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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know those movies. Mission impossible, Yes, mission impossible would
be to censor Greg Hughes. Yeah, try try you self.
Admit that your talent is talking.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yeah, Michael Jordan plays basketball. I talk. That's it. There
you go. I don't care. I'll say it out loud.
You don't don't care at all. Nope, put a nickel.
Let me get a bucks worth of speech. That's what
you get. Well, that does. Before I ever entered the
building here, that's a radio. That's just me.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
I've talked to people out there in the real world
who work with you and have to work with you,
and they say, how do you get them to shut up?
And I say, I have his mic?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, yes, I control the to my point. I knew that.
I knew that's what was happening here.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
All right, all right, we have got a lot to
get to. It is day two of the Democratic National Convention.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
And I have a profession.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Well, and I have a confession too. We have pledged
to our listeners that we would watch it so they
didn't have to, but we both failed.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah. I'm gonta pace myself better. I have to pace
myself better. I can't jump right in one as soon
as we were tracking it. While we were finishing the
show yesterday, I get in the car, I turn it
on the radius. I'm listening to this blather on the
way home. I get in my office because Queen Bee
doesn't want to hear a word from Kamala Harris or
Hillary Clinton. She doesn't want to hear that echo went
through the house. She doesn't want to hear any of it.

(01:15):
So I'm in my office and I am just losing
my mind. I can't get through it. I can't get
through it. I end up watching Narcos on Netflix because
I can't. It's more, you know, Pablo escobar story is
more inspiring and heartfelt and real than what we were
watching last night. I couldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, it was tough for me as well. Last a
matter of fact, you know, we had pledged that we
would pay attention to what Joe Biden said. And I
didn't get up this morning and watch a very good
portion of it. Drove me nuts. You know, it's not
a way to start your morning listening to an old, angry,
old man, because that's what Joe Biden is all about
right now. And I tell you what, Greg, I am

(01:53):
so sick and tired of him yelling at me.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Isn't it something?

Speaker 1 (01:56):
I mean, he is just angry.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
We'll get into it layer in the show, and because
we have some great guests that are going to help,
are going to join us to talk about what happened
last night, what's going to happen today. But you know,
if you go back to twenty twenty, he was the
adult in the room. He was going to end the
chaos of Trump and he was going to be a
president for all of America, not just Republicans are just Democrats,
but for everyone. Listen to that screaming he did yesterday.

(02:21):
He is there are seventy eight million people that voted
for Trump last in twenty twenty, that he just basically,
you know, just rode off and condemned as much as
you could. Donald Trump himself, the guy you know, well
you know you got he was on at eleven thirty Eastern.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
I was going to say, Fortunately, probably most of America
didn't have to endure what he had to say last night.
Because you claim there was a plot, yes that they were.
They did a slow bake up.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
It's called the slow bake, and that is no you're
coming up mister president, You're like the star of the show.
Now you're coming here. It's any minute. Now. You just
wait right there, just wait right there. It's almost not Wait,
what's what? And he sat and he waited, Yes, he waited.
And then you know, evening news starts around eleven. It
starts at eleven in the East Coast. Wait past that,
wait till you know when anyways say hey, wait. They

(03:10):
wait as long as humanly possible, and then they let
him out.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Well, here's an indication a basketball coach took preference over
Joe Biden last night. They didn't kick Steve Kerr off
the podium line. Now, they did kick James Taylor was
expected to perform. He got yanked, He got yanked, he
got the hook. They put the hook on him. Yeah,
and then they bring old Joe out at about what
I think. He took stage at about eleven thirty two

(03:35):
Eastern time and spoke for fifty two minutes.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Well, you know, he had a lot of you know,
one thing is you never know what you get. You know,
He's like he's like a box of chocolates, that guy, right,
you never know what you're going to get. And you
didn't know if he was going to come in sleepy
and just kind of you know, just not knowing where
he was looking for nap time, or if he'd come
in all juiced up like he did at this Shout
at the Union address. Well we got the kind of
the shout at the Union Address version of him. But

(04:00):
they weren't taking any chances either way. They didn't want
any of that happening when most of America be watching.
But by the way, who a lot of as many
people watch Day one. I mean they even put the
guy they just kind of kicked to the curb. Who
thought he was where the where the platform thinks he's
still the nominee. You know, they mentioned him over and
over again in their Democrat Party platform. They put him

(04:22):
on the first night, way late, right before, right before
the janitors come in to clean up all the you know,
the you know, the cups and trays that people have
left around and clean it all up for the night.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Poor old Joe. And then he then he left last night.
He's in California for the next week on vacation. Yeah,
he's not going to stay.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, but you know he needs to leave because his
liar liar pants on fire. This guy's pants are on fire.
He needed to get out of there, because how could
he even answer a question? If anyone from at least
if some of the if Fox News or anyone could
ever if Peter Doucy could get in front of him,
maybe they'd ask him. But he keeps perpetual things that

(05:00):
are just fundamentally and verifiably false. Yeah, and so you
better get out of town and leave. Leave with what
you said, because he can't back up what you said.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Now, well, let's go over some of those lives he
told last night. Now, one of the ones that he is.
This is what he claimed, this is why he ran
to begin with, and we're talking about, you know, what
happened in Charlottesville. So he regurgitated the very fine people
hopes during his speech last night.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
When the President was asked what he thought had.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Happened, Donald Trump said, I.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Quote, there are very fine people on both sides.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
My god, that's what he said. That is what he
said and what he meant. No, it is not what
he said, and no it is not what he meant.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Even the left of center fact so called fact checkers
have actually said that is that is a misrepresentation of
what he said. Yeah, Snopes and all the other fact checkers, go, look,
he did not say that. Yeah, but you know what,
I think Biden actually said the word the equivalent or worse.
He's got some pro terrists that that slaughtered women and

(06:03):
children and babies that he thinks might have a point.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, they made a point. They made a point.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Well.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
He also another issue is illegal immigration. Well, guess what
he told another whopper last night about illegal crossings.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Then I had to take executive action. The result of
the executive action I took, border encounters have dropped over
fifty percent. In fact, there are fewer border crosses today
that when Donald Trump left office.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Border encounters have dropped fifty.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
That's because that's because there's no one there anymore at
the border. They don't encounter anyone because they don't. Yeah,
they they don't patrol the border.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
They don't.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
They don't even welcome them in anymore. They just have left.
And so that's why there's no encounters. Yeah, that's not true. Yeah,
that was a lie.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Here's another lie. This is the famous uh suckers and
losers line about vets.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
We call them suckers and losers.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Who in the hell does.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
He think he is who.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
I'm waiting for him to take a shoe off and
start pounding the table.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Chef.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yes, a long time ago. I know another line. Shall
we continue with the uh? The this? He decided to
talk about crime in America and he said crime is
down for.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
The rates, folly faster than any time in history. Violent
crime has dropped to the lowest level of more than
fifty years.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
And crime will keep.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Coming down when we put a prosecutor in the Oval
office instead of a convicted felon.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
He just loves saying that line.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Well, that law fair stuff and convicted felon. That just
makes it. There's a collective eye roll with America because
they know the fix is in on that. But you
want to know why you can get any statistic to
go down? Stop counting. Yeah, that's what they do, and
that's what you did.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
I'm massage the numbers, look at them in a different way,
and that's what they do now. Now, Last, but not least,
we know how successful Joe Biden and Kamala were when
they came to with COVID.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yes, the country was during his first.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Year in office for twato we had freedom, we were
being told what to do and we absolutely loved it. Well,
he bragged a little bit about his COVID polic was during.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
The pandemic, Kammaha helps states and cities get back their
schools back open.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
I just laugh at this stuff.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
It is, you know, it's just none of his truth.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
And there are some Americans out there who are doing
this hook line and singer, and they believe every word
he says.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
I just everybody lived through COVID. So when he says
that we got everybody back to school, we got every
all the businesses open, they just have to know that
didn't actually happen the way he just described it. I
would hope. Well, I know our listeners know they do well.
We have the smartest listeners in the world.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
That's right, all right, We do a lot to get
to We'll talk about more about what happened with Joe
Biden last night. Liz Peak will join us a little
bit later on. Liz is going to weigh in on this,
and we'll talk about what happens tonight. The Obamas show
up to me.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
I'll pace myself there, folks. I will start at the
beginning of that thing and try to make it to
the end. I'll come in a little later my endurance.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Don't even try stronger, don't even try. All right, more
coming up. Great to be with you on this Tuesday
afternoon here on the Rodden Greg Show and Utah's Talk
Radio one oh five nine K and R as all right,
let's talk more about Joe Biden. Last night there was
an article written by Stephen Green. Stephen Green writes for
PJ Media. Always enjoy his articles, right, but he wrote

(09:26):
this article about Joe Biden is easily the worst human
being to ever hold office of the President of the
United States. Now you're going that's that's a strong statement.
That's a strong statement, right, Well, listen to I mean,
he tells a very interesting story about why he writes that,
and he talks about, you know, Biden, his past four

(09:48):
years have been horrible. But then he goes on to
talk about Joe Biden and using tragedies in his life
to take advantage political advantage of what happened. And here's
I had never heard the story, Greg. You may have
Biden has spent decades, all right, using the corpse of
his first wife and baby daughter, Neelia and Naomi to

(10:09):
garner sympathy from audiences. I'd never heard this story she
was killed in a car crash, right that authorities determined
was almost certainly due to his wife being distracted by
three kids in the car. But he blamed the innocent
truck driver who drank his lunch that terrible day that
caused the crash, even though police say it was his

(10:32):
wife who was distracted and caused the crash, not the
drunk driver. Right. The man's name was Curtis Done. He
did no such thing. Right. As a matter of fact,
his daughter Pamela spent years trying to get Biden to
apologize for smearing her father. Although Done was not at
fault and was quick to render assistance, he was haunted

(10:53):
by the accident for the rest of his life. His
daughter says he always got veried down around Christmas time
because the anniversary of the accident was on December eighteenth,
and he never wanted to celebrate the holidays. But Joe
Biden had accused him of causing the accident, indication the
investigation showed that he wasn't the cause of the accident,
but he has never apologized. Which that's the type of

(11:16):
human being Joe Biden is, and.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
It shouldn't surprise us because he's Hunter Biden has a
has a child, which would make that President Biden's grandchild.
That child has done nothing, has not made any choices
that would be unseemly, and yet Joe Biden and Joe
Biden refused to acknowledge the existence of that child. And
I just think that's a that's a terrible reflection.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
But that story about the accident, you know, it wasn't
cause and he blamed this guy for causing the accident
that led to his wife and daughter being killed, and
he continually insists it was caused by the drunk driver,
and the investigation showed he was not at fault.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Well, to your point, I've heard that story, and until
you described this to me today, I assumed she was
killed by drunk driver.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
You have heard it. You what him saying. The investigation
show she may have been distracted. Now, the other one
I wanted to bring up. David de Marcus, who we've
had on the show, wrote a great article today as well,
Greg about the difference between the r n C and
the d n C. And he points out, you know,
we were at the RNC. It was a festival. I
mean there were things going on all outside the the

(12:23):
It was a four serve forum what they call it
five serf serve, Yeah, five serf, five serve forum. But
there were events going out outside. It was really a festival.
Then he talks about going to the d n C.
He said, it's like a fortress around there, no activities
on the outside. It'd be no different than going to
a basketball game to watch Michael Jordan.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Wow. Yeah, no, we not only was it festive outside,
not only were there you know, shops and people everywhere
and everything going on, but the but even on the
first night, it was packed. It was a packed house.
Some people were listening to every speech. And I even
think the atmosphere outide, the atmosphere inside, even the people
that were on the stage at the Republican National Convention

(13:05):
very very different in tone, background, perspective than what we
heard last night that I tried to listen to last night,
but I could not get through at I you know, Yeah,
Hillary Clinton's just, you know, she has not gotten any
better since the last time we saw her in sixteen.
It's just it's just terrible.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Well, the thing that you kept pointing out to me
when we were at the RNC was, look at the
regular everyday Americans who were speaking. Yes, every night there
were three or four people right whose lives were impacted
by illegal immigration or were trying to survive because of
the economy, Regular everyday Americans. Did you see one on
that stage last night?

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Not only did you not see them? And to be fair,
prior to this year's RNC Republican National Convention, it was
kind of the training ground for up and coming members
of your party that are in you know that are
governors or members of Congress or senators to kind of
I mean this is I mean Obama had a great
speech in a prior election, prior convention. It was kind

(14:03):
of his kind of his springboard. People said Bill Clinton
had done the same kind of shout foreshadowing a future
run for himself. So it's always kind of been that,
but really the the Republican National Convention departed from that,
and you just heard heart wrenching stories, inspiring stories, important
stories from everyday Americans. And then you get to this
one last night and they're bringing up the old guard.

(14:25):
It's the old guard. You know, it's the Hillary Clinton,
It's the you know you're gonna hear from I guess
from Bill Clinton Rabama tonight. But you heard, you know AOC.
I mean it just they're just all it's the political class.
The political class just talking at you, not you know,
not talking having a conversation or sports stars.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Steve Kerr was there last night. Hollywood will show up,
you know, you know, so where are the regular people?
I thought the Democratic Party was the party of the
people anymore.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
No, it's a Capricorn one movie. Like we said yesterday,
it is all stage. This is a this is all
a production. There's not one real thing going on on
any front. Media speeches, platforms that she doesn't even have
her website, doesn't even have a policy position page on
the on the website.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Pretty amazing, pretty amazing. All right, when we come back,
Liz Peak from Fox News will join us. Sh'll break
down what her thoughts about what Joe Biden had to say.
That's coming up on the Rotten Greg Show right here
on Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine K and
r Ask.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Right now, we have one of our this is a
regular guest, and I love Liz Peak. She is a
calmnist with Fox News, and she has a great article
about Joe Biden's uh just Joe Biden, I mean, I
I don't even want to go any further than that,
because it's just Joe Biden.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
I got to ask you, Liz. My co host Greg
Hughes is saying that the Democrats kind of slow baked
Joe Biden last night so he wouldn't be on Primetime,
ended up being on in the middle of the night.
What say you about that?

Speaker 6 (15:55):
Well, it's an interesting question. I mean, it is mortifying.
I think they had Joe Biden only speak on Monday night,
a night went by the way some people aren't even
yet at the convention, and a night that if you
look back at the GOP convention, yeah, there were some
senators and various people there, but it really wasn't the
big gun. So this was I thought humiliating. And then yeah,

(16:19):
to have him come on. I don't know about you.
I did watch it, and I kind of forget when
he actually showed up Eastern time. I think it was
like eleven thirty or so, and you know, I can't
imagine there was much of an audience for that.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
So why did they do that?

Speaker 6 (16:33):
Well, first of all, if he put on, I mean,
if it was a catastrophe like the debate, if he
was really not in good shape. I think every it
would have been such a downer for the first night
at the convention, and it would have really reawakened all
those thoughts people had across the country, like, well, wait
a minute, this is the guy who actually forced to

(16:53):
run again that you you know, made a glide path
for in order to make sure he was going to
be the nomine Everybody knew he was on a.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
Downward slope, but it was much worse than we thought.

Speaker 6 (17:04):
So you know, remember you lied to us, and if
he did a really great job, then he possibly everyone
would be saying, well, wait a minute, why did they
kick him out?

Speaker 5 (17:12):
So it was a very I think it was a
very tough night.

Speaker 6 (17:16):
For the DNC. As it happened, I thought he did
a horrible job. It was an angry, bellicos finger waving,
you know, no holds bar speech of the kind that
maybe he would have given if he if it was
his convention, if he were the nominee. But as it
turned out, I just thought it was really unpleasant and unlikable,

(17:37):
and I don't think it did much for Kamala Harris.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, you mentioned that how angry he was, and I
have to admit I didn't pace myself. Well, I was
there to watch the whole thing. I got it. I
don't know much past Hillary Clinton. I just couldn't watch anymore.
I just turned on Narcos. I I've watched the cliffs
since then. You know, the big take on Biden was
he was going to unite this country. He was a

(18:00):
president for all Americans. It wasn't going to be just
for Republicans or just for Democrats. You listening to him
and watching him yell and point his finger and all
that he was doing, does he not just care anymore?
Or are they abandoning even the idea that they want
to present a presidential ticket that would represent all Americans?
Are they just going to just keep dividing like that?

(18:22):
I mean, what can you take from that? His how angry?

Speaker 6 (18:25):
Well, I think the whole bringing the country together thing
was always a fraud.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
I don't think he believed in that for a moment.
If you go back.

Speaker 6 (18:34):
Even his earliest speeches, he's really calling out Trump and
his seventy eight million or whatever followers as being kind
of horrible people.

Speaker 7 (18:43):
So that was.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
Look, my view is everything.

Speaker 6 (18:47):
He ran on in twenty twenty was completely bogus. He
did not mean to unite the country he wanted. He
hates Donald Trump, and last night that came through probably
louder and clearer than anything else. Not only does he
hate Tonald Trump, he hates the people who follow Donald
Trump who want to elect Donald Trump. The second thing
he is totally a fraud about is this whole idea

(19:07):
that he was running as a moderate. Did people does
not understand that when he sat down with Bernie Sanders
and signed on to Bernie Sanders' agenda, that there was
a point to that that he was basically doing a
deal with the devil. We didn't give Bernie Sanders the nomination,
but bye gosh, we're going to take his agenda so
all of his followers will come out and vote for us.

(19:29):
That's what happened. And Joe Biden never went back to
the middle. He didn't even pretend to until about two
months before the convention, where yeah, he made some stab
at securing the border after three and a half years
of doing nothing about it. I mean, there's so many
topics on which Joe Biden really is very far left,

(19:49):
and now we have a replacement who's even farther left
than Joe Biden.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
Wow, what an outcome.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
We're talking right now with Liz Peek. Liz, what about
this off the script he made last night concerning Palestine
and Gaza, saying, you know, those people out there have
a good point. Really, I mean, what was that all about, Liz?

Speaker 6 (20:11):
Well, look, Joe Biden has no idea what's going on.
I don't think in Gaza. And I'm not saying that flippantly.
Nobody really knows because we're getting all the information from Hamas.
So do we really believe what Hamas is telling us?
Do we believe that citizens are being ruthlessly mowed down
by the IDF? No, because the IDF has gone to enormous,

(20:33):
unprecedented links to protect civilian lives in Gaza, and it
is there is no question that Hamas sacrifices Palestinian lives
when they put their munition stores in schools and in
hospitals and have their headquarters in those kinds of buildings
that are attractive to civilians. So you know, look, that

(20:57):
was just a stop to the pro Palestinian group that
was threatening to destroy this convention protest this and more
importantly to Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. They're the ones
who might popple their claim on Michigan voters.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
I made of one hundred.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
Thousand Muslims and it was basically all Muslims who wrote
in non committed during the Democrat primary when Joe Biden's
name was on that. Kamala Harris and Joe Biden are
very worried that that's going to cost them an important
swing state and it could well.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Liz, here's the question, because they have to walk the
Kamala Harris Walls ticket has to walk this very fine line.
They want to, they want to tout and they want
to take President Biden and for whatever good or whatever
power the incumbency brings, they want to own that. But
they don't want to own a record because it's a
how were you four years ago? It's a failure of

(21:52):
a question for them to have to ask. Last night,
the border was brought up eight times, crime, six times,
inflation only three times, Trump one hundred and forty seven times.
I think they are there.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
They are.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
They are pushing by and away because they don't want
to own that record. They want to run against Trump
as if he were the incumbent. Are they just your analysis?
You're a thought leader, You watch this stuff so closely.
Are they going to be able to enjoy the incumbency
that she's had for over one thousand, three hundred days
and run as the as the challenger to Trump? Is
that going to fly with the American people? Do you think?

Speaker 6 (22:28):
Well, well, that is certainly what she's doing. And I
mean I even tweeted about this last night. They're acting
like if only Democrats were in charge, things would be
so so much better. Hello, they are in charge, right,
This is so you know, I keep looking at the
demographics and saying to myself, who is it that backs

(22:49):
Kamala Harris and her progressive policies. I'll tell you who
it is, college educated, mostly liberals, white liberals, and then minorities.
So don't those college educated people have some I mean,
are they this stupid that they don't recall that Kamala
Harris and Joe Biden have been in the White House

(23:10):
for three and a half years.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
If the Kamala Harrison is not going.

Speaker 6 (23:13):
The price of bread is up fifty the price of
beef is up fifty percent. Yes, on your watch, these
things have happened. And I'll tell you why they've happened
very quickly, because I know this is in the weeds.
The truth is federal spending is at least five percentage
points above relative to GDP its historic norms. Tax revenues

(23:36):
are almost exactly where they've always been versus historical norms.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
It is not that we're not picking up enough taxes.

Speaker 6 (23:43):
It is not the greedy corporations and the wealthy aren't
paying their fair share. It is because we're spending too
much money. That's what happened. They are responsible for it.
And apparently all these people went to college never took
economics one oh one, because that's what you would learn
that this is called stimulus and it's not sustainable, but

(24:03):
they want to sustain it and get us even the
more trouble in terms of deficits in our debt. And
if we elect Kamala Harris, that's what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Liz, thank you very much for joining us. She has
a rather strong opinion of Joe Biden.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, which spot on all these college people she's talking about, like,
when do we stop voting in ourself And there's nothing
wrong with voting in your self interest because the collective
self interest is usually the right direction to go. I
don't know anyone who's looking at this, at this ticket
and what they're suggesting by way of policies. Know what
they're talking about, Bubba's coming.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Bubba's coming and Brocket's coming.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Look in case anyone heard in the discussion with Lizabeth Peek, I,
you know, I I do well, Actually, Bill Clinton, if
we look in hindsight at the time, I didn't appreciate
this man, but I got to tell you, in hindsight
he hasn't Clinton. No, I'm saying, well, are you defending

(25:00):
Bill Clinton in a bizarre and demented way? Yes, because
you've got he bounced the budget. We didn't deficit spend
on his watch. He took the Nu Gingrich and the
Republican Welfare Reform Act and he passed it into law.
He signed it into law. Uh, there was you know,
he was He said the era of big government was over.
He wasn't totally true, but it was a heck of
a lot it is now.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
You know, Barack Obama and Bill Clinton are kind of
like senior members of the Democratic Party. Is that fair
to say?

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Okay, old guard, Old Guard, do you know what the
latest trend is for grandma's what a grandmother makeover? Women
over sixty are getting more and more plastic surgery to
look younger and younger.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
I think I saw that with Hillary Clinton yesterday. I
saw some I do. I think, yeah, no, because she
had these lines on her eyes looked like it was
like your face had been pulled back a little bit. Yeah.
But I had to tell you, man, she scared the
daylights out of me. She used the word joy as
we elect them. But I thought laser beams were gonna
come out of her eyes. She was. She terrified me.

(26:04):
I took pictures of it on my phone because it
was so scary.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
SCAREDU lesson it is?

Speaker 3 (26:08):
It was.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
It was disturbing.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
All right. Now when we come back, we'll talk more
about what's going to happen tonight at the Democratic National Committee.
To stay with Rod and Greg on Talk Radio one
O five nine K n R S day two of
the National Democratic National Committee, KEEP one forgetting to Turn

(26:30):
on your life. Censors Censorship Censorship brought our cheat along
with Rod and Greg on Utah's Talk Radio one O
five nine K and are ass bringing you the latest
fast breaking news on the Kamala Harris campaign to be
President of the United States. Interesting story yesterday what happened

(26:52):
in good old Pittsburgh, and you have more information on
what actually happened.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
I have insight, I have inside people, I have eyes
on the ground, rod and ladies and gentlemen. I'm going
to add to a story that you've heard reported nationally.
I think I heard Sean Hannity the program before this
one talking speaking about this very incident. But I have
there is more to the story that I think is
worthy of your attention. So the story is this in Pittsburgh,

(27:20):
southwest Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania is one of these critical states that
need to be one. There's a popular diner called Primanny Brothers.
There's a number of these Primanny Brothers around the Pittsburgh
area and it's been reported accurately that I don't know
what time it is, but there's a Pittsburgh Pirates game
going on. So people love their sports. It's a drinking

(27:42):
town of the sports problem, you know, and it's it's Pittsburgh.
So a lot of people are watching the game, the
Pirate game, and all of a sudden, Primanny Brothers the
owners say, everyone, you got to get out. It's time
to go last call everyone out. And it's only three
thirty four, four o'clock and they're saying, we're watching the game.
What's going on? This has been rented out. The whole
the whole place has been rented out for a private event. Well,

(28:05):
that private event was a staged Kamala Harris going to
see the locals at the popular sandwich place. Okay, you're
Primani Brothers. So it was all staged, and so people
were really bothered a they were booted out of there.
Then social media had all the white vans of the
paid actors that were paid actors coming in there to

(28:27):
act like they were patrons to cheer her on because
they weren't going to risk actual going into a public
place and seeing what the reaction would be. Well, here, folks,
you have heard it here first on the Rod and
Greg show. I have eyes inside the Permanny Brothers this
particular restaurant when they came to film this so called visit.

(28:49):
So someone who was a server there is a server there.
I received this information the other night at the Primanny Brothers,
Kamala and the Pennsylvania Democrat National Committee came. Paid actors
came in and they racked up three five hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Of a food bill and did they pay the bill.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
They paid the bill, but they did not tip one dime.
There was not a tip for any of the servers,
any of the people that were serving. So the actors
eat like they're actually patrons eating. There was not thirty
five hundred dollars spent, not one tip given. The person
who this happened to personally, she says, that complains that

(29:32):
you know, Kamla, she's running on no tax on tips
because she doesn't tip. Okay, they had the guts to
say they maxed out their expense card. These real they
really care about the working class. Sure it was all
scripted everything we have it from inside the Primani brothers
that not only is it all scripted, they didn't tip

(29:54):
the people working inside there one red scent, isn't it?
Isn't that? Just like the Democrats in a nutshell and
Kamala Harrison not all pageantry. We're here for you and
at the end of the day they put the screws
to you.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Kepra corn One what it is? All right? Well tonight
tonight the Clinton's and the Obama show up at the DNC.
Of course, there's another effort on the part of the
Democratic Party to gaslight voters about what Kamala Harris is
all about. Joining us on our Newsmaker line right now
to talk more about that is Nicole Russell, a columnist
at USA Today. Nicole, great to have you on the show. Nicole.

(30:27):
Your article talking about this today began with a reference
to the Wizard of Oz and the great scene where
they pull the curtain back and the guy says, don't
pay any attention to the man behind the curtain. What
about the man behind the curtain when it comes to
Kamala Harris.

Speaker 8 (30:42):
You know, that's that's my personal opinion. I really do
think that's what's going to be happening this week as
audiences and you know, potential voters tune in. I think
there's a reason there's such a robust schedule of really
charismatic politicians. You have Barack Obama, it's going to be

(31:06):
speaking tonight, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton. I think that they're
kind of pulling out some of these really big charismatic names,
you know, really incredible orators politicians. I think that evoke
a lot of nostalgia for the Democratic Party because I
think they do want to be kind of serve as

(31:27):
a distraction for the real thing that's happening with the
Democratic Party right now, which is that they're just.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
A wreck, you know, and you're right, they are rolling
out the old guard, trying to maybe take some of
the attention off of what would this ticket actually propose
going forward? If you think back in nineteen ninety six
when Clinton was getting the nomination for his reelection, and
way back in ninety six in Chicago, what a different

(31:58):
time and what different policies. Clinton was what they called
a new Democrat. Back then, we had a balanced budget,
You saw government built tenements being torn down, private sector
investment coming in. You fast forward to twenty twenty four
and that nothing that that Clinton and maybe the new
Democrat platform from ninety six, can you find any evidence

(32:18):
of Now they're back to the government built housing. How
do people like Obama or Clinton who might have I
don't At least Clinton didn't have the same vision or
the same platform that Harris has. Are they How are
they getting in front of the American people trying to
say it's just like the good old days? I mean,
I guess why would they? Why would they when she's

(32:40):
not going to show well compared to what they did?

Speaker 8 (32:43):
Yeah, I agree, with what you're saying. I can't speak
for them or what they're thinking, but I do think
it was kind of a bit of a genius move.
You know, if you look at what's happened in the
last six months, and probably someday we'll learn that it
was going on a lot longer. Biden has been you know,
kind of falling apart before our eyes. He's been unwell.

(33:06):
We still don't really know what's going on, and we
really only saw this during the first debate between him
and Trump, and then out of nowhere, you know, we
have Kamala Harris taking over saying, you know, everything is fine,
I'm running now. And so I think, you know, Democratic
Party knows they can't they can't showcase all of this, uh,

(33:30):
and maybe they think voters will forget this timeline. But
if they pull out some of these nostalgic, charismatic people
that you're right, have very very different and far more
moderate policies, you know, for their record, maybe maybe voters
will kind of forget, and maybe they'll think, yeah, it's

(33:51):
gonna just be like yesteryear, and it's not going to be.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
And Nicole, as you point out, the media is going
right along with this with some amazing headlines and recent
articles on Kamala Harris like she is the second Coming
for crying out loud.

Speaker 8 (34:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, I really. I mean, I know, I
am a member of the media. I am an opinion columnist,
so maybe I'm slightly separate from, you know, from everybody,
and I am a conservative. People are always done to
see that. But it has been really frustrating to see,
I think, just the treatment of Kamala Harris versus say,

(34:28):
Donald Trump. And I'm not even really a Trump fean myself,
but you can see you can compare Time headlines or
you know, magazine pieces articles with just this absolute fawning
over Harris when she hasn't even done an interview, she
has not yet held up really to any scrutiny. And

(34:50):
then you know tomp has never received, you know, any
sort of halo above his head, you know, on a magazine.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
So it is really different.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
So Nicole, you are, by by self description and clearly
an opinion leaders as we need. We need opinion leaders
to put these columns out and point out some of
these things that are happening here. My question is she
when I watched the A lot of what you said
you said prior to the convention beginning, but we had
last night was night number one, and true to form,

(35:21):
the things that you predicted happened. She would like to run,
Kamala Harris would like to run as the as the opponent,
not as the incumbent. She's they're attacking Trump as much
as they can. She wants all the benefit of being
an incumbent, but she doesn't want to own any of
the of the bad record, and she wants to you know,
she wants to again keep making promises that don't really

(35:43):
reflect anything that she did while she's been on the clock.
So as an opinion leader, does that work? Is that
going to work in the rest belt? Is that going
to work in Wisconsin and in Michigan and in Pennsylvania?
Do you think the independent voters are going to hear
what they're saying that's so starkly different and then how
they've lived the last four years? Does this sell job

(36:03):
that's happening in this convention? Is this going to be
compelling and is it going to work?

Speaker 8 (36:08):
That's a great question. I wouldn't think that it would.
And I'm glad you mentioned the media piece because that's
kind of the only thing that makes me hesitate if
the voter just watches what's happening and asks themselves when
they're hearing a promise from Kamala Harris, you know, for example,
we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna lower inflation. Okay, she

(36:30):
hasn't said it in those words exactly, but something along
those lines. If anyone just asks themselves, Okay, well, that's
a great idea. I'd love to pay less for bread
and eggs.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Then where have you.

Speaker 8 (36:43):
Been the last four years?

Speaker 7 (36:45):
Why didn't this happen?

Speaker 8 (36:47):
Yes, why didn't you lower spending so that inflation would
go down? You know, the executive branch is obviously not
in any way powering the economy, but they can do
some things to help out, and they really haven't. So
I would hope that an independent voter or even a
moderate might look at that and just try to kind

(37:08):
of take some of the emotion maybe out of like
how good it feels to think that America might become
this democratic utopia, and actually ask themselves, if all of
these things were true, it would have happened in the last
four years, and it hasn't. So why hasn't it?

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, Nicole, thank you? For joining us. She makes a
she makes a great point. Right, So, Kamala Harris is
saying that if you elect me, I will make things work.
You've been in office already for four years. You haven't
done anything yet. What makes it different now?

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Stay one three and eight?

Speaker 1 (37:41):
I think?

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Is that what I've heard on the clock? Yeah, well, she.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Hadn't done anything. Now ye want to they'll fix inflation?
Yeah right? The Rod and Greg Show here on Utah's
talk radio onet oh five nine K and our ass
Rod Oerket along with citizen Greg Hughes. We've been doing
this now for three weeks. Do you know that? Well too,
kind of because I was off last week and you
were off the week before.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yeah. No, I was off the week before, week before
we did the game.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah yeah, you were off the week before we did
it for the first time.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
That was my family, big guy.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah yeah. And you're getting after me over vacation.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Well, your your level of commitment once we launched the
Rod and Greg Show just already started to wane.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Last week I didn't want to. I don't want to
be judging, but you know I was here you weren't.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah. Well there's that The Democratic National Convention is underway,
of course in Chicago Night two. Barack Obama, Bill Clinton
on the docket to speak tonight. But Donald Trump is
getting mentioned quite often, isn't he great?

Speaker 2 (38:42):
He is, as you might have heard if you heard
our interview with Liz Peak for commerce with fucking snooze
in this convention. It's an amazing thing. Rod. I mean
the border, which is one of the most front burner
issues that we're feeling across this country with fifteen million
undocumented people here and all of its consequences mentioned yesterday
eight times, crime, which is inherent to that issue, but

(39:05):
other issues as well, catch and release, kamalog having raising
bond money for people that are destroying things, on and
on that was mentioned crime and not in the context
it should have been mentioned. Was mentioned six times. Inflation,
another one of those front burner issues, the issue three times.
Now Donald Trump, who is not the incumbent, by the way,

(39:27):
is not the incumbent president running for reelection, but Trump
was named or mentioned a hundred and forty seven times
last night. Crime, six times, Border, eight times, inflation three times,
Trump one hundred and forty seven times. I guess that's
the platform forget what else they put out there.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, yeah, Well, someone on social media decided to have
a little fun from the convention last night and the
number of times that Donald Trump was in fact mentioned.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Donald Trump, Donald Trump, Donald Trump, Donald Trump, donald Trump,
donald Trump, donald Trump, Donald tr.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Trump, Donald Trump, donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
Donald Trump, Donald Trump, donald Trump.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
Trump Trump.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Who the hell does he think he is? Who does
he think he is?

Speaker 2 (40:10):
These people are sick. That's it.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
That's Trump's saying. These people are sick, and they are sick. Now,
a couple of things last night, before Joe Biden gave
his speech, I thought Chris Wallace, who used to be
a Fox News Now with CNN, basically went after the
DNC's attempt to show love to Joe Biden. This's what
Wallace said in this analysis of what he thought about
what the Democrats were doing to Joe Biden.

Speaker 9 (40:39):
The word that everybody is using to describe tonight as bittersweet,
it's just bitter the fact of matter. I'm not saying
Joe Biden is bitter, but you know, it's like you've
been thrown out a window and as you're falling, you go, gee,
it's nice out here.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
No, he got thrown out of window.

Speaker 9 (40:54):
And basically he was forced You know, there's gonna be
a lot of talk tonight about how generous it was
of him.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
And selfless of him.

Speaker 9 (41:04):
He was basically forced out by Nancy Pelosi and Barack
Obama and Chuck Schumer and Jakim Jeffries, and I suspect
even the fact that there has been this surge of
enthusiasm since he left and Kamala Harris took his place,
that's got to be pretty tough too. You've got thrown
out of a window and everybody's applauding the person who's
now in the room.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Great analysis, I think from like Chris Wallace, it is
you got thrown out the window, folks.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
And here again, this is the party that wants to
protect democracy. The first off, it's a republic, it's a
democratically elected republic. But does democracy democracy democracy talk. This
nominee did not receive a single single solitary vote in
any primary. She was just inserted. She was placed in
this spot. No one voted for her.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Well, there are a lot of Democrats very excited about
Kamala Harris, but James Carvell has been one who said,
don't get too excited as of yet. And last night
former Obama aid Van Jones, again on cn ED, had
this to say about the race between Kamala and Trump.

Speaker 10 (42:04):
This is the big opportunity to go from a tige
race to push our numbers up one point two points,
maybe three point. We come out of this convention with
a major bounce that puts US in their best possible
position after Labor Day.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
We don't want to be tied.

Speaker 10 (42:19):
I don't like being tied with Donald Trump because we've
had now twenty plus days of positive press. He's been
falling down the stairs, slipping on banana peals and pulling
himself in the eyeball.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
We should not be tied. We want to pull ahead.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
You see even Van Jones saying, you know, she's got
what twenty twenty seven days of positive press. Yes, she's
not pulling away.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
She's not there. War Warry's numbers are tough, they're resilient.
They've been hanging on people. I know a lot of
my friends have been worried saying, oh, look, she's coming
ahead a few points here and there. And I'm telling
you that Trump first in sixteen and twenty, those two elections,
he pulls low. He always over outperforms any of the
poll numbers you've ever seen for him. If that trend holds,

(43:01):
then that this lead is a very strong one, because
we've never seen him in this position in sixteen or
twenty where he's either leading or just behind by within
the margin of error. So Van Jones is not wrong
that they should be a lot further ahead, especially with
a media that has done nothing to call her out,
to ask her even a slightly hard or even a

(43:22):
specific question. But they can't keep doing that, and then
I think the pressure Rod honestly is going to build.
The more she stays silent, the more the pressure builds
that she's got to start answering questions. And I think
she's setting herself up because if you're not out there
talking issues on a more frequent basis, then the one
or two times you decide to do it, you better

(43:42):
hit it over the fence. And I don't know that
she has an enter to do that.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
You know what, I think they're waiting for. I think
they're waiting for that first debate. They're going to see
how she does in the first debate. If she does well,
then she'll sit down and do an interview, or she'll
do a news conference right. If she doesn't, I bet
they hide her right up until the election. I don't
know how they'll do, but they'll somehow. They'll make an
effort or someone very friendly to Kamala, someone like well,

(44:06):
any of the legacy networks are friendly to her, so
she didn't got to worry about any tough questioning.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
And look that you know as well as I do,
that the that the post debate commentary from the regime
meeta will be that she won it walking away. It
doesn't matter how poorly she performs. And in fact, I'm
convinced that if they wanted to keep Biden in that race,
they would have just said Trump lied through the whole thing.
Biden did a great job because they had been saying
that in his vacant answers and his you know, in

(44:34):
his way, he's been doing that for years. They just
decided to pounce on him for that debate. But he
looked pretty much like he had always looked.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
To me.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
At least they're going to say that Kamala Harrison did
such a phenomenal job in that debate. So yeah, she'll
get she'll get at least a narrative that she did well,
but I don't think we'll see. We'll see how good
or bad it really gets for her the more she
stays away from interviews.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
All Right, when we come back, we'll open up the
phones to you. We'd like to get some of your
thoughts on the first night of the Democratic National Convention
and what the media is doing on behalf of Kamala Harris.
That's coming up right here on the Rod and Greg
Show in Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine K
and RS Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine K
and rs Rod and Greg with you on this Tuesday

(45:16):
as they're heading home and join watching the Democratic National Committee.
Big night at the DNC. Barack Obama and Dougie that's
what Kamala calls her husband. Dougie is going to be
speaking at the convention tonight. Yeah, we call Dougie.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Dougie Fresh. That's what I'm calling now. She's going Dougie.
I'm saying fresh, well you fresh?

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Yeah. Last night last night at the convention, you know,
to show their their patriotic roots, how much they love
this country. Yes, the delegates started chanting USA, Usa.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Yes, and remember folks. The New York Times shared this
play the playbook with you that they are going to
use what they call the language of liberty to get
those uneducated white voters to vote for them. They say
it in the most condescending way. They don't mean it
that this language is just meant to just insert to
take the unclean, the the you know, the unlearned, and

(46:11):
get them to vote for their candidate. And they say
it just like that. And so then you hear us
a USA. And they are trying so hard to be patriotic.
Now remember remember Rod, they used to be a nationalist.
If you, if you loved American and you said USA,
and you and and and the flag was a symbol
of racism. But but now oh it's it's time to

(46:34):
chant USA.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Well Greg came across this on social media. This is
what what is this a women's because of the Democratic
National Committee.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
When you have a convention, you have during the day,
that means so they have a there was a Democrat
Women's caucus that was held earlier in the day in
in you know, in Chicago. And they just want to
really show their bona fides on how much they love America.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
So here's their rendition of the national anthem. Get ready
for Starspang Banner.

Speaker 11 (47:19):
Twilight Last Leave, Booze, broad Strive.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
It's just not going down. It's just just just stop
the tape already. We can't listen to them. Massacre of
the Star Spangled banner, a national anthem that bad. You
can tell they're well practiced. You can tell that star
rolled right off the time. They love this country, they
love the Star Spangled banner especially.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
They're real good at this. I don't know where you
found that, but you know, it's funny. They're all they're
all claiming to be you know, they love America. But
survey after survey after survey that you see anymore. When
a Republican and a Democrat or asked about patriotism, the
results are amazing. The Democrats about eighteen percent feel they're patriotic,
on the Republican side seventy five to eighty percent. It's

(48:09):
pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
I'm telling you. There is there There began before this election,
until they did the polling, there was, for I think
a couple of at least a couple of years, a
trend that if you had a hat that had the
American flag on it, if you were showing your patriotism
in any way, you were a racist, you were a nationalist.
You weren't patriotic, you were a nationalist, which was you know,

(48:30):
a moral failing, meaning that you prioritize your country over
the lives and well being of all others, being of
all and therefore it's a problem. Now No, now, now
they're proud to be Americans. Again. When I say again,
I'm talking maybe generation.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
But isn't it funny? Greg? And there's been a debate
for months going on now that if you if you
displayed the flag in any way like you were talking about,
either on a hat, the back of your pickup truck,
and you see a lot of those driving around yea
with big flags on it. You're omega.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Yeah. And people were complaining like why do I have
to see these American flags on these trucks? This is intimidating,
This is this is this is they're suggesting violence because
they're playing they have the American flag. Yeah, you know,
that's that's the the bladder that we've had to endure
that they have magically erased, you know, they somehow Biden
said that that Trump was trying to trouble Republicans, trying

(49:23):
to erase history. We hadn't tearing down statues. We're not
trying to erase any history like they've been doing. But
it is the case that we've been patriotic. We have
flags on hats, we we fly the flag, and now
they they know it's all the rage.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Now we should invite these women into a singing the
national anthem every day on our show. Now you're on
Utah's Talk Radi'll one oh five nine Kate and r
Ass coming up at six o'clock. Big move today, Greg,
And you know a lot about this by the state
of Utah when it comes to this, How long has
this been going on? This dispute between Utah and the

(49:58):
federal government over all the land here in the state
of Utah that they control.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (50:02):
He's sixty seven to seventy percent, right.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Yeah, We're sixty six percent federally owned land and the
Wasatch Front. That sounds that would be hard to believe
because the Wasatch Front is mostly not federally controlled land.
But think what that means. Then for the rest of
the state, you have you have some counties that are
eighty ninety percent federal land. Anyway, it's it has been
since the Sage Brush rebellion way back, in a way back.

(50:27):
Governor Mike Levitt argued on trying to get the control
and state sovereignty on this land. This is just this
has gone on for generation.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Bert Smith who used to own you know he's deceased
now Ran Smith and Edwards. Yeah, he was a big
mover behind this effort. He was and wasn't I think
former Governor Gary Herbert was involved in absolutely everyone.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
And even when I was when I entered the house,
Marty Stevens was the was the speaker, and there was
the Apple initiative. And this has been an issue that
has never gone away. And the reason why is when
most especially east of the Mississippi, when you become a state,
there was a federal trainansfer of land from territories to
the state they hit. It's like they hedged their bet
when they got the Utah and Nevada. They've kept most

(51:06):
of it. Most of the land in the state of
Utah is still under federal control. And it just beats
the tar out of Utah's who live in these areas
where the federal land is under the control. In Washington,
d C.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
And part of this effort, they showed the map if
you really want a clear illustration as to how much
land in the West is owned by the federal government,
it would blow you away. You go east to the Mississippi,
hardly anything.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Not at all. Yeah, And you know it's funny too,
because they used to sell the land they used to
the federal government, used to use it as revenue, and
then they had a federal income tax and they slowed
their role on transferring that land as well. It was
there's some history behind it. But at the end of
the day, you can't. Right now, seventy five percent of
our whole state lives in the Wasatch Front, which is
a valley. Because a lot of the state is so

(51:52):
is federal land owned. Where you're penned in, you can't
actually grow. This state needs to be able to grow
as a state. Twenty nine counties. You need access to
your land. They're shutting down these roads as we speak.
The Biden administration, you're getting even more aggressive. So time
is right.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
We are going to be talking about that after a
news update with Abby right here on the Rod and
Greg Show, Talk Radio one O five nine. An rs
Rod and Greg with you here on Utah's Talk Radio
one O five nine k and r Ass just unbelievable excitement.
Right now at the Democratic National Committee, they're going through
the roll call vote to nominate Kamala Harris to be

(52:28):
the Democratic representative to run for the White House. Magical
moment right.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Now, true to form, Just like the diner in Pittsburgh
where they booted everybody out and put their paid actors
in there and pretended it was like a spontaneous moment.
They did this on Zoom weeks ago before they nominated
Kamala Harris, before this ever happened. This is all just
again smoking mirrors. It's just pageantry. It doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
It's Kempricorn one.

Speaker 5 (52:53):
It is.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
It's the movie Capricorn one. But it's on the campaign side.
And again you know those floor they're can be a
floor flight, that floor fight that could are up there.
In twenty sixteen, Utah wasn't really convinced it wanted to
vote for Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
I think from this state unlessie Mike Lee, yes, who
really wanted a floor fight because he was behind dead
cruise of the time he.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Was and so that's where you saw that where the
action really was live back there. This what we're seeing
right now from the Democrat National Convention is a Joe Uey.
There's there's nothing real going.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
On, Huey. All right, Well, we've talked about this for
a long time on this show, about the federal government
and the amount of land that it owns here in
the state of Utah. Well, the state of Utah today
announced action to tell the federal government we want it back,
or at least some of it back, right, Greg, that's
what we want.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Yeah, it's it's a they we said before the break
the government, federal government when it was a territory and
we became a state. It's like they hedged their bet
and they did not do what states had typically seen done,
where the federal transfer of lands to states, and you know,
the state then moves on sixty sixty six percent of
the state encumbered by federal control, federal land management. We've

(54:04):
never had it, and it's and it's really penned us
in in really prohibitive ways, and it's getting worse with
this Biden administration.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Are you telling me the federal government has lied to us?

Speaker 5 (54:14):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Yeah, and they and they're super rude.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
They're just rude.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
They're rude. They rude, treat us like we're just a
bunch of heathens, like we don't not take care of anything.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Can joining us on our news Micael Line to talk
more about this. One of the movers and shakers behind
this movement. They have State Representative Kevin Stratton. Kevin, how
are you welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Great to join you again, Rod, And did hear your voice? Greg?

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Good to hear yours representative.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
You know what's sad? Representative? We get to hear his
voice every day.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Stratton tell him how lucky he is?

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Huh maybe, Oh, you know, we have blessed his life.
Sometimes we don't fully appreciate that. True.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Rod, Well, here you have me with a professional radio experience,
and then we get to hear Kermit the Frog every day.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
But you know what, but I got the institutional memory, pal, Yeah,
don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
All right, Representative, let's talk about this lawsuit. You've decided
to go right to the Supreme Court to argue this case.
Why is it so important in your opinion?

Speaker 3 (55:13):
Well, this is a critical critical day for us, for
our state, sovereigny, the well being and quality of life
of our state. As you mentioned in the segue, there
has been almost a hockey stick graft, just a tremendous
acceleration in what our federal counterparts how they're treating our
access to our public lands. And you look at what

(55:36):
is taking place in recent months, close to five hundred
miles of our public roads on the public lands closed.
There is this process. There's eleven travel Management Plan areas
in City Utah fighting eleven areas. They've acted on the
first two or three, and we're on an accelerated pace

(55:58):
to close thousands and thousands of acres, which means, as
those are closed to public access, you're closed to best
practices in the management and care and help and welfare
of those public lands. And certainly the traditions for generations
of the citizens of Utah, who we all just value

(56:20):
and cherish our public lands, and the opportunity to recreate
and be on those lands and enjoy the great lifestyle
we have is being closed off. And that's really one
of the heart and cornerstones, keystones of what we're trying
to do here with this lawsuit does not involve the
millions of appropriated acres already designated as national parks, national monuments,

(56:42):
wilderness areas, national force, tribal lands, military properties. So forth,
there will be a lot of those that are opposed
to this will try and hijack the narrative and misinform.
But if we're going to have integrity and have a
good faith, straightforward discussion on this, what we're talking about
is that eighteen and a half million acres of unappropriated lands,

(57:04):
and this is a real key issue for the health
and safety, welfare and quality of life in this wonderful
state that we have a blessed opportunity to live in.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
You know, represent of Stratton, I just want to share
for our listeners, you and I you've been fighting this
fight for quite quite a long time. When probably eight
years ago, we were back in Washington, d C. Together
the two of us with Utah leaders, trying to explain
to Republicans. We were on the Farriage Foundation Heritage Foundation

(57:36):
had a panel on federal lands. Grover Norquist, who's been
a guest on this program, has his Leave us Alone Coalition,
which is every right of center coalition, conservative coalition, hundreds
of people in the room, the two of us, we
would explain to people what is happening in people's lives,
name communities, lives with the federal government that has such
a severe control over the land, whether it's grazing, permits,

(57:58):
recreational access, name it and stopping this from happening. It
really opened the eyes for a lot of people there.
It's been a long road. I left the legislature wondering
if any of that would have ever made a difference.
What have you done as a leader to really see
a day like this where we are ready to petition
the Supreme Court for true legal and judicial decision to

(58:20):
have access to this land. How did you get here?
Because when I left Kevin, I was feeling down. I
felt like we weren't getting anywhere.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Well, thank you for the question, Greg. As you know, Al,
we've spent many years preparing to be wise stewards of
our public lands. We have an infrastructure in our state,
a legislative infrastructure that is far. It is unsurpassed, far
and far, leaps and leaps and bounds have had anything
that's been done anywhere else in the country. For example,

(58:49):
each we have established resource management plans for every county
in our all twenty nine counties. And what that means
is we took we water, wildlife for us, all the
natural resources and all the resources in each county went
through significant and aggressive years of vetting and science and

(59:14):
put together this is what we ought to be doing
with our public LANs. We have that piece in place.
We've looked at the financial aspect of it, We've looked
at the legal aspect of it. We've looked at everything
down the line to really do a thoroughly do what
we need to do our due diligence on this. And
it's remarkable to see how this is respond and as

(59:36):
we communicate that, As you said, Greg, BACKDC, the light
turned on. It was like I remember a friend, a
choice choice friend from England came to America. We started
showing the nation parks and this friend said, I cannot
believe how vast it is. You get back eash, You
talk about eighteen and a half million acres, multiple sizes

(59:57):
of the state of Connecticut. Source is the topic here,
and it's just it's just like the light bulb comes on.
But what I will tell you both that the thing
that's helped us the most has been the actions and
and policy direction of our federal counterparts. They have they

(01:00:17):
have given a soft pitch after soft pitch after soft
pitch over the last several years. That we finally have
gotten to the point where we have the governor, our
Attorney General, the Speaker, the Senate President, you have our
federal delegation. I have never witnessed in this whole dialogue

(01:00:39):
over twelve fifteen years we've been working on this, the
absolute complete mindset being completely unified across the board on this.
And this is a question that again it's it's ripe.

(01:00:59):
It is is because it's a conflict between the state
and the federal government. It can come and should come
under original jurisdiction Supreme Court of the United States, so
that the filing has gone directly the Supreme Court, and
we're hoping that they'll take it up in this next
this next session, that they'll put on the docket and
take it up. So that's that's that's the game plan.

(01:01:22):
And we have other states that are anxious and willing
to join it and be involved in supporting that. So
we'll see how it plays out.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Well, we're hopeful that it plays out because I think
there's a real opportunity for the state of Utah and
this representative. Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Thank you, it's great to be with you. And let
me just in closing and just say this is about
families and citizens of this state of Utah having access
to the public lands and when they get there that
we're not it's not a chart chart destroyed resource. That
the beautiful, vital life that we've been so blessed with.

(01:02:01):
We want to be why stewarts and the message is
let Utah manage the public land.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
So here we go into that. Representative Kevin Stratton.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Thank you so much for your leadership and your good work, Representative,
and thanks for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
I have may we talk about this? What value you
know in all this land? I mentioned this earlier. What
is in that land that would be really valuable to
the state of Utah, Well other than the land itself.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Yeah, Well, first off, you have you have generations of
families and communities that have accessed that land just natural,
and they're they're shutting down those roads. So there's just
the ability to in a community that's rural, to travel
around your county that they that they are shutting down.
I mean, if the federal government has eleven travel management
plans and they've only implemented, if Biden's only been able

(01:02:46):
to implement three of those eleven plans, and that's already
taken over five hundred plus miles of rural Utah and
taking it away from Utah's imagine what the other eight
travel management plans would do. But here's the other thing
rod we have. This cannot continue to see seventy five
percent of its whole population in the Wasatch Front in
the valley. If you live in this Wasatch Front, you

(01:03:09):
don't want to see the cruel irony that people that
live in rural Utah because they can't grow. Because they
can't they're so penned in federally by the lands, they
have to move somewhere else. It just adds to the congestion,
the lowering of quality of life in Utah and Wassatch Front,
the higher cost of living. These rural counties should be
able to grow naturally, and we are gerrymandered. We can't

(01:03:31):
grow by way of population. When these counties are so constricted.
Ten percent of a county's area population is all they
have to be able to grow. So now people are
leaving those rural areas. It's time for this. This is
long overdue, frankly. But the thing that represents Stratton mentioned
to have everybody on the same page, because that was

(01:03:51):
one of the challenges. Everybody had their own plan on
how to tackle this. Everybody's on the same page, and
we got a pretty good Supreme Court I think would
give it a fair shake.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Crossed find out this fall if they're going to pick
up the case. All right, More coming up on the
Rod on Greg Show Talk Radio one oh five nine knrs.
You walk on the wild Side. If you listen to
rythan Greg, we're.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Talking about this show.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Yeah, looking on the wild side. This is an important,
important moment for the state of Utah to move this
now to the Supreme Court. I remember working up in
Idaho years ago when they were talking about this, like
the late seventies where they were talking about a sage
brush rebellion.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
And if you go back to that time and look
at what Utah's population looked like back then, and how
how how constricted we were and how hard it was
even back then, and now you see the population growth
of the state today and you see that we are
still under those same constraints and penned in the way
we are.

Speaker 11 (01:04:43):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
It is a monumental moment. It's hard to so why
on this show that I liked to invite like we
have Washington counties commissioners come on. They've had agreements on
lands that the Biden administration, you know, renegged on and
took back after they had agreed to it. And the
reason why is because this is impacting your lives in
our own counties if we live along the West Stch Front,

(01:05:05):
because this is where people move, because there's nowhere to
go in these other counties. They cannot you can't put infrastructure,
you can do you can't do fiber, you can't do
anything anything. There's nothing you can touch that land within
they're getting worse about it. You at least used to
be able to access it through the federal government through
permits in the past. They're shutting those down.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Was the final straw here greg the road closures by
the Biden administration. Yes, do you think finally someone said, okay,
we got to stop this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Yes, but the Biden administration has gotten so unbelievably aggressive,
even more so than we didn't think you could get
more aggressive every time. When Clinton left office, he used
UTAH as in ATM and gave more national monuments to
the environmentalists with the Staircase escalante, and then you had
Biden or Obama do the same thing with Bear's ears
at the you know, at the end of his administration,

(01:05:55):
seeing our lands just handed over like that. By the way,
Alaska has a they can't do. To Alaska, they can't
do it, I think to Wyoming they have their own laws,
federal laws.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
M I remember it saying, wait, Manitte, you've got two states.
They can't do anything too.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Yeah, they went and got there, they went and protected
their own states. Well, what's about the rest of us?
But that was bad enough. But now you've got these
these road travel management plans that are just taking historic
generate multi you know, just generational access to the lands
of people's communities, and they are just closing them down
right in front of them. And I'll tell you what
I talked to people in rural Utah. You can say

(01:06:31):
that you're going to take away a family and there
are ten generations that have been on land away from them.
They're not going easy. So there's I mean, this is
something that really needs to get sorted out. There really
needs to be a this has to have serious consideration.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Well, isn't this what One of the reasons why the
Supreme Court was set up initially was to adjudicate cases
between states and the federal government. And that's what that's
what's going on right now. Right got the State of
Utah going to the Supreme Court and saying, hey, our
government's not playing fair here. We need to you know,
and let's go way way back. I mean, why did

(01:07:05):
they do this to us but not to other states?

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
And you know, the environmentalists and the leftists used to
say back in the Sagebrush Rebellion and even earlier in
Utah's history, Look, the state of Utah couldn't manage this
land if they wanted to, they say they wanted, but
they won't be able to do it. Guess what, we're
our population at three and a half million people, we're
brimming at this. We're bursting at the seams. And we
have the ability and we have state land management plans

(01:07:29):
now that know how to do this, and we frankly
need to do it as a state. If we're going
to grow responsibly, we cannot keep shoehorning everybody in to
one little spot in the state.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Yeah, and that's what's taking place right now. Yeah, good
way to describe it. We're being shoehorned in here and there.
We are there no place to go. Anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Yeah, we've checked the box on growth I think around here.
But that's why this is, you know, seeing five hundred
plus miles of road and they're just getting started being
shut down and the rest of this state is just
unacceptable on every level.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
What I like about this today, and it was pointed
out by Kevin Stratton and you've pointed it out as well,
there really does appear to be a united front finally
in the state as to the direction this is going.
Because there have been factions within the state. We need
to do this, we need to do this. Certain politicians
have had their own ideas as to how to make
this work. This seems to be united once and for all.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
The first Honestly, it's the first time I've seen all
of the stakeholders, our governor, a legislature, its House, its Senate,
the attorney General of our senator or US senators are
members of Congress, all on the same page. I've you'd
think that'd be easy to do, given the consequence of
not having a game plan, but we've not been able
to get there. And now we're finally there, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Mare Coming up on The Rodden Greg Show in Utah's
Talk Radio one o five to nine knrs.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Last half hour of the Rodding Greg Show. This show flies,
it really does. It goes so fast. We've got so
much information, so much to share, so much to talk about.
We're in the last half hour here on Talk Radio
one A five to nine. Cannais she is no official, man,
she was official a couple of weeks ago. This whole,
this whole every state voting this this is absolute fiction.

(01:09:06):
This is this is just blue screens and mirrors and
Capricorn won the movie election campaign presidential campaign style.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
They're doing the roll call vote where they go to
each state and dedicate their delegates, and she passed. She
needs uh, let's see, she need to a nineteen hundred
and seventy six delegates to win. She now has twenty
four to seventy. But like you said, this was decided.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
They already voted on this two weeks ago. This is
to make sure there was no glitches. They just didn't
want to have any kind of floor fight. They didn't
want anything, so they they changed the rules because they're gonna,
you know, because they're gonna defend democracy and they're not
even gonna have a you know, a floor convention. That's
actually legit, they're gonna, They're gonna. They did it on zoom.
They literally did this on zoom before the convention.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Well, it is a magical makeover of Kamala Harris is
what is referred to. It is absolutely all magic. How
what twenty twenty seven days ago nobody liked her and
all of a sudden she's the Queen Bee. Oh, didn't
mean to bother Queen Bee.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Yeah she's not. She's a want to be Queen Bee,
but she's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
A want to be Queen Bee. Well, joining us on
our newsmaker line to talk about this amazing transformation is
Aaron McIntyre, a host of The Aaron mackintyre Show, also
a columnist at The Blade Orin. Thanks for joining us tonight.
Let's talk about this makeover. How surprised are you with
what you've seen and the media's treatment of Kamala Harris.

Speaker 7 (01:10:28):
You know, I just wrote a book called The Total
State about the way in which a vast amount of
the power that is supposed to be vested in our
in our government through the Constitution, has been moved into
institutions like the media. How the medium manipulates public opinion
and democracy to create and centralize power for the government.

(01:10:48):
And even after that, watching the amazing turnaround of this
person who was so awful that she was relegated to
the kids table for the entirety of the Biden presidency.
They couldn't even let her go to events with students
because she would embarrass herself because she was so bad
in public. That this person has now been turned into
this social media sensation that is just revitalizing the Democratic Party.

(01:11:11):
It's such a.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Joke that the only way this could possibly ever work
is if you had control of the vast majority of
media islets that are all willing to march in lockstep.
Fortunately for the Democrats, that's exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
What they have, you know. And the joy, you know,
just the joy of it all. You know, there's so
much joy with this, with this ticket and with Kamala Harris.
So this is, I think, to your exact point for me,
this is how bad it is. The late night talk
show hosts were at Liberty to rip on Kamala Harris.
I mean they weren't they weren't nice. I mean there

(01:11:42):
is just video you can just put it next to
each other of them mocking her that I can't remember
what even Colbert was comparing ratings to like, you know,
Batman versus Superman was a higher rating than Kamala Harris.
They used to rip per without pause, and now she
is the greatest thing. I guess my question, Oran is

(01:12:07):
because we have the video evidence, because you see there
are people that were really accurately describing her as benign
and not really ready for this job, having one of
the lowest approval ratings for a vice president we've seen
in modern days. Can can with a few days left,
you know, we don't have a lot of time in
this selection. Can can the public here and realize that
this is just this is a show, This is pageantry,

(01:12:30):
This is not real. She is not as great as
they're saying by virtue of what they said not all
that long ago. Can we get that message out or
can that message get out?

Speaker 7 (01:12:40):
Well, that's the tension that's happening right now. I think
between old media and new media. Obviously the left dominates
old media and a good amount of new media, but
the new media does have enough conservative and right wing
voices that can regularly break through, especially now that there
are platforms like Twitter or x whatever you like. I

(01:13:00):
must is calling it today that really can shatter that
narrative in a meaningful way. The thing for the Democrats
is they used to put up at least semi competent
actors as candidates, so you didn't have to cover as much.
Say what you want about Hillary Clinton. She's an evil
human being, but she is competent. You don't have to
spend a lot of time pretending that she's competent. She

(01:13:22):
can get things done, even if they're evil things. This
is just not true, Kamala Harris. And so they're doing
this full court press. They're trying to remake her, but
they're working with a much worse just baseline substance than
they had previously with someone like Hillary Clinton. And on
top of that, they have the level of disintermediation that
comes from the new media breaking through routinely through this

(01:13:45):
hedge amount of control the less you used to have.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
There's still a lot of power in the legacy media.
There's still a lot of power in the kind of
attention they can manufacture. But I think there's a better
chance than ever that people can see the truth because
of the amount of video and of things like you're
talking about that can come out on platforms that are
not routinely censored.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Does will Is there enough pressure on her now in
your opinion or on that she sooner or later has
to sit down with one of the major networks and
do a one on one interview and at least possibly
do a news conference as well. Is the pressure mounting
for her to do something like that?

Speaker 7 (01:14:21):
Well, unfortunately, the pressure would normally come from the press,
And if you had a press. The problem is if
you had a press that was at least self interested primarily,
then they would at least be chasing that story, if
only to aggrandize themselves and maintain their own importance. But
it's very clear at this point that the media's primary
goal in life is to deceit Trump. They would literally

(01:14:42):
sacrifice their children to defeat Trump. We saw this with
mobile abortion mans at the DNC event, like, this is
what is happening right now? And so are these people
going to force Kamala Harris to the table? No, I
wouldn't expect it. I mean it's possible, you know, there
could be enough. I mean there the media did eventually
turn on Joe Biden after protecting him four years, So

(01:15:05):
there is the chance that a preference cascade could cause.

Speaker 5 (01:15:08):
This or that.

Speaker 7 (01:15:09):
Media, feeling like it lost some percentage of its power,
might be willing to force her to go to the table,
but I wouldn't bet on it. I think she can
go ahead and set up these interviews where she's very
highly protected listening. These people already on her side, So
she may eventually put herself in a place where a
very favorable reporter goes ahead and does something like this.

(01:15:29):
It does it does a one on one so that
she can say, oh, look I did it, and I
stop talking about it. But I would not expect her
to sit down with someone who's actually going to ask
her any substantiate questions.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
So you know, there's one hundred percent agree with with
the unreasonable and actually surprising if you think about power
that the regime media has over the public at large everyone.
If you pull them, they'll say, we don't trust the media,
But truly, whatever narratives they push out there, we tend
to hear ping back to us from everyone. They have
enormous power. However, with all that said, when they when

(01:16:01):
they when law fair erupts and they go after Trump
criminally and they convictim of crimes that have never been
crimes before, you see the polls and you see, you know,
go into make Trump more popular. It doesn't bring him
down as they would have imagined it. Even I don't
think what I don't know very many Americans that take
seriously all the different charges that they've gone after Trump.

(01:16:23):
So what I'm hoping for, what I'm burning a candle for,
is there's some common sense out there that when they
see something that just smells bad and looks bad, that
they're not gonna They're not gonna take it. So the
question is, forget being conservative, what about common sense? How
has the last four years been for you? Is the
complete lack of any public policy or whatever policy she's

(01:16:43):
mentioned looking awfully like Cuba or communist regime? Is that
just going to permeate with common sense people in this country.

Speaker 7 (01:16:53):
I'm gonna be honest this. It might not be a
popular answer, but after twenty twenty and the pandemic, the riots,
I'm not betting heavily on common sense. After watching, after
watching people who my entire lives have talked about restraining

(01:17:16):
government and you know, the First and Second Amendment and
everything that was going to keep tyranny from coming. Uh.
You know, my faith is not heavily placed in this.
And again I go into this a lot in my
book The Total State, about the reason that the media
has gained such a stranglehold, all of the ways that
we have broken the bonds that used to tether us
to comments that things like family, things like community, things

(01:17:38):
like church and tradition, these sources of knowledge that were
outside of media. This epistemology that was much more complex
has been has been worn down to where now, like
you said, even when people say they don't believe the media,
they get almost all of their opinions from it. Even
conservative media in many ways, is just the moon to
the sun of liberal media. It's just, you know, it's
just reflecting many of that much of that light back

(01:18:01):
in a different que And so I think, you know, ultimately,
like I said, the key really is that disintermediation. It
really is that break in narrative from platforms like X
or others that can allow a different story to enter
in so that the media does not have this model
to control of truth for people. I think that is
the key.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
I hope that that restores the ability for common sense
to take hold, because there's no longer this unbroken string
of propaganda there's something else coming in allowing people to
have a separate type of knowledge that will show them,
Oh no, there's a truth out there beyond. Even if
I disagree with what's being placed on the screen, there's
another level where I can find that it's not just disagreement.
They're outright lies. These are manipulations the Suspin manufactured to

(01:18:44):
make me feel a certain way.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
Aaron McIntyre he right for The Blaze talking about the
magical media makeover of Kamala Harrison. I was, you know,
my concern is that if she wins, how powerful the
media will become in this country. Because the media will
learn something that they can choose who they want, They

(01:19:07):
present her in a very positive light, and the American
people will buy it hook line and sinker.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
I have never heard anyone say this the way Orange
just said it in this interview, but and I believe
it's true, he said, even the conservative media. So let's
let's imagine the Bright Barts or Fox News, whatever you one.
They are the moon to the regime media's sun, meaning
they are reacting to that narrative. They are parroting back

(01:19:35):
that what the media is pushing out there. And I
believe that we've talked about it. If anyone thinks that
that debate performance from Joe Biden was the first time
we've seen him vacant and unable to perform, like the
media wants to tell everybody is the case. It is
not the case. And yet we say it. And when
I say we, I mean they people talk about this

(01:19:58):
on the premise that the media is I wish that
this was an awful performance that they could know they
could not defend. That has been his performance for three
and a half years, it really has, and so I
think they've been incredibly persuasive by Hooker Crook. However, they
get eighty one million votes, which Barack Obama can only
get sixty million, and you know, and Biden and his

(01:20:19):
basement got twenty one million more. I don't know. I
just think it's uh. I just think that you had
they they are going if she were a Kamala Harris
were to win this thing, it's the it's theirs. It's
weird Republican win.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
Again. I want to mention this, Greg I mentioned it
to you a little bit earlier before we got on
the show. Today, a man by the name of Andrew
and Giefsky. Andrew was a young guy who ran a
website called Open the Books dot com. And he did
a lot of great work looking into public records and
exposing you know, using the Freedom Information Act. And he
was the one who exposed Anthony fauci as to how

(01:20:55):
much money he was making.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
Yeah, he did a great job. He died over the weekend.
Was he was he elderly, you know, Andrew was maybe
in his early fifties. Wow, that's shocking. Yeah, got over
the weekend and we we had an interest.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Maybe he opened up too many books Andrew.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
Andrew would shoot us notes all the time and hey,
here's some new information, you would say a look at.
We had him on the show quite often. And I
saw this note today that he passed away over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
That's sad. That's really sad. Now, you know, that's like
when Andrew Breitbart just killed over had a heart attack
coming out of a bar late at night. And I'm thinking,
how does that happen to the good guys.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
When up your numbers up right now?

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
Hey, By the way, Jady Vance said today at this
press coverage that they held they held He thinks that
they probably held the convention in Chicago, so that Tim
Walls could accurately say he's been in a war zone.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
That's a great lot.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
That's good. That's it is, Andrew, I think, and yeah,
I I I'm going to I'm going to pace myself better,
ladies and gentlemen tonight. I'm gonna try and watch so
I can draw some conclusions. But I cannot just go
a head first like I did yesterday. It was brutal.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
I'm still not over it. I I We've got Bill,
We've got a rock on the docket.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
Tonight, and I tell you that Hillary Clinton scares the
daylights out of me.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
That was that was, Yeah, it was, it was. It
was a bad moment. So I'm gonna try. I'm gonna
try very hard, but.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
Hang in there. Yes, all right, we'll talk to you tomorrow. Everybody,
head up, shoulders back. May God bless you and your
family and this great country of ours. Thanks for listening
to the Rod and Greg Show. We're back tomorrow. It's
have a good evening.

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