The Rod and Greg Show: Dems Crush GOP; Melania vs. Hilary; Huge Decline in Illegal Immigration

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The trip, the whirlwind trip to New York and back
in what twenty four hours?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Yeah, it was thirty five thirty five from the from
the Red Eye to JFK from Salt Lake City back
Sunday morning, nine am, nine oh five. Yeah, it was
a whirlwind. But I've got a lot of observations from
that fight, well, from the whole experience in New York City.
Your host has been your roving reporter. I've been eyes
on the ground in New York City because all that

(00:24):
warm collectivism that Merrimm Donnie wants. I got some things
to report back to you that I saw with my
own ice.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
And something happened to the fight that nobody has ever
seen in their life. And we'll get to that in
a minute. We've got a lot to get to, of course,
we'll get to the latest and the disappearance of Savannah
Guthrie's mother. Savannah Guthrie if you don't know, if you
ever watched the Today Show on NBC, she's one of
the co hosts. Yes, her mother, who lives in Tucson,
has disappeared.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Weird story.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Neighbors. Neighbors called and said, where's your mom? Because your
very religious person goes to church about three times a week,
did not show up on Sunday. They went to her home,
she was nowhere to be found. Police at first did
know if she had wandered off, but her family says
she doesn't have any of dementia issues whatsoever. And now
they're calling it a crime scene. But that's about all

(01:11):
we know right now. So that's that's a wild story.
And we've got a lot of other crazy stories to
tell you about today. New pulling out on the midterm elections.
We'll talk about Melania versus Hillary.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, both are making statements at the same time, and
you can imagine the tone and tenor of each will
be very different.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Speaking of the tone and tenor, we'll talk about what
happened at the Grammys last night. Who cares?

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Who cares?

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Who cares?

Speaker 3 (01:36):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:37):
You know? We'll get into that. Plus, it's always your
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Speaker 3 (01:57):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I saw this headline today in the newspaper. I didn't
realize this has happened, Greg, but there was you were
at this boxing match yes Saturday night, and the headline
was boxer hit so hard knocks his hair off. Yeah,
And I went, huh, what that's true? So would you
would you share more information about what happened?

Speaker 2 (02:18):
So, folks you saw him Friday. At the end of
the show, I mentioned that I was taking my son Junior.
We were going to New York City to Madison Square
Garden for a big fight.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
And it was a big price fight. But they have
an undercart and so they have a number of fights
that are building up for it. Well, we were present
for the whole all the fights, including the undercart, and
we're watching these heavyweights, and heavyweight division's gotten kind of
bad over there there. So used to have the Mike
Tyson's and the you know, and Muhammad ali Was and
George Foreman and but anyway that that that they're all
just so just they're like sumo wrestlers stand out there

(02:49):
now and they're clenching in the first round. So it's
a very very boring fight. They're just on and my
son Holden, who's he's you know, he's a boxing fan.
I think he's like, what twenty three, twenty nine, so
he knows what he's looks. He says to me, what
is up with that guy's hair? And I didn't see anything,
and I went, you know, because I was watching the ring,
but I could look up at the jumbo trun of
for one to closer, and I know what he's talking

(03:09):
about it and I look up and again, this is
a fight. It's probably in the six or seventh round,
so boring fight, such a boring fight. All of a sudden,
I look and this boxer gets hit. His name is
his nickname is Big Baby, And I kid you not, folks.
His hair or what I thought to be his hair,
stood up off of his forehead and went straight up
in the air, but still touched in the back, so
it doesn't go flying off. It just flaps open like

(03:32):
it's a lid, and it's sitting straight up and then
it comes down. And it was such a boring fight.
All of Madison Square Garden at the same time just
roars and laughter. We just absolutely start laughing, and I
am just like I Honestly, I don't care how long
you've been watching fights, you have never seen a moment
like that. And everyone's just dumped on it. Everyone's looking

(03:53):
at each other like is that real? So the round ends, yeah,
And I'm saying to my son, look, because they have
these inspectors that listen in the rent in the corner
to make sure that the boxer's you know, okay, and
all that. I'm saying, there is no way they can
continue to fight with that. Things just gonna flap and
distract the whole fight. They can't leave that loose piece
of you know, that rug. He's got a rug on
his head. So the bell rings and he gets up

(04:16):
and he takes his gloves and he rips it off
the back of his head because he had it glued
on there, and he throws it into the crowd and
the crowd catches it. And for the rest of the night,
people are taking that hair piece and they're putting it
in a seat to watch the fight. They're passing it along.
This hair piece is now being circulated all over Madison
Square Garden, which is, by the way, an incredible venue.

(04:37):
I've seen a lot of fights. I've never been to
Madison Square Garden. What an event that was. But this
hair piece is making it round. It made it up
to about five rows in front of me. Wow, I
mean that's and I you know, it was far, but
it was anyway, it was surreal and but yeah, and
so then the pictures of him, because he has like
his normal hair, that was kind of it was kind
of faded into he looks like a friar because he's

(04:59):
got this hair a ring around his head. The rest
of the fight, which also was very distracting, but he
won that fight, so he has that going for him.
But I don't know that that man will be known
for anything in his life other than that moment in
Madison Square Guarden.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
We'll see if we get that posted up on our
x space. We need to do that.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
And we should put my picture up the aftermath because
I took that picture so was I've.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Never seen anything like that. At the headline, I love
the headline boxer punched so hard, knocks his hair off.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
I tried testing my wife. I tried texting Queen Bee
after it happened and it hadn't made the news yet,
and she's like she didn't believe me talking about nobody,
Nobody could get their head around what I was saying.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Wow, she just kind of just kind of crazy. One
of your many adventures. If we have time in the
show a little bit later on today, we'll talk about
some of the things New.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
York is worth mentioning. I will just say that, Well.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Let's on a much more serious note. Savannah Guthrie's missing mother. Uh,
she desperately needs daily medication to simply survive. Authority say,
they're adding that they now believe the eighty four year
old woman is a victim of crime. At first they
didn't quite sure, but they saw some things inside the home.

(06:10):
She basically lest everything there greg including the medication that
she needs. The county sheriff there in Pima County, Arizona,
says Nancy Guthrie. Again, she's eighty four year old. Eighty
four years old is in need of medication, medication that
if she doesn't have it in twenty four hours, it
could be fatal. So what a bizarre story.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
But when an individual is missing, I could see if
someone they found her harmed in the home, robbed, But
if I just I don't we don't have enough details,
I guess, but I don't know what what someone would
do would take to kidnap an eighty four year old? Yeah,
I don't know what that. I mean if they're not
if it's from not ransom, I mean, what is the crime?
I think, what would you do with to take a

(06:53):
woman like take an eighty four year old woman needs
a walker? Have no idea what's the strategy there? I don't.
It is a bizarre story.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
And she didn't have any mental acuity issues whatsoever. Apparently
finding her daughter says she's sharp as attack. You know,
she had some physical challenges being eighty four years old,
but you would think, well, she just wandered off. They
don't believe that's the cake. They believe that a crime
has occurred, but they just don't know what's behind it.
At this point, Wow, where the poor woman is. The

(07:20):
community has responded. Everybody is out looking and searching. They're
going through the area around there in Tucson where she lives.
Nothing yet, So.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
I guess she was last spoken to her scene on Saturday.
And the reason that it was discovered, because over a
weekend it can get kind of scary, is that she's
a faithful church goer, and so when their church services
were held on Sunday. She was not in attendance, which
was very unusual for her not to be there, and
so people began to reach out and that's when they've
discovered that same day that she was no longer there.

(07:49):
And then yeah, I'm sorry, go ahead, and I just
to say they're hot on the trail sooner than you
know it might be.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
And Savannah Guthrie was scheduled to co host the Olympic
coverage with The Today Show. They were expected to be
in Italy Wow for their coverage this weekend. Yes, that's
up in the air. I guess it is, depending on
what happens to her. Poor mom. She is not going there,
so just she just disappeared and nobody can seem to
find her at this point.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, yea. And yeah, she's a well known so when
you hear a story like this, stories like that will
happen all the time. We see crime going down, But
I think stories like that just remind us that it's
there's just bad people out in this world, and there's
just it is a scary world. It feels like it's
getting a little scarier, not just politically, but I just
think there's a lot going on and then, so this

(08:36):
is this highlights. It's someone that we know from television
when it's their mother, we all experience that that crime
at the same time, or at least the story of
that crime at the same time. And I think that's
that's not stargazing or putting her on a pestal. That's
just a collective acknowledgement that something as bad as wrong
to this woman from her home. We all are hearing

(08:56):
that that that incident, no matter who it is, but
we're all hearing it same time because of who her
daughter is. So it's a good reminder that the world's
a scary place.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
And if she is kidnapped, if she is harmed, it all,
she's eighty four years old. What would they want with
an eighty four year old woman?

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Maybe bank accounts, I honestly don't know. I can't figure
it out.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Well.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Her purse was there, left intact, Everything was okay. But
they're saying something Smithy, something We aren't seeing something here. Yeah,
it's sad that It's sad. All right. We'll keep you
up to date if anything new develop on that develops
on that this afternoon. Now when we come back, we'll
talk about the midterm elections and a pull out today
that Greg and I are going, huh, we'll talk about it. Yeah,

(09:35):
we'll talk about it coming up. Thanks for joining us.
The Monday afternoon edition of The Rod and Greg Show
on Talk Radio one oh five nine kayn RS. They
are calling in All American Halftime Show to air alongside
the super Bowl. It will feature you just heard, kid
Rock Frandley, Gilbert Lee, Bryce, and country artist Gabby Barrett.
They're going to do their own alternative show.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
And I've seen this over the years. I've seen others
stiftions try look to grab viewers there their attention during
that halftime you know, super Bowl performance, but take that
time to see something else. One year there was a
boxing match. They tried to defit inside of that. But anyway,
I can't think of a better year to find alternative
programming during the super Bowl halftime show than this year,

(10:20):
because I think that they've already called the shot. They
want to offend, they want to divide, They want to
find some themes and some messages that I think everyday
football fans who love football are not going to connect
with or even they don't want to be bothered with this.
This is this is our big game of the year,
and apparently.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
The NFL is, without a doubt, the most popular game
in the inst country right now, easily. Why alienate probably
half to two thirds of your audience with Bad Bunny
and Green Day?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
This might be this might be the tipping point. I
think that the NFL is going to receive it if
it's if it's as bad as as Bad Bunny promises
it will be. I do think that people will feel
I think that the NFL is going to feel that
people were mistreated at their time and that Super Bowl
what they did with their time during the halftime was
misused and it was not appropriate. And I think that's

(11:08):
it shouldn't be a platform for someone's political you know,
messaging and everything else. And I just think that this
might be what gets Roger Goodell, the commissioner of the NFL,
to wake up.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, I hope, so, Greg, I sure do hope. So
all right, there are a lot of interesting polls out today,
but this one really you know, it hit Greg and
I were going, really is this fake news? But apparently
Fox News released a poll today and some people are
saying it should set off alarm for Republicans heading into
the midterms, The polls showed that Democrats now lead the
generic congressional ballot by six points, the highest they've ever seen.

(11:42):
Among the issues that people are supportive of the Democrats,
on twenty two percent say they think the Democrats would
do a better job when it comes to transgender issues.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
This is where I have questions.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
I Well, joining us on our Newsmaker line to talk
about that more is Terry Shilling, President of the American
Principles Project two percent on transgender issues.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Terry Well, I think what you guys are talking about,
you know, is obviously the Fox News poll, but you're
probably looking at the line that says that Democrats have
a twenty two point advantage when it comes to transgender
issues the American people.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
Look, As someone that has spent seven figures on polling
in his life, I can tell you those types of
questions don't mean anything, primarily because they're incredibly confusing. The
reality is is that if you ask someone on the
phone who's better at taxes, who's better at guns, who's
better at transgender issues? The voters that get confused the

(12:40):
Democrats are.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Better on pushing the agenda for the transgender industry.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
The period they want the transgender industry to grow from
four and a half billion to one hundred trillion, you know.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
What I mean. Like so it gets confusing with voters.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
But you know, look my advice. I hope Democrats are listening,
and I hope they take this. Please please please run
a unabashedly on the transgender issue. Run on putting men
in girls sports, run on giving more children and tex changes,
and run on paying for it with taxpayer dollars, because
I guarantee you it's not as popular as what the
trans industry is trying to paint right now.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
So the other issue that surprised me was trusting And
maybe it's the way the questions asked because I couldn't
agree more about that issue and push pulling or whatever
it might be. But they trust the Democrats more on affordability?
Do they not remember the Biden years? I don't know
a single indicator. Even if things are tough now, and
I'm not saying they aren't, nothing measurable was better during

(13:34):
Biden's years than we have right now. How on earth
could anyone say, well, I want the guys that were
doing it before, I trust them more to They wouldn't
even talk about affordability. They said, you were ignorant. If
you didn't think you were, you had it good.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
No, that's exactly right. And they kept telling us how
the inflation rate was falling, and let you know, and
we all knew that the prices were staying.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
We're still going up, right.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yes, Look, this is an early poll in the midterms.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
I just want to tell tell you guys, though.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
These midterm elections are super tough for the incumbent party
to retain control in bull chambers. It's only happened two
times in American history since nineteen thirty eight. It's very rare.
So what we're seeing actually is Democrats are all fired up.
They're super upset. They're very mad that President Trump is
deporting Somalians who are embezzling billions of dollars from taxpayers.

(14:23):
They're super mad about a lot of things, including getting
boys at a girls' sports. But the reality is is
that Republicans need to get more fired up because that's
where the subscreptancy is coming.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Is.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
Republicans aren't as fired up as Democrats are. But that
can change. They can change quickly, especially for Republicans keep fighting
for a very strong agenda on our family. I'm telling you, guys,
I'm more worried about Republicans waffling and getting scared ahead
of the midterms.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
If they do that, the bottom's going.

Speaker 6 (14:51):
To fall out.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
They've had a great agenda so far. They've been protecting
our kids, cleaning up the schools. They just need to
figure out the housing problems and the affordable the casis
that they can do that, which, by the way, they are.
I don't know if you guys have seen this, but
under Biden, we lost twenty nine hundred dollars worth of
purchasing power in the center. That meant that wages weren't
growing as fast as prices. Under Trump, we've gotten seven

(15:12):
hundred and fifty dollars of that back, right, and that
was a few months ago. So I'm sure it's doing
even better. But voters need to be patient, Republicans need
to get more fired up, and Republicans in office cannot
begin to waffle.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Terry greg and I have talked about this. It appears
at times to us that you have Donald Trump who
is doing a lot. I mean, he's just doing a great,
great job. But you know, the Republicans of Congress are
are they doing anything. I mean, we're kind of looking going,
what are you doing? What are you doing to help
the president? What are you doing to help the American people?
And we don't see much of that other than what

(15:45):
Donald Trump is trying to do.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
Well, I'll tell you what. There's this really terrible thing
that's going on in DC is called the filibuster, right,
and at this point, the filibuster has been so destroyed
and perverted that it's not what it was originally intended
to do. It was essentially the filibuster was there to
make sure that everyone could read the bill in time,

(16:08):
and that if the vote came up, that no one
was just rushing something through with everyone reading it. Now
it's just being used to hold up any single piece
of meaningful legislation. I really think Republicans need to reconsider
breaking the filibuster. We know for a fact that if
Democrats retake the White House and they have the House
and send it again, they are breaking that filibuster and

(16:29):
they're going to make Puerto Rico estate, They're going to
make d C estate, and god knows what other territories
they're going to make into a state. Because Democrats like
to lock in their victories. They're going to stack the
Supreme Court. The reason we haven't got anything done is
because we haven't broken the filibuster. And you've got to
have sixty votes to pass anything meaningful.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
It's just tough.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
So Republicans are in a position, do we break the
filibuster and risk Democrats breaking it themselves. They're going to
break the filibuster, right, we know this. We know that
they're going to do that. So I don't know. I
the filibuster is the biggest thing, but it's a double
edged sword for sure.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
So the Texas State Senate race that happened in Texas,
that was what was described as a solid Republican seat
that the Democrats have flipped in that state. I saw.
I saw some analysis of that and they said that
the Republican turnout was anemic, that there wasn't any excitement
to come out in that race, and that's that contributed

(17:25):
to to the Democrat taking what was otherwise a Republican
seat in Texas. Is that, I mean, it's hard to
get excited about a Republican Congress when you do have
filibuster and other issues. You havent of issues in the
in the House where you have these a minority of
the House Congress, Republican Congressional Delicate Caucus voting with the
Democrats to pass spending bills. Can this Congress excite the

(17:47):
American people the way Donald Trump has and can they
get something under their belt to prove to the American people
they're worthy to return.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Look, I think if I'm a Republican in the House.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
What I what I'm doing every single day is I'm
doing public events and so I'm doing town halls, I'm
doing met and greets, I'm going back home to the press,
and I'm making sure that voters in my district know
what I support and that it's being held up by
Democrats in the Senate. Right, I think it's that simple.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
And to go back to this Texas special.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
Election with the state Senate race there, you're exactly right.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
In twenty twenty four, when Donald.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
Trump won by.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
Seventeen percentage points in that district, there were over three.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
Hundred and forty thousand votes cast in that election. In
this election on Saturday, there were less than one hundred thousand,
or is right around one hundred thousand votes. The turnout
in general was aneemac Democrats got all of their people
to pulls and Republicans didn't even get half of what
they got to turn.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Out on our newsmaker Lion Terry Shilling. He is president
of the American Principals Project. Here on Talk Radio one
oh five nine Cannas more coming up on the Rowden
Gregg Show. He was on The Handity Show Friday night
and he was asked about Governor Timmy Little Timmy up
in Minneapolis, Minnesota, right asked Mumbaum. He said, Tim Walls
is a less masculine version of Hillary Clinton.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
I love it. Yeah, And what's weird is that Kamala
Harris showing her judgment. She picked him because she thought
he was the most manly of her options, and not
the astronaut from Kelly from Arizona Center, Kelly's she picked him.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Or little pet from South Bend, Indiana.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
I know, isn't that something? I mean, he just he
picked and he's he did not show.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Well. No, well, what a weekend it was for the
first Lady and a former first lady. First of all,
Hillary Clinton wrote this scathing comment in the Atlantic magazine.
If anybody reads that thing anymore, attacking people of a
Christian belief and then you have the premiere of Malania
Trump's brand new documentary, which, by the way, pulled in
eight million dollars, the highest amount of money pulled in

(19:47):
by a documentary in more than ten years. Joining us
on our Newsmaker line to talk about this is our
good friend Kevin mccullaugh, nationally syndicated host and podcaster. Kevin,
Thanks for joining us. What do you make of the
stories this weekend on the Two Ladies?

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Well, it was interesting because on Thursday I attended, along
with several thousand people across the country, privately invited screenings
of Milania Trump's new documentary simply called Milania Twenty Days
to History. And it was a documentary produced by Brett Ratner,
who produced the Rush Hour movies, and beautifully cinematographered, beautifully

(20:26):
laid out, impeccable attention to detail and every like every
camera shot, not that Milania is hard to look at
to begin with, but they knew.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
How to pick those.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Those just superlative, you know, angles of light and everything.
Every every frame of that movie is just a beautiful
shot of film. And I thought this is kind of
interesting because the very next day in the Atlantic, which
I guess still has a few people reading it. Hillary
Clinton was asked to penanop ed, and as I kind

(20:58):
of looked at that movie and kind of what Malania's
weekend was made of and what Hillary was advocating for
in the Atlantic, I couldn't help but draw some comparisons
in contrast between the two, and so I just felt
like I had to say something about it because everybody
on social media was dogging the documentary, saying, oh, it's
not going to do well. They're paying people fifty dollars

(21:21):
a seat to fill up the theaters, which wasn't true
that they were it was going to flop. One person
on social media said it's been set up to flop
so hard. It finished actually third for the weekend at
total box office total box office, so all the movies
that were out there, it finished third place, and it

(21:42):
finished first first amongst documentaries, and first in the highest
debut weekend for a documentary since the Taylor Swift two
hour movie concert that she filmed from her Heirs tour,
which had a built in fan base of I don't
know several billion people that went to go see it
the night that had opened. So in terms of all
of the context of how people were saying this was

(22:04):
going to fail. It did anything but that, And I thought,
you know, this is this is kind of you know,
the run of the meal, the mill for the for
the Trump experience. The Trump's put out a higher quality product.
They actually are very proud of the work that they've
done in it, and they end up getting, you know,

(22:25):
people that hate them, just ripping them from stamp to stern. Meanwhile,
Hillary's pinning this op ed in Atlantic in The Atlantic
where she said that, uh, you know, the stuff that's
going on in Minneapolis and with Ice is completely defying
the core Christian teaching and the core Christian belief for
the core belief of Christianity, which she then described as

(22:48):
being mercy, compassion, and dignity, And I thought, this woman
doesn't know what she's talking about. First of all, Christians
don't claim that we're extraorord nearly blessed with anything. We're
all sinners. The only way someone becomes a Christian is
if you admit your need for Jesus's reconciliation and redemption

(23:09):
to work in you. So you have to admit that
you're a sinner to begin with. And from there we
go to say Thank you to Jesus for dying on
the cross for us and becoming our savior and accepting
his will for our life above our own will for
our lives have nothing to do with dignity or compassion
or mercy for our fellow man. That's what humanism teaches,
that you can be good enough to everybody around you

(23:30):
that you can work your way to heaven. It doesn't
work that way, and anybody that understands Christian theology would
automatically know that.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Well, you and I are tracking the same. I don't
go to the church because I'm better. I go because
I want to be better. I mean, that's just the rule.
But how on brand is it for Hillary Clinton, former
first Lady, former senator from New York to be lecturing, scalding,
just as she's always done. When Bill Clinton ran in
ninety two, she said, look, I condescendingly so I could
have stayed home and bake cookies and held teas, and

(23:58):
I decided to do something with myself, really alienating every mom,
every homemaker in America. And then she talks about the
you know, the deplorables. Even later, she just is always lecturing, scolding,
As you point out in your article and then you
see Milania and you see this documentary that rolls out.
Is there any version of Milania that you see who

(24:19):
is capable of some of the vitriol that spews out
of Hillary Clinton's mouth? And what would you say is
the genuine difference between Milania Trump and Hillary Clinton?

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Well, I think it's interesting because I don't think Milania
claims to live a perfect life either. And I know
that when she was coming out through the modeling ranks
and other things, she had things that she wasn't proud
of that you know, occurred in her past. And like,
it's not the fact that anybody lives a perfect life,
but it is very much the fact of what we
do with our lives now when we have the opportunity

(24:52):
to do something. And for Hillary, you're right, it's it's
she's the She's the land, the lady and baggy pants,
standing next to the lake telling all.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
The kids don't go in the water like it.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
That's that's kind of the permanent role of who she is.
Whereas Malania talks in this documentary about wanting to bring
about beauty, bring about a better world, she's going to
reinvigorate her be best campaign from the first term. She's
going to add to that another initiative that's going to
more specifically address sex trafficking. She's gonna She's already been
working on revenge porn and getting some things tightened up

(25:30):
with internet rights and stuff like that to try to
protect girls on a greater level. They did some they
had some success with that in the first year of
this administration. But the point is she is actively using
everything about who she is and her resources and everything
else to try to make the world better. And Hillary

(25:52):
literally wants to protect the traffickers, the rapists, the murderers
and do it in the name of Jesus, which is
crazy because Jesus said, if you understand what it means
to worship Me truly, you're going to protect women and children,
widows and orphans, and those are literally the people that
illegal immigration or to make all of the politically correct

(26:15):
really satisfied with this, people who enter the country illegally,
that's the group of people that they hurt more than
any other, the women and the children and the innocence
in our society. So who's really playing the Christian card here,
That's just my question.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, Kevin, we've watched Hillary for too many years. Now,
what is she so angry at? I mean, why is
she so angry?

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Well, I think, like a lot of Marxists that lived
a covert life, she had a desire to shape the
country into a completely different image than what it was.
Hillary's personal politics, at least, this is my kind of
take on who she is. She was far more like
Barack Obama than she was Bill Clinton in terms of

(27:02):
her personal viewpoint of things. And I think the fact
that she probably I mean, there's no doubt she latched
her wagon too, Bill's rising star because she knew it
would take her places. And she got to be a senator,
and she got to be the Secretary of State, and
she got to travel the world again, not as first lady,
but as a you know, a cabinet member. And I

(27:23):
think that she is very enamored with all the power
and the attention and everything. And I think she thought
she really was going to be president and Donald Trump
kind of put a permanent stake through that vampire's heart
and said this is not happening. And I think that
she's probably never going to get over that. I just
I don't think she has the capacity to look past

(27:44):
that and to say, you know, I can move on
from that.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Nationally syndicated a host and podcaster Kevin McCullough joining us
on The Roddin Greg Show, and I think he spot on.
I don't think Hillary has ever gotten over losing to
Donald Trump in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
She was honre before she ran. She's been a mean
woman since we've met her in ninety two and it's
never gotten better, never got better. She gets older, she
doesn't lose energy being mean and scolding and electury.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
I think she'd calm down or really ically.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Is she and Grandma is Chelsea giving her any grand
kids to chill out? I think she's just so bitter. Yes,
it's just.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Tough, all right, Mary coming up, Rod and Greg with
you on this Monday afternoon in Utah's talk Radio one
oh five, Dine Okay and r s an All American
halftime show to counter what the NFL is going to
be putting on Sunday. And the show will feature kid
rock Branley Gilbert, who you just heard, along with Lee
Bryce and country artist Gabby Barrett on that. So it'll

(28:43):
be interesting to see how that goes.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
I wanted to bring this up because we just we
had the interview with Kevin mccallough talking about Milania and
her documentary and how about being received or treated versus
the shrieking, you know, angry lecturing scolding Hillary Clinton in
the contrast between to for you know, one former first lad.
But here's the thing. Over the weekend, I do this
for you folks because you don't have to. I have

(29:06):
the New York Times and I try to watch or
read their stories and I saw I saw the headline
and the highlight. The headline says, Milania arrives with strong
box office showing for a documentary, and I thought, well,
how fair of them. It is the most pop it's
probably the most successful premiere of a documentary in at
least a decade. It was third overall films released over

(29:28):
the weekend. So I started to read it because I
want to. I just want to hear them finally show,
you know, give give Malania and the documentary some credit.
And this is what I found out. They play They
lay all of the success, the box office success of
this show, of this documentary in the first weekend to
a Netflix seventy million dollar promotion campaign, and they say

(29:50):
that absent Netflix promoting this documentary. It wouldn't have done
well well to that. I say, I don't know what
box office premiers don't have by you know, budgets tore
to show you that they're coming out. And I don't
know anyone that's ever attributed the success critical success, popularity
to the promotion company or to the money spent promoting

(30:12):
the film. They usually talk about the film, the content itself.
How many big how many big productions have had tons
of money thrown at it, hyped up and then have
flopped at the box office called advertising, Yeah, that's happened,
not this time. And then finally, here's the quote from
inside the story. It said, this is a political investment,
not a for profit movie venture, said David A. Gross,

(30:36):
a film consultant. They're saying that Netflix is doing this
for political gain, it is not for entertainment. However, they
made more money than they spent in the promotions, and
they have not even begun to stream. Netflix does many
of their productions straight for streaming on their Netflix streaming channel.
This was this had a theatrical release and they're already
in the black, and but that's before they put it

(30:57):
on Netflix. So a strange measuring stick used by The
New York Times to describe the success of Milania as
the documentary. But we're not surprised, But I just wanted
you to know they're still is leftists, that there's still
the regime media they can't change. They can't change no
matter what happens. Even if the documentary they said it
would flop, it's succeeded beyond it, but anyone believed it would,

(31:19):
and they still can't say anything but bad about it.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
We were just talking about Hillary and her article, yeah,
reaking news tonight. The former President Bill Clinton and Hillary,
the ex Secretary of State have now agreed to depositions
they long resisted about the Epstein files, so they are
going before Congress to answer some questions.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Those things I missed that I was. I was there
new this weekend files that all broke well, I was,
and my whirl went toward in New York City and
Mason Square Garden with my son, so I missed it all.
But it's some shady stuff. It's some dark stuff in there,
and it's very sad. We'd evil, but.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
We have got a lot to get to in our
number two. So we invite you to stick with US
on talk radio one oh five nine n R. My
wife gets into it. Yeah, I mean, I mean there's
like I'll get into the hockey. Yeah, that'll be fun

(32:17):
to watch. Yeah, we may see a rematch of the
US and Canada and.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
In the many in the mini rink they're playing in,
is that what they're playing They were so behind in
the construction. Turns out it's not a regulation size rink.
So you got that many rink. Yeah, many rinks like
running into each other. No one would helpe. I don't
hope there's a little more violence.

Speaker 6 (32:35):
You know.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
They say, it's like, you know, you put everyone in
a smaller contained area. Everyone starts to get a little
more edgy blue chippy.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, that's probably why you don't get into it. Yeah,
some of it, I do, some of it. I don't.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
I mean, I mean, there was a time in my
life where I would be on the edge of my
seat over figure skating. I mean I was watching all
the jumps, all the twists. I was into it. I
remember Nancy Kerrigan, I remember the I remember all of them.
I remember Christy I'm a Gucci I mean I remember
I loved I like for once every four years because
I was on every four. I was an ice skating fan.

(33:07):
I would watch it cheer for America, of course, for America,
figure skate and I and I was totally into it
individual as well as couples. I watch all that. I
wanted us to. I wanted America to win all of it.
If it's at America, I was in. I loved it all.
And now I'm just like, eh, I don't know what happened.
I know it's not a conscious decision either. It's just
I don't I hear it's coming up. And I didn't

(33:28):
even know it because I have any I don't even care.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Can I tell you what I think is so funny
about the Olympics anymore? And coverage of the Olympics without
a doubt. The United States is the most powerful, richest
nation in the world. Yes, right, we think it's a
big time when we beat the daylights out of the
rest of the world. Now in the summer and winter,
look at America. We kill them every time. What's the

(33:50):
big deal? Shouldn't we be doing this?

Speaker 2 (33:53):
You know, you're so right, So I mean, think about that.
In the summer games, boxing is boxing is a tough sport.
Boxing in the Olympics. There's so many, so much controversy
on how the judges judge that, because you know, these
judges from different countries tend to see things other people
from other countries don't. But that said, Ireland has done
incredibly well, and they don't have a very large population.

(34:14):
We got three hundred plus million people here. These Irish
kids were just whooping us. I know exactly he raised right.
It comes straight from the bar, from the pub, right
to the ring, and they're just gonna work it out.
But yeah, there's a lot of countries where their population
is so much smaller, but they they can hold their
own in these international games.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
But we still beat the tar out of everybody. And
apparently this is a surprise.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, well not, it's not. We're America. We're home of
the Brave, Land of the Free, Home of the Brave.
I expect to dominate in the Olympics.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
But I the only world sport that we can't seem
to do very well in hockey soccer.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Soccer.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Well, no, I'm proud of that. Wait, I know you
think it's a kind of like I don't like soccer.
There are a kazillion young American kids playing soccer then
why can't we put a team.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
It is competitive because when you swop like we have
to have to learn how to fall to the ground
having never been touched and grab your ankle and roll around,
you know. Yeah, and that's that we didn't We haven't
learned the art of that yet.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah, get right.

Speaker 7 (35:13):
So I hate to burst your bubble a little bit,
rod Oh. He raised twenty twenty two Winter Games metal count. Yes,
Norway was leading with thirty seven. Germany was twenty seven,
The United States was third.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, but Norway in Germany they live in snow.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Snow pivot, brod.

Speaker 7 (35:32):
It was against your saying they dominated, say we dominated, all.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Okay, let me go back. I'll say you in the
winter or in the summer Olympics, we dominate. Yeah for China.
I'm about to check that.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yeah, he raised his sports you know. Yeah, he had
his career deep in sports radio. So this man, you can't.
I used to think I could out. I could, I'd
have opinion and he rate didn't share it. I thought
I could absolutely pummel him with my facts and then
I he'd end up getting right. I hate even a
meant that on the air, But you can't really challenge
his uh sports acumen. He knows what he's talking about.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Okay, I'll give I still think we think it's a
big deal that the rest of you know, we beat
the tar out of the rest of them. Now, my
guess would be the Norwegians beat us on that cross
country thing they do.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
See, I don't care.

Speaker 7 (36:16):
That's the only one you're right about. The Summer Olympics. Yeah,
twenty four, US had one hundred and twenty six. The
next classes was China with ninety one.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah, that's the domination you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
All right. I wanted to start off this hour Greg
by reading you something and we're gonna play guess where
it came from? Okay, are you ready for this? For this,
I want to read two lines here, maybe three. If
the good people of Minnesota are finally able to shake
off the current invasion of thuggish federal immigration forces and
return to their normal lives, it will be because of

(36:50):
the way they have behaved in this crisis. The protests
have been peaceful, the attention has been constant, the motivation
has been justice. Utah should be pretty good at that too,
if it ever comes to it. Now, where did that
come from?

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Well, until it said Uton's, I would have said, you know,
Washington Post, New York Times, LA Times. But when they
talk about Uton's, I maybe City Weekly. That's that's the
most liberal rag we have.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Salt Lake Tribune.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Oh, second most liberal rag.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
It's an editorial today where they're saying, the protests have
been peaceful, the attention has been constant, the motivation has
been justice. Has anybody on the Salt Lake editorial board
to take it a look at a television monitor in
the last three weeks and you call that peaceful protesting?

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah, that's like you know, the big funny ones like
this is mostly a mostly peaceful protest. As you see
the building burning behind the reporter on CNN, that that
has the irate, the same irony when I when I
was working, when I was speaking and we were trying
to deal with Operation Real Grand. The Saltate Tribune offices
were in in that gateway area and they were being

(38:02):
physically accosted by the people that were in that area,
which were being run by drug cartels. And you know,
it was a homeless issue, but you had control of
that issue that area by the cartels and their human
and drug trafficking and they themselves as a newsroom, even
though they couldn't get away from their ideology and report it.
They themselves were being beaten and they would have to
dress up and dress down and have like their nice,

(38:25):
nicer clothes on underneath their coach whatever they were doing,
just so they wouldn't draw attention or be beaten up
or robbed. And so they've actually some of those people
that are still working there know what lawlessness feels like. Literally,
they've dealt with it in the most negative way. They
were never able to accurately report it then, and now
they're trying to again romanticize lawlessness and violence and fear

(38:47):
mongering and fomenting fear. And again, if you don't like
the laws that they are trying to enforce, have Congress
change the laws.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
That's what said.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
That's right, that's what he said. And it just makes
all the sense of more. If you don't like the
law enforce one of our federal laws, have Congress change
those federal laws to whatever it is that you think
ought to happen. But you know what that would look like,
an open border, the absolute every state becomes a border state.
The chaos, yeh, the chaos that ensued. They want to
continue and they need to because they want They have

(39:17):
lost it with the American people. The American people no
longer think the Democrats because they don't represent them or
common sense. So they need to bring in as many
people as they can to uh for apportionment for congressional seats,
so the blue states don't lose as many they need
it for because they want to see them ultimately vote
and then the electoral college certain percentage of votes can
carry the weight. So I would just say that the Democrats,

(39:41):
in order to be a party and to have any
kind of power, uh, they're willing to do what they're
doing right now, and that is shut down the federal
government from the people that taxpayers that we pay for
our federal government. And there are some things that the
federal government should do. They are shutting that down for
and on the behalf of illegal immigrants in this country
and the gall to an force our immigration laws that

(40:01):
are happening under this administration. That's that's we're being used.
At that point.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Do you think the lazy butts over the Salt Lake
Tribune bothered to look to see who's funding these demonstrations.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
No, And the organization funding their paper. There are so
called nonprofits. The same people funding the demonstrations are funding
their their paper. They and they get they get tax
deductions for it. You know, I mean, how bad is
it that liberals? You know, they they want to raise
everyone's taxes, but they want to find ways to not
pay any taxes themselves, contributing to the contributing to don't

(40:34):
you know funding the Tribune as a nonprofits the way
they do it.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yeah, we we should start a go fundmain site for
the Saltlate Tribune. Donate pennies to help them buy a television. Yes,
they may not have a television. Then you know, they
may be in the dark over there, so maybe they
need a television to see what is going on on
the streets of Minneapolis.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
I'd like them to go out there and try to
just and not really say who they are, because they
they're they're looking at people. If you're from Utah, you
look like they your ice there. They have they have
like program software programmers that want to go to lunch
and they're getting harassed for being an ice.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Well did you see what they did today? They have
constructed now in Minneapolis. It's the protesters entry points into
the city, so as you drive through, you have to
stop and tell them who you are. Now isn't now
to me that reminds me of Nazism? Or maybe they
can stop. Maybe they're doing the same thing. We're gonna
at the Nazis.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
We're gonna out Nazi the Nazis to stop the Nazis
from being Nazis. So we're gonna be more. We're gonna
be more like the Nazis to stop the Nazis from
being Nazis. Yeah, it makes perfect sense that party Again,
I know the midterms, it historically looks like the party
out of power in the White House wins. What would
you I'm not even happy with our Republicans in Congress,

(41:48):
but what is the alternative? The Democrats? This president, and
he's the only one making a difference. His administration would
be just vapor locked with impeachment after impeachment, with everything
they would do if they had to control that want
even one of the two bodies, the House or the Senate.
But I think the House is what's most at risk.
But why would you ever trade what has happened under

(42:09):
the Bide administration and what they even promised they'll do.
They said they're gonna they're gonna go after everyone on ice.
Everybody that's working for that administration right now is a
criminal in their eyes, waiting for them to launch lawfair
against everyone that's working for that administration right now. They've
promised that they're going to do this. Why would the
American people in any state say, that's what I need,

(42:29):
that's from Washington, That's what I need my tax parami
to go to. That's going to really move the needle
in my life and my kitchen table issues. It doesn't
make any.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Well, there's a plan behind all of this. We've got
a lot to get to this hour. If you want
to talk about the events of the weekend, maybe that
soul La Tribune editorial. Here's the headline on it. By
the way, Greg Utah's can follow the example of Minnesota
and engage in peaceful opposition to immigration Thuckery.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah, it's easeful operation.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Sure. All right, more coming up brought in Greg with
you on this Monday afternoon and Talk Radio one O
five nine. Okay, alright, and we've got to pull up
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take a poll, which halftime show are you going to
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to watch the NFL with bad Bunny. I just want
to see if he'll wear a dress.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
I want to know he has made some very I mean,
he says. If you want to understand what I'm saying,
you learn Spanish by the time when you get to this.
But here's the thing, so I think I know where
where we all want to watch. But those halftime commercials
now now they're starting to release them early, so you're
starting to see them before.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Yeah, we've seen the one on Pepsi, the one on Budweiser.
Both are very very good.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
By the way, you don't actually have to watch the
halftime show to see the halftime commercials, so that would
be I think that'd be the only reason why you'd
endure that. But I we'll see how We'll see how
it all rolls out. It'll be interesting. I really hope
this embarrasses Roger Goodell in the NFL. I do too,
I do anything he has stopped in.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
And again, we've got to poll up on our.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
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Speaker 1 (44:00):
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That's right. Have a vote, folks, and uh you have
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Speaker 1 (44:14):
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we put a lot of information on that page every day. Oh,
sanctuary cities. The states that have sanctuary cities or sanctuary
states are the states that are having all the trouble
right now? Right?

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Would you agree?

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (44:32):
A Harvard Harris poll. Harvard Harris is not a conservative
polling organization in any stretch of the imagination.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
That tells the word Harvard. Yeah, you know, that's not.
That is the left of center, that is a leftist.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Well, this is what the poll found. Greg overwhelming super
majority of Americans opposed the lawless, chaotic, and dangerous sanctuary
policies that have protected criminal illegal immigrants and fueled the
mob violence in Minneapolis and around the country. Here's what
the poll said. You ready for this?

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Ready?

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Do you think that local officials should hand over to
immigration authorities criminals in jail who are here illegally, or
should state and local officials not turn over criminals to deportation.
Thirty three percent say do not hand them over. Sixty
seven percent said hand them over.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
So are is Salt Lake City a sanctuary city?

Speaker 2 (45:31):
So I was just going to ask you, I think
the city is certainly. I think now they got a
new police chief. I think that doesn't rescribe to that.
But I do think that the city it's certainly as
politics are are that people have argued, is Utah's a state?
Do we have sanctuary state policies? I would argue that
we do in some form or fashion. I think the

(45:52):
driver's Privileged card.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Should do it.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
It is a big problem, right, I think. Please, one
of the things that we passed when I was there
that was taken away well after I left. This is
why they can't have nice things in the legislature. We
had a we had the verification of citizenship for the
for employee employees. I can't remember what it's called now,
but that was that we had a and it was
it was to protect against identity theft, to make sure

(46:15):
people were legal citizens to be here. That Uh no,
it's it's a it's it's a process that employers need
to go through. They got rid of it, verified, verified,
that's it verified. They got rid of it. And now
that saw a lot of when we passed that bill,
we saw a lot of improvement. So you have that,
you have a robust refugee organization, infrastructure that that's funded

(46:37):
inside the state, that that that put people here and
and domicile them. So we do have sanctuary state policies here,
but I think our law enforcement has not been on
that side. And I think there's We're not like Minnesota
or these blue states, but we do have some problems
on our state.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
You always liked that pole I just mentioned where sixty
seven percent say, you know, local authority should turn over
these criminals to right. Breaking it down party wise, okay,
eighty nine percent of the Republicans say hand them over,
eleven percent say no, Independent sixty two percent say hand
them over, thirty eight percent say no. This is the

(47:14):
one that will shock you. Fifty percent of Democrats say
hand them over.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Yeah. So you see the American people see this, so
they understand the Democrat Party has a problem in this.
They're one of their strong base of supporters or voters,
and their their grassroots have been organized labor people, the
everyday working class okay, who have been born. This would
include my family in Pittsburgh who were born believing that
the Democrats protected or looked out for the working man

(47:44):
and woman, Okay, and they feel they have to feel
absolutely betrayed by this party. This political party has no
interest in protecting the everyday person. They want, they want
their political power at the expense of normal, everyday people.
And that's so you're seeing that shift, and I think
it's I think it's it's not getting better for the Democrats.

(48:05):
But listen to this so breaking news. Chuck Schumer is
just announced today that he's going to force an extended
government shutdown if to Save Act by Senator Lee support
for it, yes, requiring proof of citizenship to vote, which
is about as bread and butter as you get that,
if that to bring that to the vote, to bring
that to the floor, He's going to force an extended

(48:27):
government shutdown if that Save Act comes to the floor
of the Senate. So the Democrats know they'll never win
an election again if only citizens vote. That's why they
need the Save Act to not pass. But they don't
want the floor vote because they don't want the public vote,
where they say no, we don't want any because they've
read the same pole as you're reading. They know they're
on the wrong side of America on this, and he's

(48:50):
threatening to take art taxpayer paid government, shut it down,
you know, extended to protect the illegal immigrants that they
want to vote illegally, anseling the votes of legal citizens
that do vote. So there you go.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
So what are the polls saying over the past few weeks.
First of all, the polls are showing that the average
Americans want anybody here who is ille illegally here tossed
out of the country. Remember that poll.

Speaker 6 (49:14):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Now we have this poll about sanctuary cities sixty seven percent.
And this is a Harvard Harris poll, folks, this isn't
a conservative polling organization found that sixty seven percent of
Americans want cities to hand over, or counties or states
people in this country illegally who have committed crimes. They
want them handed over to federal agents. Right, yes, including

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of those surveyed, fifty percent of the Democrats surveyed said
hand them over.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Yep. And and it's the independence you everybody needs to
get out the vote of their their their based Republicans
and Democrats, independents are the ones that really tip the
scales in certain states. I'm telling you right now, when
you see those high percentages of independence that say, would
you say sixty six, sixty sixty two, that is that
is so troubling for Democrats and it is a big

(50:02):
problem for them. I'll tell you this. I used to
be someone who thought maybe we should keep the filibuster
because it keeps that pendulum from swinging so wildly. Whoever
gets fifty one votes or actually fifty and if you
have the president vice president, you could have a you
could break a tie. I will tell you I believe
one hundred percent the filibuster is going away. It is
going to go away. It is a guarantee. We're just

(50:23):
talking about when as according to the Republicans doing it
because if we don't as crazy as these Democrats are
acting now, they don't have Senator Mansion from West Virginia
there anymore, they don't have Kristen Cinema, who also blocked
this from Arizona anymore. They are going to get rid
of this filibuster as fast as they get to control
of that Senate. It will be in a blink of
an eye, just like Harry Reid did it on judicial nominations.

(50:45):
So I'm telling you that because we should really come
to terms with the fact that it's going to go away?
Do you want to go away on the Democrats watch?
Which would then create Puerto Rico as a state and
DC as a state and start packing a new Senate
with more people. Supreme Court YEP given term limits to
the Republican appointed that Supreme Court justice is adding more.

(51:06):
Do you want to be then? Or do you want
to be now? And I think you're just talking a
matter of when. Now the Democrats have so jumped the shark.
They've gone really so so far to the left. Getting
rid of the Filbuster is like a Tuesday for them.
Now they're gonna do it the second age. Can so
decide when you want to have it? Do we do
it now or I do it now? Absolutely as soon
as possible.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
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the time, almost every minute in this fast paced world

(51:49):
in which we live nowadays. And update on the box
serve in New York. Yes, who lost his hair after
a punch? I mean that must have been a whale
of a punch.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Well, that are a bad two pay and a hair
piece gone wrong. I saw this ladies and gentlemen in
person live. My son and I were there, and he
spotted at prasing where we're from, his hair and I said,
what do you mean, all of a sudden boop, I
saw that thing stand straight up. It was attached in
the back, but that was the only place he was
attached to. That thing went straight up in the air.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Yeah, well tonight, Yes, he said, he paid his hairstylist
seven hundred dollars for that thing.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Yeah, and and here's what's that man. Let me tell
you what he paid seven hundred dollars for to be
forever stigmatized, remembered for the worst of reasons. This man's
a professional boxer. He will only be remembered for that
hair piece standing straight up in the in the after
the fights were over and he was in the undercard,
and he wasn't one of the main event undercards. Everybody
wanted to ask the promoters, have you ever seen that before?

(52:49):
There wasn't us And we're talking people that have seen
a zillion they put on a zillion shows. They've been
No one has ever seen it. No one has ever
seen the hair leave the head stand straight up. And
it was the only exciting that was in a particularly
exciting fight. That was the exciting moment. The whole all
of Madison Square Garden went nuts.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
And then he ripped it off and through in the
crowd right and threw it in.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
The crowd and it's kind of gross, but people started
passing it around like it was a pet, and they
start giving it a chair if there was an empty seat,
they let us sit in there and watch the fights
for a while that they send it on its way.
It even made it made about five rows in front
of me. So anyway, it was the update and his head.
They don't know. They bleach you what they do to
attach it. But his the skull because you see him fighting,

(53:29):
it looks like a friar because it's off his head.
Now it's a completely different color than his hair and
his own hair. That's kind of the how they tried
to look like he does, and they tried to blend
it in work, but that looks and he's got one
color head to hear and different color on the top.
It was it was strange looking.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Well, we should talk about the Emmy or the Grammys
last night. Yes, let's Did you watch any of it?

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Not? Not one bit. In fact, someone kept texting me
about certain wears and I didn't even know the Grammys
were going on. I'm like, why do they care about these?
Like this person won? Why would they even mention it
because there's a Grammy's going on.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Yeah, it was filled last night, as expected, with political
jabs at ice. You know, there were some who were
wearing these little buttons that said ice out. Bill Maher
made a great analysis of this on a show over
the weekend, talking about who cares.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
That's right, it's performative and they're not.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
We don't care.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
They're such hypocrits. They don't live lives that reflect anything
that they're saying. That they're virtue signaling about their lives
do not match what they're saying.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Well, Billie Eilish, who at some point right got a
lot of attention because she said, we're all living on
stolen land, yes, and we should have open borders, yes,
And she won to f ice.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Yeah. You know when you say that this is you're
not illegal when you're living on stolen land, what does
that say about the property that you own. She apparently
owns a fourteen million dollar state or home. Is that
stolen and if it is, do you give it back?
I don't think my home is stolen. I think I paid.
I think we paid, leave us legal tender for what

(55:08):
it is we purchase. I think that our real estate
is valid. I think the titles are you are enforceable.
But if you think it is all stolen, then give
it back. If you really think it's stolen, then you
should give it back. And I don't see any of
these people making that move. And in fact, these land
acknowledgments that they do at universities and stuff. This is
like saying I want to acknowledge that I have stolen

(55:31):
your car and I like to drive it around. It
is a good car and it used to be yours,
but that was fine, but let's move on. Yah. Yeah,
that would be just rude to just rub it in
that you took their car, you like their car, you're
still driving their car, or you don't have any intention
of giving the car back, but you just wanted to
let them know that I know I stole it from you.
You just need to know this used to be yours,

(55:52):
it's now mine, and I quite like it. That just
sounds rude. It sounds like you're rubbing it in.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Why do the are these grammy actors whatever musicians do
they really believe we care a twit about what they say?

Speaker 2 (56:08):
I think they do. I think they're given a false
sense of self. Yes, I do think they have a
false sense of self because they're they're if they're critically acclaimed,
if they're if they do get attention because they've been
in movies, or they're good artists and they're good singers,
you know musicians, they get a lot of attention, and
they they they they think that that means that their
opinions not not what they do to amuse us and

(56:28):
entertain us, but their opinions matter, and they don't. They
are modern day court chesters. They are, they exist, and
they get they get well compensated for amusing us.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Entertaining, entertaining, and they have talent. Give them credit. You've
got talent. Okay, just display your talent. That's it, that's
all we want to I saw this, uh, this list
of some of the presenters and performers on there last night.
Gloria Estevan, wearing her little eyes outpined. You know how
much he's worth? Five hundred million dollars? Yeah, Bieber one

(56:58):
hundred million dollars. They went on this list. Bieber, by
the way, performed last night is underwear. That must have
been great to see. I mean, you know, yeah, maybe
they should go back. Now. Remember Ricky Dervais, Yes, okay,
he was at the Golden Globes. This is six years
ago now, back in twenty twenty. This is the advice
he gave to the celebs.

Speaker 8 (57:17):
If you do in an award tonight, don't use it
as a platform to make a political speech. Right, you're
in no position to lecture the public about anything.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
You know nothing about the real world.

Speaker 8 (57:28):
Most of you spent less time in school than Greta Thumberg.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
So you know nothing about the real world.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
And you know, you know who would know that? The
most people in Hollywood? Yes, because that is a hedonistic,
maybe even demonic place where that where the behavior of
these people, you it does not match the virtue signaling
they're doing to the public. It is they're just bad
people in certain circumstances or certain people are and it's normal.
They normalize it. They normalize it there, and then they

(57:58):
have these You remember when they made that movie North Korea,
like Kidnapping the North Korean President was a comedy and
Sony was putting the movie out. I think Seth Rogan
was in that movie. I don't know, but anyway, North
Korea didn't like it, so they went and hacked Sony's
executives emails and they found and they put them out there,
and it's been well hidden and buried since, you know,
the search engine optimization has buried it. But all these emails,

(58:20):
they were bigoted, they were racist, they were homophobic, they
were every single ribbon these these hypocrites have ever worn.
Their private emails were worse than things that we've ever
normal people have ever thought, let alone ever expressed. And
they were the worst of the worst with their ribbons
and awards shows saying the opposite and and you know,
they interview that's the name of the interview. But anyway,

(58:44):
North Korea, they had the last lap. I don't think
they'll ever be a movie about North Korea done in
satire again after what they did to Sony and their
executives for doing well.

Speaker 6 (58:53):
Well.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Think all these people, Grego were on that stage last
night or in attendance there. You've been around people who
were famous. Yes, they have handlers, they have security, they
have publicists. They don't do a thing. No, I'm surprised
the handlers don't brush their.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Teeth for them.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
They might, and they may, they may. So when when
Ricky Gervai says, you have no idea what the real
world is like, they don't because they are so protected
and so sheltered, and they You're right, Greg, they have
such a self importance of themselves that they think if
they say we hate Donald Trump, everyone will agree.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
With them, you know. And there was a weird thing
going on last night that real quickly that So Nicki Minaj,
she is a female hip hop artist and she has
she has had some issues that Donald Trump has actually
worked on with her, and she has become a supporter
of Donald Trump and she hasn't been embarrassed. Well, she's
taken a lot of criticism, and she feels very ostracized
by a lot of these people because she supports Donald Trump.

(59:51):
So she didn't go to the Grammys because of what
they're how she's been treated. But she was putting out
x posts last night about these people, and she was
kind of, you know, sharing the dirty laundry about how
some of these people that are acting saying certain things,
how they behave in private, and so she was putting
that out there, and it's interesting. So once I guess
you've been part of that that industr, you know, that

(01:00:13):
entertainment industry. You see the things you can unsee, and
there's some people that are that have in the past
and are right now maybe sharing a little update and
I think it yeah, and I think it goes And
you look at those Epstein things that came out, those
emails that came out over the weekend, which are too gross.
This is a family show. You can't even talk about it.
It's so abhorrent. But there's a common thread there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Yeah, yeah, all right, We've got a lot more to
get to. As the Monday edition of The Rod and
Gray Show rolls along on Talk Radio one oh five nine.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Kaynas I was in New York City. It was twelve
degrees okay, and they have high humidity. I don't know
if you don't know if folks, how many if you
have been in New York and with high humidity twelve
degrees that's below freezing. My face hurt. It just hurt
in that in that element. Yeah, but yeah, I'm not.
I mean we got back. The weather felt so warm.

(01:01:04):
I felt like as anyway, I wanted to say that
I got distracted because I love Groundhog's Day, Punks Toney film.

Speaker 6 (01:01:13):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
You remember the.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Movie I saw once, never understood it. It's above my head.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Really, Yeah, I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
The idea other than he keeps on having groundog Day.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Yeah, he has to break the cycles so you can
get out of that same day. He's reliving that day
over and over again. But yeah, why why did we
play kid rock? Because we want to acknowledge and celebrate
as our bumper music. Those American artists are going to
be doing the All American halftime show. The p U
s A is sponsoring it during the halftime show in
case you don't want to be indoctrinated or lectured to

(01:01:48):
by the what we're set, what's being said, is the
halftime show with Bunny what's his name.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Bad Bunny, Bad Bunny. Yeah, and Green Day is the
pregame show.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
And they just I mean, it just sounds like they
and they don't they. Jay Z thinks you got a
lot of social issues they want to foist on football
fans on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
On Super Bowl Sunday, you were mentioning you were in
New York over the weekend seeing a fight at an
interesting time. Yes, I did something I've never done before.
I have two of my grandchildren are involved in robotics,
and I went to a robotics competition.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
I would think you'd have to be at least in
high school, or you'd have to be no college ic.
Robotics seems complicated.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
This is elementary schools, all right, And apparently what they
do is they give every school a kit to build
a robot, and they can build it however they want,
but basically they're all the same. And the competition is
they have to with the robot remote controlled, pick up
something and set it on top. They stack little pieces

(01:02:45):
like a puzzle or something, and they get more points
to do that they cannot and they have to remotely
control them. And it was fascinating, and I told they
were one of these kids, you're going to rule the
world something.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Yeah, I think there's an upside. And the whole robotics thing,
I think I'd never that. So how do you practice that?
How do your grand children get ready to compete in?

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Have you seen kids play video games?

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
All right, I say they know how to do this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Well, finally we're talking about some brainiac kids. That's good.
I was worried they were all dombin out on us.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
All right, our number three, right, and Gregg, come in
your way, our next guest, Greg, I want to bring
this up. So the uh, the head of CNN, the
CNN chief guy over news right, the Gable Channel, decided
to hold a kind of a town hall meeting with
his with members of CNN okay in the newsroom on Friday,

(01:03:38):
and wanted to say questions. You know what happened? What
who the target was? Now you know why he was
the target? First of all, they can't stand that he
takes a very controversial or a conservative stand on many
of the issues, right, But they didn't like the fact
that he used the term illegal aliens.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Yeah, they say official company ball.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
The official CNN guidebook says you call them undocumented, not illegal, right,
But the the official the federal government defines him as
illegal aliens. So he's just doing how the federal government
defines them. Now my question to you, Okay, Now, my
question to you is, Greg, you know who Jessica Tarlov is, right, Yes,

(01:04:22):
the whack liberal on the five five. Do you ever
hear anybody on in Fox and that whole line of
complain that Jessica Tarlov is on that show? Nobody?

Speaker 6 (01:04:34):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
So I'm trying to figure out if the guy at
CNN is an editor or a babysitter, because apparently they
need babysity because Scott Jennings rattles them so much.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Well they have, they don't. They don't want diversity of thought.
They want uniformity, conformity. They don't want to hear anything
that's different than their worldview. And even they're so called
Republicans have always been the sellouts that just agree with
them and just rip on Republican and that's their favorite
kind of Republican. But diversity of thought, I'm not kidding it.
That's where I don't like this. It's post sides. I'm

(01:05:07):
telling you that Republicans will have the debate. They will.
They like the challenge of competing ideas. The Democrats they
don't have really much of a base to stand on,
so they just get angry and they want nothing they want.
They don't want to hear a word that's different than
what they think because they don't know how to respond
to it. They don't know how to react when when

(01:05:29):
Scott Jennings makes a point, because they've lived this life
where everyone's just echoed back with everything they've ever said.
When he speaks, and he speaks informatively, they don't have
anywhere to go. So what do they do. They run
to the boss and say he's a problem because he
doesn't think like us. Well that was kind of the
point for CNN, But you know, I don't know how

(01:05:49):
the man does it. The only thing I ever watched
in CNN is one on the show Yes that's it,
him and Harry Enton when he's got I mean, that
guy can be a riot. But I'll never watch I'll
never watch network to see any of that. I'll just
wait for the the clips run on X.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
I think I bet Greg there's more of an audience
for clips from CNN of Scott Jennings going after the
nut jobs on that show, than there are people just
watching CNN.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Yes, I would bet you, I would bet that. All right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Speaking of immigration, a lot of new information has come
out with estimates about you know, what's going on in
this country. Census Bureau looking at things, and what we
have found out is there has been a huge decline
in illegal immigration. Will joining us on our Newsmaker line
right now is Steve Camarada, director of research at the
Center for Immigration Studies. Steve, always great to have you

(01:06:41):
back on the show. Let's talk about this survey. What
does if there is a decline in illegal immigration, what
does this mean for the United States?

Speaker 6 (01:06:49):
All right, So we have estimates from each month and
they show a big fall off at least to the
middle of last year in the number of immigrants in
the United States, over two million decline and it looks
like about one point six million of that is illegal immigrants.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
So the fargn.

Speaker 6 (01:07:05):
Born population gosh, hasn't declined in the United States for
many decades. It had been going up, up, up, and
by the beginning of last year it had hit a
new record of over fifty three million. It's never been
there before, almost sixteen percent of the population, again a
new record. It had blown past the record that we're
set between say eighteen ninety and nineteen ten, both numerically

(01:07:29):
of course, because the US population is so much bigger now,
but also even as a percentage of the population. We
are in uncharted territory. But now in just the last year,
something fundamentally changed. Then that's something is Donald Trump. And
it seems that many fewer people are coming illegally and
perhaps legally, and a lot more folks have left.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
So you're saying, is that policy matters? That policy had
an absolute massive impact on the census bureaus. We're seeing
that decline happening for the first time. So are some
of these things. I mean, there's been a lot of
money committed for border security, the wall itself, technology around it,
the agents. Is there enough infrastructure following the law, not

(01:08:14):
having to make new laws that President Trump is putting
in place in this second term to carry us with
that trajectory where you're not going to see it just
keep going up and up and up. That we'll see
it go down or maybe level, but it won't be
what it used to be. Do you see it that way,
or do you think the next time we get a
new president that's a Democrat, we're going to just reverse
those trends very quickly.

Speaker 6 (01:08:34):
Unfortunately, as you put it, at the beginning, policy matters.
So it's likely, first of all, when the Democrats take
control that they'll have policies designed both to be re
to be permissive at the border, so we'll see more
people come. I think they'll try to avoid a kind
of spectacle of mass migration there. They'll fly a lot
of people in and then grant them parole or some

(01:08:57):
other kind of temporary status, even though you know they'd
be illegal immigrants. But this is the way of saying, look,
we'll let you apply for asylum and will fly you in.
And then some of the people, some large fraction of
the people the administration is moving or deporting, if you
like that term, though some large fraction of them come
back as well. That's likely the outcome of a democraticutry,

(01:09:19):
though they will be more sensitive this time to the
specter of the border, so I think that that will
probably not happen.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
Steve, what about I think the term is called natural increase.
People in this country having babies are what are the
numbers showing there, Steve so but I'm sure.

Speaker 6 (01:09:36):
Your listeners know the fertility rate, the fraction of people
have children every year, the overall lifetime expected fertility, or
what we call often the fertility well total fertility rate.
You need each woman in a society or each couple,
depending on how you look at, to have two point
one children on average to maintain the population. And really

(01:09:58):
in the last fifteen years we've been below that, We've
joined all the other advanced industrial countries to have very
relatively low fertility. At one point six one point seven
children per women are atilly still higher than most every
country in Europe, but it's much lower than it used
to be in terms of what these newss of migration

(01:10:19):
and population growth show. It is the case that about
I think it's five hundred and eighteen thousand is the
it's called natural increase. If you take deaths, they take
birth and some cracked deaths. If there were nobody coming,
nobody leaving, then the US population would grow by about
half a million or five hundred thousand a decade. But

(01:10:41):
it's not at all clear that that number is stable
and that it's likely to decline. It's possible young people
will change their mind. We have conflicting survey of data
on that, but in general we guess, if we've tried
to put our crystal use a crystal ball, that fertility
in the United States will be continue to decline and

(01:11:01):
it's very unlikely to go back up. Though what it
was it Yogi Bear said, it's tough to make predictions,
especially about the future, so you have to be careful.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
But be careful about that kind of say, Steve, if
we maintained or came close to that five hundred and
eighteen thousand number you just mentioned, is that enough? Is
that a healthy number for the US to continue in
the upward trajectory that it needs to.

Speaker 6 (01:11:25):
Well, this is a fascinating question. Is population growth good?
It's hard to actually find that population is good economically.
If you were to look at so many of the
best performers per capita growth, then you would see that
the countries that don't have a lot of population going
through even out the right decline, like a Japan they're
per capita GDP they were their capita gross domestic product

(01:11:48):
continues to grow, it doesn't fall, but you're one aggregate
that's just the overall size of the economy, not per capita,
not what each person produces, not per capita the income
what each person gets. But if you just wanted a
bigger aggregate economy, well then adding more people it's always
going to make your economy bigger, whether those people be

(01:12:08):
immigrants or through natural interest that is, native born births.
So does the US population need to grow to have
good economy. The evidence suggests no, it doesn't. The population
can actually fall and you could still have a good
economy because you can have less money you need to
invest in educating children and things like that. But at
some point, you know, if the population's falling the real

(01:12:32):
you know, you might worry that, you know, like just
very quickly. If the population falls, it's generally good for
looking high real estate for young people trying to buy
their first out or move out rent their first place,
but it's bad for existing homeowners existing landlords because they
can't charge as much. So that's an example of the

(01:12:53):
way immigration creates kind of winners and losers, or the
absence of immigration creates winners and losers. And that's probably
how you think about it. If you want higher home
ownership rate than probably falling population is good. If you
want higher equity in your house, then a growing population
if you see what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Yeah, see, let me ask you this, because you know,
nothing happens uniformly. So we're a state, You're Utah. We
have a high birth rate and we're seeing that go down.
We're about a generation and a half behind maybe national averages.
But you take a state like Wisconsin, and I think
they would tell you that they're an aging state. They're
not replacing, and so you're seeing people get older. Utah
is a younger state. We have an emerging workforce where

(01:13:31):
I think, and I'm not talking about the immigration side
of it, I'm talking about the natural replacement of children
per couple. I would argue that you have an advantage
if you have a young, emerging workforce to attract business
and economic development, Whereas if your population is aging, you
got more healthcare costs, you've got less productivity by age.
There's got to be an argument for the society growing

(01:13:53):
to some degree, don't you think?

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:13:56):
And I think, look, here's the thing. You would have
an impact on population aging, and you can define that
different base. But let's just say the share of the
population at sixteen to sixty four and if you have
a relatively higher fertility than that share, that working age share,
you've got a better you know, there's going to use

(01:14:16):
the word dependency ratio, but the point is you get
a better situation. That's certainly true. Now whether immigration is
a way of dealing with low fertilities different courts. Because
the immigrants arrive at all ages. They also don't have
large families anymore, and most importantly, they age over time.
So right now, like seventeen percent of the native born

(01:14:38):
population is sixty five and over. Do you know what
it is for immigrants sixteen percent? Why because all the
immigrants who came in the sixty, seventeen and eighties are
now owned and that's just the natural process. And they
didn't have that many kids either, so and their fertility
has fallen more in the last twenty years than even
the native born. So you're not going to fix it
with immigration. But if you could get Americans to have

(01:15:00):
more kid then yes, that has a kind of direct,
much larger impact on that ratio of worker to non workers.
And so Utah is a is in a better state,
But mainly that's because Ucotl is so Mormon, and traditionally
the Mormon Church has been, you know, very support of
a children if you if with and so, But that's

(01:15:22):
the cultural thing. And fact is Mormons are having a
lot fewer kids than they used to as well. It's
not clear that look Saudi Arabia one of the most
traditional Muslim countries in the world, their fertility has fallen
spectacularly as well. In other words, it's a universal trait
and advanced industrial societies have to figure out how to
deal it with it. Immigration can have a small positive effect, but.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Not much, it turns out, Steven, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
Steve Camarata. He is the director of research good guy,
had a chance to be. He's been on the show
several times. But I'm back in Washington several times at
the Fair conventions every year. He's with the Center for
Immigration Studies.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Yeah, and you know that's a that's a I I
will tell you that it is Utah for as long
as we can keep it. It is a superpower to
have a young, emerging workforce, to keep your economy strong
or in robust, and to have an aging state where
people are getting older in healthcare costs for a rising that's
a harder state to live in. With the economy. So
I think that's good for us, and but I'd like

(01:16:23):
to see that as natural, just like you know, having
babies and having big families. I think I think there's
gonna be a comeback on that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
All right, more coming up. It is the Rod and
Greg Show on Utah's Talk Radio one five nine.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Kay Annas, all right, fine, I hope it's nos Hoyla
are you happy?

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
Thank you? Okank you all right? Yeah, you're one of
these guys. If we're gonna draw, you're probably running your
sprinkler system. Twenty four to seven.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
No, I'm actually pretty good. Queen Bee is a she
has a green thumb like. She is good at that yard.
She and she doesn't overwater. She's actually she makes that
grass work to stay alive. She makes it. She only
gives it a little drink, you know, and then but
it does. It works. The roots really grow down. They
you know, you just don't you know, you certainly don't
water when it's hot outside. Well, no, you don't do
that anyway. See, my wife's a farmer's daughter. Yes, she

(01:17:08):
knows the value of water. She said, soak that sucker. Now. Yeah,
so we we've been told that she she has. She
subscribes to it. It's it's you don't do it so
much because the roots will go deeper and try to
get really yeah, they'll d How often does she water?
She got a plan, you know she does. I don't
know what it is. I don't pay attention, but she does.

(01:17:28):
She but she I guarante I know that we don't
water as much as other than our grass days pretty green.
We have a couple of airs with the sun our
backyard for some reasons, like a I don't know, solar
farm or something. It's like just it just draws heat
like you can't believe. But outside of that front yard
looks great. Yeah, it's those backyard. But just we got
some spots.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
But I think you don't. My son and his next
door neighbor the south in Syracuse put down turf.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
I want I want to do that. I want to
do that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Put down turf looks weird. Yeah, well, the winter right
now it's as green as could be.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
That's nice. You can chip off that. You can actually
use it as a chipping green. I like that. It'd
be great.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
It's turf.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
I didn't you know, I didn't even mention that. Lee
Brice was our bumper music just now, Well did I mention?

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
Well, maybe not. I never listened to it.

Speaker 6 (01:18:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
The reason, folks, and we're doing this today because we're
just so appreciative that Turning Point USA is going to
have a all American halftime show that is going to
star musical talents, a great and fine American music artist
like Kid Rock, Brandley Gilbert. And the last bumper music
we played was from Lee Brice. So uh, we have

(01:18:37):
by the way, Oh, go to Rod and Greg show
on vote on our account and vote by the way
at Citizen Hughes. I want some likes because you know,
I used I was getting up there and I don't
know what I did. I got some. I dropped off
after the first of the year. I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
But they tried to like you and realize.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Yeah, you know that could be the case. But but yeah,
and I you know, sometimes I go rogue. I have
my own opinions that I don't share what you do. Yes,
you do, you know I'm on there.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
That's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
But no that we have a poll, let's see what
comes of that. I want to see our listeners are
the smarting listening audience and all the way.

Speaker 6 (01:19:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
Yeah, A quick little story, this one out of Washington State.
I absolutely love this and I wish more parents would
do this. Greg. But the mother of a Washington State
middle school has gone viral for a video showing her
pulling her daughter from the school following in anti ice walkout.
She said, not my daughter.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Good Yeah, yeah, you know. I'm telling you if I was.
If I was, my mom is a single mom, and
so I I stressed her, but she wouldn't. I would
take every opportunity to walk out of school on every
every topic. It wouldn't matter what the topic was. I
would just run out. I wouldn't. It wouldn't be a
walk out. I would run out, And then my mother
would know exactly what I'm doing and she would not
have it. She'd say, Nah, this isn't You're not You're

(01:19:55):
not doing.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
This again again? Yeah, didn't you do it again?

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
No, I'm saying theoretically, if I tried to, if I
was a kid today, with all the nonsense going on,
I would take full advantage of all the nonsense. I
would take full advantage of it. And I'm and my
mom would figure me out pretty quick.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Well. While this, while this demonstration was going on at
this school. Yeah, this woman walked right through the kids
right into the office and said, are you authorizing this
or allowing this? Yeah? We are you know. They were flustered.
If that's the case, I want my daughter out of
this school right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Oh, she didn't take her out of the protests. She
took her out of the school. She took her out
of the school. School she would take and down in Texas,
who is that Governor Abbott? Down there once a full
investigation of every school in that state that authorite were
allowed to walk out against ice on freight? How about
these teachers unions during COVID that wouldn't go to wouldn't
would we refuse to go to work? Had all these
kids miss over a year of school? All their year

(01:20:46):
over year proficiency down the drain? These kids are all
behind because of them. And now you get this this
nonsense going on and all these unions they just want
these kids out on the street causing trouble, being part
of the chaos. They use these kids. I'm telling you
it's there's good teachers out there for sure. These unions.
I when I was a public servant, I represented kids,
parents and teachers. I didn't I was not a union rep.

(01:21:07):
I just was not. I never represented unions. I represented
teachers and constituents parents.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
Like the teachers were on strike so you could have
a day off.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
Now as a high school boy, I said, you hold
out as long as you can. This is I was
trying to get every day out of my summer vacation
and they didn't want to start school, and I didn't
want to start school. I thought they should hold out
to Yeah, they came to an agreement about two weeks in,
much to my discip So you're off for two weeks, yeah,
two weeks. No, but I wanted to go to Christmas.
I told them, don't don't cave go to Christmas. We

(01:21:37):
need to go. We be strong. They just they looked
at me and they you'd think they'd appreciate that more, Rod,
But they didn't. I think they were they would. I
felt they seemed to unappreciative of my support. I'd hang
my hand, my body out the on the picket line,
out of the car and go. You stay stay on
the line.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Sorry more coming up, final half the Rod and Greg
Show on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five Dying Knrs
starting next Monday. As a matter of fact, will present
a brand new program. I think you will enjoy it,
Ground Zero with Clyde Lewis. Clide has had some health
problems of late, been struggling and he's going to end
in syndication. Clyde spent a number of years here in

(01:22:20):
Salt Lake City Radio before he did Ground Zero. So
starting next Monday at ten o'clock, a brand new program
called Our American Stories. And this program is very similar
remember the old Paul Harvey and that's the rest of
the story. Yes, well, these are stories about Americans and
you know, from the founding fathers all the way up
to today and their success, their challenges. And it's a

(01:22:41):
new show called All Our American Stories and it will
air Monday through Friday from ten to eleven right here
on Talk Radio one oh five Don Canna. So it's
a little break from the talk programming that we do
each and every day with real stories, great narration done,
and we'll do that starting a week from tonight o'clock. Yeah,
it'll be something different to listen to. I think.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
So if any of you remember the movie rain Man,
Dustin Hoffman, Tom Cruise, you know definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Yeah, I remember one.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
So what's what's the name of the show that the
rain Man? No, the show that's ending right now, the
ground Lewis Brown zero, definitely ground zero, Definitely GROWNDS ten o'clock,
ten pm, ten pm, definitely definitely ground zero. That's me, Okay,
Like I don't like change. I just don't like it
when they just flip things around. But I guess he's well,
it's not like, yeah, so what are you gonna do?

(01:23:30):
But yeah, I hate that. I'm excited about the new show.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
You're already condemning to show that familiar.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
I like the familiar. I like it. I just hate
change like that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
See how I love change, not me. Change is good.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
If you've got something works, stick with it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Well, I would love to stick with it, but I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
Clyde Lewis let me down that show. And that's like
he plays that all night long.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
He does that, he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
That's coach to cod that's that's staying around. Then that's
going okay, okay, now one okay, are you better now?

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Yes, I thought it was the one that's all night long,
that one that's a that's a that's an interesting show, Yes,
very much so. And if that was going. I would
think that the aliens are taking them. No, no, okay,
because you know, you know, listen to shows sometimes, you know,
GE's some weird calls.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
So no, it's fine. Our American stories.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Okay, actually you feel American stories. Yes, the change isn't
as abrupt. I can handle this.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
They're good. Sorry, why do we made you happy?

Speaker 6 (01:24:28):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
Let's talk more immigration, shall we? More in the numbers
that came out showing that the immigration bubble, which has
been in this country for years has now burst. And
joining us on our newsmaker line to talk more about
that is Laura Rece. She is the director of Border
Security and Information at the Heritage Foundation. Laura, thanks for
joining us tonight. What does the immigration bubble bursting mean

(01:24:50):
for the US.

Speaker 9 (01:24:51):
Well, it's a combination of both securing the border in
the past year to stop much of the inflow, both
illegal but even some legal immigration, as well as increasing
deportations of those already in the interior. And so when

(01:25:13):
aliens abroad see that one, they can't sneak into the
border or across the border or be caught and released
into the US when they stop coming. And so it's
it's good to see finally after this meant these many decades,
But it does show that we have a lot of

(01:25:35):
work to do in terms of needed statutes to fix
both the illegal and the legal side of the immigration equation.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
You know, I've seen a lot of charts on different
topics and you'll see it, you know, going only one
direction up and then you'll see it come down. But
sometimes I can just be a blip. It could just
go down for a little bit and then go and
then just spike right back. Do you think this is
a sustainable trend? Do you think this kind of bursting
the bubble of net immigration increase. Do you think we're
going to see the trend we're in right now continue
to decline or where do you think it goes from here?

Speaker 9 (01:26:09):
Well, this trend needs to continue beyond just one year,
that's for sure. I mean, we've been giving one million,
over one million Green cards, for example, every single year,
and that's just you know, one subcategory of legal immigration.
We also have terrible fraud and abuse of all sorts

(01:26:31):
of immigration benefit programs, and so we need to get
a handle on those, kind of get them back into
their box of original intent what they were created for,
and as well as prevent illegal immigration from coming here.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
Lord, the people who've wanted to come to the United
States and see it as Greg and I do, as
the greatest country on earth, are they a little more
reluctant now than they were maybe a year or two
or three years ago. What has changed?

Speaker 9 (01:27:04):
Well, if they want to come lawfully, they should be
encouraged to do so.

Speaker 6 (01:27:09):
Now.

Speaker 9 (01:27:09):
We do have a number of travel restrictions right now
from certain countries because they're either they don't cooperate with
US about terrorism information or international travel information, or lossness
still on passports, et cetera, and or if they have
a bad record of having their nationals overstay their visa

(01:27:32):
terms here. Those country have some limited restrictions. But barring
those restrictions, people should feel comfortable coming here lawfully. And
that's what we want to encourage, is that they do
so lawfully instead of unlawfully.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
You know, one of the interesting discussions amongst our listeners
when we get on this topic. Many listeners and I
actually subscribe to this. Those that have respected our laws
and are committed to immigration process that's legal, lawful, go
through the naturalization ceremonies, civics, test all involved. It's A.
It's a it's a hard journey, it's an incredible journey,
it's inspiring. I've I've attended those. But some remark that

(01:28:12):
it is overly burdensome and that that there can be
the perverse incentive to cross the illegally if the bar
to enter the United States illegally is too high. Do
you have any thoughts on that in terms of how
does that process work where it doesn't create an incentive
to come across illegally because it seems too hard, or
or what what does that that process look like to you?

(01:28:33):
And should it be an easier process to obey the law?

Speaker 9 (01:28:39):
Immigration law is confusing, slow, frustrating, and extensive.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
Okay, you must be a listener. Okay, Okay, we're we've
heard this, you're that's what we hear.

Speaker 9 (01:28:51):
Yeah, I am ready to take the entire Immigration Nationality
Act throat out the window and start over with something
that is much simpler, much less expensive. And if you're eligible,
you get the benefit quickly, and if you're ineligible, you're
denied and you leave quickly. But unfortunately it is convoluted.

(01:29:15):
Every rule has five exceptions. It just creates busy work
for immigration attorneys. They're the only ones that benefit from it.
And so what that results in is we have eleven
million immigration benefit applications pending DHS's US Citizenship and Immigration Services.

(01:29:36):
Now that includes the sylum applications, green cards, work authorization documents,
but there's fraud in there, and so unfortunately, those who
play by the rule are swimming in this mask of
millions of applications with people who came here illegally or

(01:29:57):
filed fraudul and the sylum applications to stay here longer,
and so legitimate applicants suffer from illegal and traudulent behavior.
Now that eleven million backlog is in addition to another
three million, three point four million cases that are pending
at DOJ's immigration court system. So that goes to show

(01:30:21):
why it is flow, frustrating and expensive.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
We're talking about a trend and it's only one year,
so I don't even know if you can call it
a trend. But let's say this continues for several years
down the road. Laura, what does that mean for the United.

Speaker 9 (01:30:36):
States, Well, it means we're regaining our sovereignty and we're
regaining the rule of law. We're regaining the ability to
decide as a country who comes here and why and
for how long, and our ability to enforce our laws.
We've been living in a system, particularly under the Biden years,

(01:30:57):
where everyone else decided, have decided from all over the world,
they decided that they get to come and to stay
totally just respecting our laws. And that's not how an
immigration system is supposed to work. And for most countries
that isn't that what works. If you tried entering illegally
or overstaying a visa, you get kicked out, and rightly so.

(01:31:19):
And any one of us going to other countries would
understand that. But for some reason, we as Americans can't
do the same. It just doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
Yeah, nothing makes any sense, Laura about immigration anymore. Laura,
thank you for joining us. Laura Reeves from the HERODD Foundation.
Talking about immigration in this country today the number one
issue I think of the country today along with the economy, and.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
It's the strongest issue for Republicans. I wish Congress would
would be able to do. Actually, I take that back.
We just announced it on the show that they're going
to put the Save Act.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
Well, it sounds like John Thune's working on something I'm
not sure what he's doing to require.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
Fifty one votes, which I will tell you what that
is is so so appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
There will be an immediate court challenge to this.

Speaker 6 (01:32:03):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
The Democrats, yes, do it, you know, but they you
know they if they how many votes would they lose?

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
They don't want to. If you are that he would,
He's going to go for it, but he thinks he
could stall out to the government shutdown over that issue
because if they don't want to go on the record
on that vote.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
No, they do not like Lee. It's been working hard
on this one and he's got I think they're now
forty eight Republican senders who are behind this effort.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
So we need more than forty Yeah, we need more.
Is that co sponsors or I think't co sponsor? That's
even that's awesome because now you just need three people
that weren't co sponsors to vote, and you're you're cooking
with at that point.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
And I'm not sure. I know. We sent out a
letter to his office seeing if he's available tomorrow. I
hope he is because I'd love to ask him about this.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
Yes, and you know, he comes on the show every week.
He can't go Hollywood on us just because he's you know,
passing Save Acts and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
Remember once he doing doing good laws?

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
Is that we'll dancer? Who brun you? That's that's us?

Speaker 1 (01:32:58):
Are you saying he wouldn't be elected if it was
for us?

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
For our listeners? Our listeners are before we started.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
No, I don't know that, but I'm telling you our
listeners are his base. Not only his base, they fuel
his lecture. Remember McMuffin, All the liberals thought Romney's and everybody, Well,
he disappeared, just like he did after the presidential campaign sixteen.
He goes nowhere, he's like, I think he's a c
I a guy, but he just comes out and the
and the establishment wants him to prop up a candidate

(01:33:26):
and he becomes the guy. Then he disappears like he
did in sixteen. Then they wanted to run against uh,
against Mike Lee, and Mike Lee thumped him. But no,
but you know why, don't want you know why Michaeley
thumped him because of our listening. Because Romney and all
these other donor class people they wanted, they wanted McMuffin. Yeah, so, yeah,
he was a colleague of his two and he wouldn't

(01:33:47):
support his own Republican colleague for his election. That's how
bad that is.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
All right, more coming up final segment of the Rod
and Greg Show right here on Utah's Talk Radio one
O five nine k n RS.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
The super Bowl the Sunday and we thought, in honor
of these fine American artists, we would play their music,
the bumper.

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
Music, Lee Brice, others as well, Brandley, Gilbert Brandley, Gilbert,
Terry Shilling, Terry Shelling.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
No, that was the mayor Ofview Terry Shilling. He's not
he's not a country music he's not an American artist.
I've got yeah, but it'll be good. I'm glad there's
an alternative. There's some alternative programming, and I think our again,
our audience is probably pretty appreciative of that too.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
I hope. So you and I both grew up back
in the northeastern part of the country. Yes, you and
Pittsburgh being upstate New York, right, would you consider that
region to be a friendly region?

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
Yes, I would really Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh's are friendly. Well, I
take that they could be sarcastic, they can be kind
of they can be sarcastic and they don't suffer fools lightly.
But they're But but I think people that visit Pittsburgh
would remark that the people of Pittsburgh are are nice. Yeah,
they're not like Wisconsin nice or Utah nice. They're a
different kind of nice.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
They're all different. They're welcome, settle nice.

Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
They're welcoming. Like you know, if you're in, you like them,
don't like you.

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
Now, report out says that the Northeast has been branded
America's least friendly region.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
Well, I I can that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
Would you agree?

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
Well I could because I would tell you that mockery
and teasing is my family's love language. Yeah, Okay, we mock,
we tease, We give each other a very hard time.
And I think a lot of families that would be
shock here, that would seem would be shocking. Yeah, but
that's how That's how I mean we if we weren't
mocking or teasing each other, that means that we don't

(01:35:33):
like them and we're just ignoring them. I mean, it's
it's our love language is to mock and tease.

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
And you know, Well, according to this new report, Salt
Lake City was crowned as the most neighborly city. Yes,
residents who don't just wave hello, they roll up their
sleeves and help.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
And the bolster didn't know that's a calling. They read
the assignment.

Speaker 1 (01:35:56):
This is my favorite story. And this happens every year
if it gets really cold in Florida. Yes, the way
it has been over the last several days. Are you
aware of this story? No, iguanas die, No, they really,
They freak and they fall out of trees.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
Oh no, that's kind of sad. No, why are you laughing?
You are callous.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
There are pictures in here.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
People have pet iguanas.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
There are pictures and they're they're like this one law
has these iguanas all over the place and this woman's
help picking up dead ones.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
And you think that's that's mean.

Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
Come on, those poor iguanas they going to freeze to death.
It warm, warm blooded. Why do they freeze?

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
It's the circle of life.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
Oh, it's easy for you to say, you're not circle.

Speaker 1 (01:36:45):
That's what goes on. They freeze in frigid temperatures and
they're in the trees. They just die and fall out.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
That's so sad. You like iguanas well, I don't like them.
Falling out of trees dead. I just think it's a
bit morbid. It's the circle of life, baby, jeez, grow
up and deal with it. A poor iguanas, Yeah yeah,
we'll share that story. Why are you gonna be This
isn't the macaque.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
I don't need to head up, shoulders back. My God,
blast you and your family. We're back tomorrow at four

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