The Rod and Greg Show: Trump's Threat on Iran; Effect of Ceasefire; Is Deportation Compassion?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If I'm going to be a wingman, I gotta be.
You're on your own bib Maverick, I gotta be Iceman, viper, cougar,
Hollywood gesture someone. But it ain't goose and we will
explain later. But I have I've been I've learned a
little bit about proper vernacular of our Warrior jet fighters.
And I might have been miss misusing the vernacular. I

(00:20):
might have been saying it wrong. That might have been
I have been wrong all this time. Interesting, interesting story
to share.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, well, we want to thank our listener Ken, who
is a fighter pilot himself or was was, and he
sent us a very lengthy email today explaining, you know,
wingman and weapons systems officers and kind of schooled us.
We kind of went to flight school today.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
We did go, and I'll tell you what, Yeah, I learned.
I don't sit behind you. If I'm a wing man.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
You're a wing man, you're off to my right or
left four.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Thousand feet or six thousand. I don't want to get
blown up if you get blown up, that's what he
pointed out. Bandits come blow up with you. I don't
want to get blown up, but I can watch your
six I.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Got you, Yeah, you got you got my bag.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
But for my sorry and six thousand feet. I don't
even know if I can sit in the studio, you know,
because that's when we're in combat. See, if we weren't
in combat, we can get all cozy, but we this
show's all combat. Yeah, this is a combat sport.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
You're not sitting near me. Would not bother me.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Remote broadcast, remote would would be just fine.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
And it's so good to be with you on this
Wednesday afternoon. We've got a lot to talk about. You know,
you've heard the term a fog of war, right. I
wonder if we're in the fog of peace now because
everybody's trying to figure out what this ceatsfire is, what
it's doing. I'm not sure. Maybe it'll take a couple
of days to figure out. Great, but we're all talking
about that because you know, the American people are saying, okay,

(01:41):
what is going on here? And Donald Trump, you know,
he has to hold things close to the vest I
understand that with what's going on, but boy, we're getting
all kinds of mixed messages from all over the place.
So I'm not sure what is going on in that
battle with Iran.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Well, look, that deadline was I think a very serious deadline.
It was, it was approaching it would have been six
o'clock mountain time, and if there wasn't anything that looked
like it was progress, that there was going to be
a massive launch. And I don't think that the President
was bluffing at all. What they were able to say
or assure the president to delay that, it's one thing

(02:16):
to say it, it's another thing to see it roll
out as planned. And maybe it is the case that
what was described to the president yesterday that where he
held off, that is not really aligning or comporting with
how things are following up the next day. That's the question.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Well, you and I were talking about yesterday you can't
trust the Iranians. You just you can't trust them.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Their argument today because they did fire some missiles. We
were watching this last night into Israel and near Tel Aviv.
They were saying that that is through in response to
what Israel did to Hesbelah in Lebanon. And apparently Israel
and Hesbela or Lebanon are not part of the seats fire.
So apparently the Iranians felt they could go ahead and

(03:00):
some more missiles toward.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Israel, and this morning, I thought, and I think we
have some clips of General Kine and describing some of
the aspects of the of the war, the war efforts
so far. But when they asked UH Secretary heg Seth
about the continued bombing that seemed to happen after this
ceasefire had been agreed upon, what Secretary Hegsas said is that, well,

(03:23):
they have all they have left the Iranians' courier pigeon
to get to the outskirts of their military to let
them know pigeons the status of things. And what he
was trying to say is that we've taken out their
communications ability, so there it's going to take them inherently
longer to get the message out. And he said that
they were closely monitoring those those bombings or what was

(03:44):
going on at the time, and it sounded like he
chalked that up to their Iran's inability to communicate quickly,
so there was going to be a lag time inherent
to us.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
He's fire, Yeah, yeah, well, and I think another fact
of this coming into this discussion now, Greg And I'm
not sure if he Ron realized what they had with
the straight or horror moves, because by controlling that, they
can cause economic chaos throughout the world. And I'm not
sure if they knew by shutting that down it would

(04:12):
cause as many problems as it has now. And again
today we're getting conflicting reports coming out of there. You know,
you have them basically saying two ships got through today,
but the President says it's open. So I'm not sure
where we're going to go with that, but that I
just wonder if Iran has come to they like we said,
they don't have a navy, they don't have an air force,

(04:33):
they haven't got much left, but they do have the
straight of horror moves. And if they and that's what
I'm saying, how are they controlling that? If it is
so critical to the world and economy, why don't we
just go in and take control of it.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
They don't. I would assume a navy is how you blockade.
You create a blockade in a strait, Yeah, straight of hormos.
If you don't have the navy, then I don't know
how they're I know they can lay the minds and
things like that, but I don't know. I in in
what you called the fog of war and all the
different information we're getting, and sometimes it's on purpose to
confuse Iran of what what we're reporting, what we know,

(05:10):
how we frame it. I get all that, but I
don't know how that Iran has any ability to block
anything if they are a near destruction right now in
terms of how much of their military apparatus has been
taken out. I've heard before this agreement was done, or
even the threat that they were going to make it,
you know, they're going to bomb them out into oblivion,
that they were repairing and building being able to re

(05:32):
re arm quickly. That was one of the things that
they were working on when when things were getting destroyed.
I I don't know. It leaves you with because this
morning there was such an aspirational message from presidents it's
open commerce is going to occur. We could see a
great you know, you know, a great prosperous time in
the Middle East because we're going to get this right.

(05:54):
So he was feeling good, he was promising great results.
He thought it was going to be a very good
day today compared to the past. But then by the
time we get on the program, we're hearing from different sources,
you know, from Iran, but even from from within the
United States that even our oil companies to say, wait,
we got to pay Iran to go through this charge

(06:14):
to go through We didn't get to do that before.
I thought we won this one. So you know now,
so we're not hearing that it's as clean or as
as advertised yesterday. But I'll just say this, if they
double crossed Donald Trump, I don't have to worry about
that because I know how that will end for them.
I really do. I don't think nobody's telling Trump what
to do. Nobody's gonna deceive him. He has been suspicious

(06:37):
from day one in nineteen eighty one. He was criticizing
Iran and knew that this whole area was a problem.
So they're not going to get over on him. They
might have and yesterday, and in his desire to have
peace versus war, he might have been inclined to believe
if they've double crossed him, or or acted in a
way that is different than what they committed to, there
will be a response. I don't have any I trust

(07:00):
President well. The straight of horror moves I learned today
as well.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Greg. There's a graphic put up I think on Fox
News this morning. Right now in the Persian Gulf, there
are one hundred and seventy two tankers that are sitting
there that can't get through the strait right now, and
they are holding seventeen million barrels of oil. So you
can see how critical this is to the international economy.
So we'll see what happens, but that is a sticking

(07:24):
point right now. And I'm with you, Greg, when you're
talking about this cease fire. First of all, the President announced, well,
Caroline Levin announced today that Vice President Vance is going
to join Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner in the in
the meetings with Iran in Pakistan. I think it's going
to take place on Friday. But you know, we're gonna
have to figure out this. And I'm with you, how

(07:45):
can they control it? Why can't we just get in
there and take it over? Yeah, what's throwing us as well?
So we've got a lot to talk about. We're all
talk about that. We're all talk about oil. You know,
good news yesterday oil did come down, you know, much
further what's going to hold it up? We'll get an
analysis of that a little bit later on. Got a
lot of other things to talk about and we invite

(08:07):
you to be a part of the program as well.
It is the Rotting Gregg Show on this wing Man Wednesday,
or maybe we should call it Weapons Systems Officers Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
When yea if I'm Goose with Weapons Systems Operator or
not the wind Man. So you know this has thrown
this special Wednesday edition up in the air a little.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, yeah, we may have to rename it, or.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
I might not Iceman. I can live with being a
wing man. Yeah, you can be Iceman instead of Goose.
Yeah that sounds tougher' you'd be happy with that, all right.
A lot to get to today here on the Rotten
Gregg Show. If you want to be a part of
the discussion eighty eight eight five seven o eight zero
one zero, or on your cell phone dial pound two
fifty and say, hey, rot I always know that the Iranian,
at least that regime. I know they're lying. They have

(08:49):
a tell. I can see the lips move. Yeah, so
I know that. I know they're full of it. I
don't trust a word they say.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
And said, well, let's get more insight into what's going
on right now. Our good friend Charles Lipson, he has
a country to the Spectator. He's joining us on our
any hour Newsmaker line right now. Charles, how are you
welcome back to the show.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
I'm doing well and all I can do is endorse
your viewpoint.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Thank you, Charles. Charles, take a look at the situation.
What do you think is going on here? Right now?
You've got this and this and that and that, all
kinds of reports out there. What do you think is
going on?

Speaker 5 (09:26):
There are two possibilities, and it's hard to differentiate between them.
One is that the people who made the deal aren't
really in charge, so that other people are who didn't
want the deal are really violating it. The other is
that the Iranians are just doing what they always do,

(09:47):
which is saying they agreed to one thing and then
not sticking to the bargain. I think the real hard
issue now is how President Trump responds, and my hunch
is that he'll have to respond in a very forceful way.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
So you know what you called this. I'm reading a
column that you authored on Monday. We're sitting here on Wednesday,
and you were you You said that you didn't think
whatever if they could find something by way of words
or agreements that would persuade the president to not bomb
as he had planned to at six pm Mountain time

(10:25):
eight pm Eastern. That you are very, very skeptical that
whatever those words are, whatever that agreement said, the Iranians
had any intention or ability to be able to pull off.
Either they were talking to the people that couldn't convince
those inside their own government to do it, or they
were just flat out lying. It sounds like, after we've
seen what's happened today, what you said was quite prophetic

(10:48):
to your point of something has to be done. Is
that a does he go back to what he was
about to do yesterday at six pm Mountain time or
is there something in the middle between what was agreed
upon and but he was What the consequence would be
if they didn't have an agreement.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
It's a hard decision, my hunch, and this is just
a prediction. Let me just say one thing about predicting
about President trumpsident. One of President Trump's great strengths as
a negotiator is that he keeps people on the wrong foot.
It's very hard to predict what he's going to do.
That's a strength, not a weakness in these kind of negotiations.

(11:29):
My own hunch is that he will hit them and
hit them hard and say we thought we had an agreement.
But what we've seen since the agreement, so called agreement
was put in place, was they were supposed to open
up the straits of horror MOUs.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
They didn't.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
They claimed Israel was supposed to not attack in Lebanon,
and why Lebanon was part of this deal at all
is perplexing. But the Americans have stated clearly that was
never part of the deal. We never agreed to that.

(12:11):
And how the Americans could agree to that when the
is when it's an Israeli action, is beyond me. But
the Pakistanis are now saying, oh, I think it was
part of the agreement. It looks like if they're going
to end up siding with the Iranians, they're not going
to be a mediator for much longer. But my hunch

(12:33):
is that my hunch is that this is this agreement
is not just back where we were a day before.
It's really going to be hard to put Humpty Dumpty
back together again after this mess.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, Charles, let me ask you, why don't we just
go in and take over the straight of horm moves?
Wh why not go in and take it over. Is
it that difficult? I mean, we the Iranians obviously have
seen our military strength and ingenuity. Why not just go
in and take it over.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
Well, the problem is it is so close to Iranian
territory that a missile fired from any place in Iran
could take out one ship, and one ship might be enough.
There was a rock and roll song when I was
a kid called ninety nine and a half just won't do.

(13:25):
You've got to have one hundred, and that's going to
be the problem. This is not like they're firing these
missiles over a long distance. By the way, the Iranians
have been attacking all the Gulf states today. They have
been firing at all of them, and they attacked the
saudist a pipeline that goes over to the Red Sea.

(13:48):
So the Iranians, as best I can tell, either the
people who made the agreement didn't have the authority to
make the agreement, or they were just lying all.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Along, or both. Yeah, could be Charles. As always, we
enjoy your insight, Thank you, and enjoy the rest of
the day.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
I appreciate your saying that I look forward to our
next chat, right.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
You, Charles Lips and joining us on our newsmaker line.
A contributor to The Spectator, Greg, I have I just
have this sinky, the sneaky suspicion they're never going to
agree to anything and we cannot trust them.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
I think that is the state of play here. And
so I think that they gave they gave this piece,
you know process, you know, the college try. I think
they've tried. I think now you got to just finish
this job. I think we're what ninety yards of one
hundred yard drive, You're right there, it seems like it.
So I just think you have to, you know, I

(14:41):
just think you have to, as you said, secure that
straight on your own, without without depending on Iran for one,
that regime for one single solitary thing, and make sure
you've taken them out to the degree where they can't
fire those missiles from the land. That at least answers
my question about if they have no navy, what is it. Well,
it could be from.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
In ninety nine point nine percent of the time. I
agree with the president, but there has been talked that
he'd agree with a kind of a partnership with Iron
to control the straight uh them romoves all right, more
coming up. It is the Rot and Gregg Show on
This Wingman Wednesday in Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Okay,
all right, is it open? Is it not open? Our
ship's getting through? What is going on? We just don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
John Solomon's a veteran investigative reporter. You happened to know him.
We met him when we were, you know, at the
National Republican Convention and they were reporting that. You know,
Trump says it's unacceptable if Iran's not opening it. But
I thought they should be out there seeing that themselves.
Reports shouldn't matter.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, Well, with news of a ceasefire yesterday, the price
of oil dropped. How long is it going to last?
What about the price of gasoline at the pump? Gas
here in Utah went up? I think three cents per
gallon today. So what is going to happen? That's the
question on everybody's mind. And we turned to Jay Young.
He is founder and CEO of King Operating Corporation. Jay,

(15:58):
how are you? You've been in this business long time? Jay?
What do you make of gasoline and the price of
oil and where it may or may not be going
anytime soon?

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Great?

Speaker 6 (16:08):
Hey, thanks for having me on again. Appreciate you guys,
And I'll tell you what I see. That oil prices,
you know, did come down a lot obviously last night
when they said that, you know, the strain of Remose
is open for business and.

Speaker 7 (16:22):
We can get oil through there.

Speaker 6 (16:24):
But I'm really not seeing, you know, I thought prices
would be a lot higher going into this. So when
they're gonna come down, they're coming down, but they're not
gonna come down a lot. And what I mean by
that is is it's not like it's going to go
back down to fifty five dollars a barrel like it
was in December this year.

Speaker 8 (16:46):
And you're not gonna be paying you know, I've paid.

Speaker 6 (16:48):
A dollar ninety two, you know for gasoline up in
Oklahoma in December this year. You're not gonna be paying
that anytime soon. The reason why is because there's been
so much of a of a shortage because of the
Strait of Remose and what's going on and what has
Countries have been shutting wells in for a month, five weeks.

Speaker 8 (17:13):
And when you shut wells in like.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
That, you shut them in because you can't go anywhere
with the oil because it's clogged up. So what's happening
is they're shutting the wells in. They're having to turn
them back on once they feel comfortable. I don't even
know if they feel comfortable yet or not. I didn't
see any videos today, but I heard earlier there was
any tinkers going through. But there was some There was

(17:36):
some activity, but not like business as usual. But you know,
but they don't shut those They shut these wells in
because if you're producing two million barrels a day, you know,
like like you know, Iraq, you're producing two three million
barrels today, Saudi Arabia the same, and you can't sell it.
You're you don't have the capacity to continue producing, so

(17:59):
you shut your wells in, and that that almost been
taken off the market. So that's literally over two hundred
million barrels of oil that we're short the world's supply,
and we're gonna have to We're gonna have to make
that up somewhere somehow, and then you're gonna turn on
these wells that have been shut in for a while.

Speaker 8 (18:18):
And it's not pretty.

Speaker 6 (18:19):
It's you know, oil wells don't come on, especially all
wells don't come.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
On like they did before.

Speaker 6 (18:25):
They're high pressure, there's there's liquid, there's down all motors,
there's all kinds of equipment, and I don't think they
come on anywhere close to what they did. So only
gas goes up and down because of supplying the man,
we're not going to have the supply that we did
before the war.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
It's like we were close.

Speaker 6 (18:46):
I see eighty dollars oil, you know, maybe seventy five.

Speaker 8 (18:51):
To eighty dollars oil when everything's comes.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Back to normal.

Speaker 6 (18:55):
If it does in two weeks, you know, that's the
big question, is what's gonna happ it in two weeks.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, yeah, So, Jay, you know, you've got an impressive
background on this, your fourth your four generations in the
oil and gas industry. You're an author, you have a
podcast that goes over these issues. My question is one
of the things that I read, and it's funny because
I guess executives from the oil and gas industry would
like to remain anonymous, maybe not to upset the president,

(19:21):
but they were surprised to see that end this deal
that was struck at the eleventh hour yesterday that I
ran would be able to charge some kind of surcharge
to be able to go through the straight, which the
oil and gas industry was not expecting, with the obvious
question being I thought we won this war. I thought
we were winning this Why would we pay something we
didn't have to pay before? Does that have a chilling effect?

(19:43):
Does that have a does that impact supply beyond the
question of how much is getting through there today? And
if I ran as following their agreement, what about this
surcharge that they're supposed to be able to levy. Now,
where does that sit with the industry?

Speaker 6 (19:58):
Yeah, I mean that's that today. I think on newsback
about the same same question. You know, it's it's about
dollars and cents, but at the at the and that's
why you have the contracts for futures you know, next two, three,
four months, you know, are are lower than what the

(20:19):
price is today. Why because there's this backwardation that that
you have with the with the cost and there's so
much disruption in the supply to trying.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
To get back to normal. If there is a normal,
and the normal is one.

Speaker 6 (20:35):
Hundred million barrels a day throughout the world, twenty percent
goes through the trade of removes. Everything flows fine, and
you don't have these big search charges. I think they
were making like two million dollars a taker and there's
like two hundred takers. I mean they're making some bucks.
I mean everybody's got their handouts. Audi Arabia's lost. Don't

(20:56):
tell me how much money over the past you know,
four or five in weeks. Because they ninety percent of
income comes from shipping oil from the post Persian Gulf
down the street into China, Japan, India and selling off.
They haven't been able to do it. So there's a
lot of very very mad people right now that have

(21:19):
gone with zero income and it was they normally make.
I don't know off the top of my head how
much you know, two million barrels times one hundred times
thirty days is, but I'm I'm assuming it's a lot.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
That's a lot of money. That's I'm.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
Jay.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
We appreciate your input and your insight into all of this.
Thank you for joining in us afternoon, and we'll keep
our fingers crossed that something happens soon.

Speaker 8 (21:44):
Thank you, Jay, Absolutely all right, Jared coming with you anytime.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
All right. Jay Young, founder and CEO of King Operating Corporation,
here on the Roden greg Show in Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five nine k n RN coming up in
the five o'clock hour. We had quite a discuss on
this today in our morning meeting, where we were talking about,
you know, many of the now people will argue there's
not a lot of good going on in this country,
but there have been some amazing achievements over the past

(22:10):
year and a half. What's taking place in this country?
You know, we have talked about, you know, going to
the moon again. What's taking place, you know, things we're with,
the economy, we're good up until recently. So why are
we celebrating and we're getting ready for a two hundred
and fiftieth birthday and I see no excitement around the
country about what we're about to remember.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
You know, this is the thing I think if you
look at just the events that have happened. You take
the last Olympics and winning the gold, You take this
artemisk too, going around, going further than any human beings
have ever traveled away from planet Earth. The celebration there,
two hundred and fifty year celebration, Everything to me feels muted.
Everything feels like it's just barely being acknowledged or recognized

(22:57):
or celebrated in ways that I've seen, you know, you know,
space exploration or Olympic golds or you know, just these
achievements or even the retrieval of these these pilots. I
do not see the collective celebration I've seen in the past.
And I got to tell you, I think it's all
because this regime media hates Trump so much they will

(23:17):
not recognize one American victory collective victory because of him,
which you know, it's there's so much to be celebrating
right now where everything doesn't have to be negative.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, one story I wanted to bring up. We mentioned,
we talked about this briefly in the media. I guess
you call this toilet paper terrorism. It is apparently a
disgruntled warehouse worker in Ontario, California. Apparently Kimberlee Clark has
large warehouse there and they store, you know, they wearhouse
a lot of toilet paper. Yes, he set it on fire.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
This oursonist. This should be capital punishment. This this right here.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
He set it on fire.

Speaker 6 (23:55):
Man.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
I got to tell you, I am so worried about
this whole run on toilet paper thing that society seems
to just gravitate to anytime anything looks weird. Just if
you go back to that artemist trip, if that, if that,
if that spaceship did not come back around the dark
side of the Moon as planned and all of a
sudden just didn't. I was afraid that everybody would panic
and you wouldn't have toilet paper a day later. Okay,

(24:17):
I mean I just think everybody would just be so
freaked out by that. So we get past that, it
comes across as planned, and then you find this arsonist
is taken out three percent of the toilet paper inventory
on the West Coast. And I'm gonna tell you know what,
people are gonna do that information they're running, They're running
to the supermarket that we're going to clear out all
the shelves. We're gonna have no TP because this guy,

(24:38):
this criminal went and did this. This should be, this
should be they should be at least considering the death penalty,
if not, you know, sentencing.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah. Well, what he was saying is if you would
have paid me enough, I wouldn't have done this. Yeah,
that was his beef. I'm gonna tell you what, I'm
just going back to COVID days. Remember the runs you
had on toilet paper and paper towels. It was kind
of like he's still not over this.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Okay, she's still over to get some food, get some supplies,
get some toilet paper. It was crazy. It was absolutely crazy.
I'm telling you news like this people will be irrational
about it. People are rational about toilet paper. They are
well as soon as some good reason, you know, forget
the food storage, forget you know, self defense and an AMMO,

(25:21):
get to the toilet paper, get there right away. I
mean that's where everyone goes.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Terrorism TP terrorism big warehouse down in Ontario, California. The
guy lit it up. Man, it basically wiped it out.
So three percent of the toilet paper in California came from.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
In the West, in the West States.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, it's not good not good news.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
But everybody, we aren't encouraging to run on TP. Please
don't don't do it. Not necessary to building round.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Person starts sprinting, Everyone starts sprinting. Just as soon as
they see it, they run to just walk. Just be calm.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
There's plenty out there, there is. We don't need to
run on it.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Please, I'm we beach right now getting it all. Don't
worry about her. She's all for us.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
She taken care of all right, when we come back
our number two of the Roddy and Greg Show on
Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine, kN Or asked,
the question is why aren't we celebrating that's coming up?

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Weapons Systems Operator Opera. Yeah, that's what I Yeah, we
were school today. We should bring people up to speed
if they're just joining us. We had a listener he's
a you know, a retired fighter pilot, but he correct
it kind of took us to school on the the
vernacular we should use while we're talking about wingman Wednesday,
because you are not a wingman. No, no, you you

(26:37):
have identified yourself as a wingman, but you are.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
We better revisit this, and we may need the collective
will of our listeners to tell us where to go
from here, because I don't know that, uh, the Weapons
Systems Operator Wednesday really rolls off the today side, So
we might have to revisit what it is that we
are on Wednesdays. However, I loved, loved love this email
for a couple of reasons. One that we got a
we got a retired warrior that is a regular listener

(27:04):
to the show.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Where I am very proud of this is.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
A man who in the eighties flu A tens and
in the nineties flu F sixteen's. And he's a colonel.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, okay, big dude, he's a man.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
And what he said to my question yesterday of what's
a colonel doing as a weapons you know, a system operator?
Uh in a in a plane to gets shot down?
Isn't he a little high up there in rank? And
the answer back and confirmed by our listener, was, when
you've been through this training, when you've done this, when
you've you would give anything to go back. You are
a trained warrior, and it would be an honor and

(27:36):
something that you go through the escape and evasion training,
you all, they do all these things, it would you
couldn't keep them away if they had any kind of
chance at all. And so we've had that confirmed by
our listeners. But here's the interesting part, and you know
he I love is if this is his call sign,
it's I mean, it's called him the Zeus. If that's
your call sign, man, I can't believe. I can only

(27:58):
think of the destruction this may was able to deliver.
So the bad guys and as he calls the bandits
in his f sexs, Yeah, so and is a ten.
But anyway, here's the deal. He says that I am
if I'm going to call myself Goose, then I am
not a wingman, because a wingman is a separate pilot
that is watching the wings of the other pilot. They're

(28:19):
kind of they're kind of watching each other. You're four
to six thousand feet apart. You don't want to be
too close because if one blows up, it could hit
the other one. So you got to stay far away.
You got to watch each other six I don't know
if everybody knows what that means, but that means watch
your back, okay, because I kind of know that. I'm
kind of I'm kind of up on the jargon, but
you'd stay that far away. And then he says that

(28:40):
if you're not, if you're not no actual wingman, then
you are that weapons system's operator, which is kind of
how I always thought it was Goose. I always thought
that Goose was kind of the wing man. I had
it all wrong.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
So well, we've been schooled, we have, we have, we've
been taking a flight school today.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Part of me thinks I am your wing man, that
I watch your back. I got it, I'm here. But
I'm certainly not four to six thousand feet away from you,
so you know I'm kind of close. So maybe I am.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Well doing your radio show. It's not as dangerous its
flying a fighter jet.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, So what do we do? Am I a weapons
Am I goose?

Speaker 9 (29:15):
And?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Am I the weapon systems? Uh operator? Or am I
the wingman?

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Like the way you portray it, the way you've been
thinking about it right now, you're a You're a w
s O.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
You're not so name this? Then? What is this Wednesday?

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Ws O? Wednesday?

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Oh, she just doesn't have the same pana. She doesn't
have a flare. It doesn't Well, we'll just stay with
wingman or you know, I'm always open. We have we
have fun Day Friday because a listener came up with
that term. I love that.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
One Funday Friday wingman Wednesday?

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Well, what's the what's the Wednesday?

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Now? Ws O? Wednesday? Didn't It doesn't do much for you?
It does neither Whizzle there we go whizzle Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
I don't get whizzo? What's that weapons system widow Wednesday?

Speaker 6 (30:00):
You know?

Speaker 1 (30:00):
No, people, Actually I found a negative thing when I
heard whisso I was I thought was I had a
different thought. Yeah, wso, yeah you did.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
All right. We've been talking about this for a couple
of days and I thought we'd bring it and have
a discussion on it. Today we are what about three
four months away from a huge celebration in this country.
We'll be two hundred and fifty years old. Okay, huge celebration.
I remember, well we turned two hundred. I do too,
remember I remember seventeen seventy six. You know, this country

(30:33):
went't crazy. I don't get the same buzz this time
that we had then. And I'm trying to figure out why.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
We had logos. We had the stations, the networks had
logos of bi centennial. We had commercials that wrapped their
entire message around the celebration. Everything was about the bi centennials. Everything. Yeah,
and you couldn't You couldn't swing a dead cat and
not hit a bi centennial celebration. You get to two
hundred and fifty years, there's discussion, but it just it

(31:01):
is muted by comparison, and I think easily it's easy
to spot. But then you take you know, you win goal,
you win that hockey goal against Canada, which has been
winning it forever, which is a huge and the way
they won it, and overtime it's such a heroic win.
It's such a happy time. You look at the space trace. Really,
I think, really what energized the country was JFK. It

(31:22):
wasn't a partisan thing. It was JFK started the race.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Challenge, challenge, challenge, we all have the.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
First man on the Moon, which we did in July
of sixty nine. There was a lot of pride and
a lot of excitement by Americans without regard to party
affiliation for that. So we had that going on. You
have this heroic story of this and I remember when
these other pilots had been head crashed like this. The
gentleman what's his name, Grady? What was it?

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (31:48):
He was I remember him being on It was around Bosnia.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
And last name was Great.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
I think so he when he was shot down. You know,
it took a week to get to him, but everybody
was so excited that he was back and that he
had been saved that they rescued him. I do not
hear it. I don't. I don't see the celebrations. I
don't see the moments that we collectively are celebrating together.
I don't, And I'm saying is it because there's people

(32:18):
out there that if Trump's on the clock, they just
can't get excited.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yeah, well I remember, Greg, and I'm older than you are,
wiser as well, But I remember the world stopped when
Neil Armstrong stepped on the moon. The world stopped. Yes,
everybody was watching this moment. Now you know now Artaments
two didn't land on the moon, but it went farther
out than anybody ever.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Has, and it went on dark side of It went
on the dark side of the moon. We're watching our closset. Okay,
let's see if it comes around the other side.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Have we lost with everything that this country has done
and the world has seen, have we lost the wow factor?
Have we become jading?

Speaker 6 (32:55):
Eh?

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Not a big deal. Been there done that?

Speaker 1 (32:58):
You know, I didn't bring about it. I would love
toology improving. You just can't impress us anymore.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Someone like that.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
There's credible sources that say that there are really aliens,
and we're like whatever, I don't know, you know, it
makes sense to.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Me, but we we you know, we've achieved a lot
over and I'm not saying just in the last year,
Over the last several years, there's no celebration. And I
go back to what you say, I think half the
country hates Donald Trump. Okay, are those who voted against
him do? And I think because of that, anything they
cheer that is good for America is kind of in
a way cheering for Trump and they just can't bring

(33:31):
themselves to do that.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
They can well, they were critical. I mean you can
just take yesterday's big deadline that came and the Neverses
announced agreement. There was this a lot of criticism paid
to what he said and what he threatened the United
States was prepared to do, and it was, you know,
he was just being disparaged quite thoroughly. When this agreement came,
they immediately pivoted from boy, is he going to start

(33:54):
a giant war? And you know, and it's a disaster,
and look what he's, how cavalier he is to he caved.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
He just can't look at him, That's what they're saying.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
He's king, He's just Kate. He just came in, you know.
And so I just think everything has to have that
negative side to it. I am even though this is
a conservative talk show that we we have, I I
do still believe in collective wins for this country, see
what you're doing, and I just I'm not I'm not
seeing it. I love to see it.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Eight eight eight five seven oh eight zero one zero.
Why can't we celebrate?

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Why?

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Why can't we in this country anymore? Eight eight eight
five seven o eight zero one zero. Cell phone dial
pound two fifty and say hey, Rod or leave it's
to come in on our talkback line by downloading the
iHeartRadio app. You're called your comments coming up right here
on the Rod and Greg children.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
And on Wednesday, I am the weapons systems operator Wednesday wizzo,
but I'm otherwise you're always I'm always no whiz kind
of sounds like something. I am maybe a weapons systems
operator Wednesday, but I am always every day you're wingman,
So maybe every day wing man except for Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, all right. We're asking you tonight about this question
that Greg and I have been debating because of certain
things that have happened here. And I think I think
President Trump has tried to restore some pride in America. Greg,
would you agree? I mean, he's doing some things to
put some pride back into America. We're coming up on
our two hundred and fiftieth birthday. There have been events

(35:16):
that we could celebrate, but this mood about celebrating it.
We don't get the buzz that I think we may
have gotten a few years ago. Is it because of
Donald Trump? Is it because the legacy media is not
talking about this success. They always seem to be talking
about the negative, especially if it involves Donald Trump. What
are your thoughts on this? Eight eight eight five seven

(35:36):
eight zero one zero triple eight five seven zero one
zero on your cell phone dial pound two fifty and
say hey, Rod or leave us come in on our
talk back line by downloading the iHeartRadio app. Now, we
just got an email this from a listener Greg. His
name is Jed, and he says, I believe the reason
nobody celebrates anymore has nothing to do with Trump. It

(35:57):
has to do with their wallet. It is hard to
celebrate when the government spending millions of dollars to go
to the moon, millions of dollars when the working class
just struggles to make ends meet. Maybe that's part of it.
The economy is struggling right now.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
It is we're digging out of an economy from Obama
that was looking great and I think had great steam
behind it. And still does. By the way, the job
numbers came in positive last week. There's been there's been
good economic indicators. We get we are concerned about the
cost of gasoline, which I've always been concerned about. But yeah,
there's there's that reality. But look, we had the seventies

(36:35):
and we had the gas lines, and we had the
Carter administration. That didn't make us feel all that great.
We came out of that. I just think that if
you can go get Maduro out of Venezuela, which every
which Biden wanted, he put out a bounty and said
somebody else go get him. He couldn't go get him.
But you can go eighty eight minutes and get him out.
You can go the operation what was the operation in

(36:57):
June where we took out the Iranian mission. Then you
have what's going on here. I think American our defense
are a department of war. We are on an upswing.
Just compare it to win Obama. In ben Ghazi. We
saw US ambassador drug through the streets dead. Yeah, left
soldiers and those that were meant to protect that consulate defenseless.

(37:21):
You had the Biden abandoning the members of the military,
and Afghanistan and that terrible, terrible, embarrassing withdrawal from Afghanistan,
and look where we are today, and tell me there
isn't something, even in the harder times to say, at
least we know that China's not We're not gonna be
speaking Chinese here anytime soon.

Speaker 10 (37:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
I think I think we've shown a supremacy that I
wondered if we still had.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, you know, I think we have. Let's go to
the phones. Who would you think tonight eight eight eight
five seven oh eight zero one zero. Why are we
not celebrating wit is in Springvale tonight on the Rod
and Greg show. Win, How why are you? Thanks so
much for joining us?

Speaker 11 (37:58):
Good?

Speaker 4 (37:58):
Thank you? So Yeah, I wanted to back up just
a little bit where people were calling Trump uh coward
for not doing his uh destruction And I really think
you never know what Trump's real plans are, and I
think that's intentional, and I believe that he was just
backing off, waiting for the right moment when there's no
human shields there so he can do what he needs

(38:20):
to do to take care of things. And the first
time to break that can Day treaty. I mean they've
already withdrawn uh the entryway for the proves. They've blocked
that now again because of what happened there and in

(38:42):
trying to think of the country that Israel bomb. So anyway,
I think he's just I think I think in the
next two weeks you're going to see him do what
he said he was going to do, at least to
some degree, but not when there's human shields in the way.
That's my opinion. Yeah, we need to we need we
need to celebrate our country more.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, we sure do with and I think you make
a very good point. My guess is, greg our forces
right now are just ready to go. You know, Trump's
not going to give him any warning this time. There's
not going to be a deadline. If he feels they
we've had enough with you, guys, you've broken the ceasefire,
which you may have already done. We're going we aren't
going to wait.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Here's what I think about And in that Trump White
House does he likes some competition of opinions strategy. He
wants to hear from everyone. He's a naturally inquisitive human being.
I've I've met him and my wife is Queen Bees
met him, and he's asked us questions of some of
them are like really important things. He just wants to

(39:41):
hear the feedback. There has got to be a robust
discussion going on inside the administration with so much knowledge,
so much intel, but different probably different approaches. My hope
is that he finishes the job that's in front. Got
to get that that uranium has got to be secure.
You know, they can't be left to enrich it, so
they've got to get that out. It's missiles, nukes and

(40:03):
terrorism and opening that Strait of Hormuz. Those are things
that have to be absolutely accomplished. You've come this far.
He can't be convinced to turn back.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Now, don't stop. Let's go to Mark in West Point tonight.
He's got a thought on this, Mark, How are you
welcome to the Rod and Gregg Show.

Speaker 10 (40:21):
Yeah, I was sixteen years old back in nine or
nineteen seventy six on the two hundreds, and you are correct,
one hundred percent correct, because back then we had Democrats,
we had Republicans, but they were all still Americans. Yeah,
I'm not going to say the president that kind of
split this country in half, but we no longer have

(40:41):
those people. We have communist socialists, libtards, and we have
conservatives and the communist socialists libtards have no intention of
allowing happiness in this country, and that's why we are
not celebrating.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Well, that's a very good point, Mark, I agree. I mean,
how often do you see a Democrat smile anymore?

Speaker 1 (41:02):
They don't.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
They absolutely do.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
They didn't even I don't even think they were smiling
when Biden was there. I thought they were very hostile,
they were very combative, they were even mad when he
was in office. And I think that we have some
foundational institutions that there is a concerted, serious effort, not
out of incompetence, but out of purpose to destroy those
and I think we're combating that in real time right now,
and that might be the difference, or is the difference

(41:26):
than when we all collectively celebrate as Americans.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
First more coming up Rough and Greg with you on
this Wednesday in Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine
kN rs Get the Love.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Why aren't we feeling that collective celebration as we have
in the past as Americans and on things that shouldn't
be partisan. We don't. I don't sense it, but maybe
our listeners do, or maybe they can share some reason
why not. So let's go to the let's go the
gus the phones. Yeah, and let's go to our listeners.
Let's go to Audrey and holiday. Audrey, thank you for holding.
Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 12 (41:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (41:58):
Hi.

Speaker 12 (41:59):
You know, why was it generation of kids that we
saw that those planes go into the twin towers. We
saw our friends get signed up and go to fight
these endless wars. They didn't come back. They should have
body bags. Were lived through this. And when the president
takes it like it's a goddamn joke to send our
men in and then send them home and not give

(42:20):
up housing or medical care or to take care of them, well,
that's an embarrassment of this country. We sent our sons,
we sent our brothers, we sent our families to give
their lives for this country. That's not partisan. That's that's
what you call bs. That's what you call this.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
I appreciate me.

Speaker 12 (42:41):
The mockery of these soldiers.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Well, look, my brother win to Iraq.

Speaker 13 (42:46):
And he was outside the burn pits. Do you think
anybody calls him? Do you think anybody remembers these kids?
Do you think anybody sends them a meal or says
are you guys being taken care of.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
A question for you, I think you're making it compelling case.
But my question to you is, I'm not for forever
wars either. I have that it's a sickening twenty years
that we all live through. And I think you've you've
you've described it accurately. But then what do we not
have a military? Do we shut it down? Do we
not address any threats at all? I think President Trump
shares that same criticism. I don't think. I just don't
know that he's ready for a forever war. But what

(43:21):
I don't know is there any moment.

Speaker 13 (43:22):
That you think President I don't think. I don't think
this is about a president. I think this is about
his cabinet.

Speaker 12 (43:28):
That's useless, that's worthless, that's.

Speaker 13 (43:31):
Pathetic to even think about starting a war. He's been
imagined threatening an entire nation, about being obliterated. That is
not that is not to be taken likely.

Speaker 12 (43:42):
You don't just start this kind of stuff.

Speaker 13 (43:44):
You don't say these kinds of things and pretend like
it didn't matter.

Speaker 12 (43:47):
The next day, it did, And it scared the hell
out of all of us that have kids these days.
And all we're thinking about is God my son going
to go to war. Now it's a son going to
get drafted.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Well, Audrey, wait, wait, wait a minute, there they're they
were going to go. There is no there is no,
there is no.

Speaker 13 (44:08):
You know that the Vietnam veterans were given a number,
they were put on a list to be trapped.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Yes, I was one of those, Audrey. I was one
of those, Audrey, I got that number. Weren't the people
who weren't the weren't our soldiers who came home from Vietnam?
Weren't they given the same treatment that those who are
coming home from our mid eastwards? The same thing? I mean,
I agree with you, we could do a much better
job in taking care of versus they were they were, Yes,

(44:36):
they were in Vietnam, they were.

Speaker 8 (44:39):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yeah. I don't know if we'n't getting anywhere with Audrey,
because she's pretty determined. I understand.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
I'm not looking for a repeat of Iraq. I'm not
looking for a twenty year war at all. But what
I can't say is that because of that twenty year war,
we will never face a nuclear Iran or the missiles
that have four thousand kilometer range that can hit London
and hit Frank Paris and hit Europe and maybe intercontinental
ballistic missiles that would one day be able to reach US.
I'm not okay with the state sponsored terrorism for forty years,

(45:09):
and I'm not okay with the Strait of Horror moves
shutting down all of that. Supply, you have to deal
with those things. The three things we mentioned that have
been the consequence of the Strait of horrormus is the nukes,
the missiles, and the terrorism. Those are things that as
they mount and they threaten this nation. Even if you
don't like that twenty year war, you don't let the
I don't think you let those things continue because of

(45:31):
what's happened in the past. And I'm telling you this
president ran criticizing guys like Jeb Bush, criticizing George W.
Bush for the war. He was not okay with what
had happened there.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah, Yeah, back to the phones we go. Let's go
to Robert DIDs in South Jordan tonight. He wants to
talk about some of the comments that Audrey made. Go ahead, Robert,
thanks for joining the Rod and Gregg Show.

Speaker 10 (45:55):
Thank you.

Speaker 8 (45:55):
I only I caught most of what she said, but
I just wanted to say I'm I'm a veteran of
Afghanistan and Iraq served in one hundred and first Airborne
and I'm here to say that we volunteer to serve
our country. We volunteered to be called to service and

(46:18):
if and that's what we train every day to do,
and we don't come home and ask.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
For special treatment.

Speaker 8 (46:26):
We igh hope that all of my brothers that need
help after their service are receiving it. But that's not
all of us. We don't all need help, and we're
not out looking for handouts and we're not looking for
help all the time. But I have I have family
now that is deployed now in support of this conflict,

(46:53):
and they're proud of themselves. They're proud of what they're doing.
We are, we're liberating people that have been living oppressed.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Thank you, yeah, thank you for your coming. And he's right.
These are volunteers. No one forced them to get into this,
unlike Vietnam when you were drafted, you know, you were
pulled into that. But in this case, these are people
who say, I want to serve my country, I want
to help my country, and that's what these guys are
doing right now.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Well, look, you know again, Robert brings up such a
great point. When I was in the legislature, we wanted
to do things like tuition waivers for veterans or for
people that serve Purple Heart Tuition Waiver Act. But then
even those veterans, we wanted to find smart ways to
pay our bit back. They they we owe a greadit
datitude and even more to those that serve our country.

(47:43):
But veterans are very hard and member service members are
very hard to help because they're not looking for Yeah,
it reminds me of what Robert just said, where they're not.
There's these things we want to do as a collective,
as a society to pay a debt that we owe.
But veterans are very resistant to that kind of help
because it's not what wired them to serve in the
first place. It's not an excuse we need to help them.

(48:03):
But that service and that volunteer service really does run deep,
and it is something that the families are proud of
that I'm you know, I'm proud of my family members
that served in the armed forces. And none of that
means that I'm really good with a twenty year endless war.
None of it, none of what I just said, is
to excuse away that eighty eight minutes to go get
Maduro and Venza venzuel over, zero casualties. Sign me up.

(48:26):
I love that. So I think there's you have to
react to the world situations that are happening. You can't
be afraid of it because of a disaster that we
none of us are really comfortable with. But you got
to act. You've got to be strong in this country.
Peace through strength, that's all we've got.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
All right, It is the Rod in Greg Show. More
of your phone calls coming up right here on Utah's
Talk Radio one zero five. Die cana. Why can't we celebrate?
Why aren't we in a celebratory mood? Let's go back
to the phones. We'll get your thoughts on it. Mark
is an Orum tonight on the Rod and Greg Show. Mark,
how are you? Thanks so much for joining us.

Speaker 10 (48:58):
I'm doing good.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
What's your comment?

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Yeah? Go ahead, Mark?

Speaker 13 (49:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (49:05):
I just wanted to.

Speaker 10 (49:09):
Talk about that lady that was on the air and
talking about her concerns about sending the men and women
of the Armed forces into Iraq, and I think that
that one thing she has not taken in the consideration

(49:29):
is that if you allow these people to have atomic weapons,
nuclear weapons, the amount of devastation that it would cause
here far greater than nine to eleven or anything of
that sort.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
And so.

Speaker 10 (49:47):
At all costs, you've got to prevent that, and the
cost can be high. And so that's my belief on
the situation.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Yeah, I'm with you on that, Mark. Yeah. You you
let one new go, baby, it could be the end.
All right. We also take your comments on our talk
back line. Let's go to that line right now and
see what this listener has to say.

Speaker 11 (50:10):
Bruce from Eden, I think we have two big problems
with why people aren't as excited today as we were
fifty years ago. Well, first one is our kids aren't
being educated in civics and the history of this nation.
And the second problem is we've allowed too many people

(50:32):
that have nothing in common with the American traditions that
we've allowed to come.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Yeah, that's a very good point. There's no commonality anymore,
Greg if you think of it or have anything.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
We're losing it, Yes we are. And that you know,
coming to these United States was to freedom of opportunity
and self determination, and you're just not seeing some of
those common threads of why someone would immigrate here or
why they'd want to be here. It seems to be
very hostile from day one. Yeah, that's accumulatively, that's going
to have its negative impact on our country and our communities.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
I don't know. Maybe maybe as we get closer to
two fifty, maybe we'll get a little excited there. There's
gonna be some amazing things going on.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
I'm very proud.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Yeah, there's going to be some exciting things going on
as we head into two fifty. And the President has
been trying to restore pride in America, even though a
lot of people just hate the guy. And you're never
going to change their mind, Greg now, never going to
change their mind. All Right, when we come back, there
is talk of another amnesty plan. They're calling it dignity.

(51:35):
We'll get into that. And is deportation compassionate? We'll talk
about that as well. Stay with us over changing the
name of Wingman Wednesday to Whizzle Wednesday. Now, if mister
Hughes continues to insist sitting in the back seat, he
cannot be called the wingman because the wingman is a different,

(51:56):
different meaning. We've been we were schooled today by a veteran.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
I'll tell you is a veteran. Yeah, you know, pilot
a tens F sixteen's but it goes by the call
signed ZEUS. So you know that US business.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
You don't mess with that guy.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
And he's like, if you're in a back seat, you're
a weapons systems operator. If you're a wingman, you got
your own jet.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
So you want your own jet or you want to
sit behind me.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
I want my own jet. I just don't want to
have to get two four thousand feet away from you.
I gotta watch it well then work from there. Then
we're calling you wizzo. Yeah, I didn't sign up for that,
doesn't That still doesn't roll off the time? That still
doesn't know doesn't And now who will know even what
that means other than you and E Ray and even
then you amplying other things will.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Will laugh at you with that one. That's for sure.
All right, there is a word today. Here we go again, Greg.
The Republicans have come up with another amnesty plan. Have
they not learned? But they're changing the name. They think
if they call the name dignity, that it will it
will change America's perception of what we do with people

(52:57):
who are in this country illegally and.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Have been here for a long I find most of
these bills sound great, but they don't stand very well
under real scrutiny. Yeah, simple question.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Yeah, that's true. That's true. Well, the President, under his leadership,
has undertaken a major effort to deport people who shouldn't
be here. But the whole idea of deportation kind of
ruffles the feathers of some people out there. That's why
we wanted to bring on our next guest. He wrote
an article called is deportation compassionate? His name is Bart Markcoys.

(53:26):
He is host of A Minute with Bart. You can
find that on YouTube. He's a political analyst and writer
as well. Bart. Hell, are you and welcome to the
Riding great show. Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 7 (53:35):
Bart, I'm glad to be there.

Speaker 9 (53:38):
Glad, and I'd be honored to be called a wizzo.

Speaker 7 (53:41):
That's an honorable title.

Speaker 10 (53:43):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
It is an honorable thing. I can come around to it.
You like it, Maybe I need to like that, Bart,
What about this question? People debate this to boarding people
back to their own countries? It is it a compassionate
thing to do? You wrote a great article on this.
What are some of your thoughts on this issue.

Speaker 9 (54:00):
Well, you know, it's easy to feel compassionate for the
people that you see. You know, you see somebody in
your neighborhood, You see somebody who you know works on
a construction site or goes to church with you or something,
and you think, what a great guy. I'm so glad
he's here. And I don't care that he's here illegally,

(54:23):
you know, just look the other way and let's keep
him here. And boy, it would be awful if he
got sent back to whatever country he came from. But
it's a lot if you really want to feel compassionate.
Should compassion stop at the US border? Should it only
apply to people that have actually made it here and

(54:44):
crossed the border, or should it apply to people all
over the world. What about the people who are left
back in Colombia or in Bolivia and are dealing with
a corrupt country and wish that they had people there
who would stand shoulder to shoulder with them and fight

(55:04):
the corruption and the and the dishonesty and the and
uh and and all of the things that have gone
into making those countries places that they want to leave.
And in the in the article I tell a story
about how when I was a young diplomat, I watched
the guy come in with his family. I was in

(55:25):
Jordan and this guy came in to apply for a
visitor's visa for his wife and his four kids. And
he had been to the US already, had had lived
in New York for visited there for five months and
came back and he showed his passport to the vice

(55:47):
consul and said, see, I had a visitor's visa and
here I am. I came back. She said, well, you
were there for five months and now you've been back
for two weeks and you want to go back to
America again already. She said, you got a job there,
didn't you, And you're coming home now to get your
family and take your family to live there. And he

(56:09):
kind of sheepishly nodded and said, yeah, yeah, I got
a job there, thinking okay, you know, she's not going
to care, and she took his passport, passport of his
wife and all of his kids in stamped him, you know,
with a rejection stamp that says you can't even come
into the embassy to apply for a visa for ten years.

(56:32):
Once you get that stamp in your passport and he
just felt sick. And I felt sorry for the guy.
And the console was watching me, and he said, let's
go for a walk. And he said, you feel bad
for him, don't you? I said yeah. He said his
whole I said, his whole life was that, you know,
he had a job in America, dream come true. And

(56:53):
he said, yeah. What about all the people that you
don't see, the ones who've been waiting patiently for ten, fifteen,
twenty some years, waiting in line to come in legally.
What about those people? He said, if you feel compassion
for them, then you can use compassion as a guide

(57:14):
to make policy.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
It is actually the case that there's people that and
it's the sad part is if you have people around
the world who assume our laws mean something and they're
not prepared to break the law to enter this country,
to them apply for amnesty, it's a difficult process. It's
one that they they're willing to go through, and it's
it's arduous. What would you say, Look, let's have a

(57:38):
tall wall, but let's have a wide gate, let's have
a way that makes sense for people to come through,
or or let's pick that number. I've never even heard
what the number is that we think is even an
appropriate number to have people legally immigrate. But if you
had that system easy I think not easy, but just
one that was clear headed and not impossible, you could
be you could send everyone back and and without apology,

(58:01):
and this whole false compassion is just not applied because
you have a way that you should let all people
legally and properly get to, you know, come to our country.
Is there any way to make that system more intuitive
so it doesn't become a perverse incentive to break the
lawn and sneak in here illegally.

Speaker 9 (58:20):
Yeah, I think so, And I think part of it,
part of the solution has to lie in making sure
that when people do come here, they have time and
a chance to assimilate when they come. My granddad came
to this country from Greece in the early nineteen hundreds,

(58:40):
and he came in that wave of Ellis Island immigrants.
Do you know, only if I remember right, it was
only about twelve million, eleven to twelve million people that
came in that massive wave, and we've had more than
that just walk across the border.

Speaker 10 (58:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (58:59):
And the last few couple of administrations and my grandfather
came here and he learned English, and he didn't want
to hang around with a lot of other Greeks. He
wanted to he was an American. He married a German girl.
She spoke English with a German accent, he spoke it
with a Greek accent, and they spoke English. Their children

(59:24):
grew up speaking English. My father didn't speak Greek, didn't
speak German because he was brought up as an American.
And they assimilated. And when you have these illegal immigrants
coming over, not only do they not assimilate, but they
make it harder for the legal immigrants to assimilate. And

(59:46):
you do have to have some time, then a bit
of a pause, to let people know what it means
to be an American. Our best, our best citizens. And
I'll tell you, as a member of the Republican Party
and as a as a conservative who scoffed at the

(01:00:07):
Republican Party for not being conservative in US, the most
reliably Republican, most reliably conservative voters are usually legal immigrants.
Whether they came here from that's true, you know, Central
Europe or Africa, or Latin America or the Middle East

(01:00:27):
or wherever they came here. They're proud to be Americans
and they're they're eager to be Americans.

Speaker 10 (01:00:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Yeah, that's the challenge that we have in this country today. Bart,
great great article. Really enjoyed spending a few minutes with
it with us. Thanks for joining us, and we'll have
you on again. Thank you, Bart, and good luck with
the YouTube show.

Speaker 7 (01:00:50):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 9 (01:00:51):
Thanks for having me back.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
On all right on our news on our newsmaker line.
That's Bart Mark Coors. He is the host of a
minute with Bart on YouTube talking about UH deportation and
is it compassionate?

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Call Signed Zeus to help us out today. It was
great listener, call Signed Zeus says, hey, get it right.
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
It was really out today.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
One of the most annoying things I think that the
Obama administration did, and they did a lot of them,
was forced car manufacturers to make cars that would turn
off when you came to a stop sign.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Tell me about it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Do you have that on your new car?

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
I get to at least I have a button I
can turn it off, but I hold you came off
every single time I turned my car on, I have
to turn that button off.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
So it stops when you're at a stop sign or alf.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Queenbee's car doesn't give you the choice. It just turns
off automatically. And then if you're coming. I'm coming to
my garage and I'm driving her car, and I'm coming
in slow because I want to. I'm just getting close
to the it'll it's turns off like it thinks I'm
coming to a stop. So then you got to let
off the break to get it going, and it lurches forward.
It's a it's a hazard. It's a total hazard trying

(01:01:58):
to park at my garage. I hate this involuntary turning
off your car. It's it's feels very communist to me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Well, apparently the Trump administration and now killed that idea.
We are going to make any more of those, thinks,
what a stupid idea to lot.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Yeah, I hate that.

Speaker 9 (01:02:14):
I do not like that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
I don't, but I turn it off every time I
It's a habit. Now I turn it off.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Car does this bother? It bothers my wife. But we
cruise control on our new vehicles right that we have.
Will you know they're great. I mean I go to
Saint George and not touch you know, I touched the wheel,
but go But she hates it. That the distance thing
where if you get too close, she's afraid it's not
gonna stop.

Speaker 10 (01:02:39):
No, I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
She gets a little nervous on that. And when we
were coming back from California earlier this year, I let
her dry. I said, will you drive for a little while,
and she did, and she wouldn't use it well because.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
You can actually just the distance where you want to
kind of slow down. But what what it prevents is
having to turn it off and on off and you
hit the brakes. You're cruise control turns off and you
got to set it again. So it's supposed to stop that.
But if you have a dumb friend d like I do,
he doesn't even notice that he's driving thirty miles an hour.
It just slowed down behind the truck and he's not

(01:03:11):
smart enough to get in the fastling and pass it.
He doesn't know that it's slowed down. He's just driving
along and I'm trapped in the passenger side saying what
are you doing? So could go on a cruise control. Yeah,
there's a thing called you know, it slows around it
and you got to go around moron. Yeah, I don't
want him drive my car anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Oh, did you let him drive it?

Speaker 10 (01:03:29):
One?

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Yeah, I let him drive it. That's what he did.

Speaker 5 (01:03:31):
Say.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
He got Maddie floorid it and he got a ticket,
and I told the officer to send him to jail,
and he wouldn't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
All right. When you turned eighteen, yeah, which was many
years ago, many what what is the one thing you
wanted to do? You know it doesn't that question question? Yeah,
because you know I never let age, I never let
numbers get in my way. If there's something I wanted
to do, I kind of just did so. I just

(01:03:57):
don't think eighteen was like, if you're like me, the
one thing I wanted to do, move out of my home,
none of my parents home.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
When I was eighteen, I did move.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Yeah, Yeah, and I did too. Return, I went school
and I was gone.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Yep. Same with me after high school graduation. I never
lived at home.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
So tell me, why are kids in their twenties and
thirties still living with mom and dad?

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Yeah, that's a good question.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Don't you have a desire to get on your own
and get going?

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
You know, my brains are actually wired. I saw a
really interesting study where they your brains are wired. You're
more prone to take chances and risks and jettison the
shelter and the food and the clothes to take risks
when your brain is at at a certain age, and
that is your leaving the nest instinct, And that is
what we're supposed to be wired to have. Really, Yeah,

(01:04:42):
we're supposed to be wired to get out, to leave
and do our own thing, to be more more open
to taking risks.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Well, this company called finance buzz dot com did a
study and what it found is that it's bluestates where
kids refuse to grow up and leave home. Isn't that
a larger larger majority of kids in blue states refuse
to leave and want to stay home with mom and
dad until they're into their thirties.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Yeah, well that's called social engineering. They just want a
social engineer these kids from birth till the grave. And
you know, they they want you to stay under someone's thumb,
be it parents or government or someone. They don't they
don't want you doing that whole self determination thing. Yeah,
they don't want that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
List of states that have the word where the problem
is the worst New Jersey, Connecticut, California, Maryland, Delaware, Florida,
New Hampshire and New York.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Wow, I was a fair child. I wasn't right. I
ran around everywhere, even when I was home. That's a
technical term being home.

Speaker 10 (01:05:40):
So you know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Yeah, Well I come eighteen, I was gone.

Speaker 9 (01:05:44):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Yeah, we both kind of the same thing. We both
we went far far away the house, We left the state,
left the.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Almost left the country. Yeah, all right, Mary, coming up,
Rod and Greg with you. You're on Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five nine kN rs. I'm Rod arkut I'm
a citizen Hughes. Well, the first time I remember a
name given to a group of people, Greg, was when
I was in high school growing up, late sixties and seventies,

(01:06:11):
and that was hippies.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Yes there are there were hippies.

Speaker 7 (01:06:14):
Yes there were.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
There were hippies back then, right, And over the years,
we've had different names for different groups of students. Well,
apparently there is now a new name for a group
of people who are pierced, weird looking Internet addicts.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
There's enough of them that they've now become their own demographic.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
They apparently have become their own demographic. And one who
should know is an English teacher himself. He's also a
guest on this show. We've had a ghost Meyra on
the show before. He is a senior contributor to the
Federalist also an English teacher. A ghost. How are you
welcome to the Rod and Greg Show?

Speaker 6 (01:06:51):
I'm doing Greg glad to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Okay, they're piersd. They're weird looking their Internet addicts. What
name are we now giving them?

Speaker 7 (01:07:01):
Diner goths? They are called diner goths and this is
the basically the gen z. So these are people and
their teens and in their twenties.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
So what's the point, Like, I mean, what's what's what's
the what's the rally call? What's Okay? They like the Internet,
but that's if they're in your English class.

Speaker 6 (01:07:23):
Ord.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
I don't think they're heads inside the they're online?

Speaker 8 (01:07:26):
So what is it that?

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
How do they run in this pack? Like pretend it
is this mutual of omaha? Tell us about this species
and where they grat how do they come together and what.

Speaker 5 (01:07:35):
Do they do?

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
Well?

Speaker 7 (01:07:38):
They're they're heavily influenced by anime and so back when
I was a kid, anime was pretty nerdy and you'd
get beat up if you watched anime. But now it's
socially acceptable and a lot of kids do it, and
it's very very popular, and so they do their crazy
colored hair, and some will go further and do the
tattoos and pier scenes, and they will do weird fashions,

(01:08:00):
you know, nothing like you scaer. Well it's ugly, I
don't know, I mean, it just looks like the characters.
But I mean it's very it's childish in a lot
of ways. But these are people that are old enough
to work. These are older people that are kind of
starting their careers, and yet they've made themselves kind of
like into this freakish look. It's not flattering in any way,

(01:08:25):
and a lot of it to me, at least the
way I interpret it, so that it's called diner goth.
So you know, like the goth kids that act like
vampires back in the day. Well now it's kind of
gotten fruity and they're more a little bit more colorful,
But it's diner goths, so diner as in like they're
usually middle class, working class, so it's not really a
way to show status either. So I mean, but this

(01:08:47):
has become a lot more common, and they are online
a lot. That's the other thing. I mean, you kind
of joke about it. But they were on phones. They
are on the screen, and during COVID was especially a
big year for them because they were on the screen
all the time, and so there they're grasp on reality.
You know, there's not a lot of self consciousness about

(01:09:08):
it because they're so online. They're like, oh, this this works,
and so they can kind of make believe.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
So when you say pierce stuff, are we talking like
two earrings in the year you talking when you say
peer stuff. There's a lot of different piercings. Yeah, there's
different piercings and numbers of piercings. What when you say
pier stuff, what would be an average piercing of a
diner goth?

Speaker 7 (01:09:30):
Well, I mean I see more of the younger people.
I don't know if they get as many piercings. They
get on around their ear obviously they want to look
like elves, or they get in their nose, or they
get it in their belly button, or they get it
in other places. I mean, tattoos are really big too.
If you ever go out, I mean, or go to
a mall, I mean, these people are horribly defaced. There's

(01:09:51):
graffiti all over their body.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Yeah, So I've always wondered on the tattoos. If people
realize what tattoo's tattoo is going to look like when
they turn seventy.

Speaker 7 (01:10:01):
No, what you like when you were five years old?
Do you still want to have that now that you're
fifteen or whatever? That's what I tell them that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Yeah, Now you say they're they're influenced by a show
or something called anime. I don't know what that is,
what exactly is that? And I don't know what that is.

Speaker 7 (01:10:18):
Oh my gosh, this is Japanese animated show. Okay, these
have become a lot more popular, and not just Japan.
There's like k Pops they have animation as well movies.
So yes, this is what they're watching. And again the
gender gap is also a big thing. There's not really
much of a precedent for the diner goth thing. It's

(01:10:39):
all from online. It's pretty global. I mean, it's not
even like American or derived from anything, you know, local,
it's all just it kind of transcends geographical boundaries and
it's just all over. It's a generational thing and it's
just all from the Internet and a lot of it. Yeah,
it's the Japanese anime animation their cartoons manga and uh yeah,

(01:11:03):
and and to me again, my big thing with the
diner goth and why I really don't approve of it.
It's like, Okay, kids are all going to have their
style and be influenced by things, but this one is
kind of anti social and it's anti reality, you know.
So there's a little bit of a live action role playing,
like they're they're just kind of playing make believe to
be like these characters, and they're not really engaging with reality.

(01:11:25):
They're not dating, they're not asking people out, they're not
going out with friends. I mean again, they're just kind
of catering to this kind of online persona that they're creating,
and a lot of it's just kind of imaginary.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
A Goose, I'm a little older than you is speed
speed Racer, speed Racer Japanese anime.

Speaker 7 (01:11:42):
There you go, speed Racer.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
But that's that was a good cartoon. That wasn't weird,
was it?

Speaker 7 (01:11:48):
Well, it's gotten a lot more graphic and adult speed
Racer and Astroboy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
In school a Goose. Do you see them hanging around
with each other? I mean, you're an English teacher, do
you see this a lot of a high school level
and them hanging around with each other.

Speaker 7 (01:12:04):
You know, they're in proximity with each other, but I
don't think the links are very strong. So I mean
that they're all kind of misfits, you know, and that's that,
you know. Again, that's kind of my criticism of the
diner goth thing. It doesn't bring people together and like
over we're all, you know, helping each other out. It's
more just kind of know, you're off on your own,
you're a loof. I mean, maybe you connect with people

(01:12:25):
just through things that you're a fan of. So a
lot of them are kind of grouped by fandoms, by
groups of fans of a particular show or a movie
or a band or something. So no, it's not really
a cohesive type of you know, aesthetic.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Is it just a circular I mean, does does this
go anywhere in terms of trajectory or are they just
going to just stay to themselves just you know, just
just be quiet and just stay online and we won't
notice them because they just kind of are insular. Or
does this grow in some way?

Speaker 7 (01:12:57):
We don't know, I mean it doesn't. It kind of
capitizes their dreams. I mean, they're losers, so how do
you get a job, how do you get a spouse?
How do you kind of live out your dream?

Speaker 9 (01:13:09):
Is?

Speaker 7 (01:13:10):
You know, you just kind of because you're consumed by
this kind of you know, slop so uh. I mean,
I don't think it's gonna perpetuate itself. I think it's
a trend like any others, and it'll get old and
people kind of start laughing at it like we are.
But for the time being, I mean, you do have
a good a sizeable number of people that have kind
of bought into it, and uh, I think they're going

(01:13:31):
to have some regrets for sure. You know, you hope
they get out of it. Well, it's not very fulfilling,
you know. I mean it imagine being a goth or
a punk. I mean, yeah, you have that time and
then you kind of grow out of it. You can
here too, but it's going to leave a mark.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
For sure, a ghost.

Speaker 11 (01:13:47):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
I can tell my co host Greg Hughes is really
getting into this. What would it take for him to
become a diner goth?

Speaker 6 (01:13:55):
Now?

Speaker 11 (01:13:55):
What?

Speaker 10 (01:13:56):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
What would he need to do? A goost?

Speaker 7 (01:13:59):
He needs to spen a lot more time on the internet,
watch a lot more anime so that Japanese animation shows
and uh, you know, just kind of quit his job,
break family for a while and just spend a lot
more time online and just kind of engage with that

(01:14:19):
culture and you know, pick up their vocabulary and you know,
maybe dye his hair, get some piercing, get a tattoo.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Oh, he's so excited over this right now, he's gonna
be going to the tattoo shop when we get to
the show. Done.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
It seems to be at It's a long name.

Speaker 7 (01:14:38):
Yeah, well I didn't make it. I mean it comes
from an article that went viral and it's about a guy.
He talks about his diner goth girlfriend, and he's just
kind of getting into this culture that's really been dominant
in gen Z.

Speaker 10 (01:14:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:14:51):
So, I mean I kind of respond to it and
I just talk on it from my end as a
teacher when I see this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
You know what you're seeing the this would have gone
right over my head. I didn't know any of this
was a thing. So appreciate your front lines reporting.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
You know, I'm going to ask. I'm going to ask
my grandchildren, who are now and almost into high school,
if they run into any of these kids right now.
I bet they do.

Speaker 7 (01:15:15):
They do once you kind of once you read about
it and learn about it, you see it everywhere. It's
one of those types of things you can't unsee it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Now. Oh wow, they take the place of furries or furries.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Got our furry's gone now with goost our furries or
are they still hanging around?

Speaker 7 (01:15:30):
No, they've been incorporated into diner goths. They're very tender.
It's actually fluid. I guess you should have mentioned that
wonderful everything is possible now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Well, I guess so. A goost is always great chatting
with you, man, Thank you, thank you? All right, a
goose mara talking about diner goths they've incorporated with a
furry sound. Yeah, you know, I think you would look
good in a tattoo. I asked your question you don't
want to know the answer to. I don't think I
wanted that answer, which you are appearing force. Would you
ever want a piercing?

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Absolutely no.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
I don't understand how people who have them in their tongue.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
Well, I've just seen some really obnoxious people that get
into it. There's a lot of piercings that can happen.
You ever see the people that put those little things
in their head like horns. They put clumps in their
head to make it look like horns.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Oh, I've never seen that. Yeah, you hang around weird.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
No, I saw it as a picture. I wasn't someone
I was hanging around with. It's not my pure group, Rod,
it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Is there a state lawmaker who has some piercing No,
I don't think so. You know those people, No, I
don't think there is.

Speaker 6 (01:16:32):
There is.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
It's a democrat, I guarantee.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
I uh right, more coming up, still clearing that earlier
racket citizen in Hughes and I brought our cat now
before we leave.

Speaker 9 (01:16:42):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Pete Haig Seth and General Raising Kane held the news
conference today updating people on what's going on with the war.
He gave us a rundown of what it takes to
feed the army right now involved in Operation Epic Free.

Speaker 14 (01:16:57):
Along the way, we consume more than six million meals
and by my estimate, more than nine hundred and fifty
thousand gallons of coffee, two million energy drinks, and a
lot of nicotine. But I am not saying that we
have a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Two million energy drinks I'm not in the military would
be three million if I was there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
I was going to say that sounds like you're weekly
in taped.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
I was gonna say two MILLI sounds a little week that.
I thought the military were tough. Hey, you get, you
get more less coffee, more energy drinks.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
I thought the coming on the nicotine was interesting. A
lot of nicotine. But we don't have a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
We do not have a problem. I think you mentioned
all of them a problem, but I liked it. I
think that's good details. I mean it takes a lot
of energy.

Speaker 7 (01:17:42):
Tell what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
Would you like how would you like to work in
the kitchen. That's a lot of work.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
I mean there was was it nine or fifty thousand
gallons of coffee? You're not you're doing the you're doing
energy drink at disservice. I think you gotta give an
energy drink a track.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
A little bit more.

Speaker 7 (01:17:59):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
That does for us Tonight, Head up, shoulders back. May
God bless you and your family and this great country
of our We're back tomorrow at four. We'll talk to
you then, have a good eg

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