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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's Doug Pike.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, Sunday edition of the program starts. Now.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Thank you all for joining us, whoever you are, wherever
you are, uh seven seven ninety, email me Dougpike at
iHeartMedia dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Let's talk to Brandon Shall.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
We want to say Brandon, good morning, mister broy Carry.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm good man, I'm fine.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I got to go make a pot of coffee at
first break though there's none in there.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Now, I understand.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I got to give me some eye opener too here
in a minute, Yes, sir, yes, sir. No, I wanted
to touch on a base, uh you know, and I
don't want This has to do with outdoors, and it
also has to do with political If well, you want
to keep the state of Texas the way it is,
Let's just look at New York. Let's just look at
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New York. And it's an example. Everybody in Texas says, well,
it's not going to happen here. If you don't step
up to the plate and swing the bat and vote,
then it's possible that that can happen. And then there's
a lot of people in the United States would like
to see the state of Texas fall.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
We are.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
God has had our sovereign hand on us, even from
the Alamo. If we don't fight, then we're gonna lose.
And that's the only thing I can say. We have
great resources. I mean, we have been greatly blessed, and
there's a lot of people that died for this state.
And one thing I want to say.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Okay, thank you, I appreciate that. One thing I will
say to kind of tie some of this together is
that I've I've interacted with a lot of people who are.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Not who don't think the same way I do.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I have and politically I'm talking about and almost each
of them. I rarely run into somebody who says I'm
on the left and I love the outdoors.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I don't. I just don't hear that.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I don't hear that from that side, and I don't
see that side taking a stance in favor of taking
care of wildlife and fisheries.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It hasn't been my experience.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Now, if there's somebody out there who is as completely
as left as left can be and absolutely loves hunting
and fishing and hiking and birding and doing all that stuff,
I'd love to talk to them, because we have common ground.
We can start from to have a conversation, that would
be great, but I just don't seem to run into
those folks much. So, yeah, you're right, We've all got
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to pay close attention to not just how somebody who's
running for office wants to run that office, but what
they think about the outdoors, what they think about our fisheries,
and what they think about our wildlife, whether that matters
to them, because if they're not outdoors people, and this
is what's happened in a lot of the North now.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Granted, there are tons of deer.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Hunters all the way up through Canada, there are tons
of bird hunters, there's tons of fishermen. They're all up there,
but they're becoming outnumbered. And where they become out out numbered,
the resource is available to people who take care of
fisheries and who take care of wildlife kind of diminish
because those people aren't buying hunting and fishing licenses. They
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don't have a direct stake in the game, so they
don't really care whether a warehouse gets built on a
place that wants used to be a great waterfowl roost.
They don't care that a subdivision goes up where you
and your uncle used to hunt deer when you were
a kid. It just doesn't matter to them. And that's
that's a frightening thing. That's how we're going to lose
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wildlife and fisheries as much as anything else.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Well, not only that, I mean, we just need to
start raising a generation where it's not it's just hard
to explain, but I mean, it's I just don't want
things to wind up. There's a sleeping giant out there,
and there's a lot of people that would love to
see the state of Texas fall, of course, I mean,
and we are we are, and if we don't, it's
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outdoors men, Texas ranchers. What we know when you're born
in the country that I mean, there's certain morals and
values that go with all that. Sure, and if we
don't stand up for it, we're gonna lose. Well.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
The key component to being brought up what you and
I would call right is just is being respectful of
other people. It's being mindful that the world is not
revolving around you, that you are part of something. You're
a tiny little cog in a big, big wheel. And
that's what people who raise their kids in the outdoors.
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There's been signed. There is a lot of science on this,
and I studied it for a while and read a
lot of a lot of papers.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
And whatnot on it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Kids who get brought up in the outdoors tend to
be better grounded, They tend to be more successful in life.
They actually score higher on standardized tests than kids who
don't grow up in the outdoors.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And that's reason enough right.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
There, their educations, because if they're not gonna be smart
enough to run the world, they're not going to be
able to run.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
The world, no, sir, And I mean I totally agree.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I have no shame about where I was born and
raising how I was treated.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
I mean, it just made me and the.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Man I am today, And that's the way we got.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
To treat this.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
We need to raise men to be men.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
That's so.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Think back to when you were growing up, and how
many times, probably if you were like me and my
little running buddies on the little street in Sharptown where
I grew up, how many times did somebody else's mother
get on you and your whole bunch of buddies for
doing something wrong and just really chew you out until
you understood that that doesn't happen anymore. You know, everybody's
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scared to correct anybody else's child in a store or
anywhere else, and that's correct.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, and put their put their put their backsides on
the front end of a church to you.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, all right, Brandon, Well hang in there. I think
we're gonna make it, man, I really do. I'm I'm
being very encouraging stuff. And as soon as I've gotten
something really concrete that I that I can back up
what I believe I'm seeing happening with kids in the outdoors,
I'll I'll let I'll share it with everybody, But until
I can really verify.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
It, I don't want to say anything. All right, appreciate me.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, he's he's climbed up on top of a big
old soap box that I hear more and more people
talking about. And the good news is that more and
more people are talking about it. There was quite a
time in this country where it was very hard to
share your views about what we think is right and
what we think is wrong as opposed to what other
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people might feel the same way about, because we were
scared to open our mouths.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And I'm I'm not so scared anymore. I'm really not.
I was for a time. Boy, I better think about this.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
And and I'm I'm not trying to offend anybody, Like
I said. I if there's someone out there who I
don't care who you vote for, as long as you vote,
I really really don't. Now, if you're voting for somebody
that I don't like, and you'll listen to me for
one minute, I'll tell you why I think that other
person's better. And if you want to take that same
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minute to explain to me why you like the person
you're voting for, I'll listen to you.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I really will.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I'll listen patiently and intently because you may know something
I don't know. That's how I feel about that. It's
not who you vote for that matters as long as
you vote, because then we have representation of everybody.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
But if you sit.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Back on the fence and just say I'm not even
gonna bother voting, it doesn't matter, well, then you get
what you get.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So just keep an eye on everything.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I really do think I think things generally are going
in a better direction, especially for the outdoors. That's what
I'm focused on right now, not everything else in the world,
but for the United States, and for Texas especially, outdoor
traditions are making a come back. I strongly believe that,
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and a lot of it is because there are so
many people moving here who are leaving where they came from,
because they do like the shooting sports, they do like fishing,
they do like hunting, they do like all the things
in the outdoors that in some states you're kind of
frowned upon for doing that.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
So and there are.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Left leaning states that have great hunting opportunity and they
take advantage of it that nobody I don't know anywhere
really where politics has gotten in the way of being
outdoors directly. Now, there's efforts being made, for example, the
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taking away of the use of lead shot and lead bullets.
Even in some cases out in California that was a
big deal for a while.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You had to change over to copper.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
There was something else they were trying to use to
get lead out of everything out there. They have some
oddball rules from time to time that kind of come
and go.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
They go through the.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Court systems, and I don't know what's in place out
there right now. I really don't want to find out.
I'm perfectly happy right here in the state of Texas
where I can shoot my favorite gun at my favorite
animal because I've got the license that lets me do that.
Or I can go to the coast and fish my
favorite spot and try to catch a big fish with
whatever tackle I want to use. You know, it's really
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to the Parks and Wildlife Department's credit that we have
the opportunity that we do have, because in the past
twenty twenty five years, maybe a lot of people have
moved into this region who don't have the same respect
for our resources as we do as Native Texans. And
I've witnessed just blatant violations, and I've called them in
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to Texas to the Operation Game THEEF line more than
once when I see stuff going on that I know
is wrong, and we've all got to do that to
keep it from happening. If you see a bunch of
people keeping undersized flounder right now, every one of those flounder,
they call it, whether it's undersized or not, it's not
supposed to be there. We have a six month or
a six week moratorium on flounder retention. But I guarantee
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you there are still people down there on that coast
who when they catch a flounder. They look both ways
and throw it in the icebox that we have to
manage because there aren't enough wardens to watch all that stuff.
They need our help just as much as we need
their help. And I'll talk about game. I talked about
game wardens yesterday too. Oh my gosh, look at how
late I am, Frankie, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
All right, let's take a break. I'll take a deep breath.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
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I'm going to be in much better shape when we
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Speaker 3 (11:20):
Welcome back, Doug Plakeshawn's four saut seventy ninety.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
We're going to ten this morning.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Get a lot of stuff done, and uh, all kinds
of new things coming into this world of ours. All
over this country of ours, a lot of change is
going on, a lot of changes. Stay focused on the outdoors,
stay focused on doing what you love to do outdoors,
and we'll all come out better.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I think.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
For that, Let's go talk to David. Shall we let
me click that button I got him. Hey David, what's up?
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Man?
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Yeah, Doug, I heard your comments earlier and I wanted
to give you some words of encouragement to hear based
on what I've seen preaching hunter education. I've said about
forty five people this fall, and what surprised me. And
I think I should preface this by saying, if you
think about when we first started hunting, Doug, there was
no Internet, there was no inter you know, and if
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you hunted, you probably did it because you knew somebody
who hunted.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Absolutely. Oh, you almost had to know somebody.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
There was no place to start unless you had somebody
you could talk to about it.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
Well, what I'm seeing in these hundred education classes. I
would say half of the people that I certified were
first time hunters. Many of them were kids, and some
of them were so young. I thought, man, that's kind
of young to get started. I mean talking about kids
maybe nine ten years old, but they had their parents
with them. They were and many of these were not
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They were minorities, some were Asian, And I have to
think that I think you've kind of touched on this before.
Parents are now wanting their kids to get outside more.
And I think these parents are also because of the
recent sources or what's available online. They're saying, yeah, let
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let's try this. I really want to get my kids
outside and try this, you know, because we know it
can provide a great source of nutrition. Yeah, I think,
and I think I think that's what's happening is there's
a uh probably more in the urban areas, but people
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are parents are saying, you know, hunting and fishing offers
a great opportunity to get my kids outside and to
uh catch a fish or shoot an animal and bring
something home and put it on the table. I really
was encouraged by it.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, I would imagine you were.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
And it just makes me all the more confident that
this is all going to turn around, because it doesn't
matter whether somebody's from the herbs or the burbs or whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
If if some somehow.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
They have been uh, I don't want to say awakened,
because it's all there.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
You just kind of kind of go knock on the
door and open it.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
But if they've seen on social media somebody out hunting
or fishing and thought, you know, that guy's bringing home
about one hundred pounds of meat that in the grocery
store would cost me three hundred dollars or five hundred dollars.
And if I can just sign up for one of
these state park management hunts and go out and shoot
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a dough or two, I can bring home a lot
of meat for the family. The kids can get out
and see all kinds of animals walking around in the woods,
and they can get involved in the outdoors, and one
thing will lead to another, and hopefully we're gonna have
another generation where there are at least as many, if
not more kids into the outdoors than not.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Because we got to.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Get them off the phones, we got to get them
off the video games, all of that stuff, because that's
just crushing them mentally and emotionally, and it has no value.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Really at all. Yeah, the price of beef isn't that free?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
No kidding, amen, that there are free hunts out there.
There really are. Almost all of the state parks have
because our state has so many deer.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
They're just they're kind of everywhere.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
And or you can use what faux pro has been
using and and get one of those public lands permits
and then find your find yourself a place to go
hunt deer on public land or ducks or go fish whatever.
But just get them outdoors and they'll they will like it.
I know they will.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Yeah, thank you for.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Taking my call.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Thank you, man, appreciate David. I tend to get very
long winded.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I get I get up on this soapbox, Frankie, and
I just can't get down, man, Because I would conservatively
say that in in my adult life, I've probably taught,
or not not necessarily taught, but I've probably enabled at
least one hundred kids and and probably more. Really, but
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and about that many adults, just grown up men and women.
I helped them to catch their first fish. Now was
their first fish some sort of record breaker, no, nothing
significant other than it was their first fish. And I
can't really tell you how many of them ever, if ever,
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went back and went fishing again. Now I have heard
from a lot of them who did they they've become
involved in it. I had one guy jokingly get all
upset with me because he was now spending all this
money I'd gotten him into fly fishing, and he said, man,
you told me there was some inexpensive stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
But as soon as I.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Started looking at that and the guy started telling me
what the difference was, I wound up spending like a
month's salary on fly fishing gear.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Said, dude, that's on you. That's not on me.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I showed you how to do it, and I told
you you could. You could go find used gear to
get you started, that wouldn't cost you much. But he
just bit it, hook line and sinker. He is so
hooked on fly fishing to this day. I think that
guy's probably out there with the latest and the greatest,
and the money wasn't bothering him at all. He's got
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enough to take care of anything and everything he's ever
wanted in life. But that fly fishing thing, that's that's
a different kind. That's a new level of fishing, and
it's fantastic. I absolutely love it. I don't go as
much as I used to, honestly, and I wish. I'm
trying to find a way to make a little bit
more time to do all that I truly am, and
I'm gonna do that starting in twenty twenty six. This
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is my new quarter century we're coming into and I
intend to use it to its fullest.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Hey, Dave, what's up.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
On growing up with your parents and your grandfathers and
your ancestors. Man, you know, all me and all my
brothers and everybody, my nieces and nephew and everybody, they've
all ended up having successful careers doing something. Yeah, you know,
and uh and I think it's all in the in
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the heart you know of Uh. You know, Hey, you're
dedicated to do what you're going to do. Teach you
how to do this and stay true to what you
need to do. Oh and like, uh, I never was
this cowt, but always be prepared to meet the challenge.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Yeah, you know, we all face challenges every day. We
just got to you got to rise up and take
care of bitness.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
I tell my wife, hold on, I got a method
to my madness over.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Here's all right?
Speaker 8 (18:30):
Yeah, Well, I mean, she want me to do this,
do that and everything else. And I'm like, oh, okay,
all right, Dare I appreciate you right here?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
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Speaker 2 (18:56):
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Speaker 3 (18:59):
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Speaker 3 (19:42):
A couple of phone calls, Well I had two, then
I got one.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Now it's faux pro, faux pro. What's up?
Speaker 4 (19:50):
What is up?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Door?
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Glass took a buddy out that I have a buddy
of mine that I worked at Academy back in my
late teen early twinties, back when Academy actually still sold
army here.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, like that only cow.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
And that's when I met this feller. We have a
disition for several years. So he was mad, I've been
wanting to go to that Gatings lake you go through
all the time, Okay, I said, because I can beat
you there at nine o'clock. I said, I'm gonna get
there at seven and try to figure try to figure
it out. By nine o'clock. He cause, I go picking
up the gated nine of Fox and we go out there.
Kind of had something figured out on the fish shallow
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early it was like the dead seat. The grass is
kind of died back getting brown. So I vacated the
shallows and and went out and turned the cheaterbox on,
and uh turned the spotlight on, and uh these fish,
you know, your typical meadow bay dirt, dirt based stuff
like that just follow they rush it and stopped rushing. Wow,
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couldn't figure it out. So we finally went to a
tiny crank bait that one of my fossors based this
and custom base. Say to Tony, he uh, I started
throwing that little crank bait out. It only died about
three to four feet, and these fish were coming up
with fifteen feet like myhing and just crushing them wild.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I need some That's what I'm looking for.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Something that'll just go down like three or four feet
I got.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Yeah, I appreciate it, but U but he he's a
power fishing and whole lot of good fishing. He actually
won the big bass flash last year on the Raven
Road Dodger. Well, he won the whole thing at eleven
eleven plus counter nice. But I told him, I said
on this lake that the drop shot is keen and
it's got to be a morning glory color in the roboworm.
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Oh wow, man, I don't even I don't even own that,
but I got one rigged up because I've never done it.
So I got about there with the spot of the
fishted a few fish on the bottom of twenty fifteen
the water and I showed him. I showed him a
line with my rocket and cast here a boat and
a half boat leaked out. So he made a perfect cast.
We watched the drop shot go down, go down, and
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a couple of fish follow it. Now dress the bottom.
Just hold your line tight, don't move your way. Just
typed up your line. Yeah, and just shake it real
and about a too powder it over and grabbed it.
I said, down, set the hook, and he set the hook.
You look at me, he goes, this is blank. That's
all it is, dude. And he went to do that
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for about thirty forty five minutes. Great and he goes,
he goes, He goes, I got a buy center rod.
Now I guess you do.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, a convert, another convert.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Another, another corruption. But uh, we had a great time.
But on the uh uh on public hunting, just to
recap a little bit of that. Sure, make sure if
you're listeners or whoever goes out and buys this public
hunting permit, uh, download the app and you could search
by species. Oh well, it'll just show you the places
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you can punt. That what I don't want people to
get into the idea because the place is me and
my nephew's got it. Like you said, had the fishing
on in the pond. Well, I know these places are
also gonna hold up. There's going to be big deer.
But these places are very sic that you could only
shoot dug So make sure when you're on that property
what you can shoot. And they all have a big
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bulletin board. You scan it with the scan code that
you're there, you get out, it'll ask you what you'll
walk you all through it automatically. But there's a bulletin border.
And all these properties are pretty well tagged on the border,
so you get their border, they'll be there'll be a
yellow sign tech.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I like that idea of.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
You know, just because just because there are a big
deer on a place doesn't mean it might not be
fun to go hunt ducks on the place and just
let the big deer come around, take a picture of
them and plant that in your memory bank, and kill
a few ducks and get out of there. Just access
to the land is is that's the value right there
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is the access to all this land that in most states,
especially up in the mountains the western States, they have
tons of public land and we don't as based on
our size. We don't only what maybe five or six
percent of our land is public, but because we're so big,
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it is. You know, there are millions of acres of
public lands, some accessible, some not. But if you take
advantage like you and your nephew did, and spend a
little time scouting around and put the effort into scouting
exactly places where you can do what you want to
go do, it can probably be a little more successful
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than a lot of people think. And there's probably a
couple of guys in this audience right now scratching their
heads going shut up, you know, quit telling people how
good this is, because then it's going to get crowded.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
But it should be crowded.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Yeah, we can all four dearly if you just take
the west side of Lake Livingston, Yeah, all the way
over through Lake Conroe, you have one hundred and forty
six thousand acres of the fans Houston. Yeah, you could
dun deer hunt haul Punt duff Hunt and you just
got to know what section to be. But all that's
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available in it right here, you know, I'm you know,
not even an hour from Houston. You got one hundred
twenty six thousand acre deer leaves us leave whatever.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
It just takes It takes research, and it takes work,
and it takes boots on the ground to get out
there and get far enough off the beaten path that
you're not competing with thirty or forty guys who just
can't walk more than a quarter mile. Yeah, get up
in there and mix it up with nature, and I
guarantee you there's stuff. There's little ponds. When I got
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to make that ride in the Goodyear blimp one hundred
years ago when the Shell Houston Open was coming to
town at the Woodlands, that's how long ago it was.
I'm up in the air and we're puttering around, like say,
between the Woodlands. We we went east for a way,
as I was the only guy who showed up for
a media ride in the blimp, and we spent about
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ten minutes over the golf course. I took a few pictures.
I said, man, can we just kind of go somewhere else?
He goes, we can go wherever you want.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
We went. You got an hour, man, we can go
wherever you want. So well, let's go east.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
So we just go off into nowhere basically, and I'm
looking down on woods and there are so many ponds
up in those woods forest. I just, holy cow, where
is all this water coming from?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
So many places?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I wanted to go, and I was learning, you know,
the different stuff that's on top of the water. Some
of the water looks really clear, some of it looks bad.
And but the bottom line was there were a million
little stock tanks and.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Part of that land, and you know, and and wrap
it up, just you know, and be safe. I got
a buddy of mine lives right on the across the
street forth and he had two bullet holes in his garage.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Yeah, you gotta be careful being aware where your home is. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
don't go sneaking through there too bad. You know, you
were walking through the forest, got the water to be seen,
the little noise like you know, let people know you there.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Amen to that, my friend. Ors.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Thanks man, always a pleasure, all right, man, audios, all right,
thank you for us.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
That's good stuff. Good up.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Hey, he scattered it out, he really did. He knows
what he's doing up in there, and that's something I
may tackle at some point. I might take a week
off and just go scout some public land just to
see what it's like and see what's out there. Really,
I got a hunch though, Like I said a minute ago,
a lot of people are probably thinking, shut up, Doug,
because we we figured this out. We know how to
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go find the good parts of these places because we're
using Google Earth, We're using We're getting out and scouting
these places in advance.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
And ma'am, what how much fun would that be?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Realize you have access to close to a million acres
and they're not all going to be super productive. You're
not gonna limit out every time you go to one
of these, but most people don't. The average deer hunter
doesn't limit out every time they every season. Berry Hill
Baja grilled down in sugar Land, right there at Sugar
Creek Boulevard and fifty nine on the inbound side. Berryhill's
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been in sugar Land about as long as I have,
thirty something years, and they turn out some of the
best Mexican food you'll ever put in your mouth. Outstanding
fish tacos, outstanding seafood enchiladas.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I love it all at Berryhill.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
You will too, dining inside and out in a very
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dot Com, Sports Talk seven ninety The Dugpike Show, Thank
you for listening, Ah weighing in, weighing in, weighing in.
It was a good email here from Mojo. Hang on,
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let me see if I can scroll back up to
it there. It is right there, a very good point.
Time spent outdoors requires common sense and problem solving. Else
you don't live very long out there. Yeah, that's very true.
The more you get into the outdoors. For me, anyway,
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it was kind of addictive. It's almost like a drug.
You find yourself walking into the woods, or maybe you
just go to a state park and you walk down
some trails and you think, wow, that's really cool. But
I wonder what's over there because everybody's seeing what's along
this trail. Everybody know everybody who's ever walked this trail
already knows it. But what if I get off the trail?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Can I do that in the park?
Speaker 9 (29:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
You can probably do that in the park, or you
can just go to a bigger state park or a
bigger wildlife management area and just walk wherever you want.
You have access to a million acres of public ground
in Texas, more than a million acres, and the more
you get into the outdoors, the more enjoyable and exciting
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and challenging it is to go a little farther and
do a little more. I've been walking on big ranches
sometimes and just told, okay, just as long as you
keep walking towards the sun where we're dropping you off,
Just keep walking toward the sun all day long, and
you'll end up back here at the camp house. Like, Yeah,
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it's pretty scary. I'm not so sure I might make it.
What if I'm walking slowly or to get off course
a little bit, Nah, it'll be fine, you'll be back.
And so far I've always made it back to where
I started. But it is it's a little bit intimidating too,
And you truly do realize when somebody drops you off
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in the middle of nowhere that you're part of something
way bigger. I've never felt that feeling as much so
as when I did. I was doing a photo shoot
up in Colorado, and I don't remember what resort we
were at, but I was going to get photographs of
these guys coming to skiers. There were about half a
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dozen skiers who were gonna be coming down a mountain
side that was probably a mile away from me, maybe
a little bit more, maybe a mile and a half
something like that. And I had the lenses and cameras
and everything I needed to get the shots. And so
I said, how are we getting up there helicopter? I said, oh,
that's very cool. I'm digging that. That's fine.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
He said.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna take you up
and i'm gonna drop you off, and then i'm gonna
come back and pick up the skiers and you'll see this.
We'll be back in about ten minutes or so, and
then you know, get ready because that's when it's gonna happen.
So we pull up to the edge of the mountain
and he says, hold on, I gotta find you a
spot to get out.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
And it all I can see is snow. That's all
it is.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
And in my head from down here, I'm thinking, okay, yeah,
I'll just step out and it'll be crunchy and then
I'll step on ground. He goes, I'm gonna punch a
skid in a couple of times to make sure that
I put you out on a rock, because otherwise this
snow up here can be six eight ten feet deep
like Ooh, I don't want to step into six, six
or eight or ten feet of powder. That's not safe, sounded.
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So we finally find a place where he's comfortable putting
me out. And before he puts me out, he puts
this big device around my neck. I said, what's that transponder?
So so you can find me if I'm lost or
something like that and you have to rescue me. He goes, no,
it'll make it easier to find the body. Oh huh,
that's comforting as well. So any event, I gathered my courage,
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I got out of that helicopter. I'm standing on a
rock and I don't dare touch a foot in any
other direction because if I do, I might fall off
the mountain. And this guy flies up and back over
the top of that ridge, and it was toomb.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Quiet, no sound. I can't see anything, but I'm above
the tree line. At this point. It's just snow, me
and snow.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
And to get back to a tree, if I needed
one for any reason at all, would have been virtually impossible.
It just probably a thousand vertical feet and no way
to get there. I have no idea what's under my
next step, and I just had to wait and trust,
and wait and trust and wait and trust, and sure enough,
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over that valley drop the skiers off. They come firing down,
and I got some really cool pictures of these little
sque curves being made as they came down that untouched
mountain side. And then of course he picks them up
first and takes them back. It calls me on the radio.
I had a radio, but I didn't use it because
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I didn't want to use it. I wanted to experience this.
So he calls me on the rago. I'm gonna drop
these guys off first.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
They're used to this. I'm not what are my chances
I'll be back? And he picks up the skiers.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
They disappear again, and it was probably another because they
had to unload gear and stuff when they got back.
Probably another twenty minutes that I was absolutely alone on
the side of that mountain, and it really boy, you
talk about think about things, It'll make your mind wander
in all sorts of directions, mostly good. In the end,
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you've you've become a better person for this tiny little
taste of solitude. Uh and and forced solitude. There was
nothing I could do about being alone on that mountaintop,
not one single thing, And in the end I came
out very comforted by it that I was able to
just stand there and not freak out. A lot of
people might have, but I'd been out there enough that
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I trusted. I knew to trust the pilot, and that's
kind of what got me there. He's willing to drop
me off and come back and get me. I'm I'm
willing to let him try.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
And he did so.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Here I am seven one three two one two five
seven ninety email on me Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com.
Rudy and I exchange a couple of emails in which
he poses the thought that it's bull reds, which have
pretty much taken up residency in the Galveson Bay system
in the past years, thanks, I guess, in large part
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to the hatchery program that's been so successful. We're just
we're just loaded up, absolutely loaded up with bull reds
and our bas systems up and down this state.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
And there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
And if there's so much food, Rudy contends and a
couple of guides that it's the bullreds that are responsible.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
For eating up so many trout.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
But I'm having a hard time with that because the
bull reds wouldn't be specific in the size of trout
they ate, and so and they if they did have
the option, I would imagine they would just plow through
schools of smaller trout easier to catch trout and in
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greater abundance trout than the schools of the larger fish,
which would probably be a little more spread out and
a little more capable of eluding a predator. There's no
doubt in my mind that redfish are eating trout period.
In the story, they're eating trout. But to think that
they're eating only keepers and letting the little ones go,
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I can't rationalize that. I can't put science to that
and make it work. It just I can't get there.
And it's no knock on Rudy in his theory. And
it's the same thing James and Blaine have talked about
that quite a bit. All the redfish in that bay
system of ours up here are clearly having impact.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
But the conversation I had.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Earlier with I can't remember who it was who called
talking about talking to that seafood place owner, it said,
the shrimpers are only having to make one drag to
get their limit every day. So it's not that we
don't have any shrimp in the bay. It's not that
we don't have any mullet in the bay. It's not
that we don't have any small trout and big trout
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somewhere in that bay system. Those keepers are just there
m I a out. It's it's possible since we did
put the slot in that the pressure on those slot fish.
Because there are a lot of boats in the base,
there's no question fewer and fewer, It's quite possible that
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those keepers a lot there was. There were still a
lot of people catching and keeping trout all through the
spring and summer. Long after that that limit went into effect.
I made a trip down to Galveston Bay. Actually didn't.
I didn't throw any croker. I think I may have
threw thrown a croker once on the boat. The other
two guys were throwing crokers and we caught our trout.
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They wanted to bring some home, and that was fine
with me. They stayed within the limit. But I wonder
if fishing pressure might have anything to do with that,
because when you pressure only one class of fish in
that fairly tight slot, it's probably going to have an impact.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Uh, And that's I'm spitballing here.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
I'm not I don't have anything to back that up,
and I don't think that the Parks and Wildlife Department
would have set up up that slot knowingly if there
was any risk to damaging that population. I don't know
why these fourteen and a half inch fish are dominating
the size class right now, but I suspect that their
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presence in a year from now will only.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
It can't do anything but get better. Those fish.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
They're not gonna shrink, and if there's food in the
bay form, they're not going to stay the same size either.
They've got to grow, and maybe maybe it'll take a
little bit longer to get that real abundance of keeper
sized fish. Maybe there was a glitch in the number
of keeper sized fish we had to start the new limit.
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There's just a whole lot of questions and not a
lot of answers because it's only it's been less than
a year since we kicked this off. So let's just
kind of adopt a wait and see, And my gut
says that we're going to see next summer all these
fourteen and a halfs are going to be certainly longer
and inn keeper size, and that will take pressure off
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a whole lot of this fishery.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
And I want to go to South Texas this summer
or this winter.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
That's I got to put that on my list three
or four times to me even make it happen once, uh,
and find a way to change my schedule just a
teeny bit.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
I have a theory or a proposition.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
I'm going to pose to management here about something I
might be able to do to get a little bit
more time black Horse Golf Club. If you can find
your way to two ninety and then to Fry Road
and then a little south on Fry Road, and you
like golf, that's going to put you right at the gate.
Two great golf courses, the North Course which is still
daily fee, and a great track in the South Course,
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which went private this year and has membership options up
to and including access also to Blackhawk Country Club and
Golf Club of Houston. Black Horse Golf Club dot Com
is a website black Horse goolf Club dot com.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Now here's Doug.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Pike Sports Talk seven to ninety second and final hour
of today's program starts now, and I'm gonna lead it
off with a call to my good friend Tommy O'Brien
out there at Blackhawk Country Club who was honored by
Golf magazine and it's in the magazine. We can really
talk about it now as a teacher to watch in
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this great country of ours.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
How's that feel, Tommy?
Speaker 10 (40:30):
Uh, it's it's pretty unbelievable, you know, to get recognized
by a lot of your peers and this and that
just just speaks volumes, you know.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
I mean it's just humbling. Doug, very believe to be
on the list.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
You know, how long you've worked for this. I can
believe it.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
I don't any problem believe in it at all. I'll
do I'll believe it twice so you don't have to.
Speaker 10 (40:51):
Yeah, I'm trying to believe you being on top of
the mountain by yourself.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Did I hear that correctly? Oh?
Speaker 6 (40:57):
Man?
Speaker 3 (40:57):
It was so fine, dropped off of a helica, you know,
and the he had to punch a skin in twice
to find a rock to drop me off on. And
I was standing in waist deep snow. Yeah, so that
was that was pretty sporty. Couldn't move, That's okay, let's talk.
Speaker 10 (41:15):
About Yeah, there's no excuse on number two, then you
should not hear that hole anymore.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
If you can do that, that's a good point. I'm
just I'm just going to air it out and go
for it.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
So where to talk about the earliest part of your
golf instruction. Not not your little kids swinging a plastic club,
but when did you first feel.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Like, you know, I want to teach this game?
Speaker 10 (41:38):
Honestly, in college when I was a walk on over
at Sam Houston State, my teammates were very good and
they would beat my brains out when they were playing
golf together.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
But for some reason, they would ask me for help
because they knew.
Speaker 10 (41:53):
I was a student of the game and I enjoyed
that and whatnot. And one of my teammates, Brandon Turner,
would work with me a little bit. Bran Kishnick and
Brandon and Brandt both won Division one events. Wow, And
they said that I helped him, And I don't know
how much I believe that or not, but definitely made
suggestions and I I think it helped him. As a
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kid growing up, I grew up watching Jim Murphy teach
at my home clubs, the country club, and he always
looked like he was just having a great time. Teaching,
talking golf and literally, as he says, making people stay.
Speaker 6 (42:27):
And that's just kind of the direction I went.
Speaker 10 (42:29):
I didn't have the greatest of playing careers, but I
did seem to connect to good players on the teaching level,
and that's just kind of where it went. And it's
just been kind of a divine experience ever since. With
who the Good Lord is put in front of me.
Speaker 6 (42:46):
Teacher was to experience and to learn from.
Speaker 10 (42:49):
And that's that's the big key with with teaching is
you know, having good people, good good guys that have
no way more than you saying, hey, come out, watch
and come out and learn and ask questions and and
so on and so forth. I started out working for
Jim Murphy and the Golf Visit and he wouldn't let
me teach for six months because you got to watch
me for six months so that you put out a
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good product, because you once your once you're out and
you've done something bad, then the words out on you.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
There.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
It's kind of in a nutshell how it started.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Now.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Yeah, bad teachers don't stay teachers very long, do.
Speaker 6 (43:22):
They They don't. Yeah, the dogs at Chase Cars and
pros and chase cars. None of them last very long.
Speaker 8 (43:30):
As Lee tra Video would.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Say, Oh my word, you know, something struck me when
I when I saw what you sent me this morning
where it says, uh it says golf teachers to watch
twenty six and twenty you know, twenty twenty six, twenty
twenty seven, And I think that maybe you should make
a suggestion next time they run a.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Chart like that up put it hit it golf teachers
to hire.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
Maybe you know, it's just a thought, exactly correct, just.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
The thought you don't want them staying at the other
end of the Holy cow.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
That's correct, that's correct.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
What would you do you even have one piece of
information that anybody gave you that really resonates and is
still just stuck in your brain all the way today.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
Well, the huge thing with teaching is the correct diagnosis.
Speaker 10 (44:23):
I mean, Doug, there's so many theories and thoughts and
and things to do, and I you know, I was
I was blessed.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
To be around.
Speaker 10 (44:32):
Jim Murphy and Jim Hardy who who showed me how
to properly diagnose the swing. They seem to have their
own theories and their ways of thinking on how to
swing a club. But impact is kind of indisputable. So
if I'm helping you or helping anyone else in the world,
I feel like I've got a really good shot of
really helping them because you know, let's say they went
to the doctor and they have a bum right elbow.
Speaker 6 (44:55):
You know, if I'm sitting there looking at their left knee,
the whole lesson, I'm off you.
Speaker 10 (45:00):
Yeah, I want to be able to help someone, help
them quickly, and what's key to that is to have
the right diagnosis, whether it's.
Speaker 6 (45:06):
With your health or or with your golf health. So
at any rate, it's it's huge.
Speaker 10 (45:11):
To have that. You can argue theory and whatnot all day,
but you can't argue what's wrong with someone's golf swing
from an impact perspective.
Speaker 6 (45:20):
That's just what's wrong.
Speaker 10 (45:21):
You know, if you have the flu, you got the flu,
you know, so you need to take a tamil flu there.
So that's been the huge thing for me over the
years is really getting a good grasp of diagnosing and
then understanding what elements that I show people how it
applies to that to that problem. You know, does it
make it worse?
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Is it make it better?
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Right there?
Speaker 6 (45:41):
And there's a specific way to kind of do that.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
It's reverse engineering, really, isn't it. You already know the goal,
you already know where the finish line is. You just
have to figure out how to get them there.
Speaker 10 (45:52):
That makes sense, Well, you're you're a detective. Absolutely, You're
going back from.
Speaker 6 (45:57):
The ball flight from the ground and then you look
at the the golf swing.
Speaker 10 (46:02):
And you kind of figure out where to apply a
small change to create a different impact and go from there.
It's an amazing process. I've been blessed to learn from
from a World Golf Hall of Famer.
Speaker 6 (46:14):
It's an amazing process.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
What's interesting is how casually you talk about it and
how comfortable you are with talking about golf when a
lot of the people who are listening now are thinking, yeah,
but I don't know how I have to how do
I do that? And the way you get better I'll
patch you guys collectively as instructors on the back. The
way you get better at golf is learning from somebody
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who understands the game and can actually teach the game
and not go into your.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Scram or not your scrambled, but your.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
Little golf buddy on Saturday morning, who's an eighteen handicap
and you're asking him about how to hit flop shots.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
That's just it's not going to pay off.
Speaker 7 (46:57):
Is.
Speaker 6 (46:59):
Exactly.
Speaker 10 (46:59):
And I feel so sorry in our industry today and
our business, they'll put assistant golf pro listings and tell
them they'll make five or ten extra thousand dollars teaching
in a year, and I'm like, if they're not, if
they don't have any proper training, that's not going to happen.
And so you have to have someone who's willing to mentor,
and that's a lost art. Unfortunately in the in the
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PGA of America for the most part, is that a
lot of corporate is taken over and pros times are
just taken away from playing the game and teaching the game.
Speaker 6 (47:29):
And so these young kids that want to be golf
pros and PGA pros end up quitting because they can't
make enough to take care of themselves.
Speaker 7 (47:36):
You know.
Speaker 10 (47:36):
And again that's that's where I was blessed, was that
I had people that were very willing to mentor and share.
I mean, i'ms I'm I see Chuck Cook to help.
Speaker 6 (47:45):
Myself and to learn from him.
Speaker 10 (47:46):
He's eighty plus years old, still learning and still willing
to help other people.
Speaker 6 (47:51):
And I just that's how I want to be, you know.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
Like me, I'm not eighty yet. I'm not eighty yet, Tommy,
but I'm still learning. Man, I'm trying. I'm trying with
all a more absol, squeeze another five yards out of
that driver, get those chip shots a little bit closer.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
I might be somebody someday.
Speaker 10 (48:09):
You're well, No, you're a love learn You give yourself
credit if you just stay back.
Speaker 6 (48:12):
That's all you got to though, Just stay back.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Yeah, yeah, and honestly, that one little thing every time,
you know, here's here. I don't know whether you intended
to plant this seed in my head, but it's planted
in my head.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
You you got on me so hard about staying back,
staying back until impact, stay back to impact. And you
showed me on video and you showed me when I
freeze frame after a swing and whatnot that I was
pushing my whole body forward through the ball. So now,
no matter where the ball, if it doesn't go exactly
where I wanted to go, all I tell myself is
stay back.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
I'm not linking, I'm not thinking about anything else. Stay
back and it works, it's well, and it does for.
Speaker 10 (48:49):
You because the key to hitting it really solid is
to keep your arc the same for the most part.
When you narrow the arc, that's when people really start
to mishit. I mean it might not hit it, you
know awful, you know, direction wise, but they'll miss it.
And that's what most people do. So that's something I
mean to know if someone's doing that or not.
Speaker 6 (49:08):
Like it solid with compression, that's the.
Speaker 10 (49:11):
Goal what every lasting doug is solid with compression. And
that could be straight, that could be a five yard draw,
that could be a five yard fade. The key is
solid with compression for me every single lesson, and luckily
I've been shown that by.
Speaker 6 (49:25):
Some really cool instructors over the years. How to really
emphasize that as.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
A reminder before we run out of time here, you
can you can teach anybody out there at black Hawk.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
They don't have to be members to take lessons, correct.
Speaker 10 (49:38):
I'm blessed they let me teach anyone as long as
they follow the code.
Speaker 6 (49:41):
The dress code out of here, yes, place, absolutely, that's it. Yeah,
tucked in shirt, collar, shirt, no dimn.
Speaker 5 (49:48):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (49:48):
We're good to go on that.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
But yet up, let's go. How do they find you, Tommy?
Speaker 10 (49:55):
They can find me on my website at Temmo golf
dot com. My phone numbers on there as well. Just
shoot at text go from there. I'm also on Instagram
at at Tommy O Golf, So if you want to
kind of see what I'm about and go from there,
you can.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
You can do that absolutely, all right, partner, have a
good day out there, Thanks Tommy. Yes, sir, Yes, what
a great guy. I've known him since he was in
his twenties literally, and he's not anymore, that's for sure.
And I've seen him teaching at a lot of different
places around town, and every place he's been he's done
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a good job. I'm sure they've they've kept him as
long as as a better offer didn't come along. And
I'm comfortable saying that he's comfortable where he is right now.
And I see him out there giving lessons in one
of the things that I admire, and I'm sure it's
something that most great golf teachers do, but Jim Murphy
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was one of the first to kind of show me
or use this technique on me. All of these guys
are capable. They'll dig into your like what else do
you do for fun? What do you do You like
to fish, do you like to hunt, do you like
to go bowling?
Speaker 2 (51:05):
What else do you do physically in your life other
than golf?
Speaker 3 (51:10):
And once they find out what you really like and
what you can really relate to other than trying to
swing a golf club, which none of us wake up
born and start swinging clubs, they help transmit the information
they're trying to get into your head by using some
sort of analogy that brings in that. I've heard Tommy
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talk to me a lot about different things, like in
fishing and in baseball. There were baseball issues in my
swing for long, for a long long time. Same with
my sons, and he used analogies that incorporated baseball to
tell us what we needed to hear. Same thing with
someone who likes something else. I've heard him out there
talking about any and every other sport you can imagine,
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and relating it then to that person's golf swing so
that they can understand better how he wants them to
swing the club.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
And in the end, it's kind of just like he said,
and impact is impact.
Speaker 3 (52:08):
It's got to be right, and all he's trying to
do is tell you and me and everybody else who's
getting a lesson from him. All the great instructors do this.
This is why he's on that list of teachers to watch.
They can make it personal for you, and that's man.
You'll like golf a lot more.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
I know I do.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
He's helped me with a couple of things over the years.
He'll see me struggling and chopping up golf balls out
there and walk down to how's it going, Doug, Like,
uhh uh oh, he saw me. He saw me hit
that last one. Oh boy, I'm in trouble. And I say, yeah,
I didn't stay back on that one.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
He yep. Every time, just every time. And it's it.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
It's a process. It's not going to happen overnight. But
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Thank you for listening. Certainly do appreciate it. If it's
super dry and super quiet, you might step on a
twig and get a little snap sound, or the crunching
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of dry leaves under your feet, things like that. But
when you get to a place where you're you know,
you're deep into the woods, and you can just pause
or maybe even sit down. I used to carry just
a little like a little dove stool or a little
folding dove stools over my shoulder, and if i'd my
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my leg's got it at all tired walking through the woods,
I would just sit down.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
I did a lot of still hunting that way. I would.
Speaker 3 (53:59):
I would walk maybe one hundred yards very quietly, and
then sit for ten or fifteen minutes and see if
anything happened by then get up and walk a little
bit more and sit down again. And just when you're
sitting in the woods and just you have nothing better
to do than just look around and listen and breathe
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and inhale the air, it really is for me anyway,
it's pretty pretty moving.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
It makes me feel alive.
Speaker 3 (54:31):
It makes me feel aware, and it kind of removes
me from all the garbage that happens up here in
the cities. I was just talking to Erica back in
the KTRH newsroom about some stories that are hot right now,
and I don't want to think about that when I'm
in the woods. I want to go ahead and check
out of that part of my world and check into
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the part that's calm and serene. And now the flip
side of that there, nature is, nature is pretty cruel.
Speaker 5 (55:04):
Now.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
Every animal has to eat, and for them to eat,
something has to die, and that happens out there.
Speaker 3 (55:09):
They're small predators and big predators, and they're all watching
out for each other, just the same as happens in water,
where I wrote probably thirty years ago. Now that the
only two fish, every other fish among the quadrillions of
quadrillions of fish, and the sea careabouts the one in
front of it and the one behind it.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
The one in front of it is lunch. The one
behind it wants to make that fish lunch.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
It's a really it's a fantastic, beautiful system that's been
going on for billions of years.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
It's pretty fascinating. I love fogg pictures. I've got a picture.
I may dig it out.
Speaker 3 (55:44):
I think it's in the I know it's in my
photo files at the house, my old I'm talking about
old print files from newspaper days.
Speaker 2 (55:54):
Well, I say it is. It's certainly in there somewhere.
Speaker 3 (55:57):
A picture I took once we were my a friend
of mine and I were on our way to go
fish up at Fayett County Reservoir and it was that
ground fog that's so typical in that part of the
that part of the state in the cooler months.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
And we came across a field where.
Speaker 3 (56:13):
The hay had been bailed into big rounds and they
were partially obscured by the fog. And I told the guy,
slam on the brakes right now. I got to get
out and take a picture of this.
Speaker 2 (56:26):
And it just it really caught my mind.
Speaker 3 (56:28):
I stayed out of that truck of his for probably
ten minutes, trying to get just the right light angle
and the right the right exposure and all of that,
and just hoping I was getting it right, making sure
the lens didn't fog up, because it was kind of
foggy after all. And I got I got one I
liked pretty much. It ended up winning an award for
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just a scenic photograph. I don't recall whether it won
for color or black and white, but anyway it was.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
It's a nice shot. If I can find it, I'll
put it up on my Facebook page.
Speaker 5 (56:59):
You know.
Speaker 3 (56:59):
I'm share a few of those because back in the
day we didn't have instant gratification on cameras. We just
had to keep shooting film and hope for the best,
and then take it all back and process it and
look at a contact sheet and just cross your fingers.
It worked out well, though. I might post some of
my better photographs. Be fun, be fun for me, and
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I hope enjoyable for you guys too. I'm getting furniture
clearance outlet emails now.
Speaker 2 (57:29):
I'm not interested. Right now, that's done. That's done. To
check that box, check that box. I'm all good with emails. Yeah,
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (57:40):
Just talk about Trout and Redfish kind of got me
thinking more about the the bigger picture.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
Really, we're looking.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
At specifics within a system that really needs to be
watched closely. Over the coming years, with more people moving here,
more people who are going to discover just how good
our fishing is compared to wherever they came from. And
that's that's not brag, that's just that's not Texas Bravada,
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that's just fact. I've been very fortunate and gotten to
fish in a lot of places around this country, all
the way up the entire East Coast, almost not know.
A couple of states have tiny little shorelines that I
didn't get to fish, but I fished all the way
up to Maine with very few exceptions, and all the
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way I fished the West Coast, I fished many of
even other countries, a lot of them, and inshore, offshore,
fresh water, salt water, Texas probably has as good or
better fishing than anywhere else for anything else. The one
thing I would love to see more here that we
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don't have yet is snook. They're very well established and
weren't for a while, but over the past twenty years
the numbers of snook down there in South Texas have
increased dramatically. Where you can if you want to, you
can absolutely go down there and tell a fishing guide
I want to fish exclusively for snook, and you're going
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to catch some. There's almost no Brownsville ship Channel loaded
it's not like you get one every cast, but you
will catch some. Our offshore fishing is excellent now. Granted,
up here on the upper Coast it's a longer boat
ride to the bill fishing grounds, much longer boat ride
because you got to get in significantly deeper water. But
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South Texas it's just right around the corner practically as
bill fishing trips go. And once you get there, our
catch rates are as good or better than most places anywhere.
Speaker 2 (59:52):
They really are.
Speaker 3 (59:53):
It's just the ride and the expense of going all
the way out there. Good heavens, when you've got these
big ji boats with twin giant diesels turning thirty plus knots,
they're gonna suck out some fuel. These guys Routinely they
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just keep getting bigger and bigger gas tanks on those
things because they've got longer and longer to get farther
and farther to go to get to where they want
to fish. But once you get out there, it's it's
pretty spectacular. Inshore fishing outstanding are bay fishing, even even
right now with with all the little bitty trout in
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the in the Galveston Bay Complex and a lack of keepers.
There are a lot of places I've been where if
you could go out and catch five trout of any.
Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Size in the day, it would be a pretty good day.
They don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
The East Coast has has some decent fishery of Florida's fine.
Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
I'm Florida's great. I love Florida, I do, but I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
I couldn't give up Texas hunting opportunity just for Florida's snook.
And I still want to go catch one of those
clown knife fish that I've only heard of.
Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
I've never actually seen one.
Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
They're pictures of them all over the internet and they're
really really cool looking, and they're all over South Florida apparently.
I talked to Mark Nichols from DA Lewis probably two
years ago when he was in town for one of
our fishing shows, which is upcoming by the way, and
about month and a half, no two months in any event,
I talked to him and said, hey, man, I'd like
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to pop down there and take a swing at one
of those clown knife fish. When when's the best time
to come down for that? He said, whenever you can
book a flight, we can go catch one of those
things just in a snap of a finger.
Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
I like that idea. I want to see one of those.
Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
I still haven't caught a peacock bass in my life.
I never made any trips to Central America or to
South America to do that. I made one trip to
South America and that was for hunting more than fishing,
and I haven't gotten to do that yet. But I'd
like to catch them, just to see if they're all
that they're billed to be. Other than that, I'm really
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comfortable with my options in the state of Texas, and
I'm comfortable in the price of a license to go
chase everything I like to chase, especially since I hit seniority.
Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
The price it's a handy.
Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Discount you get when you earn the stripes I've got
on my birthday card. It's really it was really a
nice change of pace from having to pay the full freight.
But even if you take that standard combo full combo
super combo license and amortize that against the and weigh
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it against the opportunity you get for having that license,
it's a tremendously affordable thing to have in your pocket.
Don't leave home without it either. Kind of like the
old American Express card commercials. There are just like in
any other profession, there are people who are cut and
dry by any law enforcement. Especially, some people will give
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you a break if you're honest and you confess your
sin and you just say I didn't know and have
a legitimate kind of reason for not knowing or not understanding.
Maybe it's your first time, maybe the person sold you
the wrong license with the wrong attachments on. It has
happened to that buddy of mine.
Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Though, when you're told that there's been an infraction, you
have to understand that all these infractions are on you
and not on the game warden, and it's up to
the warden to make the decision whether or not to
write you a citation or a warning or just warn
you verbally. So you're at their mercy, and some are
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going to be more strict than others.
Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
They have the they have the.
Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Within their boundaries.
Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
They can either write you or not write you, depending
on how the experience goes, and depending on how.
Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Tight they are with the way they enforce the law.
So if you messed up, you messed up.
Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
That being said, though, a lot of game wardens I've
talked to a lot of the older ones anyway, do
try to find a way to teach the personal lesson
without having to rip into their wallet too deeply.
Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Some some people cop attitudes.
Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
It's kind of like they do with police officers and
sheriff's deputies and constables and all of these other people
that literally are putting their lives on the line every
time they go to work. I just can't see doing that.
If I mess up, Hey, I messed up. Can we
talk about it? And if that person, that person wearing
the badge says no, I'll say, okay, okay. If they say,
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why did this happen, I'll give them an honest answer.
And believe me, if you're trying to cook something up
real fast, when you see the lights come on, or
when you see the game warden walking into your spread,
don't don't try to fool them with something you can
make up in your head, because they've probably heard whatever
you can think up. They probably heard it at least
three or four times. And if it's just too simple,
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they've probably heard it one hundred times. If they've been
on duty for a long time, they're out there working
for us. You got to remember that. And there are
rules and we have to follow. I don't have a
problem with that. If I if I mess up somewhere
down the line, and I deserve a ticket, and I'll
take my ticket and get on down the road. Seven
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Dougpike Show on Sports Talk seven ninety and we've covered
all kinds of stuff today, haven't we.
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It's all good.
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Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Let's go talk to Rick Bis.
Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
What is up?
Speaker 6 (01:06:46):
Rick?
Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
Good morning morning. I was slept about three forty five
this morning, and I'm home the way home, and I'm
watching this weather.
Speaker 11 (01:07:00):
I thought, you know what, it's gonna get cold sooner
or later, and when it happens, firewood prices are gonna double,
ye are, and I guarantee you and you know, I'm
of course, I'm kind of out in the country on
the highway, but I'm seeing people, you know, got firewood
for sale here there, So I thought, you know what,
I'm gonna stop and give me some firewood.
Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
Just I got some company coming in. I got a
host and uh, I got wood at the ranches. But
I don't want to have to go get.
Speaker 11 (01:07:28):
It split it because it's just had to cut off
the roads too lazy.
Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
So I'm so I'm gonna buy me some firewoods. Anyway,
I pulled over and I run into two things keep
picking up that firewood.
Speaker 9 (01:07:41):
One copperheads, oh yeah, and a and a scorpions and uh,
just a good reminder with the season coming up.
Speaker 4 (01:07:51):
Comperheads love firewood, nice and cozy at.
Speaker 9 (01:07:55):
Your dear lease and stuff and firefit.
Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
I know it's been kind of not really induce it
to fire pits, but uh, around the ranch house or
even in your back door where you live, they like,
I mean, they just they just like firewood.
Speaker 6 (01:08:11):
It's just a matter of time.
Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
And uh, I finally, you know, stopped and found the
guy had I can tell about looking at it. He
had way too much, he had two.
Speaker 9 (01:08:22):
Or three years worth, and about this guy's kind of going.
Speaker 11 (01:08:26):
To get rid of some firewoods.
Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
And sure enough, and then of course you know me,
I spent an.
Speaker 11 (01:08:31):
Hour talking to him, but uh, he's a he's just
an old rancher guy.
Speaker 5 (01:08:36):
Wen.
Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
We kind of hit it off a little bit.
Speaker 11 (01:08:38):
But anyway, watch the snakes, guys.
Speaker 6 (01:08:40):
Be careful.
Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Thank you, Rick, I'll see yeah, man, Audios. Good point. Copperhead.
Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
And if you're just looking at a bunch of firewood,
you may or may not be looking at a copperhead
and not even know it. I'm still still I got
one more since one more since the furniture clearance outlet email,
and that's from faux Pro And he found a video
of I'm gonna look at this. Afterward, he found a
video of a buck fight in the water. I'm gonna
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pull it up here, and I want to see something
real quick.
Speaker 5 (01:09:13):
Thing.
Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
Come on, Oh lordy, I'll have to wait till I
get back over to my main place where I can
see this thing. It's asking me to do a bunch
of stuff I don't want to have to do. Back
to where I was kind of headed a little while
ago on overall conservation of our fisheries around here in Texas,
freshwater and salt water. There are a lot of organizations
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out there, and uh, the one that I'm most familiar
with and have followed throughout its tenure around here is CCA.
And there are others, of course, and some people like
them better than others and whatever. But the bottom line
is every one of us who truly appreciates these resources
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of ours needs to be affiliated at least somehow with
at least one organization that genuinely cares about our fish
and wildlife in this state.
Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
I don't care which one. Like I said, I know
the most about and.
Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
Understand best Cca because I actually edited Tide magazine for
ten years and I learned about the inside, what goes
on on the inside of that office building over there,
and not just what they do outside. When the Star
Tournament comes to mind, and both Michael Berry and I
will be talking next year fairly shortly end of the
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year actually about that tournament and all it's going to
offer to everybody. That's a fantastic tool that they have
to get new members. And the bonus is that by
becoming a member, if you catch the right fish, you're
gonna win a big old prize. I think I want
to say they gave away nearly two million dollars worth
of stuff last year. I believe that's the number. May
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be a little off, but the prize value of all
of what they do in that Star Tournament is fantastic,
and what they've done for these resources of ours is
fantastic as well. I want to say it was last year,
maybe the year before last, possibly when they speaking of
redfish in the bays eating trout, maybe the billionth, the
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one billionth red fish fingerling was released. Now, clearly all
of those fish don't survive. As soon as those fish
hit the water, and a seagull or a pelican or
any other water bird down on the coast that eat
fish flies over, they're going to start getting hammered. But
enough of them make it to the point that we've
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pretty much recovered the red fish population that had been
through the seventies at least more like the eighties, I
guess in early nineties, nearly pleated by commercial harvest. That
species was on the brink of extinction, potentially just going
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away forever if nothing had been done, especially in Texas,
we were really down to our last few redfish. And
all of that work for thirty forty fifty years now,
whatever it's been, it's paid off in sphase. Obviously, when
there's talk of how the red fish are eating up
all the speckled trout, how the redfish in Louisiana, the
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case that was being made against redfish for the longest
time was how they were eating up all the crabs,
and that didn't turn out to be the case. Either
there's nature will find a balance somehow, it will, and
we just have to do our part to give nature
the chance to do that, whether we need to take
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a hard look at how much development we're doing along
bay shores, whether it means we have to take a
hard look at what's being dumped into our bays dredging.
There's nothing we can do about the Houston ship Channel.
That's one of the biggest ports in the world, and
we're gonna have to keep that shipping lane open from
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the gavest and jetties up to the Houston Docks. Nothing
we can do about that, but we still can, in
smaller ways, make sure that that water stays clean as possible,
that we mitigate any damage that's going on. If there's
a spill somewhere, whether it's chemical or oil or whatever,
we take care of that as fast as we can,
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and just do our best on the fresh water side too.
I'm gonna I'm gonna keep watching these fishing shows and
try to count how many times the fish are just
horribly mishandled and hooks are ripped out of their mouths,
and it just it really disturbs me that I'm working
so hard with barbleous hooks and trying to get everybody
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else on board with it. Honestly, if you'll try it
for six, eight weeks, ten weeks, or let's call it
ten fishing trips, make sure that every barb every hook
you throw out into the water is barblous. And I'm
fairly confident that you won't notice any difference in your
catch ratio if you're able to keep tight line and
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if you're able to kind of learn after one or
two little slip offs, how to manage the rod tip
to keep that line tight when the fish is jumping
around in the air. You're not going to lose that
many fish. It's not going to bother you. I promise
you it won't, and it'll save you some trouble. I
had that problem about what was it two three weeks
ago now, where crank bait came out of a fish's mouth,
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not that far off the rod tip, but far enough
to have enough line for it to just one of
the hooks on the back of the crank bait just
absolutely buried itself in between my trisip and my bicep
pardon me, on my left arm. That's I crank right
handed like most people do. I crank with my right hand,
and I looked down and I thought, Okay, it's now
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or never did I? Did I get it right by
telling people that barbarous hooks will save them a trip
to the.
Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
The urgent care clinic?
Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
Or did I not?
Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
And I reached down and.
Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
I pushed that I picked that little hook up and
I pushed it backwards and it slid out of there
like a like a toothpick coming out of a.
Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Well.
Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
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Talk seven ninety wrapping it up. Look at it the
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beach cams this morning. By the way, I was kind
of reminded of how we get a lot of low
water days this time of year. And that's fine if
you're wade fishing or you're fishing off a jetty or
something like that, it really doesn't matter. But if you're
running boats in the bays this time of year, you
better kind of keep an eye open because a lot
of these places where you've run without issue at all
(01:16:33):
for many, many years, suddenly when they lose a foot
of water and you're not paying attention, there's a lot
of stuff on the bottom of that bay that's just
high enough to snap either dig a hole in a
hole or snap a lower unit off or whatever. And
the boy, if you're out somewhere where there's not a
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whole lot of people, because that's where most of us
like to fish anyway, if we can find such a
place as if like that existed, really maybe your cell
signals not all that good.
Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
You could be stuck.
Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
Awhile this is not a bad time of year if
you're going to keep fishing, to go ahead and pack
some sort of cool weather emergency kit and I'm talking
about protein bars, a couple of gallons of water, maybe
even a blanket and something to start a fire. It's
rare that something like that happens, but it does happen.
I guarantee I baff and Bay on the bottom. If
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they drain Baff and Bay, they'd probably find a thousand
lower units out there, and any one of those things
on the right day, well, it would take it would
take a significant drop to expose not only the rocks,
but the lower units. But nonetheless, you kind of get
what I'm talking about. It's it's just something you need
to be taken care of and keeping an eye out
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for the new Parks and Wallife Department rainbow truck Rainbow
Trout stocking schedule is coming out soon. It's said on
the website. I was kind of looking at that this morning,
said on the website. Coming in November. Well, Parks and
Wildlife Department, show me those trout. I want to know
where they're gonna because I'm gonna make a few trips
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this year. I didn't go after them once last year.
Not one time did I go after those little rainbow trout.
And I'm gonna do it this year. And I might
try to dig up a handful of little kids to
go with me, because I'll bait up a spot, I'll
use whatever it takes to get them some bites. And
there's a really good chance we could catch some rainbow
trout that are they're really good kid size fish. They're
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not gonna be any record breakers. Every now and then
you'll see a golden one swimming in the schools in
lakes where the water's really clear. But most of these lakes,
it's just it's a put and take fishery. The Parks
and Waldlife Department puts those fish in there. You get
to keep if they didn't change anything. Five a day,
and that doesn't mean for a lot of these old
guys who take advantage. That doesn't mean catch five, put
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them in your car and then go back and catch
five more. Just get your five for the day and
get out of the way and let some kids catch some.
Okay that they're fun. Joe Doggett and I used to
chase them all the time. We threw lures exclusively when
it was.
Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
Just he and I going.
Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
And I'm hoping that they put that big, big lake
over at tom Oh what is it, tom Bass Park?
Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
The big lake over there.
Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
They once, at one time were putting four thousand of
those fish in their year, and it was really fun
because you could catch them all over that big lake
and they would eat lures and it was it was great.
Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
I hope it's that good again this year.
Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
The funny thing that now, I'll hold these till next week.
I got some more for you that we talked about yesterday.
Right now, I'll just tell you thank you for listening.
Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
I'll be back. I'll talk to you soon. Don't worry.
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
Seriously, have fun, stay outside and have fun with your
family safely.
Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
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