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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, so let's get in a little bit of astros,
(00:01):
because well, do you have the GM meetings happening in
Vegas where you can keep the money, get the hammer,
you can walk out of here and leave. You can't
have both. We found that out with cheaters. Justice there
and the second guy after his buddy is right there,
look what and me in little casino for you right there?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
What a part? Right there?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Where where Ace Rostein walks in flicks the cigarette.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
All right, let me go.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I'm gonna give you two options here. You can either
take the money, get the hammer, you can walk out
of here and leave. You can't have both. I'll take
the second option, and don't forget to tell your friends
what happens if they mess around here. What a part,
what a scene? What a movie. But it's like all
mob movies. It always ends, it always ends the same.
Everybody either gets clipped or everybody goes to prison. It's
(00:44):
it's it's a tale as old as time. I always
love that with people. Oh but it had a sad ending,
of course it did. It's a mob movie. It's not
a glamorous life. It might look like it, but then
soon enough, Yeah, that's what happens. You either go to
prison for the rest of your life or you die.
It's one of those two options. That's how that life goes. Anyway,
It's not a life for that situation for the Astros.
(01:05):
But at least this offseason, if they missed the playoffs again,
I mean, you know, it could be I mean, maybe
we could be having some interesting conversations next year if
that's the case.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
But let's make sure that's not the case.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Because Joe A Spotta last night on Astro Line and
one of the storylines of course this offseason Alex Sindron gone,
Troyce Nitker gone, other changes being made to the staff,
either by the team or the case of Bill Murphy
moving on and going up to the Pittsburgh Pirates.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
But Joe A.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Spotta talking about making some of those changes heading into
the third year of his tenure.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Have some really difficult conversation with some great coaches. Uh
they're really good people, guys who helped us bring bring
championships to our organization. But for us to keep these going,
we thought that it change needs to be made and
and and we did, and uh, you know, our roster
is changing. We have to make sure that we bring
(02:01):
that at dynamic offense, our identity back to who we were,
and so we were moving forward bringing some guys in
that I know can bring our offense back. We could
have some change our message and how we address some
of the offensive issues that we had. So I'm very excited.
We've having some conversation with some coaches. So right now
(02:24):
it's I think we are putting ourselves in a position
where we can get our offense going and bring our
identity back, which I think is very important.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So he said something there a couple of times, which
he's going to expand upon here in just a second.
But the identity of this team of trying to get
back to being a team where you put together good
at bats, maybe you work a walk, maybe you hit
a ball at the right side, get a guy over
to third base. And you notice I didn't even say
the B word right there. No, don't even say it.
Don't do it because it's not Happening's team's not going.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
To do it, Gordy.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
But of some of the things that this team the
last couple of years seemingly had gotten away from, and
I think that he said the right things there in
the beginning without mentioning the names Alex Sinchron and Choice
Nitker and look proofs in the pudding. I mean, those
guys were out of work for what a week before
Sinchron catches on with the Rangers, and before him, Snitker
catching on with the Mets. So it's obvious that they're
(03:17):
still widely regarded in the game, and they were able
to catch on pretty quickly and get.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Back into the game that way.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
But I mean, it still doesn't underscore the fact of
the way that this offense was, by their standards and
by most standards, ferociously bad last season. Sure, at best,
they were middle of the pack everywhere else, but we
all know Gordy middle of the pack. Injuries, no injuries
that ain't going to get it done, and changes had
to be made.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yeah, they were fifteenth last year and on base percentage
fifteenth and slugging fifteenth in ops. They had been a
top ten team in all those categories the previous years.
And I get it, you lost Bregnan, you lost Tucker,
but Hea, he added Paradus, he added Walker. They were
supposed to pick up the slack from the power perspective,
and you know.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Paradis did He carried his weight.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
He was an All Star, but then missed a big
chunk of the second half of the season, and then
of course you had you know, Christian Walker just was
the struckout king all year, not being able to put
balls into play and all that kind of stuff. So
the hope is, do you get in some voices in
here that will get you back to being what you're
(04:25):
supposed to be, And that's a good hitting team and
a team that works counts and a team that you know,
gets guys on base and all that kind of stuff.
So yeah, McTaggart had the report last week. Victor Rodriguez
is uh, you know, they were in talks getting real
close to a deal to adding him as a new
hitting coach, but I guess they weren't ready to make
(04:46):
that official announcement.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Usually when that happens, they will just make announcements all
the way across the board of he's our new hitting coach,
final coaching staffs there.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
So I think that's probably in play right now.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
But you just touched on it about the Astros getting
back to what they've been offensively. Obviously a couple of
times their Joe a spot at did but as I mentioned,
he expanded upon trying to get back to where they
have been offensively in the past.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
We are a good offense where we control the pace
of the game. Well, what I mean with that is,
you know an offense that is long, it's in nine hole,
hitters working working at the same pace with the same objective.
We have to get on base more. We have to
make our opponents work more. We got to know, We've
got to be very specific to our players. There's strength
(05:38):
and weaknesses, what we do best, how we can work
together to make sure that when we struggle it's for
a short term. Dynamic offense is one that beats you
from many different ways. Not only we slug, but we
could on base, we speed taking extra base. When when
we've had that offense at dynamic off that moult that
(06:01):
everyone is working together is very is one very difficult
to beat.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
And I mean it's for what he just said right
there about setting the pace of the game. The Astros
when they were at their best last year, they did that.
Jake Myers in the nine hole was able to do
exactly what he just said. Sure, Jeremy Penia is a
little bit more aggressive in the lead off spot, but
then you add eastak peretis right there in the two
(06:27):
spot where he's liable to work as quick an at
bat as anyone, but also too liable to also work
an at bat that was about nine or ten pitches
and you look back at it and say, hmmm, that's
how we knocked that guy out in the sixth inning,
because well, that guy was able to tire him out
with a couple of really good, lengthy at bats in there.
So t one hundred percent what he said, and that's
what the Astros have been in the past. And I
(06:48):
thought something else, and maybe we'll hear him say, because
I think it's in another cut of talking about you know,
this team not only being as long a lineup as
they been in the past, but also too, I mean, just.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Being a team that just grinds you down.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
And that's something that we didn't see a ton And
another thing that he has mentioned about, you know, their
struggles where we saw a prolonged struggles plural last season
because there would be a four or five game stretch
and maybe they'd kind of jump back in because remember
when the Astros were really getting after it in seventeen,
eighteen nineteen, those years like they would have some games
(07:27):
where you're just like, h not a ton offensively tonight,
and maybe they lost three or four in a row,
and you're just kind of like, come on, guys, like
figure this out. And it was always one inning in
a game where they put up like seven or eight
runs and you're like, there they are. There's those guys.
I knew they were still there, and I knew and
I knew that they could still do that. Hadn't seen
(07:48):
as much of that because well, you don't have as
much of the firepower as you used to have, but Gordy,
you still have good hitters in this lineup.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, it's funny. I had to go back.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
That was kind of reminiscing going back to that. Remember
that series second to last weekend where the Astros were
hosting the Mariners and what they both tried to block
it out, but they both came in. Both came in
that series tied, right, same record. Yeah, and you were
facing Brian Wu on that Friday night it was Hunter
Brown versus well, Brian Wu. You're like, oh, man, hell
(08:17):
of a pitching pitching matchup. I'm just looking at the bats,
you know, first hitting, payinga flies out. Korea strikes out,
Parada strikes out. Okay, that's first inning. Second inning, Al
two Va strikes out, Zach Cole bunts grounds out to
the pitcher, Christian Walker strikes out.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Swing It's done that all year.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Third inning, DS grounds out, Sanchez flies out, Myers grounds out.
It's just like, and I'm looking in and some of
those are only three pitch, four pitch at bats. You
weren't really working the count, you weren't so like to me,
that's that epitomizes what I'll remember about the twenty twenty
five five Astros. It's like, God, they really I mean,
they had some games where the offense came alive, but
(08:57):
for the most part, that's what the offense us for
much of the year. It was just like, God, can
can somebody get on base? Can somebody do something? Like
just threatened at least a little bit? And I understand
you face some good pitching, but that, to me, epitomizes
what the plant approaches were this year.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
So I was gonna go a little bit more hot
stove with the Astros in the next segment. But something
else that Joe Aspot has said that I do think
needs to be mentioned, and that is about how the
offense will be handled this season, And I think his answer,
if you missed it, might surprise some people out there,
So we'll have that for you. As that we continue
to roll along here on a Western Wednesday, here on
(09:36):
the seven ninety morning show Sports Talk seven to ninety
All right, so let's get in a little bit of astros,
(00:01):
because well, do you have the GM meetings happening in
Vegas where you can keep the money, get the hammer,
you can walk out of here and leave. You can't
have both. We found that out with cheaters. Justice there
and the second guy after his buddy is right there,
look what and me in little casino for you right there?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
What a part? Right there?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Where where Ace Rostein walks in flicks the cigarette.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
All right, let me go.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I'm gonna give you two options here. You can either
take the money, get the hammer, you can walk out
of here and leave. You can't have both. I'll take
the second option, and don't forget to tell your friends
what happens if they mess around here. What a part,
what a scene? What a movie. But it's like all
mob movies. It always ends, it always ends the same.
Everybody either gets clipped or everybody goes to prison. It's
(00:44):
it's it's a tale as old as time. I always
love that with people. Oh but it had a sad ending,
of course it did. It's a mob movie. It's not
a glamorous life. It might look like it, but then
soon enough, Yeah, that's what happens. You either go to
prison for the rest of your life or you die.
It's one of those two options. That's how that life goes. Anyway,
It's not a life for that situation for the Astros.
(01:05):
But at least this offseason, if they missed the playoffs again,
I mean, you know, it could be I mean, maybe
we could be having some interesting conversations next year if
that's the case.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
But let's make sure that's not the case.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Because Joe A Spotta last night on Astro Line and
one of the storylines of course this offseason Alex Sindron gone,
Troyce Nitker gone, other changes being made to the staff,
either by the team or the case of Bill Murphy
moving on and going up to the Pittsburgh Pirates.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
But Joe A.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Spotta talking about making some of those changes heading into
the third year of his tenure.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Have some really difficult conversation with some great coaches. Uh
they're really good people, guys who helped us bring bring
championships to our organization. But for us to keep these going,
we thought that it change needs to be made and
and and we did, and uh, you know, our roster
is changing. We have to make sure that we bring
(02:01):
that at dynamic offense, our identity back to who we were,
and so we were moving forward bringing some guys in
that I know can bring our offense back. We could
have some change our message and how we address some
of the offensive issues that we had. So I'm very excited.
We've having some conversation with some coaches. So right now
(02:24):
it's I think we are putting ourselves in a position
where we can get our offense going and bring our
identity back, which I think is very important.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So he said something there a couple of times, which
he's going to expand upon here in just a second.
But the identity of this team of trying to get
back to being a team where you put together good
at bats, maybe you work a walk, maybe you hit
a ball at the right side, get a guy over
to third base. And you notice I didn't even say
the B word right there. No, don't even say it.
Don't do it because it's not Happening's team's not going.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
To do it, Gordy.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
But of some of the things that this team the
last couple of years seemingly had gotten away from, and
I think that he said the right things there in
the beginning without mentioning the names Alex Sinchron and Choice
Nitker and look proofs in the pudding. I mean, those
guys were out of work for what a week before
Sinchron catches on with the Rangers, and before him, Snitker
catching on with the Mets. So it's obvious that they're
(03:17):
still widely regarded in the game, and they were able
to catch on pretty quickly and get.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Back into the game that way.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
But I mean, it still doesn't underscore the fact of
the way that this offense was, by their standards and
by most standards, ferociously bad last season. Sure, at best,
they were middle of the pack everywhere else, but we
all know Gordy middle of the pack. Injuries, no injuries
that ain't going to get it done, and changes had
to be made.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yeah, they were fifteenth last year and on base percentage
fifteenth and slugging fifteenth in ops. They had been a
top ten team in all those categories the previous years.
And I get it, you lost Bregnan, you lost Tucker,
but Hea, he added Paradus, he added Walker. They were
supposed to pick up the slack from the power perspective,
and you know.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Paradis did He carried his weight.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
He was an All Star, but then missed a big
chunk of the second half of the season, and then
of course you had you know, Christian Walker just was
the struckout king all year, not being able to put
balls into play and all that kind of stuff. So
the hope is, do you get in some voices in
here that will get you back to being what you're
(04:25):
supposed to be, And that's a good hitting team and
a team that works counts and a team that you know,
gets guys on base and all that kind of stuff.
So yeah, McTaggart had the report last week. Victor Rodriguez
is uh, you know, they were in talks getting real
close to a deal to adding him as a new
hitting coach, but I guess they weren't ready to make
(04:46):
that official announcement.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Usually when that happens, they will just make announcements all
the way across the board of he's our new hitting coach,
final coaching staffs there.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
So I think that's probably in play right now.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
But you just touched on it about the Astros getting
back to what they've been offensively. Obviously a couple of
times their Joe a spot at did but as I mentioned,
he expanded upon trying to get back to where they
have been offensively in the past.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
We are a good offense where we control the pace
of the game. Well, what I mean with that is,
you know an offense that is long, it's in nine hole,
hitters working working at the same pace with the same objective.
We have to get on base more. We have to
make our opponents work more. We got to know, We've
got to be very specific to our players. There's strength
(05:38):
and weaknesses, what we do best, how we can work
together to make sure that when we struggle it's for
a short term. Dynamic offense is one that beats you
from many different ways. Not only we slug, but we
could on base, we speed taking extra base. When when
we've had that offense at dynamic off that moult that
(06:01):
everyone is working together is very is one very difficult
to beat.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
And I mean it's for what he just said right
there about setting the pace of the game. The Astros
when they were at their best last year, they did that.
Jake Myers in the nine hole was able to do
exactly what he just said. Sure, Jeremy Penia is a
little bit more aggressive in the lead off spot, but
then you add eastak peretis right there in the two
(06:27):
spot where he's liable to work as quick an at
bat as anyone, but also too liable to also work
an at bat that was about nine or ten pitches
and you look back at it and say, hmmm, that's
how we knocked that guy out in the sixth inning,
because well, that guy was able to tire him out
with a couple of really good, lengthy at bats in there.
So t one hundred percent what he said, and that's
what the Astros have been in the past. And I
(06:48):
thought something else, and maybe we'll hear him say, because
I think it's in another cut of talking about you know,
this team not only being as long a lineup as
they been in the past, but also too, I mean, just.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Being a team that just grinds you down.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
And that's something that we didn't see a ton And
another thing that he has mentioned about, you know, their
struggles where we saw a prolonged struggles plural last season
because there would be a four or five game stretch
and maybe they'd kind of jump back in because remember
when the Astros were really getting after it in seventeen,
eighteen nineteen, those years like they would have some games
(07:27):
where you're just like, h not a ton offensively tonight,
and maybe they lost three or four in a row,
and you're just kind of like, come on, guys, like
figure this out. And it was always one inning in
a game where they put up like seven or eight
runs and you're like, there they are. There's those guys.
I knew they were still there, and I knew and
I knew that they could still do that. Hadn't seen
(07:48):
as much of that because well, you don't have as
much of the firepower as you used to have, but Gordy,
you still have good hitters in this lineup.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, it's funny. I had to go back.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
That was kind of reminiscing going back to that. Remember
that series second to last weekend where the Astros were
hosting the Mariners and what they both tried to block
it out, but they both came in. Both came in
that series tied, right, same record. Yeah, and you were
facing Brian Wu on that Friday night it was Hunter
Brown versus well, Brian Wu. You're like, oh, man, hell
(08:17):
of a pitching pitching matchup. I'm just looking at the bats,
you know, first hitting, payinga flies out. Korea strikes out,
Parada strikes out. Okay, that's first inning. Second inning, Al
two Va strikes out, Zach Cole bunts grounds out to
the pitcher, Christian Walker strikes out.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Swing It's done that all year.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Third inning, DS grounds out, Sanchez flies out, Myers grounds out.
It's just like, and I'm looking in and some of
those are only three pitch, four pitch at bats. You
weren't really working the count, you weren't so like to me,
that's that epitomizes what I'll remember about the twenty twenty
five five Astros. It's like, God, they really I mean,
they had some games where the offense came alive, but
(08:57):
for the most part, that's what the offense us for
much of the year. It was just like, God, can
can somebody get on base? Can somebody do something? Like
just threatened at least a little bit? And I understand
you face some good pitching, but that, to me, epitomizes
what the plant approaches were this year.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
So I was gonna go a little bit more hot
stove with the Astros in the next segment. But something
else that Joe Aspot has said that I do think
needs to be mentioned, and that is about how the
offense will be handled this season, And I think his answer,
if you missed it, might surprise some people out there,
So we'll have that for you. As that we continue
to roll along here on a Western Wednesday, here on
(09:36):
the seven ninety morning show Sports Talk seven to ninety
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