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February 5, 2026 82 mins
The Rod and Greg Show Daily Rundown – Thursday, February 5, 2026

4:20 pm: Economist Steve Moore, co-founder of Unleash Prosperity, joins Rod and Greg for their weekly conversation about politics and the nation’s economy, and today they’ll discuss President Trump’s creation of a critical minerals reserve, and the effects of tariffs.

4:38 pm: Drag queens across Utah are up in arms about Representative Colin Jack’s HB 114 proposal, and Jack joins Rod and Greg to explain what his bill accomplishes in terms of creating new stand-alone offenses for crimes involving pornographic or harmful performances.

6:05 pm: Andrew Kerr, Investigative Reporter for the Washington Free Beacon, joins the show to discuss the story of a hate crime hoax in Texas where, in 2021, a black mother and her attorney falsely claimed that white kids forced her son to drink urine. Now that mother owes the alleged organizer $3.2 million in damages.

6:38 pm: Pawel Styrna, Director of International Affairs for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, joins the show for a conversation about a new report from the group showing how Joe Biden’s open border policies invited preventable crime into the country.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It in like a lion, out like a lamb. Yeah,
we've been a lamb.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
We've been February lamb.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
No lion, we've been like the lamb. There hasn't been
lying to come in to Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Here in a few minutes, we'll talk with Steve more.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Now.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Steve usually comes out here in March to ski. He
loves skiing here in the state of Utah.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Should we tell him that?

Speaker 2 (00:18):
But I don't know. Should we let them know they're
not a whole lot of snow?

Speaker 4 (00:22):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
I think we should trick everyone to still come so
we get the tourism dollars. Then we find out when
we're here. Hey, this is a rock climbing experience for you.
You get to hike these mountains. You thought you were
going to ski them?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Like them, get up there. I like them. Well, it's
so good to be with you on this Thursday. We've
got a lot to get to today. We mentioned Steve.
We'll talk to Steve about the the economy and where
things stand right now. There's an interesting bill up on
the hill. I don't know if you saw these. Apparently
there are a lot of people who dressed in drag
yesterday and they were the state capitol. But there is

(00:52):
a bill on that. We'll talk with the sponsor behind
that a little bit later. On another hoax about race.
This happened down in Texas, and we'll explain what that
is all about. And we'll look at the open borders
and how they're bringing in the criminals. Well, used to
bring in the criminals. They aren't doing so anymore. So
we've got a lot to get to and as always,
we invite you to be a part of the program.

(01:14):
Eight eight eight five seven oh eight zero one zero
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you know, job cars are important in college. Job fares
kids you know going through school take you know, look

(01:35):
a career opportunities. I you know, iHeart has been involved
in him over the past. We you know, we has
fun to talk to students and kids in college about
futures and broadcasting and the media and the like. But
there are the last couple of days, there's been one
at UVU and one today. I guess down at BYU.
But there's a rather interesting twist taking place.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
So ridiculous. Yeah, just you know Mike Junior, my kid,
he's a senior this year. I'm gonna ask him peace gun.
He's up at USU, but I want to know if
he's gone any job fares. I want to know what's
going on over there. Yeah, because these two stories don't
sit well with me. Yeah, that's not what I expected.
A job fair.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Well, well I've had a job well apparently, uh, students
at UVU and again today at by U job fares
and invited. There are people from Border Patrol. Yes, okay,
the General.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Lawenforce CIA likes these Utahn's boy, they come in un
try to get them because they don't think they're gonna
have all these life hang ups that are going to
compromise them. They're not going to have all the honey
buckets chase them.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Around because they're the clean livers.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah they would clean.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, yeah, drama, no drama. But apparently these students who
do not like ice, they've been fed you know ice
is bad or border patrol is bad, have been out protesting.
They protested yesterday peacefully, May I say peacefully? Uh at
UVU today, I would imagine it's peaceful. But what are
they so afraid of about going to work for ICE

(02:53):
or going to work for border patrol.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Well, you know, it's not for everybody. I I don't
think the very people that would that would protest, I
don't think would. I think that's natural selection. We wouldn't
want them to be law enforce federal law enforcement officers.
But you know what, they need to back off and
let people decide what they want to do, and I
let them have the options for their career. What's sad
about what's happening at BYU amongst these students and at

(03:15):
UVU is this narrative that somehow them being present is
dangerous or is promoting violence or danger when their entire
mission is the opposite of It is to protect and
to serve. That's what they do. Now. You might not
like the federal laws that they enforce, but as Tom
Homan has said repeatedly, then have Congress change them, because

(03:37):
they are the laws of the land. So these students,
I don't know what laws would you like to cherry
pick and then decide the profession that the lawful profession
And now the enforcement of the laws is somehow wrong
and you shouldn't people say they shouldn't be part of
a job fair, give me a break.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Well, apparently at BYU there was a group of BYU faculty, staff, students,
and alumni speaking out against this. They issued a statement
to the administration get by the list of this greg
We believe the current domestic operation of these agencies, referring
to Border Patrol and ICE are in direct conflict with
the spiritual and ethical standards of our BYU community. So

(04:17):
apparently that community is not into law enforcement or crime.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
They like lawlessness.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
They like lawlessness apparently, So.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Do yourself a favor. Go to the ICE pages. There's
one for Salt Lake City, there's the national one, and
then there's other areas, and you can go to Saint
Paul's ICE page and the official one, the official one,
and look at the and look at the mugshots and
the and the profiles of the people that are being
arrested and deported every day. These are not people that
would fit into the BYU culture that they're talking about.

(04:45):
The people that they're removing just wouldn't fit in very well.
In provo, the rape, child rapists, you know, uh, battery, robbery,
you know, those those crimes. I just don't think you're
finding it in the honor code at BYU. I don't
think you're finding it on campus at UVU, or you
shouldn't so. I just think that those that are enforcing
federal law, immigration laws and them looking for the most

(05:08):
the people that have been convicted of crimes, they're in jail,
they're being relate sheriffs or letting them know they're here
so they go and get them. M hm, you really,
I don't you shouldn't take offense to that?

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, really should?

Speaker 1 (05:18):
You know?

Speaker 2 (05:19):
What would be interesting Greg? Down there as they're on
one side of the hallway and they've been peaceful, Okay,
that's fine. On the other side of the hallway, we
should put big old pictures of these these criminals who
have been apprehended and say, would you like this rapist
to be on your campus?

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:33):
This would you like this child molester to be on
your campus? They aren't here today because of iSER border patrol?
What say you on that? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (05:41):
These are these are criminal child rapist degenerates and you're
defending them or you want them to stay unharmed, uninterrupted
to roam our community. Are you kidding me. Yeah, I mean,
and and I'm not making it up. I'm telling you.
This is what I appreciate about ICE is that they
not only do they show the mugshots and who they
are arresting so that we have a better understanding, but
they'll actually take a story from like the New York Times.

(06:03):
I saw it in one of the posts that's just
posted today where they misrepresented what I did, and so
they give the full detail of who that person really
was and what really happened, so that you won't just
think what they're they're putting out there in the regime
media is a truth, because it's it's grossly distorted. And
you learned that when you go to that site and
you hear the details in there. I mean they're right there.

(06:24):
They lay out the whole rap sheet everything.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
You know, Well, it's funny yesterday at UVU. As a
matter of fact, the story in the Dead's Red News
today and you know, covering the UVU demonstration or the
protest down there. You kind of read that and it's
like kids are scared at UVU because what happened to
Charlie Kirk back in September. They're still afraid and still
trying to process that they don't feel their area is safe.
I don't see the connection, but I.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Think you'd want more law enforcement in that moment, not less.
I don't think it's well, it's a law enforcement that
it was your problem in that story. No, I don't
think that was the problem, now give me it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
So just kind of interesting to see how this is
going on throughout the country and even at schools like
BYU and UVU, which we would consider well. I used
to say we're conservative schools. I don't think that's the
case anymore, but not anymore are showing their opposition to
ice and border patrol. All right, when we come back,
we'll check in with a good friend, economist Steve Moore,

(07:18):
co founder of Unleashed Prosperity. That's coming up on the
Rotten Greig Show right here on Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine Can Arrest Don't Forget Starting on Monday,
we have a brand new program that we'll have on
the air, is called Our American Stories. Clyde Lewis and
Ground Zero going away. Clyde had some health problems. They
won't be syndicating this anymore. Clyde was in this Salt

(07:38):
Lake City area on radio for a number of years.
Many of you know him. And we've got a brand
new show called Our American Stories. It's very similar to
what Paul Harvey used to do his old features called
The Rest of the Stories. But they tell great stories
about great Americans and great events. And we'll start that
coming up on Monday at ten. So we invite you
to tune in and enjoy that time. Now talk to

(07:59):
Steve Moore.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yes, favorite time you know Steve. This is a great
I love this weekly discussion. Sometimes he's too busy, he's
too Hollywood for us. He's in the White House, you know,
he's doing all this important stuff, but he never forgets Uh,
he's dancing with Hugh Burnham.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
That's us, and that's us and Steve's joining us right now. Steve,
thanks for joining us on the Rowden greg Show. On
this Thursday afternoon, the President announced a new critical mineral stockpile,
long past overdue. A lot of people are saying, what
may what say you about this?

Speaker 5 (08:29):
Absolutely essential? And you know, we actually have a massive
critical mythical mineral stockpile and it's underneath the ground in
Utah and Montana and the Kuodas and Colorado. And the
real shame is that we have not been mining in
this country for thirty years, and so we've allowed Russia

(08:49):
and China and our adversaries to take over an industry
when no country has more minerals than the United States
of America.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
So it's part of you.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Know, you know about drill, baby drill.

Speaker 5 (08:59):
Now we want to mine mine for our resources as well,
so we're not dependent on our enemies for these resources,
just like in the nineteen seventies and eighties we were
dependent on OPEC for our oil. We want to be independent.
And so this is a great plan by President Trump
and it's it's time.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
To get mining again.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
So I have another question, and that is the tariffs.
I mean, there's been some mixed reviews. Some people think
that it's creating some new revenue to the United States
we haven't seen before. It's creating different decisions on onshoing
manufacturing in the in the United States. But I know
that you've been skeptical of this and maybe even a critic.

(09:40):
Where do teriffs standards? We need to see this economic
recovery happen, as we want to see affordability felt by Americans.
What's the role of tariffs? Is it neutral, is it bad?
Is it good?

Speaker 6 (09:52):
Well, you know, that's a complicated question that.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
I will simply say this that you know, I'm not
a huge of terrists. I'm a free trade guy. In
Paris are taxes and I don't like terrasts, I mean taxes.
But on the other hand, uh, that's why we have economists, right,
because they have two hands, So I have someone on that.
But uh, you know, on the other hand, Trump is
not a pretty good job of a very good job

(10:18):
of negotiating trade deals that have leveled the playing field
and stopped the discrimination against American made products in countries
like Japan and Korea and China and many of the
European countries.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
And and so we're.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
Getting free, hopefully freer anser or trade from Trump. Now,
you know, the steel terrasts and a lumin terraces. I'm
not a big fan of those. But look, we've got
a booming economy right now. Inflation is low and coming down,
so so far at least, there hasn't been a you know,
a real negative, a negative reaction to these to these terrorists.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
But it's the perception among some people Steve. The tariffs
are causing the inflation, and that's where some people are
concerned about affordability, questions like that, could the two of
them be tied together? Do you think a little bit?

Speaker 5 (11:10):
So you know, I'll give you a perfect example. You know,
what is one of the things that's gone up most
in price in the last year.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Coffee?

Speaker 5 (11:17):
Yeah, and why is that?

Speaker 7 (11:19):
Well?

Speaker 5 (11:19):
Gee, we put we put uh terrifts on coffee beans
that come in from Columbia and Brazil. And we import
coffee from Columbia and Brazil because they make really good
coffee beans there. And so what happened when we put
those terrorists on.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Sky?

Speaker 5 (11:38):
You know, isn't that funny how that works? So, uh
you know the we put we put import terrafts on beef.
Have you been to the grocery store, lads?

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Oh yeah, oh yeah wow.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
So you know, taxes get passed on to the consumer. Now,
on the other hand, look at the big beautiful tax bill,
look at the deregulation, look at the soh energy drill,
baby drill. That's lower prices. And so that's why you
haven't seen you've actually seen prices come down from when
Biden came in office.

Speaker 8 (12:10):
I mean, not.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
Prices, but the inflation rate has come down and we're
we're headed to the two percent target. And my friend
deck Kevin Walsh will now be heading the Federal Reserve Board.
He is an absolutely fantastic choice. He will keep the
dollars strong and stable, and so I'm very bullish on
where we're headed in the rest of twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
So in your Newslatyer this morning, you show a Fox
poll that shows that the generic ballot has Democrats feeling
pretty good about themselves. It looks like they're really dominating
the Republicans. I'm confused, Steve, because I've seen polls that surprisingly,
it looks like the enforcement of immigration laws is widely
supported and is not something that people are against. Voter
id is like eighty three percent of Americans think that

(12:53):
you ought to have an idea when you vote. There's
a Today, CNN's Harry Enton said that MAGA as a
political movement is growth from two years ago. It has
a higher percentage identifying as maggot today. With all of
those those kinds of polls coming out, how does the
generic ballot suggest that Democrats are going to be successful
over Republicans in the midterms.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
People are frustrated about People are very frustrated about prices
and thebas of things like health, current housing, and by
the way, those are the things that have been rising
in price long before Trump came in. But he's getting
blamed for that. And then look, I think the deportations.
You know, the first nine months of Trump's policies were fantastic.

(13:37):
We secured the border, we got rid of the criminal aliens.
But you know, when they started raiding home depots and
farms and so on people and deporting people are working,
that's not something the American people support. And so I
think Trump made you know, the Trump administration made a
mistake there, and now they're getting back to just making
sure that you know, look, Biden brought in eight million

(13:59):
illegal Yeah, so you know, it's taken a long time
to get the adjustment to time. Let's get back to
making sure that, you know, people come into the country
are legal. And I'm very pro legal immigration, and let's
make sure that you know, any criminal alien is deported
from the country. And that's what Tom Holman did, and
I think that's what we should get back to.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Steve. I know you said several months ago where people
were saying they're very concerned about the economy, and you
kept on saying, hey, wait till the big beautiful bill
kicks in, wait until maybe the end of the second quarter,
to see if, in fact it is headed in the
right direction. Are you seeing signs now, Steve saying, yeah,
this is going the way we always said it would go.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
Yeah, I mean the economy, we don't know that.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
I did not hear it. That didn't I didn't. I
heard no vimen vigor in that answer.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
Yeah, No, four and a half percent growth for the
fourth quarter. We're off to a good start this quarter.
I mean, it is a good economy and uh. And
one of the problems is that, you know, the jobs
are out there. The problem is we've but we've got
a whole generation of kids that went to these liberal
arts schools and got degrees and ethnic studies or you know, philosophy,
and that's not what employers want these days. They want

(15:10):
kids who know how to do something. So we've got
to really reorient our whole education system to make sure
that as we move into the robotics and AI revolution,
that our kids are prepared for that.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Steve Moore joining us on our any our newsmaker line
talking about the economy and where things are going. And
he's right, Greg, Utah, Wyoming Mountain, America has an abundance
of those essential critical minerals if we can just get
at them.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, it's you know, it's I'm feeling good. I mean
that generic ballot. I think generic ballots are generic. It
seems so easy to say, would vote for a Democrat
if you don't know who they are. I don't know.
I'm not happy with Republicans in Congress right now. They
talk about Trump, not they don't talk to the American people,
and that's going to be a problem for them. But
compare to what, there's not a Democrat out there that's

(16:02):
done a thing that would they can outpace even a
do nothing Republican Congress. I mean, it's like the it's
it's a it's not a it's not a hard and
it's not a good comparison. But I wouldn't leave the
Republicans for whatever the Democrats have done.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, all right, more coming up. It is the Thursday
edition of The Rod and Greg Show and Talk Radio
one oh five nine. Kay Ana, I, your child attends
a middle school here in Salt Lake City, ask them
if they staged a protest against ICE today. All over
social media this afternoon, Greg is kids walking out of school,
protesting ICE, throwing things at passing vehicles.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
I'm marching rights.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
As a matter of fact, one truck with the American
flag on it stopped. I bet the guy almost got
out of the car. Marching through stores, breaking school bus windows.
That's what's going on in Utah today.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, I've said this, but I'm just not built for
this time. Like, I just don't throwing things at cars,
destroying the things that they're going into these stores, and
they're damning inside the store that the things inside. It's
just it's insanity. I just I don't know what I
would do. Especially you can't touch a minor, You can't
touch any of these kids. So what do you do?

Speaker 9 (17:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, yeah yeah, especially got that watch it was big. Yeah, yeah,
I want to be messing with that. But the question
is who's responsible? There's so many is at the school
for letting them out during the day. Teacher, they are
they responsible the damage that's been caused by these kids.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
I want to know. Remember that there was a mom
up in Auburn, Washington, and her kid walked down. She
walked into that school, went right to the office that
I want my kid out of this school. Now we're
transferring elsewhere. That's right if you endorse this kind of interesting.
All right, A lot of action up on the hill.
You were up there again today doing what you do.
I don't know what you do.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
A new proposed crime. You know I'm on the side
of angels. If you're wonder and that's what I do.
I fight the bad guy every day. I bet you
do well. A new bill. Proposed bill would restructure and
create new criminal offenses related to adult or added performances
and materials, particularly when miners are involved. What is this

(18:06):
bill all about? Joining us on the program. One of
my favorite representatives from the Liberty Land, Washington County, Representative
Colon Jack is joining us on the program. Representative. Welcome
to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Thank you, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Now, I don't I want to just tell our listeners
you are you work for You're an engineer, right, that's correct, Okay,
and he works in energy. He knows energy like you
can't believe. Now, this bill isn't about energy, but if
you want to know about how we're going to find
how we're going to power this state. This man knows
it all. He's been asked by the government, by the

(18:42):
US government way back when to actually build power plants
in other countries. This is how smart this man is.
But you've got an issue down there in Washington County.
You got a lot of cross dressing going on in
drag shows happening. I know you've been staring at this
for a while. Tell us about your bill, Representative.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yes, well, thank you. So bill is HP and really
it's a follow up to a bill that we had
two years ago in which we tightened up the language
on ludeness in front of miners. So, just to clarify
for everyone, ludiness in front of adults is still legal.

(19:22):
So if you're in a controlled environment and you enjoy
your ludeness, then we're not going to get into.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Good thing. Thank you for clarifying that, because I was
just going.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
What was really worried about that we.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Want loudness amongst all adults. Representative, what are you talking about? Good?
Good clarification.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Sorry, so yeah, sorry, I but so two years ago
we had this bill to tighten up ludness in front
of miners. Uh, And so that passed. But then, as
as you may remember, I brought this bill two years
ago because because of our you know, of the of

(20:06):
the shows that had been going on in Saint George.
But after after we had been working on it in
Saint George, all across the state people were sending me.
Because I became the legislator dealing with this, they started
sending me photos and videos of all kinds of ud
stuff happening all over the state, which is a whole

(20:29):
bunch of stuff that I didn't need to see. But
after we passed the ludiness bill for another year, I
kept getting messages of videos and photos, and so I
went to the Commission on Criminal and Juvenile Justice CCJJ,
and I said, what are we lacking? Why am I

(20:52):
still getting these Why aren't we enforcing the law? And
they and they said reasonably that well, probably just hasn't
been trained enough. So they said we will commit to
do training. And I said, that's great. I said, also,
would you please commit to me to tell me what
do we lack to provide clarity in the law so

(21:14):
that what is in law can be enforced. And last
summer they came to me and said after they had
done the training, they had gotten feedback that what's in
code is a little confusing because the second section of
code is pornographic materials, printed pornography or even pornographic performances,

(21:38):
and mixed in was lowteness and lutiness performances. And they
said it would be handy if we could separate those
into two separate sections of code. So think about one
mixed up paragraph and now making two more clear paragraphs.
And so that's what this bill does, is to allow

(22:00):
how law enforcement and are prosecuting attorneys and district attorneys
to have these two sections separated. So as they're deciding
how does this apply in any particular case, they're not
trying to parse out what was this pornographic?

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Was it lude?

Speaker 3 (22:20):
And audiflies to what?

Speaker 2 (22:22):
So representative Jack. This basically says, if you have a
drag show and there are kids going to be in
the audience, it can be stopped or it could be
a violation of the law. Is that putting it as
simply as you can?

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Well, almost, but not quite because drag, which is right
the acronym for dressing as a girl, is not inherently lude.
So if they don't cross the border into lude, then
they could do drag and this bill doesn't apply to them.

(22:57):
But if it crosses over the border into whether it's
drag or a woman dressed as a woman or a
man dressed as a man, if it goes into lewdness,
then it and in the presence of a child, then.

Speaker 10 (23:11):
It is illegal.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
It was already illegal, but now it's clearer because it's
now separated out from pornography, which was already illegal, especially
in the presence and with the or incorporation of a child,
but this separates that. So even though we had a
big protest here on the Capitol earlier this week that

(23:37):
these these uh, these penalties are not new, they're just
clarified by separating lewdness from pornography. But yes, either of
those in the presence of a child is a crime,
but it already was.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
I you you know you've fought hard on this bill.
There's a lot of people that were trying to shut
you down just by using legal ease and things like that.
Where is this bill in the process and what do
you give it by way of chances of passing? It
seems so intuitive, but I've seen things like this get
slowed down. How do you feel about the bill and
where is it and how do you feel about it?

Speaker 9 (24:12):
Well, so.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
I have you know, we've drafted the bill and we
now have it out of the Rules Committee into Subject
Matter Committee, so it should be heard next week and
then we'll take it to the floor of the House.
So you know, next week is week four, so we're
like it halfway through. But I like where we're at.

(24:37):
I think I think we have time to get this
bill all the way across the finish line.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Let's see what happens. Representative thank you very much for
joining us.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yes, you're very welcome anytime.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Let me know, all right, just good work Representative Cole
and Jack joining us on our any hour news maker
line here on talk Radio one oh five nine can arrest.
He promised the American people a lot of things. Do
something about ill legal immigration, crack down on crime, get
the economy going, and reducing the size of government. Now
he did so with Doze and Joe. Doze was partially successful,

(25:09):
but he's got a big battle face there. But now Greg,
he is making it easier to fire federal workers. Democrats
won't be happy with this one. The administration is planning
on making it easier to discipline and potentially fire career
officials in senior positions across government, a move that would
affect roughly fifty thousand federal workers because they're protected. Now,

(25:33):
it's difficult to fire federal workers, but Donald Trump is
trying to make it easier.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
I just think you have to have some accountability. I
think if people think they're immune from anything, they're they're
going to act like that there's no accountability. They'll just
they're on their own. You can't get fired, you think
you're protected. It's like these university professors with their tenure,
they got to literally commit a crime to lose their job.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Probably get off on that.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, they don't have to be good at their job
because they're tenured. They can be lousy. But you yeah,
so I think that I think accountability is a good thing.
I have always believed that. Well, you know, I think
I'm like you, and we don't like.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
See anybody lose their job. No, we're losing their job.
But if you're working on the taxpayer dying, which these
federal government employees are doing, you need to be held accountable.
And I think you need to prove that you're saying
you're doing something to benefit the country.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
We've had people that work for I R S that
call into our show for listeners. I have no fear
that the listeners of this show, who happen to be
federal employees, would excel in an environment like that. Surely
make it, you make accountability part of it. Our listeners
would do very well in that arena. It's the it's
the it's the dead weight in the deadwood. You can't
get rid of sitting in front of you. That Really,
I think if you don't have accountability like that, it

(26:47):
becomes a disincentive.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Would they would accept the challenge?

Speaker 1 (26:50):
I know they, we just don't. What's our listeners out
at all?

Speaker 2 (26:55):
I think that would be great. All right, we've got
another hour, our number two of the rod A great
coming you away right here on Utahn's Talk Radio one
all five nine. Canna stay with us? Well, speaking of
a conversation, there was a protest down at UVU yesterday.

(27:16):
It was a job fair down there. You had some
students line up along the I guess way into the
gym or wherever they were holding this thing and included
in people offering jobs. Are there to talk about jobs?
Was border patrol? Okay?

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (27:33):
And the students didn't like that. Nope, so they held
a protest, peaceful protests, but they were protesting. Then today
again there's another job fair at BYU's. This time of year,
kids are getting ready to the seniors leave school graduate
looking for jobs. They had another one and there was
a protest again today, Okay, feeling that the job that

(27:53):
Border Patrol is trying to do goes against the values
of BYU. Yes, I guess BYU is four you know losses, yes, yeah, yeah.
Then we have this happening today and this is all
over social media this afternoon. Students at middle schools throughout
the Salt Lake City area and they don't identify the
school as greg but they walked out today and protest

(28:16):
device They threw some students through things at passing cars,
and we have video of a white truck carrying a
white truck carrying an American flag getting hit and stopping
for a minute. I'm surprised the guy didn't get out
and go after those kids, chanting things, marching through stores
and disrupting business in that starts, chant and vandalizing the stories,

(28:40):
breaking bus windows. Those are the reports we're getting today
on social media. My question is greg who's doing this?
Are these teachers, Are these administrators who's letting him do it?
Is a question I have.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Well, I'll tell you when you get to a middle
school age, these these teachers and administrators let these kids
leave because they you don't. It's a closed campus. You
don't just walk in and out of school anytime you want.
It's a closed campus. It's controlled. It's told. Parents are
told the place your child goes to school is safe,
safe from anyone coming inside, safe from anyone that may
be already inside. We're told that our schools are safe.

(29:17):
The conduct that happened in these middle schools where these
kids were allowed to leave the school en mass and
then vandalize automobiles, vandalize inside of schools, they are allowing
it to happen. I would argue they are responsible for
it because again, parents send their kids to those schools
and are told, this is a closed campus. Of what
you're you can expect your kids to be safe. So
are who's if something happens one of these kids they're

(29:39):
throwing rocks at these at these trucks. Let's say an
accident happens, Who's responsible for the safety or welfare of
the students that they've let walk everywhere in stores, all
over the streets, blocking traffic, and then to the damage
that's been done. Is it the school it's going to
pay for that? Is it the parents of the kids
that got let out of school by the administrators? Who's
responsible for the damage. Who's your responsible for the safety

(30:00):
and welfare of those kids while they're supposed to be
in school? I think it. I think it's the school.
I think they absolutely let these kids do this. Well,
I want to go back to a more basic question.
Who's giving them the information that ice is bad? I
think it's in their schools. I think there's are leftist
training grounds right now. Really absolutely? Or why would they?
Why would they just let all these kids walk out?

(30:22):
This is not being done against the will of the
administrators or the school or the teachers. It's not. I mean,
and this thing has like a mob mental You get
a few going and then everyone sees everybody's going. No
one's stopping them. They just keep growing. They could put
that they would for any Let's put it this way,
if the topic was pro life, if the topic was
pro guns, if the topic was anything other than the

(30:45):
left of center worldview, you would not see these kids
be able to leave.

Speaker 11 (30:49):
You do this.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
That's a very good point. I didn't even think about that.
What if you had a group of students go to
an administrator and say, we'd like to stage because let's
say it's January twentieth. Okay, wait, we want to do
a demonstration. We want to all walk out of school
in favor of the pro life movement.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Do you think they get away with that?

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Absolutely not, not for one second. All of a sudden,
you'd find they have an incredible control over the hallways
and the classrooms and the ingress egress of their of
their building. You would find they were amazingly that they'd
be able to handle all those things. Because again, we
have school safety being ramped up in schools and you
tough for obvious reasons. Those schools should be more secure

(31:28):
today than ever before. When they walk out like that,
they are being allowed to walk out like that, and
that is not open to any cause or any reason
for on any day they are allowing them to do it.
I think that district and that school are responsible for
the If any of those kids get hurt, they're responsible.
And if I'm a parent, I'm taking my kid out
of that school because they obviously are. They're going to say,

(31:50):
not us, we're not responsible for anything. Well if you're not,
and I'm sending my kid into your school, and you're
just throwing your hands up, going I don't know what
they do. They're medal school kids, they can do whatever
they want, Well, then I'm not going. I'm not sending
my kid there all day with that kind of you know,
no supervision or just supervision when you want it. It's insane.
As far as these college kids go that are protesting,
I just would love for all these little protesters, these

(32:12):
little you know, down with the struggle, you know, little wannabes,
give us your name and the address and the place
you live and let us please. We'll put it on
a website and we'll let every illegal immigrant know that
ICE is looking for and the and the criminals on
that list is a mile long. We'll let them know
that you want to help them, you want them to
come into your house. You'll help feed them, you'll take

(32:33):
care of them because you think it's mean that the
federal law and immigration law is being enforced. Let's see
how long they're down for the struggle. If all these
people that were to come to their homes, because these
are criminals are after here.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Bring them in.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
See how you feel.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah, give them their name, come on, give your address,
say hey, come on.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Over, just virtue signal, be real, bring them all in.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
That's what Schumer and Jefferies want with the new deal
on the on DAHS funding. Yeah, it's basically they come
up with a list of demands and one of them
is mask off. We want their addresses.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah, the of the federal law enforcementtions. Well, I want
the addresses of the protesters so we can direct all
criminal illegals that they feel so sorry for and think
they're being mistreated, to go to their houses and hang
out with them. Let them take care of them because
they're bleeding hearts. They feel so badly for them. They
think Ice is the bad guy. Will go over to
their go to the protester's house.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
I would love to talk to a group of these
kids and these middle schools. They don't identify what the
schools are today, at least I haven't seen it. They
just say middle schools in the Salt Lake City area,
so I'm not sure where they are. I would love
to sit down and ask those kids what do you
know about ice? What do you think? What are they
doing if they really understand what this is all about.
Get that they could chant the slogans down with ice,

(33:47):
out with ice, but probably that's about it.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, I think it's I don't think. I don't expect,
I should say, kids of that age to have a
deep understanding of the world around them.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I don't know, because they're.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Kids, and they should be kids, and they ought to
be innocently kids. They shouldn't even be dealing with that.
I think you got parents that use them as props.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Frankly, we want to hear from you as a parent,
to hear this. Maybe your child's been involved in this.
Eighty eight eight five seven o eight zero one zero,
or you can leave us a coming on the talkback
line by downloading the iHeartRadio up. Before we break, let's
get to one of our phones. Let's lea.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Let's go to Roger from Ogden. Roger, thank you for
calling into the Rodding Grigg Show.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Hey, I just wanted to share this with your reinforce
what you were talking about on the radio. I live
in the northeast bench of Ogden, and yesterday we saw
a school bus full length school bus stop there at
the ninth and Harrison above benlum In High School, and
they probably close to one hundred kids out and they

(34:47):
were all walking in mass up the street. There weren't
any signs or weren't any flags or anything like that.
But I thought, you know, why are they letting them
off here? And they were walking up the hi Uh
there was protests, the information there was protests of Seventh

(35:08):
Street in Monroe, which is just the other side of
Ben Almond High School, and there was signed protests, signs
and whatnot going on down there. Appeared to be you know,
Junior High. I couldn't really tell, but I think, who
in the world is support in this if they're using

(35:30):
you know, school school buses to transport these kids around
to trans to protest.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
You know, that's not a rhetorical question for me. I
want to literally know the name of the individual I
really do. I'm going to reach out to a blom Mixers.
I think they should find out the literal names of
the people who allowed this to happen. The school bus,
the doors they threw wide open for these kids to
walk around and destroy inside of stores and throw things
at cars. Who allowed it. There's names, it doesn't happen magically.

(35:59):
There are people responsible, and I think this ought to
be drilled down and not stop until you get to
the exact people who made these decisions about these kids.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
We've got some other thoughts on this and a lot
of people calling in on this, and we'll get to
your calls coming up on the Rodding Gregg Show in
Utah's talk radio one O five nine k n RS
live everywhere on the iheartradiop make sure you downloaded today.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
B y U and U VU where they somehow think
that the job fair should not include federal law enforcement,
where people were looking to recruit for those jobs. So
we want to talk to you, our great listeners. What
do you have to say about this. Let's get right
to the phones and let's go to Dennis who's in Mapleton. Dennis,
thank you for holding and welcome to the Rod and
Greg Show.

Speaker 10 (36:41):
Yeah, thanks for letting me speak my piece for a second.
My son was in his school high school today and
drove by one of these protests and they threw something
at his truck.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (36:58):
So he got stopped, got out and confronted them and said,
who did this?

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Why?

Speaker 10 (37:05):
Why would you do this? What did we do to you?
And then it turned into a brawl and he got assaulted.
And I'm thinking to myself, what what like you said, Greg,

(37:26):
who's responsible for this kind of action? This is not normal.
This is not normal. My dad told me when I
was a kid, and your dad told you, I'm sure
when you were a kid, when the police come or
when someone comes, just stand back. Yeah, take your beat

(37:46):
and take your you know, just just don't don't be aggressive,
and there will be no issues. And these kids are
being indoctrinated by people that are saying, oh yeah, we
hate the.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Police and are committing crimes fault.

Speaker 10 (38:06):
It's not ice as fault.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
It's a battery, it's assault. It's a crime to do.
What's happened to your son? When your son is assaulted
like that, that is an assault. That is again another crime.
I mean, those are crimes are being committed. I want
to get right to the people responsible that enabled and
allowed that to happen. I think that those ought to
be specific people to talk.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Let's go to one of our talkback lines. We'll get
to other colleges, but here's a comment on our talkback line.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Rod Braid. I've heard about this happening in other students
another places in the country. When the people are actually
encouraging this behavior with their students, if the parents part
of that this is happening, the parents should see the school,
the teachers, the school boards, everybody, because they are endangering

(38:57):
the students.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Not only endangering students, but in some ages, dangering people
or just driving down the road. Let's go back to
the phones. Let's talk with Ben in West Valley tonight
here on the rod In Greg, Joe, Ben, how are you?
Thanks so much for joining us.

Speaker 12 (39:11):
Oh, thank you for the opportunity.

Speaker 10 (39:12):
Rodin Greg.

Speaker 12 (39:14):
I had an interesting conversation with my daughter on Monday.
One of the middle school junior highs that walked out
was my daughter's school, and she asked me on Monday
if she walked out, would would it be okay? And
I says, well, why are you walking out? And she says, well,
I want to protest ICE. And I'm like, okay, what

(39:37):
about ice? Are you protesting about? And she said I
don't know. Yeah, So I said, until you're like you
can walk out, but you've got to give me a reason,
because you know, I want my kids to understand, you know,
free speech and things, and she still couldn't tell me,
and so I had to and so me, as a
good parent, hopefully, you know, try to explain what ice

(39:59):
is and try to understand, try to help her understand
about immigration and you know what what's illegal and what's
not illegal and things. And even when she asked me
again last night if she could still and I says,
you have a reason, and she said no, and I says, well, no,
you're not walking out, so you're asking. It's like, yeah,
I think part of it is is teachers in doctrining

(40:22):
these things. But you'd be surprised on social media platforms,
whether it's YouTube, whether it's Instagram or whatever, these kids
are using how much information that is getting in between
you know what, parents, the schools and things, and so
you know it. It is really scary. And luckily for

(40:46):
me and my wife, we have open conversations with our kids,
but we're also involved with our schools. We know the principles,
we know their teachers were involved in school community councils
and if and and we all with these open conversations
we have with our kids, Like with my daughter, I says,
who's bringing this up? She said it was our friends.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
If it was a.

Speaker 12 (41:07):
Teacher, I would be like, okay, I would go to
the teachers. So you know, I think a lot of
parents need to be involved in this as well.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yeah, good, good point.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
Ben.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
It sounds like you're involved in that, and I think
I wonder, you know, we've got to get some other calls.
I wonder if her daughter change, if his daughter changed
her mind after he had a discussion with her about us.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Maybe just I don't even think kids that age can
I don't think they should even have to worry about
things like this right now. But I want to know
if there was we didn't ask him, if there's violence
that strikes that came that broke out, because I'm watching
a lot of it on the video on social media
right now. Violence I mean or in destruction of this
truck that was harmed or put a big brick at it.
You got them walking through a store knocking things over.

(41:49):
Does is that having we're are the police? I see
no police any where these kids are doing this and
behaving this way.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Here's another comment on our talk pack line.

Speaker 6 (41:58):
These schools are earned by school district boards and there
needs to be a cold blown investigation by the school
board everywhere this is going on.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's parents. You have a right
to know. If you're upset by this, go to the principle,
go to the administration. How did you let this happen.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
I'll tell you what, Honestly, I'd fire every administrator, teacher,
staffer who allowed this to happen, who empowered this. I'm
telling you that these schools are closed campuses. There's no
getting in and out like this unless they let these
kids do it. And in fact, if you listen to Ben,
he said they were talking about it on Monday. You're
telling me the schools didn't know this was going to happen.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
They knew.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
I'm telling you they should be responsible for this. And
if I'm really smart, I tell the Trump administration I
wouldn't give a dime of federal funds to that to
this school district until there's accountability for the administrators that
let these kids put themselves in harms.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Way, all right, we've got a lot of callers, we
got a lot of comments on our talk back line.
We'll take a break and come with more of your
thoughts right here on the Rod and Greg Show and
Utah's Talk Radio One Oh five nine key nur right.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
That patient listeners waiting on the line. Let's go to
Brian and Tuilla. Brian, thank you for holding and welcome
to the Rod and Gregg Show.

Speaker 10 (43:10):
Yes, hi, Rod and Greg.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
How are you today?

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Right?

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Well, thank you?

Speaker 7 (43:13):
I enjoy your topic. Yeah, I enjoy your topic. My
daughter came home yesterday from a school here in Tuila County,
a middle school, and mentioned that she had friends or
also other students she knew who were protesting. But she
had mentioned it, a lot of the parents had checked
out their the kids that she knew or excused them

(43:34):
to kind of do that. So I think it's a
multifaceted not just maybe administrators and teachers who kind of
encourage her influence, but definitely parents. Other college mentioned social
media as well, or friends, So I think it's a
it's a very multifaceted thing where these influence comes from.
And as far as Greg's comment of close campuses, I
wanted to mention real quick, like, at least my daughter's

(43:57):
school and most of the schools I've ever been to
or known here, they have multi out buildings are relocatable,
so a close campus it's easy just to walk away too.
Between classes, so it's not as closed as you'd take.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Don't tell the states that there's zillions of dollars for
school safety. They've been told the total opposite of that, Brian.
But back to this topic though, I'm kidding, but not really.
They have done that, Brian. Have you seen any violence?
So I'm watching video right here where these students are
are throwing large like bricks at cars. They're knocking things
over inside of stores. Are you seeing violence in Tuila

(44:31):
where you're seeing these walkouts happen?

Speaker 7 (44:35):
No, move from what my daughter mentioned, she didn't see
any violence. I didn't personally see it that. It comes
from my daughter, the middle schooler, but she didn't see
any violence. Just does the other classmates and students she
knew who were out there protesting.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
All right, Brian, thank you. It's interesting Brian said parents
were letting the kids out, and that is possible.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Then if something happens, it's on them. I think that
there needs to be right down to the human being
that said yet let them do this, whether it be
a parent, administrator, teacher, I think we should know.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
All right, more calls coming up. Let's go back to
our talk back line as well, and hear from some
of our listeners on this topic.

Speaker 13 (45:10):
Hey guys, I'm gonna throw down the gauntlet here and
make a challenge to ken Ris. You can find out
which schools they are. You've got a newsroom. You can
find out who's responsible, to principal, to superintendent of the
school district, whoever, because whether they knew about it or not,
it happened on their watch and it's borderline criminal. They're

(45:34):
glad it's not my kids, and my kid wasn't there
because I would be reading somebody of the rite apt.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
And we can find out, and we will find out.
There are ways to find out, that's for sure. Here's
another comment.

Speaker 14 (45:47):
Hey're out and Greg guy listen every night on my
way home from work. I love you guys, love listening
to the talk radio. You guys are doing a great job.
I just wanted to chime in. Today I found out
that my ex wife checked out my fifteen year old
daughter and allowed her to attend a anti ice protest. Obviously,
there's substantial differences in our political views between my ex

(46:09):
and I, but she's grooming my daughter to be just
like her.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Thanks for everything, Thank you for that coming Well, I'll
tell you what and if that's the case, We've now
heard from two that say that that parents are involved
in this, Well, if it's involved in the things I'm
seeing that happening with these students and the choices they're making,
those parents should be held legally liable for the damage
that they are doing.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Your calls, your comments coming up. Let's go back to
the phones. Smithfield, We're talking with Aaron tonight on the
rod In Greg Show. Hey erin, how are you?

Speaker 6 (46:38):
How are you doing, gentlemen? Well, as a past school
board as a past school board director and a candidate
for a future school board director in KYSH County. As
a school board director, I would be calling first my
school district attorney. Second it would be the board president.
I would have an executive's committing meeting, and I would

(46:59):
be firing immediately the superintendent and any principles four cause
for child endangerment and this idea of signing your kid
out that is an unexcused absence. There is no such
thing as signing your kid out of school to go protest.
So if I'm a parent, I'm not wasting my time
calling a superintendent. I'm not wasting my time calling a principal.

(47:20):
I'm calling the school board director. And if I go
to my next school board director meeting and there isn't
an apology at that meeting and an explanation of what
you're doing to address those issues, there's an election in November.
Every one of those school board directors are getting voted
out office.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Well, I hate that's well said, well said.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Good job, thank you, good points to me. You know,
I go back to what I was saying earlier, Greg,
This comes at a time when our students and their
test scores are down.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Forty eight percent of kids, yeah, K through fourth grade
do not read it at grade level. And once you
hit third grade, if you're not reading at grade level,
you are you need an individual education plan. You're in
special ed because or should be, because you have to
read to learn, and you're now inherently behind the curve.
You're not going to be able to read the learn
if you're not reading by third grade. Forty eight percent

(48:12):
of all of Utah population K through four is in
that situation. Parent administrators and teachers don't let these kids
leave the school. Go teach them, make sure they understand.
I mean, that's what you're there for. And I just
it blows my mind that as much as many schools
as we're seeing here are letting these kids out go
out and then in dangerous situations, it turns out.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Well, think about this, Greg, What if one of these
students and they are walking on the sidewalks, but some
of them apparently are walking on the bus lanes, what
a point of them got accidentally hit by a vehicle,
someone just swerved accidentally, or something happened. What happens then.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Well, it's a good question, and it's not far. I'm
watching them block traffic as they're marching around. I'm watching
them act in ways that are dangerous. So your your
question isn't out of the realm of possibility. In fact,
it could have happened for all we know. But I
think the who's responsible is is the school that they're
supposed to be attending. If you're kids at a school,
do you worry every minute that whow? I wonder if

(49:05):
they've escaped. I wonder if they're running through a store
right now, tipping over, you know, aisles of food or
whatever they're doing. I wonder if they're throwing bricks at trucks.
Do you don't think that because they're at the school.
If I want to get I mean, you have to
have excuses and ways to get in with ID. It's
a secure place you're supposed to be, not a place
where this kind of chaos is going on with that
age of kids.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Come on, middle schoolers. Yeah, all right, more your calls,
more of your comments coming up on our talk back
line or eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero,
give us call. We'll take your thoughts on this tonight.
Middle school students protesting ICE today at several middle schools
up and down the Wassatz Front. We had some instances
where people were throwing things at cars, marching through stores,

(49:48):
disrupting businesses. We had one report of breaking bus windows.
Let's see what do you say on this. We go
back to the phones and talk with Pam in Pleasant Growth. Pam,
how are you welcome to the show?

Speaker 5 (50:00):
Hi?

Speaker 15 (50:00):
I just have a comment. I live here in Pleasant
Grove and down my main street that I live on March,
these little junior high kids with American flags, swearing, slipping
us off, have police escort, and I want to know
why the community was not notified. I didn't even know
what was going on till I read their signs. I

(50:23):
had to call the school who informed me. And I'm
curious at our community for not notifying us.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Pam, did you say they had a police escort? So
police were there, but they were helping facilitate this.

Speaker 15 (50:35):
Please? Can you believe that the Pleasant Growth police were
following them to protect them while they're in the street.

Speaker 11 (50:43):
Yelling at the.

Speaker 15 (50:44):
Rest of us, who are obviously not for the police.
And I want to know right in front of my house,
I have a picture of the police. I was in
my home, and I want to know why we as
a community were not protected to know that this was
going down.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yeah, good point, good point. And E Ray was just
telling me, was that all said? Hill Hill Christ High School?
What were they district.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
That Pam said she was It was from the Utah County.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Yeah, Utah County. What a Pleasant Grove?

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Pleasant Grove? Yeah, no, I we I'm going to pursue.
We're going to get some answers for you folks, because
I I'm going to tell you this isn't a past
the buck moment. It is insane to me that that
age of kid, these children are allowed to walk out there,
disrupt traffic, disrupt communities, fement they're they're being violent. Uh
and then you to tell me because the videos I've seen,

(51:35):
I haven't seen any police, but in some of the
areas of the state there were police escorting this type
of conduct. Give me a break, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Yeah, you know. Another thing we talked about during the
show was what's going on at b YU and u
VU protests against ICE today at b YU. Here's a
comment on our talk back line, Rod.

Speaker 16 (51:55):
Greg, I just listen to you, ses me like these
BYU lums and staff members need to brush up on
their articles of faith, particularly the twelve you know, being
as it talks about being subject to King's President's rulers, magistrates,
their being and honoring and sustaining the law.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Imagine that which includes the border.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Weird, Yeah, weird, You're right, good point. It is the border,
and what the President and Border Patrol and ICE are
trying to do is make this country safe by controlling
our border.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
If those BYU faculty alum, whoever they are, if they
don't like what the law, the immigration laws are being enforced,
then those laws ought to be changed. But until then,
they're enforcing the law.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
And if you want to blame anybody for this, the
ten million people, twenty million people who came in here illegally.
Don't blame Donald Trump, don't blame I, don't blame Border patrol.
Blame the Democrats. Yes, because they knew what was going on.
They even admit now, Greg that they realize it was
a mess and it got carried away from it.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
They say that now, But it was a planned planned.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
So if you want to get mad at somebody, get
mad at Joe Biden, get mad at Kambala Harris, get
and mad at may Orchis, that's right. You want to
get mad at somebody, that's what you get, and that's
the border.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
I want to know just I'm going to flip right back.
I know we're coming to her break of all these
schools that did this on the same day, who coordinated this?
Is this inside of our state school board? Is this
an outside group that got all the schools to participate
at the same time? How was this even coordinated? What
happened today?

Speaker 2 (53:31):
All right, hour number three of the Rod and Greg Show,
it's coming up, Stay with us.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
I really do appreciate the talkback live calls or talkback
calls that we got or comments, and also our callers
A lot of actually on the scene eyewitness accounts from
our listeners. I think that's really good for all of
us to hear, not just seeing it reported. But you
made a good comment during the break our local news. Surprise, surprise,
we're not any coverage, any local coverage. But I'm seeing

(54:00):
nationally uh X accounts that have like two million plus people.
They're covering this, They're covering the video of it. I'm
seeing it everywhere, but you go to the local newscast
and we're not seeing it.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Well, see Andy Nogu And I don't know how many
of you know who Andy is. He's been unbelievable in
his reporting on Antifa. Matter of fact, he was attacked
they poured liquid cement on his face up in Portland
several years ago. He's reporting this today, but you don't
see any coverage locally tonight.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Kind of interesting, I would hope we would like I
can't scroll without finding this guy getting his truck getting
hit with his breath, and then they're showing them in
these stores that are break, you know, pushing things over
and damaging the store inside. It's again, I just want
to reverse engineer this, and I'm going to tell you

(54:46):
I'm going to ask those that can find out how
did this happen and who coordinated all these schools at
the same time. It's even Pleasant Grove youth, Are you kidding?

Speaker 2 (54:56):
North aug Pleasant Grove really doesn't grove you down in
Utah County?

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Really? All right? Remember remember the Jesse Slett a Smolette
I think it was Jesse Smolette story in Chicago years
ago turned out to be a hoax.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Yeah, those Maga in Chicago at two and the more
three in the morning, wearing Maga hats accosting him at
a subway shoppers.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Now, I'm seeing video of the protests, but it's at BYU.
It's not the high school way. You had a nice
protest today.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
There you go, that's the breaking news.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
That's the one you want. Well, let's get to this
hoax story. There is another one out there, a white
Texas student's life turned upside down by a hate hoax
perpetrated by a black acquaintance's mother. Her name is Summer
Smith and her lawyer Kim Cole. This is quite a story.
And joining us on our Newsmaker line to shed more
light on this is Andrew Kerr. He is an investigative

(55:51):
reporter with the Washington Free Beacon. He's been taking a
look into this. Andrew, thank you very much for joining
us tonight. Tell us about this latest hoax that took
place in Texas.

Speaker 11 (56:01):
Story when viral was covered by most mainstream media outlets.
Black women elected that her middle schooler was essentially tortured
at a sleepover by his supposedly white friends, saying that
they these white kids forced him to drink their own urine,

(56:21):
shot him with BB guns. A Black Lives Matter activist
group got involved, called this a racially motivated hate crime.
The NAACP dressed down the school district. Violent protests broke
out outside the home of the white child kind of
at the center of the allegations, and the mother on

(56:45):
her im mediates war was promoted to go fund the
account that he rates one hundred twenty thousand dollars to help,
you know, supposedly pay for her son's therapy and private schooling.
So and that was that was the story back then.
Fast forward to a few days ago and Texas jury

(57:05):
ruled the whole thing was a hoax. There's no racially
motivated motive here. It was it was just thirteen year
old boys being much of their own devices, being thirteen
year old boys, and the jury awarded the mother and
her attorney awarded that or ruled that they need to

(57:26):
pay three point two million dollars in damages to the
white child that they publicly speared saying that they, you know,
tarnished his future future earning potential and you know for
what they put him through in twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
One with their comments.

Speaker 11 (57:40):
So you know, it's just yet another race hooks to
kind of crumble under under scrutiny here.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
You know, the Texas judge orders them to pay three
point two million dollars in damages to the person or
people that were falsely accused. But is there three point
two million dollars to pay anyone? Is that?

Speaker 6 (58:00):
What is that?

Speaker 1 (58:00):
What does that amount represent? It does publicly say that
there's real damage, but is it even.

Speaker 11 (58:05):
Real if the family so the white boys, NA, he's
an adult, he's in his first year at college now,
his name is asher Van. Him and his family are
not expecting like this, these funds we pay back to
them at any time. Essential to the case was this
gofunding account that the mother, Summer Smith, promoted on her

(58:28):
media tour and brought it one hundred twenty thousand dollars
for the funds were supposed to be used to pay
for her son's private schooling, and account statements showed that
less less of a thousand dollars were sad for that purpose.
The rest was used to pay for the simple luxuries
or the designer dog dining and travel, beauty products, liquor, vapes,
cell phones, car payments, stuff like that. As for the

(58:52):
for the damages, Asher told me that he received, non exaggeration,
thousands of death threats throughout all this because this is.

Speaker 9 (59:00):
A national story.

Speaker 11 (59:01):
And there's a protest that on one evening that U
that arrived at his doorstep thanks to this you know,
media driven outrage where protestes through bricks at this house.
So you know, this has very real consequences for him.
And and the reality was is that, like, you know,
the allegation was that oh, they you know, and they shot,

(59:22):
you know, with with evil intent, this kid with with
beaty guns. And the reality is that all the kids
had agreed during a sleepover in the middle of of
a winter storm that hey, wouldn't it be a great
idea for us to like shoot each other with airfoft rifles,
which like if if.

Speaker 9 (59:38):
You've been.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Old boys, say no more.

Speaker 11 (59:42):
Yeah, thirteen year old boys, what's their own devices? Are
are animals? They're monsters, Like that's this is just what happened.

Speaker 7 (59:50):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
I wouldn't say an animal. I think I did this
without winter clothing on. So I think this is just
boys being boys. I don't I wouldn't even go that farce,
but I hear you.

Speaker 11 (01:00:00):
Yeah, and again it's for the allegation that they forced
the uh, the child to the drink is on urine
like that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
You know, this is not nice, this is not civilized conduct.

Speaker 11 (01:00:10):
But the real story and this was all investigated by police,
so I'm you know, I'm just quoting from you know,
the the police investigator. She gave a deposition on this
case that the the kids all agreed during the sleepover
that the first person to fall asleep like we're gonna
mess with you. And so yeah, there was you know,
p and the cup, but they just they handed the

(01:00:30):
cups of the kid and he put up his mouth,
but like w was forcing him or anything. And again
like it's just boys being boys. Like I'm sorry to
say it like that, but that's just you know, it
is what it is. There's this wasn't you know, it's
it's not good conduct, but that this notion that it
was this you know, evil racial hate crime, like you know,

(01:00:53):
these these activist groups were like calling for felony charges
against the kids and and and that's just not what
happened here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Andrew. Let me ask you this. You mentioned how much
coverage this guy in the media when the story first broke.
Has the media at all other than Washington Free Beacon
come back and said, well, it was all a hoax.
Here's the real story behind this. I bet not. But
have has there been any media out there which has
come back and said, here's the truth behind this story.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Not that I'm aware of.

Speaker 11 (01:01:22):
I think most importantly is that at the time in
twenty twenty one, when all these outlets were recovering the
mother's allegations, none of them reached out to the Astraban
the white child, and his name had been Docks, the
mother Summer Smith at Dox's name. That's how protesters knew
how to show up at his house, and none of
these outlets reached out for his side of the story,

(01:01:42):
which is just I mean, that's just media mount seasons.
If you're gonna you know, you have to get those
types of the story with these types of things.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
So what you got digital footprints that don't go away
this story? Do you what do you predict? I mean,
I think some of this is irreparable harm. I think
that it the judgment's important. The truth being put out
there is absolutely important, But does it actually change? Has
this changed? I guess my question is does this change

(01:02:10):
the trajectory of the young people's lives this sleepover where
they were boys were being boys?

Speaker 11 (01:02:17):
I mean, I think the you know, this one's a
trial and a jury ultimately ruled that you know, this
thing was a host. That's why they awarded these damages.
And so now you know, if anyone you know looks
up their names or sees this story like that, that
important context is going to be be out there. I
think for the for the mother that perpetrated his host,

(01:02:40):
the GoFundMe account may there may be some lingering issues
there where she raised funds one hundred and twenty thousand dollars. Specifically,
it's on the page I'm going to use these funds
specifically to pay for private schooling for my son and
the dollars were not used for that, so you know,
there may be some additional filings here that she could
you know, this is a civil case, but you know,

(01:03:01):
I just I would you know, I'm keeping an eye
out to see if there's any any action there like
now that the you know, the civil jury is that
she's ruling whether there could be you know, any sort
of a criminal actions here for you know, essentially you know,
raising funds fraudulently on that good fund Me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Andrew, thank you, Andrew Kerr on our any our newsmaker
line investigative reporter at the Washington Freebeacon. We've got a
whole lot more to come your way on this Thursday
edition of the Rod and Greg Show and Utah's Talk
Radio one oh five nine Kay and arrests boy. A
big announcement today, Greg, and I was so excited. It
was teased all morning long and I couldn't wait. Yes,

(01:03:37):
Kamala Harris was announcing a big had a big announcement today.
Are you exited about this?

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
I didn't hear about it. It just it just wasn't
It didn't hit my radar screen. I don't know that
she does anything big. Yeah, but what's the announcement.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Well she you know, we we everyone will guess you. Well,
is she going to announce? Is she going to change
her mind and run for governor of California? What's up?
She has changed the name of her X page.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
That's we announced it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
She's re rebranded her long dormant campaign account, Her Kamala
h Q account on X is now headquarters six seven.
Doesn't that excite you? See, I thought you'd just be
so excited about That's underwhelming.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
That's what I would call that underwhelming.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
By the way, Scott Bessett was at it again today.
He is a He's a rock star with his administration.
I love Scott Bessett, right. He had a he had
a little bit of a rumble yesterday with Maxine Waters.
He kept on answering her questions and she couldn't get
one a question wise because he'd keep on going. Well,
apparently today he had a lesson for Bogahannas Wharton on

(01:04:55):
the Warren on the affordability crisis. Listen to this exchange
before a Senate committee today, Senator.

Speaker 17 (01:05:02):
It maybe have been nuanced for you, But what President
Trump is referring to is the media saying that the
affordability crisis was generated by this administration when it was
you and President Biden who destroyed the buying power of
the American people. So there is an affordability crisis, and
you were front and center in it.

Speaker 11 (01:05:21):
So let me make sure that I understand.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Donald Trump is not saying that affordability what's happening to families.

Speaker 14 (01:05:29):
Right now as a hoax.

Speaker 17 (01:05:30):
He is saying that trying to lay the blame this
administration rather than the Biden Warren economy is a hope.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Look the Nuance comment.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
You know, she's she's, she comes, she comes credentialed, albeit
she claimed her Native American heritage to get, you know,
so that she could have special consideration as a protected class.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
The Pocahontas name, by the way, was given to her
by Rush.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
And it's true because it's because she sought to be
a protected class and they get special hiring, you know,
privileges because of her minority status, which if you look
at her, it's hard to discern that she is Native American.
But that's why where she got the name. But she
must have learned somewhere that if she wants to come
at Secretary Best Scott Bessen that way, She's kind of

(01:06:19):
coming to a gunfight with a plastic spoon. It's just
not going to work out well for it. He is
going to absolutely frame it accurately, succinctly, and she's just
not going to be able to put him in a
place where he won't be able to answer the question
not only just truthfully, but with a with a cut
to it that you know, shows who this is really,
who's really responsible for it? And it's her, and it's

(01:06:40):
the Democrats, and it's a Biden administration. They're the ones
that put us in this hole.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Yeah, and Donald Trump has said it's going to take
a while to dig out of this. And you know,
as we talked earlier today to Steve Moore, things are
starting to show some real positive movement. Yeah, they are,
and it's going to take a little bit of a time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
And I think even when we spoke with Liz Peek
earlier this week, she's that it's not going to be
just like one big moment where it bang, Okay, we're fine,
we're back, but we'll start to feel it. And I
do think that you can't look at the indicators and
not know that we're we're turning a corner. But we
I I still will tell you that. I'm not going
to say that we're back or that things are better
until I hear it inside my own home.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
And I'm not hearing it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
And you're hearing it. Remember years ago, I'm not sure
how long this was. I remember the Shamwell, Yes, ShamWow.
I remember Shamwell, Mary Shamwell, the guy, the guy who
introduced the sham well. I guess well, it was like
a shammy cloth that wiped off everything, right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
It cleans everything. It was a sham wow. Its just
shambow absorbs anything oily ShamWow. To take it off anything.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Well, guess what The man behind it is running for Congress?

Speaker 9 (01:07:46):
Is he really?

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
He's down in Texas and he's released his first ad.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Hey it's Vince.

Speaker 18 (01:07:51):
I'm running for Congress against this guy. Stop having a
politician that's worse than Biden.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
That's the discretionary funding.

Speaker 18 (01:08:01):
Instead, vote for me, a guy who's not half dead.
I'm going to soak up the swamp, clean the house,
and pick off those liberal tears. At the same time,
I'm going to slap chop the nuts out of the woke,
making less bluehead commies more red blooded Americans. Vote for
me so I can represent you and the ones that
can't stand out for themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Sham Slow me for Congress, brilliant. Where is he running?

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
I'm ready. I'm ready to change my voter registration and
go there. I'm going to live there and vote for
that guy. Where does he live?

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Running for Congress in Texas? Texas?

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
That's we have an advantage in Texas, right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
If he doesn't pass out Shamwells with his name, and
oh he should. I mean, that's that's look up.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
All the mess in Washington. You heard him say.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
That's right. So he's still around. Shamwell guy running for Congress. Well,
good luck.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
I always want a Shamlow I never got one, but
I always wanted. I watched that infomercial and I always wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
It was all over the place.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
Really is very impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Yeah, well done job. Yes, all right. When we come
back the violence by the illegal aliens in this country,
we'll give you a rundown of all of it. Coming
down on the Rod and Greg Show in Utah's Talk
Radio one oh five nine k NRS.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Ice immigration talking about the protests, whether it be middle
school students and the schools and the administrators, teachers, parents,
even in some cases the police that facilitated these young
people getting out in the streets, committing damage in stores,
into vehicles in certain spots along the Wallstatch front. We
can talk about that, but what we're really talking about

(01:09:36):
is the open borders that really fueled all of what
we're having to deal with now in the four years
of it we had during the Biden administration. And so
let's shift years and talk. Let's get a little bit,
Let's go upstream a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Yeah, let's go upstream. Beginning in December of last year,
if you recall, as dramatically increased its presence in Minneapolis.
Of course, the primary reason for that was it stepped
up its operation in a city in that local law enforcement,
under the direction of city and state officials, would rather
release criminals they arrest for other offenses than turn them

(01:10:09):
over to Ice and be removed from the country. Well,
the folks at the Federation for American Immigration Reform has
been taking a look at the people who came into
this country illegally and their criminal record, and joining us
now on our newsmaker line to talk about that report
is Paul sterna director of International Affairs with the Federation
for American Immigration Reform. Paul. Great to have you on

(01:10:31):
the show. Let's talk about this, Paul. What did you find?
What does this new study say about criminals and illegal aliens?

Speaker 19 (01:10:38):
Yes, yes, thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 9 (01:10:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:10:41):
So this list includes everyone from murderers and family annihilators
to rapist slash murderers and.

Speaker 9 (01:10:49):
Child rapists, child pornographers.

Speaker 19 (01:10:52):
So yeah, I think worst of the worst definitely definitely
fits the bill.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
So I'm just looking at the eye. So I think
it good that ICE has X pages and they're regional
also national. But I'm looking at uh recent just this,
this post from ICE in Salt Lake City is just
six hours old, and it shows that he's convicted of
aggravated battery using a deadly weapon. It sentenced to five
years in prison.

Speaker 5 (01:11:16):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
This is this is one of the people that today
or at least they're reporting today with his mug shots
that they've been able to remove or they're detaining to
have removed here in Salt Lake City. I go down
this list, and I've got to tell you, when I
hear the people in Minnesota say we just want safe neighborhoods.
And I look at the mug shots in the in
the criminal history of the people that are currently being deported,

(01:11:37):
this guy, strangulation, domestic battery. Uh what what is? Why
is there such a disconnect on this?

Speaker 19 (01:11:48):
I think, well, probably problem is just the philosophy on
the anti ice, anti borders, open borders left where they
seem to disregard or not notice the fact that the
illegal alien population includes some really bad ownbrays, really bad

(01:12:09):
people such as featured in this report, and they sort
of see them as through their ideological glasses. They see
these people as victims of US imperialism and historic racism,
past exclusionary policies, et cetera. And so they're really closing

(01:12:30):
their eyes to the fact that these are horrible people
who commit crimes and simply, uh, simply they're hostages to
their own sort of skewed ideology. And as a result,
ordinary people, including immigrants themselves, suffer as a result and

(01:12:50):
are hurt or killed by really bad criminals.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Paul, I wonder how many people actually realize people like
this who you live, the hardened criminals, These these people
actually live in their neighborhoods, and what they have done.
I wonder how many people in those neighborhoods even realize
who these guys are. Do you have any idea?

Speaker 19 (01:13:14):
Well, so, yeah, a lot of people I think have
no idea who exactly is living in their neighborhoods. So
some of these gangs, they don't publicly advertise that they
belong to the gang.

Speaker 9 (01:13:29):
You know, you can see their tattoos. Maybe, but a
lot of I would.

Speaker 19 (01:13:34):
Say, in a lot of immigrant type neighborhoods, whether these
are just illegal alien neighborhoods or whether they're mixed status
when there's legal immigrants there too, I think a lot
of the especially if these are ethnic communities, people from
the same region or the same country, I think a
lot of them know that, hey, the guy who's living
next door, the guy with a lot of tattoos, who

(01:13:56):
has a very mean face all the time, that this
guy is probably an MS thirteen or trender or ragua.
And I'm sure they're scared of them, and they stay
out of their way. And so you know, when ICE,
these ICE operations are often portrayed as quote unquote anti immigrant,
but really who they're protecting most is the immigrants living

(01:14:17):
in those neighborhoods who happen to have a gang member
or criminal living in their midst.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
So let me ask you this. They I think there's
a purpose. G you said it. I think that they
are trying to conflate immigrants, legal immigrants with those that
are here they're illegally, and particularly criminals, like violent criminals,
and they're trying to say this is an anti immigrant
effort generally. What do you think is happening amongst those
that are here legally, that are immigrants but aren't criminals

(01:14:47):
and aren't the ones that are subject to this. Are
they taking it personally? Are they against the efforts of ice?
Do you think is it impacting them in a way
where they they don't want these criminals found and deported
either or are they hoping that that happens that they So, you.

Speaker 19 (01:15:03):
Know, what are we talking about naturalized citizens and legal immigrants.

Speaker 9 (01:15:07):
I think it's a mixed bag. It's a big spectrum.

Speaker 19 (01:15:10):
Some people they really believe in the sort of ethnic solidarity,
immigrants solidarity type ideology, identity politics, especially on the left.
Among these groups, there's a lot of identity politics where
the fact that this illegal alien criminals being deported happens
to be from their home country. That tends to trump

(01:15:30):
the fact that this person is a child rapist or
a murderer. But I think also a lot of legal immigrants,
including me, I happen to be a legal immigrant to
this country and the naturalized citizen, they're quite happy to
see the worst of the worst getting removed because that
means safer communities.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
That's not having to worry.

Speaker 19 (01:15:52):
About getting stabbed or jump while you get in your
car trying to go to work. You don't have to
worry or you have to worry less about the local
gang and A's thirteen or UGA gang trying to extort
your business as you're trying to make a living for
your family.

Speaker 9 (01:16:10):
So I do think a lot of legal immigrants.

Speaker 19 (01:16:14):
Are, whether they're openly saying it or just thinking it
in their heads, they're not upset about these ICE operations
targeting the worst of the worst.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
You know, Paul, what you point out. I think this
is the fact most people don't realize this, but you
pointed out in your report this all could have been
prevented if we would have had secure borders during the
Biden years. These people would not have gotten into this
country if the borders were back then were like they
are today, they wouldn't have had a chance to get
into this country. And that's what's so sad about this,
isn't it.

Speaker 9 (01:16:44):
Paul, Yeah, one thousand percent.

Speaker 19 (01:16:47):
You know, that's one of the biggest things that makes
me upset when I study this stuff and write about it, is,
you know, someone like Rachel Morin or someone like Kayla
Hamilton or yeah, yeah, we're Lake and Riley's all the

(01:17:09):
victims profiled than the reporter. That these people would still
be alive today if we didn't have these poorest borders
and horrible open borders policies, especially under the Biden administration.
So really, all of these crimes, we call them preventable
crimes because that's exactly that's exactly what they are. And

(01:17:29):
you know, one of the bad things also that shows
how broken these open borders policies are is that some
of these criminals this was not their first rodeo they had.

Speaker 9 (01:17:41):
There are people who had been deported twice, three times,
several times last time they entered under Biden.

Speaker 19 (01:17:49):
But when you have forest borders in sufficient enforcement, the
border becomes a revolving door.

Speaker 9 (01:17:56):
People get deported and they.

Speaker 19 (01:17:58):
Wait around, they come back and we have to deport
them again, and then they commit a crime, they get
deported again, and so forth, and so this is really
about the importance of border security, which is crucial.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Yeah, it's all about border security. Paul, thank you for
joining us. Paul Sterner, director of International Affairs with the
Federation for American Immigration Reform, here on the Rod and
Greg Show. Some final thoughts as we wrapped the day
up for you coming up on talk radio one oh
five nine k n R s Oh, it's like Moody Blues,
Did you good? Were they my air or your air?

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Your air more years than mine? That is a little
bit of a cross.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
Was there a little bit of a crossover?

Speaker 6 (01:18:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
Okay, tiny tiny cross, ver Sliver.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
I'm just trying to be done.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Was it all seventies? Were they all seventies? Rights pay?

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
You you listened to some seventies music, Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
I did. I listened to last seventies music.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
I was driving over last night. I decided to give
the sixties channel.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Oh that's seventies.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Let me tell you what early sixties that's bad.

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
I'm driving home, just laughing and going. And then the
Beatles came along cud of change things.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
In the fifties. I liked Elvis. I was always like
Elvis songs. I love all the Elvis songs. As a kid,
I can remember being a little kid loving Elvis. I
loved Elvis.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
I loved his movies too. Yeah, they were there. They're
so lifelike. No, they they were like documentary. No they
we're gonna win this race.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
He couldn't stand doing those after a couple of he
hated doing them.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
Man, if he was a race car driver, he won.
If he was a lifeguard, he was saving lives. I mean,
you name it, Elvis was doing it. I love those movies.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
He tried a Western called charl Yeah, it was awful.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
It was awesome. Every every everything loved Elvis was all.
I would watch them. There was a channel that was
doing like an Elvis marathon, and I would watch them
all day as a kid. As a kid, I like
love Elvis. Yeah, I'd send away for those like k
Tell or whatever TV called the eight hundred number, and
I would call it and get the and get them

(01:20:04):
to center. The gold album like the Vinyl albums like
double album.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Did your mother know you were doing that?

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
She had to how would I have paid for it.
I don't even know how I paid for it, but
I got it. I remember getting it in the mail.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Hey, we always love our talkback listeners. People listen to
the show leave us a message on talkback before we
wrap up. We thought we'd like you'd like to hear
this one tonight. We didn't get to this, but here
it is, Hey, Ron and Greg, this is Jeremy and Payson.

Speaker 8 (01:20:28):
I'm not surprised that there's anti ICE riots.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Going on here in Utah.

Speaker 8 (01:20:33):
Remember Nick Shirley said the most violent groups he's ever
come across are liberals of Utah. We have the worst
of the worst in the world here and it's a
religion for them. And the teachers they are, oftentimes the
foot soldiers.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
Remember they don't have their own kids. They recruit your kids.
That's what they go to education. Yeah, good boy, the
worst of the worst.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Nick Shirley's been around too. I always worry about as
well being. And if he's saying that the worst are
the liberals and most violent are the liberals in Utah,
you would know he's been all over Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Speaking of that, By the way, apparently some billboards great
we mentioned yesterday, This electronic billboard that's gone up in
San Francisco, right, well, yeah, Fisherman's Wharf, which defensive player
of the year ICE. I love it. But apparently other
billboards expressing support for immigration and Customs enforcement agents are

(01:21:29):
calling out liberal hypocrisy. They've sprung up in several swing
states after federal law enforcement officers continue to face protest
ICE office. This is what they say. ICE officers are fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters,
uncles and cousins and friends and true Americans. That's what

(01:21:49):
the billboards are saying. So yeah, those you know, keeping
it real. I would just like those students great, not
only there BYU, but at UVU, and show them some
pictures of the kids who've been captured by ICE, yeah,
and their criminal records, and say you want you want
a guy like this in your neighborhood, or do you
want them hire some.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
Real degenerates they're catching. They're catching some stone cold criminals.
I mean they got they just Department of Homeland Security
just added five thousand, just today, five thousand more mugshots
of people that they've arrested and with records that you
you want want them in your house?

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
Times they are a changing. As Bob Dylan wrote once
Coca Cola discontinuing minute Mads cans of frozen orange juice.
Oh really yeah, they're all done.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Big frozen.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
Yeah you out of the all right, all done, don't
need it anymore? All right, that doesn't rest tonight. Had
hoofs shoulders back? Hey God, Well, if you and your
family this great country of we'll see you Tomorrow's that right? Absolutely,
they'll be joining us at four. We hope you do

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