiculous
amount of elephant sculptures and everywhere you goes the elephants.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
He has a weird kind of Indian vibe to it,
which is quite unusual considering it was built in the
nineteen thirties, post depression. My grandfather's one of the people
on the plasters that built the kind of a job. Yeah,
big job, big job. But he's very proud of it.
Like when you we'd go in there together, he always
been telling me about a little bits and pieces of it.
He should be proud of it. So that was built
(03:00):
by Fletchers in the nineteen thirties. First really big yeah,
first really big public works job by Fletchers.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
It's a cool spot. You can just keep walking around.
It's amaze. Yeah, and then you walk past these stairs
and then all of a sudden there's another bar there.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
You be in to the window garden downstairs. Yeah, I
don't know, very cool.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
The downstairs is amazing. On that place.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Downstairs, it's like this, it's a wonderland. I mean it's
the wind land. No, the winder garden, the window garden.
But it's well it's like the upstairs really but downstairs
and kind of cooler with cool lighting. Yeah, that's a
really really cool spot.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I mean, I don't know how I've been there two
or three times.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Kaye Bell played there.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
We went and watched a fucking stage player of years ago.
That top three I was on the top one of
the top three hangovers of my life. I think it
was after like a radio awards or something, and I
came to work and then the missus one tickets to
war Horse the stage play.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah Horse, the stage play. Yeah, the musical.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, I guess it was as it was to be
fear that the songs were few and far between, but
it was a musical, and I was like, oh fuck,
I honestly I can't sit through stage productions.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Was there are any live horses? No?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
No, not live horses. They had a giant puppet horse.
The horse grew up. I believe in front of your eyes,
and they had it was a fole. There was a
one man operation. Then it came out as a horse.
At one point it was fucking enormous. There's like five
dudes men in this horse, the big hog on it.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Never deployed the hog, Maley, I actually never. I don't know.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I guess they kept the sort of gender neutral.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I think it was a male in the movie. I
remember seeing the movie and being quite quite golden. I
don't remember, man, I just remember being upset because bloody
horse died.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Boiler Jesus mate. And there's a lot of people listening here
that we're just about to go up and see that.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
You go watch horse, poor horse man.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
That was just a lot of horses back in the day.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeahs fucking here in that movie.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But anyways, so I'm sitting through that show. I got
one of the top three hangars. I tried to drink
my way out of it at lunchtime here at radio
Hiroki couldn't do it. And the message comes to pick
me outre.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
You excited for this thing? Yeah? Man, there is such
a that's such a trick. That's right there. Ye hangover
as how I can't be asked on the pace, but
we're sitting there.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
It was I could at the time, I could like
understand that it was amazing, but I just really didn't
want to be there. I was sitting there looking at
it like, oh, yeah, they've done They've done really well.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
That's a great show.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
But fu.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
And was sitting there and then the lights come up
and I go, alright, not too bad shot cruise.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
She goes, that's half time. I was like, oh no, yeah,
I was so half time. A half time you say, look,
I'm just gonna nip away. I've got a Grade five
hangover here. Fuck no, I stay through the second half.
Could you sleep? No, I couldn't sleep. Oh no, I
(06:24):
just I just white knuckled it through the rest of
that though. Too bad. I slipped through Cats that was pific. Yeah, yeah,
I've set through like oh, I feel like I've slipped
through a couple of ones at pacificatly back in the day,
you said, vinyl seats, that was really hard to sleep on.
(06:45):
You uncomfortable, little vinyl seats from the thirties. Don't think
they changed them. They're not vinyl anymore. Some sort of
very situation he used to have a tiny little screen.
You'd always go, like when you're a kidd, you look
at the movie theater that you're going and go to.
There might be the Regent Saint James, the odeon mid
City and that came along in the nineteen eighties. That
(07:07):
was pretty flash. But then you look at the civic
and bugger again. The civic it's more about the theater
than it is the screen. The screen will be this
tiny little screen miles sound that sounded like was coming through.
You know those speakers that used to get house speakers,
you know, back in the old days, and that sort
(07:27):
of wooden and they're about sort of a meter high.
Create some those. It would be like six of those
basically for the whole civic there.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Do you remember what kind of movies you were watching
that what nineteen eighties at the civic there, Jerry.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I feel like I saw Beaches at the Civic and
I remember at the beginning of it. They remember hearing
the song for the first time breakout, but it was
like great song. Yeah, but unfortunately you through those civics speakers.
(08:18):
They used to play music videos at the beginning of
reason those days. Yeah, for a bit of a time,
waste of time? Is it before Val Morgan revolutionized the advertising?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Shout out to Val Morgan?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
What does she up to? Val? Yeah? Val Morgan? What
did you think it was a guy? Is that sexes
to me? Yeah? Valerie Morgan? Is that sexes to me?
Morgan is a guy? Why would he be? Are you
thinking like Valentine Holmes? Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I didn't think Val Kilmer.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
There, thank you, ol short for with Val Kelma Reder.
Can you do a little bit of sure.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
I'm just I'm really proud of myself because I have
never in my life gendered Val Morgan.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I'm so happy I was very progressive of you. Oh
you thought Val Morgan was a woman.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I never thought of Val Morgan as a man or
a woman.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Oh woman? Yeah, I definitely I thought a man.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Now the only thing that can save me in this
situation is if he actually was a man.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
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Speaker 4 (09:32):
Val Kilmer short foot Val Kilmer.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Okay, well that's just his name. It's quite a cool
named val from guy isn't now that's he comes? Well?
Can you look up val Morgan? Can you look at
Val Wells? Valerie? Valerie Wellerie? Val Morgan was.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Am eighteen ninety four, blah blah blast did the test
of time?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Who is val Morgan? Who is he's going to be
a man? Who's Ville Morgan? When a man? If it's
a company that started in eighteen ninety four?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Val Valentine, Male Morgan, Valentine.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
He's done it. Yeah, he's done it.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
He's done it and bailed me out again.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I was thinking, vow was val May Morgan? A woman? See?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, well that really bailed me out of a sixth
situation on a Monday morning.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
That's not what I wanted.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
We had the I shout out to the guy that
kept walking.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Man.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
We were sitting right at the end of our aisle
and yeah, sit down. One guy got up about four times.
He's pretty heavily on the purse, and that was fine,
it will pass like whatever. Fine, we're going out of
the way as best we could.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
He kicked my beer over twice. That kind of passed
me off, but it wasn't really his fault. Well it was, no,
you can't have your beer sitting down on the ground
working pass.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
No, but then they don't have a couple, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Then I'll get hold it, hold it and turn the
leads to the side and like you're opposing for a
knitball photo in the nineteen sixties or I'm riding a
horse side settle.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, but I but the problem was every time he
walked past, he'd do this big song and dance of
apologizing to everyone, and so then he's just standing there
in front of you, apologizing to you for standing in
front of you. I was like, that's all, good man,
just how to fuck up?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, I started it real. I was about to throw
off the balcony at one point, to be honest. So
you're on the belk, you're in the balcony area, Yeah,
you're in the circle. You're up in the circle. Yeah, yeah, gotcha?
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Circle downstairs? Jerry, Okay, that's the stools downstairs. I got
that one.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Do you guys get through that m in there?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
I got Val Morgan, right, No, I didn't, you got it?
I didn't anyway.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So, so did you know a lot of the songs
the Fat Freddy's Gig? Yeah? They might be my favorite band.
Of all time. Oh really, yeah, everywhere to every single
Oh cool.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
But interestingly, because of course there, I don't know how
he would describe sort of the heartbeat of the band.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
DJ move Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
He no longer with us, has passed away but a
year or so ago, and he if you been living
under rock was the was the heart and soul fat
for his They didn't have a bass player or any
percussion because he played it all off this machine called
an NPC, which is one of the early sampling sort
of situations. That's how they started. It was just him
(12:30):
playing live gigs off that thing. And then eventually no
and then and then they, you know, just sort of
accumulated all these incredible musicians from around Wellington.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
The horn section, then there's the keys guy.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
And the singer who didn't really sing, you know, kind
of sung some parts of it. They were just ten
minute jams that never really.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Had any words to them.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
And so then for him to be gone, I was
really interested to see how it was going to go.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
What do they how do they do it? And it's got.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
They've got a bass guitarist and a drummer now like
a like a normal band, which obviously changes the dynamic
in a couple of ways. I think one of them
is live drums is way better. But there's something about
live drums. Whatever band, even if you're like a hip
hop act and you generally you know, wrap to a
track of some sort, having live drums in the background
really really changes it.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
They're doing a lot more live drumming nowadays.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I've noticed, Yeah, it really Yeah, there's something about it,
and I don't know what it is, but live drums
in particular.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So that was good.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
And the Bassis Bassis played both bass. He played a
like an electric bass double bass, and then hit a
little keyboard gun as well.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
So yeah, it was it was good. It was different.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Back in the early two thousands, they did a live
album live at the Roundhouse, and they had a drummer,
Ricky Gooch's name, played.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
For the what are they called the Southern Steel.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
He played for the Southern Steel. He was a wing defence,
a nacious ring defense.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Solar for He was hard.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
He organized the Yeah, he called him the wall phenomen
There's nothing to be found down that side of the court.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
He had zone defense. He was the initiator of zone defense.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
You're playing the six women on the other team. At
that point he just shouts out the whole thing now,
and I remember really controversial in Southland for a man
to be playing for the women's nipple team at the time.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
He got seen top about four or five times. Brutal.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah, well just I wouldn't say he was more physical
than any of the other players, but it just stood
out a bit more to have a man running around
on him.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
You could see it underneath the nipple skirt, came.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Through the bottom dangler they called him, and he yeah,
terrorized the bab plan in Magic that and then he
went on tour with Fat Freddie's and I used to
listen to the album every day at the Freezing Works.
They sound great with the drummer and I always thought
I'd love to see them with the drummer.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Well, last night I've got to do that. It's good.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Shout out to the guy in front of me. He's
just like, you're not at major ground. They've seen Jason Hoyd.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
What of theys in him? So you've seen the game
by that stage, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah earlier. I'm sure
we'll get into it on the show. Yeah a few times, probably.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yeah, a few times, and then we'll get told off
for talking about it too much, and then we'll be
told to address it the next day.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
It was good having that all the way right at
the end of the weekend. I was just gave me
someone to look forward to all the way to the
end of the weekend.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, and I loved real drama.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
In two weeks, you're going to have the Panthers at
eight o'clock on a Sunday night, So that's the whole weekend.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
That's a bit too late. It's too late. It's too late,
eight fifteen. I prefer that that's sex. Yeah, sex is
really good.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Sex was right on the sweet spot for sex is
nice because the game before that you can forget.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
You can miss that one four o'clocker unless you really
got it targeted. Yeah, I struggled.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
So, so we're going to Fat Friddies last night, and
I was like, there must be somewhere in town we
can go and watch the game, then walk to the
gig and then probably was if we went down to
the viaduct, but we didn't want to walk that far.
But in the end we just started walking up Queen Street. Thought,
surely some little bit of bars. No, it's nothing, not.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
On Queen Street absolutely, So few bars on Queen Street now, yeah,
it's all like two dollar shops and stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I think COVID really killed Queen Street and Auckland. So
we ended up walking all the way to the Occidental.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Oh that's cool, like gigs there. Oh yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Man, back in the day, Vulcan Lane just hummed. Yeah,
that was the That was the center. That was the heartbeat,
the center of the heart. Yes, right there and the
and the corner of Vulcan Lane and High Street. Was that,
in my opinion, the center of Auckland. Yeah, it was.
It was amazing. All the bars, there was lots of restaurants.
(17:01):
On a Friday night, that was the that was the
really yeah, as of most people that you'd see.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
But busy enough last night, I will say when we
got there, because we were a little bit early than
most than the dinner crowd, so we were the first
people through the door. But by the time, by about
halftime in that Warriors game was packed.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Oh yeah, okay, which is good. That's good. I went
back there not long ago to go and get some
glasses from Sunglass bar. There's a lot of sunglass shops,
a lot of sunglass shops and I biked in because
if you drive your car and you're very likely to
be fined, so you can't go down certain roads. Don't
even know what the roads are, and it's like one lane.
(17:41):
It's confusing. It was great to bike then, that's for sure,
but there were way more people. I thought, Oh, yeah,
I think it's coming back. Yeah, I think it is.
I think it's coming back. I think people are slowly
coming back here. And well maybe by the time people
start to realize they can go back, they'll have to
redo the city again because it'll look old and teddy.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I think that the first thing is make that a
walking only spot. The second thing is so a straight
back more or less were you're describing. There's a little
square around there and.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
F Iburg Square. Uh yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
And as we were walking past it last night, the
unhoused community were there's like a mobile laundry the years
they have pulled up there on a Sunday night.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Oh that's good. And the unhoused community we were all
washing their clothes in it. Oh, I thought, are you talking,
are you joking? You're talking about it the fountain?
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Oh no, no, no, no, they weren't glaning their dog
shit over that shit. There's an actual mobile laundry thing.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Thank god for this, a good idea. The mobile lawnch.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Scores of unhoused in there. Man, that's the spot. Yeah,
what's going on? Yeah, what's going I'm.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Going to do that actually yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome along to the podcast. Monday, the eighteenth of May
twenty twenty, SAX turned you down fraction the jury. Sorry
about that. No, no, that's okay, it's not your fault.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I was I was out with Preebs last night, out
at Fat Freddy's. Drop were you for abat midnight? You
know what it gets like when you're with Prebs.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Oh, I've been out with PRIs a couple of times
and Jesus goes, Jeesy goes had, Yeah, you're worse for
We're the next day. There's no off switch wear.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Oh, he's just all got. What you see is what
you get. Yeah with Prebs and yeah, man, the miss
has been out for dinner, watched the wires, went to
Fat Freddy's and then as we're walking in, she gets
on Prebs is here.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah you know what this? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Shots on, yeah, shots on, shots on arrival Sunday night.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, Sunday No, no, no, we're doing.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
There's more bloody time than the toilets. And he does watch.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Tell you what seated seated Fat Freddy's gig.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You know what he's like, office rocker, off his absolute rocker.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Strange crowd, Yeah, strange crowd at a seated Sunday night
Fat Fridday's gig.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I would have thought Middle New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, yeah, it was a funny. It was a funny
patchwork of what Fat Freddy's meant to different parts of
New Zealand, you know, because they are now quite an
old band, but that's still putting music out. So last
night's crowd was you know, if you've bought tickets to
us sit sitting down Fat Freddy's gig on a Sunday night,
that says you know a little bit about you, you know,
(01:40):
I think because they also played Friday and Saturday at
the town Hall, so if you wanted to go down
to mosh with the young Gohards, you could do that
on Friday Saturday.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well where did they play last night? Which sat down
Fat Fridday's at the Civic. It was weird. It was weird.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I could have made it a been good if I
had made it weirder for myself, you know what I mean?
Because that place, the Civic is sane. If anyone's not
been there, it's it's a giant theater, like where they
do what's the one with Queen Elizabeth would go and
sit there and watch the Royal.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
The Royal Variety Royal.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Well, yeah, it's like that, I remember, and Statler and
Waldorf would sit up in the thing that. It's got
those booths and then there's like the night sky stars
are in the in the ceiling. It's got some ridiculous
amount of elephant sculptures and everywhere you goes the elephants.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
He has a weird kind of Indian vibe to it,
which is quite unusual considering it was built in the
nineteen thirties, post depression. My grandfather's one of the people
on the plasters that built the kind of a job. Yeah,
big job, big job. But he's very proud of it.
Like when you we'd go in there together, he always
been telling me about a little bits and pieces of it.
He should be proud of it. So that was built
(03:00):
by Fletchers in the nineteen thirties. First really big yeah,
first really big public works job by Fletchers.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
It's a cool spot. You can just keep walking around.
It's amaze. Yeah, and then you walk past these stairs
and then all of a sudden there's another bar there.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
You be in to the window garden downstairs. Yeah, I
don't know, very cool.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
The downstairs is amazing. On that place.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Downstairs, it's like this, it's a wonderland. I mean it's
the wind land. No, the winder garden, the window garden.
But it's well it's like the upstairs really but downstairs
and kind of cooler with cool lighting. Yeah, that's a
really really cool spot.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I mean, I don't know how I've been there two
or three times.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Kaye Bell played there.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
We went and watched a fucking stage player of years ago.
That top three I was on the top one of
the top three hangovers of my life. I think it
was after like a radio awards or something, and I
came to work and then the missus one tickets to
war Horse the stage play.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah Horse, the stage play. Yeah, the musical.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, I guess it was as it was to be
fear that the songs were few and far between, but
it was a musical, and I was like, oh fuck,
I honestly I can't sit through stage productions.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Was there are any live horses? No?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
No, not live horses. They had a giant puppet horse.
The horse grew up. I believe in front of your eyes,
and they had it was a fole. There was a
one man operation. Then it came out as a horse.
At one point it was fucking enormous. There's like five
dudes men in this horse, the big hog on it.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Never deployed the hog, Maley, I actually never. I don't know.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I guess they kept the sort of gender neutral.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I think it was a male in the movie. I
remember seeing the movie and being quite quite golden. I
don't remember, man, I just remember being upset because bloody
horse died.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Boiler Jesus mate. And there's a lot of people listening here
that we're just about to go up and see that.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
You go watch horse, poor horse man.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
That was just a lot of horses back in the day.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeahs fucking here in that movie.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But anyways, so I'm sitting through that show. I got
one of the top three hangars. I tried to drink
my way out of it at lunchtime here at radio
Hiroki couldn't do it. And the message comes to pick
me outre.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
You excited for this thing? Yeah? Man, there is such
a that's such a trick. That's right there. Ye hangover
as how I can't be asked on the pace, but
we're sitting there.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
It was I could at the time, I could like
understand that it was amazing, but I just really didn't
want to be there. I was sitting there looking at
it like, oh, yeah, they've done They've done really well.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
That's a great show.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
But fu.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
And was sitting there and then the lights come up
and I go, alright, not too bad shot cruise.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
She goes, that's half time. I was like, oh no, yeah,
I was so half time. A half time you say, look,
I'm just gonna nip away. I've got a Grade five
hangover here. Fuck no, I stay through the second half.
Could you sleep? No, I couldn't sleep. Oh no, I
(06:24):
just I just white knuckled it through the rest of
that though. Too bad. I slipped through Cats that was pific. Yeah, yeah,
I've set through like oh, I feel like I've slipped
through a couple of ones at pacificatly back in the day,
you said, vinyl seats, that was really hard to sleep on.
(06:45):
You uncomfortable, little vinyl seats from the thirties. Don't think
they changed them. They're not vinyl anymore. Some sort of
very situation he used to have a tiny little screen.
You'd always go, like when you're a kidd, you look
at the movie theater that you're going and go to.
There might be the Regent Saint James, the odeon mid
City and that came along in the nineteen eighties. That
(07:07):
was pretty flash. But then you look at the civic
and bugger again. The civic it's more about the theater
than it is the screen. The screen will be this
tiny little screen miles sound that sounded like was coming through.
You know those speakers that used to get house speakers,
you know, back in the old days, and that sort
(07:27):
of wooden and they're about sort of a meter high.
Create some those. It would be like six of those
basically for the whole civic there.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Do you remember what kind of movies you were watching
that what nineteen eighties at the civic there, Jerry.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I feel like I saw Beaches at the Civic and
I remember at the beginning of it. They remember hearing
the song for the first time breakout, but it was
like great song. Yeah, but unfortunately you through those civics speakers.
(08:18):
They used to play music videos at the beginning of
reason those days. Yeah, for a bit of a time,
waste of time? Is it before Val Morgan revolutionized the advertising?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Shout out to Val Morgan?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
What does she up to? Val? Yeah? Val Morgan? What
did you think it was a guy? Is that sexes
to me? Yeah? Valerie Morgan? Is that sexes to me?
Morgan is a guy? Why would he be? Are you
thinking like Valentine Holmes? Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I didn't think Val Kilmer.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
There, thank you, ol short for with Val Kelma Reder.
Can you do a little bit of sure.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
I'm just I'm really proud of myself because I have
never in my life gendered Val Morgan.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I'm so happy I was very progressive of you. Oh
you thought Val Morgan was a woman.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I never thought of Val Morgan as a man or
a woman.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Oh woman? Yeah, I definitely I thought a man.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Now the only thing that can save me in this
situation is if he actually was a man.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
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Speaker 4 (09:32):
Val Kilmer short foot Val Kilmer.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Okay, well that's just his name. It's quite a cool
named val from guy isn't now that's he comes? Well?
Can you look up val Morgan? Can you look at
Val Wells? Valerie? Valerie Wellerie? Val Morgan was.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Am eighteen ninety four, blah blah blast did the test
of time?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Who is val Morgan? Who is he's going to be
a man? Who's Ville Morgan? When a man? If it's
a company that started in eighteen ninety four?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Val Valentine, Male Morgan, Valentine.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
He's done it. Yeah, he's done it.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
He's done it and bailed me out again.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I was thinking, vow was val May Morgan? A woman? See?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, well that really bailed me out of a sixth
situation on a Monday morning.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
That's not what I wanted.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
We had the I shout out to the guy that
kept walking.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Man.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
We were sitting right at the end of our aisle
and yeah, sit down. One guy got up about four times.
He's pretty heavily on the purse, and that was fine,
it will pass like whatever. Fine, we're going out of
the way as best we could.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
He kicked my beer over twice. That kind of passed
me off, but it wasn't really his fault. Well it was, no,
you can't have your beer sitting down on the ground
working pass.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
No, but then they don't have a couple, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Then I'll get hold it, hold it and turn the
leads to the side and like you're opposing for a
knitball photo in the nineteen sixties or I'm riding a
horse side settle.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, but I but the problem was every time he
walked past, he'd do this big song and dance of
apologizing to everyone, and so then he's just standing there
in front of you, apologizing to you for standing in
front of you. I was like, that's all, good man,
just how to fuck up?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, I started it real. I was about to throw
off the balcony at one point, to be honest. So
you're on the belk, you're in the balcony area, Yeah,
you're in the circle. You're up in the circle. Yeah, yeah, gotcha?
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Circle downstairs? Jerry, Okay, that's the stools downstairs. I got
that one.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Do you guys get through that m in there?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
I got Val Morgan, right, No, I didn't, you got it?
I didn't anyway.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So, so did you know a lot of the songs
the Fat Freddy's Gig? Yeah? They might be my favorite band.
Of all time. Oh really, yeah, everywhere to every single
Oh cool.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
But interestingly, because of course there, I don't know how
he would describe sort of the heartbeat of the band.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
DJ move Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
He no longer with us, has passed away but a
year or so ago, and he if you been living
under rock was the was the heart and soul fat
for his They didn't have a bass player or any
percussion because he played it all off this machine called
an NPC, which is one of the early sampling sort
of situations. That's how they started. It was just him
(12:30):
playing live gigs off that thing. And then eventually no
and then and then they, you know, just sort of
accumulated all these incredible musicians from around Wellington.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
The horn section, then there's the keys guy.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
And the singer who didn't really sing, you know, kind
of sung some parts of it. They were just ten
minute jams that never really.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Had any words to them.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
And so then for him to be gone, I was
really interested to see how it was going to go.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
What do they how do they do it? And it's got.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
They've got a bass guitarist and a drummer now like
a like a normal band, which obviously changes the dynamic
in a couple of ways. I think one of them
is live drums is way better. But there's something about
live drums. Whatever band, even if you're like a hip
hop act and you generally you know, wrap to a
track of some sort, having live drums in the background
really really changes it.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
They're doing a lot more live drumming nowadays.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I've noticed, Yeah, it really Yeah, there's something about it,
and I don't know what it is, but live drums
in particular.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So that was good.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
And the Bassis Bassis played both bass. He played a
like an electric bass double bass, and then hit a
little keyboard gun as well.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
So yeah, it was it was good. It was different.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Back in the early two thousands, they did a live
album live at the Roundhouse, and they had a drummer,
Ricky Gooch's name, played.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
For the what are they called the Southern Steel.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
He played for the Southern Steel. He was a wing defence,
a nacious ring defense.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Solar for He was hard.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
He organized the Yeah, he called him the wall phenomen
There's nothing to be found down that side of the court.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
He had zone defense. He was the initiator of zone defense.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
You're playing the six women on the other team. At
that point he just shouts out the whole thing now,
and I remember really controversial in Southland for a man
to be playing for the women's nipple team at the time.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
He got seen top about four or five times. Brutal.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah, well just I wouldn't say he was more physical
than any of the other players, but it just stood
out a bit more to have a man running around
on him.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
You could see it underneath the nipple skirt, came.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Through the bottom dangler they called him, and he yeah,
terrorized the bab plan in Magic that and then he
went on tour with Fat Freddie's and I used to
listen to the album every day at the Freezing Works.
They sound great with the drummer and I always thought
I'd love to see them with the drummer.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Well, last night I've got to do that. It's good.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Shout out to the guy in front of me. He's
just like, you're not at major ground. They've seen Jason Hoyd.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
What of theys in him? So you've seen the game
by that stage, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah earlier. I'm sure
we'll get into it on the show. Yeah a few times, probably.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yeah, a few times, and then we'll get told off
for talking about it too much, and then we'll be
told to address it the next day.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
It was good having that all the way right at
the end of the weekend. I was just gave me
someone to look forward to all the way to the
end of the weekend.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, and I loved real drama.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
In two weeks, you're going to have the Panthers at
eight o'clock on a Sunday night, So that's the whole weekend.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
That's a bit too late. It's too late. It's too late,
eight fifteen. I prefer that that's sex. Yeah, sex is
really good.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Sex was right on the sweet spot for sex is
nice because the game before that you can forget.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
You can miss that one four o'clocker unless you really
got it targeted. Yeah, I struggled.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
So, so we're going to Fat Friddies last night, and
I was like, there must be somewhere in town we
can go and watch the game, then walk to the
gig and then probably was if we went down to
the viaduct, but we didn't want to walk that far.
But in the end we just started walking up Queen Street. Thought,
surely some little bit of bars. No, it's nothing, not.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
On Queen Street absolutely, So few bars on Queen Street now, yeah,
it's all like two dollar shops and stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I think COVID really killed Queen Street and Auckland. So
we ended up walking all the way to the Occidental.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Oh that's cool, like gigs there. Oh yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Man, back in the day, Vulcan Lane just hummed. Yeah,
that was the That was the center. That was the heartbeat,
the center of the heart. Yes, right there and the
and the corner of Vulcan Lane and High Street. Was that,
in my opinion, the center of Auckland. Yeah, it was.
It was amazing. All the bars, there was lots of restaurants.
(17:01):
On a Friday night, that was the that was the
really yeah, as of most people that you'd see.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
But busy enough last night, I will say when we
got there, because we were a little bit early than
most than the dinner crowd, so we were the first
people through the door. But by the time, by about
halftime in that Warriors game was packed.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Oh yeah, okay, which is good. That's good. I went
back there not long ago to go and get some
glasses from Sunglass bar. There's a lot of sunglass shops,
a lot of sunglass shops and I biked in because
if you drive your car and you're very likely to
be fined, so you can't go down certain roads. Don't
even know what the roads are, and it's like one lane.
(17:41):
It's confusing. It was great to bike then, that's for sure,
but there were way more people. I thought, Oh, yeah,
I think it's coming back. Yeah, I think it is.
I think it's coming back. I think people are slowly
coming back here. And well maybe by the time people
start to realize they can go back, they'll have to
redo the city again because it'll look old and teddy.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I think that the first thing is make that a
walking only spot. The second thing is so a straight
back more or less were you're describing. There's a little
square around there and.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
F Iburg Square. Uh yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
And as we were walking past it last night, the
unhoused community were there's like a mobile laundry the years
they have pulled up there on a Sunday night.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Oh that's good. And the unhoused community we were all
washing their clothes in it. Oh, I thought, are you talking,
are you joking? You're talking about it the fountain?
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Oh no, no, no, no, they weren't glaning their dog
shit over that shit. There's an actual mobile laundry thing.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Thank god for this, a good idea. The mobile lawnch.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Scores of unhoused in there. Man, that's the spot. Yeah,
what's going on? Yeah, what's going I'm.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Going to do that actually yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
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