The Rod and Greg Show: Tim Walz's Monumental Failures as a Democrat Leader; Trump Takes Parent's Side on Gender Identity Issues

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm Rodarque, I'm citizen Greg Hughes.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
A lot to get to today, sir.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Sure is Minnesota governor authorizes the state authorize the state
National Guard to support local law enforcement. It suggests that
local law enforcement in the National Guard will be I
don't know what supporting one another against what Ice? Is
that what they're talking about here?

Speaker 1 (00:29):
I guess so as that may be what it means.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Who knows these guys project, you know, we're in a
civil war? Well, that would actually create one if you
actually want to pick you know, your National Guard and
local law enforcement against meneral law enforcement officials. That would
that would be a conflict, now, wouldn't it.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Well, we have got a great show lined up for
you today, of course, going a lot more to say
about what happened in Minneapolis and the shooting involving an
ICE agent and a well, what were they called a
legal observer?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Legal observer? That word was used over and over and
over again, completely revealing that it's a talking point, it's circulated,
and they're very good at parting very leftist talking points
that they receive in lightning speed.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, we'll talk about that. We'll talk Greg here in
a few minutes about how what just happened in Minneapolis
that the Democrats may use the same story in the
George Floyd murder as one of their political talking points
come the mid term elections. We'll break that down. We'll
also talk about the spectacular failure of little Timmy Walls.
We'll get into this a little bit later on. Also,

(01:30):
Steve Moore will join us. More good economic news coming
out today. So we've got a lot to get to
and will you invite you to be a part of
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(01:51):
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Speaker 2 (01:53):
Always enjoy hearing from our listeners. I never hear a take.
I don't have to sit back and think and agree
or it makes me rethink my position. It's always good.
The discussion that we have with our listeners is my
favorite part of the show.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah yeah, well sometimes, you know, Greg, we have to
give credit where credit is due, right, you know, we're
constantly going after corporations who decided to enter the atmosphere
of woke. Yes, you know, you've got Target, you've got
bud Light, you've got Jaguar all over. We're very very
critical Starbucks, all right. But it's only fair, I think,
to complement a company that does something that we agree with. Yes, okay,

(02:31):
case in point the story, what was it yesterday or
two days ago? Where we had learned that a Hampton Inn,
which is a franchise of Hilton right, decided not to
give rooms to ice.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Agents, Yes, and put it in an email which then
I've been able to read and the rest of America's
read as well, And it wasn't a good look.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
No, no, So what happened today? I love this. The
Hilton folks brought in a big old crane and immediately
removed the Hampton in sign from the motel.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
So what I love about that is that they rescinded
their franchise. So they could not disparage their good name
or their corporate brand any longer. They didn't just do
it by memo or by email. They came with a
crane to physically remove the name away from the property,
which is appropriate. And also talking speaking of hotels, the

(03:27):
Marriott has issued a statement today because it was discovered
that some an employee in that area really of a Marriott,
was doxing federal law enforcement agents and letting them know
where they were staying inside that hotel. They did some investigation,
found out it was an employee, and Marriott was quick
to terminate that employee and put out a statement in

(03:47):
no way, shape or form do they condone such actions,
and acted immediately upon finding out that that had happened.
So you've got some people that are at these hotels
that are gone rogue.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Not only the hotels, but they're on social media posting
today apparently one of the McDonald's in that area is
refusing to serve ice officers.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I don't know how long. I don't know if you
saw the campaign in twenty six, but you know the president,
he was candidate then he was been president, was serving
up the fries from the McDonald's. I think McDonald's likes
Presidental Trump.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, Rodow boosted sales less for sure.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, So I don't think that'll last long.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
All right. And other stories related to this, We've got
a lot of little stories about the shooting in Minneapolis
we want to share with you today. The ice agent,
the officer who fatally shot the woman in Minneapolis yesterday.
It's not the first time he's had a confrontation with
a vehicle. He was dragged. Story is today dragged behind
a vehicle driven by an illegal immigrant who was fleeing

(04:49):
traffic last year in Chicago. Yes, this is the second
time that's happened to that poor agent.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, And I think he learned from those. And again,
these are split second decisions. And I think I made
a Hey, I made an emotional hedge bet yesterday that
I've lost and I'm glad that I lost it. I
thought you'd see violence, you'd see buildings on fire. I
thought you see violence. I we haven't. So far, so good,
And I think that that's important. But don't you think that,
Like you remember when Walls's wife said, I opened up

(05:14):
the windows during the George Floyd rides and I could
smell the burning of rubber the tires, and I was
so inspired. You think she's had her windows over for
two days, just sticking her snood out there, waiting to
smell something burning. I think she's disappointed.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Not in Minneapolis this time of year.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
No chill.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
If your window open, you're gonna free.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, probably too chilly. But I think that she's still
hoping to smell the burning tires of freedom in her mind,
which isn't isn't what we'd want.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Well, you know, the liberals are too afraid to carry guns,
so their weapon are vehicles.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yes, right, it looked like when yesterday. Every every video
I've seen, it looks pretty Yeah, it looks pretty uh
you know, dangerous.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Get this number. In the last year, Ice and Border
Patrol agents have been involved with more than one hundred
vehicles that have tried to go after them. Yeah, one hundred.
And they do if the weapon well, yeah, and they
do it, and they do it in different fashions. They
can try to run you over with that car. They
can block the traffic.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
We had an incident here in uh, yes, in Salt
Lake where they went on I eighty and they just
turned their car sideway, stopped all the traffic as for
as long as they could. And so people do they
use their vehicles as ways to create civil unrest or worse, Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Violence? Yeah, And didn't they do that during the George
Floyd demonstrations in downtown Salt Lake City? What back in
twenty twenty was it where they tried to Yeah, they
tried to use vehicles to go after police back.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Then they did. And so it's it's we can't I
just look at what's going on in America just generally,
and you'll see some horrific crimes and some some murders
and some homicides, and the Left doesn't give a win.
That poor woman on that subway that was that was
murdered that you saw the video of, I've never seen
the left recoil on that. And the reason I would

(07:00):
argue they don't recoil is it doesn't further their political agenda.
This what happened further's a political agenda. It has to
have no bearing in truth. It doesn't have to be
They've been trying to provoke this for quite some time,
but they'll treat this woman being shot. And by the way,
I don't know anyone that's excited or happy celebrating that
she's been killed. We don't. What we'll say is she

(07:21):
was violating orders from the law enforcement. She was driving
her car right towards a federal law enforcement officer and
doing so. It's a pretty dangerous prospect, and he was
defending himself. We will explain that, but we don't take
any joy. And you look at the left, they love
it when someone dies. If that had been an ice
agent that had have been run over, oh, they'd be
cheering from the streets. They'd be celebrating. They'd be making

(07:43):
cartoons about it, they would be celebrating. I believe that.
I just think that if you look at the violence
that's happened where a woman in that subway was brutally murdered,
you don't see as you should. The recoil just oh,
without regard to political persuasion, we should all be so
horrified and want to get to the bottom of how

(08:03):
in the world something like that could happen. They ignore
that at the same time promote this legal observer, which
is the new word they like to use, and make
that somehow more important or more consequential than that poor
woman that was killed in the subway. So I just
think it's selective logic. It's selective outrage, and you got
to call it out when you see it.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Did you see any of the news conference yesterday with
a whack job of a mayor of Minneapolis and the
police chief standing representation.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
That Kuy's a dangerous guy?

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah? Did you get a sense that that police chief
was a little uncomfortable being beside him as he went
and attacked police and ICE agents? Right? Well, apparently today
Greg not a surprise. The organization that represents sheriffs in
Minnesota and the local police organization that represents you know,
the police out there in Minneapolis both came out sharply

(08:51):
against what the mayor has said and what the governor
has said, saying, wait a minute, folks, wait a minute.
These are our peeps, man, don't attack them, don't attack
law enforcement. And all ICE is doing and people don't
understand this is they're doing their job. But you have
these libs out there, and you could list to a
montage of this running around the country. Kane saying, well,

(09:12):
they're killing people. ICE agents are killing people, They're ripping
family and support, they're doing this, they're doing that. None
of this is true.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
It isn't and and look, I thought New Kingrich he
put a post out here just recently, and I thought
it was very succinct, and he just warns people. He says, Look,
he says that we need to be clear and more
direct about this very point. Tim Walls and several of
the Democrat governors are playing a very dangerous game. A
duly elected Congress passed laws to deal with illegal immigration.

(09:41):
The same duly elected Congress passed appropriations to substantially increase
funding for ICE. The duly elected elect president has exercised
his constitutional authority to instruct ICE to enforce the law.
Any Democratic governor who advocates breaking the law and opposing
federal law the federal government is violating the Constitution and
putting their citizens at risk. And that is that is

(10:03):
just the simple truth of the matter right there.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Sure is. All right, We've got a lot to get to.
We're gonna talk about the unbelievable downfall of Tim Walls
and how the Democrats may use what happened yesterday in
the midterm elections. That's all coming up on the Thursday
edition of The Rodding Greg Show. Great to be with
you right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Okay,
n rs. Good to be with you on this Thursday.
I was just thinking about it. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday

(10:27):
and Monday college or pro football playoffs?

Speaker 2 (10:29):
It is it is going to be. I picked the
wrong time to start new year. Knew me losing weight.
This was not the time.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, because we'll park on the couch and yeah, that little.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Can log the hours watching.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Football, some wings, maybe some case of do you with yes?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
And a case O stop talking now, Sorry, Ray, we're
saying while we're all trying to lose what this is
a bad, bad thing.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Well, joining us on our newsmaker line is a good
friend of ours. We love to have Jim on the show.
We're talking about Jim Antl. He's the politics editor the
Washington Examiner. He wrote a couple of great articles about
events of the past week, first of all about the
ice shooting that took place in Minneapolis and how it
could kind of set the stage for Democrats and there
during the midterm elections, and also talking about the spectacular

(11:16):
collapse of Tim Walls. And Jim is joining us on
our news meager line right now. Jim, how are you
welcome to the Rod and Greg Show? Great to have
you back, Jim.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Great to be here.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Jim.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Let me ask you, first of all, there are a
couple of issues, as I mentioned, we want to talk
to you about. How do you foresee the Democrats using
this Ice shooting in Minneapolis yesterday in the midterm elections
coming up in November. How are they going to use
this in the campaign? Do you think?

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Well, it obviously further radicalizes them on this issue. It
moves them back to the abolish Ice position. It moves
them back, i think, to the Biden open borders position
if they ever left.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
It, and it positions them as not really being in
favor of immigration enforcement. Now, maybe that can work in
some midterm races because they're only going to need to
turn out some of these resistance type voters who do
view Ice as.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
The Trump Gestapo.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
But it's probably a really bad thing for Democrats once
they face a national election with a broader electorate.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
So, you know, the the big theme around Governor Walls
when he ran with as on the ticket with Kamala
Harris and and was that he was a he could
be a liberal, but he was a man's man and
he was going to appeal to the to the people
that like Trump, you know, the middle America, the blue
collar voter. It seems to have failed spectacularly then and

(12:43):
it doesn't seem to have improved now. I don't think
Governor Walls's image has improved at all since the he
was since the November election. Well, I know that, I
know he's announced he's not going to actually run again
for the UH for re election for a historic third term.
But what do you what do you think the general
sense is of Governor Walls, even you know, with all

(13:04):
these things going on to the fraud, but now the
ice issue, with his narrative of who he is and
how tough he is. Where's he sitting in the eyes
of American people? Do you think right now?

Speaker 4 (13:15):
I think he was a disaster on the Democrat He's
been a disaster as governor in Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
You know, he's the mister Rogers of masculinity.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
It's just without any of the warmth or good humor
or appeal to small children. It just is, you know,
the idea that he was sort of the future of
the party is just kind of laughable. Now, even though
he's decided not to run for reelection, he does seem
to be using this Ice shooting a way to maybe

(13:46):
keep his political career alive since he's going to lead
this revolt against Donald Trump in a blue state. But
you know, the Tim Walls a vacation of the Democratic
Party I think has not really worked well for them.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
So following up on that, do you think that he
might reconsider it? I mean, he's pounding his chest pretty
hard right now. He just told the National Guard to
be on the ready with local law enforcement. Do you
think he reconsiders his run for governor? Is this a
way to take the eye off the ball of fraud
and now he's back, do you think he'll maybe reconsider that?

Speaker 4 (14:21):
He could He could also reconsider twenty twenty eight if
he's not going to run for reelection this year. So
you know, I don't think either of those.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
No, Minnesota's a blue enough state.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Maybe he gets re elected if he changes his mind
about running for governor, But I think if he tried
to run for president, that's not really going to go anywhere.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
But you never know.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Democrats really feel that their base wants them to fight Trump.
At any time you fight Trump, and in this case,
I think it is a way to change people's attention
away from the daycare scandal and some alli welfare benefits.
Is probably even as bad as the ice issue is

(15:03):
for Democrats.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
I think it's better than the daycare stuff, right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
So, you know, I do think he is looking for
this not to be the end of his political career,
which just a couple of days ago seemed almost like
a foregone conclusion.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah. Is he ever going to Is he forever going
to be tied with the fraud there in Minneapolis, do
you think, Jim?

Speaker 4 (15:26):
I think that's going to be a really big part
of his legacy now. Now how directly implicated in it
he ends up being, it remains to be seen. I
think it is pretty evident that at least he created
a climate in which this could could could you know
Bester And he certainly wasn't really keeping tabs on whether

(15:50):
these benefits were going where they're supposed to go, because,
you know, and the basic racial attitudes made.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
It difficult to scrutinize any of aesthetic. Uh so I
think he does. They're a big part of the blame,
you know.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
Whether he actually did anything legally or wrong, I think
remains to be seen.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Jim is always great chatting with you, thank you and
enjoy the rest of your evening. Thank you, Jim, Thank
you very much. That's Jim Mantle. He is the politics
editor at the Washington Examiner. Joining us on our newsmaker
line as you work your way home on this Thursday afternoon.
I just think Tim Walls is a joke. He is
such a joke. How can anybody take that guy seriously?

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Well, and I think some people just forget that this
news cycle, this whole fraud started when UH Minnesota state
employees whose agency was to to find fraud were being stifled.
They were being silenced, they were being fired from their
jobs or relocated their their page, their social media page
where they were exposing this was was closed down by

(16:51):
the Minnesota state government. He's He's way closer to this
than you know people realize, because if you look at
how the story started, it started within the state government
complaining about how they were being censured from that governor
and from the state of Minnesota, and then it just
took off from there.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah. Yeah, And the whistleblowers were Democrats, not just for
the probably because a lot of them were Democrats saying
hey we got a problem here in it. The other one,
I don't know when this is going to happen. Is
Keith Ellison, the Attorney General? Is when is the everything
going to start falling on him? Because it certainly should.
They've got tape of him saying, I'll protect you, guys.

(17:29):
Don't worry about it, all right, We've got a lot
more to get to. It is the Thursday edition of
the Rod and Greg Show on Talk Radio one five
to nine knrs. It feels like winter today.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
It does. Well, it's January. It's kind of a thing.
I'd say it does. But I enjoyed the warm, unseasonably
warm weather. I wasn't complaining.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, I liked it, you know. Following the tragic events
that happened in Minneapolis yesterday, it is typical anymore in
this country that instead of all of us sitting back
a little bit and say, let's analyze this, let's see
exactly what happens, we all go to our corners and
we have our own versions of the story. But are
there opportunities out there that we may not be seen
to unite America? Joining us on our newsmaker line right

(18:10):
now is Ed Ring. He's a senior fellow at the
Center for American Greatness. Ed, How are you welcome back
to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
Yeah, I'm doing fine, Thank you, rog Ed.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
I love your article where you talk about this and
the fact that you bring up whack a mole to me,
because that's where we're kind of facing each and every
day we get something done and something else pops up.
It really is a challenge right now for America, isn't.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
It, Ed?

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, well, it sure is.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
And the solution to this whole whack a mole, which
I guess the mole would be a metaphor for the
corruption that just crops up everywhere as people take advantage
of generous and sort of unaccountable programs of benefits. The
solution is to modify the system and create opportunities instead

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of just creating benefits.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
So you know, it even gets worse, just even this,
just this afternoon, if you didn't think it could get
bad enough. The Tennessee Congressman Tim Burchett confirms the taxpayer
funds went from Minnesota to Somalia and terror organizations, but
ends up ultimately in Iran. So I'm totally opposed to
welfare funds going to terrorists. I think that's just my state,

(19:20):
that's just my stance, But it just highlights how abusive
and how pointless the welfare state has become and the
abuses are going on. So tell us, is there a way?
Is there some common ground? Is there something that we
can do where there's earned success, where there's something that
helps people, gives them a hand up, not a handout,
something that's real and not this contrived help where it's

(19:44):
not helping anyone, it's actually just enriching the wrong people.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
Well, you know, there's two things at work here, and
one is what is our immigration policy? What should we
be doing? I mean, should we be bringing people into
the country who are fairly employable or should we be
brandinging into the country people who have skills that will
you know, make our manufacturing and our science and our
medicine stronger. So that's kind of a separate question. It's

(20:13):
a related question when you talk about welfare though. What
you know, the point in an article that I read
by Joel Kotkin where he talked about mixed capitalism, which
is a really interesting concept that is totally rejected by
both sides, And you know, the point he made, and
I think it's very really relevant here is that when

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we had reasonable protections for labor where it was regulated
but it wasn't out of control. And when we had
reasonable safety nets for people that are out of work
or people that are too old to support themselves anymore,
that made sense because it created a stability in the
country that basically it took away the threat of communism

(20:57):
in the United States. It created the stability that allowed
our economy and our investors and our big businesses to
expand and thrive, and they ended up. You know, this
is almost an argument you'd hear from Art Laugher where
he talks about if you lower taxes, you actually grow
the economy so much that you get more tax revenue.

(21:20):
And it's almost paraphrasing that where if you put out
some safety nets that are reasonable in the economy, you
create the stability where you grow the economy so much
that the profits you make are greater than the amount
that you had to spend in taxes to provide that support.
But what's happened in recent years is it's gotten completely corrupted.

(21:41):
It's turned into a negative spiral. You know, politically connected
corporations take the worst elements of crony capitalism, they grow,
they join with public sector bureaucracies, tax shelter, nonprofits, private
sector and public mostly public sector unions, and they just
feed on these programs, and the programs don't have to

(22:02):
work anymore. The programs just have to create revenue for
these special interests. And then of course the programs themselves
become counterproductive. Where you have so many regulations, so much
taxes to support all of this, that you create an
environment where the economy is to isn't affordable anymore, and

(22:22):
then more people are driven into dependence. And we've created
a negative spiral by investing in overly generous, unaccountable benefits
instead of investing, like they did back in the thirties
and the end in the fifties and sixties, in public
infrastructure that actually lowered the cost of everything in our economy.
We had cheap energy, cheap water, we had beautiful freeways.

(22:45):
Everything was built with an eye towards facilitating economic growth,
and it created jobs doing things that would yield these
productive results. And we've got to get back to that.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Well, as you point out from the Kutkin article, Joel
and Cock our ed, Jim, Joel pointed, that's out, and
we've had Joel on the show before the limited embrace
that we had of social democracy back then, he points out,
was a choice to save capitalism. But isn't that of
the opinion now or you get the feeling now that
we're embracing social democracy more than we ever have in

(23:17):
this country.

Speaker 5 (23:19):
We are, and you know that's exactly right. It's gotten corrupted,
it's gotten out of control, and unfortunately it's co opted
a lot of the capitalists, you know, special interests if
you will. But the business sector, of large portions of
the business sector, large portions of the private sector, have
become class eye public. They've seen a path of least

(23:40):
resistance here where they become government contractors. They've become suppliers
and vendors to these programs, and that becomes their profit
center instead of focusing on productive investment in infrastructure, for example,
which and housing, because it's been regulated to the point
where they're kind of thinking, well, let's can't beat them,

(24:00):
join them, And it's created a crony capitalist environment that
is in league with the big government sector. And again
it creates a negative spiral. So we've we've gotten completely
off the track. Back in the nineteen thirties, they had
a small reasonable safety net at the same time as
they were pouring most of the government resources into things

(24:23):
like dams and you know, the Tennessee Valley Authority in
the fifties, the Interstate Highway system in the sixties, the
California Water Project. These things yielded economic dividends and created jobs,
and they created economic dividends that we're still benefiting from today.
And it all get a multi generalational benefit from a

(24:44):
welfare payment that you made twenty years ago, you made
someone dependent.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, that's true. Ed as always great chatting with you.
Thank you anytime from the Center for American grevery very much.
Ed Ring here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five
nine Gannerus.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
And then I just want to say the Utah as
you see it now, with over three million people living
here and having a strong economy, are based on all
the things he just described, because our original reservoirs, all
of our water infrastructure were part of those federal funding
funded programs that allowed for us to capture the water
and be able to thrive as a state as we have.

(25:18):
So that was that the return on investment there was
of those of those dollars was massive. In the federal
dollars now there's nothing they've actually pulled out of those things.
They don't help with the reservoirs or even the improvement
of as a age. They're doing nothing on the infrastructure side,
and so you're you're not seeing any and all you're
seeing our billions going to Somalia. I guess I don't know.
It's just unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
All right, more coming up on the Rod and Greg
Show and Talk Radio one oh five nine, Can Arrest Anything? Well,
you rock, I can't imagine. This happens most nights in
the huge home. He are you ready for this? Let
me pay interest, let me let me paint this picture.
All right, you get home, you and Queen Bee, You
pull out your little TV dinners, You heat him up,

(26:00):
You go to your favorite little chairs, you have your
TV trades in front of you. You sit down, you eat,
and you watch Jeopardy. Nope, nope, no, really.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Sorry, that's not how it works.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
I bring that up because do you know who Ken
Jennings is, Yes, the host of one of Jeffardy.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Before taking Alex Alex Trebek's place, he was the most
winning contestant.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
He's from Jopardy from It's from from Murray. I think
it is. Well, apparently he has a political bent on one.
Donald Trump doesn't like Trump.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
I heard this?

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Did you hear this? And he took a swipe at
him again yesterday he went on Blue Sky. I think
that's the.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
What's the insane social media? Social media Twitter?

Speaker 1 (26:46):
He said, basically, the prosecute the former regime at every level.
Candidate has my vote in twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah, so you can be book smart, but you don't
you don't have street smarts, Ken Jenny. I mean that's
that doesn't show you you're paying your track and what's
going on around you. Yeah, I mean that's yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Well, you know when when when he just first started
Ken Jennings, right, yes, you know, he was begging to
get on a radio and TV station throughout this market.
He hit the big time. He ignores us. Yeah, well
not that I want to talk to him any ways,
but he just ignores you.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, I'm not I'm not interested in him. So that's
a that's he can stay wherever it is, whatever echo
chamber he's in currently where he would would lead him
to post something like that. Is he still the is
he still the host of the Jeopardy Well, I mean
I don't know where any of these entertainers lost the
concept of math where you need to appeal to a
broad audience. And I don't know. I mean, I know,

(27:43):
in my in my own neighborhood, I would imagine there
are people that do not share my worldview. And I
don't hate my neighbors, and I don't think that they're
horrible people if they don't. And I'm also sensitive of
you know, you're not going to see every conservative organization's
logo on a sign in front of my house, just
to let everybody know where where I'm sitting in life,
I'm living in a neighborhood with people that have different ideas.

(28:04):
How does Ken Jennings think that he gets to host
a show as that's around before he got on it,
like Jeopardy, and then just be so.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Strident alienate half your audience.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Seventy seven million people voted for Trump, and I guess
he doesn't want any of those people to be watching Jeopardy.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
After Abby's newsed up, we come back and Steve Moore
will join us. We'll talk about the same way, economy
and what's going on that's coming up next from the
Rod and Gregg Show. I have not even pulled out
my snowblower this year.

Speaker 7 (28:31):
You know.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
And by the way, I think that's not abnormal. I
remember years in the nineties where you could golf every
month of the year. Yes, and so there are years
where the snowblower doesn't come out as often, and there's
some years where it felt like you were using it
every day. That pattern seems to be over the last
thirty years. I'd say that's not abnormal to have some

(28:51):
warmer windows and have some cooler one.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Yeah. You know, this would always crack me up about
the climate change of zelots out there. They actually think
we can control the weather.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
They do. It's like, I know, we can pass a
bill that senna just changed from other nature. And the
other thing is it used to be global warming. And
then once they saw that the warming wasn't working, they
said change, just climate change. So now but just changes, just.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Change, that's the problem. Yeah. Well, remember back in I
think it was in April where the president held his
what he called Liberation Day. Remember then, now shoot the
tariffs and everything else, and everyone went all the economy
is going to fail, stark market is going to collapse,
blah blah blah blah, blah right, yep. Well, the stark
market is nearing another record today. We're close to fifty
thousand uh and the tariffs are not having the impact

(29:35):
that a lot of people thought they would have. I mean,
listen to this jaw dropping admission from the chief Economists.
He's an advisor, his name is Mohammed l Areen. You
may have seen him before, had admitted that President Trump's
tariffs have impacted US consumers far less than originally anticipated.
Listen to this.

Speaker 8 (29:55):
The important is a consumer, and so far the consumer
is carrying the least of the burden. I can tell
you what's going on right now in companies is they're
going product by product, going through the elasticity is what
they think the consumer can absorb in terms of price
increase without destroying demand.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
And that finding out that they.

Speaker 8 (30:14):
Cannot pass through as much of the price increase as
they want, there's the export it as the important as
a consumer.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, I mean they can't. They did not want to
pass along or pass through the increase in the tariffs
because the consumer will go, we don't need your product.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Well yeah, they would interrupt their market share. But here's
the key to that. Though they're not going to do
it for free. No, So what you're talking about is
a profit margin on both sides of this transaction that
is healthy enough and large enough that they can absorb
the tariffs without passing it along to the consumer, which would,
as it was just described, would lessen the market share.
They'd get less consumers because it would be the price

(30:50):
would start to get out of reach. I always believed
that after the supply chain madness of twenty twenty in COVID,
nobody really reset that price smart that they just kept
the profit and so the profits grew. There's a large
margin there, and I think that's the reason why you
don't see tariffs being passed along as a tax, as
someone would call it, because they had margins that were

(31:11):
healthy enough they could absorb it both in porter exporter,
the transaction side, both sides of it could take their
bit and still make a profit. So there you go.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah. Well, joining us on our news maker line to
talk more about this, our good friend Steve More, an
economist co founder of Unleashed Prosperity. Steve, great to have
you back on the show tonight. A lot of economic
news out there today, a lot of numbers on productivity,
what's your take.

Speaker 6 (31:34):
The Reserve Board of Atlanta and estimating over five percent
growth in the fourth quarter. Over five percent. That is
an incredible number, hyper speed. So the economy is clicking
right now. There's no doubt about it. And some of
my Democratic friends are running out of things to complain about.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
It's so good.

Speaker 6 (31:54):
And you know, we still have an issue on the
housing issue of affordability, I man, and you know some
other things, but people are really seeing the improvement. And
what we're seeing also is Trump's approval rating in the
public opinion polls are climbing. He's still underwater, but people
are feeling better about things. And so I said this

(32:17):
a few weeks ago in your shoo that re mars
that you know, perception would catch up with reality. And
that's what's happening now. We have a really strong economy
and people are now acknowledging it.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
So let me ask you this, because I'm all these
numbers and I trust you. As soon as you say
they're doing well, I feel great because I do think
that you've been calling this shot for quite some time.
One of the things that people are talking about is
this massive fraud that that many are saying is not
even the tip. It might be the tip of the
tip of the iceberg in Minnesota. Some are arguing that
maybe ten percent.

Speaker 6 (32:48):
That's Minnesota, by the way, not just Minnesota. This is
happening in blue states and even some red states around
the country. These programs are riddled with fraud, billions and
billions and billions of dollars of fraud, and so this
is an epidemic of fraud in our welfare system.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
And so too tracking exactly what you just said, some
have said this could be up to ten percent of
the discretionary funding that the Congress passes every every year
or whatever they do, the supplemental budgets. But I'm asking
you if we get our arms around this, and I
heard there's a new AG that's being appointed just to
handle as a jurisdiction nationally, because to your point, it's
more than Minnesota the fraud issues with federal funding. Is

(33:30):
there a way that the efficiency there could be felt
nationally in terms of, you know, our productivity, what the
government spending, the deficits, all the economic factors that the
swamp has inflicted upon us. Do we see an improvement
in our own lives when this fraud is adequately addressed.

Speaker 6 (33:48):
Well, we'll certainly see you know if we if we
can that's a big if, if we can root out
the fraud. And you know those tried to do that,
remember at the beginning of the year and Elon Musk
tried to do it and he was ridiculed. Oh there's
no fraud. Remember what fraud is he talking about? And
so this is a heavy lift. And I want people

(34:10):
to understand that the states, especially California and Minnesota, in
my home state of Illinois, in New Jersey and New York,
they want the fraud. They're not. Do you think Tim
Wallas raised a finger to try to stop it.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Nope, no, no he didn't.

Speaker 6 (34:27):
Why not because it's free money from Uncle Sam, It's
free money from Washington. They view this as a stimulus.
You think I'm joking. I'm not. This is all free
money from Washington. You know, tell everybody to sign up
for food stamps and free daycare and you know nobody's
in the daycare center, but you know they got a
million dollars. I mean, so it is so widespread and

(34:48):
I think one of the things we need to do
is start to really severely financially penalize states like Minnesota
and like California that are doing nothing to clean this
mess up.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Steve, what about Venezuela and the oil situation there? I
know the President is trying to do something there. What
is going to come of this with Venezuela and in
particular the oil Steve, what do you see? What do
you foresee happening?

Speaker 6 (35:12):
Well, you know, first of all, I mean again, let's
just salute you know what this president that one of
the most amazing military feats of this will go down
in the annals of history. That this was able to
be achieved. A liberation of thirty million people without the
loss of a single American life were really amazing what
a commander achieved. I am told I'm not an expert
on this, but I'm told by people in the industry

(35:34):
that it's going to take a while, a couple of
years before we get those oil fields up and running again.
And by the way, this shows you the incompetence of socialism, communism,
social whatever you want to call these isms. I mean,
you know, the only real form of income they had
was from these oil fields, and under the former president,

(35:55):
you know, their oil production dropped by half. You know,
you talk about killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.
So but once you you know, once you let these
operations you know now function, it's hard to get them
up and running again. So it's going to take a while,

(36:16):
I'm told one or two years before they'll be able
to really get the spigotts up and running again.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
So let's go back to the economy. We had We
had a guest on what was last week, maybe it
was recently back, but he was talking about the affordability
issue and I said, well, let me tell you some
about my friend Stephen Moore. He tells me that if
inflation the CPI is that is lower than the than
the growth of personal income or gain an income, that
then that's when we stopped feeling the pinch and we

(36:44):
start feeling like we can buy more with what we have.
And but he said that, he said he had a
bit of a jaundiced eye, Steve saying, well, I don't
think that that's actually happening. I think you've said on
this show, and I just want to I think it
bears repeating tell us about how income is growing and
how and how it's outpacing inflation. I want to confirm
that that's the case, because I've had some people that
want to say that this is like.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
There's no doubt about it.

Speaker 6 (37:06):
You know, in fact, a month after a month after
a month, the inflation rate has been going up at
about two and a half to three percent, But wages
and salaries it has been going up at three to
four percent. And in fact that's true in the medium family.
It's not just rich people. It's not a case they
call the case shape for recovery. Some people going up
and some people don't know, almost every income group is

(37:27):
going up. And here it's almost a psychological problem when
I ask people about you because look, how about airline tickets, Oh,
they're going down on price. How about eggs, they're going
down on pace. How about motels those going they're going
down in price. How about FOURK chops those those are
running down in price? What about cell phones going down
in price? That what are the people talking about? Oh,
by the way, gas prices, they're going down in price.
But then they oh, but yeah, but what about stakes?

(37:50):
What about you know, housing, what about so people tend
to focus it's you know, it's just a kind of
a psychological problem. People focus on the things that are
going up in price, not the things that are going
down in price. But as the economy continues to boom forward,
it's harder and harder for people to say, Gee, these
are really tough times, and like, what the hell are

(38:10):
you talking about. I mean, we've got look at the
Christmas season shopping A trillion dollars was spent. These are
the same people say I can't afford anything.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Great, quick question, I'll let you put on your your
Genie hat on this one, Steve. Are we going to
see the market get above fifty thousand?

Speaker 6 (38:28):
Oh for sure. I mean the question, of course, is
when you know, I would say, I mean, we're knocking
on the door right, We're about forty nine thousand now,
the last time I checked. So it's going to happen.
And but you know, I think we could see by
the end of next year now sixty thousand.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
I think we should hold Steve to that prediction he's making. Steve,
thanks for joining us tonight, that at the end of
next year it could be a sixty thousand.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Well, when you asked him, when you asked him a
little break, that was a scoff I heard, like, of course.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Of course, what do you mean fifty thousand. Now it's
predicting sixty thousand at the end of this year.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah, I remember when hitting ten thousands a big deal.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
That sure was all right. More coming up it is
the Rod and Greg Show on Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine. Cannais I almost want to say, I'm
getting sick and tired of talking about Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Well, well, they don't go away, they don't. It's not
like we're repeating ourselves really. I mean, we are delving
into different aspects, different wrinkles of the disaster that state is.
It's fraud and all that. But now we have the
ice situation that's happening there and walls now calling out
or getting the National Guard ready to work with local
law enforcement. I'm assuming that means what against Ice agents.

(39:40):
I don't really know, but it might get fatigue. But
they don't give us a choice. I think we have
to cover what they're what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
But it's just I kind of want to say, you
guys are screwing it up, man, I'm just tired of
I think they should just become part of Canada, just
like Canada. We'll give Minnesota to Canada and we'll go
get Greenland. Perfect, that's a deal. Let's you and I
make that deal right now. We get Greenland, Canada, you
can have you can the Canucks can have Minnesota. Yeah,

(40:10):
they can take it. You ever been to Minnesota?

Speaker 2 (40:12):
I have, briefly. I don't remember how I got there.
I think I was on a trip and I was
never We were taking a cross country trip and we
weren't supposed to get to Minnesota, and I did the
same thing. We got to Minnesota somehow.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah, we had to re route through Minneapolis. I've never
been there. They called the Land of a Thousand Lakes.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
So my grandmother grew up there in Minneapolis.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Didnnesota.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Well, she loved it. She was a good swimmer, and
she like all these lakes. She just grew up in
the in the lakes, swimming every day of her life
as a kid, and she has fun memories of Minnesota.
I just don't think the state as she remembered it exists.
Today I met a guy, he's a friend of mine
from Minnesota. He's a He seems like a perfectly reasonable, healthy, normal,
normal human beings. So I don't know what he's doing

(40:54):
in that state. But I don't know that what that
he necessarily knows what he's doing in that state anymore.
But I just give it to Canada. I swear when
st and California should they keep bragging that they got
the eighth largest economy in the world. Well, good luck
to you, good luck to put taking her taxmen. Go
go run with whatever is you think you have.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Well here's a little bit more. This is on the
woman who was shot and killed by ice agents yesterday.
She tried to run over one of them. The former
brother in law of Renee Nicole Good, who was shot
in Minneapolis, says she should have minded her own business.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Well, she's isn't she out of state? She doesn't even
live in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
I think she moved there. She was Colorado and then
went there. The Daily Mail said that Good had three children.
That's what her brother in law had to say. She
had no reason to be there, in my opinion, he
said it had nothing to do with her. She shouldn't
have been in the area. She had nothing to do
with ICE agents or immigration, so she should not have

(41:53):
been there. Now, the story is in the New York
Post today that Renee Good was part of a I
Guess program called ice Watch, and they would report on
ice movements UH throughout that city. So she she was
actively involved in this.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Effort, she got paid for it. I think she was
a paid protest I could watch person. So it was
kind of a job for her as well, which you know,
working for NGOs, working to you know, to be to
create civil unrest. It's left of They've got a lot
of jobs for those things. I wonder if they report those.
I wonder those are part of our jobs report every quarter.
If that's under the table.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
What paid protester? Yeah, and wait a minute, I thought
she was a legal observer.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Paid legal observer, which you know is synonymous with someone
trying to create civil unders. We had a group of
this UH in Salt Lake City when they would do
when when the Inland Report was having its public hearings,
we had these lunatics that would come in and defecate
inside the inside the border. They would do it. They
did everything they could to stop the meeting from happening.
And come to find out they were funded from out

(42:57):
of state, and they were they were paid to be there,
and and that this is a common tactic of the
left again, they are a party of isolence. They they
do look for things to create chaos and unrest and
fear primarily fear is what they're after.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Yeah, well, there was there was a time, Greg when
Minnesota had its good moments. There was a time, right
if you think about it, who prints, Yeah, from Minnesota,
Purple range, purple rain. You know, Herb Brooks came from Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Coach of the US Olympic medal team.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
So there are some good things that came out of Minnesota.
But of late, I mean, you start with the whole
George Floyd thing. What was that five years ago? Now?
And now you've got the tip of the tip of
the fraud. This fraud thing is I think just beginning,
and I don't know. What I'm concerned about is that
nothing's going to happen, you know, you know, I don't know.

(43:51):
I'm just not confident that someone is going to be
held accountable for all of this.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
So Vice President Vance announced today that they have they
have assigned a new assist Attorney General who will who
will whose jurisdiction will be all of this fraud. It
won't be in a specific state, it won't be a
US attorney from a respective state, so that they're not
having multiple investigations going on at once. It at least
signals to me that there's an attempt to treat this

(44:17):
seriously and to really get their arms around as much
of it as the fraud as they can. But just
be prepared. I think Steven Moore brought this up easier
said than done. And let me tell you, there's a
lot of people on the receiving end of these billions
and billions of dollars. They're going to do everything in
their power to stop anyone from interrupting their their stream
of money from the federal government. And so they will
do like they did the Tessel takedown. They actually did

(44:39):
get Doge shut down. They were successful in stopping Elon Musk.
He's a hard guy to stop, but they did it.
What happens here is they as they get closer over
the target in terms of how this fraud is going on,
I think you're going to have a lot of leftists.
They're going to fight pretty hard to try and keep
that money. So it'll be it'll be tough. It will
be tough.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
It won't be an needs to prosecution. That's I'm just
wondering if there's anything good that has come out of
Minnesota in the last.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Five there wasn't Walter Mondale. I can tell you that
he wasn't claimed for one state. Walter Mondeal, forty nine. Reagan.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
All right, mar coming up the Rod and Gregg Show
on Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine O k
n RS.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah, So breaking news. Uh, two people have been shot
by US Customs and Border Patrol agents in Portland organ
as per the FBI. And I'm going to tell you
that this is they're the Left will sacrifice their supporters
to to try to create scenarios like this where they
are agitating and agitating in the public gets this false

(45:41):
perception that they can taunt law enforcement, they can disobey
orders from law enforcement, they can assault, hurl things at
and even assault law enforcement officers. And it's okay, now
here's the irony of that. I just saw a clip
from CNN where they brought up, in the light of
all of this, Ashley Babbitt, who was someone who had

(46:04):
trespassed into the Capitol on January sixth. I think she
was a member of the military or belief in the
air Force. Believe she was unarmed. Ye, she was instructed
to stop where she was going, you know, stop coming.
She still continued to go forward and she was shot
and killed. And you can hear the talking heads on
CNN make this very clear case. She was told to

(46:25):
she was instructed or commanded by law enforcement to stop,
and she disobeyed and kept approaching and was shot and
it was justifiable. They say that without any sense of irony,
without any sense of shame, that they that they don't
somehow believe that the person who's behind the wheel of
an SUV driving towards a member of law enforcement when
told to stop, is somehow murdered. But Ashley Babbitt was

(46:48):
just she didn't didn't obey. She was supposed to stop unarmed,
but didn't obey, and she it was justifiable. It's unreal,
the selective logic and selective outrage. We've just got to
track it so that we know they're not serious, that
it's just all manipulation, it's all just propaganda.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Well, we're starting to get some audio from the confrontation
that took place yesterday. You hear the officers say three
times to the woman who was shot and killed, get
out of the car, get out of the car, get
out of the f and car. She doesn't do it.
He reaches for the handle of the car. She won't
let him in, you know, and they keep on and
then she decides to back up and take off, and

(47:29):
that's when the unfortunate incident happened and an issue shot
and killed by an age agent who are an ice agent,
who I believe thought was about to get run over.
And he's been dragged by a car before, so he's
been injured before. He knows the weaponization of vehicles and
the impact he can have.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Yeah, and again you look at how the left just
fements this type of violence to how they want to
create fear, and they have been wanting these moments to
have happened a while ago. And I just think that again,
I don't think they'll be happy until they see the
riots begin, and that's what they're hoping will occur, because
whether it's true or not, and I hope it's not true.

(48:08):
But if people feel like because the regime media is
so good at always pinning it on the Republican, it's
always Donald Trump's fault, no matter what it's. If he
hadn't been enforcing federal immigration law, then none of this
would have happened, and it's all his fault. But the
fear of the response that comes and the violence that
the Left creates. It oftentimes gets thrown or the attention

(48:29):
gets directed at Trump to say stop doing what you're doing.
That's what happened to Elon Muskindge. They got the Tesla
takedown and all the violence got to a point where
he had to stop doing what he was doing, which
was finding all the fraud, waste, and abuse. I hope
that doesn't isn't the case here, but we have been
kind of predictable, and the left knows the tool is
available to them. It's not anyway if you were a

(48:51):
Republican and you just flipped parties, flipped issues, and you
behave the way they are. Just like Ashley Babbitt who's
murdered with no weapon. They they'll argue, no, that's does
They don't even blink, that's just that's she didn't obey
the police officer, so yeah she got SHOT's what are
you talking about?

Speaker 9 (49:06):
You know?

Speaker 1 (49:06):
I hope Greg many Americans realize the mess that Donald
Trump was given. Yeah, and he is trying to clean
this up. What do they ask to man? Maybe maybe
ten million people came into this country in the four
years that Joe Biden was the President of the United States.
No vetting. They came in and said asylum, and they said, okay,
show up in six months. Nobody's three to five years,

(49:29):
three five years to show up. You know, nobody showed up.
This is a mess that the Democrats created in this country,
one that I think they wanted to create. But the
American people in last year looked at Donald Trump. Donald
Trump pledge I'm going to clean this up, and they
voted for him because they're as sick and tired of
it as all of us are. And the American people said,

(49:51):
all right, Donald Trump, we we believe you. And look
what he has done. The people come across the border
on the southern border. It's down to a trickle.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
And he's asked Ice and their authority is to find
these people who are in this country illegally, who have
committed crimes. They were going after a so Somalian immigrant
into this country illegally, by the way, who was a pedophile. Yes,
that's what they were doing in Minnesota. Now we're supposed
to let him just run around the streets and enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
And here's the thing, you know, he got elected in
sixteen he talked about I'm going to build a wall
and make him pay for it. There was an immigration
problem then, but just this is how much the crisis,
how exponentially worse the crisis is today than in sixteen
when he was elected. In the four years of Biden,
they it was not illegal immigration as it had been
up till his term, where the border states and the

(50:46):
border counties of another country were feeling this illegal entry.
They had organized NGOs with buses and planes, and in
every state they had organizations that would place them in housing,
get them on public assistance. This was so comprehensive. This
isn't the same type of illegal immigration that past administrations

(51:08):
had ever had to grapple with. This was one of
the most coordinated efforts to get and put into every
state in the continental United States people that had entered
this country illegally, and they were wildly successful at it.
And that is that is the problem he is trying
to clean up right now. So the magnitude of it
is it's unrecognizable to passed immigration problems which were already

(51:29):
pretty bad. These were these problems where they were and
I was wondering back during Biden's term why are who's
coming up with these planes?

Speaker 9 (51:38):
Like?

Speaker 2 (51:38):
How is this happening? Then once you saw dog Show,
how much money these NGOs had, it all started to
in the.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Place, all right now when we come back Tom homel
ok Holman, of course, Tom Holman is the borders are
a voice of reason in this. We'll let you hear
what he had to say coming up right here on
the Rotting Greg Show in Utah's Talk Radio one five
nine knrs. Let's go of those talkback comments. By the way,
if you download it, Greg said, the iHeartRadio app and

(52:05):
then look for canter s and up in the right
hand corner. Once you find it, you'll see a little
red microphone. You click on that and you can leave
us a thirty second comment. Let's hear from one of
those listeners on our talk back line. Hey, Rod and Greg,
this is Dollan.

Speaker 10 (52:18):
I've been watching this and I just feel so helpless,
like I want to do something to help, but I
just feel like one like a if like protests aren't
helpful anymore except for if you're on the left. And
two I feel like if we do anything on the
right as a protest, that is just going to get
negative news. Media and not work out. So do you

(52:38):
have any suggestions on how we're supposed to react to
this and what we're supposed to.

Speaker 9 (52:42):
Do to help.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
I've got a couple of suggestions, Greg. First of all,
do not be afraid to speak up.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Don't be afraid to share your views with people. Do
so in a civil fashion. But you have a right
to say what you believe in the second point, and
I say this all the time, Greg, vote get these
people who you do not agree with out of office.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
I appreciate the caller and the and the question because
I think we do have an audience that has a
bias towards action. That's why I think they listen, you know,
at the end of the day, to just see what's
going on. Here's some commentary. I think these are proactive
people here in Utah. And so I love the question,
and I think he's right. I don't think protesting the
way the left does. I think it's political pageantry. I

(53:28):
think we're more serious. But I always say what you said.
I think that the left deploys fear. They don't want
they want you to you know, it's untoward to have
a different opinion than them. They can say all they want,
but you're not supposed to, I think in a very
respectful way. But I think it's it's absolutely appropriate to
share your feelings and share your thoughts if the topic
comes up. But I think that that our public policy,

(53:50):
but particularly our campaigns and elections. It is a participation
in sport. It is something that you need to get
right involved in, and I think it's it's it's very accessible.
I think there's this much to do, as you'd like
to do in terms of campaigns and elections and finding
people that you can actually have a conversation with so
that more of the grassroots, your state representative, your state senator,
your school board member, have those thoughtful conversations and hear

(54:12):
what they're saying. If you engage in that process, I've
never seen that someone regretting a boy that was the
way satire just got to know this candidate really well.
And you know, the more you get to know people
and have those ask hard questions, have engaged in that process,
you're going to have a good experience doing it.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
All Right, Let's hear from another little listener on our
talk back line.

Speaker 11 (54:33):
Walls is an idiot. There's this thing called title ten.
That's where the National Guard can be incorporated underneath the
umbrella of the DoD or, in this particular case, the
Department of War or Department of Homeland Security. It's a
no brainer. And if you don't think Trump would wouldn't

(54:54):
do that, then you're not thinking clearly.

Speaker 9 (54:57):
Because he's a chess player.

Speaker 12 (54:59):
Yeah he is.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Yeah. No, Well, I love our listeners because they're just
wicked smart, smarter than walls.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
We got one more comment on our talk backline.

Speaker 12 (55:11):
Hey, you guys, this is Loy I'm in Draper and
I'm listening to you guys talk about giving away Minnesota.
Before we do that, can we go rescue Joe Ingles,
Mike Conley and Rudy go fair before we give Minnesota
away to Canada. Have a great night.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Yes, I think you are so thoughtful to remember some
of the we they would have been prisoners, they'd have
been stuck in Canada, even asked to go there if
we gave it away too soon. We did need to
get those get those good, good players out of that state.
I'm the Minnesota Vikings. They need to change their mascot name.
I think they're the Minnesota Somalis. That's what I think

(55:52):
they are. That's what that's what they should be called.
Let's be honest what it is. Yeah, the the you know,
the warriors from the north, they are not.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
No, not anymore. All right, our three coming up as
you work your way home tonight, when we come back,
we'll talk about why DI has no place in the classroom.
Now what actually the White House was about to jake
in favor of you, mom and dad, And that's coming up.
Stay with us last couple of nights, Greg. About this time,

(56:24):
we've been talking about the state school Board of Education.
There's a member of the state school Board who just
ripped into the school board. She announced that she is
not going to seek reelection even though she has one
more year on her term on the state school board.
But a lot of issues, corruption, you name it. But
one issue she had is that the state school board
is not taking a strong enough stand on getting DEI

(56:46):
out of the classroom.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah, and we've had a long discussion about this, and
I think it's every parent's nightmare that, first off, the
DEI is in our curriculum in our classrooms. But second,
if you've see that your state legislature passes a bill,
you've been told it's it's to ban it from being there,
and you have a state board of education that creates
rules around that statute. And then you're told it's all pageantry,

(57:08):
it's not really happening, that's it's just discouraging. We've heard
different versions of that, but that is the worry that
and what we've heard. No matter what side you take
on this, whether it was pageantry or it's real, they
are still combating DEI in our classrooms in real time
right now this school year.

Speaker 9 (57:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Yeah, Well, joining us on our Newsmaker line to talk
more about this is Ryan Staley. Ryan is director of
research at Defending Education. He's written about this. He's on
our Newsmaker line right now. Ryan, how are you welcome
to the Rod and Greg Show. Thanks for joining us again.

Speaker 7 (57:38):
Yeah, guys, thanks for having me on. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Right Ryan, why do you write the U FEELDI is
no place in k through twelve classrooms? Why, in your opinion,
is it's so troublesome or even dangerous?

Speaker 7 (57:51):
You know, the basis of it is it starts off
with the idea that the Western culture in America is
deeply rooted racism and white supremacy. And and so I mean,
even if.

Speaker 9 (58:04):
They painted as diversity, equity and inclusion, the the idea
behind equity is that the system is racist and therefore
we have to make these do these race based things
in order to fix historical problems. And you know, to
put it bluntly, that's critical race theory. So when they

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you know, for years we've been told that CRT is
not in schools. They're not they're not doing it, and
yet it is a foundational ideology within the EI. And
and more importantly, it's teaching our young children that the
most important thing about them is their skin color and

(58:45):
that they can't they either if they're a minority they
can't make it in this culture because of their skin color,
or if they're more of the you know, the white background,
that they're overly privileged and their.

Speaker 7 (58:58):
Only successes are because of the system.

Speaker 9 (59:01):
Being racist against other people.

Speaker 7 (59:03):
And it's just absolutely disgusting that that we're treating our
young people that way.

Speaker 9 (59:08):
You know, I've worked in the K Twell schools for
a number of years. I've got you know, many members
of my family still there. And to say that the
kid I worked with in the urban, you know, low
income schools that it was their skin color as to
why they weren't being successful. Was is just beyond ridiculous.
It's really just it's destructive. It's destructive to our children,

(59:32):
number one and number two, it's destructive to our culture.
You know, it's we're seeing this manifest now, by the way, gentlemen,
on the streets of our country, since especially twenty twenty,
and we're now going to get a real dose of
what it's going to look like in practice in New
York City. As the people who are in charge the DSA,

(59:57):
that are you know, the Democratic socials of America there
in our schools, they have been influencing, whether as individuals
or corporately, a lot of the things that are being
taught in our schools.

Speaker 7 (01:00:09):
They've helped influence.

Speaker 9 (01:00:11):
That, and their ideology is become very permeating throughout the country.

Speaker 6 (01:00:17):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
The part that really bothers me is that I think
that it is the most bigoted, the most racist ideology
you can you could pursue or to advance to say
that it is your skin color, that that advance that
determines whether you're successful or not, what your aptitude would be,
your possibility of success. I've heard that you know, a

(01:00:38):
soft big low expectations is a form of soft bigotry.
I don't think it's soft. I think it's high and
in your face bigotry to say that someone's skin color
makes the difference. And my example is the way I
grew up. I was my mother was a single mother.
We were poor. I will tell you that household income
or the lack of impacts a lot of things. If
you're sitting in the dark and your mom works at
night and there's no power unction, you couldn't afford the bill,

(01:01:00):
there's no food in the kitchen, does it really matter
what color you are? According to the DEI people, it
makes all the difference. The white kid is somehow privileged
and much better, and the black child has no chance
just because they're black, not because of the circumstances that
they were born in or that they're living in. Isn't
that the racism we should be really calling out.

Speaker 9 (01:01:20):
It's very The bigotry part is absolutely a big piece
of it, and and it can come in many forms, right,
I mean, we've we've seen the bigotry in terms of
if you're not adhering to the pride LGBT ideology or
if you're not adhering to this this city, this this
race ideology, you know insert insert here, right, yeah, whatever

(01:01:42):
whatever that leftist ideology is. And it's it's rampant. We're
we're seeing, we're hearing anecdotes. I have yet to see
hard evidence, but I believe that people are not lying
to me that there's children that are being discriminated against
the as of their conservative values in schools, you know.

(01:02:03):
And I've worked with a lot of great teachers who
I believe would not be doing that.

Speaker 7 (01:02:10):
But I also know there's plenty of people out there
who are.

Speaker 9 (01:02:13):
I mean, look at what happened after Charlie Kirk and
how many teachers across the country openly under their name
on social media. We're celebrating it, you know, and and
a lot more than you would think, right, And so
it's it's very much in our schools.

Speaker 7 (01:02:31):
I mean, we even have districts.

Speaker 9 (01:02:32):
That have policies that very much pushed this this bigotry
as as a as a district wide policy, and and
and they sell it as well.

Speaker 7 (01:02:43):
But you got to think about the children. You got
to think about these children. How insulting is it to
a black family that.

Speaker 9 (01:02:49):
You're lowering expectations because they're there their skin color, you know,
I mean you were you drn to start off by
talking about the football game that's going on right now,
and how many of those young men on those teams,
regardless of race, got there because they worked their rear
ends off correct and how many and how many of them,

(01:03:13):
how many young men would love to be there but
never got there because they were in a place where
they had low expectations for their performance regardless of race, right.

Speaker 7 (01:03:24):
I mean, I spent twenty five years coaching from Division
one all the way down to sixth grade.

Speaker 9 (01:03:29):
And one of the best sports teams I ever had
was my a team of all black girls, and they
had wonderful parents, and I held them to the highest
of standards.

Speaker 7 (01:03:39):
And we went like forty and two in two.

Speaker 9 (01:03:42):
Seasons of junior high basketball. Guys, we were scoring twenty
points in two minutes because it was expectations and standards.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
I love it.

Speaker 7 (01:03:51):
And these girls they had fantastic parents, by the way, they.

Speaker 9 (01:03:55):
Were just well raised and well trained.

Speaker 7 (01:03:57):
Et cetera.

Speaker 9 (01:03:58):
So my point is is that it's it's not a
race thing. It's very much a bigotry and we have
these teachers in these education. Our whole system and that's
why I was getting at my op ed. The whole
system is just corrupted with this far left, you know,
cultural neo Marxist ideology, and they really do want the

(01:04:21):
children uneducated because Mao said this in the nineteen sixties.
He loved the idea of a blank slate with the
children because they were easier to write on. And all
of a sudden, you have the cultural revolution, right.

Speaker 7 (01:04:35):
And we see this.

Speaker 9 (01:04:37):
We see the students in the last year go with
teachers leaving classes to go protests against ice.

Speaker 7 (01:04:44):
And our students across the country have a thirty percent.

Speaker 9 (01:04:47):
Proficiency rate in math and reading, yet they're going out
to protest.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Yeah. And speaking of that, in Minnesota today they canceled
classes both today and tomorrow and Minnesota because of the
shooting involving non ice agent there you know the reason
behind it. Those kids aren't in any danger. They want
to get the teachers out so they can join the protest.
I mean that said, let me ask you this, Ryan,
how do you get we mentioned going into this that
we've got you know, uh, school board members who are

(01:05:13):
frustrated that yes, lawmakers have passed a bill measures on DEI.
But it's still in the classroom. How do you get
that poison out of the classroom.

Speaker 9 (01:05:23):
It is an entire ecosystem that we have to really
as a culture, we have to get after and we're
doing that at Defending ED. We've you know, incorporated in
the university level into what we do in the last year.
And you know it starts in the colleges of ED.
I mean they're training straight up training teachers across the
country to be number one social justice activists and then

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number two all this other gobbly book and so on
and so forth.

Speaker 7 (01:05:51):
So you have you have the university College of Education programs.

Speaker 9 (01:05:55):
But then you also have supporting groups. We wrote a
report before Chris this on the accreditation of social work
programs and they have eight of the nine competencies of
hundreds of university programs that have anti racism as a
core component.

Speaker 7 (01:06:14):
And so you have your.

Speaker 9 (01:06:15):
Your child social worker is steeped in this stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:06:19):
School counselors, same exact thing.

Speaker 9 (01:06:22):
So like when kids go for mental health issues, these
these people with their mental health are just locked into
the DEI. It's getting in that way.

Speaker 7 (01:06:32):
There's a school district in Oklahoma by the way.

Speaker 9 (01:06:34):
Where it's in the counselor's evaluation as to how they promote.

Speaker 7 (01:06:39):
Equity, right, so it's in the superintendenc evaluations, it is
coming from the accreditation both.

Speaker 9 (01:06:46):
K twelve and university. It's just being jammed down our throat.
And that's why I call it a revolutionary industrial complex,
because what you see in Minnesota and New York City
and the major cities where you have these far less
radical groups on the street funded by sometimes down the pipeline,
the CCP. That's part of this. And by the way,

(01:07:10):
some of the professors that are training teachers in the classrooms.

Speaker 7 (01:07:14):
Are the same people on the street protesting.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Pretty amazing, challenging story.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
For all of important information. Thank you for your work.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Brian, Thank you. We appreciate your time tonight and enjoy
the rest of the evening.

Speaker 7 (01:07:26):
Thanks guys, all right, Ryan.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Staley, director of research at Defending Education, talking about DEI
in the classroom. More coming up on the Rod and
Greg Show and Talk Radio one oh five nine. kN Arrus,
what do you think of the President wanted to get
a hold of Greenland.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
I love it. Look a lot of what he says,
it just throws it out there people react. He can
make people go into convulsions just from his comments, and
I think he knows that. But I think what he's
done is he pointed to Greenland soon after he was
elected in twenty four and he said there's a national
security issue there. He pointed to the Panama Canal, which
I'd never heard anyone really talk about and say, look,

(01:08:01):
we've got foreign adversaries that are controlling that critical waterway.
He did something about that, and we started to, I think,
have a deeper appreciation for the Western Hemisphere, or this
closer to home, and how we should be paying attention
to the encroachment of countries and areas around our home,
around the United States. They could pose a grave threat.

(01:08:21):
And so to the extent that he's talking about this
and keeping it on the front burner, I absolutely love it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Yeah. Well I didn't realize this Iceland, Greenland. You know
how big the population is, how big like sixty that's it,
that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Well, what are we waiting for? We just go get
that just I mean, who's stopping.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
A su Apparently some legal experts have looked at it,
and under apparently some Cold War agreement, we have every
right to go take it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Well, then let's go. Let's go. We'll go with them,
let's go with him. Let's let's let's broadcast the show
from our new our new territory. You go there, all right?
I still want to go to Alligator Alcatraz. I'm hoping
that's still open.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
I don't forgear about it. We haven't heard about that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
For a while. I've been wanting to go there.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
So we go to Greenland and.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
We could broadcast live from the capital city.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
You know, it is nuke there. You go and u uk.
I think it's very nuke or nuke sounds very uh, you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Know, very very very greenlandish. Yeah, sick, and it's cold,
and you would you wouldn't like. I wonder if they
golf on that island.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
I doubt it.

Speaker 6 (01:09:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
The only thing I know about Greenland is what I
watched in that TV series Vikings, and it didn't say
anything green there. I just saw a lot of rocks,
just looked very It looked like hard living. That's what
it looked like to me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
The President has said, hey, I can just take it over,
or I'll buy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
It, Oh like the Louisiana purchase. Why not?

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Yeah, but we got that for a dollar.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
No, we got it from more. I think we gave
the French mourn a buck for that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Really they ripped.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
They ripped on us for it too. They thought they
thought we were the suckers when we that's true, they laughed.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Yeah. Yeah, So the President wants to go after Greenland.
Some people are saying take it, why not?

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Like I said, I do think that the Monroe doctrine, yes,
which meant that we would protect ourselves in this in
this hemisphere in which are we our country is is
the Monroe doctrines turned into the Donroe doctrine.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Yeah, and it is part of Donroe.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
And Greenland would fit perfectly in the Donroe doctrine.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Apparently there are some strategic advantages and minerals on that
island that we could use.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
And there's also shipping lanes and things that if you
you don't want good things bad things being shipped in
or out, that's the way. That's a place to look from.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
Friend of mine and his family just got back from Iceland.
What do you go to Iceland for? And apparently they
found it fascinating.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Man, And I can think of a lot more places
to go than a place called Iceland. That just doesn't
even sound inviting to sounds.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Cold, especially right. You can have it all right, Moore.
Coming up, it is the Thursday edition of The Rod
and Greg Show and doc Radio one oh five nine
k n r S. The White House is apparently thinking
about an executive order. Boy do I support this one, Greg,
that would stop child protective services from taking children. I

(01:11:04):
can't believe they do this away from parents who refuse
to accept their child so called gender identity. How on
earth can they get away with doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
It's disturbing. And really, in those schools or states where
that could even happen, I promise you that they probably
those schools still require the parent to give permission for
a nurse to administer aspir to their child, but somehow
so permission still means something in most cases, but their gender.
That's a place where parents are separated from that. How

(01:11:34):
they're going to raise their children, or how they're gonna
let kids be kids until they get through those years.
It's absolute incredible. I can't believe we have to look
for an executive order to say that parents should be
able to raise their kids.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Yeah, well, let's dig into this a little bit more.
Joining us on our newsmaker line right now, as Alvin
Louis as president of Courage is a habit talking about this. Alvin,
how are you welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 13 (01:11:56):
Hey, I'm doing great, Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Guys, what exactly I didn't realize that Child Protective Services
could come in and take a child away from mom
and dad if mom and dad refuse to accept their
gender identity. How long has this been going on, Helvin?

Speaker 13 (01:12:12):
Probably for several years, several years depending on which state
you live in, But definitely CPS and in general has
been completely overtaken by the transgender cult and transgender ideology.
And the worst is that they really work hand in
glove with school counselors and social workers in K through twelve,
and those two professions, these school counselor school counseling and

(01:12:36):
the social workers are completely one hundred percent co opted
by the transgender cult. And it's coming through mental health.
This is in all schools, you know, even Utah, because
even Utah schools use the mental health guidelines from an
organization called the American School Counselor Association or ASCA as

(01:12:58):
this as we call them ASCA, and they are all
trained to keep transgender secrets from parents. Now, some states
like Utah, you know, try to pass bills to say,
you know, you're not allowed to do that, and then
some states pass bills to encourage that. But in either
case that the counselors are trained that way because they

(01:13:19):
believe that the parents are unsafe and abusive if they
don't agree to it, and that's how they're all trained. Now,
does that mean every school counselor is believes in it, No,
they don't. Err not everyone believes in it, But the
entire system is built to put a child on this
path and then keep the secrets from the parents. And
so where CPS gets involved, and we've seen many many

(01:13:42):
cases across the country, is that if the counselor deems
that the parents are unsafe, and that goes for any
parent who don't believe a child can be born in
the wrong body, which is of course ridiculous, there's no
such thing as a transchild, then CPS will come make
that visit. And at that point it's luck of the
draw if you get a you know, fairly reasonable agent

(01:14:04):
that visits and they can realize that you're not you know,
there's your home is not unsafe for the child, then
you're fine. But increasingly that is a high that is
a high, high dice role, and we shouldn't we, as
the Americans, should not have federal funding go to an

(01:14:24):
organization that at one point in time was a safety
net for children who were actually abused.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
You know, Alvin, here's what confuses me. I remember during
the Biden administration when this seemed to have a lot
more momentum, at least it was it seemed we were
becoming more aware of this, and it was very aggressive,
as you've mentioned, in terms of the infrastructure and how
people in schools, whether it's got the guidance counselors or
the teachers or whoever it may be, really pushing this
and hiding it from from parents. I saw these school

(01:14:51):
board hearings that were in places like I think it's
a what's it called the Inlandport Empire. It's an area
of outside of Los Angeles. It's a blue collar You
cannot look at that community and say there's a bunch
of Republicans, a bunch of right wing conservatives. And the
parents were coming to that school board livid when they
heard that it was in fact the school policy to
not let the let the parents know if their child

(01:15:14):
wanted to go by a different name or was identifying
with a different gender. And I started to thought. I
started to see, without regard to political affiliation, parents by
and large being upset about this. And then you see
the election in twenty four I was hoping that we
would be would that would have been a peek, And
we're now seeing this being dealt with. But we've even
had a state school board, remember here in Utah, on

(01:15:35):
the program, actually two of them on two different days
this week, saying that DEI still exists in our schools.
So my question, I guess, is are we seeing it
simmer down? Is common sense starting to prevail here, are
parents' voices being heard at all? Or are we in
as much trouble now as we have ever been? Oh?

Speaker 13 (01:15:54):
For sure, because I think the and we kind of
predicted this. Our courage is habit about maybe an October,
right before Trump had won, we had set you know,
obviously we want Trump to win.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
That's for sure.

Speaker 13 (01:16:07):
But the downside of Trump winning is that there's a
lot of parents who throw their hands up and go,
we won.

Speaker 6 (01:16:14):
Trump's going to fix everything.

Speaker 13 (01:16:16):
And that's for a lot of reasons, but it's really
a lack of understanding of how the federal government works
compared to the state. And so because Trump can only
give you the tools to fix things that that's all
you can do, and the parents need to take those
executive orders. They need to take, you know, some of
the things that he's done and really apply that pressure.

(01:16:37):
That's what happened the other way around when Biden was
in office, all the ideologues in schools kept pressuring all
the school boards to do exactly, you know, to bring
in all the transgender ideology and all the climate changes
them and all the BLM and DEI. So now the
system is completely baked, completely baked this stuff and every
every eal, every equal system in the K twelve, it's

(01:17:02):
trained that way. So when I say ecosystem, I mean
the teachers Union, the superintendent Association, the Principal Association, like
I mentioned, all the mental health, the all the mental
health apparatus, the librarians. They are all missionaries and your
children are their mission So they see themselves as these revolutionaries,

(01:17:27):
and so they know that they can buy their time
while Trump's in office. If parents don't do anything now
for the state, for the districts that we've been in
and we see the parents actually fight, then they can
turn things over. They can make a huge difference. But
it has to be at the parent level. And this

(01:17:48):
is why I a courage it to have it. We
never say we stand up for your children, but what
we do is we build tools and strategies to remind you,
the parents, that your power ultimately is in your hands.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
So that was my question, and I think you just
said the cheat code. Here the way to deal with this.
We don't throw up our hands and say we can't
get it fixed. It is parents staying highly, highly involved
and inserting themselves in this process, school board meetings, whatever
it may be, to make sure that they can. They
have the right to protect their own children. Is that right,
one hundred percent.

Speaker 13 (01:18:18):
It always has been, And you don't need you don't
need a state to pass parental rights bill. It's good
that a state kind of goes that way, but it's
it's it's it's largely just, you know, for a moral victory.
Don't ask the school boards for your permission, don't ask
state for your permission. You don't need permission from anyone
to direct the upbringing of your child. To protect your children.

(01:18:42):
That is your god given right. It's not your state
given right. So it is into constitution. That is your
constitutional right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
But beyond that it is your.

Speaker 13 (01:18:51):
God given right, whether you have the Constitution or not.
But so either way you know that this is where
we want parents to take that active role and not
take a hands off approach and wait for someone's thinking
President Trump or an Iowa to do something.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
Alvin, great conversation, Thank you for making aware us aware
of this, and good luck. Thank you, thank you so much.
All right on our newsmaker line. That's Alvin Louis. He
is president of Courage. Is a habit talking about this
White House wearing this executive action. I can't believe that
in this country today a government agency could come in

(01:19:27):
take your child away from you just because you refuse
to recognize their gender identity.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Well, and I loved what We can have executive actions,
we can have state laws whatever we want, but at
the end of the day, what we have and we
already have, is the fundamental right raise our children. But
that no government can take from us. And I think
that that's an important message. So we don't have to
wait for any kind of legal highst sign that we
can engage. Parents, need to engage grandparents. Everyone needs engage

(01:19:54):
for the protection of their kids right now.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
Yeah, so yeah, all right, We've got more coming up.
It is the Thursday of edition of The Rod and
Gregg Show on Talk Radio one oh five nine knrs.
A lot of talking California. Greg, Apparently they don't have
enough money. Yeah, they never will, they never will. But
Gavin Newsom is now proposing a wealth.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Tax and it's retroact, so you can't get you can't
escape before the taxman comes, because they're going to make
it a date from last year, so that if you
even leave the state, they're going to come to whatever
state you're living in with a tax bill.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
Well, apparently there are some very very rich tech people
in that state who are looking at this going we've
had enough. I mean a story today I found that
major companies, the owners of these companies like Netflix, WhatsApp,
the payment system Stripe, are among the latest looking to
leave the Golden State. And guess where they're headed.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Florida or Texas, Florida, there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
They're looking for these massive how much more can Florida handle?

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Well, you know, they don't have an income tax, state
income taxes. That's that's isn't that nice?

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
So I've lived if you lived in a state with
no income tax, I've lived in Texas and in Washington,
and it is wonderful.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
I've resided in Pennsylvania here.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
And they have state income text both. I've always said
we should get rid of ours. Well you disagree with me.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Well, I just think whatever, if you get rid of
it somewhere, then your sales tax, your proper tax, gonna
come up somewhere else. I mean it, it's like a
water balloon. But I'm not four taxes. I'm just saying
maybe three different plate sources is less oppressive than all
in one source.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
There is a new wrinkle tonight against the fraud involving
the somal Leads in Minnesota. You ready for this one, Yeah.
Federal officials are now investigating the long ignored shipping of
at least seven hundred million dollars in cash. Wow, that's
a lot of money. Buy somemall leagues in air travel
luggage out of the Minneapolis airport.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
I just don't here this story. I did it, But
here's I don't think it's legal to carry that much.
I think that's a giant red flag they're supposed to
to flag that. It means that the only way that
can be true is if the peace people at the
TSA and the employees of that airport in Minnesota, Minneapolis
are looking the other way or part of the of

(01:22:09):
the plan and profiting from it. Because I don't think
you can carry that much cash without it being confiscated.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
I would agree with you. There's got to be some
rule or regulation that doesn't allow that to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
Isn't there I think there is. I don't think you
can do that. So if it's being done, I don't
think it's an accident. I don't think you have sloppy
workers that aren't paying attention. I think it's worse than that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
Yeah. Well, apparently the story today is and this story
out of Breitbart Today that witnesses said the cash was
apparently legally flown out to Somalia and other countries, and
the TSA routinely flagged the money to their supervisors. The
cash and bundles of one million dollars or more packed
in passenger luggage and shown to airport security officials, but

(01:22:51):
apparently Biden officials did not try and investigate, surprise, or
do anything about it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Yeah, yeah, it's again, I just don't know where when
you looking the other way is not supposed to be
an ignorance is not an excuse. I mean you can't.
You can't just say well I didn't know or I
didn't care, I didn't pursue it. I think if things
are happening around you, that it's your responsibility to what's
the point in having TSA. What's the point in flagging
anything if it's not to address an issue that they're finding.

(01:23:18):
I mean, that's what they're supposed to do, and if
they don't do it, you better find out why. And
I don't think it's incompetence. I really don't.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
Well, let's to this great, I mean, let's the amount
of money. Minneapolis Travels alone had three hundred and forty
two million dollars in their luggage in twenty twenty four
and three hundred and forty nine million dollars in their
luggage in twenty twenty fives our money.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
Well, let me tell you something. I watched Miamivice. Okay,
I watched it when I was a kid, and I'm
rewatching all the episodes now because I love Miami Vice.
You put that kind of money, I've watched it on TV.
You put that money in an X ray machine in
Miami Vice. They're busting you, crocket tubs. They're coming right
down on you. They're not messing around. You wouldn't be
able to If you wouldn't be able to fly in
that kind of cash into a into an airport like that,

(01:24:03):
there's no way.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Or out of They'd be thinking, what's going on here?
At some suspicions here, I mean the agents flat Apparently
TSA agents flagged the FAA and transportation officials about this.
The Body administration, they didn't do a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
That's because Hillary Clinton was doing it herself, taking all
those millions for Iran, and they're like, well, you know,
we kind of know how that works. We understand.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
Yeah, so we know how that works. We sure do.
All right. Just a reminder, we advise you to come
join us at the show tomorrow. We'll be broadcasting live
from the mountin America Expo Center. Will be in the
exhibit where they're good friends that advance window products. I
think it's booths.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
You're gonna love going there. I'm telling you you're gonna
love it. You have ways to improve your quality of life, yes,
that you didn't even think of.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
And trends, yes, yeah, you want to be very trending.
All right, That does it for us, Head up, shoulders
back made. God bless you and your family and that
great country of ours. We'll be back tomorrow live from
the Salt Lake Home Show. Talk to you then,

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