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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show on Utah's Talk
Radio one O five nine a n r.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
S shaping up to be a big, big week, folks.
We've got a lot, a lot of a lot of
talk show, you know, the Sunday shows, a lot of
a lot of oh yeah, a lot of things happening.
We grab some of the most relevant comments and quotes
for you to consider here on the show. And I'm
telling you that there's a there's a there's I think
there's a momentum. Rod, I'm telling you this week, I
think we're going to be talking all about the the
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bump that wasn't for Kamala Harris at that convention last week.
Nobody seems overly impressed. It's not just JFK RFK Junior
that has endorsed Trump. Now today, Tulsea Gabber has also
formally endorsed Donald Trump for president. And I just think
that you're going to see the mo. This is big
mo Monday. Okay, big momentum Monday. We're gonna see this
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momentum shifting away from Kamala Harris Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
We have got a lot to get to as we
do each end every day, as you work your way
home here with U Toa's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Canterrests.
In just a minute, Greg is going to read a
I think it was it a letter or of what
was it exactly? Greg?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It was a post, Bruce.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Was a post by Tammy Bruce ripping and I do
mean ripping into the Kennedy family for attacking RFK Junior
and his his h endorsement of Donald Trump. I mean,
she is laying it all out there, and somebody should
because the treatment of the Kennedys to Robert F. Kennedy
Junior is just atrocious.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It's awful, It's it's a little bit of a lengthy Yeah,
we'll read it if you want the whole thing, right,
I don't know what part you would omit if you
were the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Also coming up, we'll talk about the Kamala's bait and
switch progressiveness. Isn't it funny? How and we've had a
bite with is it Tom Cotton? I think talking about
the bait and switch that is taking place with Kamala Harris,
all of a sudden she's going to the middle, But
is she really We'll get into that as well. We'll
also talk about Donald Trump's race to lose. We'll get
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into how the Democrats are attracting voters to Kamala Harris.
And here in Utah, we'll talk about a possible ban
on cell phones in schools and we'll get your comments
on that and anything you'd like to talk about today
here on the Rodd and Greg Show in Utah's Talk
Radio one oh five nine K and are as a busy,
busy day coming up. Now, what about the attack on
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the Robert F. Kendi Jr.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
So I think Queen Bee Christa pointed this out to me,
and it is a powerful, powerful message and it really
was written soon after RFK Junior's sister put out a
formal proclamation or public statement condemning her brother. Yeah yeahs
going on and then attached this and had all a
lot of his siblings, not all of them, but a
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lot of his siblings attaching their names to it, condemning
their brother and saying it so he's a sad it's
a sad ending to a sad story, just really ripping
him and it's a sibling. This is what Tammy Bruce
had to say about this, and really her response again
was right almost emotionally in response to this. Right after
that that announcement came out last week, she says an
open letter to Carrie, who was the sister who put
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this out. Carrie Kennedy, you people are awful. Despite your
family's checkered past and horrible behavior of so many of
the men Americans, of so many of the men Americans
have stood with you out of loyalty, sentimentality, and too
often grief, despite the questionable establishment of your family's wealth,
the treatment of Marilyn Monroe, the General Womanizing, the abandonment
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of Mary Joe Kopecney to her death, allegations of rape.
One could go on and on, but the point is
your family has stayed loyal and protective of family members
who have done the most appalling of things. But the
moment one of your own acts on his conscience for
his country, you attempt to throw him to the wolves
and publicly condemn him. Never a word for the trail
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of abused or abandoned women left behind by a Kennedy,
but because of one of your men, because one of
your men supports Trump in an effort to make the
lives of Americans better, that alone is beyond the pale
in your ugly treatment of you, your brother. You reveal
the rot that has broken the hearts of many of
the American people so many times over the years. Beyond that,
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the economic destruction of the American families is something your
family would truly never understand. You're not touched by the
worry of about having enough gas to get the work,
or whether you can afford or whether or not you
can afford the eggs this week, if you'll be safe
walking in your own neighborhood, or if your child will
be safe in their urban public school, or even if
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they'll know how to read and write while collecting their diploma.
You keep doing civil rights work and public service virtue signaling,
but in the meantime, make a pledge to not keep
doing damage. As Americans are simply looking for a way
to reclaim their own futures and safety for their families,
and knowing that maybe, just maybe they can leave their
children with a little better off future, with the future
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that they can rely on. The condition of this country
should shock everyone, even if their name is Kennedy. We
know it at least shocks one of you like it
does the rest of us. And he has enough enough
fear of and hopelessness. What like like us has had
enough of the fear and hopelessness assigned to us for generations.
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Americans are happy to see Bobby on our side as
we refuse to comply and will not go gentle, will
not go gentle into the catastrophe to which we are
expected to succumb. Instead, with Trump and all who join us,
we will fight, fight, fight.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Well that is was that? That was Tammy Bruce?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Hemmy Bruce who wrote that she used to do a
radio talk show down in the Los Angeles area years ago,
But she's right. The medium and even his own family
spent the weekend trashing Robert F. Kendy Jr. For a
decision that he made. Said, I think this is a
better decision for the country. That's why I am going
to back Donald Trump. And I am sick and tired
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of the shenanigans taking place within the Democratic National Committee.
They You know, no one even voted for Kamala Harris,
yet she is now the nominee.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You know what, the media fails to ever report accurately
or they can't even have a discussion about this. You
see that that Adam Kissinger, whatever his name is, that
the clown that cries all the time, that's a Republican,
or even Liz Cheney, who they hate. The Democrats hate
the Cheney so much when they want to rip on
Trump their heroes, and they're not you know, they put
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party or the country in front of party or more
important than party. This guy, he was right, he said,
He said, Joe Biden is not able to continue. He
was correct. He had a right to run in that
primary and make the case that they ultimately knew was
the case, but just wanted to do by fiat. They
want to do it by by replacing him without a
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single vote. He and there was another Democrat that attempted
to run in a primary and they were completely shut
out of that process. But they were absolutely correct in
their assessment. And you know, this establishment that Kennedy has
just had a gut full of and the rest of
us have too, they knew it, and they just wouldn't
let a free, a fair process go on and by
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way a primary, so they just picked their winner.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And he said, enough is enough. I'm not I'm not
going along with this anymore. And my family can love
me or hate me, and it apparently is that they
hate him now. For doing just that. Now, on top
of that, a bit of an oddity today at the
Arlington National Cemetery in the nation's capital, as we marked
the what is it third year anniversary of America's withdrawal
from Afghanistan, But walking along the corridors at the Arlington
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National Cemetery is one Donald J. Trump, who went there
to honor the fallen and Spencer Cox, cover of Utah,
walking side by side and chatting.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah. So, you know, there's there's been talk about this
leading up to this in the in the political circles.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
You know, Governor Cox wrote a letter after the Estento assassination,
and I guess they had communicated. Now, the nexus to
this visit is Arlington National Cemetery where one of Utah's
one members of the military, was it Sergeant Hoover Hoover
who was killed in this They came back to President Trump,
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put reese at their graves and honored these thirteen members
service members who were killed at the Cabal Airport three
years ago. Well, because one of them is from Utah,
the governor of Utah was there and there's some pictures
of them together walking Arlington Cemetery and I think I
heard them say, please, please be nice to me. Please, Chris,
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President Trump. I'll be good from now on, I promise
I will. I'll be good. Just just please be nice.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I was wondering if you said something along my lines.
I really like you, I really really do like you.
There's been a change of heart. I know our listeners
have a jaundice to eye to this change of heart.
I'm so surprised. I don't know why. No, I know
what's going on.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
We all do, but I you know, we don't want
to take away from the somber moment of that of
Arlington Cemetery and why President Trump was there. And amazingly,
while there was a statement put out by Biden today
was acknowledging it. Where was You can't find him.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
He's on a beach in California. Where comel is? Nobody knows.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I checked the regime media, the Washington Post and the
New York Times. They don't have a word to say
about the three year anniversary of this debacle. Washington Post
mentions that Trump says it's all Biden's fault. It doesn't
even talk about it. It is objectively a failure and
hard to watch people falling off a plane as it's
taking off from the sky, leaving all that military equipment
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behind five billion dollars something like that. Just a crazy
that should not even be a campaign issue. That should
be a moment of mourning about how low we were
and how low we've come from what we used to
be in a moment like that and that withdrawal. But
now they can't meet They certainly can't do it in
a presidential campaign cycle.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Don't want to make the Democrats look bad at all.
All right, we've got a lot to get too. Great
to be with you on this Monday afternoon, Rod and
Greg right here on Utah's Talk Radio one on five
dne can arrest. When we come back, we'll talk about
Kamala's bait and switch progressiveness. Is this Donald Trump's race
to lose? We'll talk about that coming up at four
thirty five right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh
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five nine kN ars.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Now, before we go to our guest, we have a
I have a clip I want to play and what
this is on the Sunday shows of the news political shows,
you have a lot of different exchanges that take place.
Senator Tom Cotton is on ABC's This week, and he's
going through a litany of incredibly liberal to socialist positions
that Kamala Harris has has taken a position on, and
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in one of them, he mentions that she wants to
take away our private health insurance. So he gets called
out on it. We jump into this clip where he
is being questioned by the moderator about that position. Because
the moderator is defending Kamala Harris at this moment. Let's
have a quick listen to this.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
They're always, what do you mean taking away health insurance?
What are you talking about?
Speaker 7 (10:56):
She said when she ran for president that she wants
to eliminate private health insurance. It's on the job eventy
million Americans.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
John, Yeah, I mean I mean that that is not
her position.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Now she how do you know this? But do you
know that her position?
Speaker 6 (11:07):
I mean she she says, you know, she.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
She has not said that. Maybe anonymous aids on a
Friday night have said that. But but the last thing
that she said this was.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Not a radical uh convention.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
I mean she she she as you heard me go
through with Bernie Sanders, she is not taking the positions
of the far left of her party. She's clearly making
an effort to move to the medal.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
I did hear what you said to Sanater Sanders, and
I thought it was clear that he's very disappointed that
she's taking these efforts not to change her positions, but
to hide her positions. John, the American people are totally
justified to conclude.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
That, Well, he goes on, but to hide her positions
is the point there. Yeah, and I'm glad he and
I'm glad he didn't let the moderator go saying she's
never said that, she has never come out her lips
to our ears, We've never heard any of these so
called new positions of hers.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It's all coming through her camp pain, not from Kamala
Harris herself well joining us on our newsmaker line. Our
good friend Terry Jones, editor at Issues and Insight, been
writing about this. Terry, you talk about the bait and
switch progressivism for socialism that is taking place with a
Harris campaign. What do you make of it, Terry, Well.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
You know, it's a giant shell game really, and when
you think about it, it's going to be It would
be devastating to our economy because the things that have
been mentioned at least in the past by the Democrats
and by Kamala Harris and specific are so outrageously large
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in terms of the money spent that it's astounding. It's
just the handouts she has laid out with total one
point seven trillion dollars. The tax hikes, I mean, astounding,
astoundingly huge tax increases, you know, going from twenty one
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to twenty eight percent on corporate tax and quadrupling tax
on stock buybacks, you know, raising capital gains tax. You know,
just you can go down a long list of things
and these are are essentially a tax on industrial America.
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You think about also the plans they have in place
for doing things like uh, you know, increasing death taxes
on people, and you know, you can just go down
a long list of things and and they're just going
to be devastating to the economy. Meanwhile, on a on
a parallel track, they're moving they want to move things
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under the government's agents that never existed there before. You know,
this whole Green New Deal idea that's essentially, ah, you know,
a cart launch for government to put itself in control
of you know, the industrial sector of our economy. I mean,
that's there's no other way to put it. I mean
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we would in essence be socializing our industrial base, and
that's that would be devastating to us. I mean, we
would have a collapse that people would not even believe.
It would be on a depression era of scale.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I think so, Terry, this is I don't think people
are really taking inventory the way you have in this
bait and switch progressivism, which is really socialism. Is there
ever been an election where we have a candidate and
were this many days less than seventy days away from
an election where they never had a primary. Every candidate
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that's been a nominee to a major party I believe
went through a primary process of some sort where they
had to answer direct questions. There have been none. You
have her to the very very eleventh and a half
hour being able to never make it take a position.
She's been the nominee now for weeks, we still don't
have any specific As cenator Tom Cotton pointed out, you
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have rumored late night second. You know Sarah gets who
may say what her position is or is not, but
she herself has never had to take an affirmative stance
on anything. She's now trying to change the rules to
the debate, hoping that she can get to not have
to debate Trump. How in the world are we going
to pin her down on the scary agenda that you've
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laid out that is so much even worse than what
we've lived here with Biden.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Oh yeah, it's far worse. And because we have a
coowed media that is apparently in the bag for Kamala Harris,
they're not going to ask the tough questions or not
going to compel her to answer the tough questions that
they wanted to. If they wanted to, they could be
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very aggressive and they're questioning, but they're not, and they're
not complaining about it. And that's the problem. And that's
a huge problem because the American people have, at least
in the past, believed that the media would step in
and ask hard questions of everyone. And as the years
have gone by, and I spent nearly forty years in journalism,
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I watched the media get softer and softer on democrats
and leftists, and harder and harder on anyone who is
in the center or on the right, and so barring
any of that, and barring having a no holds barred
kind of debate or two or three, we are not
going to know. We're going to be given dribble by dribble,
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as you pointed out, little revelations from her camp, people
who are supposedly her advisors or who are stocking horses
for her, or who are you talking heads who you know,
pretend to know what's going on in the inside. But
they will just let things out in dribs and drabs
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and leave it up to us to paste it all together.
But they will never they will never say what the
actual agenda is, and that is to collect all of
these things together and basically put the uh US government
in charge of everything in the economy. And pretty soon,
you know, if if Kamala Harris is elected, the US
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will in essence become a socialist state because of the
pervasive controls over over everything, and it includes regulatory controls
over people's personal lives, what they can cook on, what
appliances they can use. I mean, there are all sorts
of things that are involved in this, and nobody is
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putting it all together and saying this is actually an
attempt to do a quiet subversion of the entire system
and replace it with something they're going to call progressive democracy,
but is actually going to be socialism.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Scary thought, Jerry, thanks for leaving on that high note. Y,
thank you to.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Believe everybody laughing.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
All right, Terry, thank you. Terry Jones, editor at Issues
and Insights, need straight. I mean, you know, Terry indicates
her her idea of governance is even scarier than that
of Joe Biden's. And that's right.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
And with the least amount of vetting ever for a
presidential candidate of a major party, because it's zero, there's
no votes cast, there's no there's no vetting that has
ever happened, and no one's looking to make it happen.
And that's that's that's new new on the landscape.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
All right, We've got a lot to get to on
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Speaker 2 (18:41):
Very good. You know, I don't know about you. I
haven't seen any big bump for Kamala since the convention. Now,
there was the story over the weekend and I just
saw the headline that she was up by seven points,
which I'm sorry I don't believe. But looking around the things,
I don't see a big bump for Kamala since the convention, do.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
You No, it's because it doesn't exist. I've looked everywhere
I've been watching this, it doesn't. And even whatever we're
seeing by way of polls and even the betting market,
betting markets might be reflecting the news of the last
late last week, which RFK Junior endorsing Trump, but betting
markets even Nate Silver saying, are your most dependable bell
weather right now, and there isn't a bump right now.
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Nationally they've got the better betters are fifty percent Trump,
forty nine percent Harris. And that's after the Democrat National Committee.
He's up in Georgia, he's up in Arizona, he's up
in Nevada, he's up in Pennsylvania, down in Wisconsin, down
in Michigan. On the betting lines, on the betting lines.
So that that doesn't that doesn't amount to the kind
of bump that a that a traditional candidate gets after
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their party's convention. And it certainly doesn't look anywhere close
to the bump she got when Biden dropped out which
was I would say more of a everyone's excited.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
He's out of here than it was excited about Harris
Well joining us on our newsmak a line to talk
more about this. Is this still Donald Trump's race to lose?
This is Eric Lendrum. He is an contributor at American
great Nance. Eric, how are you welcome to The Rodden
Gregg Show. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Eric, I'm doing great today. Thank you guys so much
for having me on.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I know, Eric, You've done a two part pte on
the piece on this taking a look at this race.
What is your assessment right now? Is this in fact
Donald Trump's race to lose? In your opinion?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Well, as you guys said earlier, any media hype we're
hearing around Kamala Harris is just that it's media hype.
You know, a few poles they come out here and
there with really bad sample sizes, or maybe a few
poles that were connected two or three weeks ago that
they suddenly decided to release today to say, oh, look,
she's still ahead. But at the end of all of
the media, that's all just the noise. As Steve Bannon
would say, the fundamentals in this race are still strongly
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in favor of President Trump. And first off, you just
look at the electoral map right now, right now, at
the minimum, Trump has two hundred and thirty five electoral
votes to Kamala's two twenty six. That's not factoring in
the sixth swing states ssconsin Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada.
I want to take this moment first off to say,
as I said my piece, we need to dispense this notion,
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dispel this fiction that Georgia is still a swing state.
Georgia is solidly in President Trump's column for a number
of reasons. I mean, number one, remember do you guys
remember that law, that election integrity law and Georgia that
was passed that the Democrats swore up and drowned. It's
jim quote two point zero. Yeah, I'll try to boyd
bought it. They sue to get it overturned, It was
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upheld in court, and then what happened. It was put
to the test in the twenty twenty two midterms, and yeah,
herschel Walker lost the Senate race, but that was the exception,
not the rule. All the other statewide candidates won by
bigger margins across the board, Governor and otherwise than they
did in twenty eighteen. The state is and especially her now,
of course, because people talk about all the feud between
President Trump and Governor Kemp, the two have made up.
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There was a story that Breitbart did a while ago
saying that Governor Kemp privately told Senator Lindsay Graham and
a few others that he plans to put his entire
political machine behind getting President Trump reelected. So between those
irrefutable numbers, we can put Georgia and President Trump's column
that puts them at a minimum of two hundred and
fifty one electoral votes. That's just nineteen away from the
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two seventy threshold right there. At that point, he only
needs to win just a couple of those other remaining
swing states, the biggest one, of course, being Pennsylvania. If
he flips Pennsylvania along with Georgia bought a bang bought
a bang Bata boom electoral votes right there, he doesn't
need anything else. So the fact of the matter is
that Kamala's pass to two seventy is much narrower than
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President Trump's.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
So one of the things that you point out, and
I think it's critical for our listeners to appreciate you
look at crosstabs, meaning they do in these polls show
who it is that they're asking these questions of who
they're going to vote. These are pulse. These cross tabs
show that they are representing of the pool of people
that they ask questions identify Democrats plus ten plus twelve
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and some of these polls and the assumption there is
that they think that Democrats are going to turn out
at ten twelve percent more than Republicans. And even then
after they do that, they can't get those numbers outside
of the margin of air. Is that right?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Exactly? This is something that they have been doing for
a while now. They did this in twenty sixteen, and
they did it in twenty twenty, and they're doing it
again now. The sample sizes are just completely wrong. So,
as you mentioned, yeah, those are pieces. Those are two
poles that I mentioned in my second piece. The first
is a national poll by the Economists and you gov,
which ultimately showed a Kamala with forty six percent, President
Trump at forty four percent, and RFK with three percent. Now,
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first off, that right, there is a Trump victory if
she's only leading him by about two points in the
popular vote nationally, that is still an electoral college victory.
You know, Trump lost the popular vote in twenty sixteen
by about two and a half again Tillary. Clinton still
won the electoral college. But the crosshabs of this poll
shows that the sample size was D plus ten. That
is obviously not at all accurate as to the political
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makeup the party registration of this country. So if you
correct it for what the national makeup is, which is
probably somewhere closer maybe D plus four p plus five nationally,
that's a clear President Trump victory in the popular vote.
Another example is a statewide pole of Texas by the
left wing activist group Active Vote, which showed Trump with
a six point ly over Kamala in Texas fifty three
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to forty seven. Now, of course they may think, oh,
it's only a single digital lead in Texas. This is acep.
The sample size was D plus twelve and which is
obviously not accurate if you correct it for what Texas
actually is and consider that if it's D plus twelve
and he's beating her still by six points, then a
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correct sample size would have him taking the state by
double digits. By the same margins by which Greg Abbott
won reelection. So when you factor in these incorrect sample sizes,
it's clear they are just juicing up the polls in
any way they can to try to make it look
like it's a close race.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Eric, Have you delved into voter turnout, because there's no
doubt that with this being a close election, which I
think a lot of people believe it will be, the
get out the vote effort is going to be extremely important.
What are you hearing about that? Not so much from
the Democratic side, but is there a renewed effort now
on the Republican side to finally get out the vote.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
That is absolutely something that is being done, and it
is so important that this is done because, of course,
in twenty twenty, they weaponized the COVID era voter fraud practices,
they did ballot harvesting, they use ballot drop boxes, third
party ballot harvesting.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
What have you.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
And Republicans just didn't do that in twenty twenty. The
talking point always was, you know, just come out and
vote on election day, vote at the police station, vote
on a paper ballot, and the election day, you know,
votes will override all that early voting that obviously did
not happen. Now this time around, we are seeing efforts
towards that by mostly outside groups, and a big champion
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of this is Charlie Kirk, you know Turning Point USA,
Turning Point Action, their five point one C four branch.
They have been working over time to register more voters
that they then hope to turn out to vote in November.
One big one is Arizona, where Attorney Point is headquarters.
They now have Republicans now register over two hundred and
forty two thousand more voters than registered Democrats in the
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state of Arizona, and they flipped Yuma County from plurality
Democrats a plurality Republican. So if you turn out even
just half of that margin, you know, half of that
two hundred and two bout the margin, that's an easy
victory in Arizona.
Speaker 9 (26:25):
Right there.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
You have others like Scott Prestler, who's doing great work
in Pennsylvania especially, but other swing states trying to register
people to then get them to turn out to vote
if we because this is one point I always bring
up with twenty twenty, President Trump was completely outmatched. The
Republicans were outmatched by the voter fraud machine. You had
Zuckerberg spending three hundred million dollars, You had Soro spending
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all of his money the ballot harvesting that everything. Republicans
had none of that going for them. They were outspent
by conventional campaign means, and yet at the end of
it all, guys, they still only barely stole it. Trump's
will only barely quote to vote lawns by ten thousand
votes in Wisconsin, eleven in Arizona, eleven thousand in Georgia.
(27:08):
And that was just that just shows how powerful the natural,
organic grassroots space was for President Trump in twenty twenty
when people weren't necessarily happy with, you know, his handling
the race riots or the COVID lockdowns will have you.
So this time around, with all those efforts by outside groups,
if we even do just maybe five percent of their
one hundred percent your voter turnout machine, we should easily
(27:29):
beat them this time.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
All right, Eric is always great chatting with your great
work on this man. Appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Thank you so much, Eric, thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
All right. That's Eric Lyntram. He is with American Great
Nows saying this is still Donald Trump's race to lose,
and you look at the electoral map. I mean, he's there.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I'm going to talk about this. Whould come back. I'm
not finished. I know we had to finish the interview.
We got to got a break, but I got things.
There's points to be made about this. Eric's Eric. I'm
picking up with Eric's putting down, and there's some important
points to share with listeners about this.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I swear, boy, the forecast week looks fantastic. I know
what are we doing here? We should be calling you.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
See what I'm wearing. It was fifty It was like
in the fifties. This morning it was it was chili.
It was he's got a little sweater a chili. I
wouldn't played pickle bawl with it in a short sleeved
shirt for crimeo in doors shirt indoors.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
No, it was outdoors. When it was a little sweater,
you look so sweater.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
It's a hoodie.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
You look so cute. All right, you have apparently had
a revelation. I get these you want to share with us.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
They came in real time. I get the ladies, gentlemen,
I get these epiphanies, and they just hit me. And
while We were speaking with Eric Lendram about this very
issue about her pivoting and trying to be something she's not.
It all clicks.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I didn't see a light come into the room, but
apparently one did.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
It hit my head, and I am telling you I
see it. This might not surprise you, because you are
the smartest listening audience and all the land. But I
get it now. This is the This is the issue.
It's not a strategy of convenience that she doesn't have
to ever really express a policy position to win this race,
being inserted at the last minute, never having this state
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of position in a primary or anywhere else. The reality
is they're losing in any stated position, especially if she
were to say in Pennsylvania, I'm now for fracking, which
she wants to win Pennsylvania, and conventional wisdom says, change
your position from being anti fracking to being for fracking.
(29:30):
It's gonna help you win Pennsylvania, but it'll offend that base. Okay,
she has no wiggle room. How do I know this? Well,
two of the smartest guys who see polls that we've
never seen. The public will never be privy to that.
At least Eric is pointing to the ones that they
do show us have a little bit of a thumb
on the scale. The polls that David Axelrodters has seen
(29:53):
and the polls that James Carvel have seen are leaving
them both independent of each other. On national news to
say to Democrats, stop thinking this race is won. Stop
believing that we're ahead by some large margin. Trump under
poles and if these numbers hold, he will he will win.
They're saying that because they're seeing polls that show he's
going to win. He had seven the highest voter account
(30:15):
ever for a presidential candidate, with sixty million. Until twenty twenty,
President Trump got seventy four million votes when, as pointed out,
they were outspent out, hustled out every out, strategized everything.
Seventy four million came out for Trump. She is not
making Kamala Harris is not going to make a single
policy statement for fear that anyone she offends deepens that
(30:37):
hole she's in. She is not winning this race, and
if she comes out with a strong position, she will
alienate somebody, and she doesn't have a single vote to lose.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
You know, this reminds me, you know the modern you know,
modern cars nowadays, if you drift out of a lane,
some cards will buzz, your steering wheel will shake, there'll
be a light or something goes on. She's in one
of those cars. Now she drifts out of that progressive
of lane that her base wants her to follow, they're gonna,
they're gonna whack her. They're gonna uhuh, don't you go there.
(31:06):
That's why she comes now. She in fact, and this
was pointed out by who was it? Tom Cotton pointed
out that she has never denied that she supports defunding
the police or fracking. She lets her campaign do it.
So they come out and say, well she really you know,
and they people, and they do it, select people, and
they do it usually late on a Friday night.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Positions are almost whispers. Okay, and then and then what
they end up becoming his third party say well, that's
not her, just like the interviewer, Well, that's not her
position anymore, says who. She doesn't have She has no
wiggle room. She cannot take a position on anything because
she cannot afford to lose one single vote.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
No, she can't. All right, when we come back hour
number two of Rod and Greg with you on Utah's
Talk Radio one oh five nine kN R S. We
are going to share with you how Democrats are attracting
voters to Kamala. The game is underway. Any votes, stay
with us, get me done. It's great to be with
(32:09):
you on this Monday afternoon. I hope everybody had just
a marvelous, marvelous weekend. Did I hear you say earlier?
I hadn't even looked at the numbers today. Are we
under seventy days to go before the election? Yep, I
follow the exact number. But it's understand we're under seventy
now and I think in forty seven days less than that, Greg,
(32:31):
they'll start early voting in some of these states.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yeah, so that's you know, that's when it ends. That's
not even when you know the voting begins earlier than that.
And I'll tell you what, it's game time. But I
am just absolutely convinced at this point that they are
running as scared as you can get.
Speaker 9 (32:47):
I do.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
I don't think they have. They cannot state a policy
position or they're going to This is a game of addition. Yeah,
there is no addition for the Harris Walls team right now.
They cannot state a position or they're going to lose
support either from their progressive socialist base or from the
independence that are looking for some common sense out here.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Well, six months ago, there was a lot of talk
in Washington and really around the country that maybe as
Joe Biden prepared to run for reelection, he should dump
Kamala Harris. But now all of a sudden she is
their shining star. Joining us on our newsbacker line to
talk about that. It's Scott Pinsker. He is a public
relations and crisis communication expert, joining us on the Rod
(33:27):
and Greg Show. All right, Scott, how did they do it?
How did they remake Kamala Harris from being inn also
ran to now the party's nominee. How'd they do it?
Speaker 9 (33:36):
Scott, Rod and Greg Pleasure to be with you. Yeah,
Kamala Harris, you're looking at one heck of a reclamation project.
You're completely right. She was dead and buried, nobody wanted her,
abysmal rating, worst VP ever. You named the negative pr
around her, and she had it. And then suddenly Joe
(33:57):
Biden had a bad debate and now Kamala Harris is
Barack Obama, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington all rolled and won
the hell of the transformation.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
So you know, I think, what I think, what you've
what you're on too. And what's happening here is we
are seeing the personification of the generic Democrat candidate on
the ballot, the generic where you say, do you want
the Republican Donald Trump or do you want the generic
and you don't name who they are. She I've just
said in this last segment, I don't think she can
afford to have a policy position anywhere because I think
(34:27):
her her numbers are so tentative. And do you agree?
I mean, is this why we have this new found
reclamation project where she says nothing means nothing, but just
wants a lot of joy and walls, wants to go
to the hardware store and eat macaroni and cheese. Is
that what we've Is that what we're we resorted to.
Speaker 9 (34:46):
I'd even go further than that. I think if anything
you understated what happened would get in the way taking
a firm position on Israel, where Hamas would divide the
Demo Rocratic base, and Kamala Harris does not want that
to happen. She wants to be the alternative to Trump.
She doesn't want to be her own entity that would
(35:08):
lose her votes. So what she's doing from a tactical
point of view is mirroring the elector the electorate. They're
a vast group of people. You've got, you know, men, women, liberal, conservative, YadA, YadA.
And what Kamala Harris wants her end goal is for
when you look at her, you see yourself, no matter
where you are on the ideological rainbow, no matter what
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you might believe, no matter what core beliefs you might have,
the advantage of not having a core belief is that
you can kind of modify who you are and morph
into the dream candidate that other people are looking for.
And right now, if you look at the DMC and
the verbiage that they used, they went out of their
way to try to solidify this connection to the American
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people based not on what you believe they are or
what you think they're going to do, but who they
are in the the Kamala Harris, she she's one of
us guys. She is the average girl down the three.
She works hard, She played by the rules, have nothing
to do with Willie Brown or any kind of inappropriate
relationship thoughse just by her merit. She worked hard, and
(36:14):
by golly, we're lucky to have her.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Scott Greg and I had a real debate on this
on Friday Show because we were talking about feelings versus facts,
and my argument is that the feelings could in fact
carry Kamala Harris to the White House. Greg disagreed and said, no,
it's got to be about the facts. Could feelings carry
her to the White House? People see her smiling, there's joy,
They're all happy about what's going on. Could feelings carry
(36:40):
her to the White House?
Speaker 9 (36:42):
Well, I have a conservative colleague by the name of
Ben Shapiro. Yeah, facts don't care about your feelings. However,
from a PR point of view, he is exactly wrong.
Feelings don't care about your facts. The heart wants what
the heart wants. And I'm not on Ben. I know
he was talking about an objective reality, and your interpretation
(37:04):
of reality should not supplant the actual truth. But from
a PR point of view, we make emotional decisions. We're
not rational actors. We never have been, and it's not
coincidental that every great marketing campaign of the past fifty
years have all been predicated on an emotional connection. We're
not trying to bombard you with facts to get you
to buy that Forward or Chevy. They're hitting you with
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how good you feel, how wonderful would be behind the wheel,
how everyone would envy you. It's an emotional connection, and
that's what the Democrats have been historically much better than
Republicans and cultivating.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Okay, Scott, so I want to test that. I just
want to test it because I agree right, You're right,
I agree with you. But in nineteen ninety two, James
Carvill the Rage and Cajun I think he went for
emotion by saying it's the economy. Stupid to Herbert walker Bush.
He was taking an economic issue, a kitchen table issue,
(37:57):
and emotionally turning it on then income and President Herbert
Walker Bush by saying it's the economy and he doesn't
understand that, he doesn't get it. Is there an emotional
appeal to the kitchen table issues that Americans are confronting
right now?
Speaker 9 (38:11):
There's a potential emotional appeal to everything. The question is
how do you develop it? And can you make a
logical connection from where you are and where the audience
is and kind of hold it by the hand and
take them where you want to be. Potentially you name
the issue. It could be completely dry, to be boring.
There are a lot of boring products out there too,
(38:31):
But with a clever marketing campaign, you can definitely forage
an emotional connection. And that's really the ultimate test of
a good politician. Can you make people care about things
that they wouldn't ordinarily care about.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
It seems like they're a competition. Isn't hard because the
other side's just saying joy. It's a three letter word, joy.
That's it. That's all you have to fight is joy.
Joy is all they say. It has to be low
hanging fruit to say it's the economy.
Speaker 9 (38:57):
I don't know about you, but I don't want to
be antique joy. That's not the vision to hold. If
you look how the Democrats fed it up. They began
by calling the other people weird. Right, Donald Trump was weird.
Jd Vance what a weirdo.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (39:13):
They're trying to create a contrast between them and their
opposition in the in the mind of the American people.
Not unlike the Apple campaign on PC I'm a back.
Do you remember that campaign where they ran commercially about
twenty years ago? But it worked really well.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (39:30):
They had a a kind of dumpy looking guy in
an uncomfortable business suit, uh, being the being the PC,
and they had the cool hit guy that you want
to be probably got all the women being the Apple
being the MAC. And when you give people a binary option,
you don't have to be great. You don't have to
be the best. You don't have to have every policy
position nailed down. You only have to be better than
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the alternative.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Final question for you, Scott, how long is it going
to be before Toto gets loose from Dorothy and runs
behind the curtain and pulls the curtain back on the
man behind the curtain? I mean, how long can she
hold on to that?
Speaker 9 (40:06):
Unfortunately, it might be after November for the curtain to
be pulled. We have abbreviated playing field right now, with
the weirdness of Joe Biden dropping out when he did
and Kamala Harris not having to go through a primary
to answering questions and debating other people, it's very possible,
depending on what Trump does or does not do, where
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Harris can continue this kind of this booky theater all
the way through November and by the time the American
people figure out that maybe there's more going on than
happy happy, Joy, Joy, It'll be too late.
Speaker 10 (40:43):
Oh God, that might not be feedback for you.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
If the joy just contradicts your actual circumstances. I just
would hope that someone could take, you know, some inventory
of that.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
I hear you, though, Scott, I hear you.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
It makes sense, all right, Scott, please, yeah, right, thanks
for your time, Scott. I appreciate you being on the
show today.
Speaker 9 (41:09):
My pleasure.
Speaker 8 (41:10):
All right.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
That's Scott Pinsker. He is a public relations and crisis
communications expert. My gut is telling me, and I know
you totally disagree with me, but I think feelings may
carry her to the White House.
Speaker 11 (41:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Yeah, And I think I run into people out there
who fear the same thing that I fear.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Well, I'm going to tell you this, if it's a
game of addition and she can't make she can't state
a policy position for fear that she'd lose a single vote.
Right now, you have Tulsey Gabbert, who just endorsed President Trump.
These are Democrats that ran in twenty twenty These are
people that are TULSI did RFK when he started the
year of twenty twenty four. The last thing on his
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mind was he would ever be on a stage with
Donald Trump. So I think you're seeing some coalitions come
together that are afraid of this leftist driving us off
a cliff, are just genuinely concerned about this country. I
think that sentiment can carry the day.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
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Speaker 3 (42:25):
You will. Now, look, we've been talking in our interview
with Scott Prince grew As we've been discussing, you know,
this whole idea that they can literally just say joy
and they can tell you no matter how you're feeling,
no matter what your finances look like, no matter how
you are today versus when Donald Trump was president, there's
nothing but joy going on out here and at that
(42:47):
if presented with enough political pageantry, that that can actually
carry the day. Now, look, maybe that's true, but I
think there's a lot of emotion attached to these issues
that people are feeling every day. And what I love
Rod are the rare moments, and they are rare when
someone that is a lefty and has been you know,
I've always considered him like a Bill Maher. He doesn't
(43:10):
get the Democrat you know, authoritarianism talking points.
Speaker 11 (43:14):
He doesn't.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
In fact, it bothers him and he finds himself speaking
four and on behalf of Conservatis, who really doesn't like.
But he's like, my goodness, are you kidding me? This
is actually insulting, how bad this is getting? So in
that vein, there's a clip where he actually does Caitlyn
Jennings from CNN. He calls her out on his show
this last Friday. Yeah you want to play it, Let's
(43:37):
have a listen.
Speaker 12 (43:38):
Talking about the people on CNN and what I know
what the conservative side of America thinks, and I don't
blame them. I watched Carmalis Beach last night. It ended
at eight o nine, I guess eleven or nine in
the East. It wasn't until eleven twenty three till the Conserva.
The one conservative guy, what's his name, Scot En This
(44:00):
lonely Scott. I call him David there too wait a second,
Wait a second. I watched it from eight o nine
to twenty three. They were just gushing about how great
a speech it was, and I think she did fine.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
I think it was as good as they were making.
Speaker 12 (44:13):
It out to be. But if I'm a conservative in
America and I'm watching CNN just for the straight middle
of the road, that's what I hear for fifteen minutes
is it's great and then lonely Scott, it does look
I mean, and when you see the pathet, it does
look like token ism. It's kind of like the same
as the view. It's like it's almost better to have
(44:33):
nobody there like MSNBC.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Then what I tell you why he is spot on.
You know Scott Jennings, who I think does a really
good job on c Yes, he's provided some great, great
information during the Democratic National Convention. But he's a token conservative.
That's what he is on CNN. And you could probably
(44:57):
argue that Fox News has its token Democrats as.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Well, even if they do what he's trying. A couple
of things that he said, Bill Maher, I love that
he's calling her out, and her answer is doesn't get
any better. She just says no, no, no, we're fair, We're
all fair, and she just doesn't even want to consider
the premise. But even his audience, okay, which is not
going to be a conservative audio No, definitely applauds and
laughs at what he's at, the observations he's being because
(45:20):
he's right. But I don't think that it's even conservatives
that are watching CNN, if they ever did, and thinking,
you got to be kidding me. It's common people with
common sense and the idea that that CNN is supposed
to be middle of the road where MSNBC doesn't even try.
I there's not a whole lot of daylight in my
mind between CNN and MSNBC.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Well where was it? Just a couple of weeks ago,
and maybe it was Caitlin Harris, I'm not sure who
was on with Stephen Colbert. Remember remember he said on
his show, Yeah, it's CNN unbiased, they're very factual and
they're reporting. The audience laughed at that, and she said,
is that a punchline? Yes, I mean the public knows.
You've got two very liberal role cable news channels in
(46:02):
this country, MSNBC and CNN, and then you've got the
legacy media with ABC CBS and NBC, right, and then
you've got the Washington Post, New York Times. If they
honestly believe that Americans don't believe they're pious, boy, I
want to know what they're smoking, because I'd like to have.
Speaker 11 (46:19):
Some of them.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Yeah, and they do. They try with a straight pace
to argue that they are just calling yes, but it
is a joke. I mean, you can even go back.
We started the show with this, but this three year
anniversary is not a small one.
Speaker 5 (46:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
You see those pictures of the helicopter leaving in Vietnam,
you know, with sigone or whatever. It was like a
symbol of our failure in Vietnam and America's might that
wasn't back during that time. This Afghanistan withdrawal was such
an immense failure, and it was right at the beginning
of Biden's administration, which never got better. And uh, and
(46:54):
it is it is a time that we should be
looking back at three years from now this anniversary and
feel nothing minimally embarrassment, but it should be somber. You
don't have a single member of the media, You don't
have any of these regime media covering it in the
tone and the seriousness that it is. You you don't
have any mention, or if you do, you have Trump's
trying to use this to attack Kamala Harris as if
(47:17):
it's a it's a ploy, nothing more than a ploy.
No people died. I mean you have Biden who said
not a single soldier, a service member ever died on
his watch. I mean, that's how little he remembers or
cares about that incident. It's now three years old, but
that is that's That's the same thing that Kennedy I
think brought up when he said in his big announcement
(47:37):
that it's like the Putin state media here. That's what
you guys say.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Yeah, Well, and we're gonna we're gonna hear from Robert F.
Kennedy Jr. Had some very interesting things to say on
the Sunday talk shows. Tomorrow Plus is interesting tonight. Here
we have Kamala saying, you know those debate rules I
agreed to a few months ago, the ones that you
set up with Joe Biden, I kind of like them
changed now. Of course you wants she is running. They
are running out the clock. Greg. They are going as
(48:03):
fast as they can to protect her, and they don't
have to talk about policy because there may not be
enough time left. And they're perfectly happy with that.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
That's what they're hoping.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
That's what they're hoping. All Right, More of the Rodden
Greg Show coming up right here on Utah's Talk Radio
one O five to nine KNRS The.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Rod and Greg Show with your hosts Citizen Hughes.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
And Rod Urquette here on Utah's Talk Radio one O
five nine, Kay and our ass of course, one of
the developing stories today, Greg. We mentioned this before the break,
is Kamala all of a sudden wants to change the
rules on the upcoming debate with former President Trump.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
It's ABC. It was all you know, granted he negotiate
this when Biden was the one that he was going
to debate. But you can't look at ABC and look
at the rules. And he's been on CNN. Now he's
going to go on ABC. She refuses to go on
Fox News channel for any kind of debate. They have
already put their thumbs squarely on this scale. Yeah, and
now she has more issues. Now she has more problems
(48:59):
with the rules, wanting to put even more of the
weight and the favoritism on her side. And it does
get a bit much. If I'm Trump, I'm going you
know what, it's already far needed. Yeah, I mean I
want we all want him to debate because it is
her glaring, uh you know, fault that she doesn't have
a thought that she can actually articulate without fear of losing.
(49:22):
But how much of this do they want to how much?
How much of this can be gamed up? I mean,
there has to be a limit she will.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Do as much as they're trying to run out the
clock here. They don't want the American people to know
who the real Kamala Harris is. So a couple of
weeks ago, you know, he wanted to change a few
things in the debate rules, or he wanted to add
more and she said, well, we've got a debate that
no need to change anything. Two weeks later, she's now
saying I want to change something. It just it shows
how far they are going greg in my opinion, to
(49:51):
protect Kamala Harris. They will do anything.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
And what they can say is if if Trump says
enough is enough, and they'll say he's afraid to debate,
I'd love for him to say, well, okay, whatever these
rules are mirror them and then agreed to a second
debate on Fox News. And when she says no to that,
which she would she does not want two debates, then
the onus is back on her that she doesn't want
a debate. So I but I'll tell you what, take
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all this frustration that you're feeling, and take absolute strength
in the fact that Robert F. Kennedy Junior, with whatever
percentage he has of support in the country and even
in the in these swing states, and he has put
it's like a team of rivals. He's put his concern
about the safety of our children, our our health, our food,
(50:36):
this country. How they have stifled the Democrats have stifled
him just as bad, worse than debates. He couldn't even
run against the guy he knew couldn't do the job
and hasn't been able to do the job and got removed.
He is now with fun, He's now on the same
stage with Trump, and he had so much to say
this Sunday with Shannon Briem on Fox News Sunday. It
was it was it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
All right now before we get to that, I do
want to play with it. The Trump campaign, right, the
Trump campaign has put out A new ad is showing
Kamala Harris debate. Is Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
This might be the only debate we ever heard.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
This might be the id, but here it is new
Trump ads showing Kamala debating Kamala.
Speaker 13 (51:16):
Everyday prices are too high, food, rent, gas, back to
school clothes. That is calmed Bidenomics. A low bread cost
fifty percent more today, round beef is up almost fifty percent.
There's not much left at the end of the month.
By nomics is working. The price of housing has gone up.
(51:37):
It feels so hard to just be able to get ahead,
and we are very proud about it. Everyday prices are
too high.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
I just love that. That is Kamala debating Kamala over Bidenomics. Yeh,
because remember she's on the clock. She's been on the
clock this whole time. Oh, she didn't have anything to
do with this.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
Can't come If she's going to complain about grocery prices
and rent or more gage or the cost of gas
filling up your tank, it's Bidenomics, and it's and she
has heralded and supported and promoted biden nomics. Yeah she is.
She is debating herself on both sides of this issue.
Speaker 11 (52:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
Well, earlier in the show today, Greg read this post
by was it who am I thinking of? Tammy Bruce?
Is that corrector? Miranda Devine on Bruce Tammy Bruce about
Robert F. Kennedy how his family has just torn into
him now, treated him like, well, you know what because
(52:35):
of his endorsement of Donald Trump. Well, Robert F. Kennedy
Junior was on the talk shows this weekend, Greg, and
he talks a lot of some things that are very
important to him, and he hopes the president, former President Trump,
if he becomes president again, will address these issues.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
And before I play it, let me just preface it
with this. We know that that we want every I
think every common sense voter is going to hear the
things that Robert F. Kennedy is about to say, and
they're going to say, yeah, that makes a lot a sense,
you know. But I think these suburban moms, Okay, this
is an area where I think he can reach some
of the demographics that people think independent suburban moms who
(53:10):
might not like Trump. Man. When you're talking about our
kids and their health, you're talking about something pretty serious.
And I think that Robert F. Kenny Junior's message on
this is a spot on and b ken have a
big impact in this coming election, especially with our moms
and their kids. Let's let's let's start it right now.
Speaker 14 (53:30):
We have these agencies that have become sog puppets for
the industries. They're slows to regulate. Oh, they're not really
interested in public health. Everybody. The most profitable thing today
in America is a sick child. Everybody is making money.
The hospitals are making money, the pharmaceutical companies are making money,
even the insurance companies make money. And we need to
(53:53):
end those properson satives. We need to get the corruption
out of FDA, out of NIAH, out of CDC, make
them function as they're supposed to function, which is to
protect public health and particularly children's health.
Speaker 11 (54:06):
Is it fair?
Speaker 2 (54:06):
That is frightening for him to say the most profitable
item that we have in this country today is a
sick child. It is because everybody makes money off a
sick child.
Speaker 3 (54:17):
And he's right, And he doesn't have a better description
for the FDA and the NIH and all of them
than the back puppets, sock puppets. They're regulators who get
revenue from those they're supposed to regulate. I mean, come on,
that is a perverse incentive. He's one hundred percent right.
And if you look at rates of autism amongst boys
in this country, if you look at the at sick children,
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it is happening in the United States at a far
greater rate than anywhere else in the world. And the
fundamental question is why. And I think R. F. Kennedy
Junior is hitting on the reason why. It is profit
it is it is people. It's perverse incentives that make
more profits at the expense of kids and Americans in general.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Yeah, but Greg, let me ask you this, how do
you get that word out? See, I mean, I mean,
we've got less than seventy days.
Speaker 15 (55:04):
Now.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Look, I got to get that.
Speaker 3 (55:07):
There are seventy four million people that voted for Donald J.
Trump in twenty twenty. And I don't think they're going
for Harris this time around, okay. And I don't think
that they're shrugging their shoulders saying I don't think times
are tough enough that I should vote again. I think
he's got seventy four million votes counted today. Okay, that's
fourteen million more than any presidential candidate has ever received.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
Prior.
Speaker 3 (55:27):
Okay, and then you add on top of that, I
think that Robert F. Kennedy Junior has uniquely been able
to reach young people through social media. He has his
campaign has not been on the old school camelot we
love the Kennedy family, cut from that cloth. It has
been young people that his message has really resonated with.
You add those numbers to the seventy four million that
(55:48):
have already voted for Trump, They're going to come back
and do it again. And that's the kind of math
you need to win to win a presidential race. And
that's why I love this coalition and I love Robert F. Kennedy.
You know, he's not going to agree with Trump on everything.
It is a team of rivals, but he cares about
this country more than this totalitarian Democrat party he says
it's turned into.
Speaker 2 (56:09):
Is there still a shy Trump voter out there?
Speaker 3 (56:11):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (56:11):
Yeah, I think there still is out there. I mean
what we mean by the shy Trump voter is And
we talked about this what back in twenty sixteen because
everyone thought Hillary was going to win, but a lot
of you I remember a guy telling me, Rod, look
out there are closet or shy Trump voters out there.
They won't publicly express who they're supporting, but they're going
to get in that voting booth and they're going to
(56:32):
vote for Donald Trump. And that's exactly what happened. The
question is, now, in twenty twenty four, are there still
shy Trump voters out there who are going to show
up on election day and make a change?
Speaker 3 (56:44):
I say yes for two reasons. One, I don't know
that the social stigma is as severe today. I would
certainly agree, So I don't know that. So back in
twenty sixteen and even twenty twenty, there was such a
severe social stigma with supporting Trump that that was really
fueling this show Trump vote. But there is still a stigma.
And then you add to it what's happened in the
(57:04):
last four years, and that's in this Biden Harris administration.
If you're if you support Trump, well we've seen it
in print from the Attorney General and the dj you
could be a potential domestic terrorist. There's actually a scary
weaponization of the Department of Justice where if you do
support Trump loudly, proudly, you're being characterized as a potential
(57:27):
domestic terrorists. There's a lot of people that just want
to live their lives. They don't need to get into
that drama. They don't want to be caught in the
mix of that kind of of perception or even the
efforts of the dj SO. I think that the weaponization
of our our our law enforcement, federal law enforcement, and
that the remaining social stigma creates that quiet or shy
(57:49):
Trump vote that will underpoll and will overperform when it
comes time to vote.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
You don't know how much I hold to hold myself back.
On Saturday shopping with my wife. I won't say where,
but here we're two women wearing Kamala twenty four T shirts.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
Geez.
Speaker 2 (58:04):
I almost wanted to go up and say, are you
not say?
Speaker 3 (58:07):
Okay, what do you love?
Speaker 8 (58:08):
Tell me?
Speaker 3 (58:10):
Three issues? One issue?
Speaker 2 (58:11):
I held myself back. I held myself back, all right?
More Coming up, Rod and Greg with you on Utah's
Talk Radio one oh five nine. Knrs Rod and Greg
Show on Utah's Talk Radio one old nine one oh
five nine can arrests. How do I forget that it's Monday,
It's month. That's my first mistake today?
Speaker 3 (58:28):
Well, I just accidentally hit our listeners don't know, but
I got powers over here.
Speaker 2 (58:33):
You've never had before, which is really frightening.
Speaker 3 (58:36):
You have the NASA like board in front of you. Yes,
and when I'm guest hosting that that thing is just
gret Gremlins in it. It's just terrible. It's a horrible experience.
It freaks me a lot on my mind. But over here,
I just got all my I got, I got laptop up,
I gets and then I get all my show notes
and I just but now my my laptop is connected
and I can play clips. Yeah, and so I am
(58:57):
very powerful.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
You know you've taken over some of my works, by.
Speaker 3 (59:02):
I have no work anymore. Well, it does kind of
spread spread, Yeah, do you want the other studio for
spaces folks? I want you to know how much we care.
I put so many articles on this table and we
won't get to even half of them. But they're here.
They're like arrows in the quiver because it's all happening
in real time.
Speaker 2 (59:22):
A couple of years ago, Rush Limbaugh and we all
miss Rush today talked about Donald Trump and said Donald
Trump will go away someday, but you never will. Talked
about the Trump movement. You are what make Donald Trump
go It's you they can get rid of Trump, but
the movement is going to be still be there because
you believe in America. And that's what Donald Trump leaves in.
(59:43):
Greg Guttfeld at Fox News the other day, I think
it was on Friday show, talked about the difference between
Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, and I think he's pretty
spot on on this one. Listen, because he is.
Speaker 16 (59:54):
There's not that phony engagement of the establishment politician where
they say exactly enough, it's need and it's tidy, and
it's almost impossible to remember what they said after they
said it. Politicians are trained to say nothing, you know,
and he can't do that. He never got that training.
So I think when you're watching vintage Trump, you have
(01:00:15):
to realize that this is how he's going to be
in meetings with people who aren't friendly to the United
States or people who want something from America, and we
demand scrutiny and reciprocity. So just replace the media with
all those people. He's not a figurehead. So if you're
looking at it and go, I can't stand. He's not
a figurehead. He's an agent. He's your agent. He's America's lawyer.
(01:00:40):
He's in the room there to represent his client America,
your needs and your concerns. He's supposed to be an asshole.
You know, he's not interested in impressing the other people
in the room. I want an agent or a lawyer
with that relentless energy that makes people upset, and the
country needs that. I've got four years of perk hungry
(01:01:02):
elites who were there for the pomp and not for
the people. So it's kind of you have to look
at this stuff as a necessity that this guy is
going to be that way in a room with people
that have been screwing us over forever. Do you want
him or do you want Kamala? Who do you want
in that room? You want the guy that nobody likes
(01:01:26):
because they don't.
Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
Like him for a reason.
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
I think guph Fell was fun on you know the
room that he was in, Greg that nobody liked him
in that room.
Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Nato Washington was seele.
Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Around the whole town. He was in that room, and
he was one of the cool kids and talked about
all how nice you are. He just shout straight with him.
They all hated him, and and that's why I loved it.
I said, you know, when he was first selected, I said, Donald,
go be a bull in a china shop, and I
hope he is again.
Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Yeah, and I'm telling you he was. And in the
as he did things that I'm telling you that we would.
He had state lawmakers, Speakers of the House from all
these states, come to the White House compounds, go to
the old Executive Office building, get to meet EPA and Army,
a corps of engineer, the heads, agency heads, and have
their phone numbers and contact information. No presidents done that before.
(01:02:18):
God gets no credit.
Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
For it, no credit whatsoever. All Right, we're rolling into
our number three of the Rod and Greg Show here
on Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine. Can r
s a couple of lawmakers proposing some changes to the
use of cell phones in our schools.
Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
Back to school time. You want to hear this interview.
Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Gary, get your reaction to it coming out. Stay with
us on the Rod and Greg Show. All right, Welcome
back Howard, number three of the Rod and Greg Show
here on Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine k
n rs Rod ourkeuet along with Citizen Hughes. All right, now,
try to imagine this if you possibly can. But there
is actually a columnist at the Washington Post who claims
(01:02:57):
that the wife of Kamala Harris Doug m Off is
a sex symbol.
Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
You know, Rod, people don't drive with barf bags in
the car, saying that because people are just like they're
gagging right now, someone just barf the winch. That guy
is no more a sex symbol than then.
Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Well she claims, she claims he is. He's a modern man,
and that makes him a sex sex symbol.
Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Yeah no, you know what, let me tell you something
modern man that means, that's that's code for a feminine Okay,
that's like, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Touch with his feeling, low te touch with his field.
Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Yeah, he's a low testosterone that's what that's supposed to mean.
But I don't think the guy's low t because you know,
he saw his nanny and you know he had a
little carnal knowledge if you know what I mean, and
got divorced over up. So that doesn't sound like someone
that has a lot of low team.
Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
He's a sexy man. According to Catherine Rerymple at the
Washington Post.
Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Man, like I said, the generic ballot is sexy to them,
the generic Democrat ballot. It could have just say not Trump.
That is sexy. That's a sex and the generic Democrat ballot.
Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
It's terrible, crazy, all right, Well, the kids are back
in school. Yes, you're walking at me like what, Yeah,
they've been making now you don't have kids in school anymore.
Neither do I. I have grandchildren in school. They're all
back in school now. So kind of interesting. But there
is a real movement and I've seen stories all over
the country about this greg of schools starting to recognize
(01:04:23):
the dangers of cell phones. I don't know, telling them
you can't have them in class anymore. You can't even
have them in school anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
And times have changed. And I look for this interview
because there was a debate about this and the advantages
of phones and tablets in school for students ten years ago.
We were having a different debate.
Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Yeah, well yeah. A coalition has come together, led by
a couple of Utah lawmakers and joining us on our
Newsmaker line right now, it's send her Lincoln to fillmore.
This is a proposal that would set up some guidelines
for school districts to use or come up with their
phone to ban cell phones in schools and send her
film More is on our Newsmaker line right now, sender,
(01:05:01):
Thank you. I want to read you this story I
saw it today about the cell phone and the damage
it's doing to our children. It says Americans children are
hurting behind in school after the pandemic. Many children are
now struggling with another major barrier to learning, smartphone addiction.
What's your reaction to that, sender?
Speaker 15 (01:05:20):
Yeah, I agree with I totally agree with that, Rod,
and thanks for having me on. That's really why we
made this announcement today. I'm pleased to be on your
show to talk about it with a wider audience. You know,
cell phones are really a disruption in the learning environment,
and they're a disruption and a hindrance to students' mental
health and social health.
Speaker 10 (01:05:41):
That's why it's We've.
Speaker 15 (01:05:43):
Known this for years, but the data is just becoming
more and more clear. So it's really time to get
cell phones out of school.
Speaker 10 (01:05:50):
Classrooms, you know, Senator.
Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
And this goes to show how little we knew when
I was a public servant, when I was a lawmaker
with you. I remember then Howard steven sent, a State
Center or colleague of yours, he really heralded the cell
phone and tablets as real time learning that you could
learn in real time, and that there were a lot
of advantages from smartphones and tablets having them in the classroom,
(01:06:14):
but that hasn't panned out, has it.
Speaker 15 (01:06:17):
Well, yeah, there are some advantages, but they do not
come near to outweigh the costs. And so that's why
we're you know, this legislation that I've announced today would
really restructure state policy around cell phones to make a
simple change to the default. We're not infringing on local
schools or even local teachers' ability to make decisions, but
(01:06:39):
just saying that in the absence of a policy that
allows them, the default is no. And what we hope
that we'll do is prod school boards and teachers and
parents and students to work together to come and decide
what should where should we allow phones in the school?
Is it possible that we can allow them in classrooms
so the teachers can use them for instant polls or
instant quizzes. That's a great opportunity for teachers to be
(01:07:02):
able to assess learning on an immediate basis as they go,
and there certainly is room for that in schools. But
having the unfettered access that we've had with these smartphones
for a dozen years has really made a negative impact
on the learning environment and a real negative impact on
student health.
Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
So, Senator, it sounds like you're going to leave it
up to the local schools, the local school districts, with
parental involvement, to really come up with their own plan.
But you're saying the default would be just to ban
them completely. Is that right? Am I reading that or
hearing that?
Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (01:07:33):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 11 (01:07:34):
Rod.
Speaker 15 (01:07:35):
I'm here at Granger High School where we held this
press conference today, where they've implemented a bell to bell
ban and where students keep their cell phones in magnetically
locked pouch during the school day, and just to hear
their principal talk about how that has gone, Tyler, how
the principal here just in only nine school days, they've
already noticed that teachers are getting through their curriculums faster,
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students are paying more attention, learning and retaining the material better,
and that he noticed that the lunch room is now
noisy at lunchtime because students are talking to each other
instead of staring at a screen.
Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
So, I what you said makes so much sense to me,
and it's and I'm glad that you're stepping forward, and
it's a good coalition. Tell tell our listeners about who
this isn't just an a silo you as a lawmaker
with a representative Welton. This is a You've got the
superintendent of public schools with you talking maybe a little
bit about the coalition that that's come together for this policy.
Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Yeah, thanks for that.
Speaker 10 (01:08:35):
Greg.
Speaker 15 (01:08:35):
You mentioned Doug Welton, who has just been you know,
he's a public school educator. Now he wasn't at our
conference today because he's teaching. But we have the state
superintendent here, we have members of the state school Board.
We had the superintendent and board members from the Granite
School Board. We've got the policy project. So this is,
you know, just the private philanthropy who's coming to the
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table to help funding so.
Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
That schools can buy these tools that they'll.
Speaker 15 (01:09:02):
Need, you know, to be able to keep cell phones
secure and unopen during the school day. It really is
a broad coalition and we're announcing this here at the
end of August just a school starting because we want
to broaden that coalition further before our legislative session happens
next year.
Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
The Center filmore. Do you expect some pushback from parents
who say you know I need to be able to
get a hold of my child instantly, Letting them have
a cell phone in the classroom is the easiest way
to do. Then, do you expect a little bit of
pushback here?
Speaker 15 (01:09:31):
I do, but I think that if parents are willing
to look at the data, what they'll find is that
that immediate access, kind of that teather that keeps parents
and kids connected all the time during the school day,
is having a real negative effect on their own children's
ability to be successful in school, to be successful in friendships,
and that in case of an emergency, which is what
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I've already heard about from parents, that they worry about
what will happen in the case of an emergency. Having
the cell phone networks at a school clogged up with
three thousand kids all trying to access social media at
the exact same time during an emergency, it actually makes
things less safe. And so we think the data shows
that from across the country where incidents have happened. So
(01:10:15):
I feel pretty confident that this is the right policy
moving forward.
Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
And I asked you about pushback from parents, what about
pushback from some lawmakers? Do you think there'll be some
opposition up on the.
Speaker 15 (01:10:25):
Hill probably because you know, lawmakers will respond to the
wishes of their constituents, and I think.
Speaker 9 (01:10:34):
That's perfectly appropriate.
Speaker 15 (01:10:36):
But that is again one reason why we're announcing this early.
Speaker 17 (01:10:39):
You know, we want.
Speaker 10 (01:10:40):
To hear what the pushback is like.
Speaker 15 (01:10:42):
We want to craft a good policy, and we want
to empower local schools to that policy. And I hope
that my colleagues in the legislature will recognize the harm
that cell phones and especially smartphones are doing inside of
our classrooms, inside of our schools. We'll just take the
step to change that default while still empowering parents to
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be able to work with their local school boards to
be able to craft a policy that's right on a
community by community basis.
Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
On our news micro line, State Senator Lincoln Fillmore, thank
you Center Fillmore for joining us. They've got some legislation
there dealing to with cell phones in school and you say,
what they're proposing, it is pretty smart legislation right now,
It's really smart.
Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
And I'll tell you why. The little detail that Center
that Filmore mentioned is this would be a default, this
would be the state policy. But if you have a
school board, a locally elected school board that wants to
have a more prescriptive or different policy. They are free
to do so, but in the absence of a really
well thought out policy regarding devices and phones, this is
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the policy. So legislature when I was there, could be
accused of being trying to be a super school district
and usurping local control. This doesn't do that. This just
puts a policy in place any school district if they
want to have a different way than they can. And
so I do think it's I think it's a really
smart way to put a bill together.
Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Yeah, well, let's open up the phones for a few
minutes on this issue, because I think it's always an
interesting discussion to have some parents. Some parents want their
children to have school cell phones in schools, as he
just mentioned. I think Center Film Moore Man was it
Granger High School.
Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
That's where they had That's where they had the press convert.
Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Yeah, but I think that's also a school that has
banned cell phones from bell to bell this year.
Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
And they don't say don't bring them in to school.
They they want to put them in these bags, in
magnetic bags. By the way, I went to an I
went to a comedian's concert at the Delta Center and
they had those bags. You had the Brillian phone and
yeah you could, they could. You couldn't have your phone out.
Wasn't it funny that a center Filmore said that the
that the cafeteria got louder, people started talking to each other.
They actually talked to figure go figure communication talking out loud.
Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
And then amazing gus. All right, Uh, we want to
hear from you about this idea where this would be
a default bill. From what I understand, right, they'd leave
it up to the schools and the parents to come
up their policy for the individual schools. That's what I like.
This is just a fallback position if they can't come
up with that. But I'd like to see if we've
got a parent out there who has a child going
to school right now and they aren't allowed to use
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their cell phones, if in fact they're noticing a difference.
Wonder if it's happened.
Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Are you noticing a difference? Do you hate the idea?
Do you want your kid to have the phone if
you needed to text them right away during the day.
Let's say you folks the number to call eight eight
eight five seven zero eight zero one zero.
Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
All right, we're talking about cell phones and schools. Lawmakers
are proposing an idea which would give school districts and
parents a fallback position to take if, in fact, they
can't come up with a policy on cell phones and schools.
We're getting your reaction to it. Let's go to Lisa
and Draper tonight here on the Rowden Greg Show. Hi, Lisa,
how are you.
Speaker 5 (01:13:44):
Hey?
Speaker 18 (01:13:44):
I'm doing great.
Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
How about you, guys, We're doing well. Thanks for asking.
Speaker 18 (01:13:49):
Thanks. I absolutely love the policy. I don't know all
the nuts and bolts of them, but I do love
the policy. We should have never allowed cell phones in
the schools ever. But I only have one caution, only
one thing that worries me, And the one thing that
worries me is the fact that we have several several
videos coming out of students in school of their teachers
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and what they're teaching them, and sometimes we get too
much woke ideology pushed down their throats, trying to change
them instead of trying to teach them math and English
and the good things. They're trying to teach the other crap.
That is the only thing negative about this that I
can see. It protects the teachers from doing whatever they want,
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and it's great because we have a lot of good teachers,
but there's I think it means parents are going to
have to be more active. They're going to have to
be finding out what's going on and get in that
room and see what kind of things are up on
the walls, and see what the talk to your kids.
I love the fact that they're going to be communicating.
You know, we don't allow cell phones at our dinner
table for a reason.
Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Good for you.
Speaker 18 (01:14:53):
We like to communicate. So that's my thinking. That's the
only negative that I can see. But the rest of
it sounds awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
All right, Lisa, thanks great observation. I agree. I agree
the whole way. And then it's true. The viral the
videos we've seen have been those those candid moments where
they put the video on and you've seen a teacher
act in a way you a parent is not meant
to ever see a teacher act. And I think those
have been important moments.
Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
She just made me feel really guilty. Why because sometimes
I have my cell phone with pan at the dinner table.
Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
Yeah, I never ever. I don't even know what a
cell phone is. I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Right back to the phones, we go, let's talk with
Kevin in Clearfield tonight here on the Rotting Greg Show.
Hi Kevin, how are you.
Speaker 5 (01:15:38):
Hi?
Speaker 17 (01:15:38):
How's it going?
Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
We're doing well, Thank you for asking.
Speaker 9 (01:15:42):
Awesome.
Speaker 17 (01:15:42):
So my question is about active shooters, earthquakes, real actual emergencies.
I mean, if the kids locked in the classroom, they
can't ask their cell phone, what happens in that situation.
Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
It's a great question. And when Center Fillmore we asked
him that, he said that sometimes when when students are
all alert an emergency, say an earthquake or something at
the same time, and they all would attempt to use
their phones, it actually they jam and they're not able
to get out good point, yeah, and communicate the way
you would imagine because everybody's using it at the same time.
So Senator Fillmore said, the assumption that that would be
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the case is also challenging. If everyone was trying to
use their cell phone.
Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Well, what did we do when we were in school?
Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
We got under the desk? I think, yeah, I think
I was like the drill we used to have the
nuclear war.
Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Did you have the nuclear war?
Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Time you had to go sit under our desk? Like
that was that mushroom cloud is going to be going
to be protected.
Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
We didn't do under the desk. We went out in
the hall kneeled with our face against the wall.
Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
Yeah, I just I don't even.
Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Know that was going to protect.
Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
Us from the fire drills too.
Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
But you know, yeah, we have fire drills all the time.
But I mean, the cell phone is a is an issue,
right if But but like you, I didn't even think
about what cender Fillmore said. If you've got eight hundred
kids in the school and all of a sudden there's emergency,
they've all got cell phones. They're jamming the lines, are
they not?
Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
That that is the risk and it's you've seen and
if you go to a football game, that's a lot
more than what's inside of a school. But you've gone
anywhere where anyone's trying to use all their phones at
the same time. It does make it. It does gum
up the system. I have a question because I've we've
gotten a couple of our loyal listeners that have brought
up the iPhone watch. Is there a watch that you
can't I don't, I don't I don't have a I
don't have one. Can you text on them? Or are
(01:17:20):
they as much of a distraction. I'm I'm just curious.
I don't think there's much a distract. Now I can
take a call on my on my eye watch. Okay, okay,
can you text on that I watch?
Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Yes, I can text on it.
Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
That's like passing notes. Really, yeah you can't.
Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Well it's kind of tiny, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
Yeah, I see it, but I just don't. I think
the whole point is to keep the eyes off of devices,
in on the teacher or on a.
Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
Well, you can't tell them not to wear a watch.
Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Well, I watch, you can.
Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
No, you can't.
Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
I think you can. Just I don't know. I again,
I would defer to our wise listeners because the watch
angle I hadn't the wrinkle I hadn't thought of, And
then catching teachers acting poorly is also I think there's
been an advantage of that. But I swear to you though,
these kids are having a difficult time communicating with each
other in real time because of the dependency on technology.
Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Well, there's a there's a there's a new one and
it's sold here in Utah. You'll see ad for the
gap watch gab watch, which allows you to do some
things and doesn't allow you to do what other things?
That I understand it's pretty popular with especially the younger kids. Yeah,
you know, so that'd be okay. John is in South
Jordan tonight listening to Rod and Greg wants to weigh
in on this. Hi, John, how are you? Thanks for
(01:18:34):
joining us?
Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Good?
Speaker 4 (01:18:36):
I was just, you know, thinking, since we have police
that wear cameras for camera stops, let's just take and
if we take and put a camera in so that
the parents the teachers are recorded during the classroom days
and then the parents can access that and view it
at any time, that would help eliminate the need for
(01:18:57):
the cell phone in the classroom too.
Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
I loved that idea. I've had teachers that that aren't
afraid that they're acting poorly, but have not liked the
idea of having those cameras in there. But I always
thought that I'm with John. I would think if you
had a large class size, which Utah's classes are inherently
larger per teacher, had a lot of kids there, man,
if you saw your kid acting up in misbehaving, or
(01:19:21):
you're told watch the video that this period the kid
was misbehaving, I could I think that would help in
class management and also for those rare moments where you
do see a teacher saying things that that teacher would
not say in the presence of a teacher. Maybe that
sobers them up a little bit and they don't say
things they wouldn't say in front of a teacher.
Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
I have a son who was a treachery now in
an administration. He hated the idea.
Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Yeah, well, so I'm curious why because I wouldn't imagine
he's doing anything he wouldn't. He wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
But I don't know. I think I think teachers generally
do not like the idea. Now I may be wrong, No,
I think you're right, But I think teachers do not
like the idea put in a classroom or put in
a camera in a class from We have cameras all
over this building. Yeah, now we don't have them in
this studio per se. They won't allow it because it's
so obscene.
Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
In you've seen them.
Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Well, we walk up and down the hall, everything we
do in this building is on a camera. Yeah, I'm
not I understand, and I don't understand because there is
some opposition to this from teachers at times, and I
don't I we'll get more calls on this one too.
Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
Teachers a lot of teachers I deeply respect, don't like
the idea of the cameras in there, But I just
it doesn't track with me because I think it could help.
It could help in that classroom environment, especially if you've
got a kid that's been rotten. It's not your word
versus theirs, or a lot of parents, just let them
see it. Sometimes it's it's easier to communicate through video
and letting someone see something versus a written report that
(01:20:44):
says something's happened.
Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
All right, let's open up the phones on that one
as well. We got a lot of people went in
that sure did spark some interest. Cameras in the classroom
eight eight eight five seven o eights. There are a
one zero triple eight five seven oags or a one
zero on your cell phone dial pound two fifty and
say hey Rod, it is in hues and along with
Rod Arkent, you're on talk radio one oh five nine
can Ter s boy. People really want to weigh in
(01:21:06):
on this idea of either banning cell phones or cameras. Now,
we were just told that all the buses in the
Jordan School District. School buses have cameras in there, Yes,
and they're to protect the drivers and protect the kids
at the same time.
Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
And there's no drama to it. The bus drivers, well,
at least from the reports we get, you know, from
our ears reports is that it is a welcomed asset
for the driver to have when you know, Gammer in
the school bus like that period for a myriad of reasons.
And I would think that the same would apply in classrooms,
(01:21:39):
but I've heard differently from some teachers.
Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
So it's Rod and Greg gun Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine can Arrests being joined by Steve in
leyton tonight, who wants to give us his thoughts on this.
How are you, Steve? Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
Oh, I'm fine.
Speaker 4 (01:21:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
I'd like to see body cams on the teachers.
Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
I don't think that would ever happened to Steve. Have
you all my honor's opinion?
Speaker 11 (01:22:04):
I don't think you would either, but they'd have to
put on front and back.
Speaker 8 (01:22:06):
I guess I don't know if still right on the blackboards.
Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
I think they do. I think are blackboards still in
his classrooms anymore? I've been to a classroom forever. Isn't
it all electronic stuff? I I don't know what you're
stunned by that question.
Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
No, I I don't know if there's it's a very
good question. I should know whether there's chalkboards in schools,
but I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
I don't either have no idea either. Robert is in
Morgan tonight with Rod and Greg.
Speaker 8 (01:22:30):
Hi, Robert, oh, Rod, Hello, Greg? How are you today?
Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
We're doing well? Thank you?
Speaker 9 (01:22:38):
Good?
Speaker 18 (01:22:39):
Hey.
Speaker 8 (01:22:40):
So the only question I got, I don't have a
problem with the banning of cell phones, but my daughter
uses hers for medical purposes. Okay, So I'm just curious
how they would use how they would identify that issue.
Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
I wonder if there'd be an exemption would that I
would think there would have to be.
Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
Yeah, it would be like going to the nurse's option.
Know how, if there's some medication you have to take
while you're at the school, there's a process for the
nurse to know about it. I would imagine that for
medical purposes, there would be some kind of process for that.
Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
Do you ever fake being sick all the time? What
that fake?
Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
Goodness? Yeah, for all the times I said I was sick,
I was never sick. You were never I'd just like
to sleep.
Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
Yeah. Well, the lawmakers held their event today. Well, one
of the lawmakers. The other one couldn't be there with
this school, Yeah, because he teaches. School was held at
Granger High School today which have banned cell phones. Bell
to bell, And we have Eric in West Valley whose
son goes to Granger. What's the report back, Eric from
your son? What does he think of this idea?
Speaker 19 (01:23:41):
Well, fortunately he's not a screen ager, which he calls
a lot of kids that just can't get off.
Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
Their phone like that.
Speaker 10 (01:23:52):
He doesn't mind it overall.
Speaker 19 (01:23:53):
The one one part that has been difficult. As you
can imagine that there's about three thousand kids and come
into school that as they drop off there's a little
bit of a delay. But once they get out of school,
trying to get to their phone and get where they
need to get it's difficult. There's three three stations and
three thousand kids trying to get their mobile devices can
(01:24:17):
be difficult. But I was also going to let you
know that at least a Granger, my understanding is it
is their phone, it is their air watch, their their
Apple watches and their AirPods. They have to put those in.
Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
Wow watches and then get them out.
Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
After everything higher in everything.
Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
You you have identified the part That's why I love
that you as a caller. I love the art colors
you'vedentify three thousand kids in three stations. That's like, that'd
be like World Wars E zombie movie. People trying to get.
Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
To those crawl over each other, crawl over each other.
All right, Eric, thank you. Let's go to uh pat
in where is he? He's in cash Cash Valley, tonight,
beautiful Cash Valley. Hi, Pat, how are you?
Speaker 9 (01:25:00):
Hi?
Speaker 20 (01:25:01):
I'm fine. I enjoy your show, you guys, And I
don't know. I couldn't hear the comments, but I think
there needs I love the idea, but I believe there
needs to be accommodations being made for diabetices that monitors
and with that's something that's.
Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Already brought up.
Speaker 20 (01:25:23):
I don't know that. And then carrying aids adjustments are
made on cell phones. So those two, those two, I
think they need to make some accommodations for for that
and especially the diabetics, uh kids, because that can make
a difference between life and death.
Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Yeah, it can, Pat, And I would I would have
to think, Greg, there be you know, and the beauty
of what sender Fillmore and.
Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
The other lawmaker represent Welton.
Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
Yeah, I have thought about is each school or school
district would be allowed to come up with their own
plan with input from parents. That's the beauty of this
idea is that each school or school district would come
up with their own idea. And I think that's the
way it should.
Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
I actually have a better way. The input from the
callers and listeners of this show probably would be superior
to all parents in respective school. So we draft the
poll just reflect the sentiments of our callers, and there
is there's the common sense right there, because these have
been great. These have been really really good observations. The
one about the three stations that all the kids have
(01:26:32):
to go to get their phones, that's a practical problem
that needs talking about that I watch. I think that
was a good detail brought up medical having those health considerations.
There has to be accommodation for that for obvious reasons.
So I love these observations that are And the cameras
in the classroom that keeps you from having a video
on your phone.
Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Yeah, what what did one of our callers call them
a screen ager?
Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
Screen ager?
Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
I kind of like that screen agers, not a screen agent. Well,
let's go to Grantsville. Well, Lynn wants to talk about
this tonight with Rod and Greg. Hi, Lynn, how are you?
Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
I'm doing well? How are you?
Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
We're well? Thank you.
Speaker 11 (01:27:09):
The point I just want to make was, you know,
I've got smart watches, but they only work when my
phone works. So I don't know if iPhones work the
same way with those high watches. But if you don't
have your phone or your phone with the have data,
you're my watch. You can't text or call on.
Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
That, Lynn. Is there a range for that? So if
they had their their phone and like one of those
magnetic bags are talking about, would the would would it
have to be with that phone? If it have to
be so close to the watch for it to work.
I don't know. I don't have one.
Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Yeah, I think the magnetic bag.
Speaker 11 (01:27:43):
Yeah, it just connects true bluetooth. So if my phone
loses data, like if I put an airplane metal one,
it's just a watch.
Speaker 9 (01:27:51):
At that point.
Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Yeah, okay, all right, all right, Lynn, thank you. Let's
go to uh Steven. He's on I fifteen tonight with
Rod and Greg. Hi, Steven, thanks for joining.
Speaker 10 (01:27:58):
Us, Hey, Rod, thanks for taking the call.
Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
You're welcome.
Speaker 10 (01:28:02):
My brother is a teacher. My brother's a teacher up
in Hebrew and they've had the cameras in the classroom
for several years, and in random incidents, the cameras have
been called up quite frequently, and it's used to verify
student activities, teachers' activities, whether they're spending too much time
at death or not. And this year they actually instituted
(01:28:23):
a cell phone ban, but the students are allowed to
have the phones as long as they're not out in
the classroom. So for children with diabetic pumps, the phone
runs the pump, but if the phone comes out, the
teacher can take the phone and send into the office
or write the child up or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
What kind of benefits have they had from the cameras
in the classroom, Steven, what's your brother say about that?
Does he like it?
Speaker 10 (01:28:51):
He does, because when parents have had questions, they pull
the footage in front of the teacher in the principal's
office and everybody looks at it together they say, well,
either this happened or it didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
Wow, wow, wait, I just go straight back to my youth.
I'm just Stephen's brilliant announcement. I love that this is
actually on the ground happening. I love in Utah, so
and Hebrew. They have cameras in the classroom, just like
the school bus driver. It's saying, we have cameras on
the school bus. So this isn't like impossible, it's not incomprehensible.
It's actually happening in a lot of schools, a lot
(01:29:25):
of classrooms, a lot of buses. The narration is that
it does help reveal the behavior of the kid. And
these are the behavior of the teacher and of the teacher.
And I think all of this resonates with me because
I think about my conduct as a kid when I'm
in school, and I am just very grateful there were
no cameras.
Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
The stories do you tell me?
Speaker 8 (01:29:47):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
And I'm suform, I'm a reformed, I'm a you know,
as an adult father, I'm not you know, I don't
condone the conduct of that kid, you know, but I
will say, if you had a video camera in there,
that would have a chilling effect on a lot of spitballs.
Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
Yeah, a lot of stuff. I am so surprised you
aren't in an orange jump.
Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
You know what. I am too. You know what, there's
some good people in my life that helped me through there.
I will tell you that if I'm a kid and
I want to cause trouble but there are cameras going on,
I think I would know I would be in trouble.
Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
All Right, more coming up, final segment, Rod and Greg
with you on this Monday and talk radio Want oh
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Speaker 3 (01:30:40):
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Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
Now we're we're going to do a little fun with this,
wiring out the details. But I think what's going to
happen is we're going to give away tickets to the event,
and included in that ticket giveaway before the event is
dinner with Rod and Greg. No, I don't think we'll
get anybody.
Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
Now, I was going to say, we think this is
and we think this is a value add ladies and gentlemen.
We don't think this will have a chilling effect on
the contest to win tickets to see Tucker Carlson and Glen.
Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
You know they may win and not show up for
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Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
Yeah, I hope not.
Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
We're trying to put it together at the Huckleberry Grill,
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You're going to ruin it for us. This is actually
that's one of the host tickets in town. I'm telling
you there's a lot of people excited about talker Craft.
Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
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Plus we're going to combine that with dinner before the event,
and uh, mister Hughes myself.
Speaker 3 (01:31:44):
Will be We're going to feed you. We're gonna be.
Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
We aren't doing the cooking, are we No?
Speaker 3 (01:31:48):
But we can we can, we can faciler.
Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
Are we serving you if you're if you're waited on tables?
Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
I was, well, I was, I was a you're a
bus boys, A bus boy I've never done. I was
the bus boy and the omelet chef on Sunday brunch.
Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
Really yeah, but I was do you make a good omelet?
Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
I make a brilliant omelet. That's where I learned to
make them. Yeah, really, every Christmas morning I make omelets
made to order.
Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Never invited me down to your house Christmas.
Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
Well, omlets, you haven't lived till you've had in my omelets.
I'm telling you, that's the only thing I can.
Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
I wanted to know how these servers put about eighteen
plates on their arms and walk down a nile.
Speaker 9 (01:32:23):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (01:32:23):
I as a bell house, I used to be able
to eat off the buffet on Sundays and I used
to literally put eighteen plates. I could only go once.
The manager would let me go once through the brunch
line would I would balance literally six plates on my tour.
Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
Well, we wanted to tell you stay tuned. In the
coming days, we'll have details how you can win, and
you'll get tickets to see Tucker and Glenn and before that,
dinner with you and I.
Speaker 3 (01:32:46):
Yeah, it'll be fun. Honestly, in all seriousness, this is
going to be an incredible event. These are widely pop
wildly popular. Tucker Carlson is a thought leader and a
funny guy and funny and these shows are entertaining. And
he doesn't always have Glenn be with him. This is
a this is fun to have the two of them.
Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
He's going around the country to different cities, and every
city he has different co hosts with him, and here
in soult Lake, he's he's planned the deal'll have like.
Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
Glenn with him and on going back show that he
had Tuck run the other day and he said it
because Glenn knows how to talk to him an audience.
It's going to be especially fun.
Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
Yeah, it will be fun, so stay tuned for that.
We'll have details coming out in the coming days and
a chance for you to win. So it should be fun.
Should be fun.
Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
Hey, back to school, I know time to go?
Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
Yeah, don't got any time, Farnet, you don't pay attention
to the clock. I don't obviously, all right, that doesn't
for us Tonight, head up, shoulders back. May God bless
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We'll be back to arm we promise. At four
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show on Utah's Talk
Radio one O five nine a n r.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
S shaping up to be a big, big week, folks.
We've got a lot, a lot of a lot of
talk show, you know, the Sunday shows, a lot of
a lot of oh yeah, a lot of things happening.
We grab some of the most relevant comments and quotes
for you to consider here on the show. And I'm
telling you that there's a there's a there's I think
there's a momentum. Rod, I'm telling you this week, I
think we're going to be talking all about the the
(00:26):
bump that wasn't for Kamala Harris at that convention last week.
Nobody seems overly impressed. It's not just JFK RFK Junior
that has endorsed Trump. Now today, Tulsea Gabber has also
formally endorsed Donald Trump for president. And I just think
that you're going to see the mo. This is big
mo Monday. Okay, big momentum Monday. We're gonna see this
(00:48):
momentum shifting away from Kamala Harris Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
We have got a lot to get to as we
do each end every day, as you work your way
home here with U Toa's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Canterrests.
In just a minute, Greg is going to read a
I think it was it a letter or of what
was it exactly? Greg?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It was a post, Bruce.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Was a post by Tammy Bruce ripping and I do
mean ripping into the Kennedy family for attacking RFK Junior
and his his h endorsement of Donald Trump. I mean,
she is laying it all out there, and somebody should
because the treatment of the Kennedys to Robert F. Kennedy
Junior is just atrocious.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It's awful, It's it's a little bit of a lengthy Yeah,
we'll read it if you want the whole thing, right,
I don't know what part you would omit if you
were the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Also coming up, we'll talk about the Kamala's bait and
switch progressiveness. Isn't it funny? How and we've had a
bite with is it Tom Cotton? I think talking about
the bait and switch that is taking place with Kamala Harris,
all of a sudden she's going to the middle, But
is she really We'll get into that as well. We'll
also talk about Donald Trump's race to lose. We'll get
(01:57):
into how the Democrats are attracting voters to Kamala Harris.
And here in Utah, we'll talk about a possible ban
on cell phones in schools and we'll get your comments
on that and anything you'd like to talk about today
here on the Rodd and Greg Show in Utah's Talk
Radio one oh five nine K and are as a busy,
busy day coming up. Now, what about the attack on
(02:19):
the Robert F. Kendi Jr.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
So I think Queen Bee Christa pointed this out to me,
and it is a powerful, powerful message and it really
was written soon after RFK Junior's sister put out a
formal proclamation or public statement condemning her brother. Yeah yeahs
going on and then attached this and had all a
lot of his siblings, not all of them, but a
(02:41):
lot of his siblings attaching their names to it, condemning
their brother and saying it so he's a sad it's
a sad ending to a sad story, just really ripping
him and it's a sibling. This is what Tammy Bruce
had to say about this, and really her response again
was right almost emotionally in response to this. Right after
that that announcement came out last week, she says an
open letter to Carrie, who was the sister who put
(03:02):
this out. Carrie Kennedy, you people are awful. Despite your
family's checkered past and horrible behavior of so many of
the men Americans, of so many of the men Americans
have stood with you out of loyalty, sentimentality, and too
often grief, despite the questionable establishment of your family's wealth,
the treatment of Marilyn Monroe, the General Womanizing, the abandonment
(03:23):
of Mary Joe Kopecney to her death, allegations of rape.
One could go on and on, but the point is
your family has stayed loyal and protective of family members
who have done the most appalling of things. But the
moment one of your own acts on his conscience for
his country, you attempt to throw him to the wolves
and publicly condemn him. Never a word for the trail
(03:46):
of abused or abandoned women left behind by a Kennedy,
but because of one of your men, because one of
your men supports Trump in an effort to make the
lives of Americans better, that alone is beyond the pale
in your ugly treatment of you, your brother. You reveal
the rot that has broken the hearts of many of
the American people so many times over the years. Beyond that,
(04:07):
the economic destruction of the American families is something your
family would truly never understand. You're not touched by the
worry of about having enough gas to get the work,
or whether you can afford or whether or not you
can afford the eggs this week, if you'll be safe
walking in your own neighborhood, or if your child will
be safe in their urban public school, or even if
(04:28):
they'll know how to read and write while collecting their diploma.
You keep doing civil rights work and public service virtue signaling,
but in the meantime, make a pledge to not keep
doing damage. As Americans are simply looking for a way
to reclaim their own futures and safety for their families,
and knowing that maybe, just maybe they can leave their
children with a little better off future, with the future
(04:50):
that they can rely on. The condition of this country
should shock everyone, even if their name is Kennedy. We
know it at least shocks one of you like it
does the rest of us. And he has enough enough
fear of and hopelessness. What like like us has had
enough of the fear and hopelessness assigned to us for generations.
(05:12):
Americans are happy to see Bobby on our side as
we refuse to comply and will not go gentle, will
not go gentle into the catastrophe to which we are
expected to succumb. Instead, with Trump and all who join us,
we will fight, fight, fight.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Well that is was that? That was Tammy Bruce?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Hemmy Bruce who wrote that she used to do a
radio talk show down in the Los Angeles area years ago,
But she's right. The medium and even his own family
spent the weekend trashing Robert F. Kendy Jr. For a
decision that he made. Said, I think this is a
better decision for the country. That's why I am going
to back Donald Trump. And I am sick and tired
(05:51):
of the shenanigans taking place within the Democratic National Committee.
They You know, no one even voted for Kamala Harris,
yet she is now the nominee.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You know what, the media fails to ever report accurately
or they can't even have a discussion about this. You
see that that Adam Kissinger, whatever his name is, that
the clown that cries all the time, that's a Republican,
or even Liz Cheney, who they hate. The Democrats hate
the Cheney so much when they want to rip on
Trump their heroes, and they're not you know, they put
(06:21):
party or the country in front of party or more
important than party. This guy, he was right, he said,
He said, Joe Biden is not able to continue. He
was correct. He had a right to run in that
primary and make the case that they ultimately knew was
the case, but just wanted to do by fiat. They
want to do it by by replacing him without a
(06:42):
single vote. He and there was another Democrat that attempted
to run in a primary and they were completely shut
out of that process. But they were absolutely correct in
their assessment. And you know, this establishment that Kennedy has
just had a gut full of and the rest of
us have too, they knew it, and they just wouldn't
let a free, a fair process go on and by
(07:02):
way a primary, so they just picked their winner.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And he said, enough is enough. I'm not I'm not
going along with this anymore. And my family can love
me or hate me, and it apparently is that they
hate him now. For doing just that. Now, on top
of that, a bit of an oddity today at the
Arlington National Cemetery in the nation's capital, as we marked
the what is it third year anniversary of America's withdrawal
from Afghanistan, But walking along the corridors at the Arlington
(07:28):
National Cemetery is one Donald J. Trump, who went there
to honor the fallen and Spencer Cox, cover of Utah,
walking side by side and chatting.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah. So, you know, there's there's been talk about this
leading up to this in the in the political circles.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
You know, Governor Cox wrote a letter after the Estento assassination,
and I guess they had communicated. Now, the nexus to
this visit is Arlington National Cemetery where one of Utah's
one members of the military, was it Sergeant Hoover Hoover
who was killed in this They came back to President Trump,
(08:10):
put reese at their graves and honored these thirteen members
service members who were killed at the Cabal Airport three
years ago. Well, because one of them is from Utah,
the governor of Utah was there and there's some pictures
of them together walking Arlington Cemetery and I think I
heard them say, please, please be nice to me. Please, Chris,
(08:31):
President Trump. I'll be good from now on, I promise
I will. I'll be good. Just just please be nice.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I was wondering if you said something along my lines.
I really like you, I really really do like you.
There's been a change of heart. I know our listeners
have a jaundice to eye to this change of heart.
I'm so surprised. I don't know why. No, I know
what's going on.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
We all do, but I you know, we don't want
to take away from the somber moment of that of
Arlington Cemetery and why President Trump was there. And amazingly,
while there was a statement put out by Biden today
was acknowledging it. Where was You can't find him.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
He's on a beach in California. Where comel is? Nobody knows.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I checked the regime media, the Washington Post and the
New York Times. They don't have a word to say
about the three year anniversary of this debacle. Washington Post
mentions that Trump says it's all Biden's fault. It doesn't
even talk about it. It is objectively a failure and
hard to watch people falling off a plane as it's
taking off from the sky, leaving all that military equipment
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behind five billion dollars something like that. Just a crazy
that should not even be a campaign issue. That should
be a moment of mourning about how low we were
and how low we've come from what we used to
be in a moment like that and that withdrawal. But
now they can't meet They certainly can't do it in
a presidential campaign cycle.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Don't want to make the Democrats look bad at all.
All right, we've got a lot to get too. Great
to be with you on this Monday afternoon, Rod and
Greg right here on Utah's Talk Radio one on five
dne can arrest. When we come back, we'll talk about
Kamala's bait and switch progressiveness. Is this Donald Trump's race
to lose? We'll talk about that coming up at four
thirty five right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh
(10:13):
five nine kN ars.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Now, before we go to our guest, we have a
I have a clip I want to play and what
this is on the Sunday shows of the news political shows,
you have a lot of different exchanges that take place.
Senator Tom Cotton is on ABC's This week, and he's
going through a litany of incredibly liberal to socialist positions
that Kamala Harris has has taken a position on, and
(10:38):
in one of them, he mentions that she wants to
take away our private health insurance. So he gets called
out on it. We jump into this clip where he
is being questioned by the moderator about that position. Because
the moderator is defending Kamala Harris at this moment. Let's
have a quick listen to this.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
They're always, what do you mean taking away health insurance?
What are you talking about?
Speaker 7 (10:56):
She said when she ran for president that she wants
to eliminate private health insurance. It's on the job eventy
million Americans.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
John, Yeah, I mean I mean that that is not
her position.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Now she how do you know this? But do you
know that her position?
Speaker 6 (11:07):
I mean she she says, you know, she.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
She has not said that. Maybe anonymous aids on a
Friday night have said that. But but the last thing
that she said this was.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Not a radical uh convention.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
I mean she she she as you heard me go
through with Bernie Sanders, she is not taking the positions
of the far left of her party. She's clearly making
an effort to move to the medal.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
I did hear what you said to Sanater Sanders, and
I thought it was clear that he's very disappointed that
she's taking these efforts not to change her positions, but
to hide her positions. John, the American people are totally
justified to conclude.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
That, Well, he goes on, but to hide her positions
is the point there. Yeah, and I'm glad he and
I'm glad he didn't let the moderator go saying she's
never said that, she has never come out her lips
to our ears, We've never heard any of these so
called new positions of hers.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It's all coming through her camp pain, not from Kamala
Harris herself well joining us on our newsmaker line. Our
good friend Terry Jones, editor at Issues and Insight, been
writing about this. Terry, you talk about the bait and
switch progressivism for socialism that is taking place with a
Harris campaign. What do you make of it, Terry, Well.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
You know, it's a giant shell game really, and when
you think about it, it's going to be It would
be devastating to our economy because the things that have
been mentioned at least in the past by the Democrats
and by Kamala Harris and specific are so outrageously large
(12:37):
in terms of the money spent that it's astounding. It's
just the handouts she has laid out with total one
point seven trillion dollars. The tax hikes, I mean, astounding,
astoundingly huge tax increases, you know, going from twenty one
(12:58):
to twenty eight percent on corporate tax and quadrupling tax
on stock buybacks, you know, raising capital gains tax. You know,
just you can go down a long list of things
and these are are essentially a tax on industrial America.
(13:18):
You think about also the plans they have in place
for doing things like uh, you know, increasing death taxes
on people, and you know, you can just go down
a long list of things and and they're just going
to be devastating to the economy. Meanwhile, on a on
a parallel track, they're moving they want to move things
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under the government's agents that never existed there before. You know,
this whole Green New Deal idea that's essentially, ah, you know,
a cart launch for government to put itself in control
of you know, the industrial sector of our economy. I mean,
that's there's no other way to put it. I mean
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we would in essence be socializing our industrial base, and
that's that would be devastating to us. I mean, we
would have a collapse that people would not even believe.
It would be on a depression era of scale.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I think so, Terry, this is I don't think people
are really taking inventory the way you have in this
bait and switch progressivism, which is really socialism. Is there
ever been an election where we have a candidate and
were this many days less than seventy days away from
an election where they never had a primary. Every candidate
(14:37):
that's been a nominee to a major party I believe
went through a primary process of some sort where they
had to answer direct questions. There have been none. You
have her to the very very eleventh and a half
hour being able to never make it take a position.
She's been the nominee now for weeks, we still don't
have any specific As cenator Tom Cotton pointed out, you
(14:59):
have rumored late night second. You know Sarah gets who
may say what her position is or is not, but
she herself has never had to take an affirmative stance
on anything. She's now trying to change the rules to
the debate, hoping that she can get to not have
to debate Trump. How in the world are we going
to pin her down on the scary agenda that you've
(15:19):
laid out that is so much even worse than what
we've lived here with Biden.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Oh yeah, it's far worse. And because we have a
coowed media that is apparently in the bag for Kamala Harris,
they're not going to ask the tough questions or not
going to compel her to answer the tough questions that
they wanted to. If they wanted to, they could be
(15:44):
very aggressive and they're questioning, but they're not, and they're
not complaining about it. And that's the problem. And that's
a huge problem because the American people have, at least
in the past, believed that the media would step in
and ask hard questions of everyone. And as the years
have gone by, and I spent nearly forty years in journalism,
(16:08):
I watched the media get softer and softer on democrats
and leftists, and harder and harder on anyone who is
in the center or on the right, and so barring
any of that, and barring having a no holds barred
kind of debate or two or three, we are not
going to know. We're going to be given dribble by dribble,
(16:30):
as you pointed out, little revelations from her camp, people
who are supposedly her advisors or who are stocking horses
for her, or who are you talking heads who you know,
pretend to know what's going on in the inside. But
they will just let things out in dribs and drabs
(16:51):
and leave it up to us to paste it all together.
But they will never they will never say what the
actual agenda is, and that is to collect all of
these things together and basically put the uh US government
in charge of everything in the economy. And pretty soon,
you know, if if Kamala Harris is elected, the US
(17:16):
will in essence become a socialist state because of the
pervasive controls over over everything, and it includes regulatory controls
over people's personal lives, what they can cook on, what
appliances they can use. I mean, there are all sorts
of things that are involved in this, and nobody is
(17:38):
putting it all together and saying this is actually an
attempt to do a quiet subversion of the entire system
and replace it with something they're going to call progressive democracy,
but is actually going to be socialism.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Scary thought, Jerry, thanks for leaving on that high note. Y,
thank you to.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Believe everybody laughing.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
All right, Terry, thank you. Terry Jones, editor at Issues
and Insights, need straight. I mean, you know, Terry indicates
her her idea of governance is even scarier than that
of Joe Biden's. And that's right.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
And with the least amount of vetting ever for a
presidential candidate of a major party, because it's zero, there's
no votes cast, there's no there's no vetting that has
ever happened, and no one's looking to make it happen.
And that's that's that's new new on the landscape.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
All right, We've got a lot to get to on
the Monday afternoon edition of the Rod and Greg Show
right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine
kN rs.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
We're back with the Rotten Greg Show here on Talk
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Speaker 2 (18:41):
Very good. You know, I don't know about you. I
haven't seen any big bump for Kamala since the convention. Now,
there was the story over the weekend and I just
saw the headline that she was up by seven points,
which I'm sorry I don't believe. But looking around the things,
I don't see a big bump for Kamala since the convention, do.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
You No, it's because it doesn't exist. I've looked everywhere
I've been watching this, it doesn't. And even whatever we're
seeing by way of polls and even the betting market,
betting markets might be reflecting the news of the last
late last week, which RFK Junior endorsing Trump, but betting
markets even Nate Silver saying, are your most dependable bell
weather right now, and there isn't a bump right now.
(19:19):
Nationally they've got the better betters are fifty percent Trump,
forty nine percent Harris. And that's after the Democrat National Committee.
He's up in Georgia, he's up in Arizona, he's up
in Nevada, he's up in Pennsylvania, down in Wisconsin, down
in Michigan. On the betting lines, on the betting lines.
So that that doesn't that doesn't amount to the kind
of bump that a that a traditional candidate gets after
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their party's convention. And it certainly doesn't look anywhere close
to the bump she got when Biden dropped out which
was I would say more of a everyone's excited.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
He's out of here than it was excited about Harris
Well joining us on our newsmak a line to talk
more about this. Is this still Donald Trump's race to lose?
This is Eric Lendrum. He is an contributor at American
great Nance. Eric, how are you welcome to The Rodden
Gregg Show. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Eric, I'm doing great today. Thank you guys so much
for having me on.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I know, Eric, You've done a two part pte on
the piece on this taking a look at this race.
What is your assessment right now? Is this in fact
Donald Trump's race to lose? In your opinion?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Well, as you guys said earlier, any media hype we're
hearing around Kamala Harris is just that it's media hype.
You know, a few poles they come out here and
there with really bad sample sizes, or maybe a few
poles that were connected two or three weeks ago that
they suddenly decided to release today to say, oh, look,
she's still ahead. But at the end of all of
the media, that's all just the noise. As Steve Bannon
would say, the fundamentals in this race are still strongly
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in favor of President Trump. And first off, you just
look at the electoral map right now, right now, at
the minimum, Trump has two hundred and thirty five electoral
votes to Kamala's two twenty six. That's not factoring in
the sixth swing states ssconsin Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada.
I want to take this moment first off to say,
as I said my piece, we need to dispense this notion,
(21:07):
dispel this fiction that Georgia is still a swing state.
Georgia is solidly in President Trump's column for a number
of reasons. I mean, number one, remember do you guys
remember that law, that election integrity law and Georgia that
was passed that the Democrats swore up and drowned. It's
jim quote two point zero. Yeah, I'll try to boyd
bought it. They sue to get it overturned, It was
(21:28):
upheld in court, and then what happened. It was put
to the test in the twenty twenty two midterms, and yeah,
herschel Walker lost the Senate race, but that was the exception,
not the rule. All the other statewide candidates won by
bigger margins across the board, Governor and otherwise than they
did in twenty eighteen. The state is and especially her now,
of course, because people talk about all the feud between
President Trump and Governor Kemp, the two have made up.
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There was a story that Breitbart did a while ago
saying that Governor Kemp privately told Senator Lindsay Graham and
a few others that he plans to put his entire
political machine behind getting President Trump reelected. So between those
irrefutable numbers, we can put Georgia and President Trump's column
that puts them at a minimum of two hundred and
fifty one electoral votes. That's just nineteen away from the
(22:12):
two seventy threshold right there. At that point, he only
needs to win just a couple of those other remaining
swing states, the biggest one, of course, being Pennsylvania. If
he flips Pennsylvania along with Georgia bought a bang bought
a bang Bata boom electoral votes right there, he doesn't
need anything else. So the fact of the matter is
that Kamala's pass to two seventy is much narrower than
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President Trump's.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
So one of the things that you point out, and
I think it's critical for our listeners to appreciate you
look at crosstabs, meaning they do in these polls show
who it is that they're asking these questions of who
they're going to vote. These are pulse. These cross tabs
show that they are representing of the pool of people
that they ask questions identify Democrats plus ten plus twelve
(22:58):
and some of these polls and the assumption there is
that they think that Democrats are going to turn out
at ten twelve percent more than Republicans. And even then
after they do that, they can't get those numbers outside
of the margin of air. Is that right?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Exactly? This is something that they have been doing for
a while now. They did this in twenty sixteen, and
they did it in twenty twenty, and they're doing it
again now. The sample sizes are just completely wrong. So,
as you mentioned, yeah, those are pieces. Those are two
poles that I mentioned in my second piece. The first
is a national poll by the Economists and you gov,
which ultimately showed a Kamala with forty six percent, President
Trump at forty four percent, and RFK with three percent. Now,
(23:36):
first off, that right, there is a Trump victory if
she's only leading him by about two points in the
popular vote nationally, that is still an electoral college victory.
You know, Trump lost the popular vote in twenty sixteen
by about two and a half again Tillary. Clinton still
won the electoral college. But the crosshabs of this poll
shows that the sample size was D plus ten. That
is obviously not at all accurate as to the political
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makeup the party registration of this country. So if you
correct it for what the national makeup is, which is
probably somewhere closer maybe D plus four p plus five nationally,
that's a clear President Trump victory in the popular vote.
Another example is a statewide pole of Texas by the
left wing activist group Active Vote, which showed Trump with
a six point ly over Kamala in Texas fifty three
(24:19):
to forty seven. Now, of course they may think, oh,
it's only a single digital lead in Texas. This is acep.
The sample size was D plus twelve and which is
obviously not accurate if you correct it for what Texas
actually is and consider that if it's D plus twelve
and he's beating her still by six points, then a
(24:39):
correct sample size would have him taking the state by
double digits. By the same margins by which Greg Abbott
won reelection. So when you factor in these incorrect sample sizes,
it's clear they are just juicing up the polls in
any way they can to try to make it look
like it's a close race.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Eric, Have you delved into voter turnout, because there's no
doubt that with this being a close election, which I
think a lot of people believe it will be, the
get out the vote effort is going to be extremely important.
What are you hearing about that? Not so much from
the Democratic side, but is there a renewed effort now
on the Republican side to finally get out the vote.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
That is absolutely something that is being done, and it
is so important that this is done because, of course,
in twenty twenty, they weaponized the COVID era voter fraud practices,
they did ballot harvesting, they use ballot drop boxes, third
party ballot harvesting.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
What have you.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
And Republicans just didn't do that in twenty twenty. The
talking point always was, you know, just come out and
vote on election day, vote at the police station, vote
on a paper ballot, and the election day, you know,
votes will override all that early voting that obviously did
not happen. Now this time around, we are seeing efforts
towards that by mostly outside groups, and a big champion
(25:52):
of this is Charlie Kirk, you know Turning Point USA,
Turning Point Action, their five point one C four branch.
They have been working over time to register more voters
that they then hope to turn out to vote in November.
One big one is Arizona, where Attorney Point is headquarters.
They now have Republicans now register over two hundred and
forty two thousand more voters than registered Democrats in the
(26:14):
state of Arizona, and they flipped Yuma County from plurality
Democrats a plurality Republican. So if you turn out even
just half of that margin, you know, half of that
two hundred and two bout the margin, that's an easy
victory in Arizona.
Speaker 9 (26:25):
Right there.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
You have others like Scott Prestler, who's doing great work
in Pennsylvania especially, but other swing states trying to register
people to then get them to turn out to vote
if we because this is one point I always bring
up with twenty twenty, President Trump was completely outmatched. The
Republicans were outmatched by the voter fraud machine. You had
Zuckerberg spending three hundred million dollars, You had Soro spending
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all of his money the ballot harvesting that everything. Republicans
had none of that going for them. They were outspent
by conventional campaign means, and yet at the end of
it all, guys, they still only barely stole it. Trump's
will only barely quote to vote lawns by ten thousand
votes in Wisconsin, eleven in Arizona, eleven thousand in Georgia.
(27:08):
And that was just that just shows how powerful the natural,
organic grassroots space was for President Trump in twenty twenty
when people weren't necessarily happy with, you know, his handling
the race riots or the COVID lockdowns will have you.
So this time around, with all those efforts by outside groups,
if we even do just maybe five percent of their
one hundred percent your voter turnout machine, we should easily
(27:29):
beat them this time.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
All right, Eric is always great chatting with your great
work on this man. Appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Thank you so much, Eric, thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
All right. That's Eric Lyntram. He is with American Great
Nows saying this is still Donald Trump's race to lose,
and you look at the electoral map. I mean, he's there.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I'm going to talk about this. Whould come back. I'm
not finished. I know we had to finish the interview.
We got to got a break, but I got things.
There's points to be made about this. Eric's Eric. I'm
picking up with Eric's putting down, and there's some important
points to share with listeners about this.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I swear, boy, the forecast week looks fantastic. I know
what are we doing here? We should be calling you.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
See what I'm wearing. It was fifty It was like
in the fifties. This morning it was it was chili.
It was he's got a little sweater a chili. I
wouldn't played pickle bawl with it in a short sleeved
shirt for crimeo in doors shirt indoors.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
No, it was outdoors. When it was a little sweater,
you look so sweater.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
It's a hoodie.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
You look so cute. All right, you have apparently had
a revelation. I get these you want to share with us.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
They came in real time. I get the ladies, gentlemen,
I get these epiphanies, and they just hit me. And
while We were speaking with Eric Lendram about this very
issue about her pivoting and trying to be something she's not.
It all clicks.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I didn't see a light come into the room, but
apparently one did.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
It hit my head, and I am telling you I
see it. This might not surprise you, because you are
the smartest listening audience and all the land. But I
get it now. This is the This is the issue.
It's not a strategy of convenience that she doesn't have
to ever really express a policy position to win this race,
being inserted at the last minute, never having this state
(29:09):
of position in a primary or anywhere else. The reality
is they're losing in any stated position, especially if she
were to say in Pennsylvania, I'm now for fracking, which
she wants to win Pennsylvania, and conventional wisdom says, change
your position from being anti fracking to being for fracking.
(29:30):
It's gonna help you win Pennsylvania, but it'll offend that base. Okay,
she has no wiggle room. How do I know this? Well,
two of the smartest guys who see polls that we've
never seen. The public will never be privy to that.
At least Eric is pointing to the ones that they
do show us have a little bit of a thumb
on the scale. The polls that David Axelrodters has seen
(29:53):
and the polls that James Carvel have seen are leaving
them both independent of each other. On national news to
say to Democrats, stop thinking this race is won. Stop
believing that we're ahead by some large margin. Trump under
poles and if these numbers hold, he will he will win.
They're saying that because they're seeing polls that show he's
going to win. He had seven the highest voter account
(30:15):
ever for a presidential candidate, with sixty million. Until twenty twenty,
President Trump got seventy four million votes when, as pointed out,
they were outspent out, hustled out every out, strategized everything.
Seventy four million came out for Trump. She is not
making Kamala Harris is not going to make a single
policy statement for fear that anyone she offends deepens that
(30:37):
hole she's in. She is not winning this race, and
if she comes out with a strong position, she will
alienate somebody, and she doesn't have a single vote to lose.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
You know, this reminds me, you know the modern you know,
modern cars nowadays, if you drift out of a lane,
some cards will buzz, your steering wheel will shake, there'll
be a light or something goes on. She's in one
of those cars. Now she drifts out of that progressive
of lane that her base wants her to follow, they're gonna,
they're gonna whack her. They're gonna uhuh, don't you go there.
(31:06):
That's why she comes now. She in fact, and this
was pointed out by who was it? Tom Cotton pointed
out that she has never denied that she supports defunding
the police or fracking. She lets her campaign do it.
So they come out and say, well she really you know,
and they people, and they do it, select people, and
they do it usually late on a Friday night.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Positions are almost whispers. Okay, and then and then what
they end up becoming his third party say well, that's
not her, just like the interviewer, Well, that's not her
position anymore, says who. She doesn't have She has no
wiggle room. She cannot take a position on anything because
she cannot afford to lose one single vote.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
No, she can't. All right, when we come back hour
number two of Rod and Greg with you on Utah's
Talk Radio one oh five nine kN R S. We
are going to share with you how Democrats are attracting
voters to Kamala. The game is underway. Any votes, stay
with us, get me done. It's great to be with
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you on this Monday afternoon. I hope everybody had just
a marvelous, marvelous weekend. Did I hear you say earlier?
I hadn't even looked at the numbers today. Are we
under seventy days to go before the election? Yep, I
follow the exact number. But it's understand we're under seventy
now and I think in forty seven days less than that, Greg,
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they'll start early voting in some of these states.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yeah, so that's you know, that's when it ends. That's
not even when you know the voting begins earlier than that.
And I'll tell you what, it's game time. But I
am just absolutely convinced at this point that they are
running as scared as you can get.
Speaker 9 (32:47):
I do.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
I don't think they have. They cannot state a policy
position or they're going to This is a game of addition. Yeah,
there is no addition for the Harris Walls team right now.
They cannot state a position or they're going to lose
support either from their progressive socialist base or from the
independence that are looking for some common sense out here.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Well, six months ago, there was a lot of talk
in Washington and really around the country that maybe as
Joe Biden prepared to run for reelection, he should dump
Kamala Harris. But now all of a sudden she is
their shining star. Joining us on our newsbacker line to
talk about that. It's Scott Pinsker. He is a public
relations and crisis communication expert, joining us on the Rod
(33:27):
and Greg Show. All right, Scott, how did they do it?
How did they remake Kamala Harris from being inn also
ran to now the party's nominee. How'd they do it?
Speaker 9 (33:36):
Scott, Rod and Greg Pleasure to be with you. Yeah,
Kamala Harris, you're looking at one heck of a reclamation project.
You're completely right. She was dead and buried, nobody wanted her,
abysmal rating, worst VP ever. You named the negative pr
around her, and she had it. And then suddenly Joe
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Biden had a bad debate and now Kamala Harris is
Barack Obama, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington all rolled and won
the hell of the transformation.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
So you know, I think, what I think, what you've
what you're on too. And what's happening here is we
are seeing the personification of the generic Democrat candidate on
the ballot, the generic where you say, do you want
the Republican Donald Trump or do you want the generic
and you don't name who they are. She I've just
said in this last segment, I don't think she can
afford to have a policy position anywhere because I think
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her her numbers are so tentative. And do you agree?
I mean, is this why we have this new found
reclamation project where she says nothing means nothing, but just
wants a lot of joy and walls, wants to go
to the hardware store and eat macaroni and cheese. Is
that what we've Is that what we're we resorted to.
Speaker 9 (34:46):
I'd even go further than that. I think if anything
you understated what happened would get in the way taking
a firm position on Israel, where Hamas would divide the
Demo Rocratic base, and Kamala Harris does not want that
to happen. She wants to be the alternative to Trump.
She doesn't want to be her own entity that would
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lose her votes. So what she's doing from a tactical
point of view is mirroring the elector the electorate. They're
a vast group of people. You've got, you know, men, women, liberal, conservative, YadA, YadA.
And what Kamala Harris wants her end goal is for
when you look at her, you see yourself, no matter
where you are on the ideological rainbow, no matter what
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you might believe, no matter what core beliefs you might have,
the advantage of not having a core belief is that
you can kind of modify who you are and morph
into the dream candidate that other people are looking for.
And right now, if you look at the DMC and
the verbiage that they used, they went out of their
way to try to solidify this connection to the American
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people based not on what you believe they are or
what you think they're going to do, but who they
are in the the Kamala Harris, she she's one of
us guys. She is the average girl down the three.
She works hard, She played by the rules, have nothing
to do with Willie Brown or any kind of inappropriate
relationship thoughse just by her merit. She worked hard, and
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by golly, we're lucky to have her.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Scott Greg and I had a real debate on this
on Friday Show because we were talking about feelings versus facts,
and my argument is that the feelings could in fact
carry Kamala Harris to the White House. Greg disagreed and said, no,
it's got to be about the facts. Could feelings carry
her to the White House? People see her smiling, there's joy,
They're all happy about what's going on. Could feelings carry
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her to the White House?
Speaker 9 (36:42):
Well, I have a conservative colleague by the name of
Ben Shapiro. Yeah, facts don't care about your feelings. However,
from a PR point of view, he is exactly wrong.
Feelings don't care about your facts. The heart wants what
the heart wants. And I'm not on Ben. I know
he was talking about an objective reality, and your interpretation
(37:04):
of reality should not supplant the actual truth. But from
a PR point of view, we make emotional decisions. We're
not rational actors. We never have been, and it's not
coincidental that every great marketing campaign of the past fifty
years have all been predicated on an emotional connection. We're
not trying to bombard you with facts to get you
to buy that Forward or Chevy. They're hitting you with
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how good you feel, how wonderful would be behind the wheel,
how everyone would envy you. It's an emotional connection, and
that's what the Democrats have been historically much better than
Republicans and cultivating.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Okay, Scott, so I want to test that. I just
want to test it because I agree right, You're right,
I agree with you. But in nineteen ninety two, James
Carvill the Rage and Cajun I think he went for
emotion by saying it's the economy. Stupid to Herbert walker Bush.
He was taking an economic issue, a kitchen table issue,
(37:57):
and emotionally turning it on then income and President Herbert
Walker Bush by saying it's the economy and he doesn't
understand that, he doesn't get it. Is there an emotional
appeal to the kitchen table issues that Americans are confronting
right now?
Speaker 9 (38:11):
There's a potential emotional appeal to everything. The question is
how do you develop it? And can you make a
logical connection from where you are and where the audience
is and kind of hold it by the hand and
take them where you want to be. Potentially you name
the issue. It could be completely dry, to be boring.
There are a lot of boring products out there too,
(38:31):
But with a clever marketing campaign, you can definitely forage
an emotional connection. And that's really the ultimate test of
a good politician. Can you make people care about things
that they wouldn't ordinarily care about.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
It seems like they're a competition. Isn't hard because the
other side's just saying joy. It's a three letter word, joy.
That's it. That's all you have to fight is joy.
Joy is all they say. It has to be low
hanging fruit to say it's the economy.
Speaker 9 (38:57):
I don't know about you, but I don't want to
be antique joy. That's not the vision to hold. If
you look how the Democrats fed it up. They began
by calling the other people weird. Right, Donald Trump was weird.
Jd Vance what a weirdo.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (39:13):
They're trying to create a contrast between them and their
opposition in the in the mind of the American people.
Not unlike the Apple campaign on PC I'm a back.
Do you remember that campaign where they ran commercially about
twenty years ago? But it worked really well.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (39:30):
They had a a kind of dumpy looking guy in
an uncomfortable business suit, uh, being the being the PC,
and they had the cool hit guy that you want
to be probably got all the women being the Apple
being the MAC. And when you give people a binary option,
you don't have to be great. You don't have to
be the best. You don't have to have every policy
position nailed down. You only have to be better than
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the alternative.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Final question for you, Scott, how long is it going
to be before Toto gets loose from Dorothy and runs
behind the curtain and pulls the curtain back on the
man behind the curtain? I mean, how long can she
hold on to that?
Speaker 9 (40:06):
Unfortunately, it might be after November for the curtain to
be pulled. We have abbreviated playing field right now, with
the weirdness of Joe Biden dropping out when he did
and Kamala Harris not having to go through a primary
to answering questions and debating other people, it's very possible,
depending on what Trump does or does not do, where
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Harris can continue this kind of this booky theater all
the way through November and by the time the American
people figure out that maybe there's more going on than
happy happy, Joy, Joy, It'll be too late.
Speaker 10 (40:43):
Oh God, that might not be feedback for you.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
If the joy just contradicts your actual circumstances. I just
would hope that someone could take, you know, some inventory
of that.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
I hear you, though, Scott, I hear you.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
It makes sense, all right, Scott, please, yeah, right, thanks
for your time, Scott. I appreciate you being on the
show today.
Speaker 9 (41:09):
My pleasure.
Speaker 8 (41:10):
All right.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
That's Scott Pinsker. He is a public relations and crisis
communications expert. My gut is telling me, and I know
you totally disagree with me, but I think feelings may
carry her to the White House.
Speaker 11 (41:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Yeah, And I think I run into people out there
who fear the same thing that I fear.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Well, I'm going to tell you this, if it's a
game of addition and she can't make she can't state
a policy position for fear that she'd lose a single vote.
Right now, you have Tulsey Gabbert, who just endorsed President Trump.
These are Democrats that ran in twenty twenty These are
people that are TULSI did RFK when he started the
year of twenty twenty four. The last thing on his
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mind was he would ever be on a stage with
Donald Trump. So I think you're seeing some coalitions come
together that are afraid of this leftist driving us off
a cliff, are just genuinely concerned about this country. I
think that sentiment can carry the day.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
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Speaker 3 (42:25):
You will. Now, look, we've been talking in our interview
with Scott Prince grew As we've been discussing, you know,
this whole idea that they can literally just say joy
and they can tell you no matter how you're feeling,
no matter what your finances look like, no matter how
you are today versus when Donald Trump was president, there's
nothing but joy going on out here and at that
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if presented with enough political pageantry, that that can actually
carry the day. Now, look, maybe that's true, but I
think there's a lot of emotion attached to these issues
that people are feeling every day. And what I love
Rod are the rare moments, and they are rare when
someone that is a lefty and has been you know,
I've always considered him like a Bill Maher. He doesn't
(43:10):
get the Democrat you know, authoritarianism talking points.
Speaker 11 (43:14):
He doesn't.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
In fact, it bothers him and he finds himself speaking
four and on behalf of Conservatis, who really doesn't like.
But he's like, my goodness, are you kidding me? This
is actually insulting, how bad this is getting? So in
that vein, there's a clip where he actually does Caitlyn
Jennings from CNN. He calls her out on his show
this last Friday. Yeah you want to play it, Let's
(43:37):
have a listen.
Speaker 12 (43:38):
Talking about the people on CNN and what I know
what the conservative side of America thinks, and I don't
blame them. I watched Carmalis Beach last night. It ended
at eight o nine, I guess eleven or nine in
the East. It wasn't until eleven twenty three till the Conserva.
The one conservative guy, what's his name, Scot En This
(44:00):
lonely Scott. I call him David there too wait a second,
Wait a second. I watched it from eight o nine
to twenty three. They were just gushing about how great
a speech it was, and I think she did fine.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
I think it was as good as they were making.
Speaker 12 (44:13):
It out to be. But if I'm a conservative in
America and I'm watching CNN just for the straight middle
of the road, that's what I hear for fifteen minutes
is it's great and then lonely Scott, it does look
I mean, and when you see the pathet, it does
look like token ism. It's kind of like the same
as the view. It's like it's almost better to have
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nobody there like MSNBC.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Then what I tell you why he is spot on.
You know Scott Jennings, who I think does a really
good job on c Yes, he's provided some great, great
information during the Democratic National Convention. But he's a token conservative.
That's what he is on CNN. And you could probably
(44:57):
argue that Fox News has its token Democrats as.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Well, even if they do what he's trying. A couple
of things that he said, Bill Maher, I love that
he's calling her out, and her answer is doesn't get
any better. She just says no, no, no, we're fair, We're
all fair, and she just doesn't even want to consider
the premise. But even his audience, okay, which is not
going to be a conservative audio No, definitely applauds and
laughs at what he's at, the observations he's being because
(45:20):
he's right. But I don't think that it's even conservatives
that are watching CNN, if they ever did, and thinking,
you got to be kidding me. It's common people with
common sense and the idea that that CNN is supposed
to be middle of the road where MSNBC doesn't even try.
I there's not a whole lot of daylight in my
mind between CNN and MSNBC.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Well where was it? Just a couple of weeks ago,
and maybe it was Caitlin Harris, I'm not sure who
was on with Stephen Colbert. Remember remember he said on
his show, Yeah, it's CNN unbiased, they're very factual and
they're reporting. The audience laughed at that, and she said,
is that a punchline? Yes, I mean the public knows.
You've got two very liberal role cable news channels in
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this country, MSNBC and CNN, and then you've got the
legacy media with ABC CBS and NBC, right, and then
you've got the Washington Post, New York Times. If they
honestly believe that Americans don't believe they're pious, boy, I
want to know what they're smoking, because I'd like to have.
Speaker 11 (46:19):
Some of them.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Yeah, and they do. They try with a straight pace
to argue that they are just calling yes, but it
is a joke. I mean, you can even go back.
We started the show with this, but this three year
anniversary is not a small one.
Speaker 5 (46:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
You see those pictures of the helicopter leaving in Vietnam,
you know, with sigone or whatever. It was like a
symbol of our failure in Vietnam and America's might that
wasn't back during that time. This Afghanistan withdrawal was such
an immense failure, and it was right at the beginning
of Biden's administration, which never got better. And uh, and
(46:54):
it is it is a time that we should be
looking back at three years from now this anniversary and
feel nothing minimally embarrassment, but it should be somber. You
don't have a single member of the media, You don't
have any of these regime media covering it in the
tone and the seriousness that it is. You you don't
have any mention, or if you do, you have Trump's
trying to use this to attack Kamala Harris as if
(47:17):
it's a it's a ploy, nothing more than a ploy.
No people died. I mean you have Biden who said
not a single soldier, a service member ever died on
his watch. I mean, that's how little he remembers or
cares about that incident. It's now three years old, but
that is that's That's the same thing that Kennedy I
think brought up when he said in his big announcement
(47:37):
that it's like the Putin state media here. That's what
you guys say.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Yeah, Well, and we're gonna we're gonna hear from Robert F.
Kennedy Jr. Had some very interesting things to say on
the Sunday talk shows. Tomorrow Plus is interesting tonight. Here
we have Kamala saying, you know those debate rules I
agreed to a few months ago, the ones that you
set up with Joe Biden, I kind of like them
changed now. Of course you wants she is running. They
are running out the clock. Greg. They are going as
(48:03):
fast as they can to protect her, and they don't
have to talk about policy because there may not be
enough time left. And they're perfectly happy with that.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
That's what they're hoping.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
That's what they're hoping. All Right, More of the Rodden
Greg Show coming up right here on Utah's Talk Radio
one O five to nine KNRS The.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Rod and Greg Show with your hosts Citizen Hughes.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
And Rod Urquette here on Utah's Talk Radio one O
five nine, Kay and our ass of course, one of
the developing stories today, Greg. We mentioned this before the break,
is Kamala all of a sudden wants to change the
rules on the upcoming debate with former President Trump.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
It's ABC. It was all you know, granted he negotiate
this when Biden was the one that he was going
to debate. But you can't look at ABC and look
at the rules. And he's been on CNN. Now he's
going to go on ABC. She refuses to go on
Fox News channel for any kind of debate. They have
already put their thumbs squarely on this scale. Yeah, and
now she has more issues. Now she has more problems
(48:59):
with the rules, wanting to put even more of the
weight and the favoritism on her side. And it does
get a bit much. If I'm Trump, I'm going you
know what, it's already far needed. Yeah, I mean I
want we all want him to debate because it is
her glaring, uh you know, fault that she doesn't have
a thought that she can actually articulate without fear of losing.
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But how much of this do they want to how much?
How much of this can be gamed up? I mean,
there has to be a limit she will.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Do as much as they're trying to run out the
clock here. They don't want the American people to know
who the real Kamala Harris is. So a couple of
weeks ago, you know, he wanted to change a few
things in the debate rules, or he wanted to add
more and she said, well, we've got a debate that
no need to change anything. Two weeks later, she's now
saying I want to change something. It just it shows
how far they are going greg in my opinion, to
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protect Kamala Harris. They will do anything.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
And what they can say is if if Trump says
enough is enough, and they'll say he's afraid to debate,
I'd love for him to say, well, okay, whatever these
rules are mirror them and then agreed to a second
debate on Fox News. And when she says no to that,
which she would she does not want two debates, then
the onus is back on her that she doesn't want
a debate. So I but I'll tell you what, take
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all this frustration that you're feeling, and take absolute strength
in the fact that Robert F. Kennedy Junior, with whatever
percentage he has of support in the country and even
in the in these swing states, and he has put
it's like a team of rivals. He's put his concern
about the safety of our children, our our health, our food,
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this country. How they have stifled the Democrats have stifled
him just as bad, worse than debates. He couldn't even
run against the guy he knew couldn't do the job
and hasn't been able to do the job and got removed.
He is now with fun, He's now on the same
stage with Trump, and he had so much to say
this Sunday with Shannon Briem on Fox News Sunday. It
was it was it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
All right now before we get to that, I do
want to play with it. The Trump campaign, right, the
Trump campaign has put out A new ad is showing
Kamala Harris debate. Is Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
This might be the only debate we ever heard.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
This might be the id, but here it is new
Trump ads showing Kamala debating Kamala.
Speaker 13 (51:16):
Everyday prices are too high, food, rent, gas, back to
school clothes. That is calmed Bidenomics. A low bread cost
fifty percent more today, round beef is up almost fifty percent.
There's not much left at the end of the month.
By nomics is working. The price of housing has gone up.
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It feels so hard to just be able to get ahead,
and we are very proud about it. Everyday prices are
too high.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
I just love that. That is Kamala debating Kamala over Bidenomics. Yeh,
because remember she's on the clock. She's been on the
clock this whole time. Oh, she didn't have anything to
do with this.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
Can't come If she's going to complain about grocery prices
and rent or more gage or the cost of gas
filling up your tank, it's Bidenomics, and it's and she
has heralded and supported and promoted biden nomics. Yeah she is.
She is debating herself on both sides of this issue.
Speaker 11 (52:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
Well, earlier in the show today, Greg read this post
by was it who am I thinking of? Tammy Bruce?
Is that corrector? Miranda Devine on Bruce Tammy Bruce about
Robert F. Kennedy how his family has just torn into
him now, treated him like, well, you know what because
(52:35):
of his endorsement of Donald Trump. Well, Robert F. Kennedy
Junior was on the talk shows this weekend, Greg, and
he talks a lot of some things that are very
important to him, and he hopes the president, former President Trump,
if he becomes president again, will address these issues.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
And before I play it, let me just preface it
with this. We know that that we want every I
think every common sense voter is going to hear the
things that Robert F. Kennedy is about to say, and
they're going to say, yeah, that makes a lot a sense,
you know. But I think these suburban moms, Okay, this
is an area where I think he can reach some
of the demographics that people think independent suburban moms who
(53:10):
might not like Trump. Man. When you're talking about our
kids and their health, you're talking about something pretty serious.
And I think that Robert F. Kenny Junior's message on
this is a spot on and b ken have a
big impact in this coming election, especially with our moms
and their kids. Let's let's let's start it right now.
Speaker 14 (53:30):
We have these agencies that have become sog puppets for
the industries. They're slows to regulate. Oh, they're not really
interested in public health. Everybody. The most profitable thing today
in America is a sick child. Everybody is making money.
The hospitals are making money, the pharmaceutical companies are making money,
even the insurance companies make money. And we need to
(53:53):
end those properson satives. We need to get the corruption
out of FDA, out of NIAH, out of CDC, make
them function as they're supposed to function, which is to
protect public health and particularly children's health.
Speaker 11 (54:06):
Is it fair?
Speaker 2 (54:06):
That is frightening for him to say the most profitable
item that we have in this country today is a
sick child. It is because everybody makes money off a
sick child.
Speaker 3 (54:17):
And he's right, And he doesn't have a better description
for the FDA and the NIH and all of them
than the back puppets, sock puppets. They're regulators who get
revenue from those they're supposed to regulate. I mean, come on,
that is a perverse incentive. He's one hundred percent right.
And if you look at rates of autism amongst boys
in this country, if you look at the at sick children,
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it is happening in the United States at a far
greater rate than anywhere else in the world. And the
fundamental question is why. And I think R. F. Kennedy
Junior is hitting on the reason why. It is profit
it is it is people. It's perverse incentives that make
more profits at the expense of kids and Americans in general.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Yeah, but Greg, let me ask you this, how do
you get that word out? See, I mean, I mean,
we've got less than seventy days.
Speaker 15 (55:04):
Now.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Look, I got to get that.
Speaker 3 (55:07):
There are seventy four million people that voted for Donald J.
Trump in twenty twenty. And I don't think they're going
for Harris this time around, okay. And I don't think
that they're shrugging their shoulders saying I don't think times
are tough enough that I should vote again. I think
he's got seventy four million votes counted today. Okay, that's
fourteen million more than any presidential candidate has ever received.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
Prior.
Speaker 3 (55:27):
Okay, and then you add on top of that, I
think that Robert F. Kennedy Junior has uniquely been able
to reach young people through social media. He has his
campaign has not been on the old school camelot we
love the Kennedy family, cut from that cloth. It has
been young people that his message has really resonated with.
You add those numbers to the seventy four million that
(55:48):
have already voted for Trump, They're going to come back
and do it again. And that's the kind of math
you need to win to win a presidential race. And
that's why I love this coalition and I love Robert F. Kennedy.
You know, he's not going to agree with Trump on everything.
It is a team of rivals, but he cares about
this country more than this totalitarian Democrat party he says
it's turned into.
Speaker 2 (56:09):
Is there still a shy Trump voter out there?
Speaker 3 (56:11):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (56:11):
Yeah, I think there still is out there. I mean
what we mean by the shy Trump voter is And
we talked about this what back in twenty sixteen because
everyone thought Hillary was going to win, but a lot
of you I remember a guy telling me, Rod, look
out there are closet or shy Trump voters out there.
They won't publicly express who they're supporting, but they're going
to get in that voting booth and they're going to
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vote for Donald Trump. And that's exactly what happened. The
question is, now, in twenty twenty four, are there still
shy Trump voters out there who are going to show
up on election day and make a change?
Speaker 3 (56:44):
I say yes for two reasons. One, I don't know
that the social stigma is as severe today. I would
certainly agree, So I don't know that. So back in
twenty sixteen and even twenty twenty, there was such a
severe social stigma with supporting Trump that that was really
fueling this show Trump vote. But there is still a stigma.
And then you add to it what's happened in the
(57:04):
last four years, and that's in this Biden Harris administration.
If you're if you support Trump, well we've seen it
in print from the Attorney General and the dj you
could be a potential domestic terrorist. There's actually a scary
weaponization of the Department of Justice where if you do
support Trump loudly, proudly, you're being characterized as a potential
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domestic terrorists. There's a lot of people that just want
to live their lives. They don't need to get into
that drama. They don't want to be caught in the
mix of that kind of of perception or even the
efforts of the dj SO. I think that the weaponization
of our our our law enforcement, federal law enforcement, and
that the remaining social stigma creates that quiet or shy
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Trump vote that will underpoll and will overperform when it
comes time to vote.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
You don't know how much I hold to hold myself back.
On Saturday shopping with my wife. I won't say where,
but here we're two women wearing Kamala twenty four T shirts.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
Geez.
Speaker 2 (58:04):
I almost wanted to go up and say, are you
not say?
Speaker 3 (58:07):
Okay, what do you love?
Speaker 8 (58:08):
Tell me?
Speaker 3 (58:10):
Three issues? One issue?
Speaker 2 (58:11):
I held myself back. I held myself back, all right?
More Coming up, Rod and Greg with you on Utah's
Talk Radio one oh five nine. Knrs Rod and Greg
Show on Utah's Talk Radio one old nine one oh
five nine can arrests. How do I forget that it's Monday,
It's month. That's my first mistake today?
Speaker 3 (58:28):
Well, I just accidentally hit our listeners don't know, but
I got powers over here.
Speaker 2 (58:33):
You've never had before, which is really frightening.
Speaker 3 (58:36):
You have the NASA like board in front of you. Yes,
and when I'm guest hosting that that thing is just
gret Gremlins in it. It's just terrible. It's a horrible experience.
It freaks me a lot on my mind. But over here,
I just got all my I got, I got laptop up,
I gets and then I get all my show notes
and I just but now my my laptop is connected
and I can play clips. Yeah, and so I am
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very powerful.
Speaker 2 (58:58):
You know you've taken over some of my works, by.
Speaker 3 (59:02):
I have no work anymore. Well, it does kind of
spread spread, Yeah, do you want the other studio for
spaces folks? I want you to know how much we care.
I put so many articles on this table and we
won't get to even half of them. But they're here.
They're like arrows in the quiver because it's all happening
in real time.
Speaker 2 (59:22):
A couple of years ago, Rush Limbaugh and we all
miss Rush today talked about Donald Trump and said Donald
Trump will go away someday, but you never will. Talked
about the Trump movement. You are what make Donald Trump
go It's you they can get rid of Trump, but
the movement is going to be still be there because
you believe in America. And that's what Donald Trump leaves in.
(59:43):
Greg Guttfeld at Fox News the other day, I think
it was on Friday show, talked about the difference between
Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, and I think he's pretty
spot on on this one. Listen, because he is.
Speaker 16 (59:54):
There's not that phony engagement of the establishment politician where
they say exactly enough, it's need and it's tidy, and
it's almost impossible to remember what they said after they
said it. Politicians are trained to say nothing, you know,
and he can't do that. He never got that training.
So I think when you're watching vintage Trump, you have
(01:00:15):
to realize that this is how he's going to be
in meetings with people who aren't friendly to the United
States or people who want something from America, and we
demand scrutiny and reciprocity. So just replace the media with
all those people. He's not a figurehead. So if you're
looking at it and go, I can't stand. He's not
a figurehead. He's an agent. He's your agent. He's America's lawyer.
(01:00:40):
He's in the room there to represent his client America,
your needs and your concerns. He's supposed to be an asshole.
You know, he's not interested in impressing the other people
in the room. I want an agent or a lawyer
with that relentless energy that makes people upset, and the
country needs that. I've got four years of perk hungry
(01:01:02):
elites who were there for the pomp and not for
the people. So it's kind of you have to look
at this stuff as a necessity that this guy is
going to be that way in a room with people
that have been screwing us over forever. Do you want
him or do you want Kamala? Who do you want
in that room? You want the guy that nobody likes
(01:01:26):
because they don't.
Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
Like him for a reason.
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
I think guph Fell was fun on you know the
room that he was in, Greg that nobody liked him
in that room.
Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Nato Washington was seele.
Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Around the whole town. He was in that room, and
he was one of the cool kids and talked about
all how nice you are. He just shout straight with him.
They all hated him, and and that's why I loved it.
I said, you know, when he was first selected, I said, Donald,
go be a bull in a china shop, and I
hope he is again.
Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Yeah, and I'm telling you he was. And in the
as he did things that I'm telling you that we would.
He had state lawmakers, Speakers of the House from all
these states, come to the White House compounds, go to
the old Executive Office building, get to meet EPA and Army,
a corps of engineer, the heads, agency heads, and have
their phone numbers and contact information. No presidents done that before.
(01:02:18):
God gets no credit.
Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
For it, no credit whatsoever. All Right, we're rolling into
our number three of the Rod and Greg Show here
on Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine. Can r
s a couple of lawmakers proposing some changes to the
use of cell phones in our schools.
Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
Back to school time. You want to hear this interview.
Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Gary, get your reaction to it coming out. Stay with
us on the Rod and Greg Show. All right, Welcome
back Howard, number three of the Rod and Greg Show
here on Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine k
n rs Rod ourkeuet along with Citizen Hughes. All right, now,
try to imagine this if you possibly can. But there
is actually a columnist at the Washington Post who claims
(01:02:57):
that the wife of Kamala Harris Doug m Off is
a sex symbol.
Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
You know, Rod, people don't drive with barf bags in
the car, saying that because people are just like they're
gagging right now, someone just barf the winch. That guy
is no more a sex symbol than then.
Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Well she claims, she claims he is. He's a modern man,
and that makes him a sex sex symbol.
Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Yeah no, you know what, let me tell you something
modern man that means, that's that's code for a feminine Okay,
that's like, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Touch with his feeling, low te touch with his field.
Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Yeah, he's a low testosterone that's what that's supposed to mean.
But I don't think the guy's low t because you know,
he saw his nanny and you know he had a
little carnal knowledge if you know what I mean, and
got divorced over up. So that doesn't sound like someone
that has a lot of low team.
Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
He's a sexy man. According to Catherine Rerymple at the
Washington Post.
Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Man, like I said, the generic ballot is sexy to them,
the generic Democrat ballot. It could have just say not Trump.
That is sexy. That's a sex and the generic Democrat ballot.
Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
It's terrible, crazy, all right, Well, the kids are back
in school. Yes, you're walking at me like what, Yeah,
they've been making now you don't have kids in school anymore.
Neither do I. I have grandchildren in school. They're all
back in school now. So kind of interesting. But there
is a real movement and I've seen stories all over
the country about this greg of schools starting to recognize
(01:04:23):
the dangers of cell phones. I don't know, telling them
you can't have them in class anymore. You can't even
have them in school anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
And times have changed. And I look for this interview
because there was a debate about this and the advantages
of phones and tablets in school for students ten years ago.
We were having a different debate.
Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Yeah, well yeah. A coalition has come together, led by
a couple of Utah lawmakers and joining us on our
Newsmaker line right now, it's send her Lincoln to fillmore.
This is a proposal that would set up some guidelines
for school districts to use or come up with their
phone to ban cell phones in schools and send her
film More is on our Newsmaker line right now, sender,
(01:05:01):
Thank you. I want to read you this story I
saw it today about the cell phone and the damage
it's doing to our children. It says Americans children are
hurting behind in school after the pandemic. Many children are
now struggling with another major barrier to learning, smartphone addiction.
What's your reaction to that, sender?
Speaker 15 (01:05:20):
Yeah, I agree with I totally agree with that, Rod,
and thanks for having me on. That's really why we
made this announcement today. I'm pleased to be on your
show to talk about it with a wider audience. You know,
cell phones are really a disruption in the learning environment,
and they're a disruption and a hindrance to students' mental
health and social health.
Speaker 10 (01:05:41):
That's why it's We've.
Speaker 15 (01:05:43):
Known this for years, but the data is just becoming
more and more clear. So it's really time to get
cell phones out of school.
Speaker 10 (01:05:50):
Classrooms, you know, Senator.
Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
And this goes to show how little we knew when
I was a public servant, when I was a lawmaker
with you. I remember then Howard steven sent, a State
Center or colleague of yours, he really heralded the cell
phone and tablets as real time learning that you could
learn in real time, and that there were a lot
of advantages from smartphones and tablets having them in the classroom,
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but that hasn't panned out, has it.
Speaker 15 (01:06:17):
Well, yeah, there are some advantages, but they do not
come near to outweigh the costs. And so that's why
we're you know, this legislation that I've announced today would
really restructure state policy around cell phones to make a
simple change to the default. We're not infringing on local
schools or even local teachers' ability to make decisions, but
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just saying that in the absence of a policy that
allows them, the default is no. And what we hope
that we'll do is prod school boards and teachers and
parents and students to work together to come and decide
what should where should we allow phones in the school?
Is it possible that we can allow them in classrooms
so the teachers can use them for instant polls or
instant quizzes. That's a great opportunity for teachers to be
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able to assess learning on an immediate basis as they go,
and there certainly is room for that in schools. But
having the unfettered access that we've had with these smartphones
for a dozen years has really made a negative impact
on the learning environment and a real negative impact on
student health.
Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
So, Senator, it sounds like you're going to leave it
up to the local schools, the local school districts, with
parental involvement, to really come up with their own plan.
But you're saying the default would be just to ban
them completely. Is that right? Am I reading that or
hearing that?
Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (01:07:33):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 11 (01:07:34):
Rod.
Speaker 15 (01:07:35):
I'm here at Granger High School where we held this
press conference today, where they've implemented a bell to bell
ban and where students keep their cell phones in magnetically
locked pouch during the school day, and just to hear
their principal talk about how that has gone, Tyler, how
the principal here just in only nine school days, they've
already noticed that teachers are getting through their curriculums faster,
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students are paying more attention, learning and retaining the material better,
and that he noticed that the lunch room is now
noisy at lunchtime because students are talking to each other
instead of staring at a screen.
Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
So, I what you said makes so much sense to me,
and it's and I'm glad that you're stepping forward, and
it's a good coalition. Tell tell our listeners about who
this isn't just an a silo you as a lawmaker
with a representative Welton. This is a You've got the
superintendent of public schools with you talking maybe a little
bit about the coalition that that's come together for this policy.
Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Yeah, thanks for that.
Speaker 10 (01:08:35):
Greg.
Speaker 15 (01:08:35):
You mentioned Doug Welton, who has just been you know,
he's a public school educator. Now he wasn't at our
conference today because he's teaching. But we have the state
superintendent here, we have members of the state school Board.
We had the superintendent and board members from the Granite
School Board. We've got the policy project. So this is,
you know, just the private philanthropy who's coming to the
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table to help funding so.
Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
That schools can buy these tools that they'll.
Speaker 15 (01:09:02):
Need, you know, to be able to keep cell phones
secure and unopen during the school day. It really is
a broad coalition and we're announcing this here at the
end of August just a school starting because we want
to broaden that coalition further before our legislative session happens
next year.
Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
The Center filmore. Do you expect some pushback from parents
who say you know I need to be able to
get a hold of my child instantly, Letting them have
a cell phone in the classroom is the easiest way
to do. Then, do you expect a little bit of
pushback here?
Speaker 15 (01:09:31):
I do, but I think that if parents are willing
to look at the data, what they'll find is that
that immediate access, kind of that teather that keeps parents
and kids connected all the time during the school day,
is having a real negative effect on their own children's
ability to be successful in school, to be successful in friendships,
and that in case of an emergency, which is what
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I've already heard about from parents, that they worry about
what will happen in the case of an emergency. Having
the cell phone networks at a school clogged up with
three thousand kids all trying to access social media at
the exact same time during an emergency, it actually makes
things less safe. And so we think the data shows
that from across the country where incidents have happened. So
(01:10:15):
I feel pretty confident that this is the right policy
moving forward.
Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
And I asked you about pushback from parents, what about
pushback from some lawmakers? Do you think there'll be some
opposition up on the.
Speaker 15 (01:10:25):
Hill probably because you know, lawmakers will respond to the
wishes of their constituents, and I think.
Speaker 9 (01:10:34):
That's perfectly appropriate.
Speaker 15 (01:10:36):
But that is again one reason why we're announcing this early.
Speaker 17 (01:10:39):
You know, we want.
Speaker 10 (01:10:40):
To hear what the pushback is like.
Speaker 15 (01:10:42):
We want to craft a good policy, and we want
to empower local schools to that policy. And I hope
that my colleagues in the legislature will recognize the harm
that cell phones and especially smartphones are doing inside of
our classrooms, inside of our schools. We'll just take the
step to change that default while still empowering parents to
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be able to work with their local school boards to
be able to craft a policy that's right on a
community by community basis.
Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
On our news micro line, State Senator Lincoln Fillmore, thank
you Center Fillmore for joining us. They've got some legislation
there dealing to with cell phones in school and you say,
what they're proposing, it is pretty smart legislation right now,
It's really smart.
Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
And I'll tell you why. The little detail that Center
that Filmore mentioned is this would be a default, this
would be the state policy. But if you have a
school board, a locally elected school board that wants to
have a more prescriptive or different policy. They are free
to do so, but in the absence of a really
well thought out policy regarding devices and phones, this is
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the policy. So legislature when I was there, could be
accused of being trying to be a super school district
and usurping local control. This doesn't do that. This just
puts a policy in place any school district if they
want to have a different way than they can. And
so I do think it's I think it's a really
smart way to put a bill together.
Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Yeah, well, let's open up the phones for a few
minutes on this issue, because I think it's always an
interesting discussion to have some parents. Some parents want their
children to have school cell phones in schools, as he
just mentioned. I think Center Film Moore Man was it
Granger High School.
Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
That's where they had That's where they had the press convert.
Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Yeah, but I think that's also a school that has
banned cell phones from bell to bell this year.
Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
And they don't say don't bring them in to school.
They they want to put them in these bags, in
magnetic bags. By the way, I went to an I
went to a comedian's concert at the Delta Center and
they had those bags. You had the Brillian phone and
yeah you could, they could. You couldn't have your phone out.
Wasn't it funny that a center Filmore said that the
that the cafeteria got louder, people started talking to each other.
They actually talked to figure go figure communication talking out loud.
Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
And then amazing gus. All right, Uh, we want to
hear from you about this idea where this would be
a default bill. From what I understand, right, they'd leave
it up to the schools and the parents to come
up their policy for the individual schools. That's what I like.
This is just a fallback position if they can't come
up with that. But I'd like to see if we've
got a parent out there who has a child going
to school right now and they aren't allowed to use
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their cell phones, if in fact they're noticing a difference.
Wonder if it's happened.
Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Are you noticing a difference? Do you hate the idea?
Do you want your kid to have the phone if
you needed to text them right away during the day.
Let's say you folks the number to call eight eight
eight five seven zero eight zero one zero.
Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
All right, we're talking about cell phones and schools. Lawmakers
are proposing an idea which would give school districts and
parents a fallback position to take if, in fact, they
can't come up with a policy on cell phones and schools.
We're getting your reaction to it. Let's go to Lisa
and Draper tonight here on the Rowden Greg Show. Hi, Lisa,
how are you.
Speaker 5 (01:13:44):
Hey?
Speaker 18 (01:13:44):
I'm doing great.
Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
How about you, guys, We're doing well. Thanks for asking.
Speaker 18 (01:13:49):
Thanks. I absolutely love the policy. I don't know all
the nuts and bolts of them, but I do love
the policy. We should have never allowed cell phones in
the schools ever. But I only have one caution, only
one thing that worries me, And the one thing that
worries me is the fact that we have several several
videos coming out of students in school of their teachers
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and what they're teaching them, and sometimes we get too
much woke ideology pushed down their throats, trying to change
them instead of trying to teach them math and English
and the good things. They're trying to teach the other crap.
That is the only thing negative about this that I
can see. It protects the teachers from doing whatever they want,
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and it's great because we have a lot of good teachers,
but there's I think it means parents are going to
have to be more active. They're going to have to
be finding out what's going on and get in that
room and see what kind of things are up on
the walls, and see what the talk to your kids.
I love the fact that they're going to be communicating.
You know, we don't allow cell phones at our dinner
table for a reason.
Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Good for you.
Speaker 18 (01:14:53):
We like to communicate. So that's my thinking. That's the
only negative that I can see. But the rest of
it sounds awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
All right, Lisa, thanks great observation. I agree. I agree
the whole way. And then it's true. The viral the
videos we've seen have been those those candid moments where
they put the video on and you've seen a teacher
act in a way you a parent is not meant
to ever see a teacher act. And I think those
have been important moments.
Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
She just made me feel really guilty. Why because sometimes
I have my cell phone with pan at the dinner table.
Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
Yeah, I never ever. I don't even know what a
cell phone is. I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Right back to the phones, we go, let's talk with
Kevin in Clearfield tonight here on the Rotting Greg Show.
Hi Kevin, how are you.
Speaker 5 (01:15:38):
Hi?
Speaker 17 (01:15:38):
How's it going?
Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
We're doing well, Thank you for asking.
Speaker 9 (01:15:42):
Awesome.
Speaker 17 (01:15:42):
So my question is about active shooters, earthquakes, real actual emergencies.
I mean, if the kids locked in the classroom, they
can't ask their cell phone, what happens in that situation.
Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
It's a great question. And when Center Fillmore we asked
him that, he said that sometimes when when students are
all alert an emergency, say an earthquake or something at
the same time, and they all would attempt to use
their phones, it actually they jam and they're not able
to get out good point, yeah, and communicate the way
you would imagine because everybody's using it at the same time.
So Senator Fillmore said, the assumption that that would be
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the case is also challenging. If everyone was trying to
use their cell phone.
Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Well, what did we do when we were in school?
Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
We got under the desk? I think, yeah, I think
I was like the drill we used to have the
nuclear war.
Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Did you have the nuclear war?
Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Time you had to go sit under our desk? Like
that was that mushroom cloud is going to be going
to be protected.
Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
We didn't do under the desk. We went out in
the hall kneeled with our face against the wall.
Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
Yeah, I just I don't even.
Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Know that was going to protect.
Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
Us from the fire drills too.
Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
But you know, yeah, we have fire drills all the time.
But I mean, the cell phone is a is an issue,
right if But but like you, I didn't even think
about what cender Fillmore said. If you've got eight hundred
kids in the school and all of a sudden there's emergency,
they've all got cell phones. They're jamming the lines, are
they not?
Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
That that is the risk and it's you've seen and
if you go to a football game, that's a lot
more than what's inside of a school. But you've gone
anywhere where anyone's trying to use all their phones at
the same time. It does make it. It does gum
up the system. I have a question because I've we've
gotten a couple of our loyal listeners that have brought
up the iPhone watch. Is there a watch that you
can't I don't, I don't I don't have a I
don't have one. Can you text on them? Or are
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they as much of a distraction. I'm I'm just curious.
I don't think there's much a distract. Now I can
take a call on my on my eye watch. Okay, okay,
can you text on that I watch?
Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Yes, I can text on it.
Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
That's like passing notes. Really, yeah you can't.
Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Well it's kind of tiny, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
Yeah, I see it, but I just don't. I think
the whole point is to keep the eyes off of devices,
in on the teacher or on a.
Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
Well, you can't tell them not to wear a watch.
Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Well, I watch, you can.
Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
No, you can't.
Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
I think you can. Just I don't know. I again,
I would defer to our wise listeners because the watch
angle I hadn't the wrinkle I hadn't thought of, And
then catching teachers acting poorly is also I think there's
been an advantage of that. But I swear to you though,
these kids are having a difficult time communicating with each
other in real time because of the dependency on technology.
Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Well, there's a there's a there's a new one and
it's sold here in Utah. You'll see ad for the
gap watch gab watch, which allows you to do some
things and doesn't allow you to do what other things?
That I understand it's pretty popular with especially the younger kids. Yeah,
you know, so that'd be okay. John is in South
Jordan tonight listening to Rod and Greg wants to weigh
in on this. Hi, John, how are you? Thanks for
(01:18:34):
joining us?
Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Good?
Speaker 4 (01:18:36):
I was just, you know, thinking, since we have police
that wear cameras for camera stops, let's just take and
if we take and put a camera in so that
the parents the teachers are recorded during the classroom days
and then the parents can access that and view it
at any time, that would help eliminate the need for
(01:18:57):
the cell phone in the classroom too.
Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
I loved that idea. I've had teachers that that aren't
afraid that they're acting poorly, but have not liked the
idea of having those cameras in there. But I always
thought that I'm with John. I would think if you
had a large class size, which Utah's classes are inherently
larger per teacher, had a lot of kids there, man,
if you saw your kid acting up in misbehaving, or
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you're told watch the video that this period the kid
was misbehaving, I could I think that would help in
class management and also for those rare moments where you
do see a teacher saying things that that teacher would
not say in the presence of a teacher. Maybe that
sobers them up a little bit and they don't say
things they wouldn't say in front of a teacher.
Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
I have a son who was a treachery now in
an administration. He hated the idea.
Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Yeah, well, so I'm curious why because I wouldn't imagine
he's doing anything he wouldn't. He wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
But I don't know. I think I think teachers generally
do not like the idea. Now I may be wrong, No,
I think you're right, But I think teachers do not
like the idea put in a classroom or put in
a camera in a class from We have cameras all
over this building. Yeah, now we don't have them in
this studio per se. They won't allow it because it's
so obscene.
Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
In you've seen them.
Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Well, we walk up and down the hall, everything we
do in this building is on a camera. Yeah, I'm
not I understand, and I don't understand because there is
some opposition to this from teachers at times, and I
don't I we'll get more calls on this one too.
Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
Teachers a lot of teachers I deeply respect, don't like
the idea of the cameras in there, But I just
it doesn't track with me because I think it could help.
It could help in that classroom environment, especially if you've
got a kid that's been rotten. It's not your word
versus theirs, or a lot of parents, just let them
see it. Sometimes it's it's easier to communicate through video
and letting someone see something versus a written report that
(01:20:44):
says something's happened.
Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
All right, let's open up the phones on that one
as well. We got a lot of people went in
that sure did spark some interest. Cameras in the classroom
eight eight eight five seven o eights. There are a
one zero triple eight five seven oags or a one
zero on your cell phone dial pound two fifty and
say hey Rod, it is in hues and along with
Rod Arkent, you're on talk radio one oh five nine
can Ter s boy. People really want to weigh in
(01:21:06):
on this idea of either banning cell phones or cameras. Now,
we were just told that all the buses in the
Jordan School District. School buses have cameras in there, Yes,
and they're to protect the drivers and protect the kids
at the same time.
Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
And there's no drama to it. The bus drivers, well,
at least from the reports we get, you know, from
our ears reports is that it is a welcomed asset
for the driver to have when you know, Gammer in
the school bus like that period for a myriad of reasons.
And I would think that the same would apply in classrooms,
(01:21:39):
but I've heard differently from some teachers.
Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
So it's Rod and Greg gun Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine can Arrests being joined by Steve in
leyton tonight, who wants to give us his thoughts on this.
How are you, Steve? Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
Oh, I'm fine.
Speaker 4 (01:21:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
I'd like to see body cams on the teachers.
Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
I don't think that would ever happened to Steve. Have
you all my honor's opinion?
Speaker 11 (01:22:04):
I don't think you would either, but they'd have to
put on front and back.
Speaker 8 (01:22:06):
I guess I don't know if still right on the blackboards.
Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
I think they do. I think are blackboards still in
his classrooms anymore? I've been to a classroom forever. Isn't
it all electronic stuff? I I don't know what you're
stunned by that question.
Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
No, I I don't know if there's it's a very
good question. I should know whether there's chalkboards in schools,
but I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
I don't either have no idea either. Robert is in
Morgan tonight with Rod and Greg.
Speaker 8 (01:22:30):
Hi, Robert, oh, Rod, Hello, Greg? How are you today?
Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
We're doing well? Thank you?
Speaker 9 (01:22:38):
Good?
Speaker 18 (01:22:39):
Hey.
Speaker 8 (01:22:40):
So the only question I got, I don't have a
problem with the banning of cell phones, but my daughter
uses hers for medical purposes. Okay, So I'm just curious
how they would use how they would identify that issue.
Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
I wonder if there'd be an exemption would that I
would think there would have to be.
Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
Yeah, it would be like going to the nurse's option.
Know how, if there's some medication you have to take
while you're at the school, there's a process for the
nurse to know about it. I would imagine that for
medical purposes, there would be some kind of process for that.
Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
Do you ever fake being sick all the time? What
that fake?
Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
Goodness? Yeah, for all the times I said I was sick,
I was never sick. You were never I'd just like
to sleep.
Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
Yeah. Well, the lawmakers held their event today. Well, one
of the lawmakers. The other one couldn't be there with
this school, Yeah, because he teaches. School was held at
Granger High School today which have banned cell phones. Bell
to bell, And we have Eric in West Valley whose
son goes to Granger. What's the report back, Eric from
your son? What does he think of this idea?
Speaker 19 (01:23:41):
Well, fortunately he's not a screen ager, which he calls
a lot of kids that just can't get off.
Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
Their phone like that.
Speaker 10 (01:23:52):
He doesn't mind it overall.
Speaker 19 (01:23:53):
The one one part that has been difficult. As you
can imagine that there's about three thousand kids and come
into school that as they drop off there's a little
bit of a delay. But once they get out of school,
trying to get to their phone and get where they
need to get it's difficult. There's three three stations and
three thousand kids trying to get their mobile devices can
(01:24:17):
be difficult. But I was also going to let you
know that at least a Granger, my understanding is it
is their phone, it is their air watch, their their
Apple watches and their AirPods. They have to put those in.
Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
Wow watches and then get them out.
Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
After everything higher in everything.
Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
You you have identified the part That's why I love
that you as a caller. I love the art colors
you'vedentify three thousand kids in three stations. That's like, that'd
be like World Wars E zombie movie. People trying to get.
Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
To those crawl over each other, crawl over each other.
All right, Eric, thank you. Let's go to uh pat
in where is he? He's in cash Cash Valley, tonight,
beautiful Cash Valley. Hi, Pat, how are you?
Speaker 9 (01:25:00):
Hi?
Speaker 20 (01:25:01):
I'm fine. I enjoy your show, you guys, And I
don't know. I couldn't hear the comments, but I think
there needs I love the idea, but I believe there
needs to be accommodations being made for diabetices that monitors
and with that's something that's.
Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Already brought up.
Speaker 20 (01:25:23):
I don't know that. And then carrying aids adjustments are
made on cell phones. So those two, those two, I
think they need to make some accommodations for for that
and especially the diabetics, uh kids, because that can make
a difference between life and death.
Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Yeah, it can, Pat, And I would I would have
to think, Greg, there be you know, and the beauty
of what sender Fillmore and.
Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
The other lawmaker represent Welton.
Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
Yeah, I have thought about is each school or school
district would be allowed to come up with their own
plan with input from parents. That's the beauty of this
idea is that each school or school district would come
up with their own idea. And I think that's the
way it should.
Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
I actually have a better way. The input from the
callers and listeners of this show probably would be superior
to all parents in respective school. So we draft the
poll just reflect the sentiments of our callers, and there
is there's the common sense right there, because these have
been great. These have been really really good observations. The
one about the three stations that all the kids have
(01:26:32):
to go to get their phones, that's a practical problem
that needs talking about that I watch. I think that
was a good detail brought up medical having those health considerations.
There has to be accommodation for that for obvious reasons.
So I love these observations that are And the cameras
in the classroom that keeps you from having a video
on your phone.
Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Yeah, what what did one of our callers call them
a screen ager?
Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
Screen ager?
Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
I kind of like that screen agers, not a screen agent. Well,
let's go to Grantsville. Well, Lynn wants to talk about
this tonight with Rod and Greg. Hi, Lynn, how are you?
Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
I'm doing well? How are you?
Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
We're well? Thank you.
Speaker 11 (01:27:09):
The point I just want to make was, you know,
I've got smart watches, but they only work when my
phone works. So I don't know if iPhones work the
same way with those high watches. But if you don't
have your phone or your phone with the have data,
you're my watch. You can't text or call on.
Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
That, Lynn. Is there a range for that? So if
they had their their phone and like one of those
magnetic bags are talking about, would the would would it
have to be with that phone? If it have to
be so close to the watch for it to work.
I don't know. I don't have one.
Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Yeah, I think the magnetic bag.
Speaker 11 (01:27:43):
Yeah, it just connects true bluetooth. So if my phone
loses data, like if I put an airplane metal one,
it's just a watch.
Speaker 9 (01:27:51):
At that point.
Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Yeah, okay, all right, all right, Lynn, thank you. Let's
go to uh Steven. He's on I fifteen tonight with
Rod and Greg. Hi, Steven, thanks for joining.
Speaker 10 (01:27:58):
Us, Hey, Rod, thanks for taking the call.
Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
You're welcome.
Speaker 10 (01:28:02):
My brother is a teacher. My brother's a teacher up
in Hebrew and they've had the cameras in the classroom
for several years, and in random incidents, the cameras have
been called up quite frequently, and it's used to verify
student activities, teachers' activities, whether they're spending too much time
at death or not. And this year they actually instituted
(01:28:23):
a cell phone ban, but the students are allowed to
have the phones as long as they're not out in
the classroom. So for children with diabetic pumps, the phone
runs the pump, but if the phone comes out, the
teacher can take the phone and send into the office
or write the child up or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
What kind of benefits have they had from the cameras
in the classroom, Steven, what's your brother say about that?
Does he like it?
Speaker 10 (01:28:51):
He does, because when parents have had questions, they pull
the footage in front of the teacher in the principal's
office and everybody looks at it together they say, well,
either this happened or it didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
Wow, wow, wait, I just go straight back to my youth.
I'm just Stephen's brilliant announcement. I love that this is
actually on the ground happening. I love in Utah, so
and Hebrew. They have cameras in the classroom, just like
the school bus driver. It's saying, we have cameras on
the school bus. So this isn't like impossible, it's not incomprehensible.
It's actually happening in a lot of schools, a lot
(01:29:25):
of classrooms, a lot of buses. The narration is that
it does help reveal the behavior of the kid. And
these are the behavior of the teacher and of the teacher.
And I think all of this resonates with me because
I think about my conduct as a kid when I'm
in school, and I am just very grateful there were
no cameras.
Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
The stories do you tell me?
Speaker 8 (01:29:47):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
And I'm suform, I'm a reformed, I'm a you know,
as an adult father, I'm not you know, I don't
condone the conduct of that kid, you know, but I
will say, if you had a video camera in there,
that would have a chilling effect on a lot of spitballs.
Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
Yeah, a lot of stuff. I am so surprised you
aren't in an orange jump.
Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
You know what. I am too. You know what, there's
some good people in my life that helped me through there.
I will tell you that if I'm a kid and
I want to cause trouble but there are cameras going on,
I think I would know I would be in trouble.
Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
All Right, more coming up, final segment, Rod and Greg
with you on this Monday and talk radio Want oh
five nine kN R s here on Utah's Talk Radio
Want oh five nine K and r ass. I want
to bring this up. What was it? Two weeks from now,
Saturday the seventeenth, Tucker Carlson will be here with Glenn Deck.
Speaker 3 (01:30:40):
Yes, big event, Big event.
Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
Now we're we're going to do a little fun with this,
wiring out the details. But I think what's going to
happen is we're going to give away tickets to the event,
and included in that ticket giveaway before the event is
dinner with Rod and Greg. No, I don't think we'll
get anybody.
Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
Now, I was going to say, we think this is
and we think this is a value add ladies and gentlemen.
We don't think this will have a chilling effect on
the contest to win tickets to see Tucker Carlson and Glen.
Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
You know they may win and not show up for
the dinner.
Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
Yeah, I hope not.
Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
We're trying to put it together at the Huckleberry Grill,
which is absolutely delicious.
Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
And forget that, we're going just the Huckleberry Grill good
for is worth the trip.
Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
But you can you can enjoy our eff personalities.
Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
You're going to ruin it for us. This is actually
that's one of the host tickets in town. I'm telling
you there's a lot of people excited about talker Craft.
Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
Well we we as well. Yeah, we've still got some tickets.
Plus we're going to combine that with dinner before the event,
and uh, mister Hughes myself.
Speaker 3 (01:31:44):
Will be We're going to feed you. We're gonna be.
Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
We aren't doing the cooking, are we No?
Speaker 3 (01:31:48):
But we can we can, we can faciler.
Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
Are we serving you if you're if you're waited on tables?
Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
I was, well, I was, I was a you're a
bus boys, A bus boy I've never done. I was
the bus boy and the omelet chef on Sunday brunch.
Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
Really yeah, but I was do you make a good omelet?
Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
I make a brilliant omelet. That's where I learned to
make them. Yeah, really, every Christmas morning I make omelets
made to order.
Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Never invited me down to your house Christmas.
Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
Well, omlets, you haven't lived till you've had in my omelets.
I'm telling you, that's the only thing I can.
Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
I wanted to know how these servers put about eighteen
plates on their arms and walk down a nile.
Speaker 9 (01:32:23):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (01:32:23):
I as a bell house, I used to be able
to eat off the buffet on Sundays and I used
to literally put eighteen plates. I could only go once.
The manager would let me go once through the brunch
line would I would balance literally six plates on my tour.
Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
Well, we wanted to tell you stay tuned. In the
coming days, we'll have details how you can win, and
you'll get tickets to see Tucker and Glenn and before that,
dinner with you and I.
Speaker 3 (01:32:46):
Yeah, it'll be fun. Honestly, in all seriousness, this is
going to be an incredible event. These are widely pop
wildly popular. Tucker Carlson is a thought leader and a
funny guy and funny and these shows are entertaining. And
he doesn't always have Glenn be with him. This is
a this is fun to have the two of them.
Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
He's going around the country to different cities, and every
city he has different co hosts with him, and here
in soult Lake, he's he's planned the deal'll have like.
Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
Glenn with him and on going back show that he
had Tuck run the other day and he said it
because Glenn knows how to talk to him an audience.
It's going to be especially fun.
Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
Yeah, it will be fun, so stay tuned for that.
We'll have details coming out in the coming days and
a chance for you to win. So it should be fun.
Should be fun.
Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
Hey, back to school, I know time to go?
Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
Yeah, don't got any time, Farnet, you don't pay attention
to the clock. I don't obviously, all right, that doesn't
for us Tonight, head up, shoulders back. May God bless
you and your family and that's great country of ours.
We'll be back to arm we promise. At four
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