Rod and Greg Show Daily Rundown – Wednesday, November 6, 2024
4:20 pm: Congressman John Curtis, now Senator-elect, joins the show to discuss his victory, as well as get his reaction to Donald Trump’s victory and what it means for America moving forward.
4:38 pm: State Senator Mike Kennedy, now the Congressman-elect in Utah’s 3rd congressional district, joins the program to discuss his next steps as he prepares to move to Washington, D.C.
5:05 pm: Carolyn Phippen, Executive Director of the Freedom Front of Utah, joins the show to discuss the results of yesterday’s election.
4:20 pm: Congressman John Curtis, now Senator-elect, joins the show to discuss his victory, as well as get his reaction to Donald Trump’s victory and what it means for America moving forward.
4:38 pm: State Senator Mike Kennedy, now the Congressman-elect in Utah’s 3rd congressional district, joins the program to discuss his next steps as he prepares to move to Washington, D.C.
5:05 pm: Carolyn Phippen, Executive Director of the Freedom Front of Utah, joins the show to discuss the results of yesterday’s election.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This was a herculean effort, greatest comeback in American history.
And anyway, it's just a beautiful day. There was no
middle ground here. You were going to peel me off
this floor or I was going to be peeled off
the ceiling. But there was no calm place for me.
I was like, why are you getting so upset? I said,
I have. I can't help it. None of it is voluntary.
(00:23):
It's just and it makes you feel alive. You're going
to be miserable or you're going to be excited, but
you got no other emotion on the on the menu.
That's it for sure. And I am so happy, so happy.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It is the Rotting Greg Show on this day after
the election day on Utah's talk radio one O five
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it is the Wingman Wednesday edition of The Rodding Gregg Show,
and we invite you to be a part of it.
We've got a great show lined up today. As I'd
be mentioned a moment ago in her newscast, Congressman John
Curtis we should call him now. Senator elect John Curtis
(00:58):
will be joining US congress Man elect Mike Lee or
Mike Kennedy will also be joining us. We'll talk with
Carolyn Fippen and coming up tonight at six o'clock, we
have a one hour special from the great team at iHeart.
They put together a one hour post election special taking
a look at all the events of the day. Kamala
did concede. She finally called President Trump today and conceded.
(01:21):
Then gave a speech to her followers there and we'll
have details on that as well. But speaking of Kamala
and her phone calls, you ready for that? I got
thinking about this. Yes, I wonder how Kamala and Joe Biden,
because he called the former president today, how they felt
calling Hitler and conceding victory.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I'd be a little awkward.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Why, you know, they had to talk to Hitler and
say congratulations to Hitler?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
What I imagine what I imagine would happened. It's like
a boxing match, you know, before the fight, they talked
real smack about each other.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, there's a lot of insults thrown around the battle.
The you know, the bout happens inside the ring when
the when the winner is declared, usually boxers will embrace.
There's some mutual respect born in that ring, even if
they didn't have it for each other when they started.
I would hope there was a little bit of that
from the president and vice president to former President Trump today.
(02:16):
I think I think it would be I think it
would be good and I yeah, so I'm hoping that's
my that's my hope.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Well, we need to compliment, we really do. I think
Greg need to compliment Kamala Harris. And you're saying, why
do we need to compliment her? Well, remember her campaign
was all about joy, right, Yes, so we have joy today.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
We have yes. I will thank her.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
From the bottom of our hearts for bringing us joy.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Thank you for picking Tim Walls. Thank you for you know,
just thank you for when they asked you on the
view if you do anything different than Biden, you said,
I can't think of a single thing. Thank you for that.
Thank you. I have so many thank yous. I I
really am appreciative that, you know, I mean, we were.
It was just heavy on the mind Ben Franklin's immortal words,
it's a republic if you can keep it. And I
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was just hoping that people would know they would be
voting in their self interest. You you can't. The exit
polls yesterday were saying seventy percent of voters were saying
that the country's on the wrong track. You can't tell, say,
the person that's on the clock when the country's on
the wrong track. You can't take their word to say,
well keep me and go out hate this one when
the country is on the right track or better track,
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when the other guy was in office. That would be
working against your own interests at that point. The only
people that should have gotten Kamala Harris's votes are the
filthy rich who have gated communities and gated walls around
their homes and have never seen inflation, wouldn't understand it,
and you know that's the only vote she should have got.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, well, a lot of people, of course, and we'll
be answering this question today. A lot of people are saying,
why did he win? And how did he win? I mean,
what was the difference this year between twenty twenty now.
Scott Jennys, who I've really come to admire. He's one
of the analysts on CNN. He's the only conservative thinker there.
But he boiled it down last night when it was
(04:04):
real evident that Donald Trump was going to be going
back to the White House. But listen how he described
why voters decided to go with Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
I'm interpreting the results tonight as the revenge of just
the regular, old, working class American, the anonymous American who
has been crushed, insulted, condescended to. They're not garbage, They're
not Nazis. They're just regular people who get up and
go to work every day and are trying to make
a better life for their kids. And they feel like
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they have been told to just shut up when they
have complained about the things that are hurting them in
their own lives. I also feel like this election, as
we sit here and pour over this tonight, is something
of an indictment of the political information complex. I mean,
we've been sitting around here for the last couple of
weeks and the story that was portrayed was not true.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I mean, we were.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Told Puerto Rico, it was going to change you lift
Liz Cheney, Nikki Haley, voters, women lying to their husbands.
Before that, it was Tim Walls and the Camo Hats,
night after night after night.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
We were told all these.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Things and gimmicks were going to somehow push Harris over
the line, and we were just ignoring the fundamentals inflation,
people feeling like that they were barely able to tread
water at best. That was the fundamentals of the election.
And so I think that both parties should always look
at the results of an election.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, they should look at the results of an election
and see what happened. But I think he was so
spot on. Greg, you and I have talked about this,
the frustration that the American people have had over the
last four years. I think it goes back to Obama.
If you want, my honest opinion, being called every name
in the book, and all we want is to be
able to raise our families to enjoy the goodness of America.
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We get up every day, we go to work every day,
We support our communities every day. And in doing so,
what are we called, Greg Nazis, fascist, deplorables, garbage. And
I think this was a revenge election. The American people
said we've had enough.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
It takes a unique candidate like Donald Trump to really
galvanize that support around a candidate to take that kind
of frustration and really be able to vent it. Interesting election,
you had some ballot measures about abortion. People were voting
maybe to protect or extend abortion rights in some ways,
and could turn around and vote for Trump without listening
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to the narrative that one was because of the other.
You had uniquely in that blue wall, those blue wall states,
you had Trump win in big, big numbers, but the
Republican Senate candidate statewide didn't win narrowly, losing but losing
in those So you have Democrat Senate candidates or incumbents
at one and then you have Trump winning winning, and
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that's something you haven't seen before, and that's an independence
of the vote of the voters that voted for Trump.
But that's a leader that is really spanning all He's
breaking all the rules on the voting, voting blocks, urban voters,
suburban voters, a rural voters. He increased everywhere. He increased
in every state but for two.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, we'll talk about that a little bit later because
I'm trying to figure out what's going on.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
And it's I'm telling you there there are so many
details to this win that are truly historic in nature,
and this is why we're in a unique time.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, we sure, and we're going to break it down
for you throughout the show today. So we invite you
to be a part of it. Eight eight eight five
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Speaker 1 (07:36):
I'm going to tell you we could talk about the
blocking and tackling of a well organized campaign, one of
the finest and truly one of the best run campaigns,
and some of the things that they were able to
do that we now know with the results in was
saved that race. The Bucks County court case in Pennsylvania
where they where they tried to close early voting at
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two forty three, two forty five instead of five PM.
The RNC goes to the judge and thanks to X
and Elon Musk, this was this gone viral. Everyone had
seen them stopping that line. It wasn't a question. They
went and asked that judge for an extra day. The
judge said, you can have three extra days. Donald Trump
barely won that county. He barely won it because they
got there and I'm telling you, yeah, and you didn't
(08:18):
see Rohnand what's her name McDonald, the former RNC chair.
She wasn't You didn't see her her Trump. Yeah, in
twenty twenty, they weren't there. You saw. I mean, you
can go the thirty thousand votes in Wisconsin that they
weren't secured and they made him go through a complete
recount because of the way they had been counted where
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it was not secure. They could have kept refilling up
the count they redid that that those were Trump poll
watchers who spotted that and got that done. You had
shuttles in Arizona making sure if they shut down those
polling places, they gave him to the closest polling place
to still vote. Was this was such great blocking and tackling.
And that's just the structure of the campaign that doesn't
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get into the people whose message Donald Trump resonated with,
which broke all the rules of the presidential campaigns as well.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Well.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Speaking of mint Romney, of course, I'm met Romney not
going back to the senator race for his seat. Last
night one by third District Congress and John Curtis, he'll
be headed to the US Senate for the state of Utah,
and he's joining us on our Newsmaker line, right now, John,
great to have you on this show. John, share with us.
First of all, what did it take. What message did
you give to voters here in Utah as to why
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you should become a US senator.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
I think people are really ready for Washington to get
something done.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
And the ability that I had.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
To articulate, first of all, would have been in the
private sector than as mayor in the last seven years
in the House, I think really resonated, and I think
they're tired of Washington just being talked and all no cattle.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
So Senator elect, I looked at the votes, and I
know that all the precincts have not reported, but right
now it looks like you're the number one voc If
I look at you, I look at President Trump, and
I look at Governor Cox, I think that it goes
in that order. It's you, President Trump, and then Governor Cox.
In terms of state wide votes, that's a broad coalition.
(10:13):
I mean, you know, you taugh. Voters in different parts
of the state might see the world differently, but you
seem to have the biggest mandate coming out of the night.
What was your campaign like? Tell me how you were
able to generate that.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
Well, it's interesting because every once in a while somebody
would say to me on the campaign, you are really
hard to run against because the Romney team.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Folks like you, and the lead folks like you. How
do you run against somebody like that?
Speaker 6 (10:38):
And I'll tell you, I think that comes from hard work,
you know, going up and down the state, back and forth,
meeting with people, understanding, meeting with them where they are,
and realizing that everybody wants to feel represented. And you
don't have to necessarily vote to make people feel represented
in a certain way.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
But if you listen, it just makes a big difference.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
John, I know you probably heard this on the campaign trail,
and Greg and I have heard it on the show
as well, either through an email or a caller to
the show. There are some people out there who concerned
by electing you or getting another Mitt Romney. How do
you differentiate yourself or do you want to differentiate to
yourself between what you'll do and what Mitt Romney may
have done.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Well, listen, I could think of a great thing to
say about Senator Romney.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I could say great things about Senator Lee.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
And yet I'm neither one of them, and I don't
think it would be wise for me to try it
to be like them. I'm uniquely John Curtis, and I
kind of like who I am, and I think the
voters do too. And the good news is they have
seven years to see exactly who I am. So if
they're afraid I'm one way or another, I'd just say,
look at my last seven years and you'll see exactly
what you can expect from me.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
So what are we going to get? So I'm looking
at an incredible moment in history, American history. Trump it
looks like his if you look at the exit polls,
you look at the just the results that are coming out,
his appeal and his support, it breaks all boundaries. I mean,
it's across this country all but two states. His support
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grew in forty eight states over the last election. You're
you're looking at urban votes, he cut the lead in half.
Suburban votes he won, and the rural vote he won
by twenty seven percent, and then you get into the
Hispanic votes others. He's so he's really transcended a party
candidate in my mind looking at these results. So you've
got you've got a great You've got a great president,
(12:31):
a great administration coming in. You have the House, you
have control, or you have control of the Senate and
it looks like the House is going the right way,
So it might be that trifecta. What are your priorities
and again you know it's still unruly Washington is what
do you What are the big wins that you're going
to look for as a freshman senator.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
So listen, if we have that trifecta, watch for reconciliation
and watch for something around tax refor him. And I
know the President's going to need to be talked into this,
but I think this is the time when we look
at social Security and Medicare and the reality of it
is everybody knows that the budget's a huge problem, and
if they're not willing to have that conversation.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
We're kind of fooling ourselves.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
So that to me would be fantastic, But personally everybody knows.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I get very.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Involved in energy issues, and permitting reform is huge. The
one thing that we could do immediately to relieve the
inflation that people are feeling is bring down energy costs,
and the way you do that is permitting reforms. So
that's one where I spent a lot of time and
hopefully I can have some beast success quickly in the
Senate on that issue alone.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
John, one of the issues you'll confront right away, of course,
with Mitch McConnell, and as leadership stepping aside, you've got
to select a new majority leader for the Senate. What
do you hope to see from that new majority leader?
And right now, do you have a favorite you're leaning toward?
Speaker 6 (13:51):
So I kind of joke with them. I feel like
I'm dating two people dudes on Corder and Rick Scott
in the race as well. But I've just had a
tremendous outreach from John Bun and John Cornyan, and they're
good men, and they really are solid, and I think
that you know, we're going to be fortunate to have
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either one. I have had conversations with both of them
about this. The single biggest thing that I will use
to pick where I cast my vote, which is currently undecided,
is which one of them can bring us as Senate
Republicans together, because I've seen in the House what happens
when your New York delegation can't get along with the
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Free and Caucus. We lose and that is a really
bad place to be. Does that make sense? So you
can take you all fifty one, fifty two fifty three.
Whatever we end up with and if we can agree,
whatever the outcome is is worse than us agreed. And
so that leader has got to pull the different factions together.
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You've got Tom Cruise, you know, Lisa Murkowski, both really
good people and representing their states, but but sometimes very different.
And we need a leader who's going to be able
to get us on the same page so that we
can row together as Republicans.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Senator, like you mentioned inflation and getting it under control, big,
big issue. I think it is the issue of this
campaign and election year. I think it struck everyone, and
I don't think it was given the attention at least
by the Democrats it deserved. What about spending printing money?
Can we slow it down? I mean I just that's
we can. We can look at energy cost and I
one hundred percent agree, and I think the President is
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really campaigned on that too. But what about the printing
of money? We can we can we stop? Can we
slow that down? I mean, I just think it's it's
the inflation arefactor.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
Every once in a while, yeah, every once in a while,
somebody will get after me for not being as supportive
as President Trump, and as.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
They would like.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
And I point out, look my voting records ninety four
percent with him, but that's six percent was all on
budget issues. And that's that's something we all have to admit,
is that we spend a lot of money in the
Trump era. We spent a lot of money in the
the Bush era. We spent a lot of money with
Republican presidents. And this is you know, we don't have
the luxury of standing back to the Republicans and saying, hey,
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we've got the moral high ground here. And I think
as Republicans, we're not going to change the Democrats until
we change ourselves and the way we spend. And we
have a spending problem even within our party. And you
are actually right to identify that thirty four trillion plus
and that is just sailing upward at an unprecedented rate.
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And I'm worried because we want to address taxes and
we want to bring them down, but we've got to
make sure we're doing it in a way that doesn't
increase the deficite.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Sendor like John Curtis joining us on the rod In
Greg Show, and Greg, I like what he said about spending.
Sooner or later this country is going to have to
stop spending.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, he said the right things, he said the things
I want to hear about spending. I really don't think
he can keep printing all those dollars and think that
we're going to really get serious about inflation, even though
I agree that energy costs are going to contribute mightily
to lowering inflation.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Sure do hope So more coming up on the Rod
and Greg Show on this day after the historic election,
Donald Trump returning into the White House. Will talk more
coming up here on the Rod our Cat Show along
with Greg Hughes on Wingman Wednesday. Have good fun.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Today, all of us, every American. If you voted and
you were involved in this race, thank you. And again
Ben Franklin said, it's a republic if he can keep it.
And I feel like we, uh, we kept it. We
did our bit, and then we need a little divine
providence in there as well, and we got it. So
I just think it's such a great And I know
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we don't have time because we're going to have another
guest of another great friend and candidate that won last night,
Mike Kennedy, Representative elect. But but I do want to
at some point into it because Rod some of our
callers they were they were actually calling in and talking
about the very issues that we saw play out in
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Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and actually across this country, even the
states that Kamala Harris one, there have been inroads made
that people, I mean, politicos calling today is calling New
Jersey a potential swing state. Now, I mean that.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I just think that our listeners have have been tracking
this as closely as anyone, and some of the comments
that were made were prophetic. I'll just say that.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Well, John Curtis, of course, is headed to the US
Senate representing Utah. Replacing him is State Center Mike Kennedy,
who's joined in it is now on our Newsmaker line.
He is now Congressman elect. Mike. Congratulations. Do you a
message that must have worked? What did you tell voters
as to why they should vote for you?
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Mike, Well, we've seen the Republican suite that's happened throughout
the country. I think people are fed up with business
as usual, with politicians that don't listen to them, with
a boarder that's out of control, and with a feckless
Biden presidency and Kamala Harris was obviously terrible in her process.
So for us, focus on the issues to demonstrate to
the people that under Donald Trump things were better. And
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when it's come to what's been happening in the case
of the Kamala Harris proposed administration and the Joe Biden
administration has just been entirely mismanaged. And so to be
a Republican at this point, it's almost an easy sell
to the people of Utah because they are tired of
paying twenty five forty percent more for retail groceries and
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items that they've gotten needing on a regular basis. And
so for us, we focused on border protection and reducing
inflation and regulatory burden on businesses, and that resonates with
the people. They recognize that these things are actually successful
under Donald Trump and under Republican management, that if we're
able to carry those things forward, we can actually make
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things better for the people of Utah as well as
the United States of America.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
So, Mike Kennedy, we were colleagues in the House. You
went to the State Senate, the House of Lords. But
I've worked with you, we've been colleagues. We've moved the
needle together. So I know your leadership, and I know
that you know how this legislative branch is supposed to work.
It's a very thin margin if they do keep the House.
The Republicans so gonna it's going to be tough to govern.
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As we've watched the House have difficulties in the past.
How does a good Conservative, a practical, common sense problem
solver like yourself, even as a freshman, get into that
Congress where many of them don't know what they don't know,
and build coalitions and get some things done that we
haven't seen very much of from that House so far,
at least in my opinion. How are you going to
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be effective even as a freshman in that Congress.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
That's a great point of Greg.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
You and I both know this is a team sport
and we have to take input from any number of people,
people that we may or may not even agree with
sometimes to try to get bill moving forward to policies
that we believe in. And so when it comes to that,
I'm building relationships right now. It's been really interesting since
we won the Republican primary in the summertime. It's been
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a great thing around the state of Utah. Just a
lot of opportunity to meet people, understanding the disc and
what are their needs, and then from there understanding who's
in Washington, d C. Who's won their elections, who's going
to be there in the House of Representatives. And I've
already had several trips to Washington, DC met these people
and been really privileged to find a lot of great
people that want to make things better. And they recognize
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as well, it has to be a team effort. And Greg,
you and I understand that we can try to throw
a hail Mary touchdown pass every time and it doesn't
work and ultimately we lose the game. Sometimes you got
to move the ball forward three yards. And considering the
great United States of America and all the issues that
we have to deal with, is I want to move
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the ball forward, So I need other people to help
me with that, and I recognize that in working with them,
we can actually make things happen. So we've seen that
in the state legislature, you and I working together on
those things. I'd apply those same skills that I've learned
over the past ten years serving in the state legislature
in Washington DC. Because it's relationship based and policy strong.
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Conservative policies actually work for the United State, State's American
If we're able to work together, we can actually move
those things forward as a team.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Congressman Elect, I think the American people with this vote
last night, are telling Washington they want to get some
things done. They are tired of debating these issues. They
want to get things done. And I think that's why
they elected Donald Trump to put them back in the
White House. They think he can get things done. How
much pressure do you think the GOP is going to
be under in both the House and the Senate to
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work with the President and to start getting some things done.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
Rod, you understand and your listeners understand that the easy
thing is the same no to every dumb policy that's
proposed by the progressive liberals. And in this case, if
we get the trifecta, which we've been talking about for weeks,
is that it was possible. It looks like it's becoming
more and more likely that the Republicans will be in
charge of the presidency of the House and the Senate.
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And in that case, we need to demonstrate to the people
of Utah as well as the United States of America,
that we can govern, that we can actually work in collaboratively,
we can move policies forward to protect our border. And
actually I'm excited about that because day number one, we
can enhance our border security and stop the flow of
illegal individuals that are coming across their board. And we
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can also stop these ridiculous spending programs that are increasing inflation.
So I've heard already the EV mandates, these Green New Deal,
ridiculous spending programs that hundreds of billions of dollars are
being spent to promote a product that people do not
want to buy, electric trucks that are sitting on lots
right now. Is that we can eliminate hundreds of billions
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of dollars. I was just talking with others this morning
about the massive amounts of money that right now Joe
Biden is sent out and we can pull back that
these these policies aren't making any difference anyways, and they're
ruining our national debt, which is a key focus of mind.
We need to get our national debt under control as well.
So if the trifecta actually happens the way it looks
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like it will, this mandate that the Republicans are being
given as an opportunity that can't be wasted, because if
we waste it, we'll find ourselves being destroyed in the
next election cycle and then two years from now. So
I'm invested in making sure I'm supportive of this important
policy because this is an historic opportunity. This is not
just kind of a win, this is this is a
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an historic win that demonstrates by margins that there's a
mandate from the American people. The business as usual is
off the table. We need to we need to govern
in a way that is not irresponsible, as the Biden
administration's demonstrator over the past four years.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
So when you won in June and a really crowded
open seat for Congress against some really good candidates, you've
been my Jedi Knight, going into the evil Empire and
taking them on. You are a conservative Jedi night. You
just in the House. You would just wave your hand
and say you love this bill, and I'd go, I
just love this bill. I would just say that. So
I had a question, but you really nailed it in
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your answer to Rod. I just wanted to hear you
say that when you're going and you're not letting perfect
be the enemy of good, and when you're moving the
ball and you're getting things done with a conservative agenda
that's spending and continuing to print money, which is inflationary,
is the worst thing that could happen. That that's a
deal killer from day one. I already heard you say it.
I just wanted to emphasize it and thank you for
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having that kind of rudder in the water, because it
is a historic election and the people that put you
guys in the majority. It cannot be a wasted We'll lose,
We'll never get the chance again if we if we
don't take that, if we don't see that happen and
see this government brought under control. Can you believe Elon
Musk is going to give you less agencies and in
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the years that America has been America, he's ready to
cut that down.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
Oh, you're looking at You're looking at the opportunity for
us to move forward in so many different directions. This
Rfk and then Elon Musk on the team and whoever
else the Trump assembles is we can We can not
only undo the Biden fiasco that's happened. We can demonstrate
strength throughout the world and reduce the likelihood of international wars,
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but we can grow our economy, the energy infrastructure that
we have available that we if we can unfetter these
people to not only pump the natural gas, but sell
it to Europe, so we can disempower Russia who's selling
their natural gas to Europe and empowering Russia to wage
war in Ukraine. As we can weaken our enemies and
strengthen our own economy just by unfettering our energy infrastructure,
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let alone the great people in the state as well
as in the country. We can get regulations off their
back so that they can innovate and build their businesses,
reduce taxes so that people have more money to spend.
The economy grows, and Ronald Reagan demonstrated that this is
an opportunity for us to do the same and we
may see not only wins in the next election cycle,
but in the next foreseeable several election cycles because of
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the good things that we can do.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
We just need to carry that forward, Like Kendy's going
to be a good lawmaker here in the state of
Utah in my opinion, Greg, would you agree, I think
it'd be great.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Way Man Wednesday, and then our big revival, it's the
big realignment. Yeah, this realignment of America has has been
turned on its said, I'm telling you, and we can
go through every county, I can tell you that these
were Democrats strongholds, and they are read and they are
voting for Trump. And it's just the way this election
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has rolled out has changed all the rules in great ways.
And I'm just your have to peel me off off
the ceiling. I'm so happy.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Well, there are so many startling numbers out there today.
You shared one with me a while ago. We're on
talk about this after we do our next interview, because
I want to get people's reaction. I am shocked by
that number that you shared with me. Another one that
we talked about earlier today is the battle over suburban women. Yes,
and everybody was projecting, well, the Democrats are going to
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be go to beat Trump when it comes to suburban.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Women by like thirty points. They were predicting.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
It changed, didn't. He won suburban women. That's right, that's
absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
By two percentage points. But with the narratives that were
out there, you would have thought that this was I mean,
they were trying to say that. In Indiana on Election
I there was some tell that he was going to
get slaughtered by all these suburban counties in America and
in our swing districts, and it didn't happen. It not
only did not happen, he won. Yeah, he won with
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suburban women in America. This is this is completely opposite
from what they were telling us.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Well, let's talk more about the election right now. Joining
us on any of our newsmaker line the executive director
of the Freedom Front of Utah. We're talking about, Carolyn Fippin. Carolyn,
how are you welcome back to the Rod and Greg Show.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Hey, thank you.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
So much for having me. I am doing great, but
not quite as great as you guys, asking about to bring.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
You down from your high No, my husband, Well, good
luck getting me off this ceiling because I am I
am psyched.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Well, what are you going to tell us, Carolyn, that's
going to bring us down?
Speaker 8 (28:48):
Here's the thing. I'm a realist. Okay, Let's start with
the fact, and I am as thrilled as you are
that we got Donald Trump. That's what we have to
have if we want any hope of making any change
in this country.
Speaker 9 (29:00):
But we have.
Speaker 8 (29:02):
First of all, let's start with the fact that this
election never should have mattered as much as it did, right,
because we have been completely disrespecting the constitutional republic that
our founders created, and a president should never have the
impact that a president has today.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
In the United States. True, right, But let's.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
Go even further. Okay, I'm going to run you guys
through a few things and tell me where I'm wrong.
Right now, we have an executive branch that is headed
by nobody who is elected. Right, we have no elected
official running the executive branch in Washington.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
D C.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Correct, But that's going to change.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
Oh yeah, hold on though, Okay, so because someone's running it.
So this is a branch that has basically taken over
much of our federal government without any regard to the
actual limits on power or that our constitution grants. So
some would call that, I don't know, totalitarian, but anyway,
that's how we've been functioning in this nation for a
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long time. So there's no one in charge, and that
includes as commander in chief of that executive branch. So
we know that somebody's making these decisions. We know that
they are a person or people not elected by the
people who are currently running that executive branch. That's obvious.
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Donald Trump says he's going to come in, and the
people are clamoring for that. He's going to come in.
He's going to put everything back in place. We know
what happened last time, he said similar things, right, spying, investigations, threats, prosecutions, lawsuits,
multiple impeachments, unequal application of the law, COVID, shutting down
the entire economy, and you know, in many cases no
(30:51):
due process for his supporters and other conservatives. Okay, that
was what happened first time around. He's wiser this time,
and the people are wiser time, I think as well.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
And now.
Speaker 8 (31:05):
And we know since he announced, none of that has
gotten better. It's only gotten worse. Hand and someone's tried
killing him a few times. So tell me if you,
or if this audience like, raise your hand, if you
have any confidence that that man who's going up against
someone or something currently running our government, with all of
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those threats that came last time he tried, has any
confidence that he will ever be allowed to take the
actual reigns of power and steer.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
The Yes, I do, I don't, I do. And I'll
give you some examples, Caroly, because I know what you're saying,
and I and we have and you have every right,
and we have a right to be skeptical and concerned.
This is why why I think it's different. Number One,
you know he will he wisely did not receive any
of the intelligent briefs intelligence briefs that the candidates usually get.
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He knew they would set him up, and he knew
that they would try to make him look bad. He
stayed away from them, which shows that savviness that he
learned from the first term. Second, he did not go
into the transition team model of lobbyists and dc that
every every candidate usually does and they start building this
transition team. Romney did it, everyone does it. He stayed completely.
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He insulated himself away from that environment totally. The thing
that makes me the most excited is I actually think
that Elon Musk is our is our great inventor of
our times. And Elon Musk, He's pointed out there are
over four hundred agencies or departments that are federal federal
agencies or departments. There's only two hundred and forty eight
years as country has existed. He wants to see and
(32:36):
he is going to, I believe, be tasked with cutting
that having less departments and agencies and we have years
as a country, and I want to see two hundred
agencies with pink slips, and I think we can. I mean,
you got ninety seven percent of those DC swamp rats
that voted for Kamala in that Washington, d C. District
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and they all need to find new endeavors in life.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
And I want to just add to that. I think
his victory last night, Carolyn sent a message to Washington,
get ready, I'm coming. It's going to be a fight,
but I think he's ready to get into that fight,
and I think he has the American people behind him.
The American people want something done, and they see Washington
not doing a darn thing and they want changes.
Speaker 8 (33:20):
I agree with everything both of you just said. These
are Look, he's been shot at multiple times over the
past couple months. I'm not saying that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 9 (33:31):
But think about COVID, think about the law there, think
about the powers. This isn't about his will and the
will of his people and even their brilliance to do
the right thing and avoid some of those pitfalls that
existed the first time. This is about those who are
holding onto the levers of power with every reflect in them.
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Willingly giving it up.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
So, Caroline, I love this discussion, and I've given this
a lot of thought because I think, and I don't
know when it happened that big government and big business
kind of merged into some entity that's not been good.
Wouldn't it have been easier if they had as much
control as I assumed they did. But wouldn't it have
been easier to prevent him from winning than it is
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to prevent him from exercising his power authority as president?
I mean, wouldn't they have stopped that election from being
successful for him? That was the one thing I was
really worried about.
Speaker 8 (34:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Look have you seen the number of
lawsuits that the R and C has filed over the
past three years, ramping up significantly over the past few months.
It made it increasingly difficult to ensure that he didn't win.
But they did everything to everything within their power in
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that direction.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
So they did fight it. R and C did fight back,
or well, you're right, I mean they did. They were
prepared more so than twenty.
Speaker 8 (34:59):
Sure, And and I don't think a lot of those
things are actually over. I don't think it'll make a
difference because of what Rod already said, right, it has
been made clear to our leaders in Washington. Can we
even call them leaders?
Speaker 9 (35:12):
Right, the people who we've.
Speaker 8 (35:14):
Elucted to represent us in Washington, d C. I hate
that we say that, that we call them leaders, But
those people, it's been made clear to them and to
this bureaucratic state what the people want. But I actually
think that desperate times call for desperate measures. And I
don't think we've even seen the end of it. I
think that we're going to see BLM plus Antifa plus
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COVID times ten. And that's just what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
And here's the thing.
Speaker 8 (35:41):
When we do, you need to bring me back on
to talk about it, because I will hang this over
the head.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
This is a mental model. We are going to take
a note in this because I do I do think
it's going to It's not gonna be a cakewalker. No,
I agreed there, But I do think that there's a
bit more of a mandate going in this time than
Trump's had before.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah, we can, Carolyn always find out You're right. Yeah,
we do too, all right, Carolyn, Hey, thanks for joining us, Carolyn,
thank you, all right, Carolyn Finbit Joinnna, she makes some
good points. I mean, I think we realized it's going to.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Be a fight.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, I think it's important to be. We gotta be
girded up. We got, but I want to do it tomorrow.
I'm still celebrating today. I'm not even thinking about that
part of it. But I don't even think the riots
and what the violence I saw on Inauguration Day back
in seventeen January of seventeen, I don't. I don't even
think we'll see that, I like we do before. Maybe
I'm wrong, and if we are, well, Carolyn On, all right, we're.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Going to give you a number that surprised me when
Greg showed me earlier today and get your reaction as
to what on earth is going on in Utah when
it comes to Donald Trump. We're going to be talking
about that coming up here on the Roden Greg Show
and This Wingman Wednesday on Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine k n r S. There are a lot
of numbers out there. I mean, you can break this
down in so many ways and how successful Donald Trump
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was in so many ways. I mean, it's pretty amazing
what he was able to do during that election yesterday,
but this is the one that Greg had and he
showed me today, and to be honest, great I was startled.
I mean I said, I can't believe that. How what
is going on in Utah that would indicate they do
what we do not like Donald Trump? Is that what
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that number shows?
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Let me let me explain to our listeners people with this.
So there is there is so much data out there
in terms of how well President Trump did in his
campaign and how he broke down barriers of race, color, age, gender.
I mean, he was supposed to do so poorly with
the in the gender gap. He didn't do poorly with
the gender gap. It goes on and on and on.
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But the graph I saw showed that in forty eight
of fifty states, and it doesn't matter what that state
is red or blue, Donald Trump's support and votes increased
in every single state, Massachusetts, Hawaii, they exist. They all
increased every single state except for two one Washington state,
(38:03):
Well that's the homeless Seattle. The second Utah what Utah?
Utah is one of only two states out of fifty
states where Trump's numbers did not grow from sixteen to
twenty to twenty four, he did not see an increase
in his votes in this state and that and we
and we own that title with only the state of Washington,
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of which I would argue we have nothing in common.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
One thing.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
We have nothing in common.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
No, and I mean that it is a war zone
in that city. Now it's they've destroyed it. I mean
it's they have that. So it is just it is
really we have to ask ourselves what is going on
in this state? What is happening? You see that, you
see the ranks growing, you see a party that's growing,
You're seeing working class everyday people. You're seeing young people.
I've got a whole thing here about the young people
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that are getting it. Winston Churchill said, if you're young
and you're not liberal, you don't have a brain, or
I don't have a heart. If you're older and you're
not conservved, you don't have a brain. These kids have
hearts and brains together. I mean it is exciting to see.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
So why why is this?
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Greg?
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I mean, our numbers are down for Donald Trump. I
mean they've been going down what since twenty sixteen. Dropped
in twenty twenty, we actually went.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
We went higher in twenty than we were in sixteen,
and we went down lower than we were in twenty.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
The important of election is this was yesterday and vote
and people here in Utah will not vote for Donald
What have they got against this guy?
Speaker 1 (39:28):
My take, and I just believe that Utah has you know,
every every state and every metropolitan area has its own
regime media, local media. Utah is unique in that seventy
five percent live in one TV market of this population,
seventy five percent of the population.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
An unusual state in that regard. It is we have
one major media center for the entire state.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
It would it would, They argue, there's a there's a
stat out there that Utah becomes one of the most
urban suburban states in America because seventy five percent of
population live in this one suburban or urban area. This
US at front, that TV, you know, news media market
does not like Donald Trump. And they and they can't
stop telling you how much they don't like Donald Trump.
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Now the people push back on this interesting stat is
if you look at the votes between Donald Trump and
how many he received and Governor Spencer Cox in his reelection,
Trump received more votes than Governor Spencer Cox did in
his reelection. Here in the state of Utah. A lot
of people, especially the I would argue that Utah's media
would argue that Cox would receive more votes in Utah
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than Trump, but Trump's received more. But what I'm almost
embarrassed with this administration to say that we and the
state of Washington are the only two states where Trump's
support and vote count did not increase.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
In an election like yesterday. And how important that election is.
I'd like to know what's going on here in the
state of Utah. Is it well, he doesn't play nice?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Is it Morommie and Jeff Flake? Are they and their
support of the Democrats good? Are they the more that
they're you know, they're the moral ones that are telling
us that we're all apparently I'm all of America's up
in the night. Yeah, because I'm telling you this is
you have a you have a border county in Texas.
Ninety seven percent of Spanic that flipped to Trump in
overwhelming numbers. And it's it's never happened before, and they
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went with Trump this this last yesterday, ninety percent.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Of Spanic in every demographic you look at, young men,
young women, you name it, Trump improved. But here in
the state of Utah, our support for Trump dropped. Help
us understand this eight eight eight five seven o eight
zero one zero triple eight five seven o eight zero
one zero on your cell phone, I'll pound two fifty
and say, hey, Rod, your calls and comments coming up
(41:39):
on the Rotting Greg Show, The Wingman Wednesday edition right
here on Utah's talk Radio one oh five nine k nrs.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Trump has gained ground in all but two states in
the United States. Every state. I have the graph here.
You see the arrows all pointing to the right, red red,
right arrows going right in terms of support regular rush
is miss oral and and there's only two states where
there's that's an exception in the state of Washington is one,
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and the state of Utah is too.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
So fewer people in twenty twenty four here in the
state of Utah voted for Donald Trump. They they did
in twenty twenty or twenty sixteen. Yep, really yep. And
Washington is the other one, and all the other states
voted for him.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Yeah, And let me let me I'm reading this little
I gotta be very careful because it's the margin of
the victory over the Republican, the Republican margin over the Democrat,
and twenty and twenty four increased with Trump and him
being the nominee in twenty and twenty four, he increased
that margin of victory against the Democrat candidate for president,
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and every state but ours in Washington.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
St alright, let's find out why. Let's go to the phones.
Let's stalk with Robert in Sandy tonight here on the
rodden greg show, go ahead, Robert, Hi.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Guys, I moved here from Colorado, and for a long
time I was a precinct chairman there, and I watched
my state of Colorado go from being a red state
to a pink state, to a purple state to one
of the most solid blue states in the country. And
the root of it, well, there's a couple routes, but
one of them is a lot of Californians moved to Colorado.
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They moved to Boulder, and they moved to Denver.
Speaker 10 (43:18):
Colorado Springs is.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
The most conservative city in the United States, evangelical capital
of the country. And they used to bring in seventy
percent Republicans, but they dropped down into the low or
excuse me, the high fifties, which is still pretty good.
But you lose the votes in El Paso County, you
get all the Californias that move into Boulder in Denver
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and lo and behold, we're a blue state. And I'm
worried because Salt Lake County. If you look at the
elections in Salt Lake County, the Democrats won, not just
in Salt Lake City, but across the county. Democrats did
very well. And I think that a large part of
that is two things. One, the number of people involved
in the churches dropped. And you know, lbs people tend
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to be Republican since fewer and fewer people in the
state are members of the church and more people are not.
And you've got California's moving in. There's a demographic change
happening here. And I'm worried that Utah is going to
fall into the same trap that my Colorado did.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Boy, I hope not, Robert, But boy, do we hear
what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah, it all sounds sadly familiar, and I'm aware of that.
How that shift in Colorado happened, It happened quick. Yeah, sure,
and it was troublesome. So let's go, let's hear more
from our callers. Let's go to Jeremy and Orum. Jeremy,
welcome to the Rod and Greg show Good Evening.
Speaker 11 (44:37):
So I have a comment. The question was was whire
Utah's not voting as much for Trump. I support President
Trump as a president, but I cannot support him morally.
I think that goes along with a lot of people
here in the state have the same feeling. Where he's
been a product of or part of multiple places where
he's been a victim or helping. Sorry hope this comes
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across right, take advantage of women at certain points in
his life, and it's hard to vote for somebody that's
done that. I have a daughter that's been taken advantage
of by somebody in authority, and so I have a
hard time supporting somebody that that has been guilty of that.
And I think a lot of people where we are
a highly Christian area have the same feeling. I've got
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multiple friends that think the same way. As a person.
We cannot support the person, but can support him as
a good president because we feel that he's going to
be a great president, but it's hard to vote for
him as a person. And so that's where I think
my personal opinion is what's going on with a lot
of things in Utah.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Jeremy just real question or question for me that I haven't.
It's I appreciate your comment and and your perspective. Does
that leave you wanting to not vote? Or do you
think there's candidates out there that have that higher moral
standard that you could that you could support, or or
does it just does it just chill the voter turnout?
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Do you think?
Speaker 11 (46:00):
Well, right now, the choices were not a very moral
choice either way we go, And so how do you
how do you choose what's right out of the choice
that we have? Yeah, you know, That's that's where the
difficult part is. And again, I think President Trump is
going to be an excellent president. I think he's going
to take the country where it needs to go. But
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how can you support somebody that's guilty of doing the
things he's done where you have somebody that's a victim
of that in your same in your own family.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
I can, all right, I see where he's coming from
on that. I do understand that a little bit. Let's
go to Jason on I fifteen didnight hear on the
Rod on Greg Show? Hi, Jason, how are you.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
Hi?
Speaker 12 (46:40):
Guys good? I actually have a very similar opinion to
the previous callers that when it came down to it,
I thought I ended up just writing in somebody. And
part of the reason for that is, it's Utah, We're
going to vote for the Republican, it doesn't matter who
it is. I just thought it was such a poor
choice of a Republican. I would have gone for any
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of the other nominees in the in the primary, but
I couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump. It's the
first time I didn't vote for a Republican in the
presidential election. I didn't vote for many of the three
times I didn't vote for Hillary either, any of that,
but as a person, he is just so immoral and
such a bad example. I want the Republican Party to
do better now. If I were in a swing state,
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I'd probably have to look at a bit harder. Like
I said, there's no way I could have voted for Kamala.
I think she was terrible.
Speaker 10 (47:29):
But that's that's the reason.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
I think.
Speaker 10 (47:31):
There's a lot of people that are kind of.
Speaker 12 (47:32):
The same way.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Oh right, interesting, interesting, I'm surprised by some of the
comments today. Greg to be real, Hones, we got a
lot of people who will get to here in a minute.
But I'm a bit surprised by some of the comments,
are you.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Well, I just think whatever sins are talking about when
some people's sins that are more public than others, I
just don't I do just don't know if it's uh,
you're you're placing the same emphasis on the same people,
if you know or don't know. And I think some
of the things about Trump are clearly uh I've blown
out of proportion or not accurate.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Why some people I don't know what it is about
some Utah voters and why they're so against Donald Trump?
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Right, Yeah, I think it's we get you get into
some tough territory when you start deciding who's moral in
the life and who's not. I just don't know if
that's I mean, I just you don't know what persons
ask for forgiveness repair, whatever it may be. I just
think that there's a that's a qualification in politics or
in elections that you don't know enough about anyone to
really land. And I don't know that if just if
someone's h if there's allegations or people accuse someone, particularly
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if they're unpopular politically, that you should take that to
the bank as all they are. I say that, but
also you know, people qualify that as president, they could
see some good things, uh for that for Trump being
president as well. Let's go to the phones. Let's go
to Nephi and Mill Creek, Nephi. Thank you for holding
and thank you for calling the Rod and Gregg Show.
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What do you think about this statistic that only two states,
Washington State and Utah had a did not grow in
terms of Trump's support in all the states in America.
But for Washington and Utah.
Speaker 13 (49:04):
Well, I'm just looking through the results for Salt Lake
County alone, and there's only a handful of Republicans that
actually won just based on votes in that county. So
the previous caller who talked about that happening in Colorado
might be correct. But the other thing I wanted to
comment on was earlier Jeremy pointed out that he couldn't
vote for Trump because of his morals, but he did
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vote for him because he likes his policies. And as
you probably had guessed, I'm LDS and I made the
same jump because in twenty sixteen, I didn't vote for
him in the primary in the primaries, but I did
in the general election. And you know, I asked the
same question. But I think as Christians we have to
ask ourself do we believe in forgiveness? And we don't
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know the morals of public individuals. We don't really know
what goes on in their lives, and it's unfair to
kind of paint them with what we hear in the
news I think about them. I think it's a horrible
mistake we make. And what you can do, though, is
you can look at his family and you know, he's
got great relationship, but his one ex wife is kids.
So if he had moral problems in the past, you know,
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all you can do is assume he's repented, he's moved on,
and he's a good man.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
You know, Yeah, yeah, you know. I think you need
to look at it that way. You're right. Let's go
to Troy in Farmington tonight here on the Rodding Greg show.
Go ahead, Troy, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 10 (50:28):
Yeah, thanks for letting me come on. Very very interesting information.
I had not heard that Utah went backwards. To be
honest with you, it's embarrassing to me and frustrating.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
I feel the same as.
Speaker 10 (50:38):
A life as a lifelong Republican and almost a life
while latter day Saint it infuriates me, and I'll tell
you why, because it is. I don't know if it's
either hypocritical or it's inconsistent, or it's both of those things.
But here's where I land on this, and I do
kind of want to verbally slap around those who are
making these decisions.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Yeah, real quick, about twenty seconds, Troy, make it real quick,
twenty seconds.
Speaker 10 (51:03):
Yeah, nobody knows the morality of their airline pilot. They
just jump on that plane because he can get the
job done. Politics is a blood sport. We hired him
not to be our bishop, but to be our bodyguard,
and he's already done it once really well. And he
can do that, and we should stop asking so much
about his personal life and make sure he can do
the job we're hiring him to do.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah, you're right, Mario, Troy makes really good points.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
Yeah he hit that over the fence. I feel the
same way.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
All Right, that's going to wrap it up for us tonight.
We'll be back tomorrow and Election Day wrap up special
coming your way next right here on Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five nine. Kayn Rest, we'll talk to you
tomorrow
This was a herculean effort, greatest comeback in American history.
And anyway, it's just a beautiful day. There was no
middle ground here. You were going to peel me off
this floor or I was going to be peeled off
the ceiling. But there was no calm place for me.
I was like, why are you getting so upset? I said,
I have. I can't help it. None of it is voluntary.
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It's just and it makes you feel alive. You're going
to be miserable or you're going to be excited, but
you got no other emotion on the on the menu.
That's it for sure. And I am so happy, so happy.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
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We've got a great show lined up today. As I'd
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Mike Kennedy will also be joining us. We'll talk with
Carolyn Fippen and coming up tonight at six o'clock, we
have a one hour special from the great team at iHeart.
They put together a one hour post election special taking
a look at all the events of the day. Kamala
did concede. She finally called President Trump today and conceded.
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Then gave a speech to her followers there and we'll
have details on that as well. But speaking of Kamala
and her phone calls, you ready for that? I got
thinking about this. Yes, I wonder how Kamala and Joe Biden,
because he called the former president today, how they felt
calling Hitler and conceding victory.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I'd be a little awkward.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Why, you know, they had to talk to Hitler and
say congratulations to Hitler?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
What I imagine what I imagine would happened. It's like
a boxing match, you know, before the fight, they talked
real smack about each other.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, there's a lot of insults thrown around the battle.
The you know, the bout happens inside the ring when
the when the winner is declared, usually boxers will embrace.
There's some mutual respect born in that ring, even if
they didn't have it for each other when they started.
I would hope there was a little bit of that
from the president and vice president to former President Trump today.
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I think I think it would be I think it
would be good and I yeah, so I'm hoping that's
my that's my hope.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Well, we need to compliment, we really do. I think
Greg need to compliment Kamala Harris. And you're saying, why
do we need to compliment her? Well, remember her campaign
was all about joy, right, Yes, so we have joy today.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
We have yes. I will thank her.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
From the bottom of our hearts for bringing us joy.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Thank you for picking Tim Walls. Thank you for you know,
just thank you for when they asked you on the
view if you do anything different than Biden, you said,
I can't think of a single thing. Thank you for that.
Thank you. I have so many thank yous. I I
really am appreciative that, you know, I mean, we were.
It was just heavy on the mind Ben Franklin's immortal words,
it's a republic if you can keep it. And I
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was just hoping that people would know they would be
voting in their self interest. You you can't. The exit
polls yesterday were saying seventy percent of voters were saying
that the country's on the wrong track. You can't tell, say,
the person that's on the clock when the country's on
the wrong track. You can't take their word to say,
well keep me and go out hate this one when
the country is on the right track or better track,
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when the other guy was in office. That would be
working against your own interests at that point. The only
people that should have gotten Kamala Harris's votes are the
filthy rich who have gated communities and gated walls around
their homes and have never seen inflation, wouldn't understand it,
and you know that's the only vote she should have got.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, well, a lot of people, of course, and we'll
be answering this question today. A lot of people are saying,
why did he win? And how did he win? I mean,
what was the difference this year between twenty twenty now.
Scott Jennys, who I've really come to admire. He's one
of the analysts on CNN. He's the only conservative thinker there.
But he boiled it down last night when it was
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real evident that Donald Trump was going to be going
back to the White House. But listen how he described
why voters decided to go with Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
I'm interpreting the results tonight as the revenge of just
the regular, old, working class American, the anonymous American who
has been crushed, insulted, condescended to. They're not garbage, They're
not Nazis. They're just regular people who get up and
go to work every day and are trying to make
a better life for their kids. And they feel like
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they have been told to just shut up when they
have complained about the things that are hurting them in
their own lives. I also feel like this election, as
we sit here and pour over this tonight, is something
of an indictment of the political information complex. I mean,
we've been sitting around here for the last couple of
weeks and the story that was portrayed was not true.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I mean, we were.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Told Puerto Rico, it was going to change you lift
Liz Cheney, Nikki Haley, voters, women lying to their husbands.
Before that, it was Tim Walls and the Camo Hats,
night after night after night.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
We were told all these.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Things and gimmicks were going to somehow push Harris over
the line, and we were just ignoring the fundamentals inflation,
people feeling like that they were barely able to tread
water at best. That was the fundamentals of the election.
And so I think that both parties should always look
at the results of an election.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, they should look at the results of an election
and see what happened. But I think he was so
spot on. Greg, you and I have talked about this,
the frustration that the American people have had over the
last four years. I think it goes back to Obama.
If you want, my honest opinion, being called every name
in the book, and all we want is to be
able to raise our families to enjoy the goodness of America.
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We get up every day, we go to work every day,
We support our communities every day. And in doing so,
what are we called, Greg Nazis, fascist, deplorables, garbage. And
I think this was a revenge election. The American people
said we've had enough.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
It takes a unique candidate like Donald Trump to really
galvanize that support around a candidate to take that kind
of frustration and really be able to vent it. Interesting election,
you had some ballot measures about abortion. People were voting
maybe to protect or extend abortion rights in some ways,
and could turn around and vote for Trump without listening
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to the narrative that one was because of the other.
You had uniquely in that blue wall, those blue wall states,
you had Trump win in big, big numbers, but the
Republican Senate candidate statewide didn't win narrowly, losing but losing
in those So you have Democrat Senate candidates or incumbents
at one and then you have Trump winning winning, and
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that's something you haven't seen before, and that's an independence
of the vote of the voters that voted for Trump.
But that's a leader that is really spanning all He's
breaking all the rules on the voting, voting blocks, urban voters,
suburban voters, a rural voters. He increased everywhere. He increased
in every state but for two.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, we'll talk about that a little bit later because
I'm trying to figure out what's going on.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
And it's I'm telling you there there are so many
details to this win that are truly historic in nature,
and this is why we're in a unique time.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, we sure, and we're going to break it down
for you throughout the show today. So we invite you
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Speaker 1 (07:36):
I'm going to tell you we could talk about the
blocking and tackling of a well organized campaign, one of
the finest and truly one of the best run campaigns,
and some of the things that they were able to
do that we now know with the results in was
saved that race. The Bucks County court case in Pennsylvania
where they where they tried to close early voting at
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two forty three, two forty five instead of five PM.
The RNC goes to the judge and thanks to X
and Elon Musk, this was this gone viral. Everyone had
seen them stopping that line. It wasn't a question. They
went and asked that judge for an extra day. The
judge said, you can have three extra days. Donald Trump
barely won that county. He barely won it because they
got there and I'm telling you, yeah, and you didn't
(08:18):
see Rohnand what's her name McDonald, the former RNC chair.
She wasn't You didn't see her her Trump. Yeah, in
twenty twenty, they weren't there. You saw. I mean, you
can go the thirty thousand votes in Wisconsin that they
weren't secured and they made him go through a complete
recount because of the way they had been counted where
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it was not secure. They could have kept refilling up
the count they redid that that those were Trump poll
watchers who spotted that and got that done. You had
shuttles in Arizona making sure if they shut down those
polling places, they gave him to the closest polling place
to still vote. Was this was such great blocking and tackling.
And that's just the structure of the campaign that doesn't
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get into the people whose message Donald Trump resonated with,
which broke all the rules of the presidential campaigns as well.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Well.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Speaking of mint Romney, of course, I'm met Romney not
going back to the senator race for his seat. Last
night one by third District Congress and John Curtis, he'll
be headed to the US Senate for the state of Utah,
and he's joining us on our Newsmaker line, right now, John,
great to have you on this show. John, share with us.
First of all, what did it take. What message did
you give to voters here in Utah as to why
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you should become a US senator.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
I think people are really ready for Washington to get
something done.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
And the ability that I had.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
To articulate, first of all, would have been in the
private sector than as mayor in the last seven years
in the House, I think really resonated, and I think
they're tired of Washington just being talked and all no cattle.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
So Senator elect, I looked at the votes, and I
know that all the precincts have not reported, but right
now it looks like you're the number one voc If
I look at you, I look at President Trump, and
I look at Governor Cox, I think that it goes
in that order. It's you, President Trump, and then Governor Cox.
In terms of state wide votes, that's a broad coalition.
(10:13):
I mean, you know, you taugh. Voters in different parts
of the state might see the world differently, but you
seem to have the biggest mandate coming out of the night.
What was your campaign like? Tell me how you were
able to generate that.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
Well, it's interesting because every once in a while somebody
would say to me on the campaign, you are really
hard to run against because the Romney team.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Folks like you, and the lead folks like you. How
do you run against somebody like that?
Speaker 6 (10:38):
And I'll tell you, I think that comes from hard work,
you know, going up and down the state, back and forth,
meeting with people, understanding, meeting with them where they are,
and realizing that everybody wants to feel represented. And you
don't have to necessarily vote to make people feel represented
in a certain way.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
But if you listen, it just makes a big difference.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
John, I know you probably heard this on the campaign trail,
and Greg and I have heard it on the show
as well, either through an email or a caller to
the show. There are some people out there who concerned
by electing you or getting another Mitt Romney. How do
you differentiate yourself or do you want to differentiate to
yourself between what you'll do and what Mitt Romney may
have done.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Well, listen, I could think of a great thing to
say about Senator Romney.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I could say great things about Senator Lee.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
And yet I'm neither one of them, and I don't
think it would be wise for me to try it
to be like them. I'm uniquely John Curtis, and I
kind of like who I am, and I think the
voters do too. And the good news is they have
seven years to see exactly who I am. So if
they're afraid I'm one way or another, I'd just say,
look at my last seven years and you'll see exactly
what you can expect from me.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
So what are we going to get? So I'm looking
at an incredible moment in history, American history. Trump it
looks like his if you look at the exit polls,
you look at the just the results that are coming out,
his appeal and his support, it breaks all boundaries. I mean,
it's across this country all but two states. His support
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grew in forty eight states over the last election. You're
you're looking at urban votes, he cut the lead in half.
Suburban votes he won, and the rural vote he won
by twenty seven percent, and then you get into the
Hispanic votes others. He's so he's really transcended a party
candidate in my mind looking at these results. So you've
got you've got a great You've got a great president,
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a great administration coming in. You have the House, you
have control, or you have control of the Senate and
it looks like the House is going the right way,
So it might be that trifecta. What are your priorities
and again you know it's still unruly Washington is what
do you What are the big wins that you're going
to look for as a freshman senator.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
So listen, if we have that trifecta, watch for reconciliation
and watch for something around tax refor him. And I
know the President's going to need to be talked into this,
but I think this is the time when we look
at social Security and Medicare and the reality of it
is everybody knows that the budget's a huge problem, and
if they're not willing to have that conversation.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
We're kind of fooling ourselves.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
So that to me would be fantastic, But personally everybody knows.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I get very.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Involved in energy issues, and permitting reform is huge. The
one thing that we could do immediately to relieve the
inflation that people are feeling is bring down energy costs,
and the way you do that is permitting reforms. So
that's one where I spent a lot of time and
hopefully I can have some beast success quickly in the
Senate on that issue alone.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
John, one of the issues you'll confront right away, of course,
with Mitch McConnell, and as leadership stepping aside, you've got
to select a new majority leader for the Senate. What
do you hope to see from that new majority leader?
And right now, do you have a favorite you're leaning toward?
Speaker 6 (13:51):
So I kind of joke with them. I feel like
I'm dating two people dudes on Corder and Rick Scott
in the race as well. But I've just had a
tremendous outreach from John Bun and John Cornyan, and they're
good men, and they really are solid, and I think
that you know, we're going to be fortunate to have
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either one. I have had conversations with both of them
about this. The single biggest thing that I will use
to pick where I cast my vote, which is currently undecided,
is which one of them can bring us as Senate
Republicans together, because I've seen in the House what happens
when your New York delegation can't get along with the
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Free and Caucus. We lose and that is a really
bad place to be. Does that make sense? So you
can take you all fifty one, fifty two fifty three.
Whatever we end up with and if we can agree,
whatever the outcome is is worse than us agreed. And
so that leader has got to pull the different factions together.
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You've got Tom Cruise, you know, Lisa Murkowski, both really
good people and representing their states, but but sometimes very different.
And we need a leader who's going to be able
to get us on the same page so that we
can row together as Republicans.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Senator, like you mentioned inflation and getting it under control, big,
big issue. I think it is the issue of this
campaign and election year. I think it struck everyone, and
I don't think it was given the attention at least
by the Democrats it deserved. What about spending printing money?
Can we slow it down? I mean I just that's
we can. We can look at energy cost and I
one hundred percent agree, and I think the President is
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really campaigned on that too. But what about the printing
of money? We can we can we stop? Can we
slow that down? I mean, I just think it's it's
the inflation arefactor.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
Every once in a while, yeah, every once in a while,
somebody will get after me for not being as supportive
as President Trump, and as.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
They would like.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
And I point out, look my voting records ninety four
percent with him, but that's six percent was all on
budget issues. And that's that's something we all have to admit,
is that we spend a lot of money in the
Trump era. We spent a lot of money in the
the Bush era. We spent a lot of money with
Republican presidents. And this is you know, we don't have
the luxury of standing back to the Republicans and saying, hey,
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we've got the moral high ground here. And I think
as Republicans, we're not going to change the Democrats until
we change ourselves and the way we spend. And we
have a spending problem even within our party. And you
are actually right to identify that thirty four trillion plus
and that is just sailing upward at an unprecedented rate.
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And I'm worried because we want to address taxes and
we want to bring them down, but we've got to
make sure we're doing it in a way that doesn't
increase the deficite.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Sendor like John Curtis joining us on the rod In
Greg Show, and Greg, I like what he said about spending.
Sooner or later this country is going to have to
stop spending.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, he said the right things, he said the things
I want to hear about spending. I really don't think
he can keep printing all those dollars and think that
we're going to really get serious about inflation, even though
I agree that energy costs are going to contribute mightily
to lowering inflation.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Sure do hope So more coming up on the Rod
and Greg Show on this day after the historic election,
Donald Trump returning into the White House. Will talk more
coming up here on the Rod our Cat Show along
with Greg Hughes on Wingman Wednesday. Have good fun.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Today, all of us, every American. If you voted and
you were involved in this race, thank you. And again
Ben Franklin said, it's a republic if he can keep it.
And I feel like we, uh, we kept it. We
did our bit, and then we need a little divine
providence in there as well, and we got it. So
I just think it's such a great And I know
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we don't have time because we're going to have another
guest of another great friend and candidate that won last night,
Mike Kennedy, Representative elect. But but I do want to
at some point into it because Rod some of our
callers they were they were actually calling in and talking
about the very issues that we saw play out in
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Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and actually across this country, even the
states that Kamala Harris one, there have been inroads made
that people, I mean, politicos calling today is calling New
Jersey a potential swing state. Now, I mean that.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I just think that our listeners have have been tracking
this as closely as anyone, and some of the comments
that were made were prophetic. I'll just say that.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Well, John Curtis, of course, is headed to the US
Senate representing Utah. Replacing him is State Center Mike Kennedy,
who's joined in it is now on our Newsmaker line.
He is now Congressman elect. Mike. Congratulations. Do you a
message that must have worked? What did you tell voters
as to why they should vote for you?
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Mike, Well, we've seen the Republican suite that's happened throughout
the country. I think people are fed up with business
as usual, with politicians that don't listen to them, with
a boarder that's out of control, and with a feckless
Biden presidency and Kamala Harris was obviously terrible in her process.
So for us, focus on the issues to demonstrate to
the people that under Donald Trump things were better. And
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when it's come to what's been happening in the case
of the Kamala Harris proposed administration and the Joe Biden
administration has just been entirely mismanaged. And so to be
a Republican at this point, it's almost an easy sell
to the people of Utah because they are tired of
paying twenty five forty percent more for retail groceries and
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items that they've gotten needing on a regular basis. And
so for us, we focused on border protection and reducing
inflation and regulatory burden on businesses, and that resonates with
the people. They recognize that these things are actually successful
under Donald Trump and under Republican management, that if we're
able to carry those things forward, we can actually make
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things better for the people of Utah as well as
the United States of America.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
So, Mike Kennedy, we were colleagues in the House. You
went to the State Senate, the House of Lords. But
I've worked with you, we've been colleagues. We've moved the
needle together. So I know your leadership, and I know
that you know how this legislative branch is supposed to work.
It's a very thin margin if they do keep the House.
The Republicans so gonna it's going to be tough to govern.
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As we've watched the House have difficulties in the past.
How does a good Conservative, a practical, common sense problem
solver like yourself, even as a freshman, get into that
Congress where many of them don't know what they don't know,
and build coalitions and get some things done that we
haven't seen very much of from that House so far,
at least in my opinion. How are you going to
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be effective even as a freshman in that Congress.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
That's a great point of Greg.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
You and I both know this is a team sport
and we have to take input from any number of people,
people that we may or may not even agree with
sometimes to try to get bill moving forward to policies
that we believe in. And so when it comes to that,
I'm building relationships right now. It's been really interesting since
we won the Republican primary in the summertime. It's been
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a great thing around the state of Utah. Just a
lot of opportunity to meet people, understanding the disc and
what are their needs, and then from there understanding who's
in Washington, d C. Who's won their elections, who's going
to be there in the House of Representatives. And I've
already had several trips to Washington, DC met these people
and been really privileged to find a lot of great
people that want to make things better. And they recognize
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as well, it has to be a team effort. And Greg,
you and I understand that we can try to throw
a hail Mary touchdown pass every time and it doesn't
work and ultimately we lose the game. Sometimes you got
to move the ball forward three yards. And considering the
great United States of America and all the issues that
we have to deal with, is I want to move
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the ball forward, So I need other people to help
me with that, and I recognize that in working with them,
we can actually make things happen. So we've seen that
in the state legislature, you and I working together on
those things. I'd apply those same skills that I've learned
over the past ten years serving in the state legislature
in Washington DC. Because it's relationship based and policy strong.
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Conservative policies actually work for the United State, State's American
If we're able to work together, we can actually move
those things forward as a team.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Congressman Elect, I think the American people with this vote
last night, are telling Washington they want to get some
things done. They are tired of debating these issues. They
want to get things done. And I think that's why
they elected Donald Trump to put them back in the
White House. They think he can get things done. How
much pressure do you think the GOP is going to
be under in both the House and the Senate to
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work with the President and to start getting some things done.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
Rod, you understand and your listeners understand that the easy
thing is the same no to every dumb policy that's
proposed by the progressive liberals. And in this case, if
we get the trifecta, which we've been talking about for weeks,
is that it was possible. It looks like it's becoming
more and more likely that the Republicans will be in
charge of the presidency of the House and the Senate.
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And in that case, we need to demonstrate to the people
of Utah as well as the United States of America,
that we can govern, that we can actually work in collaboratively,
we can move policies forward to protect our border. And
actually I'm excited about that because day number one, we
can enhance our border security and stop the flow of
illegal individuals that are coming across their board. And we
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can also stop these ridiculous spending programs that are increasing inflation.
So I've heard already the EV mandates, these Green New Deal,
ridiculous spending programs that hundreds of billions of dollars are
being spent to promote a product that people do not
want to buy, electric trucks that are sitting on lots
right now. Is that we can eliminate hundreds of billions
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of dollars. I was just talking with others this morning
about the massive amounts of money that right now Joe
Biden is sent out and we can pull back that
these these policies aren't making any difference anyways, and they're
ruining our national debt, which is a key focus of mind.
We need to get our national debt under control as well.
So if the trifecta actually happens the way it looks
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like it will, this mandate that the Republicans are being
given as an opportunity that can't be wasted, because if
we waste it, we'll find ourselves being destroyed in the
next election cycle and then two years from now. So
I'm invested in making sure I'm supportive of this important
policy because this is an historic opportunity. This is not
just kind of a win, this is this is a
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an historic win that demonstrates by margins that there's a
mandate from the American people. The business as usual is
off the table. We need to we need to govern
in a way that is not irresponsible, as the Biden
administration's demonstrator over the past four years.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
So when you won in June and a really crowded
open seat for Congress against some really good candidates, you've
been my Jedi Knight, going into the evil Empire and
taking them on. You are a conservative Jedi night. You
just in the House. You would just wave your hand
and say you love this bill, and I'd go, I
just love this bill. I would just say that. So
I had a question, but you really nailed it in
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your answer to Rod. I just wanted to hear you
say that when you're going and you're not letting perfect
be the enemy of good, and when you're moving the
ball and you're getting things done with a conservative agenda
that's spending and continuing to print money, which is inflationary,
is the worst thing that could happen. That that's a
deal killer from day one. I already heard you say it.
I just wanted to emphasize it and thank you for
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having that kind of rudder in the water, because it
is a historic election and the people that put you
guys in the majority. It cannot be a wasted We'll lose,
We'll never get the chance again if we if we
don't take that, if we don't see that happen and
see this government brought under control. Can you believe Elon
Musk is going to give you less agencies and in
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the years that America has been America, he's ready to
cut that down.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
Oh, you're looking at You're looking at the opportunity for
us to move forward in so many different directions. This
Rfk and then Elon Musk on the team and whoever
else the Trump assembles is we can We can not
only undo the Biden fiasco that's happened. We can demonstrate
strength throughout the world and reduce the likelihood of international wars,
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but we can grow our economy, the energy infrastructure that
we have available that we if we can unfetter these
people to not only pump the natural gas, but sell
it to Europe, so we can disempower Russia who's selling
their natural gas to Europe and empowering Russia to wage
war in Ukraine. As we can weaken our enemies and
strengthen our own economy just by unfettering our energy infrastructure,
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let alone the great people in the state as well
as in the country. We can get regulations off their
back so that they can innovate and build their businesses,
reduce taxes so that people have more money to spend.
The economy grows, and Ronald Reagan demonstrated that this is
an opportunity for us to do the same and we
may see not only wins in the next election cycle,
but in the next foreseeable several election cycles because of
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the good things that we can do.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
We just need to carry that forward, Like Kendy's going
to be a good lawmaker here in the state of
Utah in my opinion, Greg, would you agree, I think
it'd be great.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Way Man Wednesday, and then our big revival, it's the
big realignment. Yeah, this realignment of America has has been
turned on its said, I'm telling you, and we can
go through every county, I can tell you that these
were Democrats strongholds, and they are read and they are
voting for Trump. And it's just the way this election
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has rolled out has changed all the rules in great ways.
And I'm just your have to peel me off off
the ceiling. I'm so happy.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Well, there are so many startling numbers out there today.
You shared one with me a while ago. We're on
talk about this after we do our next interview, because
I want to get people's reaction. I am shocked by
that number that you shared with me. Another one that
we talked about earlier today is the battle over suburban women. Yes,
and everybody was projecting, well, the Democrats are going to
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be go to beat Trump when it comes to suburban.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Women by like thirty points. They were predicting.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
It changed, didn't. He won suburban women. That's right, that's
absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
By two percentage points. But with the narratives that were
out there, you would have thought that this was I mean,
they were trying to say that. In Indiana on Election
I there was some tell that he was going to
get slaughtered by all these suburban counties in America and
in our swing districts, and it didn't happen. It not
only did not happen, he won. Yeah, he won with
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suburban women in America. This is this is completely opposite
from what they were telling us.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Well, let's talk more about the election right now. Joining
us on any of our newsmaker line the executive director
of the Freedom Front of Utah. We're talking about, Carolyn Fippin. Carolyn,
how are you welcome back to the Rod and Greg Show.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Hey, thank you.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
So much for having me. I am doing great, but
not quite as great as you guys, asking about to bring.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
You down from your high No, my husband, Well, good
luck getting me off this ceiling because I am I
am psyched.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Well, what are you going to tell us, Carolyn, that's
going to bring us down?
Speaker 8 (28:48):
Here's the thing. I'm a realist. Okay, Let's start with
the fact, and I am as thrilled as you are
that we got Donald Trump. That's what we have to
have if we want any hope of making any change
in this country.
Speaker 9 (29:00):
But we have.
Speaker 8 (29:02):
First of all, let's start with the fact that this
election never should have mattered as much as it did, right,
because we have been completely disrespecting the constitutional republic that
our founders created, and a president should never have the
impact that a president has today.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
In the United States. True, right, But let's.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
Go even further. Okay, I'm going to run you guys
through a few things and tell me where I'm wrong.
Right now, we have an executive branch that is headed
by nobody who is elected. Right, we have no elected
official running the executive branch in Washington.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
D C.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Correct, But that's going to change.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
Oh yeah, hold on though, Okay, so because someone's running it.
So this is a branch that has basically taken over
much of our federal government without any regard to the
actual limits on power or that our constitution grants. So
some would call that, I don't know, totalitarian, but anyway,
that's how we've been functioning in this nation for a
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long time. So there's no one in charge, and that
includes as commander in chief of that executive branch. So
we know that somebody's making these decisions. We know that
they are a person or people not elected by the
people who are currently running that executive branch. That's obvious.
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Donald Trump says he's going to come in, and the
people are clamoring for that. He's going to come in.
He's going to put everything back in place. We know
what happened last time, he said similar things, right, spying, investigations, threats, prosecutions, lawsuits,
multiple impeachments, unequal application of the law, COVID, shutting down
the entire economy, and you know, in many cases no
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due process for his supporters and other conservatives. Okay, that
was what happened first time around. He's wiser this time,
and the people are wiser time, I think as well.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
And now.
Speaker 8 (31:05):
And we know since he announced, none of that has
gotten better. It's only gotten worse. Hand and someone's tried
killing him a few times. So tell me if you,
or if this audience like, raise your hand, if you
have any confidence that that man who's going up against
someone or something currently running our government, with all of
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those threats that came last time he tried, has any
confidence that he will ever be allowed to take the
actual reigns of power and steer.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
The Yes, I do, I don't, I do. And I'll
give you some examples, Caroly, because I know what you're saying,
and I and we have and you have every right,
and we have a right to be skeptical and concerned.
This is why why I think it's different. Number One,
you know he will he wisely did not receive any
of the intelligent briefs intelligence briefs that the candidates usually get.
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He knew they would set him up, and he knew
that they would try to make him look bad. He
stayed away from them, which shows that savviness that he
learned from the first term. Second, he did not go
into the transition team model of lobbyists and dc that
every every candidate usually does and they start building this
transition team. Romney did it, everyone does it. He stayed completely.
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He insulated himself away from that environment totally. The thing
that makes me the most excited is I actually think
that Elon Musk is our is our great inventor of
our times. And Elon Musk, He's pointed out there are
over four hundred agencies or departments that are federal federal
agencies or departments. There's only two hundred and forty eight
years as country has existed. He wants to see and
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he is going to, I believe, be tasked with cutting
that having less departments and agencies and we have years
as a country, and I want to see two hundred
agencies with pink slips, and I think we can. I mean,
you got ninety seven percent of those DC swamp rats
that voted for Kamala in that Washington, d C. District
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and they all need to find new endeavors in life.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
And I want to just add to that. I think
his victory last night, Carolyn sent a message to Washington,
get ready, I'm coming. It's going to be a fight,
but I think he's ready to get into that fight,
and I think he has the American people behind him.
The American people want something done, and they see Washington
not doing a darn thing and they want changes.
Speaker 8 (33:20):
I agree with everything both of you just said. These
are Look, he's been shot at multiple times over the
past couple months. I'm not saying that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 9 (33:31):
But think about COVID, think about the law there, think
about the powers. This isn't about his will and the
will of his people and even their brilliance to do
the right thing and avoid some of those pitfalls that
existed the first time. This is about those who are
holding onto the levers of power with every reflect in them.
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Willingly giving it up.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
So, Caroline, I love this discussion, and I've given this
a lot of thought because I think, and I don't
know when it happened that big government and big business
kind of merged into some entity that's not been good.
Wouldn't it have been easier if they had as much
control as I assumed they did. But wouldn't it have
been easier to prevent him from winning than it is
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to prevent him from exercising his power authority as president?
I mean, wouldn't they have stopped that election from being
successful for him? That was the one thing I was
really worried about.
Speaker 8 (34:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Look have you seen the number of
lawsuits that the R and C has filed over the
past three years, ramping up significantly over the past few months.
It made it increasingly difficult to ensure that he didn't win.
But they did everything to everything within their power in
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that direction.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
So they did fight it. R and C did fight back,
or well, you're right, I mean they did. They were
prepared more so than twenty.
Speaker 8 (34:59):
Sure, And and I don't think a lot of those
things are actually over. I don't think it'll make a
difference because of what Rod already said, right, it has
been made clear to our leaders in Washington. Can we
even call them leaders?
Speaker 9 (35:12):
Right, the people who we've.
Speaker 8 (35:14):
Elucted to represent us in Washington, d C. I hate
that we say that, that we call them leaders, But
those people, it's been made clear to them and to
this bureaucratic state what the people want. But I actually
think that desperate times call for desperate measures. And I
don't think we've even seen the end of it. I
think that we're going to see BLM plus Antifa plus
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COVID times ten. And that's just what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
And here's the thing.
Speaker 8 (35:41):
When we do, you need to bring me back on
to talk about it, because I will hang this over
the head.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
This is a mental model. We are going to take
a note in this because I do I do think
it's going to It's not gonna be a cakewalker. No,
I agreed there, But I do think that there's a
bit more of a mandate going in this time than
Trump's had before.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah, we can, Carolyn always find out You're right. Yeah,
we do too, all right, Carolyn, Hey, thanks for joining us, Carolyn,
thank you, all right, Carolyn Finbit Joinnna, she makes some
good points. I mean, I think we realized it's going to.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Be a fight.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, I think it's important to be. We gotta be
girded up. We got, but I want to do it tomorrow.
I'm still celebrating today. I'm not even thinking about that
part of it. But I don't even think the riots
and what the violence I saw on Inauguration Day back
in seventeen January of seventeen, I don't. I don't even
think we'll see that, I like we do before. Maybe
I'm wrong, and if we are, well, Carolyn On, all right, we're.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Going to give you a number that surprised me when
Greg showed me earlier today and get your reaction as
to what on earth is going on in Utah when
it comes to Donald Trump. We're going to be talking
about that coming up here on the Roden Greg Show
and This Wingman Wednesday on Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine k n r S. There are a lot
of numbers out there. I mean, you can break this
down in so many ways and how successful Donald Trump
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was in so many ways. I mean, it's pretty amazing
what he was able to do during that election yesterday,
but this is the one that Greg had and he
showed me today, and to be honest, great I was startled.
I mean I said, I can't believe that. How what
is going on in Utah that would indicate they do
what we do not like Donald Trump? Is that what
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that number shows?
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Let me let me explain to our listeners people with this.
So there is there is so much data out there
in terms of how well President Trump did in his
campaign and how he broke down barriers of race, color, age, gender.
I mean, he was supposed to do so poorly with
the in the gender gap. He didn't do poorly with
the gender gap. It goes on and on and on.
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But the graph I saw showed that in forty eight
of fifty states, and it doesn't matter what that state
is red or blue, Donald Trump's support and votes increased
in every single state, Massachusetts, Hawaii, they exist. They all
increased every single state except for two one Washington state,
(38:03):
Well that's the homeless Seattle. The second Utah what Utah?
Utah is one of only two states out of fifty
states where Trump's numbers did not grow from sixteen to
twenty to twenty four, he did not see an increase
in his votes in this state and that and we
and we own that title with only the state of Washington,
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of which I would argue we have nothing in common.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
One thing.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
We have nothing in common.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
No, and I mean that it is a war zone
in that city. Now it's they've destroyed it. I mean
it's they have that. So it is just it is
really we have to ask ourselves what is going on
in this state? What is happening? You see that, you
see the ranks growing, you see a party that's growing,
You're seeing working class everyday people. You're seeing young people.
I've got a whole thing here about the young people
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that are getting it. Winston Churchill said, if you're young
and you're not liberal, you don't have a brain, or
I don't have a heart. If you're older and you're
not conservved, you don't have a brain. These kids have
hearts and brains together. I mean it is exciting to see.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
So why why is this?
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Greg?
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I mean, our numbers are down for Donald Trump. I
mean they've been going down what since twenty sixteen. Dropped
in twenty twenty, we actually went.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
We went higher in twenty than we were in sixteen,
and we went down lower than we were in twenty.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
The important of election is this was yesterday and vote
and people here in Utah will not vote for Donald
What have they got against this guy?
Speaker 1 (39:28):
My take, and I just believe that Utah has you know,
every every state and every metropolitan area has its own
regime media, local media. Utah is unique in that seventy
five percent live in one TV market of this population,
seventy five percent of the population.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
An unusual state in that regard. It is we have
one major media center for the entire state.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
It would it would, They argue, there's a there's a
stat out there that Utah becomes one of the most
urban suburban states in America because seventy five percent of
population live in this one suburban or urban area. This
US at front, that TV, you know, news media market
does not like Donald Trump. And they and they can't
stop telling you how much they don't like Donald Trump.
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Now the people push back on this interesting stat is
if you look at the votes between Donald Trump and
how many he received and Governor Spencer Cox in his reelection,
Trump received more votes than Governor Spencer Cox did in
his reelection. Here in the state of Utah. A lot
of people, especially the I would argue that Utah's media
would argue that Cox would receive more votes in Utah
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than Trump, but Trump's received more. But what I'm almost
embarrassed with this administration to say that we and the
state of Washington are the only two states where Trump's
support and vote count did not increase.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
In an election like yesterday. And how important that election is.
I'd like to know what's going on here in the
state of Utah. Is it well, he doesn't play nice?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Is it Morommie and Jeff Flake? Are they and their
support of the Democrats good? Are they the more that
they're you know, they're the moral ones that are telling
us that we're all apparently I'm all of America's up
in the night. Yeah, because I'm telling you this is
you have a you have a border county in Texas.
Ninety seven percent of Spanic that flipped to Trump in
overwhelming numbers. And it's it's never happened before, and they
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went with Trump this this last yesterday, ninety percent.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Of Spanic in every demographic you look at, young men,
young women, you name it, Trump improved. But here in
the state of Utah, our support for Trump dropped. Help
us understand this eight eight eight five seven o eight
zero one zero triple eight five seven o eight zero
one zero on your cell phone, I'll pound two fifty
and say, hey, Rod, your calls and comments coming up
(41:39):
on the Rotting Greg Show, The Wingman Wednesday edition right
here on Utah's talk Radio one oh five nine k nrs.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Trump has gained ground in all but two states in
the United States. Every state. I have the graph here.
You see the arrows all pointing to the right, red red,
right arrows going right in terms of support regular rush
is miss oral and and there's only two states where
there's that's an exception in the state of Washington is one,
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and the state of Utah is too.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
So fewer people in twenty twenty four here in the
state of Utah voted for Donald Trump. They they did
in twenty twenty or twenty sixteen. Yep, really yep. And
Washington is the other one, and all the other states
voted for him.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Yeah, And let me let me I'm reading this little
I gotta be very careful because it's the margin of
the victory over the Republican, the Republican margin over the Democrat,
and twenty and twenty four increased with Trump and him
being the nominee in twenty and twenty four, he increased
that margin of victory against the Democrat candidate for president,
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and every state but ours in Washington.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
St alright, let's find out why. Let's go to the phones.
Let's stalk with Robert in Sandy tonight here on the
rodden greg show, go ahead, Robert, Hi.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Guys, I moved here from Colorado, and for a long
time I was a precinct chairman there, and I watched
my state of Colorado go from being a red state
to a pink state, to a purple state to one
of the most solid blue states in the country. And
the root of it, well, there's a couple routes, but
one of them is a lot of Californians moved to Colorado.
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They moved to Boulder, and they moved to Denver.
Speaker 10 (43:18):
Colorado Springs is.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
The most conservative city in the United States, evangelical capital
of the country. And they used to bring in seventy
percent Republicans, but they dropped down into the low or
excuse me, the high fifties, which is still pretty good.
But you lose the votes in El Paso County, you
get all the Californias that move into Boulder in Denver
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and lo and behold, we're a blue state. And I'm
worried because Salt Lake County. If you look at the
elections in Salt Lake County, the Democrats won, not just
in Salt Lake City, but across the county. Democrats did
very well. And I think that a large part of
that is two things. One, the number of people involved
in the churches dropped. And you know, lbs people tend
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to be Republican since fewer and fewer people in the
state are members of the church and more people are not.
And you've got California's moving in. There's a demographic change
happening here. And I'm worried that Utah is going to
fall into the same trap that my Colorado did.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Boy, I hope not, Robert, But boy, do we hear
what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah, it all sounds sadly familiar, and I'm aware of that.
How that shift in Colorado happened, It happened quick. Yeah, sure,
and it was troublesome. So let's go, let's hear more
from our callers. Let's go to Jeremy and Orum. Jeremy,
welcome to the Rod and Greg show Good Evening.
Speaker 11 (44:37):
So I have a comment. The question was was whire
Utah's not voting as much for Trump. I support President
Trump as a president, but I cannot support him morally.
I think that goes along with a lot of people
here in the state have the same feeling. Where he's
been a product of or part of multiple places where
he's been a victim or helping. Sorry hope this comes
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across right, take advantage of women at certain points in
his life, and it's hard to vote for somebody that's
done that. I have a daughter that's been taken advantage
of by somebody in authority, and so I have a
hard time supporting somebody that that has been guilty of that.
And I think a lot of people where we are
a highly Christian area have the same feeling. I've got
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multiple friends that think the same way. As a person.
We cannot support the person, but can support him as
a good president because we feel that he's going to
be a great president, but it's hard to vote for
him as a person. And so that's where I think
my personal opinion is what's going on with a lot
of things in Utah.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Jeremy just real question or question for me that I haven't.
It's I appreciate your comment and and your perspective. Does
that leave you wanting to not vote? Or do you
think there's candidates out there that have that higher moral
standard that you could that you could support, or or
does it just does it just chill the voter turnout?
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Do you think?
Speaker 11 (46:00):
Well, right now, the choices were not a very moral
choice either way we go, And so how do you
how do you choose what's right out of the choice
that we have? Yeah, you know, That's that's where the
difficult part is. And again, I think President Trump is
going to be an excellent president. I think he's going
to take the country where it needs to go. But
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how can you support somebody that's guilty of doing the
things he's done where you have somebody that's a victim
of that in your same in your own family.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
I can, all right, I see where he's coming from
on that. I do understand that a little bit. Let's
go to Jason on I fifteen didnight hear on the
Rod on Greg Show? Hi, Jason, how are you.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
Hi?
Speaker 12 (46:40):
Guys good? I actually have a very similar opinion to
the previous callers that when it came down to it,
I thought I ended up just writing in somebody. And
part of the reason for that is, it's Utah, We're
going to vote for the Republican, it doesn't matter who
it is. I just thought it was such a poor
choice of a Republican. I would have gone for any
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of the other nominees in the in the primary, but
I couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump. It's the
first time I didn't vote for a Republican in the
presidential election. I didn't vote for many of the three
times I didn't vote for Hillary either, any of that,
but as a person, he is just so immoral and
such a bad example. I want the Republican Party to
do better now. If I were in a swing state,
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I'd probably have to look at a bit harder. Like
I said, there's no way I could have voted for Kamala.
I think she was terrible.
Speaker 10 (47:29):
But that's that's the reason.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
I think.
Speaker 10 (47:31):
There's a lot of people that are kind of.
Speaker 12 (47:32):
The same way.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Oh right, interesting, interesting, I'm surprised by some of the
comments today. Greg to be real, Hones, we got a
lot of people who will get to here in a minute.
But I'm a bit surprised by some of the comments,
are you.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Well, I just think whatever sins are talking about when
some people's sins that are more public than others, I
just don't I do just don't know if it's uh,
you're you're placing the same emphasis on the same people,
if you know or don't know. And I think some
of the things about Trump are clearly uh I've blown
out of proportion or not accurate.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Why some people I don't know what it is about
some Utah voters and why they're so against Donald Trump?
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Right, Yeah, I think it's we get you get into
some tough territory when you start deciding who's moral in
the life and who's not. I just don't know if
that's I mean, I just you don't know what persons
ask for forgiveness repair, whatever it may be. I just
think that there's a that's a qualification in politics or
in elections that you don't know enough about anyone to
really land. And I don't know that if just if
someone's h if there's allegations or people accuse someone, particularly
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if they're unpopular politically, that you should take that to
the bank as all they are. I say that, but
also you know, people qualify that as president, they could
see some good things, uh for that for Trump being
president as well. Let's go to the phones. Let's go
to Nephi and Mill Creek, Nephi. Thank you for holding
and thank you for calling the Rod and Gregg Show.
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What do you think about this statistic that only two states,
Washington State and Utah had a did not grow in
terms of Trump's support in all the states in America.
But for Washington and Utah.
Speaker 13 (49:04):
Well, I'm just looking through the results for Salt Lake
County alone, and there's only a handful of Republicans that
actually won just based on votes in that county. So
the previous caller who talked about that happening in Colorado
might be correct. But the other thing I wanted to
comment on was earlier Jeremy pointed out that he couldn't
vote for Trump because of his morals, but he did
(49:27):
vote for him because he likes his policies. And as
you probably had guessed, I'm LDS and I made the
same jump because in twenty sixteen, I didn't vote for
him in the primary in the primaries, but I did
in the general election. And you know, I asked the
same question. But I think as Christians we have to
ask ourself do we believe in forgiveness? And we don't
(49:49):
know the morals of public individuals. We don't really know
what goes on in their lives, and it's unfair to
kind of paint them with what we hear in the
news I think about them. I think it's a horrible
mistake we make. And what you can do, though, is
you can look at his family and you know, he's
got great relationship, but his one ex wife is kids.
So if he had moral problems in the past, you know,
(50:13):
all you can do is assume he's repented, he's moved on,
and he's a good man.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
You know, Yeah, yeah, you know. I think you need
to look at it that way. You're right. Let's go
to Troy in Farmington tonight here on the Rodding Greg show.
Go ahead, Troy, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 10 (50:28):
Yeah, thanks for letting me come on. Very very interesting information.
I had not heard that Utah went backwards. To be
honest with you, it's embarrassing to me and frustrating.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
I feel the same as.
Speaker 10 (50:38):
A life as a lifelong Republican and almost a life
while latter day Saint it infuriates me, and I'll tell
you why, because it is. I don't know if it's
either hypocritical or it's inconsistent, or it's both of those things.
But here's where I land on this, and I do
kind of want to verbally slap around those who are
making these decisions.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Yeah, real quick, about twenty seconds, Troy, make it real quick,
twenty seconds.
Speaker 10 (51:03):
Yeah, nobody knows the morality of their airline pilot. They
just jump on that plane because he can get the
job done. Politics is a blood sport. We hired him
not to be our bishop, but to be our bodyguard,
and he's already done it once really well. And he
can do that, and we should stop asking so much
about his personal life and make sure he can do
the job we're hiring him to do.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah, you're right, Mario, Troy makes really good points.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
Yeah he hit that over the fence. I feel the
same way.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
All Right, that's going to wrap it up for us tonight.
We'll be back tomorrow and Election Day wrap up special
coming your way next right here on Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five nine. Kayn Rest, we'll talk to you
tomorrow
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