The Rod and Greg Show: Utah GOP Wants Transparency in Judiciary Branch

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
National champion sixteen to o Indiana. They don't have a
single five star recruit on that team. Cinderella's story if
there ever was.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yes, you know, we go away for three days and
we can't. We can't do this anymore, no more three
day breaks. Too much goes on.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
This is why America can have nice things. We leave
and what do you do? You break up the place,
you break things, you know, things get go crazy. Then
we have to come here and repair or explain what's happened.
And the longer way, I was so low. I wanted
to come yesterday because I was so mad about what
happened in Minneapolis on Sunday. Monday was yesterday was the
day I wanted to really well dive into that.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
We will definitely get into that here in a few minutes.
We have got a lot to get to today. We
are going to talk about these protesters have sunk to
a new low, and I hope, I hope someone has
the courage to bring charges against Don dun Lemon. I mean,
I hope they do. I will have to wait and see,
but we'll see. We'll talk about that, We'll talk about immigration.

(00:58):
Donald Trump probably one of his biggest success stories in
his first year back in office for a second time.
We'll talk about that. We'll talk about legislature. Hey, their
meeting today, they started today. Were up there on the guys.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Up there, ladies and gentlemen. It's new new haircuts, brand
new shoes. You can smell the new shoes. It's like
a first day of school. Everybody is just happy to
be there. It's about the happiest you'll see everyone. Yeah,
probably that first day. Yeah, it all goes downhill from me.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
So I can only be forty five calendar days.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
That's because they work so hard. I mean, there are
all the time, it is, and they get paid nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
This state legislature. This is the the most brief, the
shortest days of a state's general session of the legislature
in America. There's none shorter. It's like thirty So if
you count, because forty five is calendar days, if you
count actual days Monday through Friday, it's about thirty four
days or something like that. And so you got it.

(01:50):
There's a lot of bills, which they don't have to
have as many bills, but they have to pass the
state budget at that time too, So a lot lot
going on in a very abbreviated period of time.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well, one issue they're going to fallon is a review
of the judiciary in this state, dirty Diana. Already. We'll
talk about that a little bit later on.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Time for that review.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Now, the media is ignoring the attack on the church,
and we'll also talk about It's funny, Greg, they take
a survey and now one Democrat could identify what a
woman is. And these are all presidential.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Contenders and they know they know. So when they say
they can't know that that individual's lying to you, because
they full well know they've known their whole lives and
they won't tell you because they're What they're really saying
is the radical left base is more important to me
than honesty and being truthful to you. That's that's what.
That's the answer. If someone can't tell you, what if
someone doesn't understand chromosomes and what gender someone is? They

(02:46):
do they actually do?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, they sure do, they sure do. All right, let's
talk about what happened in that church in Minneapolis on Sunday.
I think Greg, the protesters have made a what I
would call a fatal mistake in that decision to invade
it church. The American people look at this. A church
is a house of worship, yes, a place where people
go to pray, to seek help, to feel comforted, to

(03:10):
feel part of a community. And you've got a pair
of nut jobs out there, led by Don Lemon. Oh
I didn't lead them. I knew nothing about it. Oh,
you just showed up at that church that happened to
have a protest in it, and that I think the
American people are looking at this saying that's going way
too far.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Have you watched the video? Yes, okay, because I saw
images which were already pretty upsetting to me, But it
gets worse when you actually sit and watch how they
storm in mm hm you see that. I saw the
at least one image of one little boy that's afraid.
He's crying. What they say and how they act it
is just over the top, and it's it is so
unbelievably disrespectful and it is not what civilized society does.

(03:50):
It's not a lawful protester. Don Lemon. He is haranguing
those parishioners and trying to ask them questions and he's like,
you know, this is not the place, and he's like,
have you ever heard of the first men? You can
all storm into churches. You can't storm into abortion clinics.
You can't storm into hospitals. You can't storm into places
like that and begin to disrupt. There are federal laws

(04:11):
against it. It is not a freedom of speech issue, No,
it's it and so it don Lemon. If he even
if he was good enough to still be employed, which
he's not because he's not a journalist, he got fired.
He would get fired today. There's not I only I
think within the regime media they can't they wouldn't be
able to justify it, and they're running away from it.
I don't know anybody that's willing to even report it

(04:33):
or show the images of the video of their behavior
interrupting and shutting down a church service on Sunday in Minneapolis.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's unbelievable. And they've even got a step further. Greg
There are a lot of videos now and on social
media where these protesters are just going after people walking
down the street. Yeah, you know, individually they're saying, you know,
do you support Ice? If you don't, if you support Ice,
you're this and this. They use every name in the book.
You cannot walk down this in Minneapolis right now without

(05:02):
some protester, anti ICE protester coming up and attacking you,
using every word in the book, challenging you. And there's
video after video of regular normal people walking down the
street and maybe doing it, going to work, and they're
being attacked by these men.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
And I shouldn't I'm not laughing verbally is I shouldn't laugh?
I am kind of laughing. But but do you get
these You get this restaurant and they say that the
owner of the restaurant's the one that called the anti
ICE people. But these are four computer programmers. Okay, they're
just happened to be white and their late twenties, early
thirties or whatever, wearing sweaters. I guess I don't know what.
I don't know what the tell they thought was that

(05:37):
made these guys ice agents. But the next thing they know,
they're getting harassed, harangued, and they're like, we were I
program I work for a computer company. I don't, I'm
not ice, And well do you agree with them? Well
I don't, but I don't agree with what you're doing
to me right now. They are just attacking everyone. I mean,
if it is, it's gone so far beyond the pale.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Well, did you see what they're doing in a target store.
They're lining up, they're buying bags of salt and then
going through the checkout. County, we want to return it.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
It's getting derange. I think that the tipping point you're describing, though,
won't be a tipping point unless the normies, everyday Americans
see how insane this is getting. But I think the
regime is doing a pretty good job of trying to
cover it up, conceal that they don't want the people
to see what they're actually capable of out there.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
We'll explain that and talk more about that coming up.
We've got a busy day. It is a Tuesday, as
we're back at work after enjoying a three day break
here on the Run and Greg Show and Utah's Talk
Radio one oh five, Dine, Kate and are asked by
the way, we had a listener email A. I sued,
this's email with you over the weekend. Apparently we're idiots
because we laugh on the radio.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, I will well the part that will be true.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
It was just because I just laughed, Okay, idiot.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Actually, I actually I actually saw that as constructive because
I I've I've listened to shows that I think have
laughed too much at themself, so I kind of thought, okay,
that might be true. The part that that was the
observation from our smart audience that usually I totally concur
with is that we were just saying nahh.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Uh huh huh.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
I thought I made a very coaching argument in case,
somewhat from my position of it, express Lane, and I
did not think I was just saying uh uh or
uh huh.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Well it was a little more by laughing you were
an idiot.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Well yeah, I heard that, but I've been called worse
me too, So I mean that's all lot are off
a duck's back from me.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Well, today, Mark Sweat the one year anniversary of Donald
Trump being back in office for the second time. A
lot of analysis being are taking place. But the one
thing I think that most people would recognize today Greg
is his work on the border. We have almost shut
down the border.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
It is it's it's it's surprised. I mean, we were
told for so long that you needed so many different
laws and new laws, and I honestly it's better now
than in his first term. So you thought, well, maybe
there's something you could do to strengthen it. No turns
out no law because I think I don't know what's
less than zero, but we're about at zero now. I
think we're in the decimal dust of percentage of people

(08:07):
crossing illegally. So hats off to this president for at
least getting that and to I think at least two
million self deportations has happened, which is a big number.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Amazing. Well, joining us on our Newsmaker line to talk
more about this is the president of the American Main
Street Initiative. His name is Jeffrey Anderson. Jeffrey, welcome back
to the show. Jeffrey, you're right about the fact that, yes,
we've had success, but the immigration issue isn't solved yet.
Is it a pipe dream to think he'll ever be solved?

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Well, let me say first, the Trump administration, I think
has had phenomenal success and immigration in his first year,
historic success, but as far as actually solving the problem,
and some people have kind of falsely claimed that they
have done so, but it's this is a problem that
has been it's been taking shape for decades, decades of
just refusal to enforce to secure the border, and so

(08:58):
you have a fore and born population level in this
country that's sky high. It's above the level that it
was in eighteen ninety when a record was set that
lasted for about a century and a quarter. And so
I mean, I guess and answer your question, Yeah, we
could solve this problem, but it will take years and
years of the sort of dedicated effort that the Trump

(09:19):
administration has been showing, not only securing the border, but
continuing to secure the border over time and making it
so it's not a magnet for people to come here
like it was under President Biden.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Politically, watching what's happened with the President's immediate action and
at least measurables at the border compared to the in
country issues that we have in the criminals and ICE's
attempt to try ICE's attempts to remove into port individuals
that seems to be political. It seems like the left
is fighting tooth and nail to prevent that is the
greater issue. Who's already come into the country illegally and

(09:54):
those that the Biden administration let in and numbers. I
don't even think we really know is that the greater
problem or is the is the border something we should
still be squinting at that that hasn't been solved.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
Oh no, I think they've solved the border of the
Trump administration. It's it's really rather amazing, and it's people
didn't really seem to realize exactly what the Biden administration
was doing. For four years. They basically were saying, come
to the border, say the word asylum, and will let
you into the United States, even though federal law clearly
says that that's not allowed. And the Biden administration was

(10:27):
refusing to enforce the law, really violating the law for
four years, let in probably a net, you know, close
to ten million people into the country, the vast majority illegal.
And and so the Trump administration just stopped that cold.
They just simply started enforcing the law as written, the
very thing that like when Kamala Harris and Tim Wallaser campaigning,

(10:50):
they said, oh, we can't possibly solve this problem without
massive immigration legislation. You guys remember that, Yeah, yeah, And
it turned out all you needed was the president who
had worth the law. So I'll give you one stat
that's in the piece that for every one person at
the border patrol has released into the United States under Trump,

(11:10):
one alien, the Biden administration released over fifty six thousand.
So that's enough to fill Dodger Stadium for every time
that Trump released one. And so people have figured out
very quickly that there's no point in coming to the border,
and so that has been solved, and that's just a
massive improvement. And in fact, a lot of people have
left of their own accord. And so for the first

(11:31):
time since the nineteen tens, we've had an administration that
has actually caused the number the foreign born population to
drop rather than rise. That has changed the trajectory on
that toward a drop rather than a rise.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
We're talking with Jeffrey Anderson, he's the president and American
Main Street Initiative. Jeffrey, you talked about you know, it
really is going to be up to Congress looking into
your crystal ball or your pipe dream. Do you think
Congress is even willing to try and solve this issue.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Well, I don't really think it is up to Congress. Mostly.
I think it's this has been a problem that's been
created mostly by presidents refusing to do their job, their
core constitutional duty of enforcing the laws written. I think
Trump has shown that in spades that Biden blatantly wouldn't
enforce the law on immigration and Trump's doing so, and

(12:25):
you see just a total sea change. You see just
like you know, it's like you know Disneyland. He kept
spinning one way and then Trump yanks and spins the
option direction. It's just so I think he's shown that
this isn't all that talk for years about how, oh,
we can't solve this except through Congress. No, I mean
this has been an executive branch problem. Now other ways

(12:48):
that the laws could be improved. Sure, I mean, are
the odds that Congress will make it better rather than
worse if they touch it? Well, I wouldn't want to
bet on that one.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
So my question is, and if you look at the
numbers of the deportations removed under both Republican and Democrat administrations,
you have to Clinton, you look at Bush, you look
at Obama. They were quite high. But what you saw
is in proximity to the border, be at border states,
border counties, they could remove, they could actually send back
pretty quickly. I think the Biden administration's goal and was

(13:16):
what you said, say the word asylum. We'll give you
a court date in three to five years which you'll
never show up for. And we're going to make every state,
every continental United States state border state. They did not
think in their wildest imaginations that there would even be
an attempt to try and remove from interior states. We're
seeing a lot of pushback, but you're also seeing at
the same time a church inside it in Minneapolis being

(13:40):
interrupted and protested within. Are the American people are ultimately?
Are they where's the breaking point? Are they going to
want no more enforcement because they can't handle the chaos
and the disruption by the anti ICE people, or are
we going to turn on those that want to leave
them in and dangerous criminals here and in moments like
that church being invaded, become supporters of enforcing the law.

(14:01):
Where where does America go from here?

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Well, I think America's are somewhat split on the ice question,
and I think the press helps to contribute to that
by making it seem like the entire Trump immigration agenda
is ice raids and major cities, which is not true.
The main and most important thing Trump has done is
secured the border and kept people from coming. He stopped
the flow and then you get a lot of natural
outward flow of people returning from wherever they came from. Now,

(14:28):
the ice, the ICE enforcementund the interior is crucial. You
can't have it be a situation, and that's part of
enforcing the law. You can't say once you're here, you're here,
we're not going to do anything about it. And the
majority of the people, about sixty percent of the of
the folks that Trump has that ICE has has removed
under Trump, they've been people with criminal records. I think

(14:49):
the polling shows pretty clearly that Americans have no problem
removing people with criminal records. They don't like the thought
of somebody of ICE like rolling into you know, rolling
up to a depot or whatever and finding a bunch
of Hispanic workers and just rounding them up indiscriminately. I
don't That's not what's happening, but that's what the press
likes to make it sound like is happening. So, I mean,

(15:12):
I think I think this is a little bit of
a pr battle, but the you know, the ICE enforcement
is a key part of the whole process, even though
the border securing is the most.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Assentiart Jeff Andrewson joining us on our Newsmaker line. More
coming up on The Rotten Greg Show and Utah's Talk
Radio one oh five nine. Kay An arrests well there
was a pullout in the Deseret News today talking about
the number one issue or the top issues you know
voters are concerned about. One of them, of course, is
housing affordability. You've got a lot of young families in

(15:44):
this state who simply cannot afford to get into a home.
I know the lawmakers want to take a look at that,
but other issues there they want to take a look at.
Greg is the judiciary.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yes, we've spent a lot of time on this program
talking about Judge dirty diary Gibson in some of her
bizarre map making, you know, desires and pension for doing
what the legislative branch is supposed to do. But we've
talked about the legislative brand or the judicial branch generally
and how these these you know, the retention elections, you

(16:14):
have zero information and you don't know what you're voting on.
There's very little transparency. So you know, this is the
time for a legislative branch, if it is a branch
and has separate, separate, equal powers, to really have a
you know, look at their relationship with the other branches.
And so I'm very excited about our next guest, Senator
Todd Wiler, chair of the Judiciary Committee and our guest,
Senator Wyler. Thank you for joining us on the program.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
Oh thanks Greg, Thanks Rod for having me on.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
This is the moment. This is you know, we have
the shortest general session in America, so you don't have
a lot of time, but you got about seven weeks
to really review what has happened, taken a you know,
maybe a inventory of do you still have the same
separate equal powers as the legislative branch. What's the judiciary doing?
How are they acting in their role? Are there things
that would help the public under stand the judiciary's role

(17:01):
and be more transparent. I'm looking at things like the
retention elections and how you don't know anything about anyone
when you vote. But maybe you could share with our
listeners what are you staring at in this session regarding
the judiciary.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Well, there's a lot, you know, there's everything from adding
you know, maybe two new Supreme Court justices, to amending
some of the rules involving bar fees which is overseen
by the Supreme Court, and some other things. And you know, Greg,
you served a long time in legislature. The relationship between
the different branches they kind of ebb and flow. And
I think, you know, for the past two or three

(17:38):
years there's been a heightened amount of tension between the
legislature and the judiciary. I also think there's some mutual
respect there as well. We heard this morning from actually
this afternoon from the Chief Justice Durand, and we had
the whole Supreme Court in the House.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
You've been to many.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Of those state of the Judiciary things, But let me
just say this. You know, like Grandma, you know the
government records that applies to the legislature and to the
executive branch that the judiciary does not follow Grandma. So
that's one example where they are much less transparent than
the other branches of government. And let me be the
first to say there are some things in court that

(18:16):
should not be public, like an adoption, a sealed adoption
that I could give you a dozen examples, and I
don't think anybody suggesting that. But something that you two
should care about is when Senator McKay's trigger law for
abortion was challenged, that case filed by Planned Parenthood, was
randomly assigned to Judge Mark Corus, and he then accused

(18:38):
himself saying, oh, I know some of the attorney generals
in that office, well everybody does. And then he assigned
it to the most liberal judge on the bench, Judge Stone,
Andrew Stone, who was about to retire. And then Andrew
Stone issued that injunction three years ago. That's still in place.
So stuff like that I think deserves a little bit
more transparency.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Sandra Wiler, what does more transparency look like to you?
And why is it so important for the voters and
the people of Utah to see that transparency.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
That's a great question, and I think that I don't
have all the answers there, and this might be first
for K and R aspect. I'm going to vote live
on the Senate floorsh here in one second.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
That was my vote, dedicated public service multitasking. That's beautiful,
good job.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
I hope that was a bill that I should have
voted anyway. But you know, I do think so that
most people don't know nothing about the judiciary. But the
judiciary they have a judicial Council which is made up
of judges from different the strips all over the court,
and the Judicial Council kind of acts as the legislature,
the legislative body of the of the judiciary. But it's

(19:52):
all kind of, it's all kind of. I think there
can be reporters that go to judicial council, but I
don't think the public understands at all how the judiciary works.
And look at the public is not all that keen
on how the legislature works either. Some people are very

(20:13):
educated in others. You know, my wife's half of my
wife's friends think I'm a US senator because they know
I'm a senator, but they don't necessarily appreciate the difference.
But yeah, and I don't have to correct them. But
I do think in this day and age, in twenty
twenty six, I think people expect all government agencies who
are spending tax pair money to have a level of accountability,

(20:34):
and I think that the courts are below that expectation
right now is exactly how to change that.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
I have all those ideas, so I'm just in the
chief seats now, but just for a swing thought to
use a golf term. If you're looking at this, If
we're going to ask the public to vote on retention elections,
and we're going to ask them to take some time
to look at those reverse engineer from there, do we
know how they vote? You can't ask an attorney without
them saying I could be if I were to ever

(21:01):
say something negative about a judge. What information could someone
reasonably look at in terms of their judicial decisions what
they decide. There has to be something that puts some
lights on that process if you're asking the public to
vote to retain them or not. And I know there's
one I do conduct commission, but nobody looks at that,
and that's a bunch of attorneys that ultimately have to
set in front of those judges anyway. So I just

(21:21):
think anything that you could do that would let someone
have some information to make that vote whether to retain
or not is probably the north star in this.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Yeah, and I agree with you, and I'll tell you
what we really need to do. I think that it's
called JPEX, the Judicial Performance Evaluation Commission. Every judge is
hauled in front of them every four to six years,
depending on their cycle of when they became a judge,
and every attorney that appears before them gets to fill
out a survey anonymously basically and kind of give our critiques.

(21:51):
And this is the best kept secret in the state.
Greg We've had about eight judges in the past ten
years who have quietly retired because because JPEX was going
to recommend against their retention, and so I would argue
that's kind of it's actually working kind of behind the scenes.
But the one thing we need to do is we
need to like put Jpeck's website on electronic billboards and

(22:13):
get more information out there so people can you know,
especially with the vote by mail, you have the time
to look up and see. Now JPEX does vote to
recommend the retention of most judges, but there have been
a few that they have voted to, you know, not
retain that they'd recommend to not be retained. And so
that's very interesting. Now, if a judge retires, they can

(22:34):
kind of do so and keep their dignity, which I
actually support, and they just don't, you know. So so
if JPEK was going to not retain them, they can
say I'm going to retire and then that's never made public,
which I think is a good way to get rid
of judges.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
It lat.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, we appreciate you talking to us from the floor
of the Senate and your vote. We appreciate your time.
Thank you, thank you, thank you both. All right that
stage center, Todd Wiler, you're on the rodin Greg show
in Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine can arrest
legislature underway. Greg, you'll be actively involved in the coming days.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Absolutely. I got some other opinions about that, but we
you know, the show goes on.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
The show goes on, all right, more coming up? It
is the Rod and Greg showing Utah's Talk Radio one
O five Die Canter rests the NFL. Okay big, you
know you've got the conference championships coming up this weekend.
Then two weeks later, I think it is it's the
super Bowl or super Bowl always out in San Francisco
at Levi Stadium, Levi Stadium, I think I think that's
what it's still called. But the NFL slapping the fans again,

(23:33):
are you ready for this?

Speaker 5 (23:34):
Now?

Speaker 2 (23:34):
The halftime show this year is bad Bunny.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
I heard, okay, bad Bunny Kay.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
You told us how to learn Spanish. If we want
to know what he's saying, he yelled at everybody that
wants to watch it.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
The the pregame festivities. The band performing is green Day.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Now, if you know anything about green Day, their lead singer,
I'm trying to remember his name. Their lead singer hates
Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Well that's rude.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah. So here we have Bad Bunny doing the halftime show,
and we've got Green Day during the pregame show. Two
bands that yeah, Billy Joe Armstrong, thank you, We Ray
and they you know, he hates Trump, he hates America.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
You know it's it's they hired Jay Z to put
these control all and so he's got this bent and
he's going to put his politics in. And I'm telling you,
the NBA, I think is the least popular professional sport
in America right now because it's it's one thing. Yeah,
they've it is boring, but I think they've over politicized
that sport. I think it's they got too woke. If

(24:35):
I have to listen to one more NBA coach lecture
me about public policy, I mean they just their sense
of self is completely warped. I don't see any coach
or a manager of a baseball team, coach will put
NFL team that wants to use that podium to lecture
me about their.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
And they do politics and they do it.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Doc Rivers, you got Kerr, you know you get it.
I'm just tired. Who wants to hear that from your
professional sports? And so if if the NFL wants to
give jay Z the you know the levers, good luck good.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Luck of that. One quotes all right, our number two
the Roddy grag show back with you on this Tuesday
and Utah's Talk Radio one on five nine can or
I stay with us more coming up.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Turns out no one knows that today was the first
date of the latest or most.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
I've always wondered how how much attention people pay to
those state legislations.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
So I think this audience uniquely probably knows. But I
think generally speaking, because you get so many emails and
the media is up there, so you just think there's
this much larger band of attention that's looking at what
we're doing with the emails would certainly suggest they are,
but I don't think I when I got out, I
was amazed at how life is just flying right by.

(25:46):
People really don't even really know that's happen.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
They have lives to live. It's so amazing.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
It's my duty, I feel, to let you know that
everybody started today. They're in the best of moods and
there's a lot of good aspirational.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Ceremony stuff going on, right Yeah, But they.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Both each is by the Senate President and the Speaker
of the House. We're really about Utah preparing for its future.
Infrastructure wise, we're growing state, but also power. I thought,
I thought President Stuart Adams speech about we you know,
we have to there's a race in the United States
on generating power. These modular nuclear you know modules that
they do that generates power. We can't have these big

(26:21):
data centers drawing so much of our power that our
power bills are going to go through the roots. There's
got to be some solutions there. It's good to hear
that the state of Utah is looking at how do
we how do we compete? How does the state stay
strong economically but not you know, splash a lot of
the downside onto the citizens of our state, which is
happening in a lot around the country.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Let's talk for a few minutes about that Cinderella story
that happened down in Miami last night. I what a game.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Well, I think it's a human interest talking about it today,
it is a human interest story. If you're not, if
you're not as glued to sports as you hear Rod
and myself are, or that I am. You are too, Rod,
this is a human interest story in that this this Mendoza,
this this kid. Okay, there was a fourth down play
in the fourth quarter where it's all it's for it's

(27:06):
for all the marbles. I mean, if he they could
get three points and be ahead, or he could they
could go for it and fourth down, and they had
about five yards to get the first down, twelve yards
to get a touchdown, and they call his number. He
and he's been beat up with this whole game by
these big, big Miami players. And this kid, this quarterback,
this kid takes that ball, he runs, he gets hit,
He gets hit by some of the biggest coke machines

(27:28):
with arms and lines you've ever seen. He then dives
into the end zone. He gets hit straight in the back,
holds onto the ball, touchdown. The fun story about him,
he's a Heisman Trophy winner, is that he tried to
walk on. He's from Miami. He tried to walk on.
They wouldn't let him be a walk on. He was
a two star they call five star recruits or your
big stars in high school. He was a two star

(27:48):
recruit who they wouldn't even let walk on to Miami,
goes to Indiana. Is there, starting quarterback comes back to
Miami in the Orange Bowl to beat the Miami Hurricane
for the National Championship. If you wrote this as a
story without it being true, you would say it's too fictitious.
It's actually too far out there. It can't it wouldn't.
It wouldn't be appealing because it's like a fairy tale.

(28:10):
It would be like a fantasy story. I just I
just can't get over that kid. I think he is
such an inspiration. And his mother has that mess. She's
in a wheelchair and she's a beautiful She said she
loves her son, and she and her husband sits and
when they cheer, he doesn't stand up because she can't
stand up.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
That's a story by itself. That's that's a story. I
think what drove him to the end zone. I shared
this with you before we started the show. If you
recall early in the game, he got nailed hard. He
got hit hard and illegally, illegally and bloodied his lip. Yes,
we're helmet to helmet, you know they were. There was
no doubt Miami's a tough physical team. Yes, they were

(28:47):
testing his medal. Well, this kid got up and they
kept on testing it all light as a matter of fact.
The postgame interview, I think someone said raise your arm,
and they showed that his arm was just badly bruised
from being beat up all night. I think Greg what
drove him to that end zone was he was going
to show those Miami players you cannot knock me down.
And he was even willing to sacrifice his body to

(29:09):
leap across that goal line. He got nailed. I was
surprised he held on to the ball and he scored
that touchdown. I think it is really a.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
He's a sweet kid. Like let me tell you something.
People call him nerdy, Yeah, that's nerdy, But here's what
I think is happening. I mean, I think that he
might be on the spectrum. I think we have a
lot of young boys that are being born they're on
the spectrum of autism. And I think that you're seeing
he talks so methodically and so technically and the way
he extribes things, and it does sound nerdy. It is
kind of nerdy, But this kid is just I mean,

(29:40):
his his heart is giant. You can tell he's got
a heart amount of a line. But he loves his
mother's There's just there's not a version of that of
that team. By the way, no one's ever gone I
think since Harvard back in or Yale back in the
eighteen hundreds have gone sixteen and I was a football
team undefeated, and for them to be I think they

(30:00):
won two games three years ago, or two or three games.
They won eleven games last year when undefeated this year
with really not any high you know, touted recruits you
know on their team again Signetti, their coach who's been
there for only two seasons. It is just things you
don't see in sports. They broke all the rules and
they did it in a fun way. Yeah, well, class ack,
this kid is okay. It was the game or two before.

(30:23):
It may have been in the Rose Bowl where that
game was over and he ran to thank the coach
from Alabama. He ran to think the coach from the
opposing team, right, he tried to do that last night.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Didn't happen. You know why. Carson Beck, the Miami quarterback,
just walked right off the field, went to the locker room. Yeah,
and he was looking for him, yep. And he just
walked off. And then you had the Fletcher kid, who
scored an unbelievable touchdown for Miami, getting into a fight
with one of the Indianapolis players threw a punch at
the kid. Come on, Miami, lah class.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Two things every time you interview Mendoza, he acknowledges the Lord.
First thing he says, the first thing out of his
mouth is he's thankful for the blessings and for his
Emily father. The second thing about that game that I
don't hear anyone talking about is that President Trump was there,
got a nice round of he got a giant, you
know round of applause there to see the game. And

(31:14):
you know, Mark Rubio, clearly Florida Senator, is for you know,
cheering for Miami, but he knows football really well. But
Mendos is the Miami kids. So you know they felt
like there was probably a win win there anyway.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, well, you know, America loves you know, comeback kids.
Stories come from behind story stories where kids that are
not supposed to win. I mean, like you said, they
didn't have a five star recruits on this team. They
played as a team, they played for Signetti, and I
tell you what, it is a story that America just
loved last night.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
I mean, today, the setback paves the way for the comeback,
and that's like you said, we love the Cinderella story,
we love the comeback. We we love it. And there's
no school like Indiana who's never won a Big Ten championship,
national championship.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
When they think of Indiana, what do you think?

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Basketball?

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Basketball Night, the Who's Your State? The chair across the
basketball them as a basketball power, a football power.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
They already had a movie. It was called Hoosiers, but
it was about basketball. But this, I don't think, folks,
we will ever see another college football team goes sixteen.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
To No, probably not not in this stand and even.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
With probably the best of players, not just the the
you know the players that they turned around and made
into these stars. So I great story, what a great night,
What a great story. And I bet you they make
a movie out of it. I'll bet you Hoosiers two
yeahs to the football version. It's coming. It'll come to
a theater near you.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
It was a great story and I hope everybody enjoyed it.
Now we get ready for the super Bowl here in
a couple of weeks after the conference champions championships this weekend.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
No, I think I think that's one of the things
that happens. We go and everything goes.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Hey, what, Yeah, we keep them on track.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
We do. I think it's a lot calmer world at least.
It's more you know, we can understand it, we can
break it down. If we're doing it Monday through Friday,
we miss a day. Goodbye. It just seems like when
the cats away, the mice.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Will play and they do well. Today, of course, marking
the first year of the President's second term back in
office again after a term absence, so to speak, the
President announced today I think it was DHS Department of
Homeland Security, that seven thousand Greg you're ready for this,
seven thousand illegal gang members have been rounded up and
put in jail in just a year. One good.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
I mean again, this is what I voted for.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Is this what you voted for?

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (33:34):
It is, yes, it is, yes, it is in spades, Yes,
this is what we voted for.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
And today alone there were fifty picked up in Minneapolis.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
And if you look at the rap sheets, I'm tired
of people that just keep saying, you know, these are innocent,
they're not even illegal, they're just immigrants, and they're not
they're innocent. Look at the rap sheets and all you
have to do for me on X you each Not
only does ICE have a site, but you'll find regions
or states or cities that have their own as well.
Look at the degenerates they're picking up off of the street.

(34:02):
Though you don't want anywhere near your family, your work,
your community, nowhere you are. It should just be a
simple thank you would be nice, Yeah, because these are
people that we should be doing nothing but thanking Ice
for what they're doing. To have them enduring what they
are for the good they're doing, it's very it's very difficult.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah. Well, Greg Guttfeld on The Five on Fox News yesterday,
we weren't here yesterday to catch it and share it
with you, but we wanted to do so today because,
let me tell you what. He nails it, Greg. He
goes after the people involved in the church attack, the
church protests Sunday in Minneapolis, and are the and the
women out there who are protesting Ice because ICE is

(34:44):
arresting people who would harm Women't I understand that? Listen
to this? I mean, he goes off on this monologue
going after Ice and people who are supporting the anti
ICE protest.

Speaker 6 (34:54):
This isn't about immigration, it isn't about Ice, it isn't
about Trump. It is about suicide, idle empathy that is
driven by a rescue fantasy. You have all of these young,
middle aged women going out there because they have some
kind of emptiness in their lives, that are going out
there in this kind of rescued delusion, helping people they

(35:17):
don't know, strangers who are guilty of crimes. How can
you defend that this is not protesters going to a church.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
That is a mob.

Speaker 6 (35:26):
The people that invented the phrase safe space are breaking
it up, frightening kids, right. These are the people that
call us fascists.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
And they're hunting people.

Speaker 6 (35:36):
These are the people that claim to defend women and
yet are defending men.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Who abuse women.

Speaker 6 (35:41):
These are the people that call us homophobic, and yet
they want to out ice guys for using I don't know,
gay sex apps. Let's be honest, here, fries a pussy.
He's scared of these people, or else he would stand
up for calling it love. There's no such thing as
a mob with love. And imagine showing this ape to
Don Lemon to ten years ago, fifteen years ago and saying,

(36:04):
is this where you saw yourself? Lemon crashing a church service,
scaring kids, attacking a pastor was this.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Your hope and dream? Now you know the Democrats are
hoping this whole ice issue will be a major factor
in the midterm elections. Greg they said, Aha, we've got
done other issue. We can go after Trump and the Democrats.
But listen to this poll and the results of this
poll from the Wall Street Journal. This is Fox News
and Brett Baer.

Speaker 7 (36:29):
You look at the latest Wall Street Journal poll Who's
best to handle immigration? Republicans in Congress forty four, Democrats
thirty three, economy thirty eight, thirty two, tariffs thirty six,
thirty four. I mean, it's one poll, but it shows
you that maybe it's not moving as much as people.

Speaker 8 (36:46):
Think it is now and situations like this with Don
Lemon and the church are not helpful. Look, I don't
believe that faith and politics are mutually exclusive. That people
who led the civil rights movement were church leaders.

Speaker 9 (36:58):
But this is not the civil rights movement. And this is.

Speaker 8 (37:00):
Harkening back to twenty twenty where we saw people from
outside of a community engage in civil unrest and leave.

Speaker 9 (37:06):
Don Lemon doesn't live in Minnesota.

Speaker 8 (37:08):
He is not going to help that community heal and
get put back together.

Speaker 9 (37:11):
And people are watching.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
All right, Greg, I get a sense that what is
taking place now in Minneapolis has the same feel of
the George Floyd riots back in twenty twenty. You know,
at first people were paying attention to it. Now people
are getting a little disgusted with this. And yes they're
upset at ICE and maybe some of the tactics that
ICE is using. But you know what, they see these

(37:33):
protesters going to a church and stopping a church service, scaring,
as you mentioned, you kids in the background crying, Yes, now,
what's going on? You see people walking down the street
in Minneapolis being verbally assaulted by people saying do you
support ICE? If you don't support ICE, you don't believe
in the constitution. I mean, they rent in front of you.

(37:55):
And the American people are seeing this thanks to social media,
because the major networks aren't covering this, and they're they're
saying this is going way too far.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Well, there's two things going on. I think that the
latter part of the George Floyd riots, where we started
to see that they were just in the in the
business of causing chaos and and and and fomenting fear
for political reasons, that that part we're seeing. I don't think.
I don't think that ICE is done. I don't know
that even if people try to tell you that they're
acting well, I think they know they're being watched. I

(38:24):
think they're acting by the book. And if you're going
to drive a car straight out an ICE agent, he's
going to stop. He's going to defend himself. He's gonna
try and stop what's happening. But I'll say this, when
when it was around Christmas time, when Governor Wall said,
you know, these ICE agents are so diabolical, they're so
bad that they I we could see and we should
expect them to come into places of worship and interrupt

(38:45):
our places of worship as ICE agents. Okay, no, they're people.
He and his anti ICE crowd. They're interrupting places of worship.
He should have as much contempt and should be condemning
and should have already condemned these actions the day they
happened on Sunday, because, according to him, if you if
you dare go into a place of worship, even to

(39:07):
enforce the law that was that was low, that's something
you shouldn't do. Well. When the ICE, when these anti
ICE protesters interrupt this this congregation to services. He hasn't.
They don't have any problem with it. In fact, John Lemon,
like like Greg Getfield said, he's a shell of himself.
There's no way that that's First Amendment.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
Right.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Here's the last thing I'll just say real quick. The
attorney general of that state, that was his name, Elis.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yeah, he is.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
He is a complete idiot. Okay. He said, there's a
there's a federal law that prohibits this, yes, okay.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
And because we can't go into abortion clinics and do this,
that's rastic.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
It's called the Face Act. Okay. It was passed in
nineteen ninety four, this Face Act, and the liberals are
quick to mention this when it talks to you know,
what they call reproductive health facilities. That's what they call
it in law. Okay. So anytime there's an abortion clinic,
don't you dare walk inside and start to protest or
to disrupt, because you are breaking federal law and they

(40:04):
will tell you all about it. In fact, that's what
this Attorney general Minnesota does. That only applies to to worship,
you know, reproductive health facilities. That's the only thing it does. Actually,
it's the only part you've ever cared about what the
law actually says, verbatim prohibits use or threat or of force,
physical obstruction, or intimidation at places of worship and reproductive

(40:27):
health facilities. This Attorney General of the State of Minnesota
has no idea that places of worship are listed or
in that face Act.

Speaker 9 (40:36):
He doesn't even know.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
He doesn't know. The federal law has been violated, and
it has been broken, and they should, they should prosecute
these clowns.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
I hope they do. I really hope they do. All Right,
We've got more to more to say and more to
come on the Rotten Greg Show in Utah's Talk radio
one oh five nine k n R S.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
We, the people of Utah expect to see lower gas
prices when we have all this supply chain infrastructure in
our own state. Just looked the average, you know, gallon
of gas in Colorado that has no refineries, no wells, nothing,
pipelines like everything we have, they don't. They're at two
sixty a gallon. I just looked up gas Buddy, and
you're still around three bucks a gallon. It might be

(41:16):
a little under in some places, but I'm telling you
we are higher with all of this infrastructure in place
than Blue State Colorado two doesn't work. And then when
you go on to Filmore where they're actually having competition
because they got an out of state, brand new commedian
store that wants to get capture market share. Well they're
doing what the rest of comedian stores around America do?
They lower their price. So where's a Maverick do They're

(41:38):
across the freeway they're lowering. There is the cheapest gas
to be found in all the state is in Fillmore, Utah.
That there's something up with that.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
You know, I don't see anything on this list about
lowering gas prices. I'm talking about this list of issues
that Utah's are concerned about.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Well, they clearly have not spoken to me our our audience,
because I think our audience, we're tracking our our audience. Well,
we're tired of the higher gas prices. Now, I think
they when sessions come around, don't be surprised, folks when
you see these these prices miraculously drop as well. But
we are still higher than some of our states who
there's no rhyme or reason for the.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Well here's the issue. The Desert News. Hinkley did this
survey thinking about the legislative session, which of the following,
if any, should be a top priority of lawmakers. Number one,
affordable housing. State can't do anything about that.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Don't want the state to turn into housings ours. I'm
to do The only thing that is the only proper
role of government is infrastructure, roads, sewer, gutter, things like
that in areas where maybe there hasn't been something built,
but not in the watut trunk. I think we checked
the box on growth in these four counties. It's time
for we have twenty nine counties. It's time to see
growth and gout. And you know in some of these

(42:47):
small counties, they're losing their young people because they have jobs.
Go go get some infrastructure there where some homes can
be built. They're less expensive than they are here. It'll
draw people to want to stay living in Utah, but
not at such a high expense.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Thirteen percent said healthcare.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Yeah, yeah, Obamacare.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Just what can this state do it? I mean, Obamacare
is so ingrained into this system. I don't know if
there's much you can.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Do that socializement, but it's killing us. I think the
subsidies that they were supposed to be emergency of sub
subsidies for COVID. You can't bring them back permanently under
without intake. Just take the word emergency off and just
keep subsidizing it to a high, higher level. It's just
there needs to be I think those savings accounts we've
talked about on the show, but there is some reform
that has to be done there that could be done,

(43:28):
could be done federally and I think yeah, and state wide,
and that's these healthcare savings accounts, things like that, catastrophic insurance,
something less than what we're doing now.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Mike Schulz mentioned this today in his remarks water in
the Great Salt Lake. Yes, key issue. Eleven percent. Here
you go, this kind of fits into what you're talking about.
Ten percent. Want tax cuts could be in the form
of a gas.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Tax reduction, Yes, I want less. I don't want to
price fix the gas if I'm mad that the gases
cost too much, I just want to cut the tax.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah, preparing for a threat of recession. Nine percent. Yes,
state can hold down costs as much you know, the
cost of running government can be held down.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
It can. And here's one of the little budgetary things
that Utah I think does uniquely. By the way, we
have a We have a non partisan staff on fiscal issues.
So a lot of states have a majority if they're
staff and a minority staff and they fight about numbers.
We have a can we have consensus numbers that are
non partisan staff. But what we do is we have
rainy day funds. We set aside money that comes in

(44:26):
even that's higher than even if we think it's ongoing,
meaning that it's it's money that was from income tax
or something. If it's higher than like a normal trajectory
of what we think we would accept, they take that
extra and they place it into a savings account. So
we have a lot of savings in our state.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Seven percent say homelessness.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, if you live in Salt Lake City, it is
lawlessness and drug cartels run on that show.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Five percent say public education.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
I'm surprised that's so low. Usually that's a lot higher.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Redistricting only two percent, No, one percent, I'm sorry, one percent.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Oh, then I reject the whole pole percent one percent.
The Democrats just stole one of our four seats from us.
I mean they had ski that's still it's double. But no,
it's still too low. I mean the Democrats they that redistricting,
so called committee that better boundaries, they had ski masks on,

(45:20):
guns in their hands, and they hijacked and stole from
us one of our congressional seats or up till now.
We'll see what happens now.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
One interesting thing, Greg, we've talked about this is literacy,
and another poll that's dealing with it again. People were asked,
are do you think holding back kids for a year
and third grade is what they're talking about if they aren't,
you know, if they aren't reading profession and let's see
a third thirty eight percent, where is it? Thirty eight

(45:46):
percent more than a third believe they need to be
more strict and hold kids back. Another approchment, thirty four
percent said the standards are too high. They're talking about standards, now,
what about holding kids back? Greg? Let me see. Forty
one percent of Republicans say the current standards need to
be more strict. Well, a thirty six percent believe they're

(46:07):
about right. But there's a real split among parents out there.
Do we hold a kid back or do we let
them go?

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Well, I don't think when they're asked that question, they're
given this foundational fact if that.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
That we're falling behind.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Forty eight percent of our kindergartener's first graders, second third,
and fourth graders are not reading at the grade level
they are expected to read at to be able to
move forward to the next grade forty eight percent. If
you know that's the case, you certainly can't say our
standards are too high if forty eight percent are not
a grade level, If you're not a grade level, they're

(46:41):
statistically speaking, you never read to learn if you're never
if you're always struggling, struggling to be literate. So I
think that holding back because this is something that was
just a norm when I was growing up. It doesn't
We don't have to just contemplate a but forty eight
percent of these kids being held back. But what we
can contemplate is the urgency to do better, the need

(47:04):
to be able to be ready to go to the
next grade so that you don't flunk and that you
aren't held back. There is an amazing I think motivation
to actually study harder, to get ready to be grade
level so that you're not held back. And I think
that inherently just that alone, not wanting that because who
you're asking me, all, do you think your kids should
be held back?

Speaker 10 (47:22):
No?

Speaker 1 (47:22):
One wants their kid held back. No one's going to
say yes to that, but the prospect of it can
be the impetus to make sure we're focusing on the
right things.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Does some state have a right to tell you you
have told your d absolutely, you think they do.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Well, unless we don't think that, unless we're holding the
state to no standard that we want these kids literate
and ready for the world once they're done K through twelve.
If we think they're preparing them for life in the workplace,
you got to have standards, and you got to hold
those students those standards. If we're expecting public head to
produce these kids that are going to be productive members
of society. So I think, absolutely they you should. But

(47:56):
I don't think you would see the numbers you're seeing
forty eight percent aren't grade ready if there was a
consequence for not being grade ready, I think. I think.
I think it's sober, everybody up, everybody work a little
harder these kids. I tell you that was my that
was my motivation. I was book to hold that. It
wasn't book where I did not want to get held back.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Mary coming up, Rod and Greg with you on this
Tuesday and Talk Radio one oh five nine can Arres.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
I didn't. I didn't like actually being off yesterday because
I wanted to come. Yeah, because of what happened over
the weekend. I was so upset. I really did want
to come and talk to our listeners, which we haven't
actually heard from our listeners about whether it's the the
you know, the the church being stormed and interrupted in
UH in Minneapolis, and how far these the leftists have gone.
I think they've lost their moorings. I think they've lost

(48:42):
I can't imagine that Middle America. Every day, normal Americans
are watching any of that and they're okay with it.
I can't imagine it. But I'd love to hear from
our our listeners on that issue, or even the one
we're talking about on this holding back third grader. Yeah,
if you don't, if you can't read by third grade,
because that's the key. After third you read to learn.
So if you're not, if you don't know how to read,

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if you're not at grade level at third grade, you
will be behind the curve. Statistics say the rest of
your time in school, tell you you're a graduate, you'll
have an individual education plan, special education. If you're not
reading a grade level. So is the answer that you
hold back or there's the prospect of being held back
if you're not at grade level. Will that get we
get those proficiency numbers up? Because right now, if you

(49:23):
told me, we will. Everyone used to say, Rod And
when I was in the legislature that Utah was an
unfair example for the country because we didn't have these.
We were a bit homogeneous, and our household incomes were
a little higher. We didn't have to change. So they said, hey,
you know, Utah is not the same. Everyone's going to
do a lot better in school statistically forty eight percent
not being at grade level kindergarten through fourth You don't

(49:44):
get that is I don't know why how it could
get worse than that. That to me has to be
a bottom. You have to come up from there.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
I think incentives are important. I have one of my
granddaughters right is ripping through the Harry Potter books.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
She's read it, and you know why. Her mother says,
you can't watch the movies until you read the books. Nice,
see so and she wants to watch the movies. So
she's got over the weekend. I said, you almost finished
two of these on the weekend, and she did because
she has some incentive to read books.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
So there was a time in the eighties Ibery works. Yeah, this,
I might, this might not be good to admit. But
in the eighties there was this interesting thing in literature
in bookstores where they would take movies and you could
literally get a book of the movie that came out.
You could read it. You could read it as a
novel form. Oh okay, So I was too young to

(50:35):
watch the Dirty Harry movies Clint Eastwood, but I could
buy the book and I.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Could read the book.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
I'd read the books on Dirty Harry as a kid,
I would. Yeah, And you know, so, yeah, there was that.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
On social media, they'll pop up something from you ever
heard that before? It's all no, I've never heard that.
The beginning of the movies, the one I think it's
the first movie where he's sitting down having a hot
dog and he tells the guy call this number I
think a robberies and progress, and he says to himself,
I hope they don't do anything. I gotta eat this
hot dog. He takes one bite and goes off. So

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you'll see occasionally you read Dirty Harry.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Books for sudden the movie Sudden Impact. I couldn't get
the movie packed. And I remember reading that.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Book Dirty Harry. The first one was the best. Yeah,
a great, great, great movie. And Eastwood it's now mid nineties.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
I know he's still he's still ticking though, Yeah, he
sure is.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
All right, more coming up, we'll talk about the invasion
of the Minnesota church. Now, why the media is ignoring it.
Surprised that'll come out next.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
You know what, if you need something done, give it
to a busy person, they always say, really that, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
I've never heard that. Why because they get it done?

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Yeah they do. Because they're busy. They know how to
get things accomplished. That excludes us to Yeah, I always
hear that saying, and I think, huh, now, but he
actually when when I was the busiest, I did the most.
Imagine that. Yeah, I see the correlation there.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Yeah, sure, sure, all right. Let's talk about the incident
the church in Saint Paul. Over the weekend, we had
a church where a group of what are they saying,
about fifty protesters they've been around about that number night
went into the church and disrupted services, scaring women and children.
Don Lemon apparently had something to do with this. He

(52:20):
knew about it, let me put it that way, you know,
but it's getting very little coverage other than conservative media,
conservative news like Fox News covering this on social media,
but getting very very little coverage. Graig, Well, right, surprise.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Yeah, they're probably ashamed of it, and if Don Lemon
actually had a real job, he'd be fired from that
job for his conduct over the weekend. But I do
think that they're trying to hide this because it's such
a horrible look. But it really is site. It's a
window into their soul. And thank goodness there was video
so that we can see what really happened.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, joining us on our Newsmaker line to
talk about that angle of the story is Curtis how
Key's the managing editor of NewsBusters and the Media Research Center.
How are you welcome back to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 5 (53:03):
Pleasure to be with you guys again.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
And let me ask you, Curtis, how much I mean
the prime, the big networks, the regime media is we
like to call it. Are they ignoring this Minnesota church story?

Speaker 5 (53:14):
Initially they were, However, they might as well be still
at triple zeros because I mean it's thirty seconds there,
fifteen seconds there, you know, maybe twenty seconds there. What
they're doing, guys, is they're paying lip service. I think
hoping that you know, people like me and my colleagues
at NewsBusters in our newsroom will fat them on the

(53:37):
head and say they're doing a good job, you know,
by mentioning this after initially being silent on Monday morning.
But the reality is what they're doing and they were
just doing this. I mean it hasn't aired for you
all yet, but the nightly newscasts that are about to
be coming up your neck of the woods, they just
they decided that we're gonna mention it, but we're gonna

(53:58):
spend way more time, probably twice as much time. It's
not more talking about oh that guy in Laos that
got from Laost that got dragged out by his underwear
or whatever because they were looking because they were looking
for sex offenders as how oh my gosh, all americson
how terrible was it, Oh my gosh, it's awful, you know,
or that woman who was claiming that like basically I'm autistic,

(54:20):
I'm disabled, I'm trying to get to my therapist or whatever.
You know, they're way more concerned about that than what
actually happened, because you know, in the prevailing notion if
you go over to Cable and Don Lemon himself is well,
you know, these people deserved it because now they got
it taste in their own medicine. And you know, sure
those kids are traumatized now, but like you know, they're

(54:42):
not dead, so it's fine. I mean, what a logic,
what a massive giganticological fallacy that is.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Yeah, I will say this that if you have the
regime media like CNN or someone that does dare delve
into this, they're leftist legal analysts. They can't cover for
Don le and are these people they're saying, Look, the
Face Act is pretty it's pretty black and white. It
says that you cannot do what they're doing in a
place of worship or reproductive health facilities. Did left always

(55:10):
likes to talk about the abortion clinics, but somewhere in
their minds they forgot that in the same federal law
includes places of worship. So what the person I saw
on CNN said is I hope they have attorneys, so.

Speaker 5 (55:22):
Me, I don't think well, And even that clip was
very groveling, like yes, oh my goodness, you know, I
wonder you wonder, guys, did they think that a in
face meant like abortion? You know, like what they set
what they think like, oh, the face Act is about
abortion clinics. Actually, no, guys, it's about a whole bunch

(55:42):
of things.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
It really is, Curtis. Do they do they even mention
the name Don Lemon in any of their reporting?

Speaker 5 (55:49):
No, exactly, And that's the point ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN,
MS NOW is now. Really it's only showing up on
Fox News, Usmax. I mean really only centrist network, non
conservative network that's mentioning this is news Nation, which I mean, folks,
if you want to look at a non conservative news network,

(56:11):
I can put the song with my wife and not
want to throw the remote at the TV to see
Fredo Cuomo be slightly more like toned down, like someone
gave him doggy downers or.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Something like that.

Speaker 5 (56:21):
Just give your dogs for a road trips, you know.
I mean, that's the kind of thing I mean, I mean,
it's good stuff there. But other than that, guys, know,
Don Lemon is not a story in this which I
think will change if he is charged. And folks, anyone's
saying harmeat, Dillon needs to get with the program.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Guys.

Speaker 5 (56:40):
Yesterday was a federal holiday, so you can't really go
before judged, your grand jury all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
So I do that's I guess That's what I was
gonna ask you, Christ Do you do think that they'll
be there's I think federal laws have broken. I think that,
you know, if if she was on the other foot,
you would see people charge for breaking federal law, especially
if it was an abortion clinic. So are we gonna
see charges? Do you think yes?

Speaker 5 (57:05):
I Mean, the amazing thing about this, guys, is if
there were just random perishoners who whipped out their cell phones,
or random protester here or there, it kind of would
be he said, she said, And I would probably say no.
But the fact that Don Lemon had a live stream
both before, during, and after he was on on Sunday
guys for seven hours seven hours, so as a gold mine.

(57:28):
He even brought like Starbucks in one of those like
carrier mugs, you know, to go like for them. He
like kisses on the cheek for the one civil rights attorney.
I mean, come on, I mean, it's all over the place.
I mean, because of that, he unintentionally screwed his fellow
leftists on this one, and for him to be like, well,

(57:49):
I'm just independent journalists, and these were independent journalists too.
I have friends that are independent journalists, like my friend
Julio Roshaws, who's in like the riots out there. He
had to flee on Saturday because they I did him.
He's a longtime friend of mine. He is an independent
journalist because he documents what's going on and lets people
decide for themselves, whereas Don Lemon is pushing an explicit

(58:10):
agenda and the point of helping people further narratives, and
he's just playing the victim. I think that's just ridiculous.
They're like, he's targeting me because I'm blocking gay. No,
because you were a dufits to the pastor and you
have the fall on camera where everyone's admitting to the
crimes that they're committing. So first you're going to be
a central focus.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Yes, why have to admit I thought the minister played
this great. I mean, he remained calm, he didn't get
upset with this. I thought he played it great, didn't you?

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (58:37):
Absolutely? I mean, And of course that's the other thing,
because Don Lemon has not been mentioned in the broadcast hour. Therefore,
the pastor has not come up either, So I think
that's important too, because they're not showing the contrast about
what's going on here. They're just like, oh, the Justice Department, Oh,
they're getting off the schneid by investigating this. But they're

(58:59):
not in this gating the officer for murdering, you know,
renee good guys. I mean, like, okay, two wrongs don't
make a right, you know, like, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Hate I hate investigating firefighters for putting out fires. I
hate investigating law enforcement for enforcing laws. But let me
ask you this, and I know the answer is not already,
But if someone were to enter a mosque and do
every single thing that Don Lemon and that and that
mob did in that place of worship, that Christian place

(59:29):
of worship, if you just changed the people and you
changed the place of worship, what how do the Democrats
selectively choose their outrage and their logic. What do they
say in that moment in contrast to we think it's
fine in its First Amendment rights to invade and to
disrupt a Christian service? What would they say? How would
they justify the objection they'd have if you were to

(59:50):
go in and interrupt a mosque a service inside of
a mosque.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
Oh, that'd be of a plastic right now, you'd have
the Anderson Cooper doing a keeping them honest common to
what kind of country is this? Or Jake Tapper doing
what he calls a murrow where he tensively looks into
the camera and occasionally cocks his head to kind of
talk about what kind of country are we? I mean,
give me, give me a break, you know, remember guys,

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George W. Bush went to mosque after nine to eleven
and basically was like, don't attack Muslims, guys, and and
so I feel like the other question I have to
say is how would these journalists feel if this was
done to them. I mean, everyone should just be left alone.
But I know that they would hate it if someone
stormed their newsroom because people just said, we don't like

(01:00:37):
what you're doing here.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Yeah, that's true. Curtis is always great insight, great appreciate
your knowledge on this. Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
Always a pleasure. Guy's taking care of.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Lois Curtis how Man, editor of NewsBusters at the Media
Research Center, talking about the the incidant at the church.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
The way. Yeah, that's good fun you're not falling me
out of phone. The NewsBusters is great.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
They are a good good news Sorry boy, coming up,
it is the Rodd and Greg Show on Talk Radio
one five nine a n R S. How do they
cram those two bodies into one room.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
It's crowded the Yeah, they put a bunch of chairs
and sides and some don't come. But yeah, no they
get them to get all the So you want to know,
you want a little inside baseball. It's always been a
little bit of a rub on the House side that
when we have the stay of the State, that the
Senate President gavels in the meeting and in the House chair.

(01:01:32):
So I wasn't offended, but it is odd to dam
might do in the House chamber. You doing the House.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Chamber because it's bigger, because it's bigger.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
And the Senate President gavels in the meeting, the Joint Session,
and he has to use at the time my gavel
to gavel in the body in the House chamber, which
seemed a little bit of an interloper. It didn't seem
like that the Senate President should be, you know, calling
that to order. But you know, I'm not dramatic, so

(01:01:59):
I was I don't want to be a drama queen
about it all, so I just let it slide. But
it's it's been a point of discussion.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
You get to.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
I, did you stole the I don't know what there
the president was. I didn't ask. I just know that
I really loved my gavel. But I gave the incoming
speaker after I left, Brad Wilson, who's the majority leader.
When I was speaker, I had a very beautiful gable
made for him. Okay, well that I gave him as

(01:02:28):
a gift to gavel the one you saw. And I
have the gavel that I was able to use for
four years and it is big, by the way, I
felt like thor it was awesome. I could swing that around.
I can make circles with it. Yeah, you should see.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Do you ever want to throw it at anybody?

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Now? But I would swing it around and I like
to hit it hard to people. Some people would jump it.
I like, I like to really gabble it in.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
All right, we want to get back to the Minnesota
church story because there was a a a man on
social media today we don't know who he is. He
doesn't identify himself, but we've been talking Greg about what
would happen if this mob that went into a church
in Saint Paul on Sunday? What if they went into
a synagogue, maybe a Muslim gathering place. What would have

(01:03:12):
happened to him? And then you brought up the fact
what would have happened if they had invaded a predominantly
black church. Yes, well this man has an answer. Listen
to this.

Speaker 10 (01:03:23):
Yeah, don lemon knew better than to go to a
black church. He would have never tried that. It would
have been a totally different scenario that would have happened,
totally different outcome. Because we don't play about stuff like that.
You're not going to come in and you think he
would have got an interview? Are you kidding me? He
wouldn't have got past the Aunties at the front. They

(01:03:46):
would have shut that down. He's not even getting in
through the front door. Yeah, we don't play in the
name of Jesus, he wouldn't have got in. He's talking
about dudes reform from the streets. Given the testimony, Aunties
never gave up on them. You're gonna assert yourself into
that situation, bro, I'll be I'm scared to have my
phone on the ring when I when I'm at church,

(01:04:09):
this is a different it's a different atmosphere.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:04:12):
I don't even want to say what would have happened
that day, but a lot of righteous indignation would have
went down. We would have righteously indignated that whole situation,
shut it all down. You think he's gonna lean into
a black pastor, He's gonna lean in like that, tell him, hey,
don't touch me, and lean in on him with his

(01:04:32):
auntie watching in the front row.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
You think he's gonna do that?

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Bro?

Speaker 10 (01:04:38):
I would I would pay. I would pay pay per view.
I would I would pay to see that. Don lemon
knew better. He would have never done that. Broh, he knows.
He's not dumb.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
I'm telling you, he laid it out. I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Righteous indignated them right out of there. So wait, my grandma,
when we would walk, you know, into town, we used
to walk past the Baptist church and in the choir
would practice and sing, and you know, we would walk
past the doors to be open, and my grandma would
show me her arm and she'd have chills, just chills
because the was so beautiful and there was so much
emotion and spirit from that bit. Those aunties he's talking

(01:05:18):
about are tougher than the unks, the uncles. Okay, the
aunties are are very tough, and they would not be
That is the house of the Lord, and it was
It's very sacrilegious and disrespectful, and they would have there
would have been righteous indignation. I can just I can
see it with my own eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
I Oh, here's what I envisioned. I could see one
of those aunties grabbing Don Lemon by the ear.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
You know the way your mother used to grab you
by the ear and me and just yanking that man
out of the church. Yep, and the riot.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
You've seen Don Lemon, he is weak as water. He
had have just gone right, whether she would, he wouldn't
have put up a fight. He had just done as told.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
He would have, all right, Apparently, Greg Democrats. Democrats are
afraid to who tell the difference between a man and
a woman.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Yeah, because I refuse to believe they don't know. They
act like they don't know. They're just they're just afraid
of the crazy bass to say.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Yeah they are. We'll get into that coming up next
on the Tuesday edition of The Rod and Gregg Show
and Talk Radio one oh five nine knrs and twenty.
You know, isn't it amazing Greg these days that we're
living in a moment now where some Democrats are having
difficult giving a straight answer to one of the most
basic questions in human history? What is a woman?

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
I know, it's a pretty basic question. You know, you
think this is a you think that's a Saay Live
skit or a comedy skit, but it's actually truth in
an actual serious public policy in American twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Well, I think most Americans right feel that the answer
is rather obvious, but there are Democrats who keep trying
to tie themselves in knots because they don't want to
answer that basic question. Joining us on our Newsmaker line
to talk more about that is Andrew Styles. He's a
senior writer at the Washington Free Beacon. Apparently there was
a survey done out there. Andrew, how are you? Thanks

(01:07:05):
for joining us and what did the survey show?

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
So? Oh yeah, glad to be here. This was a
report in Axios that asked all about twenty of the
Democrats who are thinking about running for president in twenty
twenty eight, asked them a few basic questions like what
is a woman? Tena man become a woman? Should you

(01:07:29):
know biological men play women's sports and so on, And
they got three responses out of twenty, and some sort
of wishy washy responses at that. I think Ram Emmanuel
was the own Obama's former chief of staff, was the
only one who said no and no. The rest did

(01:07:49):
not want to respond because I don't think Democrats really
want anything to do with this question. They don't have
a great answer, I think, and it's an eighty two
issue in most polls, and it's just kind of a
preview of what I keep thinking is going to be
a really ridiculous Democratic primary coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
So there's always a pivot everybody, you know, in a primary,
they go to their left or to their right, and
then when they get to a general election they then
pivot back to the center. How in the world do
you pivot from I have no clue what a woman
or a man is or I think it's whatever. It's fluid,
it can be whatever you want. What does the pivot
look like to get back to normalcy, to be to

(01:08:32):
be actually a candidate that the independence would want to
vote for, or even maybe Republicans that would consider a
Democrat on the ballot, how do they what would they say?

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
I mean, I don't even know. Because it's on this
issue the Democrats are sort of all over and mixed
up with what they claim to be the Party of Science,
and they give this sort of weird anti scientific ViBe's
the answer about being a woman is whatever you want

(01:09:04):
it to be, or however you feel. Then with a
sports issue, there supposedly the feminist party and they're saying, no,
wait a minute, girls have to play with boys now
and changing their locker rooms.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
And I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
These are kind of, like you said before, simple questions
that there's not a lot of wiggle room or pivot
or moderation. It's kind of a yes or no thing.
And the minute you start trying to explain or go
into a long winded answer, I think voters can just
clock that this person is forward.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Yeah. Well, Andrew, as you point out that this is
not only a cultural debate, which it is. It affects
policy like policies and sports, prisons, healthcare, and education. It
affects everything, Yet they can't answer the question.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
It affects everything, and even the a lot of people
saying that the can a man become a woman is
not necessarily a policy question, but it's how you answer
that as a candidate kind of tell like tells voters,
you know, like, do you have a clear view of

(01:10:20):
what it should be a simple answer or are you
just kind of like a weasly politician who's going to
come up with some nonsense. Are you beholden to this
twenty percent if that of liberal activists who are are
pushing the Democrats on this issue kind of insanely tell

(01:10:42):
just your answer to that question, which is not necessarily
policy related, I think tells voters a lot. Then you
get into the policy questions and you know they don't
have a good answer because they're on the wrong side
of the issue.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
So, you know, I keep hearing about it is the
midterms his shtorically speaking president, the party that wins the
White House, that party doesn't typically do well in the midterms.
But Republicans and some Republicans are really disappointing me on
some of the minibus you know, legislation or bill that
they passed and things like that. But when you get
down to an issue like you're discussing right now, Republicans

(01:11:18):
versus who Because I don't know that the Democrats have
a very high approval rating in Congress at all. I
don't know that anyone's buying this story of we don't
know what a woman is. I think it shows such
they're just ingenuous. What is it? What is a Republican's
biggest threat in the midterms? If lunacy seems to be
the state of play for the Democrats.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
I think it's it's going to come down to which
party do you hate more and who's going to turn
out to vote? And you know it if things typically
one won't go well for Republicans in the midterm like this.
But if you look at the single issue polling on

(01:11:57):
things like crime, immigration, probably throw the transgender issue in
there to Democrats or voters hate Republicans or trust Republicans
more than Democrats. On a lot of these key issues,
Democrats might win on I don't know. They might not
even be winning on climate change or something like that. Now,

(01:12:21):
they're just winning on there they oppose Trump, and if
enough people are getting tired of Trump, then you know
they could do well. But I don't think it's necessarily
a given right now. It's just kind of a race
to the bottom and we'll see who comes out on top.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Unfortunately, a race to the bottom is a good way
to put it. Andrew, always you're a chatty with you.
Thanks and enjoy the rest of.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
The race we can win.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Ye yeah, I agree, all right, Andrews.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Thank you. Andrew Styles, senior writer at the Washington Free Beacon.
Talking about this new this survey, they ask twenty potential
candidates greg on the Democratic side, who names have been
tossed around as being a possible presidential candidate, and only
one was willing to say what a woman is, and
that was Romney Manuel.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Yeah. Well, and I'll tell you what I think John
Federerman would be another one that in the Senate where
it would actually say it, you know. And but no,
I don't think they're going to I think they're going
to pivot to this far left. Uh, they're unhinged. I
mean they're not, they're not. And I just don't think
the normal people of America forget politics and parties. I
don't think normal America is buying any of this, nor
wants any part of it. So let them just keep,

(01:13:29):
you know, trying to appease that base. It's not going
to I don't think it's going to get them anywhere.
I wouldn't imagine that it would.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
What are they so afraid of of just coming out
and say, I'll tell you the difference here it is.
What are they so afraid of?

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
The base?

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
Is that it?

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
Yeah, they'll they think they'll lose a primary and not
be in a general election where they will get in
front of independence and everybody. No normal, normal, normal people.
But but you know what it's. It's it shows that
the calculus to win is more important than the truth. Truly,
that's what That's what it shows. If you can tell
me what a man or a woman is, then you
you really aren't an honest broker. You're not someone you

(01:14:04):
want someone who's a public servant, who's going to tell
you the truth, even the uncomfortable truth. Whether you're a
woman or a man, shouldn't be that uncomfortable, but it
seems to be. But you should be able to do it.
And if you can't, then I don't know that you
should be in a position of trust.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
If they can't define that and answer that question, how
do we expect them to find define issues on crime,
on immigration, on the economy, If they can't define a
very I mean, that's the most basic question I think
out there. If they can't define that, should we expect
them to define anything else.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
It's such a great point because they'll use the same
I'm afraid of the base argument to not confront violent crime,
to not confront, you know, enforcing the law, to not
confront this push for lawlessness that we're seeing. If you
can't answer that question, then everything the base is pushing today,
you're gonna end up being You're gonna you're going to
be part of that problem. I just think. And then,

(01:14:55):
so why are you running if that's your deal? Well,
for the power that I guess comes with that office.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Did you see what Chuck Schumer said over the weekend
some form or something now that they will cut back,
they will eliminate any cut that Doge did when Donald
Trump would So folks, get ready, larger government coming your
way again.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
If the Democrats went I'll tell you there's some Republicans too,
that one that had been tempted to go that way too.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Yeah, unfortunately, yeah, yeah, all right. More coming to the
final segment of the Rod and Greg Show with you
right here on Utah's Talk Radio one. Oh five nine, Okay,
an right, How has America changed in the first year.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
I think I remarkably. I think that we're I think
the border has had a ripple effect, a positive ripple
effect where closing that border, enforcing the law and not
letting that border be open, that has improved with a
self two million self deportations and also enforcing the law.
I think it's it is having a positive effect on crime.
I think our homicide rate in this country is lower

(01:15:53):
than it's ever been. We're seeing at the the economy.
We're seeing unemployment, we're seeing what was taking up employment
opportunities with these open borders. In every state being a
border state, we're seeing employment prospects better. We're seeing housing
prospects better. We're seeing our educational None of these are
rosy or perfect. But if you're asking me what's the
difference from before he took off is till today, I

(01:16:15):
would tell you all of those things that were being
drugged down have stopped being drugged down, and we're starting
to see that comeback. And so I think that I
think there's a strong economy that we're starting to feel.
I think that our tax returns will be stronger. So
the big beautiful bill. We've still not fell all that.
So I just think that we got inflation and under

(01:16:35):
three percent, we have lower interest rates, We've got we've
got on shoring of industry coming into this country. We
have public safety improving. So I think it's where are
we not better?

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Yeah? Well, I'm going to take a different take, and
I agree with everything that you're saying, Greg, But here's
what I feel. Democrats love to tear down America. Yes, okay.
I think Donald Trump in his first year the time around,
has made us feel more patriotic. You know, I think

(01:17:06):
that we can take pride in being He's been strong
against Europe. Case in Point Greenland right now. You know
Europe's doing what do we do here? You know they
don't know how to handle someone. I just think if
it's okay now to be patriotic. And when Joe Biden
was in the White House, when Barack Obama was in
the White House, you know you were looked down if

(01:17:27):
you supported the military, or if you stood up for
the flag, or if you cheered as veterans march past
you in a parade on July fourth. Not anymore. I
think Americans feel more patriotic today because of Donald Trump.
And I love the fact, Greg, I'll be honest with you,
he shows up at major sporting events or major events.
He was at the game last.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
Night, YEP National Championship, and he has applauded. It's not
there's not it's not mixed.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
It is oh yeah, that was a mixed response.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
Sure, and approval. And he gets that where he goes.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
So how he has changed America a couple of words.
I think I think he's made us feel more patriotic
and take pride in what America is all about.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
As we get ready to celebrate two fifty you know what,
and I'm telling you part of that pride for me
and feeling more patriotic is we're seeing America's leadership lead
again a Middle East, Yes, where we where we see
these Middle Eastern countries following Trump and supporting him. You
see him go and and whether it's Asia, whatever tour
he's done around this world, you see yes, I mean

(01:18:30):
you see that, You see that people want to be
want to be part of the solution with him and
not against him. I concur watch.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
How he leads doubles in the next couple of days.
It will be interesting, all right. That does it for
us Tonight, had Op shoulders back, and God bless you
and your family this wonderful country of hours. Enjoy your evening.
We're back tomorrow

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