August 11, 2026 • 17 mins
Today on the Pod there is a whole lot of attempts at the south African accents and chat about the All Blacks.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Daily US spoke content that you won't find on the
radio show The hurdar Key Breakfast Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Good morning, Welcome along to the first part of the Cherry,
the first podcast to see the Sun, the first to
see in a new day. This is actually all bullshit
because it's not. No, it's not because we're recording this podcast.
Just a quick look behind the curtain. Because really it
doesn't matter, because when you're listening to the podcast, you
can be listening to the podcast in three years time.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
It's like the Gender Podcast. The start of every single
one of them, Glane insists on saying live from the
Export Beer Garden studio, and every time it makes my
eye towitch because no podcast is live. So we're recording
this at like six thirty right now, sixty eight minutes
Gone Sharks versus the All.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Blacks forty two.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
That's a good response, isn't it. That's what the world's
media is going to be saying. I love those stories
that they have in their held. What did the global
media say about the All Bleaks performances? And my thing
is probably nothing really.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Nah, But we love when overseas outlets talk about us.
We love when foreign countries talk about us.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Some really weird paper in the UK said, yeah, that
no one's ever as were pretty ordinary.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yeah, New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Well, other people in the UK who hate the All
Blacks said.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Yeah, that's what happens, like this guy hates the what's
his name, Stephen.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Stephen Jones said, this is another but another damaging blow
to the Blacks invincibility.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
They won't be winning the World Cup next.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Year All Blacks.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It's only half of them that so this is a
good response. And actually the Quaszulu Natal sharks, the Quasul
Natal sharks playing in the wet se like it.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Not as And I would also say to my fellow Soutificans,
you say you love rugby, you say you die for rugby,
but you false you a lie. That's pretty good because
it's Tuesday night and there's no one in the crowd,
I mean not no one. It's more than a Blues game.
It's more that the Hurricanes game, but it's not a
(02:01):
it's not a Chiefs game.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Do they know that they were going to get an
absolute pens And.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
It's also raining sideways there, so I could kind of
forgive that, but you know what, do you how many
how many opportunities.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
You get to see the orbless.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Going to be another opportunity quite shortly in the Test match.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Probably in like four days. Yeah, you're right, I found
a grief.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Do you really have?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
We could do the whole podcast like this, Yes, I
quite like that. It's one of those accents of South
African accent that's the first time you hear it, it
really gets right into you because it's a weird combination
of Dutch English sure, and some other fucked up language
(02:55):
accent that you can't quite work out. But I remember
the first time. I because when I was growing up,
South Africans were banned, so there was no course, there
was ilan down country, well some of them, yeares, but
but I grew up and we did not play South
Africa in any kind of sport. So yeah, there was
(03:19):
nothing until nineteen ninety two, I believe it was.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
And if you did play Seth Africa and in kind
of sport, you would be banned, wouldn't you.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Oh yeah, you would be banned. Yes. No.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
Cavaliers two is for me?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
No, well there were there was the Cavaliers too, of course,
but for me personally, oh for you, no, well there
wasn't anything for you, weren't playing any sport.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
What's also seven?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yes, but I remember the Kevaliers too in nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Oh yes, is my bro who could forget?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I remember that. In fact, I had the VHS at
home the.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I was going to try and make up a South
African slang term for the video.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
It was called Rugby's Greatest rivet.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
That's what it's called here the bocker box sits yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
We got absolutely pens did.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Well, there were lots of South Africans that were out
for our blood plass. We were playing against South Africans
in conditions we knew nothing about on the high Velt,
and they had South African referees.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Trans volt any games on the.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
TRANSVLT absolutely on the high Velt, in the northern trans
val Val.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I'm losing it.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It was that that was German. Yeah, But I remember
when we first so my yeah, my great uncle always
talked about the South Africans and how good they were,
and so I just grew up and and when I
was growing up, the All Legs were just a big team.
That was just the way it was. And then all
of a sudden there's like, oh no, these guys are
(04:56):
quite good. In fact, when we came back into rugby
and we were playing against the me again, they were
the only team that had beaten us more times than
we'd beaten them reversed.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Now, phenangenal for knocked it on court.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
You said that in South.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Africa they've fucked it up.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
Okay you must.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
My South African accent is based entirely off one that
went to primary school who's from South Africa, and two
Razia Rasmus videos. I love watching those. That's so good.
His his his passionate speeches. You say you love rugby,
but you're false. You're lie, don't You're not love rugby,
you love you. Let me tell you this. Rugby is
(05:38):
not the biggest thing in South Africa, Lizzi, is not
the biggest thing in South Africa.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
South Africa is the biggest thing in South Africa. You
think you're bigger than South Africa, You're not.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
You say you die for this team, you say you
die for this country, but you're false.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Such a fucking That was.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
A passionate speech. I've seen that too.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yeah, he's going off as a sucking nut.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah, and you can see he cali to make an
example of because you know, people think they wouldn't go
after him.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So he's the most successful South African coach of all time,
isn't he? Now? By miles because they used to churn
throw them back in the day, like Ian McIntosh for example.
Do you remember Ian McIntosh right here? Yeah, an old
man with white hair, and then next next time one
of those in chudge No, and then there'd be a
(06:26):
new guy within about two years.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Indy Jones Jones, did he get the go I.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Don't think so, Jones, coach of South Africa.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I think no, I think no. No, you've been too
heavy on the coast of latter.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
South Africa.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
England yes, Australia yes, Japan, Japan yes, South Africa no way,
no way.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Oh sorry, he was only the assistant, you say, the
head coach, but you like you false. He helped the
spring Box win the two thousand and seven Rugby World Cup.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
J think bigger than Wikipedia, but you're not.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
It's the AI Overview midnight.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Oh about Mutton on it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
God one man hacker, Yeah, the solo. That's that's high manner.
We've been, we've been. It's been embarrassment of Richard Riches
in the hacker game lately. That's a great it's a
great hucker. You're not expecting get. But you know, it's
been a great week for the Harker.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Is actually it's a good because it's midwinter. Yeah, it's
a good time for a Harker.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
It's been two particularly good ones. Yeah, midwin you're a
midwinter hocker.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It's a it's more of a midwinter thing. I think,
like it's different.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Apparently the Warriors we're working on that Harker for around
a year.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, it was sick free.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, that was good. But the league harker is always better.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
If I'm gonna that sounds is that is that race?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
No? No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I always feel like the League supports like the Kiwi's
Hackers the one, yeah, better than the All Blacks one.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Do you know what I think I figured out with
that one is that they they just got the white
boys to stand up the back and staunch out. That's
the move. I think all blacks should start doing that,
you know, because every now and then you look down
the back, you're like, damn Rady Retelic.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah that was unfair. He's pretty good. But you know
what I mean, it's the it's the it's the locks
that usually give you away.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, I mean it's certainly that the worst, the worst
hackerists have have got a lot better over the years.
I mean, when you go back into the seventies, ninety
seventy four being the worst year that the hackers ever
performed as a hate crime, there was that one, and
it's just like, whoa what is that? Yeah, as a shocker.
A friend of mine's dad was in that team.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Really, yeah, I was gonna give zump. Your great uncle's
story was what are you saying about your great uncle?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
He watched South Africa? Yeah, something that Oh yeah, well
he was saying that when he used to tell me
when I was a kid about South Africa, because I
talk about the all Blacks all the time and talk
them up, and he'd say, yeah, yeah, they're good. You know,
all Block's always good team. But South Africa are better
than us as a rugby nation. South Africa a better
rugby nation than this is in the nineteen eighties, So
(09:21):
I'm talking about here.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
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Speaker 4 (09:33):
Breakfast before we went back and started playing the media. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, he was like and because he knew that he
knew the record music, the All Blacks record, he didn't
have to go to Wikipedia.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
He knew he couldn't go to Wikipedia there.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
No, he didn't know. Although we did have men in
black the book have You Got You Guys got men
in black?
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Really it was whites actually the cricket version.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Men and white. We had men and white as well.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
What or to gazumpiel story, My great uncle was an
honorary white.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Oh yeah? And the seventy Sex was.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
The the tour of South Africa was yeah, seventy one
or seventy sex?
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Why I'm numbers?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah yeah, as long as the years are white, it's honorary.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
What Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, didn't did b G go along as an honorary
white as well?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah? Yeah, I feel like there was one more I
can't remember.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, but yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
They, yeah, apparently really struck a chord with the.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
With the with the black community out there with the
colored community.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Well they were just like because up until then they
hadn't seen themselves represented on that kind of stage at all.
And you know, I mean Billy Bush also not one
of them, but I was thinking about that at least
a bit of diver.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah right, okay, yeah, because I did. I wondered about
how the Africans would feel about Malory, what how they
whether they look at Malty and go, yeah, that's more vibe.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
Yeah, it was just anyone that wasn't like white, Yeah, basically,
and so it didn't look like they came out out
of the youth, didn't.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
You didn't didn't try and colonize them.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I guess it's probably where the it's probably where they
go to Fifteople.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Now and then Noil.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I mean that's I think that's I'd like to see
what Stephen Jones has got to say about that.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Chris Rattu.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
That won't be any good, Chris Ratto.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So this is a problem, Chris, I would talk about
how rubbish and ital I don't let them score.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
What you're gonna remember is like I don't know if
you've ever been to a preseason game for Super Rugby
or something, but like it's it's a bit like the
defense is pretty shorty, they're not quite where they need
to be. This is the pre season game for the
Sharks and they're playing the All Blacks said Todd, shit,
Tod and Dodgy hanging out of the Oh, they're not
(12:11):
happy either at the crowd that's left at the game. Oh,
here we go. Hang on, stop the game. Stop the game.
Seventy ninth minute. Stop the game. Someone's injured. That guy
that's injured is about to stand up and score a
fifty five point try. So we need to make sure
that we give him the chance to do that.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Let's crying.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Hey, you know how we talked to Shane Cameron the
Mountain Warrior the other day.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Man, we got it given his book? Yeah, did you
read it?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I read it yesterday. What did you Yeah, whole thing
cover to cover.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah, simple language, three hours, three hours, three hours.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Do you speed read?
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Like that on the informercials from the nineteen nineties and
they on the page.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
No, I'm not a fast reader at all, but I
wept through it. He fascinating.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yeah, I love autobiographers.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
So interesting, his childhood souper. I wish i'd read I'm
actually interviewing him today again, but I wish that I'd
read it before we interviewed him on the radio. Because
there were so many bits. It's quite hard when you're
interviewing someone on TV because you've got to be able
to ask questions which you can back up with footage
for otherwise it's quite That's the whole track of doing
TV interviews is talking to footage yea, and it makes
(13:28):
it way way better. But with radio you can just
talk about anything. And I wish that I because do
you know that he left school at thirteen? I guess twelve.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Actually he felt like the dumb kid didn't e when
he was in here.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
He had the sleeks here obviously ADHD but he's worked
that out later on. But twelve he left school and
he went, oh, i'll do correspondent school at home. Because
he grew up on a farm at the back box
of Gisbon and teni Rotto is where he grew up
and his mum went, fair enough, you're not really liking school.
There's like thirty people at the local school. He'd ride
(14:04):
his horse to school and then his mother was like
and he started working on a farm at thirteen. He
was like a shepherd on a farm and as his
mum went, i'll do your correspondent school for it. Because
he had to go to school till fifteen in those days,
so she got like an A and social studies she
(14:24):
was doing. She was doing all of the work for.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Him, homeschooling, and the appearents like, d fucking idiot. Yeah,
surely you're just going to get a's He was nine.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
No, no, no, she's sending it by correspondens to someone
else who marks it.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Oh, sorry, espe she's doing a nine year old's homework.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
That to drive into you know, into town and stuff
like that. And on the way to Rugby, he'd drive
nine nine years old drive the Falcon as mum would
read Melsen Bone books and the passengers sect Oh I
don't love that. And so she'd be reading Mells and Bone.
He'd be going one hundred and forty and she couldn't
see the speed over from the site from the next thing.
She go, I feel like we're going to quack how
fast we're going? And you go, and he said that
(15:06):
it went up to one eighty on the speed and
it was always as as ambition to get to one
give those rusty old falcon that had no warrant and
no red jo and but yeah, it super interesting. And
then one day he was like seventeen, and he had
a full you know, he had all his sheep dogs,
his proper shepherd and when mate and one of his
(15:27):
dogs ate rat poison, actually all of his dogs ate
rat poison and died. And he went, oh, he knew
that you're only as got as your dogs. Basically, you
don't have a job.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, yeah, and so he went, what are you to
train five new dogs as a mash?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
So he instead. I just thought he'd heard something about
these the II thing. He didn't know that it was
like the letters OI meant overseas experience. He didn't.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I didn't know what he was talking. No, I didn't
know i'd done one. Oh yeah, I don't think it's
a given that people know that.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Oh okay, i'd have thought you just asked what what
you'd wonder what it was?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And then so who would have heard say it?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
But do you ever hear them?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
I had heard it, but I didn't really know.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I knew it stood for overseas experience, but I didn't
really know what that meant, Like what do you you know?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Like, oh, you grow up?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
And then I just don't think it occurs to people
who It's not like I knew anyone had done it right,
you know, and he would have been the same.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, well exactly he was. And he didn't even know
where he was going. He thought they just go to England.
So he went to England for the first time. And
he was worried because he couldn't read very well, so
he's worried about being able to get around and get lost. Yeah, sis,
And that he'd heard about this thing called the tubes.
He didn't know what they were, but apparently he's he
didn't know. I had no idea. I never seen a
(16:41):
picture of them Google and that what do you mean
get on a tube? Just turned up in London?
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Is there a tube around here?
Speaker 6 (16:48):
By himself?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, And then found out from going to pubs and
stuff that he was quite a good fighter.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
He started dusting cancels. Oh, hold on, job here, job here.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, he was particularly good.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
So that's particularly good.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah. See here's a sec here, g Lane.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
All right, Well should we not this thing on the
head there? We better?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I think we better do The radio show Jerry and
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Good morning, Welcome along to the first part of the Cherry,
the first podcast to see the Sun, the first to
see in a new day. This is actually all bullshit
because it's not. No, it's not because we're recording this podcast.
Just a quick look behind the curtain. Because really it
doesn't matter, because when you're listening to the podcast, you
can be listening to the podcast in three years time.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
It's like the Gender Podcast. The start of every single
one of them, Glane insists on saying live from the
Export Beer Garden studio, and every time it makes my
eye towitch because no podcast is live. So we're recording
this at like six thirty right now, sixty eight minutes
Gone Sharks versus the All.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Blacks forty two.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
That's a good response, isn't it. That's what the world's
media is going to be saying. I love those stories
that they have in their held. What did the global
media say about the All Bleaks performances? And my thing
is probably nothing really.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Nah, But we love when overseas outlets talk about us.
We love when foreign countries talk about us.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Some really weird paper in the UK said, yeah, that
no one's ever as were pretty ordinary.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yeah, New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Well, other people in the UK who hate the All
Blacks said.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Yeah, that's what happens, like this guy hates the what's
his name, Stephen.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Stephen Jones said, this is another but another damaging blow
to the Blacks invincibility.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
They won't be winning the World Cup next.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Year All Blacks.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It's only half of them that so this is a
good response. And actually the Quaszulu Natal sharks, the Quasul
Natal sharks playing in the wet se like it.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Not as And I would also say to my fellow Soutificans,
you say you love rugby, you say you die for rugby,
but you false you a lie. That's pretty good because
it's Tuesday night and there's no one in the crowd,
I mean not no one. It's more than a Blues game.
It's more that the Hurricanes game, but it's not a
(02:01):
it's not a Chiefs game.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Do they know that they were going to get an
absolute pens And.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
It's also raining sideways there, so I could kind of
forgive that, but you know what, do you how many
how many opportunities.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
You get to see the orbless.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Going to be another opportunity quite shortly in the Test match.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Probably in like four days. Yeah, you're right, I found
a grief.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Do you really have?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
We could do the whole podcast like this, Yes, I
quite like that. It's one of those accents of South
African accent that's the first time you hear it, it
really gets right into you because it's a weird combination
of Dutch English sure, and some other fucked up language
(02:55):
accent that you can't quite work out. But I remember
the first time. I because when I was growing up,
South Africans were banned, so there was no course, there
was ilan down country, well some of them, yeares, but
but I grew up and we did not play South
Africa in any kind of sport. So yeah, there was
(03:19):
nothing until nineteen ninety two, I believe it was.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
And if you did play Seth Africa and in kind
of sport, you would be banned, wouldn't you.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Oh yeah, you would be banned. Yes. No.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
Cavaliers two is for me?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
No, well there were there was the Cavaliers too, of course,
but for me personally, oh for you, no, well there
wasn't anything for you, weren't playing any sport.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
What's also seven?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yes, but I remember the Kevaliers too in nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Oh yes, is my bro who could forget?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I remember that. In fact, I had the VHS at
home the.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I was going to try and make up a South
African slang term for the video.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
It was called Rugby's Greatest rivet.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
That's what it's called here the bocker box sits yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
We got absolutely pens did.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Well, there were lots of South Africans that were out
for our blood plass. We were playing against South Africans
in conditions we knew nothing about on the high Velt,
and they had South African referees.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Trans volt any games on the.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
TRANSVLT absolutely on the high Velt, in the northern trans
val Val.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I'm losing it.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It was that that was German. Yeah, But I remember
when we first so my yeah, my great uncle always
talked about the South Africans and how good they were,
and so I just grew up and and when I
was growing up, the All Legs were just a big team.
That was just the way it was. And then all
of a sudden there's like, oh no, these guys are
(04:56):
quite good. In fact, when we came back into rugby
and we were playing against the me again, they were
the only team that had beaten us more times than
we'd beaten them reversed.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Now, phenangenal for knocked it on court.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
You said that in South.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Africa they've fucked it up.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
Okay you must.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
My South African accent is based entirely off one that
went to primary school who's from South Africa, and two
Razia Rasmus videos. I love watching those. That's so good.
His his his passionate speeches. You say you love rugby,
but you're false. You're lie, don't You're not love rugby,
you love you. Let me tell you this. Rugby is
(05:38):
not the biggest thing in South Africa, Lizzi, is not
the biggest thing in South Africa.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
South Africa is the biggest thing in South Africa. You
think you're bigger than South Africa, You're not.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
You say you die for this team, you say you
die for this country, but you're false.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Such a fucking That was.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
A passionate speech. I've seen that too.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yeah, he's going off as a sucking nut.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah, and you can see he cali to make an
example of because you know, people think they wouldn't go
after him.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So he's the most successful South African coach of all time,
isn't he? Now? By miles because they used to churn
throw them back in the day, like Ian McIntosh for example.
Do you remember Ian McIntosh right here? Yeah, an old
man with white hair, and then next next time one
of those in chudge No, and then there'd be a
(06:26):
new guy within about two years.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Indy Jones Jones, did he get the go I.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Don't think so, Jones, coach of South Africa.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I think no, I think no. No, you've been too
heavy on the coast of latter.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
South Africa.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
England yes, Australia yes, Japan, Japan yes, South Africa no way,
no way.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Oh sorry, he was only the assistant, you say, the
head coach, but you like you false. He helped the
spring Box win the two thousand and seven Rugby World Cup.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
J think bigger than Wikipedia, but you're not.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
It's the AI Overview midnight.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Oh about Mutton on it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
God one man hacker, Yeah, the solo. That's that's high manner.
We've been, we've been. It's been embarrassment of Richard Riches
in the hacker game lately. That's a great it's a
great hucker. You're not expecting get. But you know, it's
been a great week for the Harker.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Is actually it's a good because it's midwinter. Yeah, it's
a good time for a Harker.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
It's been two particularly good ones. Yeah, midwin you're a
midwinter hocker.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It's a it's more of a midwinter thing. I think,
like it's different.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Apparently the Warriors we're working on that Harker for around
a year.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, it was sick free.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, that was good. But the league harker is always better.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
If I'm gonna that sounds is that is that race?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
No? No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I always feel like the League supports like the Kiwi's
Hackers the one, yeah, better than the All Blacks one.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Do you know what I think I figured out with
that one is that they they just got the white
boys to stand up the back and staunch out. That's
the move. I think all blacks should start doing that,
you know, because every now and then you look down
the back, you're like, damn Rady Retelic.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah that was unfair. He's pretty good. But you know
what I mean, it's the it's the it's the locks
that usually give you away.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, I mean it's certainly that the worst, the worst
hackerists have have got a lot better over the years.
I mean, when you go back into the seventies, ninety
seventy four being the worst year that the hackers ever
performed as a hate crime, there was that one, and
it's just like, whoa what is that? Yeah, as a shocker.
A friend of mine's dad was in that team.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Really, yeah, I was gonna give zump. Your great uncle's
story was what are you saying about your great uncle?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
He watched South Africa? Yeah, something that Oh yeah, well
he was saying that when he used to tell me
when I was a kid about South Africa, because I
talk about the all Blacks all the time and talk
them up, and he'd say, yeah, yeah, they're good. You know,
all Block's always good team. But South Africa are better
than us as a rugby nation. South Africa a better
rugby nation than this is in the nineteen eighties, So
(09:21):
I'm talking about here.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
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group on Facebook for more Jeremy Wells and Mania Stuart
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Speaker 4 (09:33):
Breakfast before we went back and started playing the media. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, he was like and because he knew that he
knew the record music, the All Blacks record, he didn't
have to go to Wikipedia.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
He knew he couldn't go to Wikipedia there.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
No, he didn't know. Although we did have men in
black the book have You Got You Guys got men
in black?
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Really it was whites actually the cricket version.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Men and white. We had men and white as well.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
What or to gazumpiel story, My great uncle was an
honorary white.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Oh yeah? And the seventy Sex was.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
The the tour of South Africa was yeah, seventy one
or seventy sex?
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Why I'm numbers?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah yeah, as long as the years are white, it's honorary.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
What Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, didn't did b G go along as an honorary
white as well?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah? Yeah, I feel like there was one more I
can't remember.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, but yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
They, yeah, apparently really struck a chord with the.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
With the with the black community out there with the
colored community.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Well they were just like because up until then they
hadn't seen themselves represented on that kind of stage at all.
And you know, I mean Billy Bush also not one
of them, but I was thinking about that at least
a bit of diver.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah right, okay, yeah, because I did. I wondered about
how the Africans would feel about Malory, what how they
whether they look at Malty and go, yeah, that's more vibe.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
Yeah, it was just anyone that wasn't like white, Yeah, basically,
and so it didn't look like they came out out
of the youth, didn't.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
You didn't didn't try and colonize them.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I guess it's probably where the it's probably where they
go to Fifteople.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Now and then Noil.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I mean that's I think that's I'd like to see
what Stephen Jones has got to say about that.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Chris Rattu.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
That won't be any good, Chris Ratto.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So this is a problem, Chris, I would talk about
how rubbish and ital I don't let them score.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
What you're gonna remember is like I don't know if
you've ever been to a preseason game for Super Rugby
or something, but like it's it's a bit like the
defense is pretty shorty, they're not quite where they need
to be. This is the pre season game for the
Sharks and they're playing the All Blacks said Todd, shit,
Tod and Dodgy hanging out of the Oh, they're not
(12:11):
happy either at the crowd that's left at the game. Oh,
here we go. Hang on, stop the game. Stop the game.
Seventy ninth minute. Stop the game. Someone's injured. That guy
that's injured is about to stand up and score a
fifty five point try. So we need to make sure
that we give him the chance to do that.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Let's crying.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Hey, you know how we talked to Shane Cameron the
Mountain Warrior the other day.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Man, we got it given his book? Yeah, did you
read it?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I read it yesterday. What did you Yeah, whole thing
cover to cover.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah, simple language, three hours, three hours, three hours.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Do you speed read?
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Like that on the informercials from the nineteen nineties and
they on the page.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
No, I'm not a fast reader at all, but I
wept through it. He fascinating.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yeah, I love autobiographers.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
So interesting, his childhood souper. I wish i'd read I'm
actually interviewing him today again, but I wish that I'd
read it before we interviewed him on the radio. Because
there were so many bits. It's quite hard when you're
interviewing someone on TV because you've got to be able
to ask questions which you can back up with footage
for otherwise it's quite That's the whole track of doing
TV interviews is talking to footage yea, and it makes
(13:28):
it way way better. But with radio you can just
talk about anything. And I wish that I because do
you know that he left school at thirteen? I guess twelve.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Actually he felt like the dumb kid didn't e when
he was in here.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
He had the sleeks here obviously ADHD but he's worked
that out later on. But twelve he left school and
he went, oh, i'll do correspondent school at home. Because
he grew up on a farm at the back box
of Gisbon and teni Rotto is where he grew up
and his mum went, fair enough, you're not really liking school.
There's like thirty people at the local school. He'd ride
(14:04):
his horse to school and then his mother was like
and he started working on a farm at thirteen. He
was like a shepherd on a farm and as his
mum went, i'll do your correspondent school for it. Because
he had to go to school till fifteen in those days,
so she got like an A and social studies she
(14:24):
was doing. She was doing all of the work for.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Him, homeschooling, and the appearents like, d fucking idiot. Yeah,
surely you're just going to get a's He was nine.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
No, no, no, she's sending it by correspondens to someone
else who marks it.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Oh, sorry, espe she's doing a nine year old's homework.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
That to drive into you know, into town and stuff
like that. And on the way to Rugby, he'd drive
nine nine years old drive the Falcon as mum would
read Melsen Bone books and the passengers sect Oh I
don't love that. And so she'd be reading Mells and Bone.
He'd be going one hundred and forty and she couldn't
see the speed over from the site from the next thing.
She go, I feel like we're going to quack how
fast we're going? And you go, and he said that
(15:06):
it went up to one eighty on the speed and
it was always as as ambition to get to one
give those rusty old falcon that had no warrant and
no red jo and but yeah, it super interesting. And
then one day he was like seventeen, and he had
a full you know, he had all his sheep dogs,
his proper shepherd and when mate and one of his
(15:27):
dogs ate rat poison, actually all of his dogs ate
rat poison and died. And he went, oh, he knew
that you're only as got as your dogs. Basically, you
don't have a job.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, yeah, and so he went, what are you to
train five new dogs as a mash?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
So he instead. I just thought he'd heard something about
these the II thing. He didn't know that it was
like the letters OI meant overseas experience. He didn't.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I didn't know what he was talking. No, I didn't
know i'd done one. Oh yeah, I don't think it's
a given that people know that.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Oh okay, i'd have thought you just asked what what
you'd wonder what it was?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And then so who would have heard say it?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
But do you ever hear them?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
I had heard it, but I didn't really know.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I knew it stood for overseas experience, but I didn't
really know what that meant, Like what do you you know?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Like, oh, you grow up?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
And then I just don't think it occurs to people
who It's not like I knew anyone had done it right,
you know, and he would have been the same.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, well exactly he was. And he didn't even know
where he was going. He thought they just go to England.
So he went to England for the first time. And
he was worried because he couldn't read very well, so
he's worried about being able to get around and get lost. Yeah, sis,
And that he'd heard about this thing called the tubes.
He didn't know what they were, but apparently he's he
didn't know. I had no idea. I never seen a
(16:41):
picture of them Google and that what do you mean
get on a tube? Just turned up in London?
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Is there a tube around here?
Speaker 6 (16:48):
By himself?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, And then found out from going to pubs and
stuff that he was quite a good fighter.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
He started dusting cancels. Oh, hold on, job here, job here.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, he was particularly good.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
So that's particularly good.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah. See here's a sec here, g Lane.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
All right, Well should we not this thing on the
head there? We better?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I think we better do The radio show Jerry and
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