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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Is the Rod and Greg Show here on Utah's Talk
Radio one O five nine K and are ass live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Good afternoon, everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm Rod Arkent, I'm citizen Greg Hughes.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hey, guess what what we have a hockey team.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's hockey night. It is hockey night in Utah. Can
you now?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You and I are both from We grew up in
the Northeast, Yes, where hockey is a big, big deal,
big deal. I mean I played in high school, you
know all that stuff, and every little town has a
nice rink, and you know you play hockey if you
grew up in the Northeast. I moved here in nineteen
seventy nine. Okay, Yes, Never in my life did I
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think the Salt Lake City would have a franchise for
the National Hockey League. I just never have thought we
would ever get an HL franchise. You asked me a
year ago, I would have said, there's no way. When
I moved to Utah in the year nineteen ninety one. Okay,
the Pittsburgh Penguins are going to the Stanley Cup Finals.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Great teams. That and the kid and uh and it
was pre said the kid but yes, and yam or yogurt,
Tom brass of the goalie. They didn't have it on TV.
They didn't even televise it in Utah. They did not
televise the Stanley Cup playoffs or Stanley Cup finals in
the state of Utah when I moved here. And I
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first off, I'm a college football fan growing up, and
I'm in a conference called the Whack Okay, and that
isn't that is a pejorative where I grew up man whack.
That is not a name of a of a of
a serious football conference which turned out to be great football.
But I couldn't watch I couldn't watch hockey, let alone
a dream that we have an NHL team here.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
So it's a great day. I went to school down Texas.
You couldn't You couldn't even see a hockey score in
the local newspaper box scores and now it's all. But
this's a big deal. It was the state of Utah
for Salt Lake City. I you know, they got a
big party going on now over the Delta Center. They're
going to have to retro fit it down the road.
I'm not sure I remember when.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
They used to play there or the Golden Eagles used
to play there as a palace, remember the old Yeah,
but then they also played an adult center. And I
watched the Golden Eagles play at the Delta Center and
there were there were sitelines you couldn't see in the
corners of the of the rink, just because it's kind
of a basketball rink. And I think this that it
will still have that issue. But there is planned a
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giant renovation to help with those sitelines. That's coming. But
you know, it's it's super exciting. And now, by the way,
versus back then, the jumbo tron is so big, you're
probably watching that anyway. I mean, if you go to
Texas Stadium, how much do you just set up and
watch that giant jumbo tron in the field itself? You
leave that stadium in your neck hurt.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
But just watching up there and the coaches, the coaches
do that on the sideline.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
That monster of a screen that they have it it's
like a good blimp inside the stadium of a screen.
Well you can watch.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I have a a good friend of mine played pickleball
with this morning, huge hockey fan.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, season ticket holder. Nice, I said, you're excited, You said,
you bet?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I'm going to be there at four o'clock this afternoon
and I'm staying till I want to leave that, you know,
And it's really it's good for the city. It brings
more excitement to the city because the Jazz will play
what forty two home games, and I think the NHL
is on the same kind of schedule. Isn't it about
forty one forty two home games? So you look, eighty
nights will be busy in downtown Salt Lake City, and
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that's just good.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I'll tell you this. The Phoenix Coyotes have had a
rough go of it. They've not been a great team,
but there is so much energy and they've looked good
in the preseason. They've won in those preseason games. This
city in Utah generally embracing an NHL team. It has
the chance of really turning around that franchise from where
it was arriving here and then becoming a winner and
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fun to watch. Hockey is fun to watch. If you've
not ever watched it, it might be hard to track
that puck. HDTV's helped with that, but I'll tell you
there's no more exciting sport. My wife came to that
Queen Bee Christa came to hockey late in life, like didn't,
wasn't a big fan, and she absolutely loves hockey. And
there's nothing like playoff hockey. You will know. That's a
whole different brand.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
And the players are bigger, they're faster. It is there.
There are very few dull moments in a hockey game,
that's right. I mean, if you think.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
About it, they playing shifts, so there's always skating going on,
skating going on.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
And you know what used to be funny when the
Jazz were here years ago, before Stockton and Malona arrived,
you'd go to a Jazz game to see players from
other teams. Oh, you go to see Larry Bird and
Magic Johnston and all those guys. Then the Jazz got
good and you actually went to the game to see
the Jazz. Now, my question is how long is it
going to be when you transition from going to a
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hockey game to see that, you know, the kid out
of Edmonton or all these great players in the NHL
now just to say you've seen him. Where we transition
to I'm going to see the Utah Hockey Club play.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I don't know at all I will ever get over
watching my Pittsburgh Penguins. Yeah, I think that's going to
be the biggest deal for me. I think forever that
The answer is that I will always be excited about
the Pen. The Pen's coming to town, which I never
thought I could have.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I'm an old Canadians fan, and they'll be here in January.
So in the bag about all right, A lot to
get to today here on the Rod and Greg Show,
we just need to let Kammily keep talking.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
The more she talks, the more trouble she gets into. Well,
look it is. I mean, I don't know if she
actually she listens to the show and she knows that
we're calling out truth, like we're just calling balls and
strikes here. So when she gets interviewed, a lot of
what she's saying Rod is exactly what we've been saying.
Well she is, Yeah, she's a big fan. If I say,
if we say she is a continuation of Joe Biden
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through and through, She's she's not a challenger. Her first
day was three and a half years ago. She gets
on what the View today, whatever she was on today
and said, I'm with Joe Biden. I've been on the
job of the whole everything He's done is what I
would have done. Everything he is is what I am.
She just basically said what we've been saying. Thank you,
Vice President Harris for confirming everything we've been informing this audience.
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We'll let you hear what she said. Will take you
to Tampa.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
You had a graphic you were showing a short time
we go, showing water surges, you know, storm surgeons, what
three feet can do, what six feet can do, what
nine feet can do? And it is frightening.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You get over so it's cgi. So you see the
town and you just see that water rises the woman's
describing it. You get over ten feet and there's not
a building that's gonna make it, make it. Really, I mean,
it is unbelievable. And what's flying through that water at
that speed? You never know. And I never really saw
it or understood it that way until I watched that video.
Watch that where what that was on the Weather Channel's website,
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wasn't it?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, you want to look at it's kind of crazy.
We'll talk about that. We'll talk about this article that
was written today in the death Right News about compromise.
Why is compromise a dirty word today?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yes? Yes, I know you you have some real strong thought.
I hope that the interview went well. I would have
to listen, I hope, because I did push back on
some premises. I hope. I hope it was respect I
think it was respectful, but I don't know that we
were tracking it the exact same way.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
And there's a brand new, frightening documentary out there about
pornography in this country today and the impact that's having
on our young children. We'll talk about that as well.
So we've got a lot to get to today, but
let's start off talking about Kamala. Now, Kamala has been
out last couple of days doing all kinds of interviews, right,
she did sixty minutes and we'll play some of that.
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She was on the View this morning Howard Stern, this afternoon.
She'll be on Late Night with Colbert tonight. But this
is what everybody is talking about today because she has
tried to convince the American people, if you elect me,
I will be different from Joe Biden, will do things differently,
The country will be in better shame.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I'm not Joe Biden, was her famous line in that debate. Well,
this is what she said on the View today.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Well, if anything.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Would you have done something differently than President Biden during
the past four years. There is not a thing that
comes to mind in terms of and I've been a
part of most of the decisions that have had impact.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, if anything.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I mean, it's just you know, I wouldn't change a thing,
is what she's saying.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I bring that up because of this. New York Times
Today has a new pollout showing that Harris is rising
as a challenger to Trump on the issue of change.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Well, there's some cold water thrown on that narrative. That
doesn't work, does it. That one just went out the
window for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I mean this, you know, I was watching and we've
been getting reaction all day today on this, But I
was watching Byron New York on Fox News earlier and
he said, after she said that comment, he bet that
every one of her staff members were banging their head
against the wall, saying to themselves, why did she say that?
Why did she say that? So you can see, I mean,
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we just need to let her keep on talking, and
she'll continue to dig herself a deeper and deeper hole.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
The true tells when you get CNN just weeping and
wailing over their favorite the one that they've got their
fingers crossed praying will win. They're just very disappointed. Yeah,
this is Molly Ball on CNN today.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
I'm surprised, frankly that she doesn't have more to say
about this, given that she and her campaign know that
this is one of the main questions the voters have
about her, and one of the main things she's been
trying to establish as part of her candidacy is the
idea that she would represent a break from the past
four years and to not be able to come up
with something to say in that moment. She continues to
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not be particularly nimble on her feet in a lot
of these interviews, and this is a very obvious question
that gave her an opportunity, frankly, to differentiate herself in
a way that would have made news, that would have
answered I think the curiosity of a lot of voters
who want to know how she would lead differently, and
she's not very specific in laying that out, and she
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can't point to a decision she would have made differently,
which you know, in an electorate that thinks that that
doesn't like the way this administration has led and that
doesn't like track that the country is on. That may
not be a very satisfactory answer.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
It may not be a very satisfactory answer. Not very
nimble on her feet, that would be putting it lately.
And this isntes Yeah, this is this is her cheerleader group.
This is the one that's just just does not want
to see this. They actually were hoping that that interview
would go a little bit better. Yeah, I know here,
and we got to warn I don't I don't know
if we'll have time throughout the show whether to play
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this or not. But here's a warning. There was a
lot of snippets from this six sixty minutes interview and
this Bill Whittaker, who to me, I don't know. I
don't even know how he has a job on sixty minutes,
because I think he was I thought he was like
an old school journalist here. He was really pressing her
on hard questions and the hard follow ups, and the
snippets that we saw last night didn't make the final cut.
(10:47):
The production of that television show sixty Minutes has a
very different I'm confused. Why would they even allow that
video to be seen if they were going to edit
it for the program itself. But they're not the same,
And we have an example of different answers that you know,
the word salad versus a different answer that they put
into the final production, which I'm so disappointed by because
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I was really impressed by the journalist Bill Whitaker to
ask the tough questions. We never see it. We never
see it. Some reason it changed.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
All right, We've got a lot to get to today
here on the Rod and Greg Show in Utah's Talk
Radio one O five nine k n RS. All Right,
welcome back, Rodding Greg with you on this Tuesday, big
day here in the state of Utah. Hockey officially arrives
tonight with the drop of the puck, not till eight o'clock,
way past my bedtime.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
It is past your bedtime at eight o'clock. But well,
you know, I eat at three and I go to
bed at eight. Yeah, that is true. But you know
what I envy you because you get up so early. Yes,
I mean I'm getting the I'm getting the messages from
you so early. Yeah, and that's after you played pickleball.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
All right, let's talk more about the Kamala interview today.
Of course, you went on the view and basically said, oh,
I wouldn't change a thing.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Joe Biden is just.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
A fantastic now, I mean, for grand out loud, And
a lot of people are talking about the sixty minute
interview last night that aired. Of course, sixty Minutes had
to take the beginning of the show Greg and take
a stab at Donald Trump because they refused to appear
on the show. And I think it a very legitimate reason.
Should he have done it?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
No, absolutely not. I'm with you. At least it's Bill Whitaker.
He's a tough So what the problem with It's not
just sixty minutes, it's the problem he's running too. Would
be it debates or anything you get into this regime media,
and every question is just a is a repeat of
the propaganda or the campaign narrative of Kamala Harris and
the left. That's all it is. The sixty Minutes just
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did recently a story about basically Scott Pelly was saying
that Donald Trump was personally responsible for January sixth attempted insurrection,
which all of those premises are wrong, at least debatable,
but I would argue wrong. So it's not an authentic
place to have a real thoughtful interview. And by the way,
Trump's not lacking interviews, the man getting in front of
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everybody doing it, what fifty times to one to her,
So it's not like you haven't heard from it.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, you have to admit, Well, you don't have to admit.
I think Whittaker did an okay job.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, I'm such a Stockholm syndrome. Your next level.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
He'd get to the question that a lot of people
have won and dads, we'll let you hear it about
her flip flops. She's changing your positions almost every day.
And Whittaker did bring this up with Kamala last night.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Let me tell you what your critics and the columnists say. Okay,
they say, the reason so many voters don't know you
is that you have changed your position on so many things.
You were against fracking, now you're for it. You supported
looser immigration policies, now you're tightening them up. You were
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for medicare for all, now you're not. So many that
people don't truly know what you believe or what you
stand for.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
And I know you've heard that.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
In the last four years, I have been Vice president
of the United States, and I have been traveling our country,
and I have been listening to folks and seeking what
is possible in terms of common ground.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I believe in building consensus.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
We are diverse people geographically, regionally in terms of where
we are in our backgrounds, and what the American people
do want is that we have leaders who can build
consensus where we can figure out compromise and understand it's
not a bad thing as long as you don't compromise.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Your values to find common sense solutions.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
And that has been my approach. You know what I
read into that? Greg follow up? No, No, you know
what I read into that. I'm going to do what
I want to do. Yet No, No, she.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Said, No, I've been traveling in the country. I've been
talking to people. There's common ground there. No, she is
going to push ending fracking. She is going to push
you every one of those issues that build what we're
brought up. If she's elected, she's going to push him.
So that's what I'm reading.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
She cannot afford to land when they when he asked
her how she's flip flopping on these issues, she can't
tell you where she's landed because she has a coalition
of voters who are so frail, who would be so
angry at whatever position she's landing on because they're on
the opposite side. There's not one position that she has
enough support to carry an election. It's either fracking and
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oil and gas and oil in Pennsylvania, or it's environmentalists,
and there's no I mean, she can't articulate anything that
sounds like a medium between those two, and so she
just gets into this description of I've traveled the country.
Here's her problem. What she's trying to say is I'm
learning what people see by way of common ground, and
I learned. I'm picking that up and I can apply it.
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But then she gets on on the View today and says,
I'm hand in glove with Joe Biden every decision he's made.
I've made everything wherever we are, we did this together.
She's she's owning this administration, which is intellectually honest. It
is consistent with what Joe Biden has said and what
she has said in the past, but it hasn't been
what she is, not what she said to Bill Whitaker
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last night in that recording, and then it's not what
they've been trying to sell to the American people, that
she's not Joe Biden, that she's an agent of change.
You cannot be an agent of change and claim every
decision that Joe Biden made as president. Now the interesting habit.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, well, the interesting thing last night, of course, is
she basically hung out Benjamin Netts and Yahoo to dry
Greg I mean, Whittaker asked her basically, if bb nets
and Yahoo is an ally.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Here's what she.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Said, do we have a real close ally in Prime
Minister and Yahoo?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I think, with all due respect, the better question is
do we have an important alliance between the American people
and the Israeli people? And the answer to that question
is yes.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
She didn't answer the question. So here's what's going to disturb.
You're going to hear a little bit of that answer
in this clip I'm going to play. It's only thirty
eight seconds, but hang with me, because you're going to
hear her actual answer. At the beginning of the You'll
hear Bill Widicker's question. You'll hear her answer sounds like
what you've just heard. But then this, sadly is the
edited answer that she must have said at some point
that they have condensed into their televised show of the interview.
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So you're going to hear two answers to the same
question in this clip. But it seems that Prime Minister
net and Yah who is not listening.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted
in a number of movements in that region by Israel
that were very much prompted by or a result of
many things, things including our advocacy for what needs to
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happen in the region.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
But it seems okay, now let's listen to the edited
version the Prime Minister net and Yah who is not listening.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for
the United States to be clear about where we stand
on the need for this war to end.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
But it's seen what an absolute fraud that is. I mean,
I hats off to Bill Whitaker asking the tough questions
about how in the world does he still have his
name on an interview that they have edited the way
you've just ladies and gentlemen, you've just heard it. She
had a word solid answer that you clearly it was
just circular in nature, and then you have this we
are not going to stop. We have to stop the fight.
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She I don't know how they're getting away. I mean,
minimum just don't release the real answer. If you're gonna
if you're gonna put a different answer into the and
you're gonna edit it in. Where did you get that?
That's just fascinating, isn't it unbelievable? And it's yeah, so
it's they so whoever it was put snippets of that
interview out there. They have even trained changed the transcript.
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They've changed the transcript of the interview from what it
was to what it is now. Problem is we can
hear her. The problem is we can see and hear
the actual interview and see the edited version after it's
it's it's terrible. We get it now. Quotes.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You have to pay attention to all of this. All right,
more coming up, Rod and Greg. You're on Utah's talk
radio one oh five nine k n r S.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You're on the Rotten Greg Show here on talk radio
one oh five nine can r S. I'm Citizen Hughes
and I brought our quette. It is hockey night in Utah.
That's right. I thought i'd never say that. You know,
they're not even asking us to say that. Folks. We're
just that excited. We're just we're not even a sponsor.
We're just we're just hyped for hockey. Good for hockey,
and good for really hockey fans in Utah. And there
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are a lot of them. You run into them all
the time anymore, and uh, you know, and a lot
of people that need to be educated on what you
know the blue line and the red line. And I
have a lot of soccer fans in this town. If
you can understand on off sides in soccer, this is
not hard. There's a blue line in hockey. If the
if you go over the over before the puck does
on the blue line, it's off side. You don't have
to guess like you do in soccer. I can't. I
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wouldn't know on off sides in soccer. I'm sitting next
time with you. I'm going I get the blue line. Remember,
you can't go over before the at least one leg
has to be behind the blue line when that puck
goes over there. You can straddle it, but you can't
be all in yep, and before the pockets. So much
is when you shoot from one end down to the
other end. Yeah, you went over the center line and
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the blue line went to the back line, never touched
icing face off the other side of the net. There
you go. You're done. That's all. That's the that's the
face office where they dropped the puck. Yes, that makes sense.
So now you're gonna love it. Everyone's gonna love hockey.
It's gonna be fun. All right.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Let's talk about Hurricane Milton. Yes, has regained strength. Yes,
earlier they downgraded it from all this is signed down
to a Cat three. It's back up to a Cat
five three.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
It's catastrophic, really, it is, given, especially the damage that's
already been done. So we have someone on the ground.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, let's check let's check in right now. His name
is Brian Enson. He has a correspondent on Newsday Shets.
He's in Florida right now. Brian, thanks for joining us.
Give us the latest on Hurricane Milton.
Speaker 8 (20:53):
Yeah, everybody's on edge.
Speaker 9 (20:54):
I'm in the Tampa area right now, where a lot
of people have already evacuated. There's mandatory evacuation all along
the coastline. And I think because of Helene, the hurricane
just a couple of weeks ago, people are still really
scared because this entire area flooded.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
So they've been listening to the evacuation orders.
Speaker 9 (21:11):
From what I can tell, all the roads are just
jam packed, the highways headed east out of the west
coast of Florida, so it seems like people are taking
it seriously.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
How are the resources, how are the I don't know
that anyone's really prepared for two large hurricanes to strike
in an area within weeks of each other. What does
it look like on the scene there in Florida in
terms of the capacity to for emergency crews to respond
once the hurricane moves through.
Speaker 8 (21:38):
I mean, it's a mess.
Speaker 9 (21:39):
I'm in Gulfport, Florida right now, which is near Tampa,
and this is an area that had a lot of damage,
was totally underwater during Helene, and.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
I'm just looking around on the street right now.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
I mean there is debris, you know, above my head
ten feet high pretty much on every single block because
all the house is flooded, so everybody had to clean
out their houses and put everything out on the street
waiting for pickup to happen. Of all, you know, I mean,
I'm talking like refrigerators, couches, everything you can think of
that was a mouse drywall. So it's all still out
on the street, which is going to be a real
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nightmare because this thing, you know, it's got one hundred
and twenty mile prior winds or more, and you can
just imagine, I mean, this stuff is going to go
blowing everywhere.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, what about the storm surge itself? What I've heard
all kinds of predictions, Brian, What are you hearing about
the storm surge levels anywhere from ten feet up to
fifteen to twenty feet of a storm surge. Do they
have a better handle on anything as of yet when
it comes to storm surge.
Speaker 9 (22:34):
Yeah, there's definitely going to be a storm surge, like
you said, of ten to fifteen feet. The question is where,
which is a really important question because initially the models
had Milton zeroing in on Tampa, which would have been
like a worst case scenario. They haven't had a direct
hit there in one hundred years, and it's much of
that city's below sea level, so that would have been
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like all of Tampa underwater. It looks like the storm
is shifting a little bit south to like the Sarasota
Bradenton area, which is still not going to be good
for Tampa, but that would spare them, you know, the
ten to fifteen foot storm surge really like apocalypse situation.
So but at the same time, even though it's spares Tampa.
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It's not great wherever it hits. I mean, if it
goes a little South Sarasota, Bradentton, that whole area then
is going to be underwater.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
So different different reports, but it will it. Uh, it
was a category five, is it? Is it going to
be a categ I saw something that said it might
be a category three when it hits landfall, and any
any newest information on that in terms of the strength
of that. I don't know what that has to do
with storm surge. Maybe that's what you were just saying,
But what's the cat All I know is the category
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size of these storms. What is the category size they
think will hit landfall at.
Speaker 9 (23:50):
Yeah, so what they're saying now is category three, So
that's kind of what they anticipated. I mean for the
storm surge, it's not going to make that huge of
a differ. It's not that, you know, it's almost like
I was telling my friend, it's like almost like when
you think in snow, eight or ten feet of snow.
I mean, it's not a massive difference. It's gonna be
really bad regardless. But the latest model that I've seen,
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and they change every three hours, so it's you kind
of have to keep up with it, but it's it's
gonna be a category three.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
And they also wobble.
Speaker 9 (24:20):
That's the thing about these storms is as they get
closer to land, they start wobbling back and forth.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
So you really don't know until like eight hours out.
Speaker 9 (24:28):
You don't really know the exact spot, the exact you know,
ten mile area where the eye is gonna come ashore,
So you just can't predict it this far out.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
You alluded to this just a moment ago, Brian, But
do you get a sense that most people are heating
to the warnings to evacuate and get the heck out
of Dodge?
Speaker 9 (24:46):
I think so, and I think again it's because of Helene.
I think that people are scared because they lost so
much just a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 8 (24:54):
And even you know, driving in today.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
You know, you get you go to the gas station,
you can just sense that people you can see the
end in their eyes.
Speaker 8 (25:02):
You know they've been through a lot the last couple
of weeks. They're nervous.
Speaker 9 (25:06):
I was in the grocery store right before closed here
and it's kind of a similar vibe. People are just
trying to get last minute items and get out of here.
And I think that I think that people are taking
it seriously again just because they just went through this,
I mean, and the people who stayed their whole house
was underwater, So I think they don't want to do
that again.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
You know, Brian, because we just had Hurricane Helene, and
in the aftermath of that, the information that anyone's been
able to hear, it's been spotty. There's a lot of critics,
so there's a lot being discussed about. So we appreciate
you being on the ground and being able to share
with us more details. I think we're more attuned to
this here in Utah because of what's already happened. But
my question is, what are you going to do? They're
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all I keep hearing you say everybody's evacuating, but Brian
doesn't sound like you are. What's your plan?
Speaker 8 (25:50):
Yeah, it's funny to say that.
Speaker 9 (25:53):
Well, I'm kind of you know, I'm a little crazy,
like I I'm from Florida. I've covered a lot of
these storms, so you know, we I mean, is the
nature of our job. We kind of go everybody's going
in one direction out and we're the only ones driving in.
But we usually find a safe place and we you know,
the crew I'm with, we've done this a bunch of times.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
So usually, well we'll try to get to the area
where we.
Speaker 9 (26:13):
Know that it's gonna come ashore a couple hours ahead,
and we'll find like a parking garage or something like that,
which is usually a really safe option, and you get
up like on the third floor and you can, you know,
you can retreat deep into the parking garage if you
know when the wind really picks up. So we kind
of try to like find a spot like that just
to ride out the storm, just because for a news nation,
you know, we want to be on TV.
Speaker 8 (26:33):
We want to be showing people what's happening.
Speaker 9 (26:35):
But you need to be in a place where you
can know you're going to be able to be blocked
from the debris and everything, if you know, if it
really gets bad.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Does it frighten you at all? Brian, Like you said,
you've covered these in the past, but you hear this
storm maybe the biggest in one hundred years. What is
your reaction when you hear that, Because you're such a
veteran already of these storms.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
Yeah, I mean it does scare me.
Speaker 9 (26:55):
I grew up in Florida, so you know, I went
through Hurricane and Andrew as a kid, and I remember
remember what that looked like, and so I think if
you weren't scared, there'd be.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
Probably something kind of wrong.
Speaker 9 (27:06):
I mean, it is, it is scary, you know, but
I think you just have to be smart about it.
And if you live here, I mean, it's just best
to just leave. I mean, and I get people are
kind of hard on people who don't evacuate. And it's
hard to leave your house. I mean, that's you've got pets,
You've lived there your whole life. It's like your castle,
you know. So I get why people have a really
hard time leaving, but it really is the safest option,
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especially with what I'm looking at right. I'm just looking
up again. I'm on the road now. It's like just
to see that there's debris everywhere here from last time,
and you know, again, it's not going to be pretty
when this thing comes through and all that stuff goes flying.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
That's certainly the case. And Brian a veteran of hurricanes,
he grew up in Florida. That's what it's like down there.
It's kind of crazy, Greg.
Speaker 10 (27:46):
It is.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And the question is do the American people really understand
the gravity of Helene, what's happened, how people are still suffering,
hanging on to life, have no help, haven't had help.
And now we have Milton coming straight through again weeks later,
and it's all that stuff that Brian described, that's that's
stacked over your head. It becomes projectiles when that when
those waves come in as high as they're coming in.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Never want to go through one, going through one, don't
want to go through one.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
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A lot going on in the Delta Center downtown. I
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Hey, who knows who Shaboozy is? I don't even know
who this person who Shaboozy is either, yeah, shaboozy, Yeah,
I don't know. Sounds like cool. I like saying the words,
like saying shaboozy. Someone used to say shaboozi. I don't know.
I just like saying it now. I but I don't
know who that is. Maybe I don't know what the
kids are listening to anymore. Well, we have I.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Can say that not be sarcastic. It's actually booze, I
am man. We have a month to go before the election.
Can you believe that you're laughing at me? But we
have a month to go.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I have an app that it counts down by the seconds.
I watched this and I pull this up probably and
I'm not kidding it sounds probably not good. Probably thirty
times a day. I look at this because it is
the real time poly markets and it has a countdown,
and I know for a fact how many days are left.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Well, here's why I find interesting. We have done stories.
Greg on Kamala Harris reaching out to members of the
LDS Faith in Nevada and in Arizona. Right, yes, stories
how Republicans and the supporters of Donald Trump are reaching
out to, uh, you know, members the LDS Faith in
Arizona and Nevada. Here's what's kind of interesting. The LDS
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Church and it's leadership. The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter day Saints typically will send out a letter before
an election reminding people the church is nonpartisan. You know,
it has it takes positions on certain issues, but it
doesn't endorse candidates. That's why this this email or this
news release, this statement that the church issued yesterday, I
(30:26):
find very very interesting. They basically speaking out on abortion,
political neutrality, and civil discourse, and they're doing it yet again.
I mean, it's interesting they've been pulled into this rough
and tumble campaign. I think they'd like pulled in.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
How about their I would just argue that there's a
major media source here that pulls themselves in, and they
seem to have quite a distinct direction of which they
are pulling, pushing and persuading. That is my take. Okay,
I'll leave it with that. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Robert Griffith is an edjunct professor of political science or
Brigham Young University. He's joining us on our news Banker
line because he wrote an interesting article in the d
News today about compromise and has compromised become a dirty word? Robert,
thanks for joining us tonight here on the Rod, Rod
and Greg Show. Talk to us about that word compromise.
What has happened to that word?
Speaker 10 (31:20):
Robert, Well, I hope it's not that bad. I think
those who we've sort of been, we've been sort of
culturated to think now that all we're supposed to do
is take a firm position and you know, and hope
that we can prevail rather than be in a world
where we can learn from other perspectives and come up
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with better policy and better decisions.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
You know, my background is I served in our state legislature.
I was in the House of Representatives and in a
state legislature where you don't get the print money, where
you have to put budgets together, and there is really
a timeline to that session, at least in our state
where we're a part time legislature. The urgency in the
really of the session ending and you need a budget
done creates that energy to get something done and compromise.
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But also the legislative process is designed to be an
effort of math. You need to bring people along in
a committee bill on the floor of a respective House
or Senate, and so you have to bring people along
to do that. A lot of the bills that the
media doesn't clue into. You see a lot of that
going on. Bills that have that have maybe a stronger
political feel to it, and the media is paying attention
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to tend to be more partisan. But at the end
of the day, I do believe that if you look
at our states and their legislative bodies, in many cases
you're watching that you know, don't let perfect be the
enemy of good, and you're seeing that move forward. I
can't spot a sentilla of that in our US Congress
or in Washington, d C. And my question is, is
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it just there's just too much clickbait and too much
popularity and being strident and doing nothing, which is what
they're doing, to actually come together to get something done.
Speaker 10 (33:00):
Well, Actually, I think that actually that's going on in
the US Congress is a little more similar to say
legislatures than most of us realize. For the same reason
that we just don't hear about in the media. But
there are a lot of sort of low level bills
that go through, and there is compromise and there is
consensus building, but it certainly is not the stuff that
we hear about in the press. And a lot of
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the stuff that we hear about in the press is
stuff that's really important to Americans, and that's why people
feel so strongly about taking firm positions and building up
their base and rather than you know, being willing to
show more compromise and respect, I think the problem really
is that the voters are not rewarding candidates who want
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to be more moderate and be willing to stake out
middle road positions, to express a desire to compromise and
to listen to the other side, and to respect the
fact that other people have used that it is soundly
based as our own views. And so my question is,
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why aren't the voters rewarding people who were in.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
The middle I have an answer, So I think the
concurrent I think the concurrent resolution process is not a budget,
and I think that's part probably one of what I'm
thinking of when I talk about them not working, essentially
is that they don't actually pass budgets, they do these ongoing,
concurrent resolutions. But here's what I sense. Back in the day.
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I remember hearing Chris Matthews, who had been cheat he's
talking head on cable news, but he'd been the chief
of staff for Tip O'Neil, and he said, look, we
understood that Ron Reagan had won a resounding victory as president,
and we knew when we were going in to negotiate
with the president him having won and being the executive branch,
we were fighting for fifteen twenty percent, maybe twenty five
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percent if it's a great day of what we'd like
to see in a budget or in whatever negotiation they
were engaged in today. I would argue, at least from
an observer's point of view, everything feels like gets framed
in a left of center position and just maybe a
little less than left and centered instead of something that
would be more as you've described, either moderated or something
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that one person can see the conservative aspects of it,
the Jack Kemp deal over here and then the cut
cut government over there. You know, whatever it may be,
there's there's way we've seen it in the past. But
I think that the answer to your question is everything
I see from a Pelosi or a Schumer, or from
that side of the aisle really compromise to them as
a definition of what version of what we want are
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you willing to accept, and not really considering more substantively
what the other side of the aisle may may prioritize.
Speaker 10 (35:42):
I am not familiar enough with what's going on back
there to really have an insightful opinion on that, But
I'm just trusting suspicion is that is that the uh,
the left feel the same way about the right side?
Is the right? About the left? The left feels like
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they are going to be overrun by a conservative Supreme Court.
Everything's important to them, it's going to get undone, and
and that they feel like they're they're the weak side,
they're the victim and all this, and that the right
side is going to come after them. And you know,
I don't think that we can just presume that our
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presumptions are always correct. I people, we need our more
fundamental understandings of how we need to get along and
cooperate and compromise that issue by issue. You know, I
can't make a statement.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah can, but can we find that fundamental common ground?
I mean, is it is it hard to find nowadays,
do you think, Robert.
Speaker 10 (36:47):
Well, I it's it's it's certainly the case that we
need to find platforms where both sides can be heard.
And in the media, it's difficult to do that because
I guess for commercial reasons. You know, media outlets are
all playing to their bases, and people want to hear
what is reaffirming to them rather than what would be
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challenging to them. It's just it's hard, and I think
there's a fundamental change needs to take place on the
part of the voters and the citizens and those who
are listening to media to say, Okay, I hear that,
but what's the other side of this? What are we
what's not part of this conversation? And somebody's got to
stand up and insue that.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah, I actually agree. I've never found any issue simple
enough that there aren't different ways to address it, and
they don't actually fit neatly into individual political parties platforms.
There's a lot of solution, you know, finding solutions, problem
solving that goes into a legislative effort, and I do
think you can stay true to your core values and
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not betray them to find those solutions that may touch
on the priorities that lawmakers have from the constituents that
sent them, be it a Republican or Democrat. I know
that exists. I know it can happen. I don't see
it in Washington. And my big fear there is that
the polarization is what sells and is what's raising their
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money for their campaigns, and that there is some definition
out there that if you were to come together, that
that you have somehow failed your constituencies or you wouldn't
be able to raise as much money as you are
if you're par polarized. So I agree with your your
premise on on how we don't want have a constitution
if we don't have compromise. That's that's what the b
Cameral legislative body looks like. So what's this How do
(38:33):
we get how do you suggest we get this conversation
going and maybe take not letting perfect be the enemy
of good further and and and really have a substance
of debate about it.
Speaker 10 (38:46):
Well, I'm not sure I have the magic bullet on this.
I was I was heartened by the vice presidential debate.
You know, everybody can spend it a different way, but
for me, It was really comforting to hear partisan politicians
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treat each other with some respect and to acknowledge, you know,
that the legitimacy of some of the points the other
side was making. And I was kind of taken aback
when at least some of the medium that I saw afterwards,
they were disappointed, you know, they wanted to fight. They
felt like, you know, that we haven't produced good material
(39:27):
for upping audience viewer rates and stuff like that. That
I felt that that set a good tone for what
I would like to see a lot more of our
political debate. Look like, you know, I don't know. That
doesn't really answer your question that I sound some hop
in there.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
No, I think Robert Griffith, he is with the YU
of course talking about oh I got you off, because
there's a reason for that. Now when we come back.
You have a few thoughts uncompromise, Yes, yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
I do to imagine that I shared a little bit
with our good professor.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
And now our audience, I know has some thoughts on compromise.
Is it a dirty word into late today's political environment?
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Eighty eight five seven zero eight zero one zero What
does the smartest listening audience and all the land say
about compromise or the versions of it that we are
seeing play out today. Is it all bad? Is it
some bad? What is it?
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Roder Greg here on Utah's Talk, Rady on want oh
five nine can or s all right? We want to
get to some calls uncompromised. We just spoke with Professor
Robert Griffith. He's at a BYU Universe. He wrote about
the fact that you know, delved into the issue of compromise.
Is compromise a dirty word in today's political discussion. We'll
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share some thusts, but we've already got a caller joining
us tonight. Aaron is on I fifteen here on the
Rodd and Greg Show. Aaron, how are you? Thanks for
joining us tonight.
Speaker 11 (40:54):
I'm good, thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
What's say you, sir? About this compromise? So?
Speaker 11 (41:01):
I have this conversation often with people, friends and family,
and you know, I hear all the time, why can't
they just compromise meet in the middle. So I get
specific and when this comes up, so I pick an issue.
Let's say government spending. One side wants to spend less,
the other side wants to spend more. Where's the compromise?
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How do you compromise there. There are a lot of
issues where I don't think you can compromise because one
side either gets what they want and the other one
does not, and so one side compromises and the other
one doesn't. So take that issue government spending. One side
wants less, the other side wants more. Where's the compromise?
Speaker 1 (41:48):
So you don't think there's common ground or a middle
ground that people could find an answer to Aaron doesn't exist?
Speaker 11 (41:55):
Well, I think do you have two choices there? Spending
will either be increased or it will be reduced. I
guess the fromise would be let's keep it that way, nobody.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
And Aaron, that's That's what I was going to say,
is that when we're trillions in debt, I think part
of that compromise is you have people in Congress that
don't really want to increase those budgets and deficit spend
to a higher level, and then you have some that
want to spend it to an enormous level. Probably the
compromise that you're describing would be going less in debt
doing seeing less deficit spending, uh than seeing more Uh?
(42:33):
I suppose, yeah, I mean that would that would be it?
I but and what's weird is that in our state legislature,
you you have to do that because you have to
have a budget and you have to be able to agree.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
So, you know, I didn't even think about the budget.
But Aaron Rai's a good point. There are some who
just want to spend, spend, spend. Others would say we
need to cut, cut, cut, you know, even if they
just increase a little bit, it's more spending.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
So an example, the example I'd give you is that
we have back in when Governor Huntsman was the governor,
we had a billion dollar surplus, which at that time
was it was a ten billion dollar budget, and it
was a billion dollar surplus. Ten percent more came in
that taxpayers paid than what we needed to write the budget.
I'm conservative, and our motion was to either return it
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in a one time rebate or a tax cut. Ongoing.
There were moderates in our Republican caucus that wanted to
spend every time of that surplus and saying that we
were behind on a lot of different spending, education, other things,
and spend it all. We ended up I think with
four hundred million in tax cuts. So that's where we
started with. We want to return it all. They started
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by spending it all, and we ended with four hundred
million in tax cuts that year. That would be an example.
That's an example of good or bad. That's what we did.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
I have always thought, and we need to break. But
I want to come back with some calls on this.
I have always thought that when it comes to compromise,
conservatives always come out on the losing end.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Well that's what you see. Yeah, I agree, that's my
take on Well, there is that I'm soured on the
word compromise when it comes to Washington, because all you're
talking about is variations of the leftist agendating their way.
That's it, yep. I mean that immigration bill that they
keep talking about. There was some kind of compromise that
was just memorializing illegal immigration and giving money to NGOs
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and not really supporting the border or protecting the border.
And so there were many reasons of the vote against
that bill, and it wasn't because you weren't willing to compromise.
That was just a bad bill.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Yeah, all right, your calls and cummings coming up right
here on the Rod and Greg Show in Utah's Talk
radio one oh five nine K and rs.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
You're on talk Radio one oh five nine kN RS
rolling right along, Citizen Greg Hughes.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
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So as soon as we're done, you can check out
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You're on the Rod and Greg Show.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
That's right, Yeah, yea, it's worthwhile. If you haven't heard
the whole show, you need to hear the whole show.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah, that's true. All right, we're talking about compromise. We
had an interview short time ago Robert Griffiths, he's a
professor of political science at BYU, wrote an article in
the d News talking about compromise and is compromise a
dirty word?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
That's right? So I think today it is. Yeah, And
there's a part of me that thinks it's essential in
the legislative branch on getting things done. It's a game
of math. In addition, and there's a part that you
see from Washington and that is not compromise at all.
But what say you, the listeners, Let's go to the phones.
Larry from Bountiful, Thank you for holding and welcome to
the Rodd and Greg Show. What's say you about this
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concept of compromise.
Speaker 12 (45:39):
Well, it's a mixed bag. Take for example, the environmental movement.
They start out with an outreach atrageously ridiculous position and
we compromise a little bit and then we inch our
way toward hell. Same problem when we have uniparty, when
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the when Republicans and Democrats, you have two parties, but
they both do the same thing and both have the
same mindset, so then there's no compromise. It's just mass
movement in the wrong direction. So compromise is important, but
there's some things we don't compromise, like some of the
constitutional processes and principles which have been compromised via the
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Supreme Court or whatever legislation the federal government wants to
tou to put forth, we cannot allow the federal government
to determine the extent of its own powers. That's a
dictatorship or you know, a communist government. So compromise has
its place, but being firm and committed also has its place.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yeah, and it really does have to be that that
that you know you're coming from different perspectives and you're
finding you're finding agreement, but you're you're comment of mass
movementment in the wrong direction, masquerading as compromises. The problem
I have, and I think you've nailed it, Larry. I
think it's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Well, I think what he you mentioned this earlier, Greg,
we have a uniparty in Washington. We don't have Democrats Republicans.
They're all of the same party. And that's where the
American people are saying, wait a minute, there's no such
thing as compromise here. You know, the Republicans go along
with everything the Democrats say. Now rarely do you hear
the Democrats go along with what the Republicans want. And
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that's why I think this idea of compromise kind of
wrangles a lot of conservatives out there. They say, there
is no compromise. You do exactly what the Democrats tell
you to do. You brought up the frustration a lot
of people have with a Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson.
You know, we have a majority, a slim majority, in
the House, but the Republicans in the House are always
acting like the minority party.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah, they cannot look. Look, when you have the majority.
I would argue, having been a member of a state house,
that when you have the majority, you make you within
your your caucus. You decide you've got the majority votes,
you decide the agenda. You don't allow for the minority
party to be the votes that dictates what you are
going to pass. And that is what they let happen
time and time again. So to the budget hawks and
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those that don't want to spend a red scent, you
may have to spend a little. Maybe they can get
that caucus to spend at a snails pace versus what
the Democrats want, but they should be able to keep
control within that caucus of a majority, or why have
the majority? And I constantly see these budgets, these continuing resolutions,
concurrent resolutions that kick the can down the road, and
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they are far more they look way closer to what
the Democrats want than fiscal responsibility and deficit spending ending
or slowing down at least, it's always just more and more.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Well here's another example, look at what just happened with
a continuing resolution. Remember, for a while, people are going
to say, you know, for us to go along with that,
you have to put in a stipulation that people have
to be Americans, they have to be citizens to vote
in federal elections. Most Americans support that idea, But what
do the Republicans do in the House toss it out
so they can get a continuing resolution and they don't
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look like they're.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
The people shutting down government. Yeah, and it's so frustrating now,
and you could have put a bow on it putting
that requirement. I want it so badly for Schuster and
the Democrats and the Senate to say, we can't accept
this budget because we do not support only people that
are amar citizens voting in our elections. I wanted that
them to try and make that case to the American people,
But they never had the opportunity because the House couldn't
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put a cave. They could not get an agreement to
get that to the Senate. And that's a missed opportunity.
And that's what I think frustrates a lot of conservatives.
Greg is, time and time again, we elect Republicans to
go back to Washington. We think they're conservative, and they
cave time and time again. That's where the word compromise
becomes a dirty ward. That's right, you dn't compromised you caved. Now,
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look this our constitution is a product of compromise. We
have a bi camera legislative body out of compromise. So
it is a it's part and parce with the legislative
branch to have you know, it's a game of math,
it's a game of addition. What we have today is
a uniparty firmly to the left, with record deficit spending
and no end insight. It's why we have inflation. It's
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it's impacting every single American and we don't have enough
voices in Congress to compromise and say enough of this,
we have to stop this. We're going to pass a
budget that looks just like last year. You survived on it.
Last year. I survive on the same paycheck you do too.
That would even that would they lose their minds. It's
just that lone concept of you're just going to spend
what you spent last year. They couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
They'll never get to it, never get to it. All right,
Hockey night in Utah. I love saying I love saying that.
You know I did. You probably didn't get this, but
I grew up close enough to the Canadian border that
they'd have Hockey Night in Canada every Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yeah, I didn't get that. Pittsburgh. Well, Canadians, man, we
don't really don't be bashing the Canadians, bash the Canadians.
I mean, have you seen those guys up there? Just
not there a little strange. Yeah, I'm not a big
especially the French Canadians. The Canadians, I think of a
(51:10):
much like the French. Yeah, just kind of. I don't know,
I'm French. I'm so French. It hurts that I'm so French. Well,
I hear that the French tanks they just have one
gear reverse, you know, I've heard that.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
All Right, we've got a storm coming in, Hurricane Milton,
huge hurricane.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Well, apparently Kamala Harris has decided to kind of create
her own political storm. Now, yesterday there were reports out
there that she had placed some calls to Ron Decanus
and he did not return the calls. Right, That was
the story. NBC ran with this story. They asked her
to come in and she said, well, he's been selfish
(51:52):
for focusing too much on Filoridians and not paying attention
to me and returning my phone calls.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
Right, And he was politicizing at all.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Yeah, he was politicizing. Well, this is Ron Dessenters' response
to that today.
Speaker 13 (52:04):
And so for Kamala Harris to try to say that
my sole focus on the people of Florida is somehow selfish,
is delusional. She has no role in this. In fact,
she's been Vice president for three and a half years.
I've dealt with a number of storms under this administration.
She has never contributed anything to any of these efforts.
(52:27):
And so what I think is selfish heard trying to
blunder into this. No, and here's she thinks she has
no role. No, she has no role in this process.
I'm in contact with the President of the United States,
I'm in contact with FEMA director. I'm obviously managing all
our state agencies. We're supporting all our local government. And
(52:47):
i will say this, I've had storms under both President
Trump and President Biden, and.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
I've worked well with both of them.
Speaker 13 (52:54):
She's the first one who's trying to politicize the storm.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Florida Congress or Florida governor run the sentence. You know
what's funny about this, Craig, is that you I'm wondering
if there's a little friction going on between Joe Biden
and Kamala Harris. You see what he did today, Well,
she was appearing on the view. He held a brief
(53:18):
meeting right and he was asked by reporters about the
comments that Kamala maid and phone calls, and Joe Biden says, Oh,
I'm having a great relationship with Governor DeSantis. We're on
the phone throughout the day to day. We're talking, We're
informing each other. I'm getting him all the help he needs.
And I just think there's a little friction between the
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Bidens and the Harris's.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
Well, you could actually pass it off as hey, the
president's got a job to do. He's not running for elections,
so he's you know, he's just doing the job. But
where it does, where your observation has wait, is that
he doesn't need a job. He sits on a beach.
You know, he's nap time, it's it's time to go
to Delaware, it's time to be on you know, he's
never working, he's never having any kind of press commerces.
(54:02):
So for him to appear, yeah, you know, like he
is like he's like he's like punks. A tawny phil
On ground on face. He's his own shadow. And look,
it's once a year he pops his head up and
he sees something and we derive information from it. Kind
of throw the old Kamala under the bus.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
Today, Ron and I get along, really really.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
Turns around, says everything he's done, I've done with him.
We're arm in arm, all right.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
The Democrats have a new message out for what industry?
Speaker 2 (54:28):
I don't know, the porn industry. Oh yeah, you'll love
this one. It's coming up to stay with us.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Greg Show on Utah's talk radio want Oh five nine
can Or asked great to be with you on this
Tuesday hockey night in Utah.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
I love saying that something about that.
Speaker 1 (54:46):
You know, big crowd game gets underway, Punk drops at
about eight o'clock.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
Good for the Utah Hockey Club. Is it on TV?
Speaker 8 (54:53):
You know?
Speaker 2 (54:53):
I don't know. Okay, I don't know. Is it on TV?
Mark is giving us a thumbs up in there. It
is on? So so that'll be that. That'll be cool.
All right.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
I've got a story I want to share with you.
I was at my grandson's uh final little league football
game the other day. Right, We were with some friends
and a couple who I really admire. They're just great people. Said, Hey,
we're excited. We're going to the UFC fight tonight, big fight,
(55:24):
and they were excited to go to it. His wife said, yeah,
he's gonna owe me for going along with him on this,
but yeah, I'm gonna we're going.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
I don't know if it's a day I think it's
a guy's night out.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
It could be, but come to find out. And I heard.
I learned this just the other day when he went
to the UFC event. Right, And Dana White isn't he
the guy behind all of this? Spoke at the Republican
National Convention. As a matter of fact, Remember they went
to the Delta Center to this event. He was wearing
a Trump hat. They told him to take it off.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
You're kidding, Yeah, that is not a Dana White. That's
that's good.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
Rules got to be a Delta rule.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
Because Dana White Wood, I mean, Dana White loves Donald.
I think most of his fighters do. I mean most
of the fighters in the UFC are Trump supporters. Have
you seen have you seen when he attends the fights.
He'll go with goes with Tucker Carlson, he goes with
different people the place goes bonkers. So that is a
that in fact weird. That is I'm surprised by that because, uh,
(56:27):
that is one of the places where he would particularly appreciated. Yeah,
because there's men in the room.
Speaker 1 (56:33):
You could wear Trump paraphernalia from head to toe and
you'd be you'd get a big cheer at a UFC event.
But apparently he was told he couldn't wear his hat
and take it off.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
That's that's that's that is a Delta Center rule rule.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
That's kind of crazy. Now there's another story related to
sports here in Utah in high school, and I didn't
realize they had a rule like this.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
Well, this is a new rule and it's this what
is it the High School Athletic Association Activities Association. I've
had my tangle when I was a public servant, I had,
you know, my go arounds with this group making the
rules for interscholastic sports. They have created a new rule
that if you have a student who's here, an international
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student that here is here on an F one visa,
they are prohibited from playing interscholastic sports high school sports.
Why good question. Some think it's because they're really good
at something and they're being recruited or there's some you know,
unfair reasoning behind it. But here is the problem, and
there is a lawsuit. This is in Ksel this afternoon.
It came out Australian high school football player file suit
(57:41):
to play varsity says new says new Utah rules discriminates.
This is why it discriminates. If you are here illegally undocumented. Well,
you can play any sport you want. You can play
any sport. You can do it without interruption. If you
came into this country in a legal process, you are
prohibited from playing high school sports. Now, I am going
(58:02):
to tell you on the level of competition they they are.
They are so selective in how they they've done this
and this. They have a history of this. And by
the way, the way the High School Association gets away
with this is that they can outlast parents. You've got
parents that care for about two years about varsity sports
and then they move on. And so if they can
outlast year, they can just move on. They get a
(58:22):
new generation of parents, they don't have to worry and
they do. This is how they successfully continue to do
these things. But some of these rules that they come
up with are they just lack patent fairness. If you
want to say that people from other countries cannot play
sports in this in this state, especially if they're here legally,
I mean, have the rule if you want the rule.
But if you're saying that people that are undocumented can
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but those that came legally can't, you're in lalla land absolute.
That is absolutely crazy. And so I just think that
the student is has he graduated, is he's still in school,
he's a senior, he's at wan Diego Heights School, but
he's not he's forbidden from playing. And so there's there's
an attorney that's taken up this case not just for
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this student, but for all students that are that are
here on a visa student visa that are here that
they think they ought to be able to play because
the state does allow people from other countries to play
sports in our state. Yeah, that's the Utah High School
Activities Association, and right, they will outlast the parents, they do,
and then they'll outlast this Australian young man. Can We'll
(59:28):
be through school in about two or three years, and
then the parents aren't about it because they've moved on themselves.
And so it's a.
Speaker 1 (59:35):
How on earth can they allow something? How on earth
You've got someone in this country legally went through all
the process, greg and he can't He or she is
a young man, right, yes, yeah, he can't play sports
at one diego. But if you had a kid who's
here going to school, came here illegally, he can play.
Speaker 2 (59:56):
So you know what the solution of that is that
young man goes back, crosses a order illegally, has no
documentation on how he got here. Play away, play away?
Come on, yeah, I mean that is just that's the lunacy.
And I'm telling you, I'm just glad somebody is adjudicating that.
I hope it comes to an equitable resolution, but just
it's got to be one or the other. You can't
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you can't say the illegal alien kids can play and
the and the legally or kids that are here legally
are prohibited from playing. You can't create penalties for following
the law, for heaven's sake, that's crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
All right, let's go the election a month away, going
to be very close, twenty eight days, twenty eight days,
thank you, you know, and both parties are pulling out
the stops trying to get as many votes as he
possibly can.
Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Right, yes, but this is a new low in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Apparently the Democrats are now trotting out porn stars really
to win voters in key battleground states. The story goes
the artist United for Change pass Okay, which raises money
through ActBlue, has launched a pro porn ad campaign throughout
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several battleground states in response to a conservative organization calling
for a total ban on pornography. The one hundred thousand
dollars Hands Off My Porn campaign is now airing in
crucial states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Nevada. Nearly twenty
states across the US, including Georgia and North Carolina, have
(01:01:29):
passed laws requiring air age verification to access online port
And we've done that here, right, we have an age verification,
which I think is a great idea. But apparently the
Democrats have gone to the porn industry and the adult
performers and asked them to send a message to the
American people. Here's a portion of what they're saying.
Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
Hi, I'm Holly Randall, and I've been working in the
adult industry for over twenty five years. I need to
address the threat of Project twenty twenty five hundred and
forty Trump appointees got together and wrote a roadmap for
his next term in office and decided that one of
their top priorities is to outlaw pornography. With all the
other economic issues we have in this country, this is
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their top priority. They have declared it a public health crisis.
Speaker 8 (01:02:17):
They try to.
Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Argue that it turns viewers transgender, and the age old
argument that it victimizes women.
Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
So now we have porn stars for Kamala. Yeah, I mean,
so this is where we our audience is going and
this is our close race. Yeah, I mean, we just
have the pornos stars are all all in with the
Kamala And I don't know, I just think there might
be some meritis some of these issues that she was
mocking just now. But porn stars for Kamala. Yeah, yeah,
(01:02:48):
to give me one of those tea shirts. Well we do.
I'll tell you what we have on the show that's
going to come up here, A really good interview. I'm
looking for this. Some young people have done a documentary
on this, right yeah, on selling selling sects and the
porn industry and the impact is having on young people
and These are young people doing the documentary, so we're
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really talking about their actual peer group because they're looking
at the science. These aren't like church ladies from you know,
Startayy Live. These old people and with the bun hairs,
you know, and the gray hair, just you know, being
pure young people as you young people looking at it,
looking at the difference in culture and and all that.
Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Yeah, Claire Carson will join us coming up right here
on the Rodding Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one
O five nine k n RS. It is the Rotten
Greg Show here on Utah's Talk Radio Hockey Night in Utah.
You and I just noticed the crew from ESPN is
outside the Delta Center tonight, Mark Mancy, a p K,
Steve Levy, they're all out there doing the show tonight,
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Big Night Live from selling. Mark was just telling us,
you know, the F thirty five circling around the valley
waiting to get the cue so they can buzz the
Delta Center. Those things are loud. They are because I
live up north and they take off when they're doing
their night exercises. Usually in the summer. You can't go
(01:04:04):
to sleep, really, I mean, those things you can hear
them all over the place. But as former Congressman Jim
Hansen used to say, the sound of freedom. Absolutely, that's
what he called it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
What he called it, he sure did.
Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Yep, Land of the Free because of the break. Yeah, well,
they're called the porn generation.
Speaker 12 (01:04:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
What we're talking about is the Internet has been around
for three decades, meaning three generations have now grown up
greg with access to digital porn. And let me tell
you what is really having an impact on society.
Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Yes, yeah, and it's you know, the way that this
is happening, the way young people are exposed to it,
and it's just a how available it is is a change.
It's a change in culture. It's a change in people's
interpersonal relationships or what they experience and when they experience
it in life. We've talked on the show about even
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the curriculum or the books that are in children's schools,
so that desensitizes them at some degree. And then you
have this problem where through the Internet there's just too
much access. So states are trying to I know Utah
is trying to do something about this with age verification,
but the problem is tougher than just age verification. That's
not some silver bullet here and so joining us on
the program Claire Carson. She's a producer of this selling Sex.
(01:05:21):
It's a documentary, and she's joining us to talk about
what this documentary is really drilling down on.
Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Yeah, Claire, let me ask you a let's start off,
why did you want to explore this issue. What prompted
you to say, let's take a look at what is
going on in America, especially the young people when it
comes to pornography nowadays.
Speaker 10 (01:05:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (01:05:39):
So as for why my team and I wanted to
tackle it, now, we're pretty young as far as documentary
team goes on twenty two. The people I worked with
on this were twenty three, twenty five, and twenty six
respectively at the time of filming. And so we grew
up in school assemblies about this, you know, having friends
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tell us that they had problems with internet pornography. So
it's something that's been weighing on all of our hearts
for a long time. We brought it up to the
higher ups at the Caller and they thought that it
was a huge issue too, kind of a different lens
on it, just because they're older and they remember, you know,
looking up Cindy Crawford on their dial ups, and obviously
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our experience with it was a little different, but we
kind of just took it one building block at a time,
and all of our research and what we really decided
to dive into was based on those first couple of
interviews we did.
Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Claire, I really so, I have kids, and I'm telling
you you're hitting the generation that I am as a
parent with adult children. I worry about generation porn as
you described it, because of how accessible it is Digitally.
You're seeing stories that are hitting the headlines with this
p Diddy and his freak offs, and you're seeing stories
of r Kelly, and you're seeing things where people have
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been behaving illegally, even with child trafficking and sex trafficking.
Do you is this society gets more secular? Do you
attribute the access to pornography? Does that contribute to what
we're seeing in terms of behavior with people towards other people?
Speaker 14 (01:07:16):
I would say absolutely it does. I think you know,
the advertising of her vase behavior and really aggressive and
violent behavior. Of course, children and young adults are going
to look at that and say, oh, well, it appears
as though this woman is happy that she's being hit,
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or that they're simulating rape and she's into it too.
I can execute that in my relationships with other women,
And so there's a huge rise in domestic violence that
can be, you know, really directly attributed to some of
the trends you're seeing in pornography.
Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
As you started putting this together and you know, developing
this this documentary, Claire, was there anything out there that
even caught you by surprise or shocked you a little bit?
Speaker 14 (01:08:07):
Absolutely? I mean, we talked with three current OnlyFans models
that were super great, really willing to talk to us.
We didn't think that we would find that in anyone.
But something that shocks me about their stories is we
include this in the dock. One of them has been
offered you know three what was it, thirty thousand dollars
(01:08:27):
for just one of our teeth, and other numbers that
were thrown out there were like ten grand for a
picture of someone's foot. And I knew that things were
bad and that these like fetishes and indulgences were really harmful,
but I didn't realize how much people were willing to
go for that. I had never spoken to someone about
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anything like that. That was really eye opening.
Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
So how do we put the can you put the
genie back in the bottle? States have tried. There's been
some freedom of speech issues that have been brought up.
Do you see a path forward where we try to
pull back from how how much we've lost with the
exposure of pornography to so many young people and you know,
to everybody actually the general population. How do we how
do we reverse this?
Speaker 10 (01:09:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (01:09:12):
I would say. Over the course of this doc I
heard a lot of interesting thoughts on this, and the
one that resonated with me the most is advancing sex
education in schools to really include a hard and fast
curriculum about this. You know, we shouldn't. We're past the
point of just telling kids how to use contraception. We
are really at the point where we need to be
(01:09:34):
saying this is out there, you will see it, and
here's how it's going to.
Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Make you feel.
Speaker 14 (01:09:39):
Here's what's normal, here's what's not normal, Here's what's dangerous,
Here's what's going to hurt the people around you, And
especially warning young girls that know some of this is
not okay and if it does happen to you, that
shouldn't be a relationship that you're remain in.
Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Claire, is anybody doing that. Now, are you aware of
any group out there or any school out there that
is trying to address this issue? Know, beyond just the
basic sex education.
Speaker 14 (01:10:04):
There are some pieces of legislation that have been, you know,
proposed to increase sex education on this issue. Many of
them have been shot down for whatever reason.
Speaker 11 (01:10:15):
Uh.
Speaker 14 (01:10:15):
I know there's individual you know, nurses and sex therapists
that you can consult on this topic, but no large
scale I don't think it's something that people are paying
as much mind to as they are for age verification,
which is a solution and is one that I think
will help a lot, but that's that's got to come with,
you know, personal personal accountability for each and every one
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of these kids.
Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
If people watch this, what do you hope they come
away with? Claire and I hope a lot of people
do watch it. It's a very important topic, difficult for
some people. I understand that uncomfortable for some people. But
what do you hope someone who sees your documentary, what
the what the message is and what do they walk
out seeing this?
Speaker 14 (01:10:57):
I hope people come away from this documentary thinking that
the years and years and years that they've seen TV
shows and movies have quick one off jokes about pornography,
that they realize that this is a real issue and
it's not something that's just like twenty second goof and
a TV show. It's not like it's something that Peter
(01:11:19):
Griffin will make a joke about on Family Guy. But
it's a serious issue and it's affecting millions and millions
of people. I hope that people realize that this is
something serious and something that we actually have to do
anything about.
Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Claire Carson.
Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Claire is a co producer of a brand new documentary
put together by The Daily Color called Selling Sex and
it's pretty amazing. A couple of notes, Greg Dina want
to pass along to you on this. What do you
think the average age of exposure to porn is nowadays?
Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
The age average experience too. I would hope it would
be in the fourteen fifteen year old age eight years old?
Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Yeah, they're now it's eighty years old. More and more
experiencing porn induced ed yep. And children are answering this question,
what would you like to be when you grow up?
The answer and only fans model Oh goodness, I mean,
can you believe that?
Speaker 7 (01:12:17):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
I just don't even know what's sad Is and I'm
glad that the I appreciate Claire coming on the program,
and I appreciate the demographic that they represent to younger people,
because you would immediately see kind of like that recording
you heard from the porn Star that's for Kamalin and
not at you know, at Trump, that that this is
all just old fogey paranoia going on. And if this
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was older people that were putting this together, that's what
the pro porn people would say. But I think people
of that age are really drilling down on the facts
and seeing that it's having an effect on their relationships.
Sure is all right?
Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
More coming up on the Rod and Greg Show on
this Tuesday right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine K and our as Hockey Night in as
we like to say. Great to be with you as
you work your way home on this Tuesday evening. Already
we are officially twenty eight days from the election. Well
you're laughing, you know, give me the.
Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
No, I'm going to tell you timey few that's I'm
going to just really tell you, yeah, yeah, how far
away are we? We are twenty eight days, six hours,
nineteen minutes and twenty two seconds now, twenty seconds, thank you, yeah,
twenty eight days, six hours, nineteen minutes, and fifteen yes,
thank you. Right now, the polymarkets are fifty three percent
(01:13:38):
Trumpster and forty six percent Harris PA, which is where
I think it's all coming down. Fifty four percent are
voting or betting for Trump to win Pennsylvania, while forty
six percent of those wages are coming in for the
Democrat Kamala Harris. That that state, that's one of the largest. Well,
yesterday it was a ten point spread. It's a it's
(01:14:00):
an eight point spread now, but it's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
I want to wager you a little bit donut or
something I don't whatever you want, maybe one of those
things you get from from the afric.
Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Yeah, bundles a bundle. Yeah, that's another one that's an
unsold We're not paid to talk about bundles before the bundles.
Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Will there be a fight at the hockey game tonight
involving the Utah Hockey Club and the Chicago Boy?
Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Will there be a fight? Well, it won't be a
hockey game with that one. So what was the Gordy
House tat trick? It was something you had to have
a fight in there you had to have something something
in a fight. Really, yeah, Gordy, how GORDI howse hat
trick was? It was two different things, but you had
to have a fight in there as well.
Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
What was the old Henny Youngman line? Now Henny Youngman
comedian who you know, way before your time. But he
had a great light, a great line. He went to
a fight and a hockey game broke out.
Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Yeah, back in the eighties and stuff. When when Grey
had the he had he had the bodyguards. You know,
he had to hit and if you mess with you're
gonna get was one of them.
Speaker 10 (01:15:05):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
They calmed all that down to get it. You know,
family more family friendly, so you see it on TV more.
But I will tell you that there are still fights
as there should be. And when those gloves drop, they
can they can.
Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Yeah, but they've taken you know, you can't come off
the bench anymore. You don't get any more bench clearing brawls.
Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
And as soon as they pull you to the grounds,
soon as the guys go to the ground, the rest
of blow the whistle and separated. But come on, you
can't go to a hockey game without seeing a fight.
There better be. I mean, if you can't win the game,
win the fight, I said, but this is Utah, nice man.
These players are from Utah and a hockey game you
can and they better nice. You know what what they're
(01:15:43):
not from Utah. They don't know that yet, that's true.
You know what. They're gonna play hockey the way the
hockey's must be played.
Speaker 9 (01:15:48):
Young.
Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
The Black Hearts are in town tonight.
Speaker 10 (01:15:51):
That is it?
Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Badard, the young kid who was a first round pick
last year. Great player, injured part of the season, but
he'll be He'll be playing. See here's where my kids
mock me. If it isn't the Steelers, the Penguins, the Pirates.
I don't know who anyone is. I only care about
my own team.
Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
You're a sports fan. I am a I am a Pirates,
Penguins and Steelers fan, and a University of Pittsburgh FANYU
fan too. Yeah well, yeah, okay, but I don't follow
all the other teams. Yeah, I don't follow them. I
like my team. That's it. You don't pay any attention.
I'll get to know the shoota team. I don't know
of them now, but I'll get to know them, and
then once I know them, I'll at them and then
(01:16:28):
I'll watch them and I'll follow them. But if it's
the other team, only if they're playing them, do I
know them?
Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
A lot of concern being expressed about the elections, which
are now twenty eight days and six hours away, about
how voters in North Carolina, East Tennessee and now in
Florida are going to be able to vote people, you know,
just think about it. But apparently officials in North Carolina
are where the problem that is a key state it
is they have altered voter procedures in wake of the hurricane.
(01:16:56):
The State Board of Elections issued an emergency deck the
ration yesterday altering North Carolina's voter procedures in a response
to what has happened. Apparently the board the board has
emergency powers in light of a natural disaster. So apparently
among the measures they're changing or adding early voting sites
as well as the time said sites are available for voters,
(01:17:20):
and moving voter precinct space to be adjacent to another
well keeping the voting in tabulation materials secret. So they're
trying to adjust that. That arrogant comment that actual Rod
made the other day, you know, and where is it?
Ash Ashvielshfield, North Carolina Field North Carolin, Well, they're really
smart there and they're they're well educated, so they'll figure
(01:17:42):
out how to vote. But the dumb people there who
aren't educated, they won't be able to fire.
Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
And he actually split. He said, you know, the upwardly mobile,
the blue the Democrats, they're going to figure out how
to vote. If you're a Trump voter and you're you're
to figure it out, you're too stupid.
Speaker 9 (01:17:58):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
More coming up final a few minutes of the Rod
and Greg Show right here on Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine knrs. We've got Jesse Kelly coming your
way up the top of the hour.
Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Jesse.
Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
Anybody who is a Democrat or a progressive communist, according
to Jesse, is a comedy. Mean, he's a coming. I've
got some good news coming out of Colorado tonight.
Speaker 8 (01:18:19):
Greg.
Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
I love this. This poor man has been put through
the ringer time and time again and he doesn't give up.
I'm talking, of course, about the owner of the Masterpiece
cake shop, Jack Phillips. Right the Colorado Supreme Court today
Greg ruled dismissed the latest lawsuit against Jack and his
(01:18:40):
cake shop. He was accused in the most recent suit
of discriminating against a transgender attorney by refusing to bake
a gender transition cake. Now, remember he got in trouble
years ago when he refused to bake a cake for
a gay wedding, and he said based on his religious
belief he said he was not going to do it.
(01:19:02):
The case made it to the Supreme Court, but the
court didn't rule on that issue. They ruled that basically
the Colorado Civil Rights Commission was biased against Jack and
therefore their lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
They tossed that out. But here we go. Get this
poor guy Greg. Every time he turns around, he must
make a heck of a cake. Because I gotta tell
you this, if I needed someone to make me a
cake and they just didn't like what I wanted to
put on the cake, I'm afraid they'd spit in the
batter or something. I wouldn't even want a cake from
a place that does not want to make me a cake.
Why does everybody sue to have someone who doesn't want
(01:19:35):
to make them a cake make force them to make
them a cake.
Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
You know what I would do, I would make the cake.
It would be the ugliest, worst hasting cake. You e
These weird lawsuits.
Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
It's like, I just would never force a commercial establishment
to serve me if they just, at their heart of
hearts don't want to. In other words, if they just
want to, if they say, if you like Trump, don't
come in. I'm not going in there because they're gonna
spit in my food. I know what's going to happen next.
I don't even want to go to a place that
doesn't want me as a customer. Is it fair or no?
(01:20:07):
But how do they sue this guy? And they do
it because for other reasons it's not the cake. But
I just think it's a bizarre premise that I just
need to have my cake made by this individual.
Speaker 14 (01:20:17):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Yeah, well, and thank goodness got thrown out because it's
just it's absolute blast.
Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
And he keeps on hanging in there, and his customers
are keeping they're supporting him. I mean, he all bases
this on his religious beliefs, and he says, I'm opposed
to this based on my religious beliefs. Therefore, I'm not
going to use the art and the talent that I've
been given to make a cake for somebody.
Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
I've talked to plenty of people and they've said, look,
if I had to have a cake made, I would
not want that cake made from a place that doesn't
want to make the cake for me. And I'm telling
you people that you know, of all different persuasions have
said to me, just as normal human beings, I just
wouldn't want a cake from somewhere like that. Yeah, yeah,
Well for Jack.
Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Speaking of baking, there is a bakery in Ohio, greg
that has predicted every presidential election since nineteen eighty four correctly, Okay,
and you know how they do it Based on the
number of biscuits or donuts they sell something. But based
on that number, apparently they're cookies. Okay, all right, and
(01:21:24):
so far this year, right, you're ready for this, Trump
cookies eight hundred ninety seven have been sold, ok Gomale
Harris cookies three thousand, one hundred and thirty one. I
ever said that nineteen eighty four, based on the cookie sales,
they have correctly selected the winner of the presidential race.
Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
That's, sir, is too big to grig right there, nine
thousand to three thousand. Trump went you know, you know
they did that in Philadelphia, and they did this during
the because wasn't that No, they did this in Philadelphia.
They did in Philadelphia, and that is a as a
Democrat enclave, and they they based it on the sales
of the cookies or some some pastr or something and Trump,
(01:22:06):
actually the Trump, the Trump item was was more popular
even in Philadelphia twenty This is this year. This year, yeah,
this year, yeah yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
I love these nutty polls, but this one based on
the cookies they sold nine thousand, kamal thirteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
We need too big to rig, boy, we need everybody
coming out. I I do, I really think that that
now that he's getting even close in Michigan and Wisconsin
and going to be fun, and Pennsylvania is on fire
right now for Trump. I've got family there that are
saying that they're just there's just an energy to it,
more so than sixteen or twenty. There feels like there's
a sincere momentum. I do think he has to win
(01:22:43):
by really really large margins.
Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
He knows, all right, that does it for us tonight,
You and I will be back tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
Right wingman went, yes, oh, I can't wait. The bumper
music alone will be back, pet up shoulders back.
Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
May God's less you and your family And that's great
country of ours, enjoy the evening
Is the Rod and Greg Show here on Utah's Talk
Radio one O five nine K and are ass live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Good afternoon, everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm Rod Arkent, I'm citizen Greg Hughes.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hey, guess what what we have a hockey team.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's hockey night. It is hockey night in Utah. Can
you now?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You and I are both from We grew up in
the Northeast, Yes, where hockey is a big, big deal,
big deal. I mean I played in high school, you
know all that stuff, and every little town has a
nice rink, and you know you play hockey if you
grew up in the Northeast. I moved here in nineteen
seventy nine. Okay, Yes, Never in my life did I
(00:39):
think the Salt Lake City would have a franchise for
the National Hockey League. I just never have thought we
would ever get an HL franchise. You asked me a
year ago, I would have said, there's no way. When
I moved to Utah in the year nineteen ninety one. Okay,
the Pittsburgh Penguins are going to the Stanley Cup Finals.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Great teams. That and the kid and uh and it
was pre said the kid but yes, and yam or yogurt,
Tom brass of the goalie. They didn't have it on TV.
They didn't even televise it in Utah. They did not
televise the Stanley Cup playoffs or Stanley Cup finals in
the state of Utah when I moved here. And I
(01:21):
first off, I'm a college football fan growing up, and
I'm in a conference called the Whack Okay, and that
isn't that is a pejorative where I grew up man whack.
That is not a name of a of a of
a serious football conference which turned out to be great football.
But I couldn't watch I couldn't watch hockey, let alone
a dream that we have an NHL team here.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
So it's a great day. I went to school down Texas.
You couldn't You couldn't even see a hockey score in
the local newspaper box scores and now it's all. But
this's a big deal. It was the state of Utah
for Salt Lake City. I you know, they got a
big party going on now over the Delta Center. They're
going to have to retro fit it down the road.
I'm not sure I remember when.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
They used to play there or the Golden Eagles used
to play there as a palace, remember the old Yeah,
but then they also played an adult center. And I
watched the Golden Eagles play at the Delta Center and
there were there were sitelines you couldn't see in the
corners of the of the rink, just because it's kind
of a basketball rink. And I think this that it
will still have that issue. But there is planned a
(02:19):
giant renovation to help with those sitelines. That's coming. But
you know, it's it's super exciting. And now, by the way,
versus back then, the jumbo tron is so big, you're
probably watching that anyway. I mean, if you go to
Texas Stadium, how much do you just set up and
watch that giant jumbo tron in the field itself? You
leave that stadium in your neck hurt.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
But just watching up there and the coaches, the coaches
do that on the sideline.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
That monster of a screen that they have it it's
like a good blimp inside the stadium of a screen.
Well you can watch.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I have a a good friend of mine played pickleball
with this morning, huge hockey fan.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, season ticket holder. Nice, I said, you're excited, You said,
you bet?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I'm going to be there at four o'clock this afternoon
and I'm staying till I want to leave that, you know,
And it's really it's good for the city. It brings
more excitement to the city because the Jazz will play
what forty two home games, and I think the NHL
is on the same kind of schedule. Isn't it about
forty one forty two home games? So you look, eighty
nights will be busy in downtown Salt Lake City, and
(03:21):
that's just good.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I'll tell you this. The Phoenix Coyotes have had a
rough go of it. They've not been a great team,
but there is so much energy and they've looked good
in the preseason. They've won in those preseason games. This
city in Utah generally embracing an NHL team. It has
the chance of really turning around that franchise from where
it was arriving here and then becoming a winner and
(03:45):
fun to watch. Hockey is fun to watch. If you've
not ever watched it, it might be hard to track
that puck. HDTV's helped with that, but I'll tell you
there's no more exciting sport. My wife came to that
Queen Bee Christa came to hockey late in life, like didn't,
wasn't a big fan, and she absolutely loves hockey. And
there's nothing like playoff hockey. You will know. That's a
whole different brand.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
And the players are bigger, they're faster. It is there.
There are very few dull moments in a hockey game,
that's right. I mean, if you think.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
About it, they playing shifts, so there's always skating going on,
skating going on.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
And you know what used to be funny when the
Jazz were here years ago, before Stockton and Malona arrived,
you'd go to a Jazz game to see players from
other teams. Oh, you go to see Larry Bird and
Magic Johnston and all those guys. Then the Jazz got
good and you actually went to the game to see
the Jazz. Now, my question is how long is it
going to be when you transition from going to a
(04:37):
hockey game to see that, you know, the kid out
of Edmonton or all these great players in the NHL
now just to say you've seen him. Where we transition
to I'm going to see the Utah Hockey Club play.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I don't know at all I will ever get over
watching my Pittsburgh Penguins. Yeah, I think that's going to
be the biggest deal for me. I think forever that
The answer is that I will always be excited about
the Pen. The Pen's coming to town, which I never
thought I could have.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I'm an old Canadians fan, and they'll be here in January.
So in the bag about all right, A lot to
get to today here on the Rod and Greg Show,
we just need to let Kammily keep talking.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
The more she talks, the more trouble she gets into. Well,
look it is. I mean, I don't know if she
actually she listens to the show and she knows that
we're calling out truth, like we're just calling balls and
strikes here. So when she gets interviewed, a lot of
what she's saying Rod is exactly what we've been saying.
Well she is, Yeah, she's a big fan. If I say,
if we say she is a continuation of Joe Biden
(05:32):
through and through, She's she's not a challenger. Her first
day was three and a half years ago. She gets
on what the View today, whatever she was on today
and said, I'm with Joe Biden. I've been on the
job of the whole everything He's done is what I
would have done. Everything he is is what I am.
She just basically said what we've been saying. Thank you,
Vice President Harris for confirming everything we've been informing this audience.
(05:55):
We'll let you hear what she said. Will take you
to Tampa.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
You had a graphic you were showing a short time
we go, showing water surges, you know, storm surgeons, what
three feet can do, what six feet can do, what
nine feet can do? And it is frightening.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You get over so it's cgi. So you see the
town and you just see that water rises the woman's
describing it. You get over ten feet and there's not
a building that's gonna make it, make it. Really, I mean,
it is unbelievable. And what's flying through that water at
that speed? You never know. And I never really saw
it or understood it that way until I watched that video.
Watch that where what that was on the Weather Channel's website,
(06:34):
wasn't it?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, you want to look at it's kind of crazy.
We'll talk about that. We'll talk about this article that
was written today in the death Right News about compromise.
Why is compromise a dirty word today?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yes? Yes, I know you you have some real strong thought.
I hope that the interview went well. I would have
to listen, I hope, because I did push back on
some premises. I hope. I hope it was respect I
think it was respectful, but I don't know that we
were tracking it the exact same way.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
And there's a brand new, frightening documentary out there about
pornography in this country today and the impact that's having
on our young children. We'll talk about that as well.
So we've got a lot to get to today, but
let's start off talking about Kamala. Now, Kamala has been
out last couple of days doing all kinds of interviews, right,
she did sixty minutes and we'll play some of that.
(07:24):
She was on the View this morning Howard Stern, this afternoon.
She'll be on Late Night with Colbert tonight. But this
is what everybody is talking about today because she has
tried to convince the American people, if you elect me,
I will be different from Joe Biden, will do things differently,
The country will be in better shame.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I'm not Joe Biden, was her famous line in that debate. Well,
this is what she said on the View today.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Well, if anything.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Would you have done something differently than President Biden during
the past four years. There is not a thing that
comes to mind in terms of and I've been a
part of most of the decisions that have had impact.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, if anything.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I mean, it's just you know, I wouldn't change a thing,
is what she's saying.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I bring that up because of this. New York Times
Today has a new pollout showing that Harris is rising
as a challenger to Trump on the issue of change.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Well, there's some cold water thrown on that narrative. That
doesn't work, does it. That one just went out the
window for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I mean this, you know, I was watching and we've
been getting reaction all day today on this, But I
was watching Byron New York on Fox News earlier and
he said, after she said that comment, he bet that
every one of her staff members were banging their head
against the wall, saying to themselves, why did she say that?
Why did she say that? So you can see, I mean,
(08:50):
we just need to let her keep on talking, and
she'll continue to dig herself a deeper and deeper hole.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
The true tells when you get CNN just weeping and
wailing over their favorite the one that they've got their
fingers crossed praying will win. They're just very disappointed. Yeah,
this is Molly Ball on CNN today.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
I'm surprised, frankly that she doesn't have more to say
about this, given that she and her campaign know that
this is one of the main questions the voters have
about her, and one of the main things she's been
trying to establish as part of her candidacy is the
idea that she would represent a break from the past
four years and to not be able to come up
with something to say in that moment. She continues to
(09:30):
not be particularly nimble on her feet in a lot
of these interviews, and this is a very obvious question
that gave her an opportunity, frankly, to differentiate herself in
a way that would have made news, that would have
answered I think the curiosity of a lot of voters
who want to know how she would lead differently, and
she's not very specific in laying that out, and she
(09:51):
can't point to a decision she would have made differently,
which you know, in an electorate that thinks that that
doesn't like the way this administration has led and that
doesn't like track that the country is on. That may
not be a very satisfactory answer.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
It may not be a very satisfactory answer. Not very
nimble on her feet, that would be putting it lately.
And this isntes Yeah, this is this is her cheerleader group.
This is the one that's just just does not want
to see this. They actually were hoping that that interview
would go a little bit better. Yeah, I know here,
and we got to warn I don't I don't know
if we'll have time throughout the show whether to play
(10:25):
this or not. But here's a warning. There was a
lot of snippets from this six sixty minutes interview and
this Bill Whittaker, who to me, I don't know. I
don't even know how he has a job on sixty minutes,
because I think he was I thought he was like
an old school journalist here. He was really pressing her
on hard questions and the hard follow ups, and the
snippets that we saw last night didn't make the final cut.
(10:47):
The production of that television show sixty Minutes has a
very different I'm confused. Why would they even allow that
video to be seen if they were going to edit
it for the program itself. But they're not the same,
And we have an example of different answers that you know,
the word salad versus a different answer that they put
into the final production, which I'm so disappointed by because
(11:08):
I was really impressed by the journalist Bill Whitaker to
ask the tough questions. We never see it. We never
see it. Some reason it changed.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
All right, We've got a lot to get to today
here on the Rod and Greg Show in Utah's Talk
Radio one O five nine k n RS. All Right,
welcome back, Rodding Greg with you on this Tuesday, big
day here in the state of Utah. Hockey officially arrives
tonight with the drop of the puck, not till eight o'clock,
way past my bedtime.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
It is past your bedtime at eight o'clock. But well,
you know, I eat at three and I go to
bed at eight. Yeah, that is true. But you know
what I envy you because you get up so early. Yes,
I mean I'm getting the I'm getting the messages from
you so early. Yeah, and that's after you played pickleball.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
All right, let's talk more about the Kamala interview today.
Of course, you went on the view and basically said, oh,
I wouldn't change a thing.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Joe Biden is just.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
A fantastic now, I mean, for grand out loud, And
a lot of people are talking about the sixty minute
interview last night that aired. Of course, sixty Minutes had
to take the beginning of the show Greg and take
a stab at Donald Trump because they refused to appear
on the show. And I think it a very legitimate reason.
Should he have done it?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
No, absolutely not. I'm with you. At least it's Bill Whitaker.
He's a tough So what the problem with It's not
just sixty minutes, it's the problem he's running too. Would
be it debates or anything you get into this regime media,
and every question is just a is a repeat of
the propaganda or the campaign narrative of Kamala Harris and
the left. That's all it is. The sixty Minutes just
(12:38):
did recently a story about basically Scott Pelly was saying
that Donald Trump was personally responsible for January sixth attempted insurrection,
which all of those premises are wrong, at least debatable,
but I would argue wrong. So it's not an authentic
place to have a real thoughtful interview. And by the way,
Trump's not lacking interviews, the man getting in front of
(13:00):
everybody doing it, what fifty times to one to her,
So it's not like you haven't heard from it.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, you have to admit, Well, you don't have to admit.
I think Whittaker did an okay job.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, I'm such a Stockholm syndrome. Your next level.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
He'd get to the question that a lot of people
have won and dads, we'll let you hear it about
her flip flops. She's changing your positions almost every day.
And Whittaker did bring this up with Kamala last night.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Let me tell you what your critics and the columnists say. Okay,
they say, the reason so many voters don't know you
is that you have changed your position on so many things.
You were against fracking, now you're for it. You supported
looser immigration policies, now you're tightening them up. You were
(13:50):
for medicare for all, now you're not. So many that
people don't truly know what you believe or what you
stand for.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
And I know you've heard that.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
In the last four years, I have been Vice president
of the United States, and I have been traveling our country,
and I have been listening to folks and seeking what
is possible in terms of common ground.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I believe in building consensus.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
We are diverse people geographically, regionally in terms of where
we are in our backgrounds, and what the American people
do want is that we have leaders who can build
consensus where we can figure out compromise and understand it's
not a bad thing as long as you don't compromise.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Your values to find common sense solutions.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
And that has been my approach. You know what I
read into that? Greg follow up? No, No, you know
what I read into that. I'm going to do what
I want to do. Yet No, No, she.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Said, No, I've been traveling in the country. I've been
talking to people. There's common ground there. No, she is
going to push ending fracking. She is going to push
you every one of those issues that build what we're
brought up. If she's elected, she's going to push him.
So that's what I'm reading.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
She cannot afford to land when they when he asked
her how she's flip flopping on these issues, she can't
tell you where she's landed because she has a coalition
of voters who are so frail, who would be so
angry at whatever position she's landing on because they're on
the opposite side. There's not one position that she has
enough support to carry an election. It's either fracking and
(15:24):
oil and gas and oil in Pennsylvania, or it's environmentalists,
and there's no I mean, she can't articulate anything that
sounds like a medium between those two, and so she
just gets into this description of I've traveled the country.
Here's her problem. What she's trying to say is I'm
learning what people see by way of common ground, and
I learned. I'm picking that up and I can apply it.
(15:45):
But then she gets on on the View today and says,
I'm hand in glove with Joe Biden every decision he's made.
I've made everything wherever we are, we did this together.
She's she's owning this administration, which is intellectually honest. It
is consistent with what Joe Biden has said and what
she has said in the past, but it hasn't been
what she is, not what she said to Bill Whitaker
(16:06):
last night in that recording, and then it's not what
they've been trying to sell to the American people, that
she's not Joe Biden, that she's an agent of change.
You cannot be an agent of change and claim every
decision that Joe Biden made as president. Now the interesting habit.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, well, the interesting thing last night, of course, is
she basically hung out Benjamin Netts and Yahoo to dry
Greg I mean, Whittaker asked her basically, if bb nets
and Yahoo is an ally.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Here's what she.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Said, do we have a real close ally in Prime
Minister and Yahoo?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I think, with all due respect, the better question is
do we have an important alliance between the American people
and the Israeli people? And the answer to that question
is yes.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
She didn't answer the question. So here's what's going to disturb.
You're going to hear a little bit of that answer
in this clip I'm going to play. It's only thirty
eight seconds, but hang with me, because you're going to
hear her actual answer. At the beginning of the You'll
hear Bill Widicker's question. You'll hear her answer sounds like
what you've just heard. But then this, sadly is the
edited answer that she must have said at some point
that they have condensed into their televised show of the interview.
(17:16):
So you're going to hear two answers to the same
question in this clip. But it seems that Prime Minister
net and Yah who is not listening.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted
in a number of movements in that region by Israel
that were very much prompted by or a result of
many things, things including our advocacy for what needs to
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happen in the region.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
But it seems okay, now let's listen to the edited
version the Prime Minister net and Yah who is not listening.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for
the United States to be clear about where we stand
on the need for this war to end.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
But it's seen what an absolute fraud that is. I mean,
I hats off to Bill Whitaker asking the tough questions
about how in the world does he still have his
name on an interview that they have edited the way
you've just ladies and gentlemen, you've just heard it. She
had a word solid answer that you clearly it was
just circular in nature, and then you have this we
are not going to stop. We have to stop the fight.
(18:23):
She I don't know how they're getting away. I mean,
minimum just don't release the real answer. If you're gonna
if you're gonna put a different answer into the and
you're gonna edit it in. Where did you get that?
That's just fascinating, isn't it unbelievable? And it's yeah, so
it's they so whoever it was put snippets of that
interview out there. They have even trained changed the transcript.
(18:45):
They've changed the transcript of the interview from what it
was to what it is now. Problem is we can
hear her. The problem is we can see and hear
the actual interview and see the edited version after it's
it's it's terrible. We get it now. Quotes.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You have to pay attention to all of this. All right,
more coming up, Rod and Greg. You're on Utah's talk
radio one oh five nine k n r S.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You're on the Rotten Greg Show here on talk radio
one oh five nine can r S. I'm Citizen Hughes
and I brought our quette. It is hockey night in Utah.
That's right. I thought i'd never say that. You know,
they're not even asking us to say that. Folks. We're
just that excited. We're just we're not even a sponsor.
We're just we're just hyped for hockey. Good for hockey,
and good for really hockey fans in Utah. And there
(19:26):
are a lot of them. You run into them all
the time anymore, and uh, you know, and a lot
of people that need to be educated on what you
know the blue line and the red line. And I
have a lot of soccer fans in this town. If
you can understand on off sides in soccer, this is
not hard. There's a blue line in hockey. If the
if you go over the over before the puck does
on the blue line, it's off side. You don't have
to guess like you do in soccer. I can't. I
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wouldn't know on off sides in soccer. I'm sitting next
time with you. I'm going I get the blue line. Remember,
you can't go over before the at least one leg
has to be behind the blue line when that puck
goes over there. You can straddle it, but you can't
be all in yep, and before the pockets. So much
is when you shoot from one end down to the
other end. Yeah, you went over the center line and
(20:09):
the blue line went to the back line, never touched
icing face off the other side of the net. There
you go. You're done. That's all. That's the that's the
face office where they dropped the puck. Yes, that makes sense.
So now you're gonna love it. Everyone's gonna love hockey.
It's gonna be fun. All right.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Let's talk about Hurricane Milton. Yes, has regained strength. Yes,
earlier they downgraded it from all this is signed down
to a Cat three. It's back up to a Cat
five three.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
It's catastrophic, really, it is, given, especially the damage that's
already been done. So we have someone on the ground.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, let's check let's check in right now. His name
is Brian Enson. He has a correspondent on Newsday Shets.
He's in Florida right now. Brian, thanks for joining us.
Give us the latest on Hurricane Milton.
Speaker 8 (20:53):
Yeah, everybody's on edge.
Speaker 9 (20:54):
I'm in the Tampa area right now, where a lot
of people have already evacuated. There's mandatory evacuation all along
the coastline. And I think because of Helene, the hurricane
just a couple of weeks ago, people are still really
scared because this entire area flooded.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
So they've been listening to the evacuation orders.
Speaker 9 (21:11):
From what I can tell, all the roads are just
jam packed, the highways headed east out of the west
coast of Florida, so it seems like people are taking
it seriously.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
How are the resources, how are the I don't know
that anyone's really prepared for two large hurricanes to strike
in an area within weeks of each other. What does
it look like on the scene there in Florida in
terms of the capacity to for emergency crews to respond
once the hurricane moves through.
Speaker 8 (21:38):
I mean, it's a mess.
Speaker 9 (21:39):
I'm in Gulfport, Florida right now, which is near Tampa,
and this is an area that had a lot of damage,
was totally underwater during Helene, and.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
I'm just looking around on the street right now.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
I mean there is debris, you know, above my head
ten feet high pretty much on every single block because
all the house is flooded, so everybody had to clean
out their houses and put everything out on the street
waiting for pickup to happen. Of all, you know, I mean,
I'm talking like refrigerators, couches, everything you can think of
that was a mouse drywall. So it's all still out
on the street, which is going to be a real
(22:09):
nightmare because this thing, you know, it's got one hundred
and twenty mile prior winds or more, and you can
just imagine, I mean, this stuff is going to go
blowing everywhere.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, what about the storm surge itself? What I've heard
all kinds of predictions, Brian, What are you hearing about
the storm surge levels anywhere from ten feet up to
fifteen to twenty feet of a storm surge. Do they
have a better handle on anything as of yet when
it comes to storm surge.
Speaker 9 (22:34):
Yeah, there's definitely going to be a storm surge, like
you said, of ten to fifteen feet. The question is where,
which is a really important question because initially the models
had Milton zeroing in on Tampa, which would have been
like a worst case scenario. They haven't had a direct
hit there in one hundred years, and it's much of
that city's below sea level, so that would have been
(22:55):
like all of Tampa underwater. It looks like the storm
is shifting a little bit south to like the Sarasota
Bradenton area, which is still not going to be good
for Tampa, but that would spare them, you know, the
ten to fifteen foot storm surge really like apocalypse situation.
So but at the same time, even though it's spares Tampa.
(23:16):
It's not great wherever it hits. I mean, if it
goes a little South Sarasota, Bradentton, that whole area then
is going to be underwater.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
So different different reports, but it will it. Uh, it
was a category five, is it? Is it going to
be a categ I saw something that said it might
be a category three when it hits landfall, and any
any newest information on that in terms of the strength
of that. I don't know what that has to do
with storm surge. Maybe that's what you were just saying,
But what's the cat All I know is the category
(23:44):
size of these storms. What is the category size they
think will hit landfall at.
Speaker 9 (23:50):
Yeah, so what they're saying now is category three, So
that's kind of what they anticipated. I mean for the
storm surge, it's not going to make that huge of
a differ. It's not that, you know, it's almost like
I was telling my friend, it's like almost like when
you think in snow, eight or ten feet of snow.
I mean, it's not a massive difference. It's gonna be
really bad regardless. But the latest model that I've seen,
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and they change every three hours, so it's you kind
of have to keep up with it, but it's it's
gonna be a category three.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
And they also wobble.
Speaker 9 (24:20):
That's the thing about these storms is as they get
closer to land, they start wobbling back and forth.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
So you really don't know until like eight hours out.
Speaker 9 (24:28):
You don't really know the exact spot, the exact you know,
ten mile area where the eye is gonna come ashore,
So you just can't predict it this far out.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
You alluded to this just a moment ago, Brian, But
do you get a sense that most people are heating
to the warnings to evacuate and get the heck out
of Dodge?
Speaker 9 (24:46):
I think so, and I think again it's because of Helene.
I think that people are scared because they lost so
much just a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 8 (24:54):
And even you know, driving in today.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
You know, you get you go to the gas station,
you can just sense that people you can see the
end in their eyes.
Speaker 8 (25:02):
You know they've been through a lot the last couple
of weeks. They're nervous.
Speaker 9 (25:06):
I was in the grocery store right before closed here
and it's kind of a similar vibe. People are just
trying to get last minute items and get out of here.
And I think that I think that people are taking
it seriously again just because they just went through this,
I mean, and the people who stayed their whole house
was underwater, So I think they don't want to do
that again.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
You know, Brian, because we just had Hurricane Helene, and
in the aftermath of that, the information that anyone's been
able to hear, it's been spotty. There's a lot of critics,
so there's a lot being discussed about. So we appreciate
you being on the ground and being able to share
with us more details. I think we're more attuned to
this here in Utah because of what's already happened. But
my question is, what are you going to do? They're
(25:45):
all I keep hearing you say everybody's evacuating, but Brian
doesn't sound like you are. What's your plan?
Speaker 8 (25:50):
Yeah, it's funny to say that.
Speaker 9 (25:53):
Well, I'm kind of you know, I'm a little crazy,
like I I'm from Florida. I've covered a lot of
these storms, so you know, we I mean, is the
nature of our job. We kind of go everybody's going
in one direction out and we're the only ones driving in.
But we usually find a safe place and we you know,
the crew I'm with, we've done this a bunch of times.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
So usually, well we'll try to get to the area
where we.
Speaker 9 (26:13):
Know that it's gonna come ashore a couple hours ahead,
and we'll find like a parking garage or something like that,
which is usually a really safe option, and you get
up like on the third floor and you can, you know,
you can retreat deep into the parking garage if you
know when the wind really picks up. So we kind
of try to like find a spot like that just
to ride out the storm, just because for a news nation,
you know, we want to be on TV.
Speaker 8 (26:33):
We want to be showing people what's happening.
Speaker 9 (26:35):
But you need to be in a place where you
can know you're going to be able to be blocked
from the debris and everything, if you know, if it
really gets bad.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Does it frighten you at all? Brian, Like you said,
you've covered these in the past, but you hear this
storm maybe the biggest in one hundred years. What is
your reaction when you hear that, Because you're such a
veteran already of these storms.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
Yeah, I mean it does scare me.
Speaker 9 (26:55):
I grew up in Florida, so you know, I went
through Hurricane and Andrew as a kid, and I remember
remember what that looked like, and so I think if
you weren't scared, there'd be.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
Probably something kind of wrong.
Speaker 9 (27:06):
I mean, it is, it is scary, you know, but
I think you just have to be smart about it.
And if you live here, I mean, it's just best
to just leave. I mean, and I get people are
kind of hard on people who don't evacuate. And it's
hard to leave your house. I mean, that's you've got pets,
You've lived there your whole life. It's like your castle,
you know. So I get why people have a really
hard time leaving, but it really is the safest option,
(27:27):
especially with what I'm looking at right. I'm just looking
up again. I'm on the road now. It's like just
to see that there's debris everywhere here from last time,
and you know, again, it's not going to be pretty
when this thing comes through and all that stuff goes flying.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
That's certainly the case. And Brian a veteran of hurricanes,
he grew up in Florida. That's what it's like down there.
It's kind of crazy, Greg.
Speaker 10 (27:46):
It is.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And the question is do the American people really understand
the gravity of Helene, what's happened, how people are still suffering,
hanging on to life, have no help, haven't had help.
And now we have Milton coming straight through again weeks later,
and it's all that stuff that Brian described, that's that's
stacked over your head. It becomes projectiles when that when
those waves come in as high as they're coming in.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Never want to go through one, going through one, don't
want to go through one.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
All right, more coming up on The Rod and Greg Show,
of The Rod and Greg Show here on Utah's Talk
Radio one oh five nine live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
I'm Rod Arkent. Whoops, Now you can speak. I control
your butts? Do You don't know how gratifying that is.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I know you love it too, you love it. That
wasn't even a mistake, lads, gentlemen, He purposely doesn't know
answers me. I had the wrong button, I get I
get shadow banded on this program, So you know, he
bans me. He's he's he's like, he's like Twitter before
Elon Musk got there. Okay, that's what he is.
Speaker 10 (28:45):
Now.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I am citizen Hughes uh, and this is the rock
great show.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
A lot going on in the Delta Center downtown. I
bet there having fun down there.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Hey, who knows who Shaboozy is? I don't even know
who this person who Shaboozy is either, yeah, shaboozy, Yeah,
I don't know. Sounds like cool. I like saying the words,
like saying shaboozy. Someone used to say shaboozi. I don't know.
I just like saying it now. I but I don't
know who that is. Maybe I don't know what the
kids are listening to anymore. Well, we have I.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Can say that not be sarcastic. It's actually booze, I
am man. We have a month to go before the election.
Can you believe that you're laughing at me? But we
have a month to go.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I have an app that it counts down by the seconds.
I watched this and I pull this up probably and
I'm not kidding it sounds probably not good. Probably thirty
times a day. I look at this because it is
the real time poly markets and it has a countdown,
and I know for a fact how many days are left.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Well, here's why I find interesting. We have done stories.
Greg on Kamala Harris reaching out to members of the
LDS Faith in Nevada and in Arizona. Right, yes, stories
how Republicans and the supporters of Donald Trump are reaching
out to, uh, you know, members the LDS Faith in
Arizona and Nevada. Here's what's kind of interesting. The LDS
(30:05):
Church and it's leadership. The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter day Saints typically will send out a letter before
an election reminding people the church is nonpartisan. You know,
it has it takes positions on certain issues, but it
doesn't endorse candidates. That's why this this email or this
news release, this statement that the church issued yesterday, I
(30:26):
find very very interesting. They basically speaking out on abortion,
political neutrality, and civil discourse, and they're doing it yet again.
I mean, it's interesting they've been pulled into this rough
and tumble campaign. I think they'd like pulled in.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
How about their I would just argue that there's a
major media source here that pulls themselves in, and they
seem to have quite a distinct direction of which they
are pulling, pushing and persuading. That is my take. Okay,
I'll leave it with that. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Robert Griffith is an edjunct professor of political science or
Brigham Young University. He's joining us on our news Banker
line because he wrote an interesting article in the d
News today about compromise and has compromised become a dirty word? Robert,
thanks for joining us tonight here on the Rod, Rod
and Greg Show. Talk to us about that word compromise.
What has happened to that word?
Speaker 10 (31:20):
Robert, Well, I hope it's not that bad. I think
those who we've sort of been, we've been sort of
culturated to think now that all we're supposed to do
is take a firm position and you know, and hope
that we can prevail rather than be in a world
where we can learn from other perspectives and come up
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with better policy and better decisions.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
You know, my background is I served in our state legislature.
I was in the House of Representatives and in a
state legislature where you don't get the print money, where
you have to put budgets together, and there is really
a timeline to that session, at least in our state
where we're a part time legislature. The urgency in the
really of the session ending and you need a budget
done creates that energy to get something done and compromise.
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But also the legislative process is designed to be an
effort of math. You need to bring people along in
a committee bill on the floor of a respective House
or Senate, and so you have to bring people along
to do that. A lot of the bills that the
media doesn't clue into. You see a lot of that
going on. Bills that have that have maybe a stronger
political feel to it, and the media is paying attention
(32:30):
to tend to be more partisan. But at the end
of the day, I do believe that if you look
at our states and their legislative bodies, in many cases
you're watching that you know, don't let perfect be the
enemy of good, and you're seeing that move forward. I
can't spot a sentilla of that in our US Congress
or in Washington, d C. And my question is, is
(32:50):
it just there's just too much clickbait and too much
popularity and being strident and doing nothing, which is what
they're doing, to actually come together to get something done.
Speaker 10 (33:00):
Well, Actually, I think that actually that's going on in
the US Congress is a little more similar to say
legislatures than most of us realize. For the same reason
that we just don't hear about in the media. But
there are a lot of sort of low level bills
that go through, and there is compromise and there is
consensus building, but it certainly is not the stuff that
we hear about in the press. And a lot of
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the stuff that we hear about in the press is
stuff that's really important to Americans, and that's why people
feel so strongly about taking firm positions and building up
their base and rather than you know, being willing to
show more compromise and respect, I think the problem really
is that the voters are not rewarding candidates who want
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to be more moderate and be willing to stake out
middle road positions, to express a desire to compromise and
to listen to the other side, and to respect the
fact that other people have used that it is soundly
based as our own views. And so my question is,
(34:03):
why aren't the voters rewarding people who were in.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
The middle I have an answer, So I think the
concurrent I think the concurrent resolution process is not a budget,
and I think that's part probably one of what I'm
thinking of when I talk about them not working, essentially
is that they don't actually pass budgets, they do these ongoing,
concurrent resolutions. But here's what I sense. Back in the day.
(34:27):
I remember hearing Chris Matthews, who had been cheat he's
talking head on cable news, but he'd been the chief
of staff for Tip O'Neil, and he said, look, we
understood that Ron Reagan had won a resounding victory as president,
and we knew when we were going in to negotiate
with the president him having won and being the executive branch,
we were fighting for fifteen twenty percent, maybe twenty five
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percent if it's a great day of what we'd like
to see in a budget or in whatever negotiation they
were engaged in today. I would argue, at least from
an observer's point of view, everything feels like gets framed
in a left of center position and just maybe a
little less than left and centered instead of something that
would be more as you've described, either moderated or something
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that one person can see the conservative aspects of it,
the Jack Kemp deal over here and then the cut
cut government over there. You know, whatever it may be,
there's there's way we've seen it in the past. But
I think that the answer to your question is everything
I see from a Pelosi or a Schumer, or from
that side of the aisle really compromise to them as
a definition of what version of what we want are
(35:31):
you willing to accept, and not really considering more substantively
what the other side of the aisle may may prioritize.
Speaker 10 (35:42):
I am not familiar enough with what's going on back
there to really have an insightful opinion on that, But
I'm just trusting suspicion is that is that the uh,
the left feel the same way about the right side?
Is the right? About the left? The left feels like
(36:02):
they are going to be overrun by a conservative Supreme Court.
Everything's important to them, it's going to get undone, and
and that they feel like they're they're the weak side,
they're the victim and all this, and that the right
side is going to come after them. And you know,
I don't think that we can just presume that our
(36:23):
presumptions are always correct. I people, we need our more
fundamental understandings of how we need to get along and
cooperate and compromise that issue by issue. You know, I
can't make a statement.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah can, but can we find that fundamental common ground?
I mean, is it is it hard to find nowadays,
do you think, Robert.
Speaker 10 (36:47):
Well, I it's it's it's certainly the case that we
need to find platforms where both sides can be heard.
And in the media, it's difficult to do that because
I guess for commercial reasons. You know, media outlets are
all playing to their bases, and people want to hear
what is reaffirming to them rather than what would be
(37:10):
challenging to them. It's just it's hard, and I think
there's a fundamental change needs to take place on the
part of the voters and the citizens and those who
are listening to media to say, Okay, I hear that,
but what's the other side of this? What are we
what's not part of this conversation? And somebody's got to
stand up and insue that.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah, I actually agree. I've never found any issue simple
enough that there aren't different ways to address it, and
they don't actually fit neatly into individual political parties platforms.
There's a lot of solution, you know, finding solutions, problem
solving that goes into a legislative effort, and I do
think you can stay true to your core values and
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not betray them to find those solutions that may touch
on the priorities that lawmakers have from the constituents that
sent them, be it a Republican or Democrat. I know
that exists. I know it can happen. I don't see
it in Washington. And my big fear there is that
the polarization is what sells and is what's raising their
(38:11):
money for their campaigns, and that there is some definition
out there that if you were to come together, that
that you have somehow failed your constituencies or you wouldn't
be able to raise as much money as you are
if you're par polarized. So I agree with your your
premise on on how we don't want have a constitution
if we don't have compromise. That's that's what the b
Cameral legislative body looks like. So what's this How do
(38:33):
we get how do you suggest we get this conversation
going and maybe take not letting perfect be the enemy
of good further and and and really have a substance
of debate about it.
Speaker 10 (38:46):
Well, I'm not sure I have the magic bullet on this.
I was I was heartened by the vice presidential debate.
You know, everybody can spend it a different way, but
for me, It was really comforting to hear partisan politicians
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treat each other with some respect and to acknowledge, you know,
that the legitimacy of some of the points the other
side was making. And I was kind of taken aback
when at least some of the medium that I saw afterwards,
they were disappointed, you know, they wanted to fight. They
felt like, you know, that we haven't produced good material
(39:27):
for upping audience viewer rates and stuff like that. That
I felt that that set a good tone for what
I would like to see a lot more of our
political debate. Look like, you know, I don't know. That
doesn't really answer your question that I sound some hop
in there.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
No, I think Robert Griffith, he is with the YU
of course talking about oh I got you off, because
there's a reason for that. Now when we come back.
You have a few thoughts uncompromise, Yes, yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
I do to imagine that I shared a little bit
with our good professor.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
And now our audience, I know has some thoughts on compromise.
Is it a dirty word into late today's political environment?
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Eighty eight five seven zero eight zero one zero What
does the smartest listening audience and all the land say
about compromise or the versions of it that we are
seeing play out today. Is it all bad? Is it
some bad? What is it?
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Roder Greg here on Utah's Talk, Rady on want oh
five nine can or s all right? We want to
get to some calls uncompromised. We just spoke with Professor
Robert Griffith. He's at a BYU Universe. He wrote about
the fact that you know, delved into the issue of compromise.
Is compromise a dirty word in today's political discussion. We'll
(40:45):
share some thusts, but we've already got a caller joining
us tonight. Aaron is on I fifteen here on the
Rodd and Greg Show. Aaron, how are you? Thanks for
joining us tonight.
Speaker 11 (40:54):
I'm good, thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
What's say you, sir? About this compromise? So?
Speaker 11 (41:01):
I have this conversation often with people, friends and family,
and you know, I hear all the time, why can't
they just compromise meet in the middle. So I get
specific and when this comes up, so I pick an issue.
Let's say government spending. One side wants to spend less,
the other side wants to spend more. Where's the compromise?
(41:24):
How do you compromise there. There are a lot of
issues where I don't think you can compromise because one
side either gets what they want and the other one
does not, and so one side compromises and the other
one doesn't. So take that issue government spending. One side
wants less, the other side wants more. Where's the compromise?
Speaker 1 (41:48):
So you don't think there's common ground or a middle
ground that people could find an answer to Aaron doesn't exist?
Speaker 11 (41:55):
Well, I think do you have two choices there? Spending
will either be increased or it will be reduced. I
guess the fromise would be let's keep it that way, nobody.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
And Aaron, that's That's what I was going to say,
is that when we're trillions in debt, I think part
of that compromise is you have people in Congress that
don't really want to increase those budgets and deficit spend
to a higher level, and then you have some that
want to spend it to an enormous level. Probably the
compromise that you're describing would be going less in debt
doing seeing less deficit spending, uh than seeing more Uh?
(42:33):
I suppose, yeah, I mean that would that would be it?
I but and what's weird is that in our state legislature,
you you have to do that because you have to
have a budget and you have to be able to agree.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
So, you know, I didn't even think about the budget.
But Aaron Rai's a good point. There are some who
just want to spend, spend, spend. Others would say we
need to cut, cut, cut, you know, even if they
just increase a little bit, it's more spending.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
So an example, the example I'd give you is that
we have back in when Governor Huntsman was the governor,
we had a billion dollar surplus, which at that time
was it was a ten billion dollar budget, and it
was a billion dollar surplus. Ten percent more came in
that taxpayers paid than what we needed to write the budget.
I'm conservative, and our motion was to either return it
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in a one time rebate or a tax cut. Ongoing.
There were moderates in our Republican caucus that wanted to
spend every time of that surplus and saying that we
were behind on a lot of different spending, education, other things,
and spend it all. We ended up I think with
four hundred million in tax cuts. So that's where we
started with. We want to return it all. They started
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by spending it all, and we ended with four hundred
million in tax cuts that year. That would be an example.
That's an example of good or bad. That's what we did.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
I have always thought, and we need to break. But
I want to come back with some calls on this.
I have always thought that when it comes to compromise,
conservatives always come out on the losing end.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Well that's what you see. Yeah, I agree, that's my
take on Well, there is that I'm soured on the
word compromise when it comes to Washington, because all you're
talking about is variations of the leftist agendating their way.
That's it, yep. I mean that immigration bill that they
keep talking about. There was some kind of compromise that
was just memorializing illegal immigration and giving money to NGOs
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and not really supporting the border or protecting the border.
And so there were many reasons of the vote against
that bill, and it wasn't because you weren't willing to compromise.
That was just a bad bill.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Yeah, all right, your calls and cummings coming up right
here on the Rod and Greg Show in Utah's Talk
radio one oh five nine K and rs.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
You're on talk Radio one oh five nine kN RS
rolling right along, Citizen Greg Hughes.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
And I brought our kit live everywhere, by the way,
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So as soon as we're done, you can check out
any of the discussions or topics that we had today.
You're on the Rod and Greg Show.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
That's right, Yeah, yea, it's worthwhile. If you haven't heard
the whole show, you need to hear the whole show.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah, that's true. All right, we're talking about compromise. We
had an interview short time ago Robert Griffiths, he's a
professor of political science at BYU, wrote an article in
the d News talking about compromise and is compromise a
dirty word?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
That's right? So I think today it is. Yeah, And
there's a part of me that thinks it's essential in
the legislative branch on getting things done. It's a game
of math. In addition, and there's a part that you
see from Washington and that is not compromise at all.
But what say you, the listeners, Let's go to the phones.
Larry from Bountiful, Thank you for holding and welcome to
the Rodd and Greg Show. What's say you about this
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concept of compromise.
Speaker 12 (45:39):
Well, it's a mixed bag. Take for example, the environmental movement.
They start out with an outreach atrageously ridiculous position and
we compromise a little bit and then we inch our
way toward hell. Same problem when we have uniparty, when
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the when Republicans and Democrats, you have two parties, but
they both do the same thing and both have the
same mindset, so then there's no compromise. It's just mass
movement in the wrong direction. So compromise is important, but
there's some things we don't compromise, like some of the
constitutional processes and principles which have been compromised via the
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Supreme Court or whatever legislation the federal government wants to
tou to put forth, we cannot allow the federal government
to determine the extent of its own powers. That's a
dictatorship or you know, a communist government. So compromise has
its place, but being firm and committed also has its place.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yeah, and it really does have to be that that
that you know you're coming from different perspectives and you're
finding you're finding agreement, but you're you're comment of mass
movementment in the wrong direction, masquerading as compromises. The problem
I have, and I think you've nailed it, Larry. I
think it's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Well, I think what he you mentioned this earlier, Greg,
we have a uniparty in Washington. We don't have Democrats Republicans.
They're all of the same party. And that's where the
American people are saying, wait a minute, there's no such
thing as compromise here. You know, the Republicans go along
with everything the Democrats say. Now rarely do you hear
the Democrats go along with what the Republicans want. And
(47:27):
that's why I think this idea of compromise kind of
wrangles a lot of conservatives out there. They say, there
is no compromise. You do exactly what the Democrats tell
you to do. You brought up the frustration a lot
of people have with a Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson.
You know, we have a majority, a slim majority, in
the House, but the Republicans in the House are always
acting like the minority party.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah, they cannot look. Look, when you have the majority.
I would argue, having been a member of a state house,
that when you have the majority, you make you within
your your caucus. You decide you've got the majority votes,
you decide the agenda. You don't allow for the minority
party to be the votes that dictates what you are
going to pass. And that is what they let happen
time and time again. So to the budget hawks and
(48:12):
those that don't want to spend a red scent, you
may have to spend a little. Maybe they can get
that caucus to spend at a snails pace versus what
the Democrats want, but they should be able to keep
control within that caucus of a majority, or why have
the majority? And I constantly see these budgets, these continuing resolutions,
concurrent resolutions that kick the can down the road, and
(48:33):
they are far more they look way closer to what
the Democrats want than fiscal responsibility and deficit spending ending
or slowing down at least, it's always just more and more.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Well here's another example, look at what just happened with
a continuing resolution. Remember, for a while, people are going
to say, you know, for us to go along with that,
you have to put in a stipulation that people have
to be Americans, they have to be citizens to vote
in federal elections. Most Americans support that idea, But what
do the Republicans do in the House toss it out
so they can get a continuing resolution and they don't
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look like they're.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
The people shutting down government. Yeah, and it's so frustrating now,
and you could have put a bow on it putting
that requirement. I want it so badly for Schuster and
the Democrats and the Senate to say, we can't accept
this budget because we do not support only people that
are amar citizens voting in our elections. I wanted that
them to try and make that case to the American people,
But they never had the opportunity because the House couldn't
(49:29):
put a cave. They could not get an agreement to
get that to the Senate. And that's a missed opportunity.
And that's what I think frustrates a lot of conservatives.
Greg is, time and time again, we elect Republicans to
go back to Washington. We think they're conservative, and they
cave time and time again. That's where the word compromise
becomes a dirty ward. That's right, you dn't compromised you caved. Now,
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look this our constitution is a product of compromise. We
have a bi camera legislative body out of compromise. So
it is a it's part and parce with the legislative
branch to have you know, it's a game of math,
it's a game of addition. What we have today is
a uniparty firmly to the left, with record deficit spending
and no end insight. It's why we have inflation. It's
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it's impacting every single American and we don't have enough
voices in Congress to compromise and say enough of this,
we have to stop this. We're going to pass a
budget that looks just like last year. You survived on it.
Last year. I survive on the same paycheck you do too.
That would even that would they lose their minds. It's
just that lone concept of you're just going to spend
what you spent last year. They couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
They'll never get to it, never get to it. All right,
Hockey night in Utah. I love saying I love saying that.
You know I did. You probably didn't get this, but
I grew up close enough to the Canadian border that
they'd have Hockey Night in Canada every Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yeah, I didn't get that. Pittsburgh. Well, Canadians, man, we
don't really don't be bashing the Canadians, bash the Canadians.
I mean, have you seen those guys up there? Just
not there a little strange. Yeah, I'm not a big
especially the French Canadians. The Canadians, I think of a
(51:10):
much like the French. Yeah, just kind of. I don't know,
I'm French. I'm so French. It hurts that I'm so French. Well,
I hear that the French tanks they just have one
gear reverse, you know, I've heard that.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
All Right, we've got a storm coming in, Hurricane Milton,
huge hurricane.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Well, apparently Kamala Harris has decided to kind of create
her own political storm. Now, yesterday there were reports out
there that she had placed some calls to Ron Decanus
and he did not return the calls. Right, That was
the story. NBC ran with this story. They asked her
to come in and she said, well, he's been selfish
(51:52):
for focusing too much on Filoridians and not paying attention
to me and returning my phone calls.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
Right, And he was politicizing at all.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Yeah, he was politicizing. Well, this is Ron Dessenters' response
to that today.
Speaker 13 (52:04):
And so for Kamala Harris to try to say that
my sole focus on the people of Florida is somehow selfish,
is delusional. She has no role in this. In fact,
she's been Vice president for three and a half years.
I've dealt with a number of storms under this administration.
She has never contributed anything to any of these efforts.
(52:27):
And so what I think is selfish heard trying to
blunder into this. No, and here's she thinks she has
no role. No, she has no role in this process.
I'm in contact with the President of the United States,
I'm in contact with FEMA director. I'm obviously managing all
our state agencies. We're supporting all our local government. And
(52:47):
i will say this, I've had storms under both President
Trump and President Biden, and.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
I've worked well with both of them.
Speaker 13 (52:54):
She's the first one who's trying to politicize the storm.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Florida Congress or Florida governor run the sentence. You know
what's funny about this, Craig, is that you I'm wondering
if there's a little friction going on between Joe Biden
and Kamala Harris. You see what he did today, Well,
she was appearing on the view. He held a brief
(53:18):
meeting right and he was asked by reporters about the
comments that Kamala maid and phone calls, and Joe Biden says, Oh,
I'm having a great relationship with Governor DeSantis. We're on
the phone throughout the day to day. We're talking, We're
informing each other. I'm getting him all the help he needs.
And I just think there's a little friction between the
(53:39):
Bidens and the Harris's.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
Well, you could actually pass it off as hey, the
president's got a job to do. He's not running for elections,
so he's you know, he's just doing the job. But
where it does, where your observation has wait, is that
he doesn't need a job. He sits on a beach.
You know, he's nap time, it's it's time to go
to Delaware, it's time to be on you know, he's
never working, he's never having any kind of press commerces.
(54:02):
So for him to appear, yeah, you know, like he
is like he's like he's like punks. A tawny phil
On ground on face. He's his own shadow. And look,
it's once a year he pops his head up and
he sees something and we derive information from it. Kind
of throw the old Kamala under the bus.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
Today, Ron and I get along, really really.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
Turns around, says everything he's done, I've done with him.
We're arm in arm, all right.
Speaker 1 (54:24):
The Democrats have a new message out for what industry?
Speaker 2 (54:28):
I don't know, the porn industry. Oh yeah, you'll love
this one. It's coming up to stay with us.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Greg Show on Utah's talk radio want Oh five nine
can Or asked great to be with you on this
Tuesday hockey night in Utah.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
I love saying that something about that.
Speaker 1 (54:46):
You know, big crowd game gets underway, Punk drops at
about eight o'clock.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
Good for the Utah Hockey Club. Is it on TV?
Speaker 8 (54:53):
You know?
Speaker 2 (54:53):
I don't know. Okay, I don't know. Is it on TV?
Mark is giving us a thumbs up in there. It
is on? So so that'll be that. That'll be cool.
All right.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
I've got a story I want to share with you.
I was at my grandson's uh final little league football
game the other day. Right, We were with some friends
and a couple who I really admire. They're just great people. Said, Hey,
we're excited. We're going to the UFC fight tonight, big fight,
(55:24):
and they were excited to go to it. His wife said, yeah,
he's gonna owe me for going along with him on this,
but yeah, I'm gonna we're going.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
I don't know if it's a day I think it's
a guy's night out.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
It could be, but come to find out. And I heard.
I learned this just the other day when he went
to the UFC event. Right, And Dana White isn't he
the guy behind all of this? Spoke at the Republican
National Convention. As a matter of fact, Remember they went
to the Delta Center to this event. He was wearing
a Trump hat. They told him to take it off.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
You're kidding, Yeah, that is not a Dana White. That's
that's good.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
Rules got to be a Delta rule.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
Because Dana White Wood, I mean, Dana White loves Donald.
I think most of his fighters do. I mean most
of the fighters in the UFC are Trump supporters. Have
you seen have you seen when he attends the fights.
He'll go with goes with Tucker Carlson, he goes with
different people the place goes bonkers. So that is a
that in fact weird. That is I'm surprised by that because, uh,
(56:27):
that is one of the places where he would particularly appreciated. Yeah,
because there's men in the room.
Speaker 1 (56:33):
You could wear Trump paraphernalia from head to toe and
you'd be you'd get a big cheer at a UFC event.
But apparently he was told he couldn't wear his hat
and take it off.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
That's that's that's that is a Delta Center rule rule.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
That's kind of crazy. Now there's another story related to
sports here in Utah in high school, and I didn't
realize they had a rule like this.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
Well, this is a new rule and it's this what
is it the High School Athletic Association Activities Association. I've
had my tangle when I was a public servant, I had,
you know, my go arounds with this group making the
rules for interscholastic sports. They have created a new rule
that if you have a student who's here, an international
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student that here is here on an F one visa,
they are prohibited from playing interscholastic sports high school sports.
Why good question. Some think it's because they're really good
at something and they're being recruited or there's some you know,
unfair reasoning behind it. But here is the problem, and
there is a lawsuit. This is in Ksel this afternoon.
It came out Australian high school football player file suit
(57:41):
to play varsity says new says new Utah rules discriminates.
This is why it discriminates. If you are here illegally undocumented. Well,
you can play any sport you want. You can play
any sport. You can do it without interruption. If you
came into this country in a legal process, you are
prohibited from playing high school sports. Now, I am going
(58:02):
to tell you on the level of competition they they are.
They are so selective in how they they've done this
and this. They have a history of this. And by
the way, the way the High School Association gets away
with this is that they can outlast parents. You've got
parents that care for about two years about varsity sports
and then they move on. And so if they can
outlast year, they can just move on. They get a
(58:22):
new generation of parents, they don't have to worry and
they do. This is how they successfully continue to do
these things. But some of these rules that they come
up with are they just lack patent fairness. If you
want to say that people from other countries cannot play
sports in this in this state, especially if they're here legally,
I mean, have the rule if you want the rule.
But if you're saying that people that are undocumented can
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but those that came legally can't, you're in lalla land absolute.
That is absolutely crazy. And so I just think that
the student is has he graduated, is he's still in school,
he's a senior, he's at wan Diego Heights School, but
he's not he's forbidden from playing. And so there's there's
an attorney that's taken up this case not just for
(59:05):
this student, but for all students that are that are
here on a visa student visa that are here that
they think they ought to be able to play because
the state does allow people from other countries to play
sports in our state. Yeah, that's the Utah High School
Activities Association, and right, they will outlast the parents, they do,
and then they'll outlast this Australian young man. Can We'll
(59:28):
be through school in about two or three years, and
then the parents aren't about it because they've moved on themselves.
And so it's a.
Speaker 1 (59:35):
How on earth can they allow something? How on earth
You've got someone in this country legally went through all
the process, greg and he can't He or she is
a young man, right, yes, yeah, he can't play sports
at one diego. But if you had a kid who's
here going to school, came here illegally, he can play.
Speaker 2 (59:56):
So you know what the solution of that is that
young man goes back, crosses a order illegally, has no
documentation on how he got here. Play away, play away?
Come on, yeah, I mean that is just that's the lunacy.
And I'm telling you, I'm just glad somebody is adjudicating that.
I hope it comes to an equitable resolution, but just
it's got to be one or the other. You can't
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you can't say the illegal alien kids can play and
the and the legally or kids that are here legally
are prohibited from playing. You can't create penalties for following
the law, for heaven's sake, that's crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
All right, let's go the election a month away, going
to be very close, twenty eight days, twenty eight days,
thank you, you know, and both parties are pulling out
the stops trying to get as many votes as he
possibly can.
Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Right, yes, but this is a new low in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Apparently the Democrats are now trotting out porn stars really
to win voters in key battleground states. The story goes
the artist United for Change pass Okay, which raises money
through ActBlue, has launched a pro porn ad campaign throughout
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several battleground states in response to a conservative organization calling
for a total ban on pornography. The one hundred thousand
dollars Hands Off My Porn campaign is now airing in
crucial states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Nevada. Nearly twenty
states across the US, including Georgia and North Carolina, have
(01:01:29):
passed laws requiring air age verification to access online port
And we've done that here, right, we have an age verification,
which I think is a great idea. But apparently the
Democrats have gone to the porn industry and the adult
performers and asked them to send a message to the
American people. Here's a portion of what they're saying.
Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
Hi, I'm Holly Randall, and I've been working in the
adult industry for over twenty five years. I need to
address the threat of Project twenty twenty five hundred and
forty Trump appointees got together and wrote a roadmap for
his next term in office and decided that one of
their top priorities is to outlaw pornography. With all the
other economic issues we have in this country, this is
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their top priority. They have declared it a public health crisis.
Speaker 8 (01:02:17):
They try to.
Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Argue that it turns viewers transgender, and the age old
argument that it victimizes women.
Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
So now we have porn stars for Kamala. Yeah, I mean,
so this is where we our audience is going and
this is our close race. Yeah, I mean, we just
have the pornos stars are all all in with the
Kamala And I don't know, I just think there might
be some meritis some of these issues that she was
mocking just now. But porn stars for Kamala. Yeah, yeah,
(01:02:48):
to give me one of those tea shirts. Well we do.
I'll tell you what we have on the show that's
going to come up here, A really good interview. I'm
looking for this. Some young people have done a documentary
on this, right yeah, on selling selling sects and the
porn industry and the impact is having on young people
and These are young people doing the documentary, so we're
(01:03:08):
really talking about their actual peer group because they're looking
at the science. These aren't like church ladies from you know,
Startayy Live. These old people and with the bun hairs,
you know, and the gray hair, just you know, being
pure young people as you young people looking at it,
looking at the difference in culture and and all that.
Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Yeah, Claire Carson will join us coming up right here
on the Rodding Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one
O five nine k n RS. It is the Rotten
Greg Show here on Utah's Talk Radio Hockey Night in Utah.
You and I just noticed the crew from ESPN is
outside the Delta Center tonight, Mark Mancy, a p K,
Steve Levy, they're all out there doing the show tonight,
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Big Night Live from selling. Mark was just telling us,
you know, the F thirty five circling around the valley
waiting to get the cue so they can buzz the
Delta Center. Those things are loud. They are because I
live up north and they take off when they're doing
their night exercises. Usually in the summer. You can't go
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to sleep, really, I mean, those things you can hear
them all over the place. But as former Congressman Jim
Hansen used to say, the sound of freedom. Absolutely, that's
what he called it.
Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
What he called it, he sure did.
Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Yep, Land of the Free because of the break. Yeah, well,
they're called the porn generation.
Speaker 12 (01:04:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
What we're talking about is the Internet has been around
for three decades, meaning three generations have now grown up
greg with access to digital porn. And let me tell
you what is really having an impact on society.
Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Yes, yeah, and it's you know, the way that this
is happening, the way young people are exposed to it,
and it's just a how available it is is a change.
It's a change in culture. It's a change in people's
interpersonal relationships or what they experience and when they experience
it in life. We've talked on the show about even
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the curriculum or the books that are in children's schools,
so that desensitizes them at some degree. And then you
have this problem where through the Internet there's just too
much access. So states are trying to I know Utah
is trying to do something about this with age verification,
but the problem is tougher than just age verification. That's
not some silver bullet here and so joining us on
the program Claire Carson. She's a producer of this selling Sex.
(01:05:21):
It's a documentary, and she's joining us to talk about
what this documentary is really drilling down on.
Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Yeah, Claire, let me ask you a let's start off,
why did you want to explore this issue. What prompted
you to say, let's take a look at what is
going on in America, especially the young people when it
comes to pornography nowadays.
Speaker 10 (01:05:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (01:05:39):
So as for why my team and I wanted to
tackle it, now, we're pretty young as far as documentary
team goes on twenty two. The people I worked with
on this were twenty three, twenty five, and twenty six
respectively at the time of filming. And so we grew
up in school assemblies about this, you know, having friends
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tell us that they had problems with internet pornography. So
it's something that's been weighing on all of our hearts
for a long time. We brought it up to the
higher ups at the Caller and they thought that it
was a huge issue too, kind of a different lens
on it, just because they're older and they remember, you know,
looking up Cindy Crawford on their dial ups, and obviously
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our experience with it was a little different, but we
kind of just took it one building block at a time,
and all of our research and what we really decided
to dive into was based on those first couple of
interviews we did.
Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Claire, I really so, I have kids, and I'm telling
you you're hitting the generation that I am as a
parent with adult children. I worry about generation porn as
you described it, because of how accessible it is Digitally.
You're seeing stories that are hitting the headlines with this
p Diddy and his freak offs, and you're seeing stories
of r Kelly, and you're seeing things where people have
(01:06:57):
been behaving illegally, even with child trafficking and sex trafficking.
Do you is this society gets more secular? Do you
attribute the access to pornography? Does that contribute to what
we're seeing in terms of behavior with people towards other people?
Speaker 14 (01:07:16):
I would say absolutely it does. I think you know,
the advertising of her vase behavior and really aggressive and
violent behavior. Of course, children and young adults are going
to look at that and say, oh, well, it appears
as though this woman is happy that she's being hit,
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or that they're simulating rape and she's into it too.
I can execute that in my relationships with other women,
And so there's a huge rise in domestic violence that
can be, you know, really directly attributed to some of
the trends you're seeing in pornography.
Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
As you started putting this together and you know, developing
this this documentary, Claire, was there anything out there that
even caught you by surprise or shocked you a little bit?
Speaker 14 (01:08:07):
Absolutely? I mean, we talked with three current OnlyFans models
that were super great, really willing to talk to us.
We didn't think that we would find that in anyone.
But something that shocks me about their stories is we
include this in the dock. One of them has been
offered you know three what was it, thirty thousand dollars
(01:08:27):
for just one of our teeth, and other numbers that
were thrown out there were like ten grand for a
picture of someone's foot. And I knew that things were
bad and that these like fetishes and indulgences were really harmful,
but I didn't realize how much people were willing to
go for that. I had never spoken to someone about
(01:08:47):
anything like that. That was really eye opening.
Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
So how do we put the can you put the
genie back in the bottle? States have tried. There's been
some freedom of speech issues that have been brought up.
Do you see a path forward where we try to
pull back from how how much we've lost with the
exposure of pornography to so many young people and you know,
to everybody actually the general population. How do we how
do we reverse this?
Speaker 10 (01:09:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (01:09:12):
I would say. Over the course of this doc I
heard a lot of interesting thoughts on this, and the
one that resonated with me the most is advancing sex
education in schools to really include a hard and fast
curriculum about this. You know, we shouldn't. We're past the
point of just telling kids how to use contraception. We
are really at the point where we need to be
(01:09:34):
saying this is out there, you will see it, and
here's how it's going to.
Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Make you feel.
Speaker 14 (01:09:39):
Here's what's normal, here's what's not normal, Here's what's dangerous,
Here's what's going to hurt the people around you, And
especially warning young girls that know some of this is
not okay and if it does happen to you, that
shouldn't be a relationship that you're remain in.
Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Claire, is anybody doing that. Now, are you aware of
any group out there or any school out there that
is trying to address this issue? Know, beyond just the
basic sex education.
Speaker 14 (01:10:04):
There are some pieces of legislation that have been, you know,
proposed to increase sex education on this issue. Many of
them have been shot down for whatever reason.
Speaker 11 (01:10:15):
Uh.
Speaker 14 (01:10:15):
I know there's individual you know, nurses and sex therapists
that you can consult on this topic, but no large
scale I don't think it's something that people are paying
as much mind to as they are for age verification,
which is a solution and is one that I think
will help a lot, but that's that's got to come with,
you know, personal personal accountability for each and every one
(01:10:35):
of these kids.
Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
If people watch this, what do you hope they come
away with? Claire and I hope a lot of people
do watch it. It's a very important topic, difficult for
some people. I understand that uncomfortable for some people. But
what do you hope someone who sees your documentary, what
the what the message is and what do they walk
out seeing this?
Speaker 14 (01:10:57):
I hope people come away from this documentary thinking that
the years and years and years that they've seen TV
shows and movies have quick one off jokes about pornography,
that they realize that this is a real issue and
it's not something that's just like twenty second goof and
a TV show. It's not like it's something that Peter
(01:11:19):
Griffin will make a joke about on Family Guy. But
it's a serious issue and it's affecting millions and millions
of people. I hope that people realize that this is
something serious and something that we actually have to do
anything about.
Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Claire Carson.
Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Claire is a co producer of a brand new documentary
put together by The Daily Color called Selling Sex and
it's pretty amazing. A couple of notes, Greg Dina want
to pass along to you on this. What do you
think the average age of exposure to porn is nowadays?
Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
The age average experience too. I would hope it would
be in the fourteen fifteen year old age eight years old?
Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Yeah, they're now it's eighty years old. More and more
experiencing porn induced ed yep. And children are answering this question,
what would you like to be when you grow up?
The answer and only fans model Oh goodness, I mean,
can you believe that?
Speaker 7 (01:12:17):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
I just don't even know what's sad Is and I'm
glad that the I appreciate Claire coming on the program,
and I appreciate the demographic that they represent to younger people,
because you would immediately see kind of like that recording
you heard from the porn Star that's for Kamalin and
not at you know, at Trump, that that this is
all just old fogey paranoia going on. And if this
(01:12:40):
was older people that were putting this together, that's what
the pro porn people would say. But I think people
of that age are really drilling down on the facts
and seeing that it's having an effect on their relationships.
Sure is all right?
Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
More coming up on the Rod and Greg Show on
this Tuesday right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine K and our as Hockey Night in as
we like to say. Great to be with you as
you work your way home on this Tuesday evening. Already
we are officially twenty eight days from the election. Well
you're laughing, you know, give me the.
Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
No, I'm going to tell you timey few that's I'm
going to just really tell you, yeah, yeah, how far
away are we? We are twenty eight days, six hours,
nineteen minutes and twenty two seconds now, twenty seconds, thank you, yeah,
twenty eight days, six hours, nineteen minutes, and fifteen yes,
thank you. Right now, the polymarkets are fifty three percent
(01:13:38):
Trumpster and forty six percent Harris PA, which is where
I think it's all coming down. Fifty four percent are
voting or betting for Trump to win Pennsylvania, while forty
six percent of those wages are coming in for the
Democrat Kamala Harris. That that state, that's one of the largest. Well,
yesterday it was a ten point spread. It's a it's
(01:14:00):
an eight point spread now, but it's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
I want to wager you a little bit donut or
something I don't whatever you want, maybe one of those
things you get from from the afric.
Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Yeah, bundles a bundle. Yeah, that's another one that's an
unsold We're not paid to talk about bundles before the bundles.
Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Will there be a fight at the hockey game tonight
involving the Utah Hockey Club and the Chicago Boy?
Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Will there be a fight? Well, it won't be a
hockey game with that one. So what was the Gordy
House tat trick? It was something you had to have
a fight in there you had to have something something
in a fight. Really, yeah, Gordy, how GORDI howse hat
trick was? It was two different things, but you had
to have a fight in there as well.
Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
What was the old Henny Youngman line? Now Henny Youngman
comedian who you know, way before your time. But he
had a great light, a great line. He went to
a fight and a hockey game broke out.
Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Yeah, back in the eighties and stuff. When when Grey
had the he had he had the bodyguards. You know,
he had to hit and if you mess with you're
gonna get was one of them.
Speaker 10 (01:15:05):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
They calmed all that down to get it. You know,
family more family friendly, so you see it on TV more.
But I will tell you that there are still fights
as there should be. And when those gloves drop, they
can they can.
Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Yeah, but they've taken you know, you can't come off
the bench anymore. You don't get any more bench clearing brawls.
Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
And as soon as they pull you to the grounds,
soon as the guys go to the ground, the rest
of blow the whistle and separated. But come on, you
can't go to a hockey game without seeing a fight.
There better be. I mean, if you can't win the game,
win the fight, I said, but this is Utah, nice man.
These players are from Utah and a hockey game you
can and they better nice. You know what what they're
(01:15:43):
not from Utah. They don't know that yet, that's true.
You know what. They're gonna play hockey the way the
hockey's must be played.
Speaker 9 (01:15:48):
Young.
Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
The Black Hearts are in town tonight.
Speaker 10 (01:15:51):
That is it?
Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Badard, the young kid who was a first round pick
last year. Great player, injured part of the season, but
he'll be He'll be playing. See here's where my kids
mock me. If it isn't the Steelers, the Penguins, the Pirates.
I don't know who anyone is. I only care about
my own team.
Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
You're a sports fan. I am a I am a Pirates,
Penguins and Steelers fan, and a University of Pittsburgh FANYU
fan too. Yeah well, yeah, okay, but I don't follow
all the other teams. Yeah, I don't follow them. I
like my team. That's it. You don't pay any attention.
I'll get to know the shoota team. I don't know
of them now, but I'll get to know them, and
then once I know them, I'll at them and then
(01:16:28):
I'll watch them and I'll follow them. But if it's
the other team, only if they're playing them, do I
know them?
Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
A lot of concern being expressed about the elections, which
are now twenty eight days and six hours away, about
how voters in North Carolina, East Tennessee and now in
Florida are going to be able to vote people, you know,
just think about it. But apparently officials in North Carolina
are where the problem that is a key state it
is they have altered voter procedures in wake of the hurricane.
(01:16:56):
The State Board of Elections issued an emergency deck the
ration yesterday altering North Carolina's voter procedures in a response
to what has happened. Apparently the board the board has
emergency powers in light of a natural disaster. So apparently
among the measures they're changing or adding early voting sites
as well as the time said sites are available for voters,
(01:17:20):
and moving voter precinct space to be adjacent to another
well keeping the voting in tabulation materials secret. So they're
trying to adjust that. That arrogant comment that actual Rod
made the other day, you know, and where is it?
Ash Ashvielshfield, North Carolina Field North Carolin, Well, they're really
smart there and they're they're well educated, so they'll figure
(01:17:42):
out how to vote. But the dumb people there who
aren't educated, they won't be able to fire.
Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
And he actually split. He said, you know, the upwardly mobile,
the blue the Democrats, they're going to figure out how
to vote. If you're a Trump voter and you're you're
to figure it out, you're too stupid.
Speaker 9 (01:17:58):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
More coming up final a few minutes of the Rod
and Greg Show right here on Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine knrs. We've got Jesse Kelly coming your
way up the top of the hour.
Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Jesse.
Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
Anybody who is a Democrat or a progressive communist, according
to Jesse, is a comedy. Mean, he's a coming. I've
got some good news coming out of Colorado tonight.
Speaker 8 (01:18:19):
Greg.
Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
I love this. This poor man has been put through
the ringer time and time again and he doesn't give up.
I'm talking, of course, about the owner of the Masterpiece
cake shop, Jack Phillips. Right the Colorado Supreme Court today
Greg ruled dismissed the latest lawsuit against Jack and his
(01:18:40):
cake shop. He was accused in the most recent suit
of discriminating against a transgender attorney by refusing to bake
a gender transition cake. Now, remember he got in trouble
years ago when he refused to bake a cake for
a gay wedding, and he said based on his religious
belief he said he was not going to do it.
(01:19:02):
The case made it to the Supreme Court, but the
court didn't rule on that issue. They ruled that basically
the Colorado Civil Rights Commission was biased against Jack and
therefore their lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
They tossed that out. But here we go. Get this
poor guy Greg. Every time he turns around, he must
make a heck of a cake. Because I gotta tell
you this, if I needed someone to make me a
cake and they just didn't like what I wanted to
put on the cake, I'm afraid they'd spit in the
batter or something. I wouldn't even want a cake from
a place that does not want to make me a cake.
Why does everybody sue to have someone who doesn't want
(01:19:35):
to make them a cake make force them to make
them a cake.
Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
You know what I would do, I would make the cake.
It would be the ugliest, worst hasting cake. You e
These weird lawsuits.
Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
It's like, I just would never force a commercial establishment
to serve me if they just, at their heart of
hearts don't want to. In other words, if they just
want to, if they say, if you like Trump, don't
come in. I'm not going in there because they're gonna
spit in my food. I know what's going to happen next.
I don't even want to go to a place that
doesn't want me as a customer. Is it fair or no?
(01:20:07):
But how do they sue this guy? And they do
it because for other reasons it's not the cake. But
I just think it's a bizarre premise that I just
need to have my cake made by this individual.
Speaker 14 (01:20:17):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Yeah, well, and thank goodness got thrown out because it's
just it's absolute blast.
Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
And he keeps on hanging in there, and his customers
are keeping they're supporting him. I mean, he all bases
this on his religious beliefs, and he says, I'm opposed
to this based on my religious beliefs. Therefore, I'm not
going to use the art and the talent that I've
been given to make a cake for somebody.
Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
I've talked to plenty of people and they've said, look,
if I had to have a cake made, I would
not want that cake made from a place that doesn't
want to make the cake for me. And I'm telling
you people that you know, of all different persuasions have
said to me, just as normal human beings, I just
wouldn't want a cake from somewhere like that. Yeah, yeah,
Well for Jack.
Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Speaking of baking, there is a bakery in Ohio, greg
that has predicted every presidential election since nineteen eighty four correctly, Okay,
and you know how they do it Based on the
number of biscuits or donuts they sell something. But based
on that number, apparently they're cookies. Okay, all right, and
(01:21:24):
so far this year, right, you're ready for this, Trump
cookies eight hundred ninety seven have been sold, ok Gomale
Harris cookies three thousand, one hundred and thirty one. I
ever said that nineteen eighty four, based on the cookie sales,
they have correctly selected the winner of the presidential race.
Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
That's, sir, is too big to grig right there, nine
thousand to three thousand. Trump went you know, you know
they did that in Philadelphia, and they did this during
the because wasn't that No, they did this in Philadelphia.
They did in Philadelphia, and that is a as a
Democrat enclave, and they they based it on the sales
of the cookies or some some pastr or something and Trump,
(01:22:06):
actually the Trump, the Trump item was was more popular
even in Philadelphia twenty This is this year. This year, yeah,
this year, yeah yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
I love these nutty polls, but this one based on
the cookies they sold nine thousand, kamal thirteen hundred.
Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
We need too big to rig, boy, we need everybody
coming out. I I do, I really think that that
now that he's getting even close in Michigan and Wisconsin
and going to be fun, and Pennsylvania is on fire
right now for Trump. I've got family there that are
saying that they're just there's just an energy to it,
more so than sixteen or twenty. There feels like there's
a sincere momentum. I do think he has to win
(01:22:43):
by really really large margins.
Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
He knows, all right, that does it for us tonight,
You and I will be back tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
Right wingman went, yes, oh, I can't wait. The bumper
music alone will be back, pet up shoulders back.
Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
May God's less you and your family And that's great
country of ours, enjoy the evening
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