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September 6, 2026 • 68 mins

A huge show today - the guys talk to Joe Wheeler about the ABs vs Springboks (0:30:17), and Tim Southee joins us to talk about the Black Clash (0:44:41).

Plus Manaia has an update on our Blazing Spots book, and speaking of Blazing Spots... we catch up with former show button pusher Mash (0:23:48).

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
It is indeed a tragic day in New Zealand's history.
The Hauraki Breakfast with Gerian Manoa.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome along to the Hauraki Breakfast, Monday the 7th of September, 2026.
My name's Jeremy Wells, this is Manoa Stewart.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Good morning, Jeremy Wells. Happy Father's Day for yesterday.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
What day is Father's Day? Yesterday.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yesterday. Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
How was it celebrated in your household?

Speaker 1 (00:34):
There was so much celebration going on. There were cards,
lovely words, there were tears.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Your own name written in macaroni on gluten PVC?

Speaker 1 (00:42):
There was craft. There was craft. There was some photos,
a collage put together, and some chocolate bars as well.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
I like that from my outsider perspective, Mothering Day is
all about mum gets out of the house. is not
what the family goes and has their own me time.
Much deserved.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
I think there should be one of those a week.
It was up to me. Father's Day seems to be,
you stay, you stay right there, babe. And we're all
coming around to you and you don't get, meanwhile, you
actually just want to go out to the golf course.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
But you've got to sit there and be grateful.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Well, there's a huge night on Saturday night as well.
So Father's Day, Father's Day spent, Licking wounds.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Subdued.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yep. But you're allowed to lick your wounds on Father's Day.
This is a good thing. You've got to time it right.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
That's a great point. Maybe that's, yeah, is that the play,
is it?

Speaker 5 (01:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Celebrate Father's Day the day before with your friends.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, and then play off the back foot.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
And then you can do whatever you want on Father's
Day the next day.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Father's Day itself, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
All right, should we get into the kickoff for a
Monday morning? For me, I am going back to the
well of funk with Stardust.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Music sounds better with you. that you want to talk
about licking your wounds jerry this will cure them for you.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
This is just taking me straight back to 3 a.m
saturday night what a tune that is 0800 haraki 0800
428725 if you want to kick the show off uh
here's something i thought might be a good little show
starter for a monday morning it's the naked and famous
young blood on a monday morning 0800 Hauraki.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Is this on an ad, this song?

Speaker 1 (02:22):
I'd say so.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, it's making me want to buy a product, but
I don't know what... I can't remember exactly what it is.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Let's go to the phones. 0800 Hauraki, 0800 428725. Good morning,
welcome to the show. Who are we talking to? Talking
to Nick.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
Nick, how's... What part of New.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Zealand are you in? Christchurch, is it?

Speaker 5 (02:42):
Christchurch, fellas, yeah. Just north of Ashburton.

Speaker 6 (02:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
If you hit the WIMAC, you've gone too far.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Are you saying Christchurch is just north of Ashburton, or
you are currently just north of Ashburton?

Speaker 7 (02:53):
Two things can be true.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
That's a great point, Nick.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Nick, which song would you like to kick things off
with this morning?

Speaker 5 (03:01):
Your song, Jeremy.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Okay, thank you very much. It's Young, Blood, Naked and Famous.
Let's all start the Monday morning.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Oh, great way to ease into your Monday morning.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Welcome along.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Nice to have you accompanying me.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Nigerian Mania, The Hodaki Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Still can't remember what ad that's for.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Is it on?

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Is it maybe when you land on an Air New
Zealand flight?

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Is that what it is? It's 100%. That and Boy
and Bear is what they love to play when you land.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
It's quite traumatic because you're often waking up from trying
to sleep through it.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
But I feel like it's been used on a couple
of our very popular songs.

Speaker 8 (03:38):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
They make a fair bit of coin off that kind
of thing.

Speaker 7 (03:41):
Zoe.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Oh, Zoe has been baking.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Old Zoe's been baking. Old Zoe's been baking. What has.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Zoe baked? I've got it in front of my hands here.

Speaker 9 (03:52):
Yeah, Zoe baked a little coconut blueberry loaf of sorts.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Of sorts?

Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
The of sorts is a concerning thing to say at
the end. Because it's got coconut in it, but you
can't taste it. Okay.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
May as well have left it out.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
So straight off the eye test, Gerry, you can see
it from over there in the systema stema here?

Speaker 1 (04:11):
I would say visually strong.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Visually strong?

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Visually out of 10. In fact, earlier on today when
I was flapping around a desk over at the office,
I spotted it and I thought, ooh, that looks quite good. Oh,
what's this?

Speaker 3 (04:24):
I hope we get to try some of that. Well,
you will. Be prepared to be disappointed. What can I say?
So that's the visual cues.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Heavy. Heavy.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
It's a small thing, but I would say dense. In fact,
listen to this when Zoe put it down before.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
It sounded like this.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Oh, hold on. I mean, when you said dense, I
thought dense, but then that is like a brick.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
I know. So let's have a hone, shall we?

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah. How's it to the smell? How's it to the nose?

Speaker 3 (04:49):
How is it on the nose? It's got legs.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
How hard is it?

Speaker 3 (04:54):
It's good. Fresh, Zoe?

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, I baked it last night. Last night?

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Spongy.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Okay, spongy. Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Blueberry, did you say?

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Blueberry and coconut.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
It's even got a bit of lime juice in there.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
I know.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Big blobs. Is this gluten-free?

Speaker 1 (05:09):
And calorie and fat-free.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Is it actually?

Speaker 5 (05:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
It is gluten-free, isn't it?

Speaker 5 (05:13):
No. Okay, good.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Because I was going to say, when people bake, for
health reasons, generally in my experience, it's not... Uh-oh, look
at Manai's eyes. Manai's eyes are narrowing. Do you need
a napkin?

Speaker 8 (05:25):
No.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
A glass of water, perhaps.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Is it a bit dry?

Speaker 4 (05:30):
It's a little bit dry. And I have to be honest.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
It's a bit dry.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Did you put sugar in it?

Speaker 8 (05:39):
Yeah, I did.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
Did you?

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Because if I ever ate into like a dish sponge,
this is what I feel like perhaps it might taste like.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
There's a lot of goodness in it. And oddly enough,
I can't taste any of the things that are in it.
I can see blueberries. I hear there's coconut in it.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
There's rumours swirling.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
I can't taste anything. There's a little bit to the tooth.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, it's a very subtle flavour of coconut.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
It's almost as if there was a coconut in the
house when it was made, but I can't taste it
in the.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Thing as well. And like you say, I can see
the blueberries, but for some reason I can't taste them.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
You can be honest, it's a bit shit.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
I think 90% of baking is just pouring an entire
thing of sugar into it, like a whole cup.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Do you know, because it's a loaf, right? It's a
blueberry and coconut loaf. What it could do with, it
would be amazing, if you put butter and then some
preserve on the top. Perhaps you could even put it
in like a sandwich toaster. You could toast it, you
could rock it, you could roll it, you could lock
the rock and put your feet up. Yeah, it's like I've... Look,

(06:55):
I can taste a lot of baking soda.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
It does taste a little bit like Play-Doh, but... Jesus.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Oh, this is good.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
This is getting brutal.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
But I think the secret ingredient you've missed, Zoe, is love.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
You're right.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
I have, and I have missed that.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
There's no love in it. There's no love in it.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Oh, what?

Speaker 3 (07:15):
And you can taste the distinct, like... Can you taste hate?
I have to. I can taste death cat mushrooms.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Just finishing off Zoe's absolutely delicious blueberry and coconut loaf.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
You're lying.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
I got a big mouthful of baking powder. I feel
like the baking powder hadn't been mixed.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
I think I got a whole teaspoon of salt right
at the end there.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
There's a little bit more salt than sugar, but I've
got to say edible. I'll describe it as edible.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
I've got to say edible.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Well, that's an important thing. And actually, you said before
that you could taste a little bit of hate. I
could not taste hate in that. I couldn't taste any love,
but I couldn't taste any hate. There was a bit
of balance in it. And I have tasted meals before
with hate. I mean, famously, Tulsi's sausage pasta that she
prepared after the kids had not been eating any of

(08:15):
the food that she'd been cooking for like about two
months or It was driving her nuts. I came home
from work one day and in front of me she
actually threw a plate of plain pasta with bits of
cold sauce. The pasta was cold and the sausage was
an old sausage that had been cooked from the day
before and it was chopped up into the pasta.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
What kind of sausage? Just like a Heller's sort of situation?

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, like a Heller's sausage. That was cold too.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
And there was no butter, no olive oil, no salt,
no pepper.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
And I took her and I threw it in front
of me and then she just stared at me.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Say something.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, like you say, you dare you say something about
me and I'll grab a knife from the kitchen and
I will stab you. And so I said, mmm, mmm, mmm, delicious.
But actually, secretly, I could taste the hate.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Well, this raises a good question. How do you tell
your partner that they've cooked a bad feed?

Speaker 2 (09:11):
You don't.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
You don't, eh?

Speaker 1 (09:12):
You never do.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
You don't.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
My missus came home the other day, and she said,
I can't believe I'm saying this into a microphone. She said, oh,
my workmates, I told them what I made us for
dinner last night, and they said, oh, you've put way
too much salt in there.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
But I don't think I've put too much salt in there,
did I? And I was like, hmm. This is a crossroads,
isn't it? I've got a couple of options available to
me right now. The truth is not important.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
No, I know. Why would the truth be important in
this conversation?

Speaker 4 (09:40):
Well, the other one is, as you've diagnosed me before,
I think I might be developing a little bit of
a milk intolerance or a lactose intolerance. There's a couple
of feeds she makes where she pours like a whole
thing of cream into it.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
It ruins me.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
And I know as I'm eating it, I can taste it.
I'm like, I'm going to be in the spirit. room
en suite at 3 a.m.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
This morning.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
I can feel it right now. But I've never said anything.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
No, you can get away with that. I think you
can get away with that. I think that's okay. If
it's genuinely doing something to your system, I think that's
a health issue.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
How do I bring it up?

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Stop making that shit. I think you just say, look,
I think last time after– Just say, I think I've
been noticing a pattern emerging. Maybe I should go to
the doctor. Frame it like that.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
It's a medical emergency.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
I think I need to go to the doctor.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Why?

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Oh, I think whenever I have a lot of dairy
or cream, it seems to come out the back end
in a particular way. And I noticed with that dish
that you made with all of the cream in it.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Delicious, by the way. Which I really enjoyed. And I
think perfectly salted.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
My mouth and brain enjoyed, but my bowel didn't. Disagreed.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
And if it was up to me, I'd have it
for every meal of every day. But what I'm saying is.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Too much.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Too much. Oh, okay. You're going too far.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
She'll see through that.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah. And then that's it.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Look, that's a health issue.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
I think that's fine. But you've put too much salt
in this. I don't know if you're going to get
away with that. Or this loaf here has no joy
in it at all.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
So when I said that I felt like Zoe's loaf
was made with hate, that was probably.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
A bridge too far.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I think that's a bridge too far.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Absence of love would have done it.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, I think that's a bridge too far. No, look,
I think it's fair.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Well, look, you came to us looking for open, honest,
raw feedback. Sure. Oh, did you not?

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Is that....

Speaker 3 (11:28):
I'll just skip with you guys. I might have misread
the situation. It's fine.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
It's nice to come in for some baking anyway. Put
it that way. Remember I gave Jason Hoyt some baking
and some muffins once? Threw it back in my face.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
I actually do think I need a glass of water, though.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Get hold of us any time you like. You can
text us... On 3483. That is a text approach using
words on your mobile phone.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Or you can ring us and deliver a slam poem
in person on 0800 HODAKI, 0800 428 725. Zoe's prepared
some baking for us this morning.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
What was it, Zoe? It was a... Blueberry coconut loaf.
Blueberry coconut loaf?

Speaker 1 (12:09):
What makes it a loaf compared to a cake? I
didn't have a cake tin. Is it just the shape
of it? I would say. Ah, would you.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
I don't think there's any shape you could have put
that in that I would have considered that a cake.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Actually, hold on. You're famously, Manai, anti-cake.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
I am anti-cake. I'm generally anti-baking.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
There's two things that generally shock people about me. The
first is that I don't like baked goods, aside from
cheese scones. That's the only exception. So a birthday cake
out in the office like Beck Sandy's is on Friday.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Nightmare for me.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Would you consider biscuits baked goods?

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yes, I would, and I don't like them.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Which shocks people to look at me.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Shocking.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
The second one is that I don't shave. That also
shocks people. You don't shave. Well, I don't shave. That
shocks no one. But I don't chafe either.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
I don't chafe either. This is a non-chafe. Oh, no,
hold on. Rudy's a big chafer. It's a non-chafe.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
He's in the pocket of big chafe. But whenever someone,
a member of the chafing community, often comes to me
for a bit of support, a bit of totoko, and
I'm like, I'm sorry, mate.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
I can't help you.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
I don't chafe.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
I don't chafe.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
So I'm the wrong person to ask about the loaf
that Zoe's made.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Well, it costs to get your T-shirt that says, I
don't chafe. Because I imagine people come up to you
on a daily basis just saying, you must chafe.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah. It would save a lot of interactions, I think.
It's almost daily.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
It's why I don't take public transport, because people come
up to me and they go, hey, I've been having
this issue with chafing.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Do you chafe?

Speaker 1 (13:43):
You need that as well.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
I might get a tattoo.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
That could be on the back.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
But yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
I said that perhaps the secret ingredient to those loaves
is love, and that not only is there no love
in that loaf, but I detected a.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Little bit of hate, a little bit of hatred.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
As I said, I've tasted hate, and trust me, and
that did not have hate.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Someone else has texted her on 3483 as well and said,
Zoe may have put laxative in it too. Well, I
ate it. What, 10 minutes ago?

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
So, I don't know. Let's see how we go through
the sports headlines.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, as you pointed out, it does have a mushroomy
sort of a taste to it. Coming up on the
Huddokee Breakfast, we tried to get hold of MASH on Friday.
The number didn't work. We've now got a number that
will work. Well, you know what?

Speaker 4 (14:29):
I've had a think about this over the weekend. I
suspect that times are tough in business here in New Zealand,
particularly in the media. I wonder if toll calls have
been banned from our office. Maybe we can't call Australia.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Well, we'll find out how we go.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
We'll try and call and collect.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
We'll try that after the 6.30 sports headlines. This is
the Hauraki Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Jerry and Minaya, the Hauraki Breakfast. Jerry and Minaya, the
Hauraki Breakfast.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
6.31 on the Hauraki Breakfast. Time for your latest sport headlines.
Thanks to Export Ultra, the beer for here. The first
week of the NRL playoffs are set and the Warriors
will host the Dolphins at Mount Smart at 6.05pm on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Anyone else watch that Tigers-Panthers last game to figure out
if we'd win the minor premiership last night?

Speaker 1 (15:25):
I did.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
I did.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Well, look, I'll be honest, I'll be the first to
admit it. I feel like everyone else is going to
admit it after I do.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
I'll watch the first half.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
And it was like 30 points to nil. I was like, hey.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
They ended up winning 38-10 over the Tigers, the Panthers,
to set up a Sunday evening match with the Roosters.
The playoffs start with the Rabbitohs hosting the Knights on
Friday night. The Sharks and the Cowboys meet on Saturday.
So just having a look at the live TAB odds.
That's interesting. I mean, the Dolphins are a good side.
I mean, all these sides are good sides.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
It's an interesting one because, you know, if we had
a finished first, we would have come up against the
Roosters who are on a slide.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Their halfback's just been injured. You probably would have preferred that.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
On the flip side, be that as it may, mind you,
we get a second bite of the cherry. So if
we lose this weekend, which we won't, but if we did,
then we get another bite of the cherry the next week.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, South Sydney against the Knights, $ 1. 40. South Sydney paying
at the moment, the Knights $ 3. And the Panthers are
paying $ 1. 33 against the Roosters $ 3. 35.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
How hard is it going to be? So I think.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Tickets go on sale for members tomorrow, I believe. Or
general sale goes on sale tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Something.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Anyway, what I'm saying is it's going to be nigh
on impossible to get tickets to this event. to this
game this weekend. So if you.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Hear me promoting some brands that aren't involved in this
show later on in the week, mind your own business.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
And the other one is, will the Warriors end up
splitting it? Because of course the Warriors organisation doesn't decide
or take the ticket sales for these games, do they?
It's actually, it goes to all the NRL. The NRL
gets it, yeah. Controls the finals, so the NRL can
then decide the venue. And there's a lot of talk
that Eden Park will host once, Of the home games,
and one will be at Mount Smart.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
I have heard this. I have heard this, that the
second one could potentially be it. There's no way. There's
no way.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
But they'll double the gate take.

Speaker 7 (17:21):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
But who... Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
They don't care about the Mount Smart faithful.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
No, they don't at all, do they?

Speaker 5 (17:28):
No.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
They just care about money. Formula One Championship leader Kimi
Antonelli has become the first Italian in 60 years to
win at his home race at Monza. He came from 19th.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
19th?

Speaker 1 (17:39):
After a grid penalty to pass, Mercedes teammate George Russell,
with three laps remaining, Liam Lawson, got 14th. And an
MPC win against the odds for North Harbour. They've secured
57-42 home victory over Ramphilly Shield holders Northland, despite being
forced into 16 personnel and positional changes on Friday due
to a raft of sickness. Harbour sits second on the

(18:01):
table after six rounds. Hawke's Bay are top with six
wins from six. So they didn't put the shield up?

Speaker 3 (18:06):
No, home game for Harbour, not Northland.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
But I just thought you'd just put the shield up
no matter what nowadays.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Nah, gotta be home. You gotta go and get it.
Gotta go and get it.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Ah, right. Up next, an embarrassing situation that you may
have been in before.

Speaker 6 (18:20):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
I was in it on the weekend. It involved James McConey.
Except it didn't. I'll explain it up next. I had
an intensely humiliating experience on the weekend. One of those
ones that makes your head flush red, feels like it's
three times the size that it usually is. I was

(18:43):
out for a walk around my neighbourhood, and in my
neighbourhood is the who's who of.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
The media glitterati in New Zealand. James McCarney lives around
the corner, and I see him every now and then
around the suburb.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Tony Lyle. Lives around the corner as well.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Wow, it really is the who's who, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (19:01):
It is the who's who, yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Tony Lyle and James McConaughey. Anyone else?

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Yeah, the guy from MyFM's dad lives around the corner
from me.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Wow. Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
I'm telling you, man.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
I'm surprised they don't do bus tours, like pick people
up from the Auckland airport.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Like Hollywood.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Like an open-air bus, and they go around. This is
the guy from Flavours. No, it's Flavours.

Speaker 7 (19:23):
MyFM.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
MyFM's dad's house. Dad's house, yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
This is where Tony Lyle.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Lived a year ago.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
And now this is where he lives now, which is
just around the corner.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
And this is James McConey's house here.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah. Look, you could.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
You'd get a good 15 minutes out of that. But
as I was walking around, I was standing at the
lights waiting to cross the road, and a car was
coming from quite a while away. And the entire time,
the guy was staring at me in the car, and
I was like, you know... you become aware that someone's
looking at you, like you can't help but look back
at them. And I was like, oh, James McConey. And

(19:57):
I was standing at the lights, and so I gave
him a pretty hearty wave. Gave it heaps, because he
was staring at me from ages away. So I was
just like, oh, it's Makoni. So I gave him a
big wave.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Oh, you gave him a mana wave?

Speaker 3 (20:06):
I expressed as much mana as I could. I gave
him both hands.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Double mana wave.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Pukana shirt off. Was about to launch into a haka,
but he'd gone around the corner by himself.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Okay, yep.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
So I'm giving it heaps. And it's quite a busy road,
so there's a lot of people there too. And then
as I wave at him, He waved back, but he
had like this sheepish look on his face. And then
he got closer and I was like, that is not
James McConey. That's just some random guy who just happened
to be looking in my direction. And I gave it,
and my face just went bright red.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
And I was like, oh my God. And I had
to text McConey.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
I can even bring up the text that I sent
to him. Cause I was like, I don't know why
I text McConey because this is what I said to him.
I said, I just gave a guy the heartiest wave
thinking it was you out on the peninsula here. Totally humiliated.
You don't need to know this, but I needed.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
To tell someone. Because obviously, to McConey, he doesn't know.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Well, that's it. He wasn't there. He totally doesn't know.
I mean, there are a lot of people out there
that do look like James McConey, I've got to say.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
He said, that's what he said back to me.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
He said, I do have a few doppelgangers around our suburb.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yes. So, yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Have you ever waved the wrong person?

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Well, funny that you say that, because I had almost
certainly the same back-end feeling of shame. in the weekend
over something similar. Someone waved at me and was walking
along the street. Someone waved at me and I was like,
I thought, I think I know. I thought, I don't

(21:34):
know her, but I kind of do know her. That's
a familiar face. I think it's a parent from school.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
Right.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
And, you know, when your kids go to school, you
meet a lot of people like once or twice in
your life and you might not meet them for another
three or four years. And so you vaguely know them,
but you kind of don't. And I thought, oh, I
think that's a friend of Hugo's mum's maybe that I met.
So I'm like, oh, okay, have a good wave. And
then she sort of looked kind of strangely at me.

(22:00):
And immediately I had that moment where I thought, oh,
hold on, what's going on here? And then I turned around.
She was waving at a person behind me. And I'd
intercepted the wave. I'd taken it on myself. You know,
that's what you feel. You feel like you've stolen a
moment between people. Yes, we have. And immediately I felt
that same shame that you've got. Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
I don't know which one's worse. I've done both in
the calendar month. This happened to me.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
I was walking into a bar the other day. A
person who was a friend of a friend waved. I
thought they were waving at me. Had a couple of
Export Ultra merches under the belt.

Speaker 8 (22:37):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
So I gave it heaps back, turned around, there's a
guy waving behind me. I was like, Betty, not waving
at me.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, I know the feeling.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
We're leaving the bar.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Oh, you left? I left. Get out of.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
There.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
So on Friday, we thought we'd catch up with Mesh,
former button pusher on the show, producer Mesh. You may
know him as Milkman Mesh. He takes FPOS or cash.
But we couldn't get through because... We had an 0800 number.
It turns out you can't call 0800 numbers internationally. Well,

(23:10):
it's the Australian version of an 0800 number. Anyway, we've
managed to get hold of Mesh. Mesh is on the
line now. Mesh, morning. Morning, boys.

Speaker 7 (23:18):
Zoe, how's it going? So, wait, who are you calling
on Friday?

Speaker 5 (23:22):
I wonder.

Speaker 7 (23:23):
Was it B105, the current station that I'm working for?

Speaker 3 (23:26):
That's what we thought it was.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
But obviously, as you know, Finn, the first port of
call is Millie out at reception when we forget to
press 1.

Speaker 7 (23:34):
I'm very familiar with that.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
I think she's won a boat and a trip to
the NRL Grand Final off us this year. And then
the second go-round, we just got blocked. I think it
could be a sign of the times. Maybe NZME can't
afford to call overseas. But anyway, we've got you now.
You're over there working with Stav, Abby and the Cuck.
You've been there for, what, a couple of months now?
How's that going?

Speaker 7 (23:53):
Yeah, it's going all right, boys. It's going all right.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
It's different.

Speaker 8 (23:56):
I think if it means anything to the listener, maybe
I would compare it to what?

Speaker 7 (24:00):
Maybe like a Stace, Mike and Anika? Does that mean
anything to anyone?

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Stace, Mike and Anika. Oh yeah, on the hits back
in the day.

Speaker 8 (24:09):
Yeah, something like that. That's the kind of vibe it is.
So it's very different, I'd have to say. But it's
nice sitting in the pocket. I've got nothing to do
with what goes to air. So that's quite different. I'm
just sitting out in Studio B, answering a couple of
phones and organising a few guests.

Speaker 7 (24:23):
So the feet are up, boys. But it's good across here.
It's real good.

Speaker 8 (24:26):
And I mean, what isn't that familiar is there's about
a team of 30 working on the radio show that I'm...
I'm trying to put you here each day as opposed
to just a couple of us just mucking around in
the studio. But, yeah, nah, all good across here, fellas.
We've got a lovely view, actually, in our studio of
the brown snake. One of the eight bridges. I think

(24:46):
we can see two or three of them from the window.
And the sun's actually just about to come up. She's
coming off the back of a 36-degree day yesterday in
the Brisbane CBD.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Jesus.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
Ooh.

Speaker 7 (24:57):
So yeah, but nah, all good. Thanks, fellas.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
All good. So what you're saying to us, Mashi, if
I read between the lines, what you're saying to us
is that there's still lots of money in Australia. They
haven't had the cost-cutting measures that New Zealand media's had
over the years. And as a result, everybody's still kind of,
I don't know, everybody's got their own job. I mean,

(25:21):
that's the thing. It's part of a 30-person team.

Speaker 9 (25:23):
Jeez.

Speaker 7 (25:25):
Yeah, it is quite nice.

Speaker 8 (25:26):
I mean, I've got to be honest, I'm slowly exaggerating
on that, but it is not a million miles off.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
The case.

Speaker 8 (25:32):
Like, I'm currently looking to the right of me. We've
got an audio producer whose sole job is to just
focus on whipping up some audio for the team. To
the left of me, I've got the executive producer of
the radio show. She's kind of organising all the admin
for the team, and then I'm not actually really sure
what I do, as I've described those two roles to you,
and then the hosts, they stumble in about an hour
before the show, and they As you'd know, boys, an

(25:54):
hour before the show, they stumble in an hour before
the show and organise everything for us. So, yeah, the
work thing over here is quite different because it's just
one massive engine and you just slot your way into
it and then that's the way it goes.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
30 people, are they looking for 31? I was going.

Speaker 7 (26:09):
To say, are you looking for a job?

Speaker 1 (26:13):
When does the cut come off contract?

Speaker 7 (26:15):
When does the cuck come off contract? That's a good question.
I'm not too sure about the guy.

Speaker 8 (26:19):
I mean, I've only, again, been here for a couple
of months, so we're yet to have contract conversations.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Because that was our thing when we met. We chatted
to Stav, Abby, and the cuck.

Speaker 7 (26:30):
Wait, wait, hold up, hold up. Stav and the cuck
is the same person.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Stav is the cuck. So it was Wolfie, Abby, and
the cuck.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Oh, who was the one that looks like a wolf?
So there's a guy that looks like a wolf. There's Abby.
She's a breath of fresh air. We know her. And
then there's the cuck. And what you're saying is that
the cuck who sits in the corner and cucks in
the brakes, he is actually Stav.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
No.

Speaker 7 (26:55):
Yeah, that's Stav. Yeah, that's Stav. So you've got Matt,
the wolf. You've got Abby, breath of fresh air. We
all know that.

Speaker 8 (27:01):
And the cuck in the corner, that's Stav.

Speaker 7 (27:05):
Yeah, and Stav.

Speaker 8 (27:06):
And I'm unsure on the expiration dates of any of
their contracts, but I can keep an eye on that
for you fellas, and I'll keep you posted.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Well, it's a unique role, but it's one I think
Jerry is uniquely equipped for, to just cuck in the
corner of the break.

Speaker 8 (27:19):
Yeah, there are actually some serious similarities that I can
share off with you, Jerry, if you'd like.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
Really?

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Me and the cuck? Yeah. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 7 (27:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
That's interesting.

Speaker 7 (27:28):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (27:30):
What about you guys? What's going on in the show?
I mean, I'm listening every now and again. I thought
there was a podcast announcement today. Do I get any
teasers or sneak peeks into that? You're going to.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Have to tune in after eight, Mesh.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
You're going to have to tune in after eight.

Speaker 7 (27:40):
I've got a radio show over here.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Well, you're going to decide what means more to you, mate.

Speaker 8 (27:45):
Well, don't make me choose because B105 might not get
to hear.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Hey, look, great to chat and good that things are
going well for you over there.

Speaker 8 (27:55):
And can I ask something before we go? I know
you've probably got some news headlines to do with some
more bush, but on Thursday, Friday, Matt, who pushes our
buttons is away and I've been trying to warm my
way onto the desk here at B105.

Speaker 7 (28:09):
So I was just wondering, boys, if maybe I can
send you. If you could send me a bit of.

Speaker 8 (28:13):
A voice note, a bit of a reference, a job
reference about how fantastic I am at pushing buttons, I'd
really appreciate that. Just flick that through to my mobile
number here in Aussie and it might do some good
over here if that's okay.

Speaker 7 (28:24):
So that's all I ask.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Well, you know what we say about that. That's fine.
I'm happy to do that for you, but I will
always be honest.

Speaker 7 (28:31):
No, can you not be honest?

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Do you want me to be honest?

Speaker 7 (28:34):
No, I just need you to do this for me, Jerry.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
Please.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
We'll talk about it off here. Okay, boys. Do they
allow vaping in the studio there?

Speaker 7 (28:41):
No, don't bring up the vaping in the studio.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Do they allow that?

Speaker 8 (28:45):
No, they don't, but I don't hear about the vaping
in the studio.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
What's their policy on members of staff being stoned over
while operating machinery?

Speaker 8 (28:54):
No, this doesn't need to come up. They just need
to know about how good I am and how competent
I am on the buttons.

Speaker 7 (29:00):
Thanks, boys.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Are you still getting aroused under the desk every morning?

Speaker 7 (29:03):
No, this is not what I was after, fellas. I've
got to be honest.

Speaker 8 (29:06):
I was just looking for a little bit of positive
feedback around the buttons so then they can use me
moving forward.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Okay, sure. We'll be honest. We'll be honest. Meshie, lovely
to chat.

Speaker 7 (29:15):
Love you, boys. Talk soon, eh?

Speaker 9 (29:18):
Good on you.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
So South Africa have taken the lead in the four-match series.
Four matches against the All Blacks. Not a three-test series.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
It's a four-test series. No, a lot of people are
saying it's a three-match, only the South African ones matter.
That's not us, man. The Baltimore-Balton is still a test match.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
In fact, I'd say it's most important of all.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
I think so too, and whoever wins that wins the series.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, they won 29-24 in Soweto. The South Africans now
lead the rugby's greatest rivalry 2-1 ahead of the all-important
decider in Baltimore this weekend. Joining us now, disgraced former Highlander,
Sky Sport commentator... joey wheeler a fascinating game of rugby
and and the cliche a game of two halves joey
wheeler has never been more true.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
Exactly or uh the bolt on in baltimore i like
that fellas i'm on that bandwagon too i really enjoy
that um but that's all that matters right now yeah
you're right jerry uh it was uh yeah the old
cliche a game of two halves i thought Man, the
All Blacks started so well after being slow starters. In
Cape Town, it was great to see them come out

(30:25):
of the blocks and playing some enterprising and entertaining footy.
But then, yeah, just as they do, the Staffers, man,
they're clinical and man, they're good when the game gets
into an arm wrestle. Yes. They go to their set piece,
they go back to their big old scrum, their big

(30:46):
old line out, and they just absolutely suffocate you into submission.
And that is exactly what they did. And Soweto, they
were so clinical and ruthless in so many areas. Again,
the All Blacks showing some promise, but just a couple
of key moments that we keep losing. That is the
difference in each of these last two test matches that

(31:08):
the All Blacks have lost.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Yeah, I guess on the one hand you could say
that there were just, like you say, a handful of
moments that we lost that were the difference. Only five
points in it. Seven points went missing off the tee.
There were a couple of one-on-one, but I mean, I
don't know, particularly that Jesse Creel thing, I think that'll
probably pop up in the video session, you'd imagine, Joey,
but Who would have made that tackle, you know?

Speaker 5 (31:30):
Yeah, I was like, oh, poor old Bumfah. Bumfah Carter,
Leroy Carter. He'd done everything so well, you know, on
the edge. He'd flown up, brilliant line speed, but then
sort of chucked the handbrake on, a bit like probably
watching Jerry try to tackle. He just chucked the handbrake on.
We say in the footy circles, sort of sat on

(31:53):
the toilet a little bit, which gave... Which gave Jesse
Creel a little bit of time, just a bit of footwork,
power to get around the outside of him. And man,
what a shot it was, you know, when they showed
the replay and he's like running back, chasing him with
all his heart, like just absolutely pissed off at himself
that he hadn't made that initial tackle. But yeah, look,

(32:14):
a couple of individual things like that, that, you know,
that does happen in a test match, right? And I
don't think you can hang your head on goal-kicking and
a couple of missed tackles. That's the reason. But, I mean, obviously,
in those bigger games, I know it's a cliche again,
but it is always just a couple of moments that

(32:34):
decide it.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Joe Wheeler, you've played rugby at the highest level. You
understand what it's like. When you're playing as well as
the All Blacks did in the first 25, 30 minutes
of that test match, and those passes were going perfectly
to hand. They were going right out in front. It
looked crisp. It looked real good. It looked better than
the All Blacks have looked for a long time.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Campaign footy, Jerry.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Sometimes, Joey, in those situations, can you think, oh, today's
a good day. We're on today.

Speaker 5 (33:01):
Today we're on.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
And then all of a sudden, you forget that you're
in a test match. So in that situation, is it
sometimes easy to... I don't know. Do you kind of.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
Complacent. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (33:15):
You're accusing the All Blacks of complacency here, Jerry.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
I don't know what it was, but in the first...
I'm not having it, Jerry. No way. As a fan,
I got complacent, Joey.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
You got complacent.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
I was looking to the World Cup. I was like, geez, okay,
here we go. We're on the way up. We're going
to win the World Cup in the first half.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
You switched off, didn't you?

Speaker 1 (33:32):
I switched off.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
You were texting your russie after 30 minutes going, get
that in here, mate.

Speaker 7 (33:36):
We're bringing that cup home.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
Man, we looked good. We were bringing our William home.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
We were so good.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
Oh, yeah. Jeez, we were good. I know what you're saying.
I was sitting there watching it with my cousin and
we're going, jeez, how good are they looking? This is
champagne rugby. Man, they're playing a good brand. And you're right.
And I think... I reckon there was obviously the Adi
Savia injury, but then there was just before halftime where

(34:03):
you're like, oh, there's a couple of moments there that
just got them back in the game and you felt
that momentum swing back to them. But no, I don't think,
I certainly would hope that they didn't get complacent, Gerry,
and I'm sure in front of 94,000 screaming South Africans
in one of the most hostile rugby environments in the

(34:25):
world that they would probably know that they're in a
test match and that they've got to buckle up.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yeah, there's a few. There's a few close. There's a
few close.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Joey, you know a thing or two about the dark arts.
We've talked about it last week. I think this has
been the biggest story in the media, the scrums, and
I think also the line-outs. I saw we were going
to the front again. Are they just that much better
than us in both those aspects?

Speaker 5 (34:50):
They're doing a brilliant job of... trying to, what we
call two pod, so two jumpers up at all times
to put pressure on one, the hooker, so you've got
to throw it over them. So Asafo-Omoa did pretty well,
but you've got to be super accurate, because remember, you've
got Peter Steff, the toy, you've got the two massive locks.

(35:11):
Peter Steff, who's, where's the number seven jersey, but he's
two metres tall. So you've got three guys, two metres
plus in that position, So they ever come back, and
then you throw in the mix that they've got their
massive props who are throwing them another 30 centimetres higher
than anyone else. So it is a really tough ask

(35:31):
to win your line-out ball when they are two-potting against
you and putting double line-out pressure on. So... Look, yeah,
it's a real challenge, and it is also hard when
they are constantly trying to slow the game down a
little bit because that's our point of difference as well.
We need to bring fatigue into the match, and we haven't,

(35:53):
other than probably the first test, we haven't been able
to do that. And I've sort of dictated terms in
terms of the tempo of the game. So when you
go to set piece, we want to be jogging there,
we want to be getting in and out as quick
as possible, whereas they want to be slowing it down
giving themselves as much time as possible to build pressure,
but also brings in that little bit of uncertainty into

(36:13):
the callers' mind, which then adds time, which then gives
them the opportunity to get in the air, move their
line out and all that. So there's a whole lot
of mind games that goes on in that respect. I
think our scrum and parts looked OK, but again, that
is so dominant there. Hopefully Ethan DeGroote is right for
the fourth test because I think... He was obviously playing

(36:36):
on one knee in the first. If that's right, then
I think he'll obviously come in to start and that
will hopefully help shore up our scrum a little bit
and then they can bring on our bomb squad, so
to speak.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Manu squad. Joey Wheeler, just before you go, both teams
obviously already in the US, they took a charter flight together.
You can't obviously have all of those people flying business
class because there's just not enough business class seats in
a plane. Who was in premium economy? Who was in business?
Who sat at the back of the plane? Any intel
on what happened with the flight over to Baltimore?

Speaker 5 (37:11):
No, I don't have any intel, but what generally would
happen in that scenario would be your big boys get
preferential treatment in terms of the business class seats and seniority, obviously.
What I was hoping that they'd do on that Baltimore
flight is a couple of the big boys go toe-to-toe, one-for-one,
in terms of beers, and go full David Boone on it,

(37:34):
so you can knock the most off between Joburg and Baltimore.
What is that flight time? Just out of interest, what
is that flight time? Can we do a little bit
of math on what we think they could knock over?

Speaker 1 (37:43):
I think it must be a decent, I mean, that
must be 14 hours plus, surely.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
You got that?

Speaker 5 (37:52):
17.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
17 hours.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
17. They should be at around, you know, if they're
going two every hour, they'll be 28 to 30 beers.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Oh, at least.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
At least.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Who would be our champion?

Speaker 5 (38:02):
A couple of nightcaps.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Who would you nominate, Joey? Grota would go close.

Speaker 5 (38:07):
I think, yeah, Gore's finest. You'd have to go the
southern man, chuck him in there from an all-black perspective. Yeah,
who else?

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Up against Wilco Lowe.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
The big ox. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Joey Wheeler, thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (38:23):
Well, hopefully Malcolm marks and we can put him to
sleep and leave him on the plane.

Speaker 7 (38:27):
Is that good?

Speaker 5 (38:28):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Joey Wheeler, thanks so much for your time this morning.
Much appreciated. See you, mate. Talk to you later on. Hey,
I was thinking over the weekend, how's our top New
Zealand blazing spots book coming along?

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Yes, so we need to have, there's a little bit
of admin we need to do here. So we have
got a graphic designer from the mainland who's willing to
take this thing on for us. He has sent us
through just a little mock-up of what he's picturing from
what we've talked about already. That's in the doc there
in front of you. I think what we need to
do is go back to him with exactly what things

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need to be in there, and then we need to
iron out how exactly it is that we are going
to get photos. Do we have to go out there
with our phones and take photos at these blazing spots?

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Well, unless we've got budget for, say, Derek Henderson, famous
famous New Zealand photographer or or uh Robin Morrison or
someone like that I don't think we've got money for
that so I think it is going to be us
on our phones who's got the best.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Phone um not Zoe I've got like a I.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Think mine's like a 12 or something Yeah, I've got
the 14.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
I've got the 14 Pro, I will let you know. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I've got the 14 Pro.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Oh, you've got the Pro as well. Max. Oh, you've
got the Pro Max.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Look, I didn't want to do this on air. And
we're not phone shaming. We don't phone shame on this show.
But yours does.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Have a spider feature on the back camera.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
Look, is there a crack through the back of my thing? Yes,
but it hasn't impacted the lens.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
I will say that.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
14 Pro Max.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Max so that's the big one wow i've.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
Always thought like you know the function of a phone
is to be looked at it might as well be
as big as possible same with the tv anyway so
well look we the thing is we don't have to
just do one we can all take all of our
phones so so i think we need to go um
out to these spots we'll take some photos it's going
to be a two-page spread uh he's just chucked in
a couple of placeholder sort of segments of what he
was thinking uh we're going to be in there uh

(40:37):
paul shackleton is his name thank you very much for
sending this through paul He's got Getting There. So there's
a segment for how you.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Get to the spot.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
There's a section on accommodation. There is a track listing
for music to listen to. There's the QR codes that
will link to the podcast that we'll record there.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
I think one thing that we probably need to have
in there as well is food options in the area.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Okay, so places you can go to. Yeah, local areas,
local places you can go to. Post-Blazing Spot?

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Yes, I think so.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
Because I know that once you're, you know, some of
these views are so beautiful that it can't help but
excite the appetite.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Actually, you could go pre and post, couldn't you? Because
sometimes it's nice to sit in there with an array
of different foods.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
While you enjoy the view of the spot and listen
to the music and potentially listen to the podcast.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
I would say probably like a fast food joint, a bakery,
and I would say a dairy because a sweet treat
in these scenarios can go a long way.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Or service station.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
Or service station. There's been a bit of feedback on
the text machine recently. around the fact that are we
potentially alerting the authorities to where these places should be?
And now that they have extended capabilities around breath testing,
will they be setting booze buses up right outside the
top five blazing spots that we set up? Well, look,

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I mean, if that's what they do, that's what they do.
I mean, we're not saying that people would be imbibing
anything in these particular blazing spots, are we?

Speaker 3 (42:03):
No, that's right.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
There's no mention of that.

Speaker 5 (42:05):
No.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
I would say that maybe we could put some emergency
information as well in there. Nearest hospital.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
If you feel like you're about to die.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Yeah, potentially.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Someone said, have a look at the book, The Great
Places to Have a Cigarette in New Zealand. Great coffee
table book. Okay, we might need to look at that.
Surely yous have to go rip a cone at all
the spots. Why would we want to do that? We're
not encouraging this kind of thing. No, we're not saying
we're not, but we're just saying. James has texted and said,

(42:37):
all right, I'm listening. So I think first round of feedback,
we go back to Paul. We just need the food
spots would be another segment. And then I guess this
is a question for him is how high res does
he need the pictures to be? Can it just be
from our phones? I reckon it's going to be high
res enough on a phone.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Such is the quality of camera.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
Well, so then the next steps, I guess, are booking
in a time for us to go out to these
different spots.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Next year sometime?

Speaker 5 (43:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Okay, sweet.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Haruki breakfast. So the Hot Springs Spas T20 Black Clash
is back for 2027. Heading back to where it all began,
taking place at Hagley Oval in Christchurch on January 22.
And announced this morning, the captain of Team Cricket, who
joins us on the phone now, 774 international wickets for

(43:30):
the Black Caps, the sexy camel, Tim Southie. G'day, Tim.
How are you?

Speaker 7 (43:34):
G'day, Tim.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Good, thanks, Tim. Whereabouts in the world do we find
you this morning?

Speaker 10 (43:41):
Currently sitting in a hotel in Birmingham.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Beautiful Birmingham. How's the England job going? Because you're coaching.
What's your role, Tim, in the England set-up at the moment?

Speaker 5 (43:54):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 10 (43:54):
And I've been over here for a year and a
half now, I guess, as a bowling coach. So, yeah,
really enjoying it. It's nice, gets you involved in the game.
And obviously, plenty happening. over here at the moment, but
really enjoying, like I say, staying involved in the game.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
Yeah, there's a big gun, always something going on with
English cricket, and now with Pakistan cricket as well.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Am I hearing that you're still bowling in the nets
a little bit?

Speaker 10 (44:26):
Not so much, a little bit here and there, but
now I've got the Hot Springs C20 Black Clash to
prepare for, then I'd better start doing some sort of
preparation for that.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
If you aren't bowling right arm medium fast, what's your
go-to net bowling style? Do you bowl wrist spin? Can
you bowl with the left arm? What's your next genre
of delivery?

Speaker 6 (44:49):
Yeah, well, because I'm... reasonably young still in terms of coaches.
A lot of the guys tend to lean on me
because I can give decent throwdowns. So I find myself
in a bit of a dog's body once I've finished
my work with the bowlers and then end up throwing

(45:11):
for most of the training.

Speaker 10 (45:12):
So, yeah, I haven't quite graduated to mastering any kind
of spin bowling that they want or think that they're
probably going to face. So maybe that's a work on. But, yeah,
a couple of overs here and there and plenty of throwing.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
How much input do you get into your team that
you're putting together for the Black Clash? I see Lou
Vincent's been announced because I think that one of the
key selection criteria needs to be how well can this
person play off the back end of a hangover? Because
that is basically what wins or loses the Black Clash
in my experience.

Speaker 10 (45:42):
There's a number of things that go into picking a team.
Obviously you want a number of different factors but that's
certainly high up on the selection criteria. I was obviously
first Black Clash last year so I thoroughly enjoyed my
time there and it's just a few guys that I
know that will be putting their hands up to play
again and then there's the continued frequent offenders that seem

(46:05):
to turn up every year not so much for the
cricket but for the for the couple of days around
the cricket. So, yeah, a lot of discussions. There'll be
a lot of thought going into it, but I'm sure
we'll come up with people that fit both on and
off the field.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Yeah, well, I did notice that the times when team
rugby have done well is when there haven't been huge
sessions the night before. And it turns out that most
of the cricketers, they prefer to, oh, look, just overindulge
the rugby players slightly the day before, and that seems
to work in terms of a win-loss ratio for you guys.

Speaker 10 (46:41):
They're saying cricketers know how to have fun more than
rugby players.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
I think that rugby players are very excitable and you
can lead them astray if you want to weigh the
balance in your favour.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
And they're definitely less used to playing on hangovers, where
I think cricketers are probably more used to playing on hangovers.
You wouldn't play a rugby test match hungover, for example.

Speaker 10 (47:01):
No, you're right. And I think, yeah, there's obviously a
number of things that go into it, but it's certainly
a great couple of days.

Speaker 7 (47:09):
To be part of.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Well, Tim Southey, thanks so much for your time this morning.
We look forward to watching you play. It's the Hot
Springs Bars T20 Black Cash coming back for 2027 at
Hagley Oval.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Never miss Gerry and Mania.

Speaker 9 (47:23):
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Speaker 1 (47:29):
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0800 428 725. If you want to play, all you'll
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five when we ask you them.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
$ 250 worth of Bunnings vouchers up for grabs this morning,
which means that the board is full of callers. We
are going to go with Joe from the North Shore
of Auckland.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Good morning, Joe. How are you going?

Speaker 7 (47:52):
Good morning. Morning.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Says here you are a linesman for the county?

Speaker 7 (47:57):
Pretty much, yep.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Do you drive the main road?

Speaker 7 (48:01):
When it's sunny, yep.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Searching for another overload?

Speaker 7 (48:05):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Joe, what school were you representing?

Speaker 7 (48:13):
I think it's Selwyn, the new Western Springs.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
Oh right, but was it Western Springs College when you
went there?

Speaker 7 (48:19):
I think so, yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Hold on, hold on Joe. You think it was Western,
what was it called when you were there?

Speaker 7 (48:30):
Western Springs.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Western Springs?

Speaker 5 (48:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Well, I think it's called Western Springs.

Speaker 7 (48:35):
Western Springs.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 7 (48:37):
Yeah, I think we got it.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
It's good that you know what school you went to.
It's a little concerning getting.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Into this, but still.

Speaker 7 (48:42):
It is a bit concerning, yes.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
Look, that has raised some flags, yeah. I can't imagine,
if you can't remember the name of the school, can
you remember any famous people that might have come from
that school?

Speaker 7 (48:54):
Oh, we had Indonesian mystic, and we had.
Did Scribe go there, no?

Speaker 3 (49:01):
No, he's from Christchurch. We'll take Nesian Mystic, though. That'll do.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Okay, now, the way this works, Joe, is we've got
four types of questions that come off the back of
four pads, women's sanitary pads, the Libra range. So do
you want the invisible, the extra, the maternity, or the
ultra thing questions?

Speaker 7 (49:20):
The cheapest, please.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
I think the ultra-thin.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
Right.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Okay, we'll go with those ones. Let's get into it
for Joe, representing Western Springs College of Things. Which country
holds the title as the world's smallest.
Are you there, Joe?

Speaker 7 (49:39):
BD.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
No, it's the Vatican City. Who was the guitarist for
the band Queen?

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Freddie....

Speaker 5 (49:48):
Pass.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Brian May. Which country is famous for the ancient city
of Machu Picchu?

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Peru.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Which New Zealand band had the hit How Bizarre? Duran Duran.
That was the Otara Millionaires Club, or OMC, and the
kahakatea is a type of what, Joe? Bird.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
It's a tree.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
It's a tree. I would have said bird too, to
be fair. Unlucky, Joe. It's just luck of the draw sometimes,
isn't it?

Speaker 5 (50:22):
It is.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
I think those ultra-thin pads, there's some difficult questions in there.
Bad luck, Joe. Thanks for calling in.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Happy Father's Day to all who celebrate. I, myself, not
a father yet.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
They don't know.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
But, Jerry, I wanted to ask you, as a father
of two high school-aged children, are.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Mufti Days still a gold coin donation?

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Ah, that's an interesting thing. Yes, they are.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
So this is what I've been wondering.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
If it's still a gold coin donation, despite the fact
that inflation has been running away, you know, Everything, you'd
have to agree, is so much more expensive these days
than it used to be. But in the 90s, I
remember it being a gold coin donation for Mufti. I
remember that being strictly enforced at my primary school and

(51:13):
high school as well, by the way. 13 years of
Catholic education under.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
The belt here.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Because it is a particularly traumatic experience for a kid.
Have you ever... You went to a few high schools
with uniforms.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
All of my schools, I never went to a school
that was a Mufti.

Speaker 5 (51:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
How traumatic is it when you forgot Mufti Day and
you show up to school, you're in your uniform, everyone
else is in Mufti?

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Well, here's how old I am. I never had a
Mufti Day. What? I never had a... All the schools
I went to with uniforms... Had no mufti days.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (51:45):
How joyless is that?

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Yeah, so joyless.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
How joyless and strict is that?

Speaker 4 (51:49):
I remember feeling so much pressure when mufti day was
coming up. Like, what's your fit going to be?

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Oh, dude, I would have loved a mufti. Oh, my God,
I would have loved a mufti day. I remember occasionally
you were allowed to turn up to school if you
were going on camp or something in clothes that weren't
a uniform. But other than that, one of my schools
that I went to, you even had, like, A sports
uniform that you had to wear, say, if you were
playing rugby at lunchtime or anything on the sports field,

(52:17):
you know, just for fun. Yeah. You weren't allowed to, like, wear, like,
you know, like a rugby jersey or anything. You had
to wear a specific sports uniform.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Oh, well.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
That's how anal.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
I know.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Well, for us, they took the rugby balls off us
because we were playing rugby at lunchtime as well, and
it was ruining our uniforms. And so we ended up playing,
instead of using a ball, we would use an old
Nokia 2280.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
The blue one?

Speaker 4 (52:43):
You could punt that thing about 50 metres and catch
it and keep playing.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
It was incredible.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
I remember one day we were playing and we had
to stop because the kid's mum rung him.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Sorry, the ball's ringing. We're going to stop the game.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
But yeah, so Mufti Day is evidence that it's inflation-proof.
It hasn't gone up in 20, 30 years.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Man, there are not many things at the moment that
are not more expensive than than they were, say, 15
years ago.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
No.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
I mean, it's interesting. My daughter's now 16, and so
she's working, and she's, well, she's at school, but she's
got a part-time job. She's become very aware of the
price of things all of a sudden because she's having
to pay for everything herself. And so, you know, and
the other day we went out for a restaurant. She
saw what the bill was, and previous to this, you know,

(53:31):
she's not been there while I've been paying the bill
or anything like that, and she's like, whoa. You know,
for a family of four now to go out to
dinner at a restaurant, $ 250.

Speaker 5 (53:40):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
And nobody really had much.

Speaker 5 (53:43):
No.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
It's like, that is a huge amount of money. And
just the other day, fish and chips.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
90 bucks.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Is that right? Because I was going to say the
other one I thought.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
90 bucks.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
The other one I thought was inflation-proof was fish and
chip shops, because I went to one the other day
that still had the same price board up on the
wall from pre-COVID.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
And they hadn't papered over anything, and it was still
the same prices.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Maybe some places around New Zealand, but around my neighborhood,
they are milking people for all they want. I mean,
the price of fish has gone up massively.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
But I'm looking here, and I just did a bit
of research, actually. What things... are the same price or
cheaper in 2026 compared to 2010. Electronics and computing is
the only real category.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
Yes, this is why when your parents see you buy
a new TV, they think it's the most reckless purchase
they've ever heard of.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Like, they'll fly off the.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
Handle being like, you can't, you bought another, because back
in the day, a TV cost a third of what
a house does.

Speaker 5 (54:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Nowadays, it's not even 1%.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Well, back when I was a kid, people used to
rent TVs. I mean, that's how expensive they were. It's ridiculous.
They would rent, you'd rent, TVs, Dominion, DTR rentals, Dominion
Television rentals. And yeah, you pay like $ 2 a week
or something for a TV. So TVs have gone down 75%
in price since 2010. But I mean, maybe that's because

(55:00):
of the fact that our flat screen TVs in 2010, plasmas,
et cetera, were high in technology. Letterbox.

Speaker 5 (55:07):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Computers and laptops have gone down by roughly 50%. Yeah.
Telecommunications gear, we're not talking iPhones, which are out of
control expensive, which is quite interesting because it's the same
thing manufactured by the same place, but they just realize
that everyone now has to have them.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
So they've priced them up. But telecommunications gear, talking routers, phones,
general telecommunications hardware, 67% less than it was a decade ago.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
And mobile data plans, which were quite expensive. Makes sense.
Data has become cheaper.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
Give us text 3483. What other things are inflation-proof? There's
been a few texts that have come through on the
same theme, Gerry. There's one thing that's glaringly obvious that
has not.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Changed price in a long, long time. Tell you what
it is.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Jerry and Mania, the Hauraki breakfast.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
We're just talking about things that are inflation-proof. The Mufti Day,
the gold coin donation, still going on?

Speaker 4 (56:04):
Some fish and chip shops. As you said, the price
of a lot of electronics has gone backwards as well.
But the text machine has been flooded and the Hauraki
hive mind has activated this morning on the same thing.
And I think it's the same thing Bog's thinking of. Bog,
what do you reckon is recession-proof?

Speaker 7 (56:21):
It's got to be the old tinny of the devil's lettuce, mate.
She's still 20 bucka.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Do you reckon a bit of shrinkflation in that market though, Bog?

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Nah, I don't reckon, eh?

Speaker 5 (56:34):
Because you can barely give away this shit now, eh?

Speaker 1 (56:37):
To be honest.

Speaker 7 (56:37):
There's that much of it out there. So if anything,
you're getting more.

Speaker 5 (56:42):
Right.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Oh, is that right?

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Okay, now that is interesting. I definitely came back with
the shrinkflation. I remember for a while there, Bog, some
people that I knew who were buying that sort of thing,
and someone marked it up to $ 25, and because you
had to come up with the cash, obviously, and I
reckon the people that were selling it were just pocket
fives on the side, and the people, the higher-ups wouldn't know.

Speaker 8 (57:04):
Yeah, like the mid-early 2000, like 2005-ish, it was like
$ 25 for a bigger one, and then obviously you had.

Speaker 7 (57:12):
The 50 bag, it was a.

Speaker 8 (57:13):
Bit more, I think it was about three and a
half grams or three grams, you know, so the old
standard 20 was always a gram.

Speaker 5 (57:20):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
You seem to know your way around that quite well. Bog,
good on you. Thanks for the call.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
Might need a bit of advice at a book we're
putting together, Bog.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Oh, yeah. Bog coming very handy.

Speaker 5 (57:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
I'm just having a look at, because obviously food is
definitely not inflation-proof, you know. But there are four things
here which are cheaper or the same price from 2010
to 2026, so 16 years ago, 15 years ago.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
Cheaper or the same price?

Speaker 5 (57:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
What do you reckon?

Speaker 4 (57:51):
If I had to guess, it would be something like rice,
you know, because we've been farming rice for thousands of years.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Surely it can't have gone up that much.

Speaker 7 (58:00):
Chips.

Speaker 5 (58:01):
Chips.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Well, rice it doesn't mention, but thinking about rice, I
reckon rice has gone up a fraction.

Speaker 7 (58:07):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
And that would be from, I don't know why, transport costs,
I'm not sure, but one of the big ones, avocados. Avocados.
Apparently there's a massive global increase in avocado farming.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
So nowadays you're getting, once upon a time, avocados were
like a highly prized luxury item. Now they can be
certainly off out of season, but in season, quite cheap.

Speaker 5 (58:26):
Onions. Onions? Onions.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Or onions.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Onions with a Y.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Apparently highly automated local farming techniques, high yield crop, have
meant that bulk onion prices are low or stagnant. Packaged
pasta meals.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Okay, I wouldn't have picked that.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
And frozen prawns. Okay.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Okay, so could you make a meal out of that
and pass the prawn onion avocado?

Speaker 1 (58:52):
I reckon we probably could.

Speaker 5 (58:53):
Gross.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
A bunch of texts coming through about the Mufti days.
Apparently they call them non-uniform days.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
Why?

Speaker 3 (59:01):
These days?

Speaker 8 (59:01):
Don't know.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
A few people requesting a deep dive into the origins
of the word Mufti. No mufti days at Wellington College
back in the 80s.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
And then a bunch of texts about tinnies. Oh, still
$ 2 for a meat raffle at the pub. Trainers in
sports shoes, condoms, pizza....

Speaker 9 (59:28):
We've been teasing an announcement of an announcement of an announcement.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
It's time to get to it now.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
A lot of people have been asking where the podcast
has been for the last week.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
If you don't know, this is a radio show. We
also do a podcast that's not the radio show. That's
been rebranded about a thousand different times. I don't even
know what to call it.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Yeah, I think it started as a podcast intro. It
moved to be called the Bespoke Podcast, then it turned
into the Spokie Dokie.

Speaker 5 (01:00:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Then it turned into the Casserole. That's right. It's had
a number of different names over the years. So anyway,
just a little look behind the curtain. We can't say
exactly the reason why we were told not to do
the podcast intro, but let's just say it came from

(01:00:27):
The higher-ups?

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Was it a decision made at an executive level?

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
I would say that you could say that it was...
How do I say this without.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
I would say you could do your own research and
do potentially why.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
For legal reasons, let's just say that. For legal reasons,
we were told not to do the podcast intro.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
But we said, this isn't good enough.

Speaker 7 (01:00:54):
Surely.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
There are.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
14 people that listen to that podcast every day, and
they need us, and we can't leave them in the lurch.
So actually, can we have that fanfare one more time?
So today's announcement is.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
We're doing the podcast again.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Yeah, the podcast intro is coming back.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Podcast intro is coming back, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Yeah, we've signed some things, which mean that we can
do it again.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Yeah, we can't talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
We can't talk about those things.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
But that's a small price to pay. To get us
back on.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
I don't think we're allowed to say that we signed
some things we can't talk about. Anyway, it's back.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Okay, that's the long and short of all of that.
And it'll be out after the show.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Jeremy Wells and Minaya Stewart. Find them on Instagram at
Hauraki Breakfast. Jerry and Minaya. The Hauraki Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
Oh, Monica's got something.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Hold on. Has Monica's got something?

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Oh, Monica's got something.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Oh, Monica's got something. Oh, Monica's got something. What's something?
As monikers go.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
Yeah, well, I guess it starts with a bit of a.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
You can hear the flu-ay in there, can you?

Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
I guess what our monikers got this morning is a
complaint for you guys, the wider team here. Yeah, you
guys haven't asked me about how my piracy's been going lately.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
Your piracy? Nobody's asked me how my piracy's going.

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
At the moment, and that's starting to.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Hurt my feelings a little bit. I feel like you
guys don't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Care about me. Well, I never didn't even know we
were to ask you about your piracy. I didn't even
know there was any piracy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
I've been ruling the high seas in my ship, intercepting
trade routes. taking out some key targets, taking out some armadas, flotillas.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
You got a cutlass going?

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
I'm actually running.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
The scimitar at the moment, Jerry. Actually dual scimitars, couple
of pistols as well.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Okay, you got a parrot on the shoulder?

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
I am running a monkey. I did have a parrot initially.
You're a monkey guy.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
I put the monkey, the monkey's got the same hat
on as I do as well when I'm out there.
I'm playing a video game at the moment where you
are just a pirate and you just sail around basically
the West Indies.

Speaker 5 (01:03:03):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
And, yeah, and I just, you know, it had been
noted that you guys haven't checked in on how I'm
going lately.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Well, I'm interested to know about this pirate game. Is
it Sea of Thieves or something?

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
Assassin's Creed Black Flag is the name of the game.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Assassin's Creed Black Flag.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Sounds cool, doesn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Jeez, and you just sail around the West Indies.

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
In your pirate ship.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Yes, the Jackdaw.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
The Jackdaw. Do you choose the name?

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
No, they named it for you, but you can choose
the color. I've gone for a green and black color scheme.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
At the moment. Okay, and do you choose your crew?

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
Yes, you do choose your crew.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
Yeah, I've been sailing around the West Indies and picking
up a few different crews. Actually, my first, it's a
bit of a touchy subject, but my first officer's just left.
So he was a former slave that led a rebellion,
and I brought him into my crew because I just
saw a couple of things in him that I thought
would be quite helpful for us. He thinks I've gone
mad with loot lust. He thinks that I'm just chasing

(01:03:59):
after gold coin. But what he can't see is the
independent pirate nation I'm trying to build. He thinks I'm
just after the gold, so he's left. I'm actually a
little bit worried that he's going to come back and
knife me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
What do you say to allegations that there's syphilis that's
run through your boat?

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Yes, there has been.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
And actually, just last week, I had to dive to
the bottom of the sea to pull out some medicine
that had sunk so that I could treat some of
the syphilis and gonorrhea that had been going around. Well, anyway,
the biggest issue that I've got at the moment is
there's a bloke by the name of Maynard, not the.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
Tall lead singer. So he is offering gold to all
the other pirates who will defect and go and sail
for him.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
This is always a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
And then they're starting to come after me. And I
have provided them a good life.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Oh, they don't care, mate. They're greedy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
They just want gold.

Speaker 5 (01:04:47):
Oh, they're greedy.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
And they can't see the pirate paradise that I'm trying
to build here. So they're coming after me. But don't worry.
I'm going after the funding. As you know, Jerry, got
to hit them in the purse first. So now he
can't offer that money to those pirates that would turn
against me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
And the next step is I've got to sink his armada.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
But you've got to remember, with pirates, you're selling a dream.
So you've got to sell a bigger dream than the
other guy.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
That's what I'm selling. But again, they are fickle and
they can be bought. And evidently, his pockets run deeper
than mine. But don't worry, we're working on that. So yeah,
there's the update.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
What do you say to allegations it's actually a slave boat?

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
Well, that may explain why my first officer left. Look,
potentially a little bit too much video game chat this morning,
but I will say this. Something's come to my attention
out of the States at the moment. I've put it
in the doc for you. There's a little link there.
So the White House, whitehouse.gov, has a website.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
The strip club?

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
No, not the strip club that Zoe lives next to.
Do you still live next to that strip club? No,
I've moved, yeah. Okay. Different strip club?

Speaker 5 (01:05:50):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
You live beside another... She's gone from strip club adjacent
to strip club adjacent. Why do you keep living beside
strip clubs, though? It does seem unusual, I suppose, doesn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Very unusual. No, the White House, the political office of
the President of the United States, the POTUS, has a website,
and on that website there are various different subheadings, as
there often are. News, gallery, live stream, election integrity is
one of the headlines, save America is one of the
other ones, and The link that I've put in the

(01:06:23):
doc there takes you to White House Arcade.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Yeah, this is good, actually. I'm having a look here,
and there's some options here for some arcade games.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
Yeah, so they've got little games that you can play
in your browser. They're pretty basic, but have a go
at some of the games that they've got there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
There's Flappy Bill, which is fly the bald eagle down
the National Mall.

Speaker 5 (01:06:41):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
That's a classic. I mean, that reminds me of Classic
Game and Watch. games that i used to run.

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
Yep so they made flappy bird for your phone uh
last week there was one uh that air link i
think put out or the south africans put out and
you were the plane yeah and you had to fly
over the the stadium there's build the wall.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Uh protect the border from the coming horde can.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
I can i say this is not a joke this
is the actual white house website in america yeah Build
the wall. Protect the border from the coming horde.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
So there's people genuinely working on this. There's Rio Run,
which is Border Patrol along the Rio Grande. The supply
line sought the school lunch to make America healthy again.
And there's Trump Savings Tycoon. It's fill your kid's Trump account.

Speaker 5 (01:07:28):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Again, this is not satire. This is not a joke.
This is an actual game that you can play. I'm
playing right now. So build the wall is basically just Tetris.

Speaker 5 (01:07:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
And then as you're playing, so you build the wall
like Tetris, there are aliens, literal aliens coming along trying
to get in through your wall and you've got to
build it to try and stop them from getting through.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Here's the problem that we've got now, Manayat. Reality is
just as weird as imagination.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
And you can't tell the difference now between what's actually
going on and what you think you would make up
if you were to say something really, really preposterous.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
So protect the border. That one is Tetris. The Rio
Grande River Run one, for God's sake, it's snake. And
as you go around, you round up all of the
illegal immigrants. If you hit the outside of the wall,
you get deported.

Speaker 5 (01:08:28):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
Again, it's whitehouse.gov forward slash arcade, but just Google the
White House video games.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
It's one of the craziest things you'll ever see.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
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The Hauraki Breakfast.

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