The Rod and Greg Show: Non-Maga Conservative Voting Trump, Social Unrest if Trump Wins

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We'll have our Minute to Win It Monday edition next Monday.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
You know, I'm already getting emails on this. Are you gad?
When are you doing the Minute to Win It thing?
Or how do I call in to be a part
of it? So that'll be a week from today, six
BM hour, last hour of the show next month.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
You just do it for an hour. I thought it
was the whole show.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
There are many candidates out there, all right, just one hour?

Speaker 3 (00:23):
All right?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
He Who am I to complain? I'm the new guy.
I'm just I'm just taking notes. I'm just trying to
get it right.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
You're just learning.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
But but boy, I'll you Mondays are fun when we're
an election season because there's so much that happens over
the weekend. And you know, I will tell you and
it won't be a surprise to our listeners. I think
Trump won the news cycles throughout this weekend. I think
he dominated all the all the all the talk. And
by the way, when the regime media puts out a
negative headline, nobody that's matters. That's that's if they're still undecided.

(00:54):
The mainstream, you know, just the everyday American. Nobody's reading
the New York Times to give a wit what its
headline says about the Madison Square Garden rally.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
So we don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
But I'll tell you this, Google searches off the chart
about the rally. Everybody was curious about it. I think
it was great, hilarious and uh. And then you have
the Sunday News stocks where JD.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Vans. It is like, yeah, don't.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
I mean, these journalists are coming to a gunfight with
like a plastic spoon. They have no shot against JD.
Vans And it is beautiful to watch. So it's always
fun on Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Well, and you know, this weekend was amazing. Seventy five
thousand people showed up at Madison Square Garden. Only well
I just couldn't get in. You'll imagine that seventy five
thousand people. You know, they just showed up. There is
one to be part of something that I think is
taking place in this country right now.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
There are people that are New Yorkers that live close
to Madison Square Garden that are that they're trying to
be as fair and just without bias about who they
want to win. Remarked, I read this that the that
the Maison Square Garden red white and blue that's kind
of the Rangers colors. So it felt like a hockey
game atmosphere, but that instead of any sports gear, which
everybody wears for the game, everybody was in Maga hats

(02:08):
and it felt like it felt like a sporting event,
or you know, as if there's ever been one in
New York City.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Did you know that John F. Kennedy and Jimmy Carter
are Nazis?

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Mark, because they held events at Madison Square Garden. I
think the Party at one time or over the years
has had their national convention at Madison Square Garden. So
can we say every one of those events are Nazi related,
because that's what they tried to do to Trump this weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
You know, it's such a contrived narrative, and it's one.
It's an old one. It's an old trope, it's an
old excuse they've always used. They have nothing in the
closing days to make for a serious case, so they're
just opening up this dusty dusting off this old playbook.
They're just if we can just say Nazi and fascist enough.
But I think it's really backfiring, especially with two assessed

(02:57):
attempted assassinations on President Trump. I think people think that
language is so reckless and so wrong, And so I
don't think that the media is helping Kamla the way
they wish they were helping her.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
No, that's for sure. That's for sure. Well, we've got
a lot to get to today. Of course, we've got
Oh we have eray. Is this our final week of
Billy Joel tickets? Yep, that's our Is it final week
of giving you a chance to win a pair of
tickets to see Billy Joel and Sting in concert. You
have to play Name that Tune with Rod and Greg
and we'll do that during the show sometime this afternoon.

(03:29):
We'll also talking about getting ready for a Trump victory.
How nervous are they in the nation's capital. We'll talk
about that. And it was sixty years ago yesterday that
Ronald Reagan gave his famous A Time for Choosing speech,
But it still resonates today, and we'll talk with a
with a historian or Reagan historian about that and why
he thinks it is in fact, still resonating with people today.

(03:52):
So we've got a lot to get to today, Greg.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
We do.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
And I'm going to tell you that we're going to
continue to dissect this election.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
It's an.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
I know we don't have enough time in our first
opening segment to get into it, but I'm going to
tell you that when you hear some of the inspirational
things that President Trump said, because look, there were a
lot of speakers, and I know they want to take
some comedian and we can show you other comedians that
have said things and nobody cares what they said in
the past about Democrats or at Democrat rallies. This is
selective outrage, selective logic. But when you get to President

(04:22):
Trump and he what his message was for the American people,
it is a closing argument, and it is inspirational, and
it is a campaign of addition that is not abandoning
any of the principles of America being great again, but
it's bringing people along. So you're not becoming a modern
You're not sitting on a fence trying to be all
things to all people. His vision is really drawing more

(04:44):
and more people. And it's you know, I fight against overconfidence,
but I gotta tell you, it just feels like that
he's got the big mo and in sports and everything
else in campaigns, you want to have that momentum on
your side going into the final week.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Final week, he'll be im pedsful for the Ohio State
Penn State game on Saturday. That'll be a lot of fun. Now.
On the other side, of course, Kamala Harris misleading people
at the end of last week, Beyonce was going to
show up at her big rally in Houston, which nobody
understood why she's campaigning in Houston to begin with. But

(05:19):
she's telling everybody come in. Beyonce is going to be there, right,
so people assume what that Beyonce is going to put
on a little mini country.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
It's even more they were the media was saying that
Beyonce was going to perform. Now they either they either
assumed themselves wrongly or they were wink wink, not not told.
But they said there would be a performance from Beyonce.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yes they did, as in fact they did. And she
comes out on stage, says a few nice words, says
I do Indoor, I do indoors Kamala for president and
walks off. Foy did the booze start well?

Speaker 1 (05:52):
But there was a stellar performance. Will Buy Willie ninety
one year old Willie Nelson did not. He came up
and he's going to perform. I told you over the
weekend I had an analogy. I've got a better one.
If you went to if you were on a vacation
and you went to the rental car place, you got
all your kids in tow, and you went and rented
an suv so you can fit your luggage and your
kids in, and they tell you, you know what we've got.

(06:13):
We've got a nineteen seventy eight two door Chevy Chavette, sir,
for you to drive right off this part of this lot. So, yeah,
Willie Nelson to me, is the Chevy Chavette versus the
full you know, full uh, the full length suv for
your vacation. They kind of got a bait and switch.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah yeah, no, yeah, any Rate says he'd rather hear Willie.
I think there are a lot of people out there
with rather here, Willy, you'd rather have the Chevy Chavette
eight like the chev V Chevette. Now before we break, now, folks,
I just want to be we just want to share
this with you. The Dems are reaching unbelievably low points
in a campaign greg to try and win back men.

(06:49):
Would you agree, I mean they're doing everything they ca
they're trying you ready for this. Well, apparently there is
a Democratic group out there that has spent about two
and a half million dollar running this ad in every
swing state in the country. This can make you throw
up get ready for the war. We'll explain it. We'll
just warn you. But what this ad is, it's a

(07:10):
new digital ad showing a young man pleasuring himself. That's
the best way to put it. He's pleasuring himself right
watching porn on his digital phone, and then he's interrupted
by a Republican listen to this. Oh sorry, you can't
do that. What the hell, man? How'd you get in here?

Speaker 4 (07:32):
I'm your Republican congressman. Now that we're in charge, we're
banning born nationwide.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
You can't tell me what to do. Get out of
my bedroom. You creat.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
I won the last election, so it's my decision. I'm
just going to watch and make sure you don't finish illegally.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Is that the most cringe worthied ad you have ever heard? Greg?
I want to know.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
I want to do the listeners think it was the
craziest thing on earth for them to put this ad together.
Think this would attract men young men to their cause?
Or are we the craziest radio host in the world
for actually airing that commercial on the air, because I'm
actually kind of debating in my head which was worse
actually hearing it in these headphones or them putting it

(08:16):
out there.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
It's just terror. It's just discussed. Well, this is how
low they there are no bounds on the Democrats. They
so desperately do not want to lose power. They will
do anything, including creating an ad like this and running it.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Now.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Let's see. Now, let's let's say so, let's see you're
sitting at home and your children are watching TV and
they go, what's that ad all about? Mom and dad?
And you have to explain it?

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Ye, and no good likely to be terrible by the way,
that there was not a congress that was an illegitimate
Republican congressman that was stage. Yeah, it's a great time.
It's a great time to be alive. Great campaign is
rolling along. I'm excited. I'm optimistic. I'm guarding against being
too optimistic, but you gotta love it.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well, you know, after Kama lives to all their supporters
in Houston's and Beyonce's going to be here for a performance,
and you know she shows up for five minutes and
takes off.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
And then that ad you played in the last segment
that is so gross. I mean, I if that is
the best they've got, Okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
And then you had a couple of weeks ago Barack
scolding black men, young black men for now supporting Kamala
and then over the weekend you've got Michelle Mochelle.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, I thought that might have been a misstep on
his part. It's actually a thing. Now they're gonna shame you.
They're going to demand your vote. You don't even get
a chance to choose, you know, you're not entitled to
have an opinion. You do as they say, and that's
a shocking there.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, let's talk about the F word. No, not that one, everybody.
We're talking about the one that the Democrats just love saying.
Maybe they just like saying this word fascist. They do.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
They do they because they're guilty of everything they accuse
others of. It's their favorite place to be, it's what
they aspire to be.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
So yeah, let's talk more about that. Our next guest
now is David Devil. David is a senior contribut as
a matter of fact, at The Imaginative Conservative He also
writes for AMAC and it's great to have David back
on the show. David, how are you, and welcome to
the Roddin Greg Show. Thanks for joining us, Thanks for
having me. I'm doing very well. Let's talk about the

(10:14):
political f word. Is it backfiring? Do you think, David
on democrats?

Speaker 5 (10:19):
I think it is. I think people are realizing that
it doesn't mean anything at best for them, and at worst,
I think it's reminding people of how much authoritarian stuff
that they did in terms of censoring the Internet, crazy
COVID regulations, attacking their political enemies through the legal system.

(10:42):
I think it's I think it's a big mistake. And
I'm not the only one, because I discovered this morning
that on the same day that my article came out,
one came out in the New York Times about how
the big pro Harris Superpack is worried about this because
they say it's not working either.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Do you think that some of this might also be
that that that we've had two attempted assassinations on former
President Trump. It has always looked at that people that
are deranged or willing to do something like this, or
fed something that made them get to a place where
they do it. And so when the first assassination attempt occurred,
people said, we need to tone down this, this rhetoric,

(11:19):
this has gotten over the top. This is we need
to really be serious about this issue, the issues here,
and there was kind of a somber moment in this country.
Now that they are finding themselves not gaining any ground,
they're going to that you know, the hyperbole and they're
really reckless and dangerous language that they're throwing at President Trump.
Now is that off putting to Americans just having lived

(11:40):
through this campaign season and you know terribly two assassination attempts?
Are they connecting those dots or has the media effectively
buried the assassination stories?

Speaker 5 (11:52):
Well, I think the media has buried it to a
certain extent. But the fact that there's there have been two,
and there were possibly a third one, you know that
maybe that one wasn't really one, But the fact is
that people are aware of this. So I think that
probably is very off putting, uh, you know to ordinary
American especially once who remember, you know, years ago when
Gabby Giffords from Arizona was was shot and they blamed

(12:16):
it all on Sarah Palin, you know, putting up a
sign that said, you know, we've got we've got her
in the target, you know, and this was supposed to
be inciting violence. Well, if that's inciting violence, I think
calling people Hitler and telling them that they're going to
destroy the country is is even more more inciting.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
David, There's there's so much more behind this. You've you know,
you've got this term of the fascists. But do you
think American people are still taking into account the legal
battles that have brought on have been brought on by
the Democrats and the Biden White House against Donald Trump,
And is that affecting their thinking as well?

Speaker 5 (12:51):
David, Yeah, well, I think I think I think people
are realizing that this stuff is garbage, you know. I mean,
even with that first case, you know in New York,
even CNN had contributors saying, you know, this whole case
is kind of a Frankenstein legal case. And I think

(13:12):
people are realizing that, yeah, this stuff doesn't make any sense.
And that's why just calling him a convicted felon or
an adjudicated rapist or all of these terms that they're
coming up. But I think that's just landing with a
thud because people realize that's bogus, and we don't want
that to happen to us either.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Here's my question, and this goes a little deeper than
just campaign and elections and how people react to news
like this. You know, you've got a candidate in former
President Trump, sixteen states try to keep him off the
ballot this year in a straight faced way, which was ridiculous.
You have all the prosecutions you know from you know,
all multiple ones that have come his way. He's impeached twice.

(13:55):
There really doesn't seem to be a bridge they're not
willing to cross to try and stop him from taking office.
Is any of this language of being a fascist or
being a hitler, or the dangerousness of him? Is it
to set the groundwork to not accept a Trump election
if it were to look to be the case. Is
there something worse than just bad campaigning going on here?

Speaker 5 (14:19):
I think that there probably is. I mean, we know
that the Chief lawfair, people like Mark Elias, you know,
have been working on all of the ways in which
they can get the election sort of tilted their way,
and I think they are preparing the groundwork to say
that he is illegitimate, just as they did in twenty sixteen,
and people have forgotten that many of the sort of

(14:39):
the legal tactics that you know that the Trump campaign
did in twenty twenty were things that had been tried
by the Democrats when they had lost in twenty sixteen.
I think there's going to be considerably more of that
kind of lawfair that's going to be used as Trump wins.
And I think we're also going to see, as you know,
the Democratic bolster Mark Alpern said, you know, a massive

(15:05):
mental health crisis. I think there's going to be a
lot of rioting just as there was in twenty sixteen
and twenty twenty, and maybe even more.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
That scary thought David, well know an eight and a
half or seven and a half days now, David, thanks
for joining us tonight.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
Hey, thanks for having me all rights so much.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
On our newsmaker line. David Devil. He is a senior
contributor to The Imaginative Conservative and also the AMC dot us.
Talking about the political f word backfiring now on Democrats,
and I have a question for you, Greg and for
our listeners tonight. We'll do this in the five o'clock hour.
What is fueling the social changes between men and women

(15:44):
in this campaign this year because there's a real divide,
there is a gender gap. What do you think is
fueling it?

Speaker 1 (15:49):
It's one hundred percent anti man. I'll just answer it now.
There's never been an assault on board men in manhood
as we've seen from this crazy party in the last
three and a half half years, worse than the last
three and a half of before.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
You shared something with me today that Chris Cuomo, who's
on News Nation, I believe now to show there, I
think really defined what the Trump supporter is. Would you
agree or I would?

Speaker 1 (16:14):
And the reason I saved it and I was hoping
we could play this is I've been saying a version
of this, and I just say it quickly. I say
that Trump's strong. His base is not Republicans necessarily. It's
people that don't like politics and don't trust politicians. That
is something that is unique to him, and it gets
people that are not traditional voters to really get out
and vote and be excited about a candidate. This is

(16:35):
the way that Chris Cuomo put it, and I think
it's it's dead accurate.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Here we go.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
You gotta stop thinking that the people who support Trump
are like Trump, that they speak like Trump, that they
act like Trump.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
They don't.

Speaker 6 (16:49):
They want to hire Trump to do a dirty job.
They want him to be a virus to the political corpus.
They want him to disrupt, to destroy, to demean those
that they disrespect and dislike, the system that they distrust
and despise. They want someone to do what they believe

(17:11):
has been done to them and that they cannot do themselves.
That's why they don't care that he exhibits terrible behavior,
because they're putting him into a terrible place. If you're
sending somebody into the jungle, do you really care if
they're a savage? You see what I'm saying, And you
have to understand it that way. You may not agree,
you may not accept, you may not like, but that's

(17:33):
what it is.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
I tell you what. I think. He's pretty spot on
with that, I know. And there was a story today
to go along with this in NBC New Politics, written
by Mark Murray. Here's a headline, Infrequent voters are fueling
Trump's support. Will they show up in a week? And
I think they will, absolutely they will.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
They are You're seeing early voter returns coming out that
people are voting early it's it's a smart move. They
can wreck their resources for those that haven't voted yet.
And and I'm going to tell you that this is
why the midterms. He never has long coattails in midterms,
because they're not convinced that who Trump likes is the
same as Trump. Trump his supporters really believe in him.

(18:14):
And and again, what what the political class the people
that I know in politics, they just missed this point
is that I know he's not polished. But you got
to know that a lot of people when they hear
hear someone it sounds so articulate and they're so polished.
It doesn't sound authentic. It sounds like it came from
a from.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
A consocus group.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
And so that's that's the rough around the edges is
actually a validation that the guy is with us because
we're rough around the edges.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
We're not all we're not all.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
None of us see ourselves like the polished politicians. And
I'm telling you that's the that's the big kind of
gap between a lot of people that I know that
are that have been in politics or work around it
and in public policy issues and the average everyday American.
And in the difference of what they see.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Well, and I think he touches on something. Greg people
are so sick and tired of the federal government. They
are just tired of Washington and they want somebody to
get in there. And I've said this before, like a
bull in a china shop or a wrecking ball and
take it to Washington. They're tired of it. I mean,
he's appointed Elon Musk to look at this commission right

(19:22):
and evaluate the federal government. Well, Musk set over the weekend.
He thinks he could find two trillion dollars in government waste.
And I bet there's a whole lot more hand low
hanging feuse. But I really think the American people are
sick and tired of Washington, and they hear these stories.
We talk about other news that Outlet's talk about you know,

(19:43):
you've got to buy an EV. You know, we're going
to kill fracking. We're going to do this where and
the American people go, no, we never voted for that.
We're tired of that.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
And Trump doesn't run on rhetoric. He does have specific
plans and the JD Vance exchanges that will play where
he explained Trump's you know, policy initiatives and what he
plans to do. They're they're fact filled, they're they're specific,
they're not just you know, blather and and joy and
all of that other stuff.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
So I do I think.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
I think that that he's he has got that that
he's got the momentum, but he is just an authentic person.
And I think that people that are just tired of
what we're getting, and we're getting a ton we're going
to a real strong dose of it right now. People
are trusting their gut, they're trusting their eyes, their ears.
They're not going to be told that everything's fine. You
you're not. The economy has never been better. You don't
think it is well, you have money dysmorphia. You don't

(20:31):
understand how good you have it? Yeah, offensive, that is,
you know. Michelle Obama will play the clip later. She's
telling people, how dare you vote against uh Kamala? You
better get over you better get over your outrage because
we told you to vote this way?

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Never in campaign elections have I heard someone make a
case to earn someone's support by scolding them.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Well, and that's what they're doing. And I think this
story about infrequent voters you could call them low propensity voters,
because they've been identified as voters who only typically show
up for presidential election. They don't care about the off
year elections. And if they come out and I think
they're going to come out, thank you to Kamala because
they see what she stand for. They are going to
come out in droves and it's going to be interesting.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
That impacts Well, if you've been a uniparty, people don't
have any they don't think, what's the point, We don't
even care who wins. But this there's differences in this one.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Boy is all right more coming up here on the
rodden Greg Show, stay with us. Howard number two is
on its way. Trump's bad. Trump is bad. He's a fascist.
He's a fascisty. He's a woman hater.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Now, somehow he just restrained himself in his first term,
just waiting for some future time where he could really
do all these terrible things we're promising you he'll do.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
He's a bigot, he's a race homophobes, you name it.
He's all of those wrapped into one now, Ms Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
I think they're closing. Arguments for this campaign are just
not really closing. They're just they're just parroting themselves again,
and still that's all, that's all it is.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
It is so weak out there, and you don't what
two things. Gregon people are just sick and tired of this.
They they're tired of the fascist you know, directives being
made toward Trump. They're they're just tired of it. Right.
I don't know about you, but I run into more
people who come up with me and it's what do
you think is going to happen? And I have no idea.
I give them three scenarios.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
On the call, tell them the call, listen to me.
I know, I know, you know.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
And the other thing that you know what they say,
when is this gonna get off?

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Well, you remember when we talked to my cousin in
Pittsburgh that you know, if we had talked to them
four weeks ago or something, nobody cared or like they're
rolling their eyes.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
They're not cared.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Now. They're hyped up, they're engaged, they're into it. But
that that, you know, you got a window of that
kind of concentration and attention and then it then you
gotta you gotta bounce, well get out.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, well, remember what happened back in twenty sixteen, when
Donald Trump won, you were there. What was Washington like?
You were back there for the inauguration, right.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yep, it was. You had you had windows that were boarded.
People knew that there was going to be for some reason,
they were worried about it. So you saw a lot
of sheet uh what what part bird would across a
lot of storefronts, and then the ones that you didn't
see that way and they just closed up shop. So
a lot of DC was a ghost town around the inauguration.
The McDonald's wanted to stay open, and because it stayed open,

(23:12):
the people with the pink hats and they were just
yelling and screaming how much they hated Trump. They threw
they destroyed it. They threw things through the plate glass.
Once it got dark, you had Antifa people that were
coming up. And this sounds this sounds like it's over
the top, but I'm telling you, I've seen the people
that this happened to. They run past you and then

(23:33):
they puncture you. They stab you as they so you
get run into and then there's just a rapid stabbing
as they run past you, and you don't even understand
for a while that you're bleeding because they you've been hit.
And I only know that because in the in the
hotel where they had it all cordoned off, there weren't
cars or anything in this area. We were staying at

(23:53):
the Hyatt. People were coming into the lobby bleeding and
they had to call ambulances and get them through those
areas and so crazy. Yeah, that's that was in January
of seventeen. I do think that there will be a
more coordinate effort by that side. However, I do want
to believe that a very very strong electoral victory will
make all of those protests harder to get away with,

(24:15):
especially in the I America people.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Maybe maybe not, We'll have to wait and see. Well,
let's find out how Washington is preparing for the possibility
of a Trump victory. Joining us on our Newsmaker line
is Reagan Reeves. Reagan is the White House correspondent for
the Daily Color. Reagan is a Washington getting ready for
a Trump victory. What are you seeing here out there
right now?

Speaker 7 (24:33):
Well, first of all, it's pretty remarkable that Trump is
on the verge of a victory that I definitely think
the momentum has shifted in his favor going into this
final week. You know, he's been in and out of
the courthouse, he's taken a shot to the head. These
the Democrats have switched to he's running against. So now
he's on the verge of a victory. And so, you know,

(24:56):
Washington is based with this question what happens if Trump wins.
In twenty sixteen, we saw protests Dems claiming there was
interference in the election, that it wasn't, you know, a
fair and free election. Now now we're going to be
looking at the same thing what could be happening.

Speaker 8 (25:16):
Political experts that we spoke to at the Daily Caller.

Speaker 7 (25:20):
You know, warns that they think the outrage from the
left if Trump wins could be more extreme and dangerous.
Part of the reason why they said this is because
in twenty sixteen, a lot of people weren't prepared for
a Trump victory. They didn't think it was going to
be a real thing. But now the country has been
seeped in anti trump Ism for the last eight years

(25:41):
and it's a very very real thing that Donald Trump
could could win this election.

Speaker 8 (25:48):
And so that's kind of what we're looking at.

Speaker 7 (25:50):
Or they're going to be protests, the protest going to
be worse what's the law fair going to be like?
And I think that we're going to see a real
legal battle, of real media melt and violence, a more
widespread violence.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
I know, prior to his winning, either in twenty sixteen
or twenty twenty, I can't remember now, there were some
store owners there that were boarding up their windows to
protect themselves. Are you are there rumblings in Washington this
could happen again.

Speaker 7 (26:19):
The experts I've spoken to, they definitely think that the
violence is not just going to be Washington specific, but
we actually might see it take place more widespread across
the country. That people angry with President Trump's victory will
take their anger out on any figure of government that

(26:39):
they might have, So whether that's their local government, their
local capital.

Speaker 8 (26:44):
They don't think it's.

Speaker 7 (26:44):
Going to be just specific to Washington, DC, or New
York City or maybe even Seattle and Washington. They think
it's going to be in numerous cities and states across
the country. And you know, lashed in twenty sixteen Trump won,
there was a ton of violence in the streets. There
were car lots of vandalism, car doors being dented, There

(27:08):
was a limo set on fire just blocks away, from
where I live now, and so if our experts are
saying that they think there's going to be more widespread violence,
certainly what you saw in twenty sixteen could be amplified
in the city in the nation's capital as well.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Reagan, I appreciate this article because I think we got
to call the shot early. Because you're exactly right. I
was at the inauguration in January of seventeen, saw plate
glass windows of commercial establishment smashed out. I saw the
violence firsthand, and that was, like you said in your article,
kind of on the spur of the moment because they
were expecting Hillary to win. My only question is if
the two big to rig theme and hope that this

(27:48):
electoral turnout for Trump is so strong, does that blunt
any of this coordinated effort to create violence and chaos
because potentially his election is so certain.

Speaker 7 (28:02):
I definitely think that is a thought of what could happen.

Speaker 8 (28:07):
Again.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
Like I mentioned, I think that the country has been
seeped in anti trump Ism for the last eight years
and are prepared for a Trump victory that you know,
despite of how big or small the margin is, there
could be protests anyways. I also expect the Democrats to
challenge election laws in some way, shape or form. We

(28:31):
saw Kamala Harris kind of beef upcurt her election staff.

Speaker 8 (28:34):
She has lawyers on call in every state.

Speaker 7 (28:38):
She hired Democrats super lawyer Mark Elias, who is really
known to be the guy on the left and was
fired by the Biden campaign and is now back on
Harris's team.

Speaker 8 (28:49):
All of those things indicate.

Speaker 7 (28:50):
That they are planning to file lawsuits after the election.
And so, you know, the experts I spoke to on
election integrity think that they could claim anything regarding to
voter suppression to kind of, you know, interfere.

Speaker 8 (29:05):
With a Trump victory. And we've already seen them kind
of do the same.

Speaker 7 (29:08):
Thing suing Virginia and Alabama over there purging the voter rolls.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Reagan. What could happen on Capitol Hill? I mean, we've
had congressmen saying they may do something in the halls
of Congress to stop this. I mean, if you think
about this, Kamala Harris, as I understand it, wouldn't she
have to certify the Electoral College and would she do that?
I mean, what are you hearing up on Capitol Hill
about what the Democrats may or may not do.

Speaker 8 (29:34):
Yeah. So Maryland Democratic Rep.

Speaker 7 (29:36):
Jamie Raskin has already kind of hinted at this that
if he didn't think the election was fair, that he
would not be certifying the election, which is definitely concerning
and kind of indicate gives you an indication of what
other Democrats could be thinking. You know, let's call in
mind twenty twenty, where there were one hundred plus Republicans

(29:58):
who moved to certify the election, and still the election
was certified and Joe Badam became president.

Speaker 8 (30:04):
And so while I think it's a concern that this.

Speaker 5 (30:08):
Might be.

Speaker 7 (30:10):
Something that goes on on Capitol Hill, Raskin alludes to it,
I think it's something that is not going to cause
that big of a stink that Trump is unable to
take office.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
So, you know, I'll tell you this. If there's a county,
a large Republican county that can swing an entire state,
that says, hey, we're going to stop voting because we
have a plumbing leak, and then the security camera show
that after everybody leaves and poll watchers leave, they continue
to count, which is actually the case in Fulton County
in twenty twenty. If people are putting butcher paper across windows,
so you cannot observe the county of ballots. If I

(30:45):
were a Democrat, I would absolutely object to those things,
as I did in twenty twenty absent those egregious maneuvers
that we witnessed and everyone told us to move on.
Nothing to see here, folks, What in the world would
they are actually? Can you imagine what they would argue
to delegitimize a successful election for Donald Trump?

Speaker 7 (31:05):
Yeah, this was something that definitely kind of perplexed my
experts that I spoke to. They kind of were unsure
what exactly they would claim, but were, you know, are
expecting something. One thing that was raised was this idea
of voter suppression that for the last couple of years,
Democrats have been, you.

Speaker 8 (31:24):
Know, complaining about voter suppression.

Speaker 7 (31:26):
That every time you need in ID to vote, that
suppresses votes. Every time you purge your voter roles and
want to take you know, illegal immigrants off your voter roles,
that actually is suppressing people's abilities to vote. And so
that was kind of the expectation as of as of
right now that they will expect for Democrats to kind

(31:49):
of make similar moves to try to challenge places where
there might be voter identification or there might.

Speaker 8 (31:55):
Be you know, illegal or you know, voter roles.

Speaker 7 (31:59):
That were purged, anything that they could claim voter suppression.
I think the voter suppression is going to be a
general theme of the twenty twenty four election.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Reagan, thank you for joining us. Reagan talking about what's
going on in Washington, d C. And the uproar that
could be taking place. I don't know about you, Greg,
but if this is a close election, even if it's
not a close election, I think you could have some
violence in the nation's capital, and as Reagan said, maybe
in other cities around the country.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
So one of the things I didn't mention in that interview,
but in twenty twenty I was in Washington, D C.
And the lead up to the twenty twenty election, and
there were a lot more stores that were boarding up
their storefronts. There were a lot more stores that were
putting signs out we were going to be closed after
the election. It's only when Biden won they all came

(32:52):
back and took it all off, which was a clear
indication that they knew which side was going to create
carnage and riot. And it was not just generally one
side or the other. As soon as they believe that
Biden won, they thought the coast was clear, and they
took the boards off and they opened their stores.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Well, let's talk about what's going on in America. What
is really behind America's men and women election? Do you
think we have a men versus women election this year? I? Yeah, Well,
the Democrats are trying to make it out to be one. Right.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Well, I think there's a lot of women that are
on the guy's side on this gender issue that's emerged
upon us over the last four It's probably older than that,
but I just think it got wacky just within the
last four years. And I think there's a lot of
women offended by it as much as guys threatened by
it and don't like it. And that's that there is

(33:41):
no definition of what is a woman?

Speaker 2 (33:43):
What is a man? I mean?

Speaker 1 (33:44):
And men don't lay claim to that identification by themselves,
and a man can play girls, sports, on and on.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
It's just I mean, I'm going to tell you.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
And every time the Democrats in the Harris campaign try
to run an ad that has a guy trying to
talk to young guys, it's so contrived and it's not
written by anyone that's actually a guy that would understand
the issues that we're going to talk about.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Well, and here we had Barack Obama, what was it
two weeks ago, he was campaigning for Kamala and he
went after he scolded black men, young black men for
even thinking about supporting Donald Trump. Yeah, and then Michelle
shows up this weekend. She showed up in Kalamazoo, Michigan
on Saturday, and she basically this was her message. Women's

(34:28):
lives are worth more than your anger and your disappointment.
That's why you need to vote for Kamala Harris, how
was their message?

Speaker 1 (34:35):
There needs to be a case study at some point
on how the Obamas became so insular to the world
around them, in the country that they were a part
of and had a successful campaign. And you know, they're
probably arrogant because they were so revered and appreciated, but
they now see the people as the problem everyday people.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
That's what she said at the rally.

Speaker 9 (34:56):
Your rage does not exist in a vacuum.

Speaker 8 (35:00):
If we don't.

Speaker 9 (35:01):
Get this election right, your wife, your daughter, your mother,
we as women will become collateral damage to your rage.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
So are you as men?

Speaker 9 (35:21):
Prepared to look into the eyes of the women and
children you love and tell them that you supported.

Speaker 8 (35:26):
This assault on our safety.

Speaker 9 (35:29):
And to the women listening, we have every right to
demand that the men in our lives do better by us.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
What I mean, first, collateral damage? What is she talking about?

Speaker 1 (35:46):
And here's what I've been saying for a long time.
If Michelle Obama ran instead of Kamala when they were
going to replace the Biden, that she would win walking away,
If that would be her rhetoric, If that's how she
would have run a campaign, I don't know that she
would have you, because she is I have never seen
a campaign, and I've been I've been I've been a campaign.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
I've been a volunteer.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
I've been a campaign worker on many many campaigns for
many many years before I ever ran as a candidate myself,
and then I was a candidate. I have never and
this isn't hyperbole, I have never ever heard or watched
or understood. I've never a campaign of threats of you
need to take your issue and you needn't forget about it. Yeah,
because this is what we're gonna do, and you're going

(36:27):
to vote that right way, and this is how you
need to get on board, and here's your sheet music.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Start singing.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I have never heard anyone win a campaign and bring
people together that way. That is this, this scolding, this
finger pointing, this, you know, take your rage and go
somewhere else and vote the way we tell you to vote.
I've never heard of such a thing, honest with it.
And you know, my big complain about Democrats forever used
to be that they hit the ball. That they would

(36:52):
tell you these nice things and they had your back
and they're going to help you and all these good
things are gonna happen, and they had this agenda that
they weren't telling you about. They don't do that anymore.
They're saying, hey, we don't have your back and we
don't think what you're talking about. Take your rage, take
it somewhere else. Pal, we want you over here, and
you better be over here. I mean, come on, It's
surreal to me. But they think this is a winning

(37:12):
message that they're sharing right now.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Do you think comments like this is what is fueling
the men versus women election? I think it is easily,
easily easily. I think it is as well. All right,
we want to get your calls on this eight eight
eight five seven oh eight zero one zero. What's behind
in your opinion this battle between men and women in
the race for the White House in twenty twenty four
eight eight eight five seven oh eight zero one zero

(37:35):
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(37:55):
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Speaker 1 (38:13):
Well, thank you. Oh you just end it there. Don't
you have to say another word.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
But people who run for political office. My dad ran
for political office. He lost. Well, it happens. I can
tell you. He wanted to serve on the school board.
But he ran for like town mayor or something and
he lost. Hey, you know what, I think he lost
because he was a business owner. He ran as an independent.
He was chicken.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Well, well, I'll tell you this. There's a great Teddy
Roosevelts saying or quote about being in the arena. You're
always better off than the timid and cold souls who
never know victory or defeat.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Yeah, so I admire anybody out there who runs for
political office. All right, but we're talking about right now
is what's really behind America's men and women. No doubt,
men are going to be voting for Trump, women are
going to be voting for Kamala Harris.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
So why there is an apparent gender gap. But just
understand this too. Historically with elections, there's been just a
natural gender gap between the Democrat candidate for running for president,
women voting for that Democrat candidate more so than men,
just historically and by precedent like that. So that exists,
that already existed with this abortion issue, there's a little

(39:24):
bit more. But anyway, there, but there's some things happened
on the guy side now that they hadn't had before
that I think is heightening this conversation about the gender
gap of who's voting for who. So we want to
go to you, the callers, the smartest listening audience and
all the land and get your take on this and
let's start again. Eighty eight five seven zero eight zero
one zero. If you'd like to call in and opine,

(39:46):
let's go to Shane an American fork. Shane, welcome to
the program.

Speaker 10 (39:50):
Yeah, yes, God and Greg, how you guys doing today?

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yes, well, thank you.

Speaker 10 (39:56):
I appreciate you taking my call. I'll listen to you
guys every day. Shape everything you do. Citizen Us, I
love you. You're just a great inspiration to Utah and
just love listen to.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Bald Thank you, brother, thank you, thanks for being a listener.

Speaker 11 (40:09):
You're welcome.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
You're welcome now.

Speaker 10 (40:11):
I just I just think that to the elections such
a big deal. I think because of Kamala Harris, Isn't
it because maybe that there's a lot of black women
that want to vote this time around because they think
that kama is a great choice. You think that empowers
women to have a little more strengths going forward. I
heard a lot of a lot of talk about that

(40:32):
that you think that has a big deal you know, well, you.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Know what, if you take what what what Michelle Obama
has said to the rally and in defensive black women
and kind of yelling at the guys in the audience,
maybe there's some truth that, but I think it's misplaced
in terms of that. I think women generally there are
these issues about reproductive rights, abortion, whatever you want to
call it. I think there's certainly an issue we're talking about. However,

(40:58):
the kitchen table issues, affording groceries, affording a place to live,
having a job, what's happening to our kids in schools.
Women are tracking these things, and to assume that they're
not going to vote for Trump because of it, I
think is a I think they're wrong.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
And I would think Shane the Democrat Democrats right now
are counting on women to help Kamala Harris win the
election because she's a woman, and they are counted on
women out there. Yeah, you know they Hillary tried to
count on them, but she was such a despicable person,
nobody wanted to vote for her. Maybe the same could

(41:35):
be said about Kamala Harris. But we'll have to wait
and see. Next week, we'll find out.

Speaker 10 (41:38):
Well, you know what, the track record, the track record.
What the Democrats. They can't rely on right on or
being female to get this country back on track.

Speaker 11 (41:47):
They just can't.

Speaker 10 (41:48):
That's not up the run of them, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Trump guys, Yeah here, yeah, I'm with you, Shane all
the way. Go Trump. That's it. You know if you
look at that, Well, let's go back to the phones,
can color on. Let's go to Sam in Salt Lake
City and see what he has to say about the
gender differences in this year's election. Sam, how are you
welcome to the Roden Gregg Show?

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Hi? Rod?

Speaker 11 (42:11):
He what is it about a fifteen or twenty percent?
Is in other words, to take away of women from
Trump and twenty percent more for Harris, whatever that issue is.
But the big key issues are the first woman president possibility.
That's a huge thing for women that are you know,

(42:33):
they want that. And number two abortion, They want abortion
and they're all mad and angry about it. So a
large percentage of the population of the women population are
going to vote in the in that direction, and I
think that that spells a disparity. I know, there's a
lot of little stuff about you know, my big issue

(42:57):
is men playing women's sports. Just disgust me. So those
are the big issues. And I think that's.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
How Sammy raise a good point. Why are women supporting
Kamala Harris who supports boys playing in women's sports when
you think most women would be opposed to that, sam
But apparently they.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Aren't, especially families.

Speaker 11 (43:25):
You know. Uh, there's not a lot of rhyme and
reason in politics, you know, No, there's a lot of
red herrings. Okay, and you you I mean, just listening
to Michelle Obama turned my stomach inside out.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
It's like it's like the salad bowl of Harris.

Speaker 7 (43:45):
What are you?

Speaker 3 (43:46):
What are you talking about? What? What? What? What? You know?

Speaker 11 (43:49):
A lot of the stuff is made up crap, and
it's it's to drive wedges, it's to divide people identity politics.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
It's all kinds of cramp.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Yeah, it's a good way to put it, all kinds
of cramp. That's right.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
And I but I you know, we had an interview
long time early maybe in the summertime. We had a
guy on that does that does a lot of analysis
of campaigns, and he said, look and he was he
actually was I think from the pro life organization. But
he said, at the end of the day, in presidential elections,
the culture war issues are never the front burner issues.
And if if the Democrats want to make abortion their

(44:27):
front burner issue on a culture war issue, it might not.
It's not going to bode well for them. However, I
will say since that interview, the transgender allowing men to
play girls' sports, or the or the gender transition surgeries
of inmates, that that these culture war issues have actually

(44:48):
taken a front a front stage in this in this
presidential election, like it has not in passed presidential elections.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
So that's interesting. I mean, so more of your calls
coming up eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero
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Speaker 1 (45:13):
Can get very expensive. Your yard signs are expensive, your
direct mails expensive. There's so much involved. And I will
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(45:34):
because I think it's a really good it's a really
smart idea.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
And if you're just joining us now, we're talking about
the gender gap in this year's election. Men for Donald Trump,
women for Kamala Harris. What is fueling this. Let's go
back to the phones.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Let's go to Terry in Orum. Terry, thank you for
holding and thank you for calling the Rodning Greg show.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Hi.

Speaker 12 (45:54):
I guess I'm just I just have a hard time
with so many women voting on one policy, which is abortions,
and I just kind of imagine all of them just
care about that their daughters are going to be able
to have an abortion when they grow up. So I
hope women are going to be more about one instead
of one issue, more than one issue, and I think

(46:16):
if they are, I think they'll be more in line
with men, and then then just such a division. That's
what I think.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Thank you, Terry, That's what Queen beebe. That's what my
wife says all the time. I mean, I'm not she
doesn't wake up every day wanting, boy, can I abort
I just want to abort, Uh, have more abortions. I mean,
it's just it's not the it's not the kitchen table issue.
It's not the issue of the day. And she's like Terry,
she does she would hope that everyone, without regard to gender,
would look at the issues that we're facing right now

(46:44):
and you know, vote accordingly.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Women and men. Parents, I think, wake up every day
thinking about, first of all, the safety of their children.
Are their children being taken care of? What are they
being taught in school? You know?

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah, but if I could just terminate more pregnancies and
more babies, well, why can't I just do that?

Speaker 2 (47:00):
That's what they're concerned about. Let's go to the phones
in Salt Lake CITI. Let's talk with Aaron here in
the Roden Greg Show. Aaron, thanks for joining us tonight.

Speaker 13 (47:07):
Hi Hi, hi, Hi, thanks so much for having me.
I tend to agree with your last caller. I don't
necessarily believe the gender gap. I think that it's going
to be a little bit more of the women who
are voting for Oh my gosh, my friend, is that
Donald Trump than anyone else. I have personally no women
who have switched sides. I have a sister in law
who used to be pro abortion. She voted for Biden.

(47:29):
And she literally was just a couple of weeks ago
telling me that she feels like she's being manipulated, she
feels like she's been she's not seen the truth, and
she switched. Sigh, she's voting for Trump. I could not.
I almost go out of my car when she told
me that. I really think that there are going to
be more women this selection round that are going to
vote for for Trump. And I don't believe.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
I don't.

Speaker 8 (47:51):
I don't really.

Speaker 13 (47:52):
Appreciate people's pinion. With such a wide rush that women
are for Kamala, I just think that's half the country.
There's so many amazing women in there who actually see
common sense.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Aaron. Did you you mentioned your sister
changed her views. Did that happen over a period of time,
do you think or was it something sudden it did?

Speaker 13 (48:12):
I think I think part of the pandemic was was
part part that was part of the reason she started
looking at things a little bit more objectively. I think
when you go down a rabbit hole and you start,
you know, believe in everything you look at. She just
all of a sudden just decided to look at some
other things and that kind of sparked it. So I
think it was more an objective, uh, you know, open
mindedness that she changed her mind.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Good for her. Thank you Aeron for your phone call.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah, I love it. I think there's a lot of
people that share her perspective. Let's go to Jen in
Spanish fork, Jen, Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
What say you?

Speaker 14 (48:47):
I agree with the last several callers. I am a
woman and I have never voted for a Democratic candidate,
and especially not a woman. I don't agree with them
at all. I think that maybe it's the woke women,
it's the extreme left, but the majority of women are
smart and they can see how stupid that they're being,

(49:08):
how stupid and how they're putting all their eggs in
one basket. They're saying this abortion, this abortion, this abortion. Well,
not all of us think that way. It's not just
their body, it's another body. You're dealing with, another life,
not just yours. Your decision was before you decided to
make that life or not.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
And Jen, I would think that most women have a
lot of other issues that they're concerned about than just abortion.
Would you agree or disagree?

Speaker 14 (49:32):
I absolutely agree. And I think that in listening to
the Democrats, Kamala especially trying to voice what her policies are,
she can't even voice them. Yeah, and I think women
are much smarter and can see right through that.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yeah, I think they can too. Let's go to Laurie
in Logan tonight here on the Rowden Gregg Show. Laurie,
thank you so much for joining us your thoughts on this.

Speaker 8 (49:55):
Thank you.

Speaker 15 (49:55):
And I'm with all these other women.

Speaker 12 (49:57):
Women are not all.

Speaker 15 (49:59):
Voting or Camilla just because she's a woman, because like
I mean, she says there on any program with anybody,
Donald Trump, Donald trumb Donald Trump, and then when they
ask for what her view is, all off of the
top of my head, I don't have anything. She gives nothing,
and I don't think women are going to give way
to that at all. She just doesn't represent herself. Even

(50:21):
Hillary Clinton gave a better job at campaigning than what
she's doing. So yeah, I don't see that she could
win on any of her policies because she hasn't.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Got any and she can't articulate it. If she does,
she can't explain to us what they are. Exactly right, Greg.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
That's exactly right. Look, I don't.

Speaker 11 (50:41):
We haven't.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Let me just say that ten seconds. The polling shows
that there's this gender gap. However, when we talk to
our listeners and I think it's it's what I'm hearing
at home. I think if there's a shy Trump vote,
there may be a shy vote on this issue too.
With where women if asked this question, with this idea
that they're supposed to be with the first female ever
running for president, they might not answer there there may

(51:04):
they may be under polling, is what I should say.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Interesting, all right, coming up when we come back, a
non magic conservative explains why she's now voting for Donald Trump.
Will come back with that next on The Roden Great Show.
Had a tough weekend. You did, oh me? In sports?
All your teams were lousy. Yankees lost to You're.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Such a Texas longhorned fan, and they won, but they
didn't win in convincing fashion. Although that Vandy team do
not do not They beat Alabama.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Yeah, Utah loss, Texas almost lost. Cowboys got just thumped
last night. I'm surprised the coach Mike McCarthy is still there.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
I think that Dak getting that big giant contract. I
think he came into Jerry Jones office with a ski
mask on and a gun in his hand. I think
he robbed Jerry Jones. That's what I think.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
I think he did too. All right, let's talk more politics.
You know you hear of? I guess you would describe
him as non maga conservatives out there, Greg, I don't know,
are these Republicans who don't like Donald Trump? I guess yes,
I know? And I Ingrid? I love Ingrid. I love her.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
If she's not a maggot person, that's fine. But yeah,
that's what the kind it would be.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Yeah, Well, Ingrid Jack, as a columnist with USA Today,
is joining us. She wrote an article about that. She said,
I'm a non maga conservative. Sanctemonious liberals make me want
to vote for Trump. Ingrid, thanks for writing that. Why
did you make that decision? Ingrid?

Speaker 16 (52:37):
Well, it's just been a long few months.

Speaker 8 (52:41):
Let's put it that right.

Speaker 16 (52:42):
But you know, like I say in my column, I've
really never.

Speaker 8 (52:46):
Been a maga conservative.

Speaker 16 (52:51):
I am more traditional conservative, and I really don't feel
like Trump represents those of us who are more traditionally conservative.
But just between the rhetoric from Kamala Harris herself, her
inability to define what she stands for. She continually cannot

(53:13):
answer simple questions about what she'd.

Speaker 8 (53:17):
Do on day one, you know, what would be her.

Speaker 16 (53:22):
Top agenda items that would separate her from President Biden.
She can't do it. So there's that, and she's starting
to she's not able to gain the kind of esteem
she needs with all the happy vibes and the joy,
So now she's turning to much darker rhetoric, you know,

(53:43):
relating Trump and Mega supporters to fascists, you know, language
we heard back in twenty sixteen. And I think that
that turns off a lot of people. I mean, I
definitely know it turns off me, even to someone who
might not love Trump. I think that kind of a

(54:05):
kind of name calling is just very unhelpful. And yes,
it makes someone like me much more interested to vote
for him.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Angar.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
This is a fascinating concept, and we've been talking about
this on the program. But I think we're observing at
least I am out of the Harris campaign. I would
call it a campaign of subtraction. I don't think RFK
Junior woke up at the beginning of twenty twenty four
believing he would be endorsing, supporting, and campaigning for Donald Trump.
I don't know that Elon Musk was. I don't know
that Tulsea Gabbard was. I don't know that the majority

(54:38):
of the large segment of union workers would be indicating,
even publicly, which was taboo not till long ago, that
they support Trump. Is whether it's the Latino vote, the
minority vote. You're seeing what I think out of that
Trump campaign is a campaign of addition. You see a
campaign of subtraction out of Harris's campaign. So my question
to you is what you're feeling. You're saying sounds familiar,

(55:01):
and I'm seeing that everywhere from the left. Is there
anything about Trump's campaign this time around that as opposed
to sixteen and twenty, where he is more palatable given
where the Democrats are, but where he's also broadened his
base of support. Oh.

Speaker 16 (55:18):
I think that's a really good question, and I think
just if the polls are accurate and what they're telling us,
it really does look like he's making inroads with working
class voters, with black and Latino voters. These are voting
blocks that Republicans don't traditionally do well with, and he's

(55:39):
finding a way to talk to them in a way
that resonates. So I give him real credit for that,
and I think he is just with the folks you
just mentioned, from Musk to Tulci Gabbard. I mean, this
is a very interesting coalition that's backing him right now,
and all the while Kamala Harris is losing support among

(56:01):
those groups. And I think we saw a little bit
of Trump's ability to reach out to new voters in
twenty sixteen. I think that's what helped him win my
state of Michigan, and I think he's doing well here
now for similar reasons with the Union vote, and he's
speaking a language that working class voters appreciate, and he's

(56:24):
talking to them about the economy and illegal immigration, whereas
Kamala cannot, for the life of her say what she
do to help address those problems. So I think his
message is resonating. And no, I'm off for him building
the Republican tent. I think that's a positive thing.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Ingrid, what do you make of the events over the weekend?
Here you had Michelle Obama to men, saying women's lives
are worth more than your anger and disappointment. So she's
attacking men again. Then you have this group putting out
this new ad of a Republican congressman stopping a young
man from pleasuring himself while he's watching porn on his telephone.
I mean talk about desperate.

Speaker 16 (57:07):
It is discussed correct, it is disgusting, and I think
it definitely is desperate. And I think there's been a
real tone change in Kamala's campaign, and I think it
is because they're reading the team leaves here and it's
not looking good for them. So they're going back to
what Hillary Clinton did in twenty sixteen, which is these

(57:30):
scarce tactics about Trump and what his presidency would mean,
and that certainly did not prove effective for her back then.
And I don't see it being a selling point at
all for Harris this time around.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
So I don't think that he has he's become a
that he's moderated his himself to and errge positions rather
to create this larger ten. I think he's connectors and
authenticity about his campaign, good and bad. He doesn't give
anyone any talking points, but if you look at the
rally at Madison Square Garden, maybe some talking points might
have been good for some of the ones that got

(58:06):
up there. I don't know, but but it has been.
It was a badge of honor for most of for
most of this campaign that he was not giving people
sheet music they had to sing from. And you saw
this that you do see this strong momentum I believe
going coming his way. On the other side of that,
you see people getting angry and getting mad at anyone
that wouldn't vote for Hairis or there's they they they

(58:29):
suffer from some moral failing talking about the people that
that you you say, look, I'm not a bit I'm
more of a traditional Republican. I always feel like I've
always been a traditional Republican and we're finally reaching people
with the right message h to bring them along. Does
this Does this help you and those that might have
been really Republicans but not crazy about Trump? Is this

(58:50):
a demographic that may be growing in Trump's camp as
well aside from you, Aside from you in your article.

Speaker 16 (59:00):
Well, right, and there's I mean, let's be honest, there's
a lot of what Trump's proposed that I disagree with
as well. Like I think, for instance, his pledge to
significantly raise tariffs kind of across the board, I think
that would essentially be a tax increase for everyday Americans.

(59:20):
But you know, when he lays out his message, I
think it is appealing to the union workers to love
working class folks in these quote blue wall states like
Michigan and Pennsylvania. It's it's a message that appeals to them.
So and these are the voters he needs to come
on his side. So but I think overall, his his

(59:44):
stance on the economy and immigration, these are real selling
points for him. And I think the people, the Democrats,
the liberals who have hated Trump, they've hated him since
he first stepped onto scene twenty fifteen, when he came
down on his elevator. I mean, they were going to
hate him from the beginning. And I don't think there's

(01:00:07):
much to do about that. But I think it's just
it's fascinating to me that here we are again, you know,
with Trump looking like he could maybe pull this off.
I mean, I never would have saw that coming a
few years ago. So it's it's going to be fascinating
to see what happens next week.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
It's gonna be awesome, Ingrid, I promise, I hope so.
Ingrid jackas she writes for USA Today talking about her
column where she's never been a big supporter of Donald Trump,
but after seeing what liberals have done over the past.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
And after talking to me, I've just convinced her it's
gonna be awesome. You can well, I was my closer.
It's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
She made that decision before you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Well, I think I made her feel better about it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Yeah, you may have.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
She laughed.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
All right, mar coming up, Ron and Greg with you
here on Utah's Talk Rady he'll one O five nine
Kay nrs. We'll let you hear a clip of it
as well. That's coming up at the at the bottom
of the hour. A couple of more things on the
Kamala Harris. Apparently Axios has this great story today that
the Harris campaign is stiff arming and Joe Biden and

(01:01:19):
they don't want him anywhere near her.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Well, that story has changed on us because there was
a story that he was holding big press conferences while
she was trying to hold events and that he was
kind of raining on her parade and kind of salty
about it. And now the story is that she's telling
him to you know, climb a tree.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Yeah, so well she is. Apparently there have been requests
coming in from the Biden administration to the Harris campaign
saying hey, need any help, what can we do for you?
And the campaign responds, We'll get back to you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Well, look, here's the thing, and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Then want them campaigning for you. Well, no, but be
the thing is this.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
I think that she's been very careful not to I mean,
the most obvious question is you're not Joe Biden, what
would you do differently? And she'll never answer it. And
I've always assumed that's because she doesn't want to tick
them off and have them, you know, maybe not be supportive.
So I've always imagined that they want either a neutrality
or support from Biden and jail doctor Jill. But but
they're looking at these polls I'm looking at They're like,

(01:02:19):
you know what, we were no different our campaign in
the summer. We were we were as bad, We were
as good or better in some voting blocks as she is. Now,
How in the world did we get sent to the woodshed?
What in the world's going on? So they might be
getting more salty as time goes on, because I don't
think that campaign is his looks, at least poll wise,

(01:02:41):
markedly different than when he was running.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
It does so, Yeah, and I think they him and
I think particularly Jilly is really angry that her husband
was forced out. Well, you know, I think that burns them.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
So when they were at Ethel Kennedy's funeral and they
in New York Post paid the lip reader to say,
that's all. That's all Biden saying to Obama is you know,
I could I could have done this, I could have
done better, I could do I could do this. I mean,
he's obviously it was front of mine. It's what they're
talking about in their downtime. So then there's this there's

(01:03:18):
this AI one where you can hear Bill Clinton commenting
on the pretty women while they're talking. It's it's a
hilarious little line. But no, I think that I think
that there is a lot of animosity in the Biden
camp and you know, who's asking to help and who's
telling him to climb a tree. The story's changed in
the public, but I think there's there is some real

(01:03:40):
deep seated I mean, look, he was booted, and if
you're on that campaign, if you're on that White House staff,
you can't feel good about that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Yeah, And you know the thing about it, Greg, it
was handed to her she didn't have to work. I mean,
Joe Biden's been was out campaigning. He got what fourteen
million votes in the various primaries. I mean he worked it, right, Yeah,
not a lot because he was in his basement a
lot of times, but he did work it. And then
she shows up because she's vice president, and the Democratic

(01:04:07):
machine goes, well, she's better than Joe. Here it is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
And look, there were Democrats that wanted to run against
Joe Biden because they thought this would be the case,
and they said, hey, we'd like to have a primary,
and they did. The Democrat National Committee did everything in
their power to including against RFK Junior, to keep them
out of any kind of competitive primary. They shut it
all down. And then oh, I guess we are going
to change horses here, and we're not going to have

(01:04:33):
any kind of boat whatsoever. And you know, I think
if if Biden thought, look, we're not having a primary,
he was in at least as the nominee. And you know, look,
he beat Trump in twenty by hooker crook.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
He won.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
And they're not wrong to say she hasn't won anything.
We have, we should be the ones running. Yeah, And
I don't know, I don't know that. I don't know
that it would be Maybe it would be worse if
Biden was in there than what com is doing right now.
But but she's not doing very well in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Yeah. Yeah, well, and does anything go right with this campaign?
I mean the Beyonce thing on Friday, Donne Houston was
an embarrassment, Greg, I mean, how do you you promise?
What a performance? Isn't that the term they used by
Beyonce to come to this free concert? Most people show
up to hear Beyonce and Beyonce walks out, says a

(01:05:26):
few words, announced that she's endorsing Kamala and walks off stage.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Yeah, there was something anger me. At best, there was miscommunication.
At worst, somebody said they do something they weren't going
to do. Yeah, okay, And I'm just telling you there's
I think that. I just think that there's there's not
as much excitement and joy around that Harris Walls ticket
as there was before. Probably when they committed to do it,

(01:05:51):
they felt better about it, and then when it was
time to do it, they were like, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Oh shit, this is Hardward. One other note on a
wonderful Kamala A former Vatican ambassador okay from the Vatican. Okay, Yeah,
calling Kamala an infernal monster who obeyed Satan, an infernal
monster who obeys Satan, that's what a Vatican ambassador is. Yeah, no,
I'm with him. Former Roman Catholic Archbishop Carlo Maria Vagano

(01:06:20):
endorsed Donald Trump for president this week, urging that Kamala
Harris represents an anti Catholic, anti Christian, and anti human
vision of society. Yauser, Well, she kicked those two kids
out who at her rallies said what Jesus is King
or Jesus is Lord? And she said, are at the
wrong rally down the street. Yeah, it's a little bit

(01:06:42):
smaller one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Man, I'm telling you this, she's not. She can go
ahead and start talking in that she changes the accent,
still does it, even after she's been called out for it.
She can change her accent all she wants when she
gets into inside of a church. But what she says
on the campaign trail is not very pro faith, very
you know, it's not. It's all like everything in her campaign,
it's contrived. It's political pageantry. There's nothing real to any

(01:07:07):
of it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Yeah. Well, Legano urges that Trump is the only possible
choice to counter the globalist coup that the woke left
is about to implement definitively, irreparably, and with incalculable changes
to future generations. He also says that Harris is a
George Soro's puppet who is controlled directly by Barack Obama

(01:07:27):
and Hillary Clinton. And I think the truth is there.
I just don't think Kamala Harris is her own person.
She does what everybody tells her to do.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Yeah, no, no, she come on, you just listen to her.
I mean she doesn't. She doesn't have everyone's trying to
help her. If you go on the view and they
are throwing you the they're not even softballs, they're beach balls.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
For her to hit.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
And she can't do it, and she fails to distinguish
herself from the past administration, even though they're trying with
all their heart and all their strength to help her.
She can't do it, then there's nothing in there. Okay,
remember remember the the teleprompter went stopped and she just wait,
what was she kept to say?

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Thirty one days?

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Thirty one day and she's like on a loop, you
know what to say or do? She didn't because she
have a teleprompter to tell her what to say.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
She didn't. She didn't. All right, when we come back
here on the Rodd and Greg Show on this Monday,
it was sixty years ago yesterday that Ronald Reagan called
on Americans to make a choice, a time for choosing.
We'll talk about that coming up next right here on
the Rodden Grag Show and Utah's Talk Radio one O
five nine n rs. I, brother, you're laughing over there.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
I'm a little distracted. I'm distracted. I'm distracted.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
You're watching the Steelers game. They're playing the Giants.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
Do you this was a new experience for me to
be on the radio. Do you expect all my Steelers
are playing? No, but you know that, you know there's
trap games every years.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
This is these are the Giants. Come on, you're gonna ja.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Don't say that you're gonnainst my team five and two
Steelers against the two and five Giants. However, it's three
three as we speak, and I happened to have it
on my iPad and it is I gotta just quit
looking at it. I gotta quit because my commitment is
to you, ladies and gentlemen. Yes, you are you are
my commitment.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Thank you, thank you. Well. As of yesterday, it was
sixty years ago, yesterday, that Ronald Reagan gave his famous
Time for Choosing speech. Now, this was the speech that
was delivered on network television. Matter of fact, the Republican
Party paid for this thirty minutes of airtime on network
television in which Ronald Reagan made the case as to

(01:09:40):
why the American people should vote for Barry Goldwater. Didn't work.
Goldwater got has a clock cleaned. But it really set
the stage for the beginning of Ronald Reagan's trip to
the White House and his run for the White House,
and he won two consecutive terms nineteen eighty four, winning
all forty nine of fifty stakes. Walter one that you

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remember that remember this speech. Here's a portion what Reagan
said Sunday sixty years ago.

Speaker 17 (01:10:07):
You and I are told increasingly we have to choose
between a left or right. Well, I'd like to suggest
there is no such thing as a left or right.
There's only an up or down Man's old Age dream,
the ultimate an individual freedom consistent with law and order,
or down to the ant heap of patalitarianism, and regardless

(01:10:29):
of their sincerity, their humanitarian motives. Those who would trade
our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Boy, I tell you what, he sounds very very young.
There joining us on our Newsmaker line to talk more
about this is Craig Sureley. Craig is an author, historian.
He's written six books about Ronald Reagan. Craig, always great
to have you on this show. What is it about
this speech, Craig that still resonates with the American people?
What is it?

Speaker 18 (01:10:54):
Well, if you listen to it, the words are just
so how I ascribe they just they're illuminating, and they're inspiring,
and they're inspirational, and it's kind of he draws the
line in the sand for the conservative movement. That helps

(01:11:15):
the movement and helps his career as the theme of
the speech resonates even today because he's talking about the
problems of American society in nineteen sixty four, but also
there's many of the same problems still apply today.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
So my question, that's actually where I was going, is
that does that speech resonate today? Because Reagan Revolution didn't
accomplish what we set out to do. It did, but
we've lost track, We've lost pace or we just haven't
really done the job he envisioned from Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Where are we?

Speaker 18 (01:11:53):
Great question? That's great question. I think he identified the
problems in nineteen sixty four, they didn't get done, and
I teen sixty four they did as far as nineteen
eighty through eighty eight. I mean, Reagan brought down the
Soviet Empire. He expanded personal freedoms and shrunk government. But
the problem is that the left is you know, is

(01:12:16):
a constant thing. It's always trying to as it has
in the last four years last including Obama, is that
they keep trying to reassert itself. So many of the
battles that we fought and won, we still have to
fight again over taxation, over abortion, over personal freedom, over

(01:12:36):
over communism, over collectivism. You know, just because you knows
you cross the end zone, you throw it out of
the touch, throw it on the throw it on the football,
and you say, yeah, we won. Well I wish it
was that simple, because the other side just doesn't quit.
They don't give up, So you have to keep fighting

(01:12:58):
the same old battles over and over. But if you
don't fight them, then then the heavens forbid they win.
And then we're all marched off to re education camps.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
H Craig. Ronald Reagan was always very leary of the
size of the federal government. I mean, he spoke about
it during this time. Is it even worse today? Should
we be even more frightened of the federal government than
even he was back in sixty four?

Speaker 18 (01:13:22):
When the Biden administration is trying to trying to add
sixty thousand Irish agents and arm them, When they've expanded
the cover spying operations of the NSA and the CAA
to include American citizens, When the corruption of the FBI

(01:13:43):
is the government meddling in the affairs, even more so
now than sixty years ago. Yes, yes, we have more
to fear from government than we ever had before. There's
such a thing as the arrogance of authority?

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Is that?

Speaker 18 (01:14:00):
Is that the you know, you think of sports teams
you don't win consistently, and I think, okay, well, you
know we deserve to win because we win. Well, you
won because you got a bigger payroll, you've got a
bigger budget, you got a better coach, you got a
better drafting. Something like this. But it's not mandated and
it's not divine. Is that there's too many people who

(01:14:21):
support government or in government, are around government who think
that because government is big and impressive, it's it deserves
to be big and impressive. That's not the case.

Speaker 16 (01:14:33):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
I am a I'm a as I a self described
recovering public servant. I was a public I was an
elected official for a long time. I'm I'm now citizen
in Hughes. I. So I have a lot of people,
a lot of friends in the political class that you
get to know and you stay in touch with, you know,
for years and years. A lot of them say if
if they're not they see Trump. They like Trump, but

(01:14:56):
he's more of a populist to them. They keep telling
me they're more of a Reagan publican. But I got
to tell you that Ronald Reagan that I know, the
Ronald Reagan that espouses the thing the issues in this
speech sounds mightily close to the Donald Trump that I'm
hearing as well. And if you went back to my
hometown of Pittsburgh and you asked them about Ronald Reagan,
they tell you that those Reagan Democrats that voted for

(01:15:17):
Rond Reagan haven't seen a Republican that they've wanted to
vote for until they heard from and got to know Trump.
So there's a lot of people out there that would
say that Trump strikes a reagan esque a.

Speaker 18 (01:15:31):
Vision, and they would be right. Reagan was popular. So
I've written six books about Reagan. I worked for Round Reagan,
my wife worked for Rond Reagan. I've done many speech
at the Reagan Library. I've spent a lifetime studying him,
even back to nineteen sixty four, when I was eight
years old, my father bought that record home and he
made my brother and me sit down and listen to

(01:15:52):
it after they played. After the album played, he said,
my father said, this man, Reagan himself, should be present.
He said that in nineteen sixty four. Is that people
don't you know? It might pans once and Mitch McConnell.
They warn about popularism. Why what is populism? It's simply
an opposition to too much government power and too much

(01:16:15):
corporate power. Simply, you know, Reagan understood that power can
neither be destroyed nor created, It can only be moved around.
And since the nineteen thirties up until recently, power has
been steadily moving away from the citizenry towards the national government.
And Reagan reversed has sent it back. But then Obama

(01:16:37):
and Bush and Fortune book Bushes and because they were
status and they are elitists and Biden have been reversing
that tide and moving power back to Washington away from
the citizenry. So, and what does Trump want to do.
He's about personal freedom, He's about personal liberty, which makes

(01:17:00):
him you know, calling him a fascist is stupid and nonsense.
But Hillary Clinton is stupid and nonsense. Go anyway, So
I lost my train of thought, fellows. But is that
Trump is simply following on logically what Goldwater did in

(01:17:21):
nineteen sixty three, sixty four in the sixties, and what
Reagan you know one in nineteen eighty and tried and
did you know what he did? What he did shrink
the federal government. He did grow the peacetime economy. And
now Trump is on you know, a direct line to
do the same is is to you know, he is

(01:17:43):
a federalist. He doesn't articulate, but he is a federalist.
He does believe in power to the states and localities
and not to the national government.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Greig Surely joining us, a Reagan historian, talking about the
sixtieth anniversary took place yesterday of Ronald Reagan's time for
choosing And you know what, Greg, I mean, there's this
debate that goes on constantly within the Republican Party today.
Would Ronald Reagan like Donald Trump? I think he probably would.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
Well, that was That's why I think that was a
great interview, because he's saying, yes, people use populism as
some kind of pejorative that you're not. You know, you
don't have a runner in the water, you don't have
a you know, the party platform doesn't matter. You're just
you're just looking for the popular sentiment. No, no, no,
it's the party is for the people. It's the people

(01:18:32):
are still in charge, not the machine, not the establishment.
And I thought that he did a great job of
describing why Reagan himself, by that definition of a populace
being pointing towards and empowering the people, is exactly what
he was. And that is what Donald Trump is.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
And if you look at the similarities between the two men,
Reagan was four tax cuts, yeah, donald Trump was four
tax cuts. Matter of fact, did we get the biggest
tax cut with Donald Trump at the head and he's
willing to cut him again? Well, I mean, what do
you what do you propose over the weekend? Eliminating theme
come texts? Yeah that sign me up.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
No, look, I'm telling you the kind of efficiencies if
given the opportunity that he's going to find. And here
I love this might sound like a small thing, but
funding your own transition team, because by the way, this
isn't this isn't people getting ahead of themselves. The Romney
campaign had a transition team working, and the Harris campaign
has a transition team right now. They're all doing that

(01:19:30):
because when you get if you win, you got to
start moving pretty quick. But he president, former president Trump's
doing it differently in that he's funding his own He's
not using all the lobbyists and all the establishment infrastructure
there's usually put that all together. He has broken that mold.
And that's another reason why the establishment is really upset
with Trump and his candidacy is he's not using the

(01:19:53):
set federally funded transition team processes that they've always used
for newcomers. He's not using Yeah, well he's been through
it once. Here's the other thing he's doing. He refuses
to have the security briefs shared with him every day
because he knew if he did, they try to set
him up. And when they had that leak of the
Israel's plan to go after Iran, they couldn't blame him

(01:20:15):
because he was never privy to it. And he did
that on purpose knowing that they would try to do
that to him.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
He's learning this time, Yes, he is, he is learning,
all right, mare Coming up Rod and Gregg here on
Utah's Talk Rady on one oh five nine k NRS.
Just another reminder. Coming up well week from today, we'll
be wrapping up Rod and Gregg's Minute to Win It Now.
It takes place election Eve six pm. Calling out all
candidates for any political office here in the state of Utah.

(01:20:41):
We're going to give you one minute to call into
the show and make an appeal to voters. Now, we
do put a stopwatch on you with a buzzer, so
if you go over sixty seconds, ah, you're done.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
And I'm going to give you a tip, folks, and
not that you need one, but let's just take it
not from me, but from Donald J. Trump often to Yes,
if you've written down a script and you're just trying
to fly through it as fast as you can, it's
not going to come across. Just just mate whatever doors
you've knocked, whatever experiences you've had, just try to just

(01:21:13):
try to capsulize it into that one sixty second plea
and bring it from the heart. And if you do that,
it'll be better than trying to get more information in
in the fastest amount of time, as much information as
you can possibly within sixty second day.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
Don't don't run down a litany of talking points or
what you would do right, just speak. I'm with you
on this, Greg, Just speak from the heart. Tell why
you're running, what you would like to do without you know,
coming down with a laundry list of things that most
likely you won't be able to do by yourself. That's right,
that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
Just to be a genuine person because we just we're
also busy this democratically elected republic. We just need someone
you know, on the clock watching the Henhouse for us
and just tell us that why you want to do
it and what you're going to do when you're on
the clock. And I think that's that's what that's just
my advice for whatever it's worth.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Your head to California this weekend, Is that correct? I
am in two weeks or this weekend, right this weekend?
You ready for this? I think we touched on I'm
coming Las week No, okayo. Two refineries that produce fourteen
percent of California's gasoline are set to close down because
of regulatory pressure.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
Oh but I thought the Harris administration and everything that
we were doing so well in this front.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Yeah, I'm sure that's going to contribute to lower gas
prices in California.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
That'll be great. Valero may shut down two of US
refineries with existing closures already requiring California to import eight
percent of its supply, the state could soon face a
greater dependence on refined imports. That's a brilliant move. Unbelievable.
They just I don't know they do this, and I
love this. I wish we'd do this here in the

(01:22:48):
state of Utah. Any tax that we can get rid of,
I'm happy North Dakota voters may and most property taxes,
government programs could face huge cuts. Amen. An end of that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Is it a blessing in disguise that that that Biden
actually won in twenty So all the all the theories,
all the things they wanted to do, they got to do,
and then just for all the damage it's caused. We're
not talking theory anymore. We're not warning people what they're
capable of. We're living through the consequences. Is that actually,
in a net net good thing that people have kind
of see it? I kind of think so it is

(01:23:22):
all right?

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
That does it for us tonight, Head up, shoulders back.
May God bless you and your family and this great
country of ours. Thank you for joining us tonight. We'll
talk to you to month

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