January 17, 2026 • 9 mins
Originally aired on January 17, 2026. Doug interviews fishing guide Cliff Webb, where they discuss current fishing conditions in south Texas.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, welcome back, seven thirty eight on Sports Talk
seven nine. I'm a little late getting to this guy
I'm about to bring up, but I'm glad he's available.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Clip web. What's up man, I'm doing good. Chat.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Wind blow a little bit out of the right direction
for this time of year, has a shoulder.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's it's there. I got a little shot of cortizones.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
That life is good, all right, So what's going on
when you're fishing down there?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
It's it's just a crazy you know, I've had a
really good week. It's it's just been kind of a
roller coaster, simply because we're in a drought.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
You know, We're we're liking eighteen.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Inches of fresh water and our bass system so so
lenity levels changed and all of our patterns have changed.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We've got extremely low tide.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
And earlier in the winter we haven't had a lot
of strong north wind to clean the shorelines up the
dead grass and stuff. So things just kind of changed.
So you're having to adapt to you know, every year
is not the same. You got to play the hand
you're delt, and right now I'm playing the hand I'm delt,
you know, but I have some really good days. I
had a really good day. This last Wednesday. We are
we're going to head down to Mansfield. Mansil just been
(01:01):
on fire and we've been struggling a little bit here
and we've hearing about all this great fish in Mansfield.
So we got this big idea we're going to make
a long run. And about halfway through the trip, I said, man,
let me pull in here to the bay here and
make one little spot before we make that long run.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
And I'm so glad I did. I pull into this flat,
you know.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
And I got four really good guys and they're just
really good fisherman. And on the first wad I had
a guy catch a fifty two inch red fish that
we over fifty pounds on the tall classic Lord. And
you don't, you know, we don't have those big bulls
in our bass system like you guys doing galvels and stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
This is very unusual.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Fish fifty inches is unusual anywhere.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Fifty sixty two, Yeah, we had a fifty about ten
years ago. This was fifty two a little john. Then
the crazy thing is we're taking pictures of this fish.
It's just unbelievable, you know, I just can't believe it.
Guy flips out and catches a snook sweet fifteenth on
the fourteenth of January in the bay were.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Just unheard of.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, I go over there and I take you Yeah,
that's not took a picture of nine eighteen and stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Let it go.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Then I look over and we got this big front
coming in on Wednesday. We're trying to get out of there.
We're way south. You know, it's like two o'clock. I
looked and one of my guys just bowed up on
a big trout. Anyway, on story short Todd caught a
seven pound trout. Yeah, after the snuff, so we were
on such a road. Yeah, you know, Todd is a
lucky guy. Last year he caught up a trout that
(02:27):
was nine fifteen with me one oce under. So every
time I take this guy, he's he brings my luck.
He's kind of kidding.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
It's been good.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Just a little different pattern, you know, like our normal
January February stuff's gonna be a little different because the slenthy.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Level is so high. It's just a little different.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, that was that might have been something to kind
of help that snook stick around.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Too, Yeah, I think so, you know, it's it's crazy.
You know. This water temperature is just bouncing up and down.
And the main thing is we had just had a
super low tie down here the last few days. It's uh,
it's very crazy to see this water gone like it is.
We had that strong northwest just blew this water out
of here.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Hey, you got something, You've got summer souls just kind
of to deal with to it. That's normal. It's gonna
pull that water down too.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, it's shoveled up really low. You know, then you're
losing all the fresh water. We just hadn't had the rain.
You know, we're just we're twelve inches down this year,
and I think we're eight or nine last year. So
the combination of two if it's changed our selmity level
a lot in our base system.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So it's still really why why is it okay but
down so?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Why is somebody throwing Little John's and not top waters
down there?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
It's so funny because the top of the grass has
been so bad. Were catching on top water haven't blown,
but it's this grass situation. We love to fill top water,
but we get these things where it's just man, you
get like two feet and you're just you're grassed up,
you know. And then we did the single hook that
want the man's field knockers and stuff, and there're you know,
we're missing some fish on those, and so we're staying
with the subsurface, the corkies of soft irons and the
(03:57):
soft glasses. There's days all you can fish is the
soft plastic and you're throwing between the sheets of grass.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah there, you know, Yeah, what about I go back
to Martin Nichols that pete little lure. What about that
hook rides up?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
It works good. Yes, it's a good fish caught on it,
you know.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And then and uh, it's funny because uh, you know,
all these guys have all these different lures they bring.
Oh yeah, and we try everything down Just last week
we're back down to you know, either using a belly
wait on the hook and sliding the hook the tip
of the hook back in the worms so they get grass.
It's just the grass situation with this low tide is
(04:35):
just really amazing for this time of year.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So that's kind of what we're dealing with.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
We'd love to fish quirky's and soft dins and and
stuff like that, you know, when it's uh, when there's
no grass but sometime you just can't.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, you got to fish.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
We you can't fish with it.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And right, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I would rather I would rather shove my passion for
top waters aside and actually catch some fish without having
to pick a salad off my lure every cast.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
You know, the other day, like on Wednesday, we had
a big fish on top water. The first five feet
is a massive blow up, and then of course the
grasses up, you know, and then he got he goes
back in there with the plastic and catches the fish.
You know, So the fish was still around, but he
couldn't get to it again with the top water. Yeah,
that's but soon it just like that day you and
I had on top water. That's just you know, that's
(05:20):
incredible when that happened.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That was sick, you know, unforgettable, I think the best
way to describe that. Yeah, all right, Well, what's on
your dock at the next few weeks or you just
loaded up?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yes, sir, I'm you know, this time of year, I'm
just I'm just hammered, you know, trying to finish up
deer season. I may go sitt in the deer blind
one time, one more time this afternoon but uh, you know,
this this week coming up, this is the time of
year for me.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
This is uh, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Don't really care about fishing a whole lot in the summer,
but this time of year, I like to be out
there as much as my body will let me. And
that's the problem, Doug. At my age, the old dog
just can't get out and hunt like he used to.
You know, I had to have to fish a few
days and lay around licking wounds.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
That even caught.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Gosh, even something as relatively not as demanding as as
standing in a boat all day, but even or waiting,
were just riding around in a golf cart and hitting
golf shots. When I'm done and I drive home. By
the time I get home, it's not that long a
drive either. I just I have to stand up real
slow and let everything stretch back out. So festhetic, man.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
It's like when you see we got caught, you know,
forty five miles out and had to run against the
north wind, even with my halfway seats. We got beat up,
but it was worth it. We had a couple of
fish in the seven pounds. We had that big red
to big smoke, and it just you know, we pulled
a rabbit out of the hat. We had several five
pound trouts, so you know, we and we didn't have
to run to Mansfield. And that's what a locks so
many people down in Fort Mansfield right now. It's ridiculous
(06:48):
simply because the water. The water is just right, you know,
the right amount of slinity and stuff, so it's just
But it did take a lot of pressure off my baby.
That's kind of a good thing. I'm not seeing near
the boats I normally do. That's really good there for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Man, how many people you think drive by a fish
almost every time they.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Go, oh my god, I love this guy's run ninety
five miles an hour. How fast can you run by, say,
eight pound trout?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
You know, crazy?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah, they gonna be jumping out of the water and
you never see him.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I like the guy ere's for a while back. It's
guy burns down the shore line about eighty miles an hour.
Then about four minutes after he left, about five pop
up slicks popped up where he burned those fish. And
they and what they did, they they had a big
mount their stump and they yeah in their stomach and
they made a little and they knew litle burp up
stick and we found them just because of him.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
We walked over. We weren't shallow enough.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
We walked over there in Caffy Water and we host
him about twenty minutes after he left. But he was
going so fast he didn't you know, he never saw nothing.
He just ran right through there.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, you got to focus on the road. When you're
doing ninety little gentleman speed, you can look at the
shorelines and see what's going on.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Man, it's always good to hear from you, Cliff. I'm
glad you're still out there grinding every day. Sounds like
a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I am, buddy, I'm missing you. I hope you get
to come down and fish. I shirt your treasure. Those
days we had together.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Keep an eye out for a day that we could
do something, man, and I'll try to pop down there.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Oh that would be awesome, Yeah, I really would.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I think that'd be a lot of fun. Man, Try
to get down there on a day when we didn't
have to run away from cold and wind and fog.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
The fog is just that's one thing. I'm just getting.
It really bothers me.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
As i'm older. I just don't do the fog anymore.
That fog is there's so many accidents happening in the
fog right now. These guys are running with their stereos
on with the GPS line and they can't hear anybody
yell at you during the water. Now that's that's a problem.
Is they are to do something about you can't use
your stereo during fog or something, because I hate to
hear that booming noise. It's coming towards you know where
it's coming from, and they can't hear you yelling to
(08:48):
get out of the way. So you know, that's just
become a problem, the fog and the stereos and become
a little problem down here.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Well, in combination with the boats being able to run
that speed in a foot and a half.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Of water where you're waiting, that's exactly the problem right there.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Windy day, a little bumpy out in the middle. Let's
just run a shoreline at ninety and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
No, well, I get around what I'm doing. Now.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
If if the fog cools on me, I just go
to the real heavy heavy rocks and go sure where
nobody can run. Nobody can run over me in the rocks.
I ain't gonna I'm not gonna get to me here.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
And if they're coming that way, you'll darn sure know
they're coming because you'll hear everything breaking apart.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, that's it. You'll hear them explode.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
That's good, all right, Cliff, tell them where they can
find you, man.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Okay, all right, Doug, I'm Maderia called three six one
ninety four nine zero seven zero seven.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Really appreciate the call, Doug.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Thanks, yeah, man, anytime you know that, I'll call you
back some more.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
We'll see why, buddy. Thankksios. Good guy,
All right, welcome back, seven thirty eight on Sports Talk
seven nine. I'm a little late getting to this guy
I'm about to bring up, but I'm glad he's available.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Clip web. What's up man, I'm doing good. Chat.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Wind blow a little bit out of the right direction
for this time of year, has a shoulder.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's it's there. I got a little shot of cortizones.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
That life is good, all right, So what's going on
when you're fishing down there?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
It's it's just a crazy you know, I've had a
really good week. It's it's just been kind of a
roller coaster, simply because we're in a drought.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
You know, We're we're liking eighteen.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Inches of fresh water and our bass system so so
lenity levels changed and all of our patterns have changed.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We've got extremely low tide.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
And earlier in the winter we haven't had a lot
of strong north wind to clean the shorelines up the
dead grass and stuff. So things just kind of changed.
So you're having to adapt to you know, every year
is not the same. You got to play the hand
you're delt, and right now I'm playing the hand I'm delt,
you know, but I have some really good days. I
had a really good day. This last Wednesday. We are
we're going to head down to Mansfield. Mansil just been
(01:01):
on fire and we've been struggling a little bit here
and we've hearing about all this great fish in Mansfield.
So we got this big idea we're going to make
a long run. And about halfway through the trip, I said, man,
let me pull in here to the bay here and
make one little spot before we make that long run.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
And I'm so glad I did. I pull into this flat,
you know.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
And I got four really good guys and they're just
really good fisherman. And on the first wad I had
a guy catch a fifty two inch red fish that
we over fifty pounds on the tall classic Lord. And
you don't, you know, we don't have those big bulls
in our bass system like you guys doing galvels and stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
This is very unusual.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Fish fifty inches is unusual anywhere.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Fifty sixty two, Yeah, we had a fifty about ten
years ago. This was fifty two a little john. Then
the crazy thing is we're taking pictures of this fish.
It's just unbelievable, you know, I just can't believe it.
Guy flips out and catches a snook sweet fifteenth on
the fourteenth of January in the bay were.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Just unheard of.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, I go over there and I take you Yeah,
that's not took a picture of nine eighteen and stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Let it go.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Then I look over and we got this big front
coming in on Wednesday. We're trying to get out of there.
We're way south. You know, it's like two o'clock. I
looked and one of my guys just bowed up on
a big trout. Anyway, on story short Todd caught a
seven pound trout. Yeah, after the snuff, so we were
on such a road. Yeah, you know, Todd is a
lucky guy. Last year he caught up a trout that
(02:27):
was nine fifteen with me one oce under. So every
time I take this guy, he's he brings my luck.
He's kind of kidding.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
It's been good.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Just a little different pattern, you know, like our normal
January February stuff's gonna be a little different because the slenthy.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Level is so high. It's just a little different.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, that was that might have been something to kind
of help that snook stick around.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Too, Yeah, I think so, you know, it's it's crazy.
You know. This water temperature is just bouncing up and down.
And the main thing is we had just had a
super low tie down here the last few days. It's uh,
it's very crazy to see this water gone like it is.
We had that strong northwest just blew this water out
of here.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Hey, you got something, You've got summer souls just kind
of to deal with to it. That's normal. It's gonna
pull that water down too.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, it's shoveled up really low. You know, then you're
losing all the fresh water. We just hadn't had the rain.
You know, we're just we're twelve inches down this year,
and I think we're eight or nine last year. So
the combination of two if it's changed our selmity level
a lot in our base system.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So it's still really why why is it okay but
down so?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Why is somebody throwing Little John's and not top waters
down there?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
It's so funny because the top of the grass has
been so bad. Were catching on top water haven't blown,
but it's this grass situation. We love to fill top water,
but we get these things where it's just man, you
get like two feet and you're just you're grassed up,
you know. And then we did the single hook that
want the man's field knockers and stuff, and there're you know,
we're missing some fish on those, and so we're staying
with the subsurface, the corkies of soft irons and the
(03:57):
soft glasses. There's days all you can fish is the
soft plastic and you're throwing between the sheets of grass.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah there, you know, Yeah, what about I go back
to Martin Nichols that pete little lure. What about that
hook rides up?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
It works good. Yes, it's a good fish caught on it,
you know.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And then and uh, it's funny because uh, you know,
all these guys have all these different lures they bring.
Oh yeah, and we try everything down Just last week
we're back down to you know, either using a belly
wait on the hook and sliding the hook the tip
of the hook back in the worms so they get grass.
It's just the grass situation with this low tide is
(04:35):
just really amazing for this time of year.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So that's kind of what we're dealing with.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
We'd love to fish quirky's and soft dins and and
stuff like that, you know, when it's uh, when there's
no grass but sometime you just can't.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, you got to fish.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
We you can't fish with it.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And right, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I would rather I would rather shove my passion for
top waters aside and actually catch some fish without having
to pick a salad off my lure every cast.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
You know, the other day, like on Wednesday, we had
a big fish on top water. The first five feet
is a massive blow up, and then of course the
grasses up, you know, and then he got he goes
back in there with the plastic and catches the fish.
You know, So the fish was still around, but he
couldn't get to it again with the top water. Yeah,
that's but soon it just like that day you and
I had on top water. That's just you know, that's
(05:20):
incredible when that happened.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That was sick, you know, unforgettable, I think the best
way to describe that. Yeah, all right, Well, what's on
your dock at the next few weeks or you just
loaded up?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yes, sir, I'm you know, this time of year, I'm
just I'm just hammered, you know, trying to finish up
deer season. I may go sitt in the deer blind
one time, one more time this afternoon but uh, you know,
this this week coming up, this is the time of
year for me.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
This is uh, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Don't really care about fishing a whole lot in the summer,
but this time of year, I like to be out
there as much as my body will let me. And
that's the problem, Doug. At my age, the old dog
just can't get out and hunt like he used to.
You know, I had to have to fish a few
days and lay around licking wounds.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
That even caught.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Gosh, even something as relatively not as demanding as as
standing in a boat all day, but even or waiting,
were just riding around in a golf cart and hitting
golf shots. When I'm done and I drive home. By
the time I get home, it's not that long a
drive either. I just I have to stand up real
slow and let everything stretch back out. So festhetic, man.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
It's like when you see we got caught, you know,
forty five miles out and had to run against the
north wind, even with my halfway seats. We got beat up,
but it was worth it. We had a couple of
fish in the seven pounds. We had that big red
to big smoke, and it just you know, we pulled
a rabbit out of the hat. We had several five
pound trouts, so you know, we and we didn't have
to run to Mansfield. And that's what a locks so
many people down in Fort Mansfield right now. It's ridiculous
(06:48):
simply because the water. The water is just right, you know,
the right amount of slinity and stuff, so it's just
But it did take a lot of pressure off my baby.
That's kind of a good thing. I'm not seeing near
the boats I normally do. That's really good there for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Man, how many people you think drive by a fish
almost every time they.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Go, oh my god, I love this guy's run ninety
five miles an hour. How fast can you run by, say,
eight pound trout?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
You know, crazy?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah, they gonna be jumping out of the water and
you never see him.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I like the guy ere's for a while back. It's
guy burns down the shore line about eighty miles an hour.
Then about four minutes after he left, about five pop
up slicks popped up where he burned those fish. And
they and what they did, they they had a big
mount their stump and they yeah in their stomach and
they made a little and they knew litle burp up
stick and we found them just because of him.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
We walked over. We weren't shallow enough.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
We walked over there in Caffy Water and we host
him about twenty minutes after he left. But he was
going so fast he didn't you know, he never saw nothing.
He just ran right through there.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, you got to focus on the road. When you're
doing ninety little gentleman speed, you can look at the
shorelines and see what's going on.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Man, it's always good to hear from you, Cliff. I'm
glad you're still out there grinding every day. Sounds like
a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I am, buddy, I'm missing you. I hope you get
to come down and fish. I shirt your treasure. Those
days we had together.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Keep an eye out for a day that we could
do something, man, and I'll try to pop down there.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Oh that would be awesome, Yeah, I really would.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I think that'd be a lot of fun. Man, Try
to get down there on a day when we didn't
have to run away from cold and wind and fog.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
The fog is just that's one thing. I'm just getting.
It really bothers me.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
As i'm older. I just don't do the fog anymore.
That fog is there's so many accidents happening in the
fog right now. These guys are running with their stereos
on with the GPS line and they can't hear anybody
yell at you during the water. Now that's that's a problem.
Is they are to do something about you can't use
your stereo during fog or something, because I hate to
hear that booming noise. It's coming towards you know where
it's coming from, and they can't hear you yelling to
(08:48):
get out of the way. So you know, that's just
become a problem, the fog and the stereos and become
a little problem down here.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Well, in combination with the boats being able to run
that speed in a foot and a half.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Of water where you're waiting, that's exactly the problem right there.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Windy day, a little bumpy out in the middle. Let's
just run a shoreline at ninety and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
No, well, I get around what I'm doing. Now.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
If if the fog cools on me, I just go
to the real heavy heavy rocks and go sure where
nobody can run. Nobody can run over me in the rocks.
I ain't gonna I'm not gonna get to me here.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
And if they're coming that way, you'll darn sure know
they're coming because you'll hear everything breaking apart.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, that's it. You'll hear them explode.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
That's good, all right, Cliff, tell them where they can
find you, man.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Okay, all right, Doug, I'm Maderia called three six one
ninety four nine zero seven zero seven.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Really appreciate the call, Doug.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Thanks, yeah, man, anytime you know that, I'll call you
back some more.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
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