The Rod and Greg Show: Latest Job Reports; Conservatives Should Support SAVE Act; Judicial Warrants would Halt ICE

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They're calling her the Blonde Bomber. Now, we have not
been big supporters of Pambody because you know we haven't. Actually, yeah,
it kind of been disappointed. She's been kind of slow
on some things. Let me tell you what the Democrats
tried to get her today on the Epstein File. I'll
tell you why. I'm so. I'm done with the Epstein
File story. I'm done with it.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
I was until I read. I think it's way more worse.
It's worse than anything I ever thought i'd read in
terms of how evil it is and how many people
it touches. It's I'm actually glad it came out because
I think it shows us an underworld that we might
not have understood was so big. But I think, like anything,
you know, you got to move on at some point.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Sooner or later. I mean, how long has this thing
been dragging on forever?

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I think I think the same length as the Guthrie story.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Just kidding the Guthrie stories. I mean, you wouldn't want
to be a door dash driver in Tucson, Arizona right now,
because you could be a suspect. We shouldn't laugh about this,
But that poor guy who they would they caught last
night in the media going crazy last night. They've got
a person of interest. They're questioning him now. Turns out
he was a door dash driver and he was in
the neighborhood. Poor guy, jeezh. But they've got to check

(01:12):
every lead, don't they. So it's so good to be
with you on this Wednesday Afternoon wing Man Wednesday and
Man do we have a lot to talk about. A
job's re born out today, surprising so many people, a
very strong stuff. Twenty six. We'll talk about that. Mike
Lee doing everything he can to get the Save Act
passed in the House. In the Senate, it's running into

(01:34):
some snags. We'll talk about that. Matter of fact, we
hope to have the Cender on tomorrow talking about that
as well. We'll talk about judicial warrants, how they would
hurt ICE. There's an effort on the part of the
Democrats to make members of ICE, investigators agents get judicial
warrants to go into someone's home. That could really slow
down the process. And we had a great conversation and

(01:56):
we'll talk to him again coming up later on in
the show. Ian Howorth, who will tell us about the
Super Bowl and how the NFL sucked us all in.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, Well I maintain my position, but
I'm it'll be interesting to talk to you. Yeah, he's
from across the pond, but he's you know, he's he's
I think he's he wants to be. He's American now.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Been American eyed, Yep, he has. So we've got a
lot to get to today, and we invite you to
be with us throughout the afternoon as you work your
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talkback line by making sure you download the iHeartRadio app. Well,

(02:41):
someone has described it so far today Greg as total chaos.
Pam Bondy went for a hearing on the House and
apparently it went nuclear because all the Democrats wanted to do.
Greg was attacker and ask her about the Epstein files.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
You know, and I have to say that, you know,
if you had serious if you had a series latest
State to Branch and there was serious work going on
in these committees, I would tell you, having been a
member of a state legislative branch that the decorum or
lack of is unacceptable. On both sides of the aisle.
This is it's not acceptable. But this is so performative
you have to give as good as you're getting because
it's none of this is real or substantive. There's no

(03:18):
bill in front of them, there's nothing. This is just pageantry.
So you actually have to play the game that's in
front of you. And I think Pam Bondi played it
very well.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, she did well. Almost everyone. There were numerous exchanges
with the Democrats that turned into shouting matches, and we'll
play one of those here in a second. Here's Tum Jordan,
Ohio Congressman, trying to keep control of the committee, but
they got out of control real fast, kep On saying
point of order, Point of order. You know the rules
on all this stuff, and no one paid attention to

(03:47):
it at all, and it just turned into a big
shouting match today. And here she is going right at
them because they were ready to go after her.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
They don't share enough meetings to really get used to
acting the way they're supposed to with they if they
use I think they use Mason rules of order that
maybe they use Roberts rules, but either way, both of
them are structured specifically to keep mayhem from breaking out.
But they don't have real committee, so they don't they
try that. When they try to call for pornt of
order and gabble down someone, no one's listening because they

(04:15):
never go there for that reason. They never go for
the productive side of a committee. So it's just made
for TV drama.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Well, like you was like you were saying, it's all performative.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
It is.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
That's what it comes down to. They're just performing in
front of the cameras to raise some money for their campaigns.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, it's it's it's to have sound bites, it's to
have clicks, it's click bait. It's all that. But it's
it's what it isn't is a serious congressionally.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, well, I want to play this exchange between Pam
Bondi and Jerry Nadler. You know, the congressman from New
York who, by the way, fell asleep, took he took
a little nappy pool.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
He was.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
It was.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
It was a long mourning for him, long morning for Jerry.
He's leaving Congress, by the way, at the end of
this year, so we won't have to put up with
Jerry Nadler anymore. And it's a little sleepy episodes, But
listened to this exchange between Jerry Nadler and Pam Bondy
during that hearing this morning.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
First he brought up the President, saying, they indicted me twice.
They sure did. They tried to impeach him twice. And you,
mister Nadler, were one of the leads on the impeachment.
I was on the other side. I lived that with you.
During impeachment. You said the president conspired sought foreign interference
in the twenty sixteen election. Robert Muller found no evidence

(05:29):
none a foreign interference in twenty sixteen. Have you apologized
to President Trump? Have you apologized to President Trump? All
of you who participated in those impeachment hearings against Donald Trump,
you all should be apologizing. You sit here and you
attack the president, and I am not going to have it.
I'm not going to put up with it. You know

(05:50):
all they want to do. All the American people need
to know this. They are talking about Epstein today. This
has been around since the Obama astration. This administration released
over three million pages of documents over three million, and
Donald Trump signed that law to release all of those documents.

(06:14):
He is the most transparent president in the nation's history.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
You should have seen that. We can't show you the video,
of course because we're on the radio, but Jerry Nadler's
face when she was just ripping into it, he just
kind of sold down. He knew, he knew she was
spot on. She was spot on on this one.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
She is and it's important it's said. And I think
that these guys aren't used to there. I think this
administration and his cabinet, even when I'm disappointed, I think
that there's still so much better than people in these
positions and presidential administrations in the past of both parties.
I think that it is a really a deep group,
a talented group of cabinet members. And as Attorney general,

(06:56):
some things we would have liked faster something Some reveals
of the Epstein files seemed to be a miss. They
really weren't the reveal or the release that we were expecting.
But you can't you can't blame it for taking those
points today in that committee. And there's a lot more
than that. But she holds no prisoners.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Do you think they have any interest in these files whatsoever?
I mean, they had access to them during Obama's years,
during Biden's years. Do they have any interest other than
to try and nail Donald Trump?

Speaker 2 (07:26):
As they've been released now, and it is shocking some
of the things that you were reading and how many
people it touches. I think that they, the Democrats thought
he because of how many important people that those emails included,
that they could say anything they wanted about him, because
there were too many people that would be exposed if
all those emails were exposed. Well, he shocked the world

(07:48):
and released it. And now I don't think the Democrats
look as strong because he's there's there's even emails where
he told the chief of police of that jurisdiction tomorrowlago,
you got to go after this area. Is she's evil,
she's you know, his evil assistant. I mean, so it
doesn't it's not matching up as they had hoped. Things
they had accused him of aren't true. But there's a

(08:09):
there is a list along a dirty laundry list of
people that knew him that even after some of his troubles,
where he should have they would shouldn't have associated.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
With, you know, My question is, Greg and I am
dug into this story deep enough, but who is this guy?
How is he able to get to associate with all
these very powerful rich people? I mean, who is this guy?

Speaker 2 (08:30):
I think he I think he made a lot of money,
but he did it appealing to people's worst nature.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Good, big, Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
All right, We've got a lot to get to. Strong
economic report out today. We'll talk about that. Give you
all the numbers coming up on the Wingman Wednesday edition
of the Rod and Greg Show right here on Utah's
Talk Radio one oh five nine knrs. A lot of
people apparently have been working nine to five unexpectedly. The
jobs report today blew away expectations. Numbers very very strong.

(08:58):
Let's analyze them with they're good friend, Gary Geagey from
Gegee Capital Management, Gary, how are you? And welcome to
the show. What a good report.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Today, Gary, you know I'm good and thanks for having
me on. Guys, it really was a good report. So
I think that all jobs report should be looked at
through the lens of like what was expected and now
what's the Fed going to do? And so the expectation
for today was sixty five thousand jobs created turned out
to be one hundred and thirty thousand, So that's great

(09:27):
to start with, But if you dig into the weeds
a little bit, you're going to see that the areas
that grew were private education, healthcare that's about one hundred
and thirty seven thousand, professional and business services thirty four thousand.
Construction was up thirty three thousand, manufacturing grew five thousand.
Government declined forty two thousand. So I think last time

(09:49):
I was on talking about this, I said expect to
see further government losses as the months go on. It's
just part of the process because some of the people
had vacation time and they're not fully off the payroll
for a while, so that may continue. But the private
sector grew very nicely. In addition to that, the unemployment

(10:14):
rate take down from four point four which is low,
to a slightly lower four point three percent, and digging
a little bit deeper, you guys, Hourly earnings went up,
hours worked went up, which says that employers were not
only working their their employees longer, they were paying them
a little bit longer as well. So almost any way

(10:36):
that you want to take a look at this it
was a really really good report, and so you don't
want to make a trend out of one month, but
this is a good start to the year. So I
liked it a.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Lot, so Gary. One of the things that the White
House pushed out this morning with the positive economic news
that came out was that under President Trump, federal employment
and you just mentioned this, it's the client, but this
is the part that I think looks like a trend.
It's the lowest since nineteen sixty six as a portion
of total workforce. You know, if you're losing federal employees

(11:11):
or just actually I would argue making government more efficient.
But if you're seeing that kind of decline while you're
seeing jobs being created, it's almost a double effect. We're
not seeing because there's no there's no economy being created
by government when they have a job but other than
their salary, but the workforce and what they're creating by
way of the economy. Does that have a when you

(11:32):
see federal jobs shrinking at the same time you see
job private sector jobs growing, is that is that a
bigger boom to our economy than if government jobs weren't
shrinking and we were just seeing jobs generally growing.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Absolutely, Greg, And so the government's being right sized, as
I would like to say. So, I like the fact
that it's that it's shrinking. Should have been happening a
long time ago. But this is going to create more
jobs in the private sector, as it should. So I've
always been a big believer that you that you put
you know, your your faith in the in the in

(12:06):
the in the private sector. For close to forty years,
you guys, there's been a conventional wisdom as it relates
to the to economy that economists we're following what was
called demand side economics, which means that when they're stress
in the economy, the way that they thought that that
it should be solved was by government spending. I think

(12:27):
that's the wrong way to do it. I think Trump
is flipping this on his head and going back to
what we call supply side economics, and that is where
when you have stress in the economy, the way to
solve it is by lowering taxes and focusing on the
private sector. That's exactly what should be happening. And I
think that's that's where we're headed with this, And you're right, Greg,

(12:48):
more private sector growth is going to happen less government jobs,
and so that is that that that is a good thing.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
At the end of the day, Gary, what you were
saying there goes right along. I want to get your
reaction to this as well from the Treasury Secretary Scott Best,
and I saw him doing a couple of interviews on
this today and he says, what you need to realize
is that in twenty twenty five, the Trump administration was
laying the groundwork for what is happening now. What have
they done in the past year, Gary, That lays the

(13:18):
groundwork for what we're seeing now.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
Well, part of it is the great, big, beautiful bill
that they talk about a lot which hasn't really manifested
itself throughout the economy. So you're going to see, probably
in the next month or two, a lot of people
are getting a much larger tax refund than they have
in years past. That's going to increase consumer spending. And so,

(13:43):
as you guys know, consumer spending is a huge part
of our economy. If you have a healthy consumer, then
you have a healthy economy. So people have more dollars
in their pocket, they're more apt to spend some of it.
Some of them may go into savings or paid out debt,
but they will spend some of it that is good
for the economy, and that's part of what we're going
to see. But also all of the manufacturing that that's

(14:05):
being planned throughout the country, where manufacturing sites are being
created by a lot of companies that are are being
strong armed, my word, to create their manufacturing site in
the US as opposed to overseas. And that's going to
create jobs. That's going to create well paying jobs, and
so that's going to help the economy as well. So

(14:26):
a lot of the things that the Trump administration has
done I really like, and that's why I'm so bullish,
not on the economy, not just on the economy, but
on the market as well. I think this is going
to be a really, really good time.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
So you just read my mind. I actually wrote down
on shoring manufacturing. I had anticipated that's going to take
a couple of years. You got to build facilities or
you're going to have to do something by way of
infrastructure to onshore manufacturing that wasn't here that you're going
to have here and then hire the jobs. Do you
see a shorter runway for that? When do we When
do you think we'll see some of the announcements of

(14:58):
the on shoring of manufacturing the jo object are coming.
When do you think those jobs become real and not
just the preparation of and getting ready to do that.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Yeah. I'm really a big fan of Treasury Secretary Besst.
I listen to him every time that he talks. I
swear when I hear him. Sometimes he's eluding, doesn't say
it directly, but he's alluding to the fact that those
manufacturing sites could be coming online this year and that's
going to add to the strong economic environment. So he

(15:27):
hasn't said that directly, but I really feel like that's
what he's alluding to.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Wow, well, Gary, anything you saw on the report that
concerns you at all? I mean a lot of bright stuff.
Isn't there anything that you go boom?

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Nothing really bad? But other than the fact that, again,
one month does not trend create and so in January
there's generally some revisions, and so I would not be
surprised to see the next month revise these numbers downward
just because it was such a wrong report, and it

(16:02):
may be in line with the fact that there's some
seasonal play which comes in January, which is usually associated
with laying off part time people that were there for
the holidays, but a lot of the companies that normally
hired strong through the holidays did not. Therefore there was
not as much laying off. So you may see a
little bit of a revision next month.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
All right, Gary has always love your analysis. Thanks for
joining us. I know we'll be talking again. Thanks Gary,
you bet have a good day, guys. Thanks you Gary.
Giggy with Giggee Capitol Man. It's been talking about the
jobs report which was out today, Like I didn't realize this.
They were predicting greg a creation of sixty five thousand jobs.
It doubled that to one hundred and thirty thousand.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah, yes, and I'm telling you I think it was
one hundred and seventy thousand jobs. One hundred and seventy
thousand jobs created. But with the shrinking of the federal jobs,
I think that's where you hit the one hundred and
thirty five thousand number. But what I do I think
that that you're actually it propels us even more when
you're seeing the private sector jobs grow at the same
time seeing the government jobs strength. Those those jobs are

(17:03):
they don't if you go to Washington DC, and you
see all that Class A office, they're producing nothing. Yeah,
they are just really accessing the public treasury. There is
nothing being you have higher ed in that DC area,
But most of the people that work there are not
producing things. They are just looking at go looking for
the federal budget and looking to spend it. So you

(17:24):
like productivity more than you like what you see in
the swamp.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
That's true. All right, We've got a lot more to
get to here. On the Wingman Wednesday edition of the
Route and Greg Show and Talk Radio one O five
to nine KNRS, I tell you what. The Democrats are
doing everything they can greg to stop the Save Act.
This is a bill being pushed by U tossed under
Mike Lee, just requiring simple identification when you vote in
federal elections. I'm just looking at this tweet right now.

(17:48):
This is from Barack Obama this afternoon. Republicans are still
trying to pass the Save Act, a bill that would
make it harder to vote and disenfranchise millions of Americans.
It's such a that's from Barack Obama.

Speaker 6 (18:00):
Wrong.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
I mean, you can't you can't justify what he's saying.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
No, you can't. And then you have this comment. President
Trump interviewed the other night by from Larry Kudlow, and
he talked about one thing he wants to get done
is the Save Act.

Speaker 7 (18:10):
We want to get the Save America Act fast. Save
America is on voting. We want people to have voter ID,
we want people have proof of citizenship, and we want
to have no mail in ballots other than if you're
in the military, or you're sick, or you're away for
some reasonable but good excuse.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Cannet get done. You think before the midterm e.

Speaker 7 (18:31):
Palls it about ninety four percent, including Democrats are at
eighty seven percent, other than Democrat politicians because.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
They cheat well. Joining us on our Newsmaker line to
talk more about that, as Michael O'Neill, vice president of
legal affairs at the Landmark for Legal Foundation. Michael, how
are you and welcome to the rod In Greg Show.
Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Good to be with y'all. I'm doing well.

Speaker 8 (18:54):
Mike.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Let me ask you, why are the Democrats throwing everything
but the kitchen sink at this thing?

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Right?

Speaker 9 (19:00):
I gotta say it's because I think it's because they
like to have that advantage of mail ballots. We saw
what happened in twenty twenty, right with they took advantage
of the COVID emergency and we're able to implement widespread
mail ballots, and we saw all the improprieties that occurred
in twenty twenty. We see what happens when you have
a state like California or Oregon that implements widespread male voting,
removes all reasonable protections. It's not a coincidence that in

(19:23):
all those states Democrats have, you know, one party super
majority controls of those states. So it's long been a
characteristic of the less of the Democrat Party to remove
any and all reasonable protections to the point where they
actually really look like fools. I mean, President Trump said it,
But you have eighty four percent of the American people
believe that you should show on identification before you vote,
seventy one percent of Democrats, seventy four percent of African Americans.

(19:45):
For those of the leaders of the Democrat Party Chuck
Schumer is Jick Durbins, Obamas who say somehow that this
is jimcro two point zero seventy one percent of African
Americans believe you should show an identification for you vote.
So then that kind of nixes that argument. So I
think what really you have is you like the Democrats
to have they take advantage of the chaos when any
of these reasonable, reasonable common sense measures are implemented by

(20:07):
the states to or the federal government, hopefully in this case,
to secure the integrity of the electoral process.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
I think one of the reasons that polls so well
is because we use our ID so often. There's not
a whole lot about life you can do without having
to produce a state issued ID. And we can go
through this, but we all know what it is, and
then you look at other countries, you look around the world,
third world countries. I think that that people ought to
be able to show who they are if they're going
to exercise the right to vote. So I think that's
why it's intuitive. But let me ask you this question,

(20:34):
because we've had this come up on our program. I
thought the real ID Act required me at some point
when I renewed my driver's license, and this is now
I'm fifty out of fifty states to produce a passport
or a bar certificate. But a caller noted that the
temporary residents can get a real ID for a driver's license,

(20:56):
while they're here. So my question is what the Democrats
are saying is they're trying to say, well, half the
Americans don't have a passport and it's really hard to
get a birth certificate, so they're not going to be
able to vote. I've always maintained if you had a
leg a state issued ID, that would be akin to
having a passport or a birth certificate. What do you

(21:16):
say about that? How do we how do we manage
that real ID Act requirement and you know the State
Act requirements.

Speaker 9 (21:24):
Yeah, we'll have to well, I think, first of all,
what we're talking about registering to vote, So when you
register to vote, you're going to have to show proof
of identification.

Speaker 10 (21:31):
Now, the details will.

Speaker 9 (21:32):
Have to be worked out in the regulatory process about
whether people who are already on the voter roles, whether
we have to reregister to vote or not, Whether those
who are already registered who are eligible our grandfather did.
And for new registrates they have to establish they have
to show when they go through the registration process, they
have to produce some sort of proof of citizenship. So
that's that's a detail that's to be probably worked out

(21:52):
in the regulatory process. Right now, remember what we're talking
about here is to register to vote. So if I'm
just turned eighteen or I want to register to vote
a new state, I most likely will have to show
and if this legislation goes through again in federal elections,
I have to establish that I'm a citizen, whether that's
a birth certificate or a passport or some sort of
other way, some sort of other method to establish citizenship.

(22:12):
So again I don't know about the details of people
who have already been registered. I do think that there's
going to be that will probably be worked out in
the regulatory process. So I think that probably best answers
your question as of right now. So going forward, you'll
know that anybody who come who starts to register but
will have to throughout the process, during that process of
registration have to show their their proof of citizenship.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Mike, do you see anything in the Constitution that does
not go along with the Save Act? Is there something
in there that could be unconstitutional?

Speaker 9 (22:41):
I don't. I mean, I think obviously you're talking about
the clause, the time, place, and manner clause that best
states with the primary authority to regulate. Again, as I said,
the time, place, and manner. But if you continue on.
In that clause, it also calls out a specific role
for Congress there, and then Congress can pass regulations that
would particularly in the federal context, when we're talking about
voting for representatives and senators or electors to the presidency,

(23:04):
you're talking about Congress can pass laws.

Speaker 10 (23:06):
And supersede this.

Speaker 9 (23:08):
Now, there is some constitutional originalism that you can get
into it there. The Alexander Hamilton, one of the federalist papers,
actually specifically mentions this, and he says, to really guard
against the tyranny of any the genius and beauty of
our constitutional system, right, our separation of powers never vests
all the powers in any one body, whether it be
a federal branch legislative, judicial, or executive, or a state

(23:30):
versus local versus federal. The states aren't completely vested with
absolute authority. And Alexander Hamilton himself cautioned that said, look,
the reason why we're giving we're ensuring that Congress has
a role here to play, is to ensure that there's
no tiranny of the states. And you see this playing
out in our country right now. You see California essentially
has disenfranchised large percentage of their people. If you're a
Republican in California, from a state wide perspective, you really

(23:53):
don't stand a chance. And I will submit to you
that at least thirty to forty percent of Californians are
probably ready to say like California, gentlemen, And so those
people don't really have a voice because it's a super
majority Democrats party and California has enacted, has put in
place all of these measures that remove any reasonable or
reasonable protection on the sanctity of the vote. Now again,

(24:14):
in these situations, and what we're talking about here is
we all know that there are non citizens on our
voter roles. We all know that there is widespread improprieties
when it comes to mail voting. We all know that
there is there that having that the overwhelming majority of
the American people believe you should show an identification when
you show up to vote. So these are all widely
popular things. So now it's time for Congress to step

(24:34):
in and take and take the reins here and that's
where we're talking about the Same of America Act.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
So real quick, Michael Senator Grassley, who's announced as the
forty ninth co signer of the bill, or one one
one away from Jade Vans, vice president, breaking a tie
to get this passed. How far away are we from
that one vote in ocean a puddle? How close I think?

Speaker 9 (24:57):
I think it's probably not not not far.

Speaker 11 (25:00):
I can't.

Speaker 9 (25:01):
I wish I could give you more specifics. No, I
don't think it's I think the Senate majority of Leader
Food is feeling some pressure here. Again, I go back
to the politics of this. You're talking about an overwhelming
majority of people support this. There's now lots of people
are talking about it. It's gaining support, even folks like
grass Ley or Vice President of Pence, I mean former
Vice president of pens who a week ago had had
a tweet on x which spread this editorial I wrote,

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saying that he was in favor of the states and
the federal government, not not trampling on the role of
the states, and not nationalized elections. He's walked that back.
So you're seeing definite momentum here for a Senate maneuver. Now,
the question here is whether the leadership specifically soon actually
makes the Democrats do a traditional filibuster here, because we
know we're not gonna have sixty votes for this, but
that doesn't prevent the Senate from making the opponents to

(25:46):
this legislation actually, Philipbuster, in the way we were taught
in elementary, junior, high and high school, actually make them
stand in the well of the Senate and in front
of the American people express their disapproval of this measure
that enjoys overwhelming support.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Would be interesting to see. Mike, great having you on
the show. Thanks for your analysis. Talk to you again.
Thank you my pleasure.

Speaker 9 (26:06):
Gentlemen, have a great day.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Thanks all right, michael'neil. He is legal affairs with the
Landmark Legal Foundation. More coming up on The Roden Gregg
Show that the Republican controlled House greg has voted to
pass the Save America Act, a sweeping election bill that
the President is pushing for Congress tact. We played a
SoundBite with the President his interview with Larry Cudloaw the
other day, saying this is one of the things that
he wants to get done. The vote was two eighteen

(26:29):
to two thirteen. One Republican voted against it, what one
Democrat voted for it. So some progress. Now it goes
to the Senate YEP.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
And as I said, I think they have forty nine
co sponsors. They get fifteen out. Majority leaders soon had
said when they were trying to get their spending bills passed,
that he would enact the filibusterer. You'd have to talk
the entire time. You can't just not the zombie filibuster,
as Center League calls it now. And so if he
does that, you'll just have to wait out these Democrats

(26:58):
to keep talking for a month or so and just
let them be them and outlast them.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Let them, let them try it. Yeah, yeah, I hope
this wouldn't have happened, but apparently it has now a
lot of Democrats support trans surgeries right, even though more
and more associations are stepping up saying it's wrong. Well,
the governor of Kentucky, Andy Basher, who has been mentioned
as a possible presidential candidate, was on the view the

(27:25):
other day, and guess what, he used scripture to defend it.
But we rarely talk about the why.

Speaker 12 (27:30):
People want to know what drives us, especially in a
world with social media where where everyone's looking for the
next authentic thing.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
For me, that's my faith.

Speaker 12 (27:39):
Most of the decisions I make are based on that
golden rule that says we love our neighbor as ourselves
and that parable the good Samaritan that says everyone is
our neighbor. And so when I've taken actions like vetoing
the nastiest piece of anti LGBTQ legislation that ever came
through my state, I described in those terms. I said,
my faith teaches me that all children are children of God,
and I didn't want people picking on those kids.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
So as I understand this using scripture, he's saying God
says it's okay to mutilate his children because he loves them.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, apparently I don't know. Don't go to his Sunday school.
I don't know what they're teaching there. That's I don't
I never caught that. You ever heard that one? Yeah,
that's that's a lesson.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
You know they're going to bring it up. But he says,
look at we all love children. God assens to love children.
So if a child wants to mutilate their body and
a boy becoming a girl or vice versa, we should
love them and let them do it. Yeah, they is
what I based my decision on.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
They've joy tried this at least of us, and this
is such a small number. Then it just kept growing.
And I always said from the beginning, Well, if it
was a million, would you then say no? If it
had to be more instead of less? And we knew
this was growing, We knew it was a social ill,
and it was just and it was, you know, impacting
more and more kids every day.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
So here we are hopefully starting to die down. We
can only help all right, second hour, they're rotting, Greg Show,
wing Man Wensday addition coming up, Stay with us. Big
celebration in Seattle today Seahawks won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Oh yeah, Now I thought it was another you know,
crazy day, crazy liberal day and Seattle.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Well it is kind of crazy because I had read
somewhere I can't remember where I saw this story that
the Seattle City school district was not allowing kids to
leave class to support and celebrate the Super Bowl victory,
but they did allow them to leave class to protest
against ice.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
I was just about to say, all the Seahawks have
to do is say their ice and they would have
been allowed to go.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
To that Super Bowl parade. Yeah, that's all a Super
Bowl ice parade. Yeah, Apparently the school district there decided
not to allow the kids out of school. That's one
story I had heard, Not sure if that's correct.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
You see how that works. Though we don't. We can't
control these kids. They're just going to get up and leave.
We can't do it. Hey, there's a Super Bowl part parade.
No you're not leaving. Amazing? How that? How that changes?
How that you know we we have no control? Well,
I look like I guess in Seattle they do have
control about what they.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Out for or not. Yeah. Yeah, And the new mayor there,
Katie Wilson, a communists. It's just such an upstanding I
wonder if she even knows what football.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Is, you know. I just we talked about this yesterday
about these people that leave these broken city states that
they that they vote in, the leaders that they vote in,
and then they come to our state or to Arizona
or somewhere else. There's got to be you. They should
have to stay there. There should be some level. If
you voted for a communist, you have to stay at that.
You have to be their ten years and live with them.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
I like the idea.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
I think they should have to live with the communists
they be. It should be a ten year commitment for both.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah. Yeah, and oh, by the way, if you're just
riding being home doing to hear us at the top
of the hour before we broke for news. The House
in an almost party line vote. One Republican went with
the Dems, one Dem went with the Republicans. The House
has now approved the Save Act, and it's going to
be interesting now, Greg to see what happens with John Thune,
who is a majority leader of the Senate. If he

(30:55):
can get this thing to the floor for a vote.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, well, he's the vote. He's the vote he gets
to decide. He gets to decide an actual verbal filibuster
where they get to talk forever, but which will take
some time. But at least you can get you can
outlast that. But with fifty votes, you can lose the
rest of those Republicans and then Jade Vans can come
and cast the deciding vote.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Well, Murkowski had said she's not in, of course, surprise,
surprise turtle but his name Mitch, oh, McConnell. He said
he's not in turtle face.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, Collins isn't in?

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, oh really three of them? Huh? I didn't. Fetterman
is in?

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Is he really?

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah? Fetterman said he supports his act.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Good for him. Yeah, I'm happy. I'm surprised. I'm actually surprised,
but good for him.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, yeah, I wanted to bring this up and get
your feelings about this, and I think we'll be talking
about this on the show tomorrow. The U there is
a Senator, Jim Banks, who's a Republican from Indiana, has
now launched a tip line. Interesting idea to protect Americans
from truckers who are illegal aliens, not authorry to drive
a truck, but do so anyways, even though they don't

(32:03):
even speak English. Now, the state of Florida, greg has
already passed legislation saying if you want a CDL license,
you have to pass an English proficiency test. As Governor
Desant has said, Yes, you got to know what a
stop sign means. You know all these highway signs, you
have to be able to read them to drive. Now,

(32:25):
I think there is an effort here in Utah to
do the exact same thing.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
I think you're right.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
I do.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
I don't know the bill, but I do think you're right.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
You know, and I've thought that this is another one
of the duh moments.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Well, it does two things. One immediately comes to mind safety.
I just think that that really really knowing what the
signs say, is going to have some impact on safety.
It has to. Here's the second issue though, it addresses
this long haul trucking profession or vocation happens to be
a magnet for illegal work.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yes, and it come that way.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yes. And so if you raise the bar a little
bit like English proficiency, this idea that people that are
undocumented here illegally just having all those jobs, keeping away
from other Americans that would have those jobs, I think
that has a chilling effect on that being a magnet
for illegal labor. If you have a higher, some higher
standards for that commercial driver's license.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Well, remember, and it was not long ago, Greg, that
the trucking industry was screaming to high heaven we need
more drivers. I mean they were offering lots of money,
I mean upwards of one hundred thousand dollars a year
with great benefits, signing bonuses. All of a sudden, you
don't hear that anymore. Is that because they're hiring illegals
to drive those trucks?

Speaker 2 (33:41):
I don't know, Yeah, you know, I don't. I only
hear the stories in the Macro. I couldn't tell you.
We have some very good trucking companies that are yeah,
because Utah is really situated. We've got I fifteen that
goes from Mexico all you know, through the United States,
through Canada into to Alaska. That's you know, three countries
that that freeway crosses. You've got I eighty across, seventy across. Uh,

(34:02):
so you Utah is kind of this crossroads of the West.
So there's a lot of good trucking companies as a
result of that. I don't know that they're hiring all illegals.
I don't know that, But what I would say is
when you see the national story, certainly the drivers coming
out of California and the way that Florida after some
horrific fatal accidents have reacted, there is there is substantial

(34:23):
problems in states where those commercial driver's licenses have been
given to illegal aliens who do not understand English, and
have there been accidents and there's been a lot of
so there's I think it's it's merited to to raise
that standard and have the federal government to it. There
are federal regulations for this, don't ask I mean, I
know Florida has done it, but it should be a
federal law. They're driving their interstate commerce yes, there should

(34:46):
be federal laws that up the up raise the bar
for a commercial driver and free market. If you were
used to paying not an nex to nothing because the
person that you hired and couldn't read a single street sign,
and you might have to pay more for someone that does,
then you pay them more.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Well, thank you too. This is such an important industry
to the US economy. If you're out on the road
right now, just look around you. How many trucktor trailers
do you see? Either behind you, beside you, in front
of you. You don't, I don't think Greg, we realize
sometimes the importance of trucking in this country. I mean,
take a long take a long drive one day, just
down I fifteen count the number of trucks you'll see. Now,

(35:23):
the question is don't you want those trucks to be
driven by a safe driver and a driver who can
read the highway signs?

Speaker 2 (35:30):
And so I'm actually I don't know if our callers
or our listeners are thinking about this, but I had
just on the way to the station today, I had
an eighteen roder that that crossed right over two lanes
and I was in the space he was crossing. I
had to I had to put my brakes on because
the was on and he was coming across. I wasn't
wanting to miss an exit, I guess, but was coming

(35:51):
across whether I was there or not, and so I
put my brakes on.

Speaker 7 (35:55):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
But for the most part, if I'm driving down to
say Saint George and it's I fifteen and it's and
it seemed there's some rules, you know, you pass, and
it used to be they kind of flash their lights
the lake still over. They still do, and so but
you're always trying to stay to that. You know, don't
sit in the fast lane the whole time. You try
to move over. And then anyway, I think that truck
drivers generally are safe, at least when I'm driving nine

(36:18):
fifteen on a far distance. But there are a lot
of trucks. But there are occasions where I am wondering,
how in the world you know, they think that the
king of the road, or are there in the fast
lane when they shouldn't be. Yeah, Or one's going thirty
five the other one's going forty and a sixty mile
an hour zone.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
I call that. I call that a Utah roadblock.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Hogging both lanes. You've got a hill and one's going
thirty five, the other guy's going forty. It's a sixty
five or seventy mile an hour road, and we're just
all slamming the brakes on while they just creep by
each other. It's like, are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Well, I've always been told treat truckers nicely and they'll
treat you nicely.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
I believe that.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
And if I'm behind a truck in another lane he
puts the signal on and he wants to come into
my lane, all slow down and let him do it. Yeah,
I've done that, and they will flash their lights kind
of a thank you yes. And so I've always thought,
but if we have whatever we need to do when
it comes to making sure those truckers know English, which

(37:11):
to me is a pretty simple request, then we need
to be able to do it.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
I agree. I agree. And I also think that looking ahead,
when you're driving and you know that there's a slow
moving truck that's ahead of you, you're going to need
to move over. You should be anticipating that, not right
when you get up against them, which some people do
and then they have to It makes for trouble. So
I think driving around trucks, I have found it to
be safe on the whole, but I've had some examples

(37:37):
where I've not felt that way.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
That way, yea, yeah, yeah, you know there's some there's
some road drivers out there. We want to see what
our listeners think about this tonight because yeah, and truckers,
because we have a lot of truckers who listen to
the show, sometimes passing.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Through this thing about them while while we're talking about this,
I'm being very careful with that. I'm mostly I have
good experiences because I know we have some loyal listeners
that that are on those road every single day.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
And I would like to see from those truckers or
if you have a truck in your family, if anyone
would be opposed to requiring that guys who get their
CDLs have to pass a basic English proficiency test.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, to me, it just makes our listeners. Then these
guys are canna say, yeah, I mean our listeners English,
they're gonna they got acetat test. I got our listeners
that their trucks.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Who wouldn't want them to pass a proficiency test.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Our listeners wouldn't sweat that.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
In a second eight eight eight five seven O eights,
there are a one zero triple eight five seven o
eight zero one zero, or leave us a message on
our talkback line by downloading the iHeartRadio app and looking
for kN R S orcanter s dot com. Your calls
and comments coming up on the Roden Greg Show and
Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine kN R S.
Utah is considering the same bill. I believe there's a
bill and the works up on the hill or getting

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your reaction to it. We know a lot of people
who listen to the show, our truckers or no truckers,
and we'd like your comments eight eight eight five seven
o eight zero one zero, Or you can leave us
a message on the talkback line by downloading the iHeartRadio app.
Let's go to the phones, Greg and we'll be in
on I fifteen with Tina tonight. Tina, how are you
welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 13 (39:09):
Hi there, I'm doing good.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (39:11):
We're doing well? What are your thoughts on this?

Speaker 8 (39:14):
It?

Speaker 13 (39:15):
This is a passionate subject in my house. Later in life,
my husband became a truck driver. First of all, they
have to they have to get a physical, then they
have to go to a school and it's kind of brutal.
It's not fun, okay, like for CRST or CR England,
it's not luxurious. And then after they go through that

(39:35):
training all the rules of the road, which are different
than what you and I drive, then they have to
go out with an apprentice, like a journeyman driver and
he's the apprentice for three to six months to make
sure that you really know what you're doing. And if
somebody comes from another country and doesn't have those same standards,

(39:56):
it's more than just speaking English. They need to really
be trained to drive in America, they just do.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Tina, Is that unique? Is that unique to the trucking companies?
And say, Utah, you mentioned England trucking. Is that do
you think that's a unique program to that individual company
or do you think that's that should be the norm
or that's more common amongst these trucking companies in the US.

Speaker 13 (40:21):
So that's common. The school he went to is in
southern California. Oh okay, And yeah, it's it's national. There's
there's different ones on each coast, and he chose southern California.
And it's to be honest with you, it's kind of
grueling and but a lot of emphasis is placed on safety.

(40:44):
They can't touch their phones while they're driving. You don't
read text messages. There's a lot of rules that are
in play to keep them safe and the public safe.

Speaker 10 (40:55):
There just are.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
I mean, I don't want people anybody driving to text message,
especially the big rigs.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
I agree, but I think that would eliminate me because
I do look at my phone.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Oh shame. You obviously didn't watch the Super Bowl. Why
didn't you see the spot that you dot ran during
the Super Bowl. No, it was a frightening spot. Basically,
have a dad driving in the vehicle and he warns
his family here in a second, I'm about to get
a text message and send a text message. And you,
my wife, you'll break your leg. You my son, you'll

(41:29):
have a broken arm. You my daughter, you'll be dead.
And then they cut to him texting. It's a powerful message.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, so don't do that.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Shame on you.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yeah. I discipline myself better than that. Now I feel
bad about myself. Thanks for Rod, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Just bringing that up. Let's go back to the phone.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
All right, let's go to Dennis and Orum. Dennis, Welcome
to the Rodding Gregg Show.

Speaker 10 (41:52):
Thank you, gentlemen, appreciate that. Yeah, I'm a commercial driver.
I've been driving for over fifty years, and a lot
of people don't realize it. But there is what they
call the commercial Driver's Handbook, and every driver gets one
of those. And the one that we get is maybe
about three inches by four inches, but the one that
the dot cops have is a regular, you know, eight

(42:16):
and a half by eleven and the sucker is probably
two inches thick. And the law is already the law
is already on the books, and I can't say it
forbade them, but it says that a commercial truck driver
here in the United States has to be able to read, write,
and communicate in English. It's the law already, but nobody's

(42:38):
nobody's enforcing it. That's the problem.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
See have you observed that this is not they don't care?

Speaker 10 (42:45):
Yeah, Dennis, have you say it again?

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Have you observed drivers, whether it's at a truck stop
or getting gas, that were it's not they don't know English?
Have you have you observed CDL drivers that don't have
that don't know English.

Speaker 10 (43:00):
We get we get so many people where I were,
We get so many people coming in to pick up
a load that literally has to they come in and
if we don't have somebody that speaks their language, they'll
get on the phone with their broker or whatever and
have the broker translate between the driver and our shipping

(43:21):
receiving clerk. And it's it's it's just it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.
And just just I know you guys are pressed for time,
but just to just to let you know, I got
I got stopped for an inspection. They they the commercial
cops are the ones that drive around in the pickup
trucks and I got stopped for an inspection. And I

(43:42):
asked this. This commercial cop his first name is Dustin,
and he works the section from Forum eighth eighth Street
down south towards towards Nephi in that general area like
Payson and in that area south anyway. So I asked him,

(44:03):
I said, Dustin, what's going on with that? And he said,
we now have a little quiz that we give the
drivers if there's any question in oarm I meaning his
mind is if there's a problem and they have to
get X amount of answers correctly out of this little quiz.
And he says that he was so shocked how many

(44:25):
guys he's had the red tag right there on the
side of the road because they can't communicate. See part
of the problem, what was it called NAFTA years and
years ago? The drivers. Here's the weird part. The drivers
coming up from Mexico into California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.

(44:46):
They can come up, we can't go down. We have
to stop. Like in California, you go to O Tai Mesa,
which is a little bit east of the San Diego area,
is what they call the international there. We have to
go into the international crossing and a Mexican driver either
comes up and drive your truck, which I would never allow,

(45:08):
or you ride he hooks up to your trailer and
you ride with him down in his truck, deliver your load,
and then come back. You're not allowed to drive in Mexico. Wow,
But they can come up here all they want.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
That doesn't make a whole lot of sense, does it.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
That's a good background.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
I didn't know that, Dennis. Thank you for your knowledge.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
I'm hearing a lot. And then he just gave us
all the examples of where it's not following.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Wow. All right, We've got a lot of calls, a
lot of talkback comments. We'll get to those when we
come back. It is the Wingman Wednesday edition of the
Rod and Greg Show on Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine kN R s Utah has a bill on
a bill apparently in the works through the legislature. There
is an Indiana Senator who wants to provide a tip
line for people who see someone driving new truck illegally

(45:50):
because they can't understand English. And we're getting your reaction
to it. Before we go to your calls, back to
your calls, let's listen to a couple of our talkback
lines real quick about what someone our listeners are saying. Hey,
Rodd and Greg, this is Jeremy and American Pork.

Speaker 14 (46:04):
I agree truckers need to be able to read English.
I think the Chelsea bill speak English, but not just truckers.
I think anyone who wants to drive in the US
should be able to speak and read English. But I
also think that we should apply that to citizenship as well.
Sweden Justice last week decided that they're going.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
To do that. We should do it too.

Speaker 14 (46:24):
We need to become a melting pot, not a hog
pod of chaos.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Well, a good point. Let's go to another caller.

Speaker 6 (46:30):
I got my commercial driver's license thirty years ago. I'm
telling you I've seen a lot of cleanup over the
past year.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Unfortunately, we have seen a lot of cleanup out on
the highways all across the country. All right, eight eight
eight five seven o eight zero one zero. Let's go
back to the phones, Greg.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yeah, let's go to Rick in Las Vegas. Clearly on
the iHeartRadio app. Rick, thank you for holding. Welcome to
the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 15 (46:58):
Hey, thanks for taking my call on this. You know,
there's more to it than just driving. There's safety and
security of loads. I go into shippers and receivers all
the time, and there's drivers in there that can't speak English,
can't understand the people in the warehouse. They'll come to
driver other drivers trying to talk to them, we can't

(47:20):
understand them. And then out on the road they're doing
just stupid things. They'll they'll stop right in the middle
of the freeway and get out and use the bathroom
on the side of the road. They just do stupid,
crazy things that in their home country is perfectly normal,
but here it's not. So it's more than just the speaking.

(47:41):
It's more than just driving speaking English. There's so much
more than that. This has just gotten out of hand.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Well, their habits that need to be taught as well.
Thank you for that Rick stopping in the middle of
the road. Go take them.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
I mean, come on, our listeners are so great. We
have a great perspective about this. And you hear that
there's the law, there are laws required, and we're hearing
so many examples where those laws are clearly not being
adhered to.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Yeah, back to the phones we go, Robinson, Sandy tonight
here on the Rod and Gregg Show. Hey, Rob, how
are you?

Speaker 11 (48:09):
Hey? I'm fine, Thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
What are your thoughts on this? Rob?

Speaker 11 (48:15):
Well, I'm a retired trucker and I drove Hasmat for
fifteen eighteen years, and after nine to eleven they enacted
a law that I had to have a background check,
FDI dot tsa fingerprints, the whole thing to retain my

(48:36):
Hasmat driver's license. Now, if they apply those standards to
all truckers, then I think most of the problem would
go away.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
I would agree that's a pretty detailed check on your background.
I think they would go away too.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Well, I know is I never heard anything after has
Matt I just kept thinking, I wonder is he is
he healthy? Is he okaylow in the dark? Yes, all
I could think about Rob. I didn't want to ask
him because it might be rude. I just thought, has
Matt driving?

Speaker 8 (49:06):
That?

Speaker 3 (49:06):
I love?

Speaker 2 (49:06):
I love the ID the background check, that makes all
the sense. But man, that is a job.

Speaker 10 (49:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
I don't even know that was a job. No, thank you,
I know that was a thing.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Are willing to do it?

Speaker 2 (49:15):
I was brave?

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Good man?

Speaker 1 (49:17):
All right, back to the phones.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Okay, let's go to Scott and Harriman. Scott, thank you
for holding. Welcome to the Riding Gregg Show.

Speaker 16 (49:24):
Thank you, gentlemen. I'm a certified medical examiner and as
well as your drivers mentioned prior to the break, before
you can even get your CDO learner permit, you have
to pass a medical examiner certificate. Well, the medical Examiner
certificate is only printed in English, and according to the regulations,
you're supposed to be able to read or write at

(49:45):
a fourth grade level, which that medical examiner questionnaire is
now just like everything else. If it's not just if
they can read or write it. But this also applied
to anybody that's driving a company vehicle. At ten thousand
than one pounds or greater. They don't have to have
a CDL till twenty six, but that's where the first

(50:05):
check is. The second check on their language is when
they walk in and give that medical certificate to maintain
their CDL license or to get their learners permit.

Speaker 10 (50:15):
But just like.

Speaker 16 (50:15):
Everything else, people and companies doctor shop to get a
medical examiner to pass the people they desire to receive. Now,
not only is it there in twenty thirteen, it went
to the Certified Medical Examiners to get everybody on the
same line. They have to have continuing training every five years,
pass a proficiency test the initial, and every ten years

(50:38):
after that. But still they just went to a new
thing in May for Utah in July. With most states
except thirteen that drivers aren't even allowed to take their
medical certificates into the DMB. It's got to go through
the FMCSA California and thirteen other states are ones that
are not accepting it going through the FMC as well,

(51:00):
different people bucking the laws from point to point to
point all the way down it. The laws are all
on the books, it's just nobody's enforcing them.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Well, thank you for connecting with So it's so confusing
to hear so many regulations and laws that should be followed,
and then ask yourself when we hear from these drivers,
how are all these people that aren't able to do
any of that behind the wheel of the big drug.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
I'm just hoping Sean Duffy, the Transportation Secretary, will start
cleaning this mess up.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Well, you know what we do. We have to send
him this podcast. He's going to get more eye. He
knows what to do with here.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Sarah in Salt Lake City wants to weigh in on
this tonight. Sarah, Welcome to the Rod and Gregg Show.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
Hi.

Speaker 17 (51:38):
Yeah, they definitely need to have all I mean continually
in English, all the testing everything. You cannot imagine how
many drivers we'll say I don't speak English until they're
going to be put in handcuffs. Huh, just ridicul You

(52:00):
know New York has over they have it in at
least fourteen different languages that test. That's unacceptable.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Fourteen different languages.

Speaker 17 (52:10):
I mean, you have no idea what is that on
that road. I've seen that firsthand. I know I've dealt
with it before and it's it's not good. I mean,
you have drivers arguing, you know, you go back to
your own country. When one speaks spoke in English and
the other one can't speak English, you know, it's it's ridiculous.

(52:31):
They need to have it strictly in English. The drivers
need to be able to speak and understand English and
communicate with the troopers and the officials at the port
of entries.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Well, they sure do, thank you, sir, appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Again, language medical exammer tell us how they have to
speak and write in fourth grade level, and we just
heard that they give it in all these different languages,
probably obviously a different portion of the test, I guess,
but it just doesn't really connect the dots do They
haven't use CBS anymore.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Remembering what was what was the hit they had one time?
C W McCall out a hit I don't know, I
don't remember that to young.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
BJ and the bear and also smoking the band they
used the CB to talk about.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
All right, let's get a talkback coming in before we break.

Speaker 18 (53:23):
Hello, Rod and Greg, enjoy your show. This is Robin
and Taylorsville. Yes, everyone should pass an English proficiency test.
Everyone should prove their citizen and we should make English
the official language. Oh, thank you, thank you for calling in.

(53:47):
I'm all for that. Convoy was the name of the song.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Yeah, the song and Chris Christofferson was in the movie Convoy.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Yeah, all right, more of your calls and comments coming up.
It is the Rotten Greg Show with you on this
wing and Wednesday and Talk Radio one oh five nine
k W A KNR.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
We have all these great listeners that are calling in
and have it on the job, just life experience on
this very topic. Let's go to Walter who's been patiently
waiting from harm and Walt Walter, thank you for holding.
Welcome to the Rotten Grig Show.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Thank you.

Speaker 8 (54:20):
Doctor Scott stole my thunder a few minutes ago. But
I guess I could talk about something else. A few
years ago, apparently the Department of Workforce Services here decided
that halfway houses former drug users. The trucking would be
a great industry for them to get into. Really, you
would not believe how many addicts and former addicts people

(54:43):
on all of the drugs to get them off of
the other drugs that I've had to just you know,
I'm sorry this, you know this is just not for you.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 (54:55):
That's that's one of the big ones out there.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Wow, all right, Walter Bank, thank you, Walter, thanks for
for the for the perspective. He's in the medical fields.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Well he knows, he knows that. Let's go to Stephen
west Valley. Hey, Steve, how are you welcome to the show.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
I'm doing well, Greg, Yeah, you're right on. It's it's
crazy because I'm a diabetic. I had a Class A
CEO forever and I had a spout and I went
to the doctor and they prescribed me stuff and they said,

(55:33):
you can't drive no more. So I now I'm back
to taking training the in to get my class A back,
and I got my A one C under seven. But
I can't imagine I drive around all day and I

(55:55):
can't imagine that all. I don't know how you say it,
but all these heavy set people passed their cast.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Yeah, that's important.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
It really doesn't make any sense. Let's get one more
call in real quick, coming up on a hard break here,
Let's go to Sean and Saratoga Springs. You've been wait,
Thank you for holding and welcome to the Roden Gregg Show.

Speaker 10 (56:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (56:18):
I was going to say that there's a lot of loopholes.
I'm a truck driver. I've been driving since twenty seventeen,
on and off. But the very first person I worked
was somebody from a country in the Middle East, and
she was here. She came here in a work visa
take advantage of the taxes and the different things to

(56:40):
start a business. But she became a resident but not
a citizen of the United States. And when she did that,
they had different regulations that we have to deal with.
Looser she could have looser insurance and different things like that.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
Obviously exploit tax things.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Hey, Sean, did they start using CB on the truck?
They use a CB on the truck. You got a
CB in your truck?

Speaker 19 (57:06):
Yeah, Well, this is the very first job. I've had
six truck driving jobs. This is the very first one
that I've used the CB. And honestly, there's probably a
job I'm going to retire from us. Just go away
and planning.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
All right, Chom, thank you, it's still you, by the way,
I think you would agree. I admire truckers. You were
doing it right, the ones who are removing this country
each and every day. Where would we be now?

Speaker 2 (57:30):
I frame this segment because I knew we have good,
good listeners that are on those roads every day.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
You truckers keep on rolling, as they like to say.
All right, Moore, coming up our number three of the
Rodden Gig Show.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Skiing just seems inherently dangerous. But I saw the most
dangerous version of that going through Annie took a gate
to the privates and you can hear a plaintive wail
from this man as he goes down the hill. There
isn't a micromane anywhere near him, and you can hear him. Absolutely,

(58:01):
they shouldn't laugh. Why do you laugh at such a thing.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Well, that's very you. You're the one who's laughing.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
I know.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Sorry, show, we get serious, serious topic. Let's get away
from the away we don't. All right, welcome back our
number three of the Riding Greg Show. Yeah, we are
going to get serious right now. We want to talk
about what the Democrats want to do with ICE agents.
They're now demanding, apparently in a deal that's being worked out.

(58:31):
No one's agreed to this as I yet, for ICE
to obtain judicial warrants, and they're experts saying that could
bring enforcement to a hault. Joining us on our Newsmaker
line to talk about this is Jessica Jessica costas Que.
She is with the Washington Free Beacon. Jessica, thanks for
joining us on the Rod and Gregg Show. How are you.

Speaker 20 (58:50):
Today, Jessica, Thanks so much for having me back.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
I'm good.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
All right, let's talk about what they're trying to do
and why the experts saying this demand is way out
of line.

Speaker 20 (59:00):
Yeah, certainly so. Just like you briefly mentioned, last week,
Congressional Democrats they released a list of ten demands that
they say are necessary to quote unquote rain and ice
as part of this ongoing fight over funding for the
Department of Homeland Security. And the first item that was
on that list was tightening warrant rules, but specifically requiring

(59:22):
judicial warrants for immigration arrests. And so I spoke to
several immigration experts about this and about what it would
mean in practice, and essentially what I learned is that
this is as practical of a solution as you can
get to abolishing the police. Not abolishing the police, sorry,
abolishing ice, because they won't be able to do their jobs.

(59:43):
For instance, one of the experts that I spoke to,
she said that because of the backlog and the court system,
how much longer it would actually take to get a
judicial warrant. We're talking about the ICE's capacity to actually
enforce immigration law could drop by ninety percent.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
So this is this is the slow bake it. It
is to do exactly as you've described, to halt it,
to keep it from happening. Tell me about the Obama administration.
I understand that they were quite successful at removals and
deportations two point seven million. They had a rocket docket
to if they had to hold people, they could get
them out quickly. What's I know that the Democrats are

(01:00:23):
screaming at Trump and they certainly didn't about Obama. But
did did President Obama with that high of a number
of removals deportations, did he have to go so far
into the interior of our country or deal with the
things that President Trump has to deal with to try
and do the same.

Speaker 20 (01:00:38):
Right, That's a great point. It's it's very much just
you know, it's selective outrage. And this is what people
are you know, on the left room at about nowadays.
So this, you know, exactly like you said, Obama was
doing the same exact thing. And the point about the
administrative warrants being different than judicial warrants. Obviously, judicial warrants

(01:00:59):
you have to go in front of a judge, but
typically a judge won't give you a warrant unless there's
this separate federal offense that's been committed. Because immigration law
is civil, it's a civil offense, So administrative, an administrative
warrant is just the authority that many agencies in the
government have. For instance, IRS has the ability to put

(01:01:22):
out administrative warrants, so does the National Park Service, so
does the EPA. So this is nothing new, and not
to mention the fact that should and it's kind of
looking that way. The deadline is Friday for the funding.
Should the Department of Homeland Security shut down because of
the lack of funding, ICE actually wouldn't even be affected

(01:01:45):
thanks to funding from President Trump last year through the
One Big Beautiful Bill. It would actually be FEMA and
TSA or the Coast Guard that are going to be affected.
So I don't think a lot of you know, members
of Congress are going to be able to fly home
if they don't actually vote this through.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Yeah, there were leaders from those organizations that you just
mentioned testifying today saying, hey, you got to fix this, Jessica.
Can you give us an update as to this one
demand as well from the Democrats that ICE agents be
prohibited from wearing masks or other face coverings. What are
you hearing about that? Is that going to stand? Is
that going to be a negotiating point? Where does this
stand right now?

Speaker 8 (01:02:21):
On?

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
It?

Speaker 7 (01:02:22):
No?

Speaker 20 (01:02:23):
Very similar. That one's a non starter, both for just
Republicans in Congress and the administration. I spoke obviously to
the immigration experts, but I've also spoken to ICE agents
and you know, just people that work in law enforcement
and federal law enforcement. If you're conducting immigration arrests, you
don't need someone to have your name or let alone

(01:02:45):
your face, given the very serious dosing that is happening.
I mean, I don't have the exact numbers in front
of me, but threats against federal law enforcement agents, specifically ICE,
are you know, over one thousand percent than what they
were during the Biden administration. It's just you can't quantify it. So,
you know, what is the point of having ICE agents unmasked?

(01:03:07):
It's just so when they come into power, they you
know that. I mean, I've heard many things from Democrats
saying that they want to imprison ICE agents, that they
want to imprison you know, the Secretary of Homeland Security.
There's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
So let me ask you this, is there anything in
the list of demands that the Democrats want that isn't
akin to just stopping the enforcement of federal immigration law.
I mean, everything that you've named are non non starters.
But is there anything constructive, anything that is, with a
straight face, would would not be a would not stop

(01:03:43):
deportations and removals, and might be better practice.

Speaker 20 (01:03:47):
Yeah, certainly when the specific one that I'm thinking of
when you say that is that they requested body cameras
for Ice, and that actually was something that Republicans had
already agreed to the week before Democrats even put out
this list of demands. So it's a lot of posturing too.
It's just they need to show their voters and their

(01:04:08):
other you know, people in the Democratic Party that they're
doing something about this, but you know they already want
Republicans already agreed to body cameras. And then the rest
of the stuff is very much you know, Oh, you
have to uphold the use of four standards. That's already
a thing. I mean, there's already just like any other
law enforcement agency, local, state, you name it, there's all

(01:04:30):
of these things to prevent discrimination and to prevent excessive
use of force. These are already things that are on
the books, but they just want to put it on
paper to make it seem like it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Yeah, but aren't we seeing stories out there, Jessica, Haven't
I seen some stories of light where the Democrats are going?
You know, that bodycam thing. It may not be such
a good idea after all, haven't some of the Democrats
backtracked on that.

Speaker 20 (01:04:52):
It's certainly a double edged sword. So it's it's too
late they asked for it, or they're going to get it.
I think they have the funding for it. It's just
a matter of time until every single ICE agent is
outfitted with a body camera.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Where do you see this all going from this point
as you've been looking at this, Where do you see
this going? Because the clock is certainly ticking.

Speaker 20 (01:05:13):
Yeah, I mean, the deadline really is is tomorrow Tomorrow night.
If there is no deal that's reached, or at least
Democrats agree to another two week extension to negotiate this,
there's going to be a partial shutdown. And like I said,
you know, ICE wouldn't even be affected, and it's probably

(01:05:34):
not going to be good either to shut down you know,
airports and god forbid, there's a disaster. So some of
these things are non starters, and they should be non starters, because,
like I said, if you have judicial warrants, and the
way the Democrats phrased it in their list of demands,
they made it very vague on purpose, and they mentioned that, oh,

(01:05:55):
you need judicial warrants ten for private property, but they
wrote it in such a way that that actually can
mean cars as well. And usually what ICE does is
that they use these as administrative warrants. They wait until
the illegal immigrant goes out to their car, and then
they'll arrest them. So if this became a thing, it's
very possible that you wouldn't even be able to, you know,

(01:06:16):
take someone into custody to deal with their immigration case,
because you wouldn't even be able to pull them out.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Of the car.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Why do I think, Jessica, this is all performative. I
kind of get that sensor right now, don't you. Yeah, certainly, Jessica,
thank you so much for joining us. Great to have
you back on the show, and we'll do so again.
Thank you, thank you all right on our Newsmaker line
that's Jessica Costaque from the Washington Free Beacon talking about
what the Dems are trying to do. They'll do anything

(01:06:43):
to stop ice, and they aren't going to succeed. Greg.
The American people are supportive of what the president.

Speaker 16 (01:06:48):
Is going to do.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Here a Democrat because you don't even have to have
a good argument. You just have to have say something
and you don't get called on it. They don't. The
media doesn't dissect the lunacy of what you're proposing. It's
a Democrat. If there are publicans propose anything, even things
that make sense, it just gets it just gets diced
and sliced and repeated back in crazy terms. But if
you're a Democrat in America, boy, you got an easy job.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Well you do? I mean, look how easy on the
safe voting neck what they're throwing out now, twenty one
million people won't be voting. No no argument as to why.
Here's another one. Married women will not be allowed to vote.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Did you know that a woman married woman can't? That
would be news to Queen Bee. She's she's votes every
time she has a chance, and so I But no, no,
they can just say things like that or just just
to get away with two point zero just say that
because it rhymes. You know, it rhymes, so it doesn't
have to have merit, it just rhymes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
It just rhymes. They get away with it every time.
All right, More coming up here on the Rodden Greg
Show on This Wingman Wednesday and Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine k n RS.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
There's some funny videos out there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
I'm telling you, well, I've watched the Skier video several
times now and it just cracks me up. It might
be the highlight of the Can we post this on
our X page? I think we shout it, yeah, I
just so people can see it. So Skier going down
the hill. I think it was at the Olympics, even
though I can't tell. But he didn't get through the gate.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Well, he takes a flag the gate to the groin
as well said.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Do you hear a moaning after? That's what the more
hilarious part of.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
This, because there's no it's not like he's miked up.
So when you hear him just scream, hear this plaintive
whale it's from far away, which.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
It really hurt. Yeah, Yeah, that's what's really got the guy.
We'll put up on her ex page. If you guys
want to take a look at it, just go to
x and look for the Roden greg show and it's there.
Latest on the search for Nancy Guthrie. They found a glove,
a black glove in the foothills not far from her home,
in that general vicinity, all right, And of course the

(01:08:46):
video show yesterday that the guy who was at her
front door messing around trying to hide the camera had
a pair of black kind of gloves on them, like
you'd wear if you were dealing with chemicals or something. Right,
It's not the latex ones that you see all over
the place. But so they found that today and everyone speculating,
well is that connected to this?

Speaker 8 (01:09:05):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
I feel sorry for is the guy they arrested.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Late last night, the door dash guy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
The door dash guy, I mean here he is he?
You know? He apparently he was apprehended in an area
called real Roco I think something like that, you know,
And he didn't have anything to do with it. And
after they investigated him and were asking him questions, listened
to his response when he was interviewed by the media
about what happened to him.

Speaker 17 (01:09:30):
So, what are you going to do now?

Speaker 21 (01:09:32):
I don't try to clear my name. I don't do anything.
I mean, I hope they get the suspect, so I'm
not eight. They better do their job and find the
suspect that did it so they can clear my name.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
I'm done.

Speaker 21 (01:09:49):
Even my parents are Tucson.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
And your mother in law was worried about you. She
was saying, it doesn't look anything like that.

Speaker 11 (01:09:57):
Why do you think they came here?

Speaker 12 (01:09:59):
Why did you think.

Speaker 21 (01:09:59):
They if I, if I would have known the answered,
I would have did it to you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
But I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
They showed up in his mother in law's house and
went through her house looking for the Guthrie woman. Where
is she? Where is she? Sorry? Wow? And he didn't
even know who Savannah Guthrie is, They asked, I don't
even know. I don't know who she is.

Speaker 16 (01:10:19):
Is a rando?

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Or was he?

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Did he deliver food into that neighborhood? Is that? Is
there something real to I mean, was he in the vicinity?

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
At least?

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
I don't know?

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Must be he sounds annoyed. I think I would be
a little annoyed. I think that's a little guilty till
proven innocent moment.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
There's kind of just kind of crazy well, uh, we
were speaking of the Olympics just a moment ago. Yes, uh,
you were talking about yesterday. Was it a curler, an
American curler who decided to go after ice.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
I'm an ATTORNEYUM in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
And yeah, we've had a rough and yeah, on and
on and on. Right. Well, jd Vance, our great vice president,
had a thought on these Olympians speaking out athletes were unbelievable.

Speaker 20 (01:10:58):
And I know the entire country is really Yes, you're
going to have some Olympic athletes who pop off about politics.

Speaker 16 (01:11:03):
I feel like that happens every Olympics.

Speaker 14 (01:11:05):
My advice to them would be to try to bring
the country together.

Speaker 9 (01:11:09):
And when you're representing the country, you're representing Democrats and Republicans.

Speaker 10 (01:11:14):
You're there to play a sport and you're there to represent.

Speaker 16 (01:11:16):
Your country, and hopefully when a medal, you're.

Speaker 15 (01:11:18):
Not there to pop off about politics.

Speaker 10 (01:11:20):
So when Olympic athletes enter the political.

Speaker 12 (01:11:22):
Arena, they should expect some pushback. But most of Olympic athletes,
whenever they're politics, are doing a great job, are certainly
enjoyed the support of the entire.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Country, and I think recognize that the.

Speaker 15 (01:11:32):
Way to bring the country together is not to show
up in a foreign country and attack the president of
United States.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Amen to that. JD. Vans And I'm still impressed with
Governor Cox said yesterday at that news media, that news
conference they had or all the all the Olympic officials
from Salt Lake were there, and he basically said, Hey,
I don't like those questions. Man, don't need to ask
those type of questions.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
They're just trying to create news. They're not reporting them.
They're trying to create.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Report on their achievements. Talk about the stories behind them
and how they got here. Those are the stories that
I think we all love. What do you think of
Donald Trump and what's going on in your country? What's
going on in your country? Yeah, hey, buddy, how about
your country? How many people have left your country to
come to the United States because they hate your country exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
You know what our problem is. Everybody wants to get
away from you and your country come here. That's that's
that's what we're talking.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
About, and here illegally.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
By then, when you're going to disparage the country that
everyone wants to go to.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Hey, by the way, we will be on the road tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
We will.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Yeah, we're going to we're going to be we we
rarely venture down into Utah County. I don't know if
they don't like us or what it is done. You
think they would like us.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
I always thought you always want to do live remote
near your house.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
Well, yeah, close, faster I get home and night.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
So it's always north north.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
But we're going to we'll be in Oorum. We're going
south and manky cotour tomorrow justin And now there are
a lot of guys out there going, oh, what do
I get her from Valentine's Day? This is a cheat.
This is a life that we are bailing about it.
Matter of fact, they when they come in and buy
a blame it. They should pay us.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
They really should. I'm telling you because because I wouldn't.
I wouldn't naturally just wander into a blanket store just
on my own. But if I listened to this show
and I had some had rod Arkutt tell me this
is a this is a hack, this is a cheat.
You go get one of these and you're gonna be
You're done, the greatest gift you'll ever give. I would go,
I would go, and then it would be and I
don't think you Here's the thing about those blankets. Once

(01:13:24):
you get one, it's not like you're done because everyone
loves them, and then they start to fight for him.
Even your pets love My dog Ruby, Oh my gosh,
she loves she loves it. Just she's she gets real luxurious.
She lays out on that blanket.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
Well, my question is if you buy a nice minky
blanket for the sweetheart in your life? Yes, does it
cover you for two years?

Speaker 22 (01:13:45):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
No, really insurance policy for two years?

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
No way, I it just it's just what's the appetite
they want? They people want more of those once they
have one. It's true, amen to that. So I've got
a many get one. But you know what it's like.
The people there are so nice too. They can spot
a clueless guy walking around a store in a second.
They just see us and they know we don't know
what we're doing. And they have the grandees and they

(01:14:11):
have the ones over here. They even robes they got,
they get all.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Kinds of pajamas they got.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
They kept telling you go there, take care of you,
they'll help you out. The it's it's effortless.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
And then you have to are we that easily identified
when we don't know what we're doing men. Yes, I
mean it's like deer in the headlight, right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
I I am that way, and I've seen other there's
a there's a fraternity of us. We all look at
each other like, you know what we're doing here now?
I don't know. I don't know either. It's like going
on this guy going with your wife to the mall
and there's she's trying something on and you're holding her
purse and you gotta standing there and trying to hold
it masculine, throwing it under your arms. So it's not

(01:14:51):
like it's not like an accessory that you own. You
so I hold it and then you know, if you haven't,
I hope they have a chair I can sit in.
But you don't know what to do. You have nothing
to look at.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
The smart women's clothing stores put chairs for guys to
sit down.

Speaker 8 (01:15:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
If I have a place to sit, she can shop forever.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
Yeah, because I have a phone now. But I'll tell
you before the phone came around. You're sitting there, there's
nothing to look at. You're just and you can't be
like looking at other people. They think you're weird, so
you just have to sit and it's just terrible. But
you see a guy. He's in the same he's trapped
like a rat like you are, and you're like, hey,
you got ahead, Yeah together, okay, truth?

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Truth question. She walks out of the dressing room with
a new outfit. It's horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Do you tell her that, I've never seen my Queen
Bee in a horrible Maybe you have to go through.
I've only seen my wife look spectacular of movie stars, beautiful.
Everything she puts on. There's nothing she's ever put on
that's not look good. Ever had that trial? I guess
you do. That sounds like a you issue. Not I'll

(01:15:52):
be foisting that on me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
You are so full of it. I've never done anything
Queen Bee. Is that she's in the back recesses of
your mind.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
I don't know what you're talking about. You might as
well speak a different language. I don't even know. I
can't even hear you right now.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
You are bailing your butt out.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
She looks like a million bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
All right. Marking a final half hour of the Rod
at Greg Show, You're on Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine kN R S story out tonight. Greg. It
looks like a record number of Super Bowl viewers stopped
watching once bad Bunny started his halftime.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Performance, I would be included in that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Accordey to this report, based on his understanding of the data.
According to this reporter, Bad Bunny lost more of the
Super Bowl viewership from the end of the second quarter
than has ever happened before.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
That's something. Yeah, that's that's the you know, yeah, that's
that's that should be right. I just wish they'd just stopped.
Just just let remember what they used to be. They
used to be the recognizable stars that were quite popular,
even if they were even older. Maybe they had a
bunch of hits in the past, but they're coming back.
There's always these different moments, but this I just don't.
I just didn't want to watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Question I have where the country music starts. The country
music is a powerful music force in this country, a
very very very dedicated audience. I mean, you have a
popular country music radio station, they will absolutely love you.
And the audience. I mean, I would imagine would you
agree with me that a lot of country music fans
are also football fans?

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Yes, so easily. And here's the thing. Really, the number
of people that opted out and did want to watch
Bad Bunny was aided by the fact that there was
the All American halftime show by Kid Rock, which did
feature country music artist. Yes, so you did have an
alternative to watch. And it's not the first time it's
happened in America. There's been other Super Bowls where there
was an alternative super Bowl show, but this one, it

(01:17:46):
doesn't surprise me that it was more people than ever,
because do you see how they interviewed the football players, like,
what's your favorite bad bunny song? Don't I've never heard?
It's like, okay, great, alienate your entire base out there
and find people that don't watch football.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Well, joining us on our Newsmaker line. And we always
love having Ian on this show.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
Great.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
We're talking about Ian how Worthy as an author of
political commentator. He wrote an article that Greg and I
gret now Ian, most times we tend to agree with
you now, but there are times when we don't. In
this article where you're saying the NFL sucked us in,
we can't agree with you on this one.

Speaker 22 (01:18:24):
No, I'd expect you not to agree. That's really the
the reason I'm dragged on for a course of humiliate.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Now I'm getting the.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Reason I wrote it is.

Speaker 22 (01:18:33):
I think it's to try and make that kind of
the more subtle point that I think it's fine to
think it was a terrible performance because it was terrible
before this. I didn't even know who Bad Bunny was,
don't particularly enjoy his music, if you can call it that.
I think having a performance all in Spanish is not
exactly the most pro American direction we can take in
the culture war. I think all of those things are

(01:18:54):
perfectly fair to say. I think my problem is is
that you can understand why the are doing it, and
I think the direction the right is taking with this
huge I think disproportional level of outrage only makes it
kind of more profitable to the NFL because more people
are seeing it because the right is so annoyed. I

(01:19:15):
think there are things we can do to impact this.
I think we can elevate people we would rather see
on that kind of stage and things like that. But
going to Twitter and talking endlessly about the halftime show
rather than say the football at a football event, I
think it kind of makes it very easy to repeat
this over and over again. We saw the same thing
with the Barbie movie, for example, Conservative commentators put out

(01:19:37):
so much anti Barbie content that it's just millions upon
millions of dollars in free advertising for these movies. That's
only going to help them keep making those same kind
of movies. And so I think sometimes it's okay to
be against it. I certainly didn't enjoy it, but I
think how you do that also matters.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
So it's not that I completely disagree, but I think
you're just biased football football and you you actually call
it American gridiron. So that's that's where we start with
our differences.

Speaker 22 (01:20:06):
I'm going to right, assimilated soccer is not football football.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
You're the best.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
I love it, Okay, So but let's go to this.
I actually I had no desire to go online and
and to opine about about that show. But I was
actually grateful that there was this kid rock All American
halftime show because leading up to the halftime show, U
I and I had never heard of Bad Bunny until
they announced that he would be performing. I I saw

(01:20:35):
the dresses, and I saw the If you want to
understand what I'm saying, you better learn Spanish. I heard
the the diatribe at the Grammys about Ice. I just
felt as if I was going to be exposed to more,
uh more politics. And during the super Bowl than I wanted,
So I liked having them alternative, and I think that's okay.
I to your point. I don't think we have to

(01:20:56):
spend a whole lot of time online opining about it,
but I do think there should be an alternative to that.
But one of the things that you said in your
article was that there's nothing to gain. There's nothing to
gain to make your base of those that already love
the Super Bowl happy, but there's everything to gain if
you're able to reach out to a broader audience in
campaigns and elections. The opposite is true. They say you

(01:21:16):
got to start with your mom and workout, aren't Isn't
there something to be lost if you do alienate your
base of everyday American football fans in an attempt to
reach out internationally and maybe pull in a larger audience.
I think taking your base for granted, even if it's
the NFL, I think there's a lot you could lose
that in that instance where am I off.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
Yeah, I think you're right.

Speaker 22 (01:21:40):
I think the NFL is constantly engaged in this kind
of tightrope game of trying to be as controversial as
possible as quote unquote diverse as possible with this kind
of stuff, but also while trying not to completely alienate people.
So for example, during the you know, Black Lives Matter era,
I think they went too far. I think they did
alienate a lot of people, and in some instances they

(01:22:02):
did lose viewership, if not viewership support. And so I
think with this kind of thing, with the halftime show,
it's kind of more separated from the game. You know,
people will still watch the game. It's not like bad
Bunny as Pranto round during third down and screaming out
of some Spanish. You know, if you're going to watch
the football, you can watch the football, and you can
do what football fans do do in the halftime, which

(01:22:23):
is go get a drink, go to the bathroom, you know,
get walk around a little bit. And so I think
that's what they're trying to do. Is I think they
know that full well, and I think they're trying to
walk that tightrope. Whether or not they do it successfully
is really a matter of time.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
Ian, what do we have been talking more about this
if it would have been a better game. And let's
be honest, the game was horrible in everything to talk
about except the halftime.

Speaker 22 (01:22:45):
So all of this is the Seahawks and the Patriots
follow and I'm happy to play both of those teams,
but most of my problems in my life, and I
think this time that might actually be reliable.

Speaker 7 (01:22:54):
Ian.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
Did we play right into the NFL hands in a
way They knew this was going to be controversy, and
so did we play into theirs by really focusing maybe,
as you say, a little too much on the halftime show?

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (01:23:05):
Absolutely, I think again, as I wrote in the article,
I think it's fine to have opinons on things, but
sometimes you've got to know kind of what your opponents,
or your enemies, or however you want to frame it,
what they want from you, and I think sometimes falling
into their hands every single time with our very predictable outrage.
You know, a lot of this is marketing. It's not
like bad Bunny out of nowhere started telling people to

(01:23:26):
learn Spanish. You know, all of this comes from pre
plan meetings. It's all scripted, like we live in a
reality TV show twenty four to seven. None of this
is kind of off the cuff, and so I think
a big part of this is how do we get
free advertising from all of the people on the right
wing online space who do nothing but tweet all day,
and I think sometimes we could really surprise them by
just ignoring it. Perhaps, And of course it's still going

(01:23:50):
to be a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
We still have to address it.

Speaker 22 (01:23:51):
It won't go away by ignoring it, but we won't
be rewarding it in the way that I do think
we're rewarding it by giving it so much airtime.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
So Ian, let me ask you, what about that alternative
halftime show? Does that cut into a market share? Do
advertisers worry about that? There were you can count streamers,
so there were five million sources where that performance was
being watched. Nielsen does like forty two thousand homes they
do one hundred thousand they call devices, so five millions

(01:24:19):
more than what Nielsen uses to try and measure their audience.
Is there a substance Do you think there's a substantial
audience that actually left because they it wasn't they didn't
think it'd be entertaining going somewhere else that could actually
impact advertisers' decision whether to advertise on the halftime show
or not.

Speaker 22 (01:24:38):
Yeah, I think it was definitely an impact. I don't
know how significant it was, just because the scale of
the super Bowl is so insane. There's really nothing like
it in the world, and so it's hard to know
with each change on a year on year what the
actual impact was, but it certainly had a impact. I
think it demonstrated that there's an audience out there for
different kinds of music. I'm not necessarily going to cheer

(01:24:59):
on Kid Rock because not a fan of his music
much either, but just the idea that there are other
styles of music out there that certainly has been ignored
by the NFL in recent years. Just for example, country music.
I think a country music halftime show, given the country
music still one of the growing areas of the music industry,
would be amazing and bring a lot of people back

(01:25:20):
to the screen who may not have been watching otherwise.
But I think an alternative is always good, if anything,
because it creates competition and it reminds people that there
are other options out there, whether it be at the
super Bowl or other events.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
To Ian Howarth, we're kind of igan. We disagreed with him,
but he's right.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
I like him. He's done the program before. He's always
funny to talk to, and even when he gets a
little wrong, he's good. He can defend himself quite well.

Speaker 10 (01:25:47):
You know, for a.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
What do you call wimy?

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
You have to ask Abby that that could be a derogatory.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
Term now just heard it once?

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Yeah, hey, you may have made every English listener in
our audience mad by calling it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
In a bad way.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
Uh huh, you know, all right? Some final thoughts maybe
trying to bail mister Hughes out if we possibly can
coming up on the Roden greg Show in Utah's talk
radio one oh five nine k n rs. But I
imagine here in Soul Lake because the Olympics will be
here if you can believe it in eight years. Yes, goodbye?
Like that right? A lot of people paying attention to it.
There have been some great moments already in the Olympics,

(01:26:31):
some sad moments with the Olympics taking a stand against
the United States, against Donald Trump. Not all of them
have done that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
American snowboarder Chloe Kim, a reporter there tried to hook
her into this, Uh what is taking place out there?
Listen to her response?

Speaker 20 (01:26:47):
President Trump has called your teammate hunter has a real loser.
Would anybody like to address that or talk about how
you feel representing Team USA?

Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
Right?

Speaker 23 (01:26:55):
Now, obviously my parents being immigrants, this one definitely has
pretty close to home. And I think in moments like these,
it is really important for us to unite and kind
of stand up for for one another for all that's
going on. And I think that I'm really proud to

(01:27:15):
represent the United States. It's the US has given my
family and I so much opportunity. But I also think
that I we are allowed to voice our opinions on
what's going on, and I think that we need to
lead with love and compassion.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
And I would love to.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
See some more of that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
Boy. Good for Chloe Kim. Huh how about that Greg?

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Yeah, she walked, she walked that line.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Yeah, and these are exactly the point that the governor
made in his remarks yesterday. You're feeding these these athletes
questions that you know, could get them.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
Into Yeah, when do you think of what I'm saying that?
I mean, that's there's no there's nothing about the Olympic
Games that's in that question at all. It's just meant
to it's just meant to cause division. And ye. Anyway, Yeah,
I got my list of things that I'm going to
ask my good friend Brad Wilson when he gets back. Yeah,
when he gets back, we just need the We don't
want the medals to break, so we went medals that
don't break minor point. And we think Team USA should

(01:28:11):
really love USA. We think that there should be no
shame or lecture attached to having our country flag or
letters on their uniform.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
Here is a shocker of the day. You'll agree with
this one. CNN has lost nearly two thirds of its
viewership since twenty sixteen.

Speaker 10 (01:28:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
Thirds, couldn't happen to network of a viewership. Yeah, Jake
Tapper Anderson Cooper, you listening for losers. Nobody is watching you.
I can't believe that. I mean, you wouldn't be around
for long in this business. If if we lost two
thirds of our audience, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
It'd be nice knowing you be over.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
We'd be done by bye, yes, bye bye. Yeah. CNN
two thirds of its viewership since twenty sixteen.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Yeah, I think that's I don't think that is coming back.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
No do I not? The way they're handling thinks right now?
All right? That does it for us? Tonight, head up,
shoulderns back, and God bless you and your family this
great country of our join us tomorrow we're on the
road at minking gotur In forum, we'll talk to you
then have a good evening.

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