April 3, 2026 • 8 mins
From Indianapolis at the Final Four, we welcome NBA and Michigan legend and TNT Sports analyst, Jalen Rose, who is here on behalf of Lilly, to discuss how health takes all of us—and it’s what keeps us moving forward.
Rose also shares his thoughts on this Final Four field, the narrative of the 'dying Cinderella' in the NCAA Tournament, and gives his perspective on the NBA pushing back on 'player rest' throughout the league.
Events like the Final Four create unique opportunities to remind people of all generations that progress is built over time, and it starts with health. The Final Four brings people together across generations, which is a great opportunity to celebrate Lilly’s 150 years of advancing science and improving lives.
Jalen Rose understands this firsthand given his journey from player to mentor to broadcaster while being certain to take care of himself along the way.· To support this, Jalen just finished moderating a panel discussion called Legacy In Motion featuring WNBA superstar, Caitlin Clark, and Kansas Jayhawks forward, Darryn Peterson, to discuss why prioritizing health is so critical.· To learn about Lilly and their awareness initiatives through sports, visit Lilly.com and follow on Instagram @EliLilly
Rose also shares his thoughts on this Final Four field, the narrative of the 'dying Cinderella' in the NCAA Tournament, and gives his perspective on the NBA pushing back on 'player rest' throughout the league.
Events like the Final Four create unique opportunities to remind people of all generations that progress is built over time, and it starts with health. The Final Four brings people together across generations, which is a great opportunity to celebrate Lilly’s 150 years of advancing science and improving lives.
Jalen Rose understands this firsthand given his journey from player to mentor to broadcaster while being certain to take care of himself along the way.· To support this, Jalen just finished moderating a panel discussion called Legacy In Motion featuring WNBA superstar, Caitlin Clark, and Kansas Jayhawks forward, Darryn Peterson, to discuss why prioritizing health is so critical.· To learn about Lilly and their awareness initiatives through sports, visit Lilly.com and follow on Instagram @EliLilly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm the Final four in Indianapolis, Michigan. Great NBA, great
(00:04):
excellent television broadcaster and courtesy of Lily joins us here
on the show. It's Jalen Rose, Jalen, It's Matt and Ross.
Thank you for the time. First of all, it is
so good to have you back on television. How are
you friend?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Thanks for the love. I appreciate being on the show.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Hey, first of all, how are you and Lily getting
involved this weekend or in the Final four?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
One hundred and fifty years Lily keeping all of us healthy.
I just did an incredible panel with Darren Peterson of
the University of Kansas is probably gonna be a top
five pick, and Caitlin Clark, who's been a revolutionary basketball
player not only collegiate sports but also in the WNBA,
(00:45):
and just admiring their maturity and their skill. And so
I'm very grateful that Lily brought us all together and
giving us an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Have we lost this underella story in college basketball? March
madness R. Do you think it's just been a couple
of years where all these heavy favorites that started to
come into play.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Not at all because of Nil. If you get a school,
a mid major that's going to invest in the team
and are able to recruit a couple of top flight players,
they'll be in a position to make a Sweet sixteen,
making the League eight, make a Final four. I just
feel like teams that are here now. For example, if
(01:29):
you look at a school like Arizona, so it's a
basketball school, but they haven't been to the Final four.
And over twenty years, the University of Michigan, we won
a single championship and that was nineteen eighty nine Illinois.
They outplayed expectation. And Yukon has more championships probably than
(01:55):
all of the people combined. And so there is room
for Cinderella. But news flash, as we've talked about that
over decades, about the tournament and March Madness and Cinderello whatever,
Cinderella has never cut down the nets.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So just take the chalk the rest of the way,
because I mean, look, my Houston Cougars were a two
seed and didn't get there, And I honestly, I mean
the nil money I think is going to is going
to ultimately hurt the Florida Gulf Coast of the world
and the George Mason's of the world. That was my point. More,
Jalen is I think that we're going to see maybe
as many upsets in the years past. But if you're
(02:35):
not caring, I mean, look at what Mick Cronin said, Jalen,
just last week. What does he need? Needs five million dollars?
That's UCLA's coach talking that he did. He didn't mess around.
He went right right to this, I need cash, homie cards.
When he went to.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I you brought up Mick Cronin E coast of the
day UCLA. UCLA is probably one of the if not
the most prestigious collegiate basketball schools ever. I think they
have more championships than any team ever. He's in Los Angeles.
(03:12):
I was working the McDonald's High School All American Game
three nights ago, and they had three or four players
from LA. So that's on you USC the same thing.
They're in position. They just got to recruit, lockdown the players,
and build a team. Not when a player gets a
(03:34):
flagrant file at Michigan State, send them to the locker room.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Jalen Rose t and T sports analyst NBA Michigan legend
from Indianapolis here with us on Sports Talk seven ninety
Cursy of Lily dot Com. Jalen, you're with Lily to
talk about prioritizing hell. So that brings me to talk
about the hot topic of the NBA. What do you
think about all these injuries that are happening to the
star players and the sixty five games played limit, and
(04:03):
what do you think is kind of a solution to
solving these issues with these injuries that have been popping
up in the season.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
So, as a Midwest kid, I grew up playing whatever
sport happened that season. So if you saw me on
my podcast, I was carrying your back because I thought
I was Barry Bonds or Rock Carew as a left
handed hitter. Then football season came. I'm alliance fan, and
(04:34):
I joked that that's an abusive relationship, but I'm still loyal,
and so what I feel about injuries in the game.
And I just talked about this recently and Krunk Boxing,
also Emmanuel Stewart, the Legend Rest in Peace, Tommy Hurns,
(04:57):
I've gone to Kronk, I've stood in the ring, I've
got my nose busted and everything. The thing about being
a fighter, and I'm going to relate it to basketball
is once you're in the ring and you get hit
a few times, you get used to it and it
becomes a part of your DNA that you can take
(05:18):
more punches. I feel like one of the things that
is missing with the current athlete is they don't play
outside on concrete anymore. That helps your lickingmness your joints.
You're cutting, your moving, you're falling on cements. You want
to test your love for basketball be in Detroit in December,
(05:44):
in the middle of winter and trying to shovel the
court with a cold, hard basketball where you're putting it
in somebody's living room and you're flopping out the basketball
every other game because freezing outside. And so for me,
the current players don't play outdoors. They don't play five
(06:09):
h five in red ball, they don't play in celebrity games.
So therefore, when we were playing summer league during the
off season, they're giving you summer league type play during
the season, and that's what you see. I'm not mad
(06:31):
at the sixty five game mandate because like anything else
and Pro football, they used to tackle during the game
and during the Pro Bowl. Now they're playing flag football.
So for Adam Silver, I got to create something to
at least make these guys want to compete every night.
(06:52):
You can't get more money and play less games, and
so Kay Cunningham is a perfect example. Was a Pistonstan.
He played sixty one games, he was going to be
all NBA. He was in the conversation for MVP. But
now since he won't make that mandate, he won't be
a part of the awards. I think that's an anomaly
(07:16):
and I hate that for him, But overall, I'm not
mad at the rule of trying to make sure that
you get players to compete on the nightly basis because
people are paying to go to the games, people are
rearrating their schedules and falling in love with the sport.
It's just unfortunate that you don't know sometimes who's going
(07:40):
to be on the court. And that's what helps the
popularity of football because it's almost like a shotgun season
seventeen eighteen weeks. It's the shield, not the player. You
know what you're going to get. If I'm betting, I
know Matthew Stafford is going to get one hundred and
fifty yards in one TV. I know Jared Goff's going
to get a hundred and fifty yards of one TV.
(08:01):
So if I'm putting together a parlay all of a sudden,
that makes it a more attractive product than the NBA.
Where if it's a Wednesday night, just like last night, well,
I was watching my Pistons play and I turned on
the TV. Anthony Edwards wasn't even playing. That's right, and
so that's one of the problems that the NBA has
(08:22):
to try to figure out.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Hey, I want to get job because I got other
folks that get to lily dot com is where you
can find out more about how you and Lily are
working together to improve lives.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Correct. Yes, one hundred and fifty years for Lily.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Hey, I'm so happy that you came on our show today.
Thank you for providing us great soundbites. I'm glad you're
back on television. Keep Charles and the rest of that
crew and check on the TNT Final four coverage, and
we look forward to seeing you throughout the rest of
the NBA and college season. Thank you, Jaalen for the time.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
We really appreciate it. I appreciate the love and have
a good day.
I'm the Final four in Indianapolis, Michigan. Great NBA, great
(00:04):
excellent television broadcaster and courtesy of Lily joins us here
on the show. It's Jalen Rose, Jalen, It's Matt and Ross.
Thank you for the time. First of all, it is
so good to have you back on television. How are
you friend?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Thanks for the love. I appreciate being on the show.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Hey, first of all, how are you and Lily getting
involved this weekend or in the Final four?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
One hundred and fifty years Lily keeping all of us healthy.
I just did an incredible panel with Darren Peterson of
the University of Kansas is probably gonna be a top
five pick, and Caitlin Clark, who's been a revolutionary basketball
player not only collegiate sports but also in the WNBA,
(00:45):
and just admiring their maturity and their skill. And so
I'm very grateful that Lily brought us all together and
giving us an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Have we lost this underella story in college basketball? March
madness R. Do you think it's just been a couple
of years where all these heavy favorites that started to
come into play.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Not at all because of Nil. If you get a school,
a mid major that's going to invest in the team
and are able to recruit a couple of top flight players,
they'll be in a position to make a Sweet sixteen,
making the League eight, make a Final four. I just
feel like teams that are here now. For example, if
(01:29):
you look at a school like Arizona, so it's a
basketball school, but they haven't been to the Final four.
And over twenty years, the University of Michigan, we won
a single championship and that was nineteen eighty nine Illinois.
They outplayed expectation. And Yukon has more championships probably than
(01:55):
all of the people combined. And so there is room
for Cinderella. But news flash, as we've talked about that
over decades, about the tournament and March Madness and Cinderello whatever,
Cinderella has never cut down the nets.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So just take the chalk the rest of the way,
because I mean, look, my Houston Cougars were a two
seed and didn't get there, And I honestly, I mean
the nil money I think is going to is going
to ultimately hurt the Florida Gulf Coast of the world
and the George Mason's of the world. That was my point. More,
Jalen is I think that we're going to see maybe
as many upsets in the years past. But if you're
(02:35):
not caring, I mean, look at what Mick Cronin said, Jalen,
just last week. What does he need? Needs five million dollars?
That's UCLA's coach talking that he did. He didn't mess around.
He went right right to this, I need cash, homie cards.
When he went to.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I you brought up Mick Cronin E coast of the
day UCLA. UCLA is probably one of the if not
the most prestigious collegiate basketball schools ever. I think they
have more championships than any team ever. He's in Los Angeles.
(03:12):
I was working the McDonald's High School All American Game
three nights ago, and they had three or four players
from LA. So that's on you USC the same thing.
They're in position. They just got to recruit, lockdown the players,
and build a team. Not when a player gets a
(03:34):
flagrant file at Michigan State, send them to the locker room.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Jalen Rose t and T sports analyst NBA Michigan legend
from Indianapolis here with us on Sports Talk seven ninety
Cursy of Lily dot Com. Jalen, you're with Lily to
talk about prioritizing hell. So that brings me to talk
about the hot topic of the NBA. What do you
think about all these injuries that are happening to the
star players and the sixty five games played limit, and
(04:03):
what do you think is kind of a solution to
solving these issues with these injuries that have been popping
up in the season.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
So, as a Midwest kid, I grew up playing whatever
sport happened that season. So if you saw me on
my podcast, I was carrying your back because I thought
I was Barry Bonds or Rock Carew as a left
handed hitter. Then football season came. I'm alliance fan, and
(04:34):
I joked that that's an abusive relationship, but I'm still loyal,
and so what I feel about injuries in the game.
And I just talked about this recently and Krunk Boxing,
also Emmanuel Stewart, the Legend Rest in Peace, Tommy Hurns,
(04:57):
I've gone to Kronk, I've stood in the ring, I've
got my nose busted and everything. The thing about being
a fighter, and I'm going to relate it to basketball
is once you're in the ring and you get hit
a few times, you get used to it and it
becomes a part of your DNA that you can take
(05:18):
more punches. I feel like one of the things that
is missing with the current athlete is they don't play
outside on concrete anymore. That helps your lickingmness your joints.
You're cutting, your moving, you're falling on cements. You want
to test your love for basketball be in Detroit in December,
(05:44):
in the middle of winter and trying to shovel the
court with a cold, hard basketball where you're putting it
in somebody's living room and you're flopping out the basketball
every other game because freezing outside. And so for me,
the current players don't play outdoors. They don't play five
(06:09):
h five in red ball, they don't play in celebrity games.
So therefore, when we were playing summer league during the
off season, they're giving you summer league type play during
the season, and that's what you see. I'm not mad
(06:31):
at the sixty five game mandate because like anything else
and Pro football, they used to tackle during the game
and during the Pro Bowl. Now they're playing flag football.
So for Adam Silver, I got to create something to
at least make these guys want to compete every night.
(06:52):
You can't get more money and play less games, and
so Kay Cunningham is a perfect example. Was a Pistonstan.
He played sixty one games, he was going to be
all NBA. He was in the conversation for MVP. But
now since he won't make that mandate, he won't be
a part of the awards. I think that's an anomaly
(07:16):
and I hate that for him, But overall, I'm not
mad at the rule of trying to make sure that
you get players to compete on the nightly basis because
people are paying to go to the games, people are
rearrating their schedules and falling in love with the sport.
It's just unfortunate that you don't know sometimes who's going
(07:40):
to be on the court. And that's what helps the
popularity of football because it's almost like a shotgun season
seventeen eighteen weeks. It's the shield, not the player. You
know what you're going to get. If I'm betting, I
know Matthew Stafford is going to get one hundred and
fifty yards in one TV. I know Jared Goff's going
to get a hundred and fifty yards of one TV.
(08:01):
So if I'm putting together a parlay all of a sudden,
that makes it a more attractive product than the NBA.
Where if it's a Wednesday night, just like last night, well,
I was watching my Pistons play and I turned on
the TV. Anthony Edwards wasn't even playing. That's right, and
so that's one of the problems that the NBA has
(08:22):
to try to figure out.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Hey, I want to get job because I got other
folks that get to lily dot com is where you
can find out more about how you and Lily are
working together to improve lives.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Correct. Yes, one hundred and fifty years for Lily.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Hey, I'm so happy that you came on our show today.
Thank you for providing us great soundbites. I'm glad you're
back on television. Keep Charles and the rest of that
crew and check on the TNT Final four coverage, and
we look forward to seeing you throughout the rest of
the NBA and college season. Thank you, Jaalen for the time.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
We really appreciate it. I appreciate the love and have
a good day.
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