Identifying the Mysterious Stink Bug (Best Of Episode)

This "best of" aired on January 25, 2026.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we go some man issues of the program

(00:02):
starts right now. Let me get this microphone or the pleasure.
That's better. Get my head bothes on straight. Yeah, they're
backward for them. Got to turn them around. No wonder
they felt uncomfortable. That's much better.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
My father had had bad allergic reactions to wasps and hornets.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
I don't think he I don't know about.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hornets he'd I don't think he'd ever been stung by
one of those, but he had a terrible reaction once.
And this is long before there was anything like an EpiPen.
I don't even know what he would have done as
he got older if he had come across one of
those things that had stung him. Who knows, But we
all made it through to here. My dad died early,

(00:43):
just to I don't know why I'm even talking about that.
He passed away at sixty five, major heart attack, the
middle of the night, and I'm grateful that he went fast.
My mother had other issues, and she suffered for a
long time. Bought fought cancer, two different cancers. So the
long and the short of it is, I'm feeling very

(01:04):
blessed to have lived as long as I've outlived my
dad now and now my hope is to outlive my
mother in age, and I've still got long ways to go.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
She hung on for a very long time.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Very strong woman, very demure, if you will, Southern upbringing,
but but tough as nails.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
She had to be to raise me.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I was no picnic. I'm sure I was always scraping, cutting,
breaking things. Now, I didn't get any broken bones until
high school, but I was had. I did have to
be taken to the doctor's office. I don't even know
that the er was a thing back when there. You
could go to the hospital, but I'm not sure that

(01:49):
they even had emergency rooms.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
I guess they did.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I just didn't realize that when I was a little kid.
But wherever it was, we ended up going. Usually for stitches,
we just go to the doctor's office. It was on
a Monday through Friday. Everything's shut down on the weekends,
but you could still call your doctor and your doctor
would come to your house. You're not You're You've never
even dreamed of a house call from a doctor, have you, Frankie.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, I've only seen that in the movies, black and
white movies.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Oh yeah, yeah, that was a long time ago. Uh,
And I was kind of tored the tail end of
that as a kid growing up.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Uh, it's gone.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
You can still get a doctor into your house. You
can get a doctor into your car, You can get
a doctor anywhere that you carry your phone.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Isn't that nice?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
All you have to do is hope it's not an
AI doctor who doesn't know anything about A's or I's mercy.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
I'm off the outdoors, let's get back to it.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Jim calls to tell us that at I think it
was a hunting camp, he and somebody captured a fairly
young armadillo, put it in a box, put it in
somebody's car, I don't know, and then went on and
had dinner and maybe had a couple of drinks. Whatever. Anyway,
they went back in.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
The box was still in the car, but the armadillo
appeared to have escaped, but since the windows were up
and the doors were closed, they couldn't figure out where
it was, and started flashing flashlights all through the car,
looking under the seas, looking here, looking there, And somebody
pointed a flashlight at one of the air conditioning vents

(03:29):
and saw a little nose with whiskers in there, and
that thing had gotten up into the dash somehow of
an older car, mind you, and they ultimately had to.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Take that thing to a mechanic shop.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
That the wise decision was made not to try to
get it out themselves because it could have torn wiring
out and whatnot. So they ended up having to take
it to a mechanic and get them to just dismantle
the entire dashboard to get that thing out of out
of there, which was a much better idea, by the way,
then just leaving it there and hoping it would crawl
out on its own, because if it hadn't been able

(04:05):
to find its way out on its own, and it
had met an untimely and I guess embarrassing if you're
an armadillo demise, they'd never got the stink out of
that car. Seven one three two one two five seven
ninety email on me, Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com.
My story was of a humble little lizard that got
loose in my car. I talked about that, and then

(04:28):
Glenn topped me totally with an email about his wife
being in a hot tub in Houston while he was
on a business trip in California before cell phones. Hot
tub Liz or Oh wait a minute, let me get
to my person. Oh yeah, Liz, I put Liz here.
I'm thinking that was a name. No, that's a lizard.

(04:49):
Was in the hot tub with his wife. Ran across
her shoulder. She drops the phone in the pool right
after she lets out a big scream.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
And that was the last sound that Glenn heard on
the phone with his wife more than a thousand miles away.
A big scream, and then the phone goes dead.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Your mind would have to race in a million directions
and calling neighbors. He's trying to find somebody. Finally she
calls him and just lets him know. Oh, it was
just a lizard. It ran over my shoulder. The phone's dead,
but I got the other one, so I went ahead
and called you back. Oh thank you, thank you for
doing that. Now that my heart stopped nineteen times. You
ever had anything really scare you, Frankie?

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Oh yeah, I mean not a movie. I know you're
a movie buff and a music buff, but no, I
mean outside in real life.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
I mean I went on a hiking trip and I
was in the in scouts. Yeah, it was in New
Mexico and they have black bears there, Yes, they do,
and it was just one of those things that they
had told us kind of how to prep for it.
But I was We had gone hiking that morning and

(06:05):
we had settled in camp, and and my dad was
with me on the trip because me and another guy
that were kind of awake.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Everybody had napped or napping.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
And at the edge of the camp, my dad starts
kind of well, he saw he saw something. Yeah, he
starts banging a pot. I'm like, what are you doing,
like crazy, You're gonna wake the kids up, right, Like
this is annoying. And then I see what he sees
and it's a black bear, probably you know, a good

(06:37):
few yards away, looking for a candy bar, and he
and he's on his fours.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
He's just kind of checking us out.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
And but then as we I start making noise, another
guy that was also awake started making a noise.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
And then the bear stood up and You're like, look
a better, look that's all he's doing.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
Yeah, and like, you know, you don't want to mess
with a much less play basketball guy. And we're kind
of in suspense of Okay, what what is it gonna
do next?

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah? Thankfully you know that was enough to scare him off.
That's good. But it was like, okay, your move, dude.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, I mean, there's a there's a point in that
it alls well, that is well, obviously, but there's a
point in there where the anxiety and the fear ramp
up to an apex at some point, and then as
soon as the bear turns around and starts to walk
even away or run away, then every it's but now
you can breathe again. But until that moment, until you

(07:40):
know you're gonna be okay with that one, it's still
just gonna hang on you man.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Good for you. You got away with it. Lad. He
woke everybody up to the more the merrier in that situation.
Absolutely be big and be loud with a little black bear.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
I've saw, you know, I've seen so many charges on
video of big brown bears and grizzlies up in the
Northwest running at people fishing, running at people camping, whatever.
And some of these folks who've been there doing it
a long time are very nonchalant about it. They'll just
start hollering and yelling and jumping up and down and

(08:18):
yelling at a six seven pound animal that's running straight
at him and can kill them with one swipe of
a paw, and they're just like, ah, scare them off.
I guess that's that's all you can do. If you
if you cower in fear, it may not turn out
so well for you. I'm gonna I'm gonna let my
presence be known. I think I'm not gonna roll over

(08:40):
like a like a possum and play dead.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
That's not gonna do me any favors. Probably.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
I just hope I never have that concern. I hope
I never have that concern. Basically, how did we get
from there to hear?

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Gone? Off the rails already?

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Frankie I had some notes like one, two, three, four, five,
and it's just watch them.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
I just take them and do this to them. Okay,
there go the rules. See you.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Oh man, I do love coming in here. I no fooling.
I had the option this week. I had the option.
I had vacation time all the way through the week,
and when it came to today and yesterday I called Frankie.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
He'll tell you. I called him Friday night and said, man,
I'm coming in tomorrow. I'm not staying out anymore.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
I can't. I can't stand. It got too much to
talk about, too much to talk about.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Something that's kind of funny, has a happy ending like that.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
You know, I don't want to hear that you a
bee flew into your car and you drove off the
road and wrecked your car and got hurt. I just
want to hear that the bee came in, it scared
you a little bit, and then it flew out and
everything everything was okay.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Those stories are welcome. My most recently, actually, I have
to talk. I have to walk that back because I
was gonna stay.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
My most recent twenty twenty sixth story was about the
lizard that I had.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
In my that may or may not still be in
the car. By the way. I'm headed there and I
look up and there's this bright green about the size
of a green pea, but.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
A much brighter, more of a sharp truce than green.
Really little bug. I thought, Oh man, I'm an outdoor
sky I'm not gonna get scared of this little, tiny,
green pea sized bug.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
I'm just gonna grab him. I rolled the window.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
He was on the doorframe inside and just just next
to the window. Roll the window down while he's digging
in and holding on for dear life now because he
can feel all that breeze. Sorry, reach up and I
just pinch him between my index finger and my thumb gently,
wish him well and toss him out the window. Now
bring my hand back in. I roll the window up.

(10:47):
What's that smell? And it was he's some species of
stink bug that I've never encountered before. But now my
thumb and my forefinger are reminding me every step of
the way.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
And I'm looking around.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I'm looking for a foun bottle of water, and I
poured some on a napkin and I'm rubbing my fingers
in there, and all I'm doing is just smeared it
on more.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Of my hand. This stuff's not coming off.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Then I still I had a bottle of Incredible in
the car, believe it or not, su stained remover.

Speaker 6 (11:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
If you're familiar, Frankie, I'll give you a bottle of
one after the show and you take it home, and
I guarantee it it'll be something y'all will use a
million times. So anyway, I put that on there and
it got a little better, but not great. And I
mean that was a potent oil based of some sort.
Because it just stuck to my skin. Smell that's you know,

(11:39):
those little gray stink bugs or you know what I'm
talking about. I think so they kind of looked like
their armor plated on their backs.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, and you touch one and it stinks like crazy,
or you step on one and your shoe stinks for
two days. Well that's the same smell, only every bit
as intense as with one of those bigger bugs. But
this is just in a smaller package, and it just
drove me nuts man all the way to where I
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Speaker 1 (12:36):
Talk seven ninety. I don't know where that came from.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
I spent not a lot of time, but a few
seconds at least, scouring the internet looking for this bug
that was in my car so I could give it
a name. And all the green stink bugs that show
up in here are most of them, anyway, are identical
to the gray one that I talked about in their

(13:00):
their backs look like kind of like looks like a
turtle shell. Almost this one had no such covering on it,
And I'm wondering if there's maybe a molting stage or
something like that, uh in that species, because I'm I'm
four or five pages down now and I still haven't
found that bug. So I have either discovered a new

(13:23):
species of stink bug or I'm just not looking in
the right place or calling it the right thing. But
it's the identical smell to that traditional stink bug that
we all grew up with here in the Greater Houston area.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
But I can't find the green one.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
It was way prettier than those other ones, though you'll
recognize them if you don't know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Next time you see a bug on the ground, gray
or green, it kind of looks like it's got a
shell on its back, and then it kind of a
blunt nose. It looks like it's it looks like something
that would have been shaped oval if it ran into
a wall six or eight times.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Does that make sense, Frankie, it's just kind of a
flat a flat front. Just just kept trying to get
through the wall like that until it finally grew weary
of doing it and said, I, I'm just gonna have
to live with my shell like this.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
That's what it looks like. Uh.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
And if you touch it and and mess with it,
it will leave stink all over your hands. If you
don't know what that is, welcome to Houston and you'll
find out soon enough. Seven one three, two, one two
five seven ninety Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com.
Got that covered, Got that covered, Got that thing out
of the car. As I mentioned, Oh back to back

(14:42):
to my buddy Daniel cooking me going out to go fishing.
We spent, by the way, a fair amount of time
bird watching. And guess what kind of birds we were
watching out there? Once again, Frankie, cormorant. Yes, what a
fantastic guess. Yes, they're back now they're not as many
now most of them have left, but they were doing

(15:05):
what they do, and twice Daniel and I kind of
faked them out by riding up in the golf cart
as close as we could get to where they were
doing their dirty work, and they would scatter and run.
They can see the hatred in my eyes. I think
when we drive up behind them now they know that
I don't like them, and so they will skitter on off.

(15:27):
But we need to do more than just skitter them
halfway across the lake to where they feel comfortable they
need to go. They need to go bye bye. That's
going to be one of my projects, I think for
twenty twenty six. I'm going to find somebody who will
talk talk about this at the national level, because federal
protection needs to be lifted off those pergs. And I'm

(15:48):
not saying they need to be eradicated. Everything's got a place.
But I've been trying for years to come up with
some beneficial value in corn morns and there's none. There's
just nothing they do that benefits any anything else on
the planet that I can see.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Off the soap box.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
So Daniel me fishing, working hard, trying to catch something
in lakes that have been annihilated by those birds. Every
every small not all of them, but most of the
small fish gone. Most of the bass gone because they
either starved to death or they got picked off after
being hatched before they got big enough to not be

(16:32):
a victim of those birds. And those birds, by the way,
quick footnote, they can swallow a bass longer than a
foot a foot long bass, they can just down the
hatch that little skinny neck of theirs.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Don't be fooled. It expands and grows. Now I'm just
not gonna talk about that, but you know what I'm
talking about, and it's yeah. They that neck of theirs
can handle a lot. So anyway, we did a lot
more casting really than we did fish catching.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
In fact, Daniel was the only guy to even get
a bite. I got zero bytes. I take that back.
There was one that may have been a bite, maybe not.
And then there was another incident where the lure stopped
and I lifted up to set the hook and the
line actually moved about a foot to the left. I thought, oh, okay,
here we go, and all I had done is is

(17:28):
snagged a little rock. Well, I say a little rock.
It was about that rock was about the size of
a large baked potato, and so clearly it didn't move
anymore than just vertically or whatever I put on it.
But I took the rock out of the water, so
I don't have to deal with that one again. He
hooked a good fish. He really did that thing. I'm

(17:48):
guessing five or six pounds, probably not more than six
where we were and how he was fishing, but it
could have been, but we just never saw it. He
didn't and he never got the fish's head out of
the water. Definitely a bass, no question about that in
my mind, the way it was fighting. But it ultimately
pulled the hook, and so we had that to work with.

(18:12):
H we and he got there a little bit late
for us to try any golf practice. I'd been there
about ten or fifteen minutes. And when he got there,
let's just go fishing. Let's just go do that. And
that's what we did, and it turned out all right.
We had a good time. First few casts of the
of the year aren't gonna aren't gonna define my whole year.

(18:33):
I can assure you I've got plenty more options, plenty
more opportunities coming. Let's see what who was that faux
pro sent me, He says, is this stink bug you're
talking about?

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Let me see? So boring to listen to me looking
something up that that kind of looks like him. But no, no,
it was completely The whole bug was the same color.
The whole bug was that color.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
And its back was not It was not smooth like
most of these bugs. Look, it was more what's that
fruit that's just kind of bumpy.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
All over, frankie dragon fruit or maybe so it's.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
It's not big bumps, it's just little Oh gosh, it's
almost like a tennis ball, if a tennis ball was
just a little rougher than its actual cover. And that's
what it looked like, and almost like the like the
skin of an oranger a grapefruit.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go
with that. That's what it was.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Kind of like the skin of an orange or a grapefruit,
only bright green and steaks to high heaven and was
not fun to have picked up. In hindsight, you know,
you learn something every day, and I learned not to
pick up one of those again. You know what I'm
gonna do with the next time I see one. I'm
gonna wait until it's it's got a clear shot to
out the window and middle finger against thumb. I'm gonna

(19:57):
pull back as hard as I can and just just
old gull it right out into the street and it
can fly. It might have a chance. If it can't,
that's not my problem. I don't know. It had to
have flown to get into the car, though, so it
should not make that mistake again.

Speaker 7 (20:15):
You know.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
The first thing I'll do.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
I'll tell you what I will do is I keep
some napkins in there just in case I have to
blow my o's or I spill something.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
He's gonna be picked up with something between skin and bug.
I'm gonna have to.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Go with that.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I talked a little bit about trying to get some
more first time callers.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Be dose I.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Every now and then i'll get somebody. Oh yeah, I've
been listening a long time. It's the first time I've called. Like, why,
surely I've said something that you wanted to comment on.
Surely you've had a question. I'd love to get more
a couple of more brand new callers to the show
and welcome you aboard. It's easy in it, Frankie, I
don't I don't ever beat anybody up, do I No,

(20:54):
There been there have been people on the radio over
the years who would.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Just go off on callers.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
And why they would do that, I don't know, but
I've heard it and known some of those people, and
I'm just I'm totally the opposite. I'm I'm thrilled when
you guys call and asked me questions or tell me
a story that you enjoyed from the outdoors. I love
that stuff, I really do makes it. It makes it

(21:23):
more fun for me. And like I said, I try
to learn something every day. I learned about that green
bug yesterday. And before this show's over, I guarantee you
if somebody's gonna say something that'll make me think and
make me question things. What is this Southern green stink bug?
Is what Faux Pro said, And then I'll go to
the break, Frankie, I promise. Is a shield shaped insects. See,

(21:43):
that's the shape of most of these things. It's like
a shield. The head is at the top of the shield,
and then you've got those the curving down to like
an arrowhead pointed down a broad arrowhead. But that's not
what I That's not what it was. Oh it says,
which may turn brownish and cooler temperatures. Okay, that's cool.

(22:07):
Maybe that's why we look at the kind of brown
gray ones. I didn't get close enough to see its eyes,
body features. Yeah, no, this is not the bug.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
This is some Maybe this is something that came over
from a foreign land to take over and dominate the
United States. Frankie, I saw the first one, the the scout,
if you will, knows man, there's all kinds of crazy
stuff comes through customs. I've talked to some of those

(22:38):
people before, back when I was at the paper, I
used to talk about that because there was a big
trade in wildlife, in foreign wildlife worldwide, poaching and trading
of tusks and rhino'horn and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
And they said, you'd be amazed at some of the
bugs we see crawl out of these boxes. It's just nuts.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
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got tangled up Erica down there in k t r
H News, women're visiting. I'm gonna go straight to this

(23:41):
phone and get David Prute on the phone, David from
Riceley and Waterfowl Club. So have you seen have you
seen this deal that Senator Kennedy from Louisiana put out,
the press release he put out, and what he told
the federal the Fish and Wildlife Service.

Speaker 6 (23:57):
Oh yes, that's very good, lady, don't it.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
It may be a day late and a dollar short,
but honest to goodness, if anybody you and I know
and we know a lot of people who waterfowl hunt,
if any one of them was thinking about selling their decoys, no,
hang on to them, because things are about to change.
I got a hunch Kennedy's gonna flip this thing around
and fix this.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
That's about time I hitting it too.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
I've got some others. Oh, I've got some other information
you could use. You know, when farmers do this, because
I had farmed as a farmer for several years, you
have to sign up everything with the FSA office. That's
some Farmer Service agency right now, that's a that's a
federal government document. When you sign it, let's they they

(24:41):
say you got to have it. Which farm number you
farming get on?

Speaker 8 (24:45):
Now?

Speaker 6 (24:45):
Which track number in there? And it also tells you
how many acres is in that track They already know
you say, okay, I'm going to do three hundred and
fifty acres of corn, and so you you plan it
and you only harvest three hundred acres and didn't harvest
the other that's against the law.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
That's that simple. Wow. So how have they been doing
this for so long?

Speaker 2 (25:07):
And yeah, that's you know, there's a lot of questions
to ask Arthur.

Speaker 6 (25:11):
Oh, a bunch of questions. And it has been a
big thing, you know, up north. And I understand some
of it is these people that's got plenty of money.
And I'm glad people do have plenty of money, because
that's what helps the world around here.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
It is.

Speaker 6 (25:25):
Uh, but they're going in with these big high fences
and places and farming just for ducks and stuff. And
that's perfectly legal. If you're just farming just for ducks
and not trying to harvest it, that's perfectly legal.

Speaker 9 (25:38):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (25:39):
But it's starting to get to the point it's wiping
out the normal guys for public honeting.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yeah, yeah, well public and down here even Lease, honey,
kind of like what you run, you know, it hurts everybody.
The The one that really knocked me all out of
my chair almost was the statistic that he gave on
Louisiana's mallard camp. Do you see that?

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Let me let me okay, oh yeah, So here's the deal,
and I'll let you try to fill in the blank,
just like I let Frankie.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
I'll just read it.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
It says, mallard harvest in the state of Louisiana dropped
x percent from nineteen ninety nine to twenty twenty one.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
What do you think that percentage was.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Ninety five for every one hundred mallards they were killing
in nineteen ninety eight, Now they're killing five. Imagine that,
and that now that explains so much, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Oh it's massive a bounce.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, it's just and they and I really do think
that when he gets hold of something, he doesn't let go.
And I'm truly hoping that he can get some committee
hearings going and whatever it takes in Washington, I don't care.
But this is a serious issue, and thank goodness, there's
guys like you and me and everybody will get in

(27:00):
involved in this to keep talking about it. Right to
your congressman, right to everybody you can, right to the
Fish and Wildlife Service. Tell them you're tired of getting
ripped off by people up north who deliberately flood corn and.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
I just don't like it. That's baiting. If we did
that down here, we'd go to jail prison.

Speaker 8 (27:21):
Oh yeah, they Oh yeah.

Speaker 6 (27:23):
I mean I had a rice field that they did
not do second crop on. Will it come back, volunteer,
and they would not let me manipulate it. Okay, that's volunteer.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
No.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
And yeah, it's just like.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Weeds growing in the yard at that point, right.

Speaker 6 (27:38):
Well, the next year it grew back again because it
had a wet spring, and it grew back on solid
just like it did the first time. Oh god, as
a rodular trump and they still would not let me
manipulate it.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Holy ket.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
So let's say something about Texas Parks of Wildlife.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Oh, be careful, be nice to them. They do a
very good job for what they got. Okay, good, Yeah, yeah,
so what you got?

Speaker 6 (27:59):
Well, Uh, I'm not saying nothing bad about them. First off,
I just kind of Everybody has the right to agree
or disagree, of course, but I you know, if what
we're missing down here in the South is more sanctuaries
are let's call them refuge not refugees, but roosting areas
or safety zones you know, yeah they no or you're
not hunting, right, They used to be everywhere.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
That's a good point back yeah, back when I was guiding,
there were there were roost ponds everywhere, and nobody hunted them.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Right.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
Well, it's hard to find a place or farmers or
other landowners that'll allow you to do such, you know,
to plump water or keep it, you know, in there
for a sanctuary only with nobody around it. Uh, Texas
Parks a while life. And I don't know who come
up with it. I'm sure the biologists and all their
top people did, But I'm going to give some reality
to it. They say that the pintel will fly eleven

(28:50):
miles to feed. I agree, all right, so you don't
need a sanctuary, but ever eleven miles. Now this is
where I come in disagreement.

Speaker 8 (28:58):
Uh, you know, I.

Speaker 6 (28:58):
Travel fifty miles was to go get something to eat
every now and then, But I don't do it every day.
I go as close to home as I can sure,
But eleven miles. That is equivalent to putting a sainctuary
in the middle of downtown Houston and saying our roost
area and saying that worldly gonna is good enough to

(29:18):
cover the inside of sixten Loop. Now is that big
enough area? One sainctuary in the middle.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (29:24):
No, not really.

Speaker 6 (29:26):
Okay, Now let's get to the reality of it's from
downtown Houston all the way out to Felt.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Way eight the conference. Yeah. Yeah, Now that's that's the born.

Speaker 6 (29:34):
In reality, it's not enough of them.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, we need a lot more roost area. And that
roost area has to be monitored too.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
For just like I was talking about earlier before I
called you up for avian collar stuff like that, there
has to be and we had all those eyes and
vehicles driving around and observing and looking. When that was
a was a very robust waterfowl hunting area.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
From down where you are all the way up to
Katie Man.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
There you could ride around and bump into one hundred
trucks guys riding around scouting and looking and seeing what
was going on out there.

Speaker 6 (30:12):
Exactly. I think we just need more stuff. I've thought
about starting the Texas Waterfowl Alliance to get people involved,
not just guys are outfitters, but the general public involved.
And what is better for the state of Texas. How
to do this? Well, I was going to do this
thirty years ago and never done it. Yeah, and I
still have it in the back in my mind. So we

(30:32):
could get some people from the state of Texas like
they do in Louisiana other states. This is what we're missing,
This is what we should be doing, and present it
to our Congress. But present it to you.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, oh no, come back you there. Oh good.

Speaker 6 (30:49):
Yeah, it's just it's just reality. Of course, I think
it needs to be happening in the state.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Let's do let's do this.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
David, make me a promise that you will bring this
Texas Waterfowl Alliance a little bit more to the four
and then let's have some conversations about getting it started,
because I can probably gather a pretty good crew of
people and.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Not everybody's going to have the same opinion.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
We don't want to all be little robots saying the
same thing. We want to have a lot of sharing
of ideas and.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
What will work, what won't work, what might work, what
could work, and then focus on Texas waterfile. It's time.
I like that.

Speaker 6 (31:25):
Yeah, I think it needs to be from public land
to private land.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Roads Well, you know as well as I do.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Most of it's going to be private land because that's
what Texas is, and that really with the right with
the right people pushing something, there's there's opportunity to get
things done faster, I think on private land than on
public lands.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Right, exactly, All right, man, exactly, You and I we're
we're in it for the long haul, buddy. You know that.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Man.

Speaker 6 (31:52):
Sure, and it can come back. Everybody says it won't,
but it can come back if John Kerry and everything
he's doing will help through and stop a lot of
what's been going on.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, this guy Kennedy is gonna I think he's gonna
be the I mean, no, I understood that that's not
a problem. Hey man, it wouldn't be the first time
I said the wrong name on this show. Holy count exactly.
Oh Man. The older I get, the worse it gets too.
In any event, with him taking this up and sending

(32:25):
this it's kind of a notice, really, not even a
press release to the fishy Wildlife Service that they messed up.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
And they need to fess up and.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Concede that what they did in nineteen ninety eight and
what they did again in nineteen ninety nine to take
that enforcement stuff out of it, that was wrong. It
was a mistake, and they got to own it and
they got to fix it.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
And if we put enough pressure on him, you know,
votes count man, votes count YEP.

Speaker 6 (32:53):
Sure it does. And everybody's entitled the mistakes. I mean,
this is something that happened. They thought it was a
good idea at the time, but they let it go
too far and look where it's got us.

Speaker 9 (33:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
I really do feel like somebody convinced them, with their
fingers crossed behind their back, that those birds needed some
sustenance on the way during their big long migration. But
like I said earlier before before I started talking to you,
those ducks have been doing.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
That for a thousand year, ten thousand years. They don't
need they don't need a convenience store on the highway
to wherever they're going. They can just get on the
highway and drive and right.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:29):
Man, if God can create a duck and he can
go from a nesting habitat all the way to the
south as far as he feels he needs to go
naturally and turn around and make it all the way
back up north, he can handle what he's looking for.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Phenomenal, isn't it when you stop and think about that.
We can't get to that. We can't get to the
grocery store without GPS.

Speaker 6 (33:49):
You know, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
I mean really, I know a lot of people who
probably couldn't.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
It's just stunning how how inadequately we are prepared for
real world stuff like was. And I'm not talking about
going back to cave man days. I'm talking about just
going back to no electronics. Can you imagine leaving home
without your phone?

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Now? No, couldn't do it.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah, and all these places back when I was guiding
all over the prairie, just riding all over the place
and having a great time, and and you'd get directions
and you'd write them down. You go two miles to
this road and you take a left, and you go
to the where the big tree used to be, and
you take a right, and you'd get there eventually, and
if you didn't, you'd have to stop at somebody's house

(34:32):
and use their phone. Crazy, all right, David, keep keep
your chin up out there, and keep your head down
and your chin up, and we'll we'll get some ducks
at some point and we'll all be better for it.
I know it, man, You've been in it fifty years.
You know what it is.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
You know what it is, the roller coaster. Put some
heads together. Yeah, I like that, I really do. All right,
have a good one, yes, sir, you too. Audios. Oh
thank you, David. I'm gonna let Dave hang on for
a little bit and I'm gonna go ahead and go
to this break, and then when we get back, I'll
catch up with him.

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Speaker 1 (35:19):
He can do that in that parking lot. Now, some
of these are just kind of commuter bikes. Then you
drive to the drug store to pick up a few things,
maybe to the grocery store and back. And they're also
that Traxas and rambow Line. Those are hunting bikes.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
You don't leave a scent trail when you ride one
of those to your deer stand.

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I love the idea of hunting with these things.

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Speaker 1 (36:19):
Good, have a look at that phone bank. It's like
a Christmas tree. I gotta start with Dave, he's been
there the longest.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Then we're gonna get to I'll let Frankie tell me
who was next, Mike and Brick.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
We'll get to everybody in this break, hopefully before we
get to the top. Uh day, would we day? There
we are? What's up?

Speaker 8 (36:37):
Man?

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Okay, now that I moved into this new house, I
got a fifteen foot by sixty foot runway. It's kind
of on the slope, but I'm thinking up by the
front gate to put me a putting green up in there.
And then, uh so, what are your suggestions on getting
something something up there to work? Because I might probably

(36:59):
have to have a chip or with the slope and
they're just you know, like put put it's gonna be
kind of hard.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah, yeah, get somebody out there who does that for
a living Dave, And because I not being able to
see the yard, not knowing exactly how much room you
have and what kind of slope you got, let let
them come up there and use their imagination to see
it and then I'm sure with computers today they can
show it, show you exactly what it's going to look like.

(37:27):
But yeah, it'd be tough for me.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
This is a whole lot. When I had to go
hill golf course here in Houston was on flat ground,
you know, But here this is a whole different.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
Anyway, all right, buddy, thank you, Dave, God bless yeah God.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
What's up, Mike.

Speaker 7 (37:47):
I got a couple of things for you. Number one,
have you ever been driving along at a normal speed,
not highways speed, but in suburbs and so forth and
a dragon comes in the one day.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
I have not had a dragonfly get in yet.

Speaker 7 (38:04):
Those are the most annoying bugs in the world. All
they do is buzz on your window and you roll
down all the windows in the car. They will not
get out. They just buzz in that back window and
a noise the devil out of it.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Oh my gosh. No, I have not experienced that. But
I don't doubt you want at all those things are.
They're pretty amazing. I'm glad we have them around for
what they do, but I don't want one in my car.

Speaker 7 (38:33):
The other thing I was calling about sitting around the
fire with a bunch of old time hunters. Yeah, a
comment came up to kind of peaked my curiosity. One
of them said, you should never put a scoop on
a new rifle until you have shot it with factory sights.

(38:55):
And I asked him why. He said that. He says,
you get a feel for a gun before you put
one of those high priced leges on your gun. And
I said, well, you know, that makes a little sense.
I guess if you're shooting anything within about zero to
two hundred yards, but anything beyond that, you know, I'm

(39:18):
getting to the age now where I need little help.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, I don't know that I would care really about
shooting the gun with just factory sights, not a scope
at all, just factory metal sites that are on most
rifles that are sold today, just at least mass produced rifles.

Speaker 7 (39:39):
He was talking about having a peep site on it.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Okay, a peep site whatever. If I'm gonna hunt with
that rifle, I want to scope on it. I know
I've gotten I got two.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Rifles that are not scoped, and I think there's two still. Yeah,
and I use it. I've never put scopes on them.
I don't want to put scopes on them.

Speaker 7 (40:00):
I've never had a scope on a rifle that I
shot most of my deer with, and that's the old
model ninety four. And you know, I got to tell
you it's a little easier to shoot without a scope
to me, Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Most of the shooting I do is a little farther,
a little farther out. And like I've got a thirty
thirty that's never going to have a scope on it.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
I don't want that. I'll use that at inside one
hundred yards all day long. I like it. But I
don't think you have to wait.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
I don't think you have to break in the rifle
by shooting it through peep sides or open sides or whatever.
Just if you want to shoot with the scope, put
the scope on it and learn to shoot it with
the scope.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Because it changes the eye relief a little bit. You're
not going to it's not the same thing.

Speaker 7 (40:47):
Yeah, I got a rude awakening the first scope I rebought.
The guy told me that says, putting a scope on
a rifle is like buying a painting and then having
a custom frame foot for it. And what are you
talking about? And he says, the frame busts more than
the painting does.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yeah, a lot of times. That glass is important, man,
binoculars and scopes, and the binoculars and scopes have to
be of the same quality. Apologize today, Frankie.

Speaker 6 (41:17):
Let me know.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
I'll grab him on the other side of the break
because I want to finish this with Mike.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
So here's the deal. If you've got a great pair
of binoculars and you can see up into the dark
woods with them, you just they just gather so much
light and you can shoot. You can see clearly through
your binoculars at the very first glimmer light on the
horizon and the very last glimmer light. But then you
see a big old buck standing in there, and you

(41:41):
throw the rifle up, and you've got a eighty dollars
scope on it. You can barely see the trees, let
alone that. Yeah, And I would rather, I would.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Almost, if I was forced, I would almost sacrifice a
little quality in my binoculars and add it to the
price of the scope that I'm going to buy.

Speaker 7 (42:02):
Speaking of binoculars, one of these programs, one of these days,
I'd like you to do, you know, a little segment, Yeah,
on what what you really need when you get out
in the field.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, it's a big difference in just binoculars on the
beach looking at the scenery there.

Speaker 7 (42:17):
Yeah. Man, well I'll let you go, thank you.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Yeah, yeah, I would love to do it. What I
want to do. I'll get somebody from one of the
binocular companies. I got to go through Swarowski, uh like
a training deal for their dealers. It was a two
day seminar and no, not two days, it was two
separate sessions and I think there were about two hours
apiece though, so we spent four hours learning all about
binoculars and it was fascinating. And I'm going to try

(42:43):
to find somebody. I'm gonna make a little note.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
To myself a RS Binoculars to find somebody who is
that has that level of expertise and can really come
in here and ask ask it or answer some straight
up questions but binoculars, because that's in optics in general.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
And I'll get somebody good. I promise. There's all kinds
of people out there who can who qualify. All right,
let me let's jump out, Rick.

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He's got a store up in Spring.

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(43:52):
going on right now, so we don't have to talk
a lot about that. I'm sure you all heard me
talking enough about my own golf game.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
So I'm gonna go chick in with a Rick. What's up, Rick, Bike,
it's been dump.

Speaker 8 (44:05):
I came here to do something and I'm I should
have already left, but I wanted to finish off with
you because I thank you.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
I called in.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
I wouldn't go.

Speaker 8 (44:16):
You. You know, you mentioned you're that gentleman that cause
regularly was talking about an open sack down and you
said you had an open sack thirty thirty. I said,
it's either a Winchester or Marlin.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
What else could be? It's Winchester.

Speaker 8 (44:30):
Yeah, like anyway, I know it made me think I
had a Winchester model Model ninety four pre sixty four.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
And now where it is?

Speaker 8 (44:42):
Can I put my hands on? I was looking for
it the other day. I can't find it. Saved my life.
I probably leaned up against a tree somewhere and walked
off and forgot it. Now, speaking of that, I did
walk up on the gun one day that was leaned
up against a tree. This truth were leaned up against
the trees, a Remington twenty two two fifty with a

(45:03):
three by nine Leopold on it. Oh wow, it'd been
there a while, been there a while. You know what
was laying there next to it?

Speaker 1 (45:11):
I don't know, hope not a skeleton.

Speaker 8 (45:12):
Now this will date how long it had been there.
It'd been laying there so long. Well, laying beside it
was three pearl beer cans. Oh god, how long it
had been sitting there?

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah, it's been there a hot minute.

Speaker 8 (45:30):
But the question it made me think of and I'm
in this this this group. You may be, but I'll
be curious of how many people and that our listeners
just looking at the spectrum of age, sure have shot
a deer in the deer season legally with an open

(45:52):
sight gun of any kind or a shot gun.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Oh gosh, I don't know. You don't. I've done the
open sites. I haven't.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
I don't believe I ever killed a deer with a shotgun.
Uh huh, I haven't, And I don't know why. I mean,
I've had the opportunity certainly places I went, any place
that I shot that that thirty thirty, I could have
used a slug just as easily or bug shot.

Speaker 8 (46:19):
Well, not anything about Yeah when I was a young guy.
Of course, now today there's probably people listening going, I
know you shot. You actually hunt animals with an open site? Yeah,
you actually hunt big game with a shotgun. That was
the way of the world, man.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's that.

Speaker 8 (46:36):
We didn't have created more six four five.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
That's way more modern than a Poet era.

Speaker 8 (46:43):
We had a Remington wing Master twelve gates pump.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
You were lucky, absolutely. Oh yeah.

Speaker 8 (46:48):
We had a Winchester lever Action open open site in
a rapple. The guys are rich guys. They might have
had a something with a scope on it. But I'll
just be curious for how many people can say they've
done that. I can say, I'm sure and uh, I
enjoyed it. It sure puts you up close and personal.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
But I think open sites are kind of like that's
it's kind of a bow hunting light if you will,
You're you're in the middle between bow hunting really demands
a lot of skill and a lot of stealth and whatnot,
and then you've got the open sites, which you still
got to get closer than you do with a scope rifle.

(47:34):
So it's it's in the middle that it's a good
fun way to hunt too, it makes you a better hunter.

Speaker 8 (47:39):
I think I've got two things, Okay, No one is
the problem with open site is, in my opinion, it's
only worth for this to me. I think the open site,
the people that have done it are going to do it.
The biggest mistake they make they take too long of
a shot.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, I'll tell you something else.

Speaker 8 (48:02):
Very few people thirty thirty or whatever, and that bullet's
gonna wander around on you anyway. The other thing is
I'm gonna break in my brand spanking new snake boots.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Get out of here. Good for you, good for you brand?

Speaker 8 (48:15):
They are.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Uh, I could guess, but I want you to tell
me cheap, cheap.

Speaker 8 (48:23):
I go through about two pair of year.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
You need to take them back.

Speaker 8 (48:28):
I literally walk out of them. I walk out of them.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
My gosh, wow. Yeah, I don't want.

Speaker 8 (48:34):
To come off. You can glue on them, you can,
you can nail them. Well them, they're gonna come back
off again, so I'm not little throw them away. Yeah,
I want you to find some time. I want to
take you to my new place in Bernie, Texas and
a minorit. Okay, to new places, all right, I.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Go check it out and we can do it during
the week. Okay, I may. I may try to do that.
Thank you.

Speaker 9 (48:54):
Rick.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
All Right, we got that taken care of. Let's go
get Doc on the phone. Doc, what's up.

Speaker 10 (49:01):
So talking about finding them guns leaning against the Yeah,
of course the beer cans. Beer cans probably explained, that's evidence.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Yeah, that's that's critical evidence.

Speaker 10 (49:12):
Well, one another kind of and I don't I was
out there to witness this. This is out in Wyoming.
You shoot a well endowed, antlered animal and you're so
proud of it, and then you put your rifle across
the horns to take a picture, and that only slightly
dead critter jumps up and runs awfully.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Oh lord gun, I know somebody that happened to.

Speaker 10 (49:36):
But uh, you know, many years ago, throwing up Wyoming.
I'd heard that story, but I don't have any reason
to doubt it after hanging around with something.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Yeah, no, kidding, kind of makes sense. And just hang
that rifle in there. Get make sure you get this
trap around part of the horn so it doesn't fall
off and go off.

Speaker 8 (49:56):
Okay, fine, want that?

Speaker 1 (49:58):
No, and then it jumps up and runs. That's hilarious.

Speaker 10 (50:02):
But there's no doubt. There's no doubt that anymore. The
quality of these class of the glass anymore is just yeah,
frequently the glass is working more than the gun. Yeah,
And you know, I pay a lot of attention to
military history. The most prolific Allied Stiper was a Norwegian fella,

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and he never looked through the glass. His whole life.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Wow. Wow, yeah, you know, we'll.

Speaker 8 (50:28):
Talk to you.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah, thank you, thank you George, thank you doctor. Always
a pleasure. Yeah, Happy New Year.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
See. Yeah, that's he's wise man.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
You know something he brings up about about the glass
and the rifles, the quality of rifles.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Even even some of the I don't want to call
him cheap, not at all, but less expensive rifles right
out of the box are highly accurate and it's not
hard at all to spend more on a quality scope.
Then you're gonna have to spend on that rifle.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
And the best thing you can do is go to
someplace that does this for a living. Go to a
gun store and really have a conversation with someone who
knows about guns, a gunsmith, somebody like Jerry or Jay
Down or anybody really at Shooter's Corner or some of
the guys in Carter's Country. Go there if that's closer

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for you, and have a.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Conversation about which of the newer rifles are most accurate
and dependable right out of the box, And there are
some that it's just amazing what they'll do.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
You just slap that scope on air and bore sight it,
take it out to the range and all of a sudden,
you're just going to be shooting quarters at two hundred yards.
If you've got a good scope, the rifle is capable.
And if you find you've got to match up the
AMMO to it too. This is something we can talk
about a lot before deer season, usually not after or

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in the middle of, but before the season starts.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
If you've got a new rifle, you need to find
out what it likes. I'm trying to I don't know.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
I can't think of anything offhand that's a good comparison.
But if you take three different boxes of AMMO, same
bullet weight, same powder charge, same everything, and you take
them to the range and shoot two or three rounds
of each box at the same target with the same

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level of accuracy that you have, you'll see a very
different There'll be one of those that shoots tighter than
the others.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
And kind of.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Jokingly found out when I got my seven bag that
it happens to like one of the least expensive federal
cartridges for that rifle, for that caliber that's ever been made.
It's just a work and it's a blue collar rifle
and it loves that cheap AMMO. And I made it

(53:03):
a point to buy several boxes of it years ago,
and I'm darned near out and it kind of spooks
me a little bit.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
But man, that thing.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
I put some really expensive AMMO in it because it
was at that time it was the nicest gun I owned,
and I wanted to make sure that I was going
to give it a chance. And lo and behold, that
stuff was kind of all over the paper, not literally,
but it was a worse group, by far worse group
than I was shooting with that cheap stuff. So I

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need to go find some more of that. I also
need to take a break. We'll run a little bit
behind here. It's Sports Talk seven ninety the Dug Pike
show Man. It's fun when this coffee kicks in. And
I hadn't had coffee in like two weeks. Well, no,
last weekend I had some, but that was the only
coffee I'd had in a week, and then I went
this whole week without. I only drink it when I'm here,
and I wasn't here on a weekday.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
This week.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
I'll be back in the saddle full time on Tuesday,
and then we'll go for Mayor and I'll be coffeed
up almost every day, David, what's up man?

Speaker 9 (54:04):
Yeah, Doug, I want to respond to Rick's comment about
shotguns and open sites. My first ear I killed my
first year with a shotgun open sites and first.

Speaker 8 (54:16):
Gun I ever owned.

Speaker 9 (54:17):
And I think you and I and Rick are probably
on the edge of that last generation where if you
owned a gun, it was probably a shotgun because that's
all you needed to kill, to kill anything in the woods.
That's exactly right, rabbit, squirrels, turkeys, anything. Yeah, And look
at where we've gone today, is you know, now people

(54:38):
are I got to have some we're fighting over calibers.
Calibers bill, And it's just amazing.

Speaker 6 (54:48):
And too.

Speaker 9 (54:48):
Do you owned a shotgun because you you were hunting game.
You weren't just shooting it. You were having to get
close to it enough to kill it, to kill it
with a shotgun. And now now we look at long
range hunting, at shooting deer, at an antelope or whatever
four or five hundred yards away and more. It's amazing
how how the sport has evolved.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Yeah, and it's it's it's originally hunting was a necessity.
If you go back far enough, people had to hunt
because they didn't get to eat meat if they didn't
hunt and they weren't successful, and that has evolved into
it's it's competition now amongst shooters just to see how

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far they can push the envelope and the whole boutique
caliber thing.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
I'm I haven't gotten.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Deep into that because I don't want to invest in
a bunch of more rifles at my age, and I
don't really and I'm probably gonna make some people mad
if I say this, but I'm gonna say it anyway
it does. It doesn't matter to me so long. My
primary goal. If I'm going to shoot a deer, I
want it to fall quick. I want it down. I

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want to be able to walk over to it easily.
I don't want to shoot it so far out that
if I have one little hiccup, or if there's a
gust of wind, that we're going to have to call
out a dog to go find that wounded deer.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
I just want.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
I want to get it done and as quickly and
as humanly as possible, so that that animal is not
going to be just wandering around limping for for years.

Speaker 8 (56:32):
I've never heard that.

Speaker 9 (56:33):
I've never heard that term boutique calendar caliber. But I
love it, and I'll close you. There's that well known
scene in My Cousin Vinny where he is he's trying
to he's trying to decide what type of pants he
wants to wear, and his fiance says, you know, as
a deer going to really care what kind of pants

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you have on when you shoot it, And I think
the same is true now these as you say, boutique calivers,
deer don't care. I mean dead is dead?

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Yeah, yeah, And it's again. It's it's kind of like
fishing lures.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
If they don't make new colors of fishing lures, people
don't buy new lures. And so the gun industry has
had to accommodate the demand for something new and different.
And everybody's got preferences. Some people like to wear leather pants,
some people like to wear Back in the day, we
wore parachute pants. For God's sakes, going to the disco.

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You know, yeah, you're laughing because you warm too, didn't you?

Speaker 1 (57:37):
I know you did. They wouldn't look the same on us, now,
would they.

Speaker 9 (57:41):
David, I'm thinking about some of the colors we wore.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Oh God, I need a bigger parachute too, tell you
that right now, all right, Yeah, thank you, David.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
I'll see man oh Mercy, Yeah, thank you, Frankie.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Yeah, it's I have no quarrel with anybody wanting to
own and enjoy shooting as many different rifles as they can.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
And that's perfectly fine by me. As long as you're
not taking food off the table for your family and
you're buying another rifle.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Good, let's go to the range and shoot. I'll be
happy to meet you there. I'll go out there and
shoot as much as I can.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
I enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
I do, and I just don't own as many rifles
as a lot of my friends.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
I own more than I'm more than most probably, but
not that many, because I still look at them as
more tools than works of art or whatever you want
to call it, other than just a tool the tool.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
A hammer hits nails into wood, a rifle kills animals
to eat or in some cases, well yeah, let's just
leave it at that. And so as long as my
tool works and works, well, I'm not gonna go not
gonna go bear hunting with a twenty two.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Oh by the way, J T. K weighed in from
down at Shooter's corner.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Jay's listening this morning, and when the conversation was about
open sites. He has got a cape buffalo, to his credit,
shot over in Africa, and he shot that animal with
an open sided rifle, to which I responded, if I
were gonna hunt a cape buffalo, I would want open
sites too. I don't want to have to find it

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in a scope. I don't want to look up and
have that thing running at me and me trying to
figure out where the dog one thing is in the scope.
I also put my weapon of preference would be a
shoulder mounted grenade launcher, because I don't I don't want
any questions about whether that animal's going down. That's that's

(59:54):
one of the handful in the world that would like
nothing more than just to stomp you into the mud
if you if you're bothering it at all. By the way,
shifting gears a little bit, I'm gonna go back to
word I got from Lane Rix, the guy who runs
Meadowrook Farms golf course out there on Off ninety nine
at Fry Road. He and his grandson Aiden were up

(01:00:15):
at Lake Livingston this past weekend. Anyway, his grandson, he
and his grandson out bass fishing and his grandson, Aiden
caught himself one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
I mean, just a pig of a bass, a big fish.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
It's that fish has got to be I'm guessing it's
pushing seven, maybe even eight pounds. And I don't know
how old Aiden is or how strong he is, but
he's doing everything he can to hold that fish up
for a picture. So hats off to Aiden. And best
of all, this was my favorite part. I keep reading,
I keep reading, and then down toward the bottom Lane noted.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
That Aiden caught that fish.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
You'll you'll appreciate this Frankie on a lure with barblous
hooks and there he goes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Barbless data. Boy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Aiden, don't let anybody make you throw hooks with barbs
on them, because if one of those comes back and
hits you, if one of them comes back, it hits
one of your buddies, Now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
You got to stop fishing. Everybody's got a drug.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Let's all get out of the boat, hook it up
and drive to the emergency clinic so we can get
that hook pulled out of your whatever. No, man, just
mash those barbs down. You don't have to cut them off,
you don't have to file them off. That can compromise
the hook a little bit. Just take your needle those
flyers it's down really hard. Maybe wobble the thing back

(01:01:33):
and forth to make sure that when you run your
finger either way across that barb, it doesn't stop.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
It just smooth as glass.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
I've talked about it before, but I'll say it one
more time, since we're right at the bottom of the hour.
It's been about a month and a half ago now,
probably six weeks since I actually got a hook on
a crank bait buried in the soft tissue between my
bicep and my tricep on my left arm. This thing
just came out of the water, came out of a mouth.
I don't remember exactly I think it. I think a

(01:02:02):
fish threw it, like one out of a hundred to
do this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
And it comes up and I mean it smacks me
in that upper arm.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
And I looked down and the lure is just dangling there,
and the hook is buried all the way to the bend.
And I just told myself, Okay, this is it, this
is it. I put your money where your mouth is, Doug.
You ought to be able to just grab that hook
and just slide it right back out from where it
went in if you did that barb mashing thing right,

(01:02:31):
and I just kind of crossed my fingers on my
left hand because I couldn't use it to get the
hook out. I reached up, I pinched the base of
that hook with my thumb and index finger backed it
out and it was literally it came out as though
it were a hot knife coming out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Of a stick of butter, and didn't feel.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
A thing, didn't have any issues, no tissue torn, no nothing.
It's like getting an injection, just like a needle backing
out of there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
That's all it was. So if you want to make
sure that all your trips with your kids and your
friends and family, all those fishing trips go well and
at least for at least that part of.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Them, that and a couple of PFDs, it go a
long ways toward making sure everybody gets home safe and sound.
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety Email
me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Good heavens, it's break time again, but I like talking
about this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
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of the best Mexican food you'll ever put in your mouth.
Outstanding fish tacos, outstanding seafood enchiladas.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
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Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
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Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
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ninety The Dug Pinkes Show. Thank you for listening. Certainly
do appreciate it. What a wonderful word world.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
We live in so much good stuff going on, especially
to be an outdoorsman and live in Texas.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
I'm gonna I'm gonna go first. Excuse me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
First, I have to get to Rudy's email, which I
promised I would mention thirty minutes ago and got sidetracked.
Every time I was about to do that, Rudy emailed
a little while ago. Let me put my glasses on
te you exactly when he sent it. I see it
eight forty five, almost an hour ago. But the long
story short is Rudy kind of went in and said, well,
at least we don't live down in Florida where frozen

(01:05:05):
iguanas are falling out of the trees. And that's a
real thing in Florida. There are so many iguanas that
have been cut loose. What happens is, it's kind of
like the way Eurasian collared doves got all the way
over to here. Those doves were actually part of the

(01:05:26):
pet trade over in the Bahamas, and the Behavian people
who were buying those doves one at a time from
the pet stores were taking them down or taking them
home and realizing that when you put one Eurasian collar
dove in a cage all by itself.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
All it does all day long, is all day all
night looking for a mate.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
And so rather than go buy another one of those things,
thinking oh my gosh, we.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Don't want that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Number one, we don't want both of them cooping back
and forth to each other. Number two, we don't want
baby doves, they just opened the cage and open the
window and let them fly away. And enough of them
got up high enough to see the US mainland, or
maybe just caught the right wind that they landed in
Florida and have expanded their range all the way over
to here.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Fast forward back to the iguanas.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
The iguanas are part of the pet trade as well,
a lot of people in Florida buying their iguanas. They
get bigger than most people thought they ever would, and
they get kind of hard to manage, kind of hard
to keep in the cage, So they open the cage.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
They let them go. One thing leads to another.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
The iguanas find each other, romance blossoms, and now they've
got iguanas all over the place. And there are pest
control companies that make darn good livings removing and I'll
wrap that in quotes about the same way that they
would remove groaches or fire ants, only it takes a

(01:07:03):
little more fire power to do it. But there are
professional iguana hunters all over Florida now pellet guns, so
they're not gonna you're not gonna have bullets flying through
windows a half a mile away. They're very accurate, they're
very careful, very good there. And they're dogs. They use
dogs to go retrieve them. It's just it's an amazing thing.

(01:07:23):
But when they get cold snaps, these iguanas, because they're
cold blooded animals, they're lizards, cold blooded animals. They're up
in a tree and it gets colder and colder and colder,
and all of a sudden, they just it's almost like
they pass out. But their metabolism has just slowed to
the point with that there's no muscle reflex or anything,
and they just a little breeze and they just fall out.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Of a tree at the ground. So we don't have
to worry about walking through the woods and having an
iguana land on our backs, not like the lizard that
crawled across my leg yesterday morning. I'm telling you, Frankie,
that's real. It was dark and so helped me. If
I hadn't known that the lizard was there, because I'd

(01:08:06):
seen it the day before, when that thing crawled across
my leg while I'm driving trying to get on the freeway,
that would have that would a kind of spit.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
I'd have been calling that paranormal caught on camera. Show
see if I could tell my story. There's a ghost
in here, A little grimlin, little the little padded feet
just ran about.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
It didn't run far on my leg, it kind of
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
I think where it first got on was up about
three or four inches up the hem of my shorts,
and it was running from my hip down toward my knee.
And when it hit my knee, I'm pretty sure it
just jumped and hit the floorboard.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
I didn't step on it. I didn't. I didn't know
where it was. I just kind of froze. But at
least I knew what it was, because if I hadn't,
it would have been terrifying, absolutely terrifying. But I live
through it. It's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety. We
got to take a little break here, wrap it up,
and when we get back, I'll probably have time for
a caller too.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
I'm still looking for I want one new caller, just
one brand new, never called the show before. I know
you're sitting out there. It's not hard to do. Call me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Tell me the best outdoor story you had from this year,
this past year, not this year. It's been too short. Uh,
give it a time to give it time to unfold.
What is your best twenty twenty five outdoor story? It's
all I want one new caller seven one three two
one two five seven nine zero.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Put it in the phone.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
At some point, I'm gonna say something this year that's
going to really make you mad, or really make you
think or whatever, and.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
I would love for you respond.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
This duck thing, I hope, I really do hope that
it gathers momentum, it gains traction, and at some point
that needs to be shut down because it genuinely has
altered the flyway.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
And hunting is one thing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
That's okay, but when you start looking at this from
the potential repercussion of disease wiping out tens of thousands
of ducks and possibly geese as well, that really needs
to be put on the front burner. Along with everybody's

(01:10:24):
concerns about duck hunting in different parts of the country.
Louisiana duck hunters not doing much good, Texas duck hunters
not having a lot of luck. And now, granted, I
talked in early in the program about how duck hunting,
goose hunting, any kind of recreational hunting and fishing, is
not about how much meat you bring home. Really, it

(01:10:45):
typically is not. I don't know many duck hunters who
would miss a meal because they didn't get any ducks
one morning. But it is a heck of a lot
more fun and a lot more easy to justify the
expense in the early alarm and the cold nowte weather sometimes,
which by the way, isn't always conducive to great duck hunting.
Some of the best duck and goose photographs you'll ever

(01:11:06):
see at any outfitters album or at a web page
after the hunt. The guys are standing around in T shirts,
maybe even in short pants. It's just a matter of
where you are at the right time, under the right circumstances. Okay,
let me get back up here. Let's go here. Hey John,
what's up. I'm gonna go ahead and take your call.
I didn't realize you guys were on the line looked

(01:11:27):
up there. I'm staring at my screen.

Speaker 11 (01:11:28):
I ne to wait real long. So I am not
ducker and I have never duck hunted, and I don't
want to because I don't need another obsession.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
I'm afraid that's a legitimate answer.

Speaker 11 (01:11:40):
You know what I mean? Oh, I do, okay, But
I heard you mention about up in the Northwest they
flood green fields to attract the ducks, but you can't
do it here, or something like that. But I thought
on migratory game hunting, the rules were at the federal level,
and it's the same at so how can they do

(01:12:03):
it up there? But if I understood you correctly, you
can't do it here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
It's the Northwest and the Midwest where this practice has
been going on now since nineteen ninety nine, when the
Fish and Wildlife Service removed an enforcement mechanism I'm reading
from Senator Kennedy's release that previously restricted the growth of
hunting over intentionally flooded standing crops, particularly corn. And the

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long and the short of it is, you've got all
these corn fields that, as Mojo pointed out, there's really
no benefit to the farmer to plow it all and
that used to cost them a lot of time and money.
So they were leaving it standing a little bit, and
then all of a sudden, somebody said, well, man, if
the ducks will hang around and eat that corn, why
don't we just flood the cornfield so they can sleep

(01:12:50):
and eat right in the same spot. And that's what
they started doing thanks to this little caveat that was
added to the Migratory Bird Tree Reform Act that was
enacted back in nineteen ninety eight.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
And it's not like I.

Speaker 11 (01:13:05):
Said, but you do that here, you cannot do that
in Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
You cannot hunt ducks over baited fields. And that's where
it's a slippery thing, is we don't we don't flood
cornfields down here.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
Rice fields get flooded.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
And like David Pruitt from Riceland Waterfowl Club mentioned earlier,
he had a field, a rice field that actually just
came back. It was just a second growth that was
never intended to grow, and the federal authorities would not
let him manipulate that that crop to make it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
Better duck hunting.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
So yeah, that that's been going on up there in
the Midwest and the Northwest for a very long time now.

Speaker 11 (01:13:46):
Since wat cornfields if it's such an advantage.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
But well, mostly because our prairie is so flat, you
would have to you'd have to build a dyke around it,
and that wouldn't be cost effective.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
There's a lot of reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Plus we just we've never really experienced how bad.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
We didn't never.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
I don't think anybody ever thought it would be this
bad and impact the migration, the entire migrant. The whole
flyway has been interrupted. It stops basically north of Texas,
and there's not that many ducks coming down here anymore
that the stat from Louisiana our mallard stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
There's not that many mallards that come down the Central Flyway.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
And when I was a guide on during the best
years of the Katie Prairie, I only saw mallards in
an extremely cold winter. If it was a warm winter,
we hardly had any at all. If it was a
colder winter, you could go to some of these little
potholes and little tiny little farm tanks and sit there
for a morning and have six or eight groups of

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mallards come in there, and then some teal and whatnot.
But the mallard migration through the Mississippi flyway is such
that it, like I said earlier, it not The Louisiana
dollard harvest down five percent in twenty years, ninety five
percent right after that stuff started happening.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
And that's not coincidence. Yeah, it's a mess.

Speaker 11 (01:15:10):
Well then, how okay, I'll you launch another thought if
you got a second? Sure, how come if you can't
quote manipulate a field for that? How come people plant
milo then shred it and hunt doves over it? Isn't
that same thing?

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
That's a good question. It's a good question.

Speaker 11 (01:15:26):
Yeah, and that's that's I know, allowed.

Speaker 7 (01:15:28):
I don't.

Speaker 11 (01:15:29):
I have a hundred doves three times in my life.
But you know the first thing somebody asked, but well.

Speaker 7 (01:15:34):
Did they shred the milo field?

Speaker 10 (01:15:35):
I go, can you do that?

Speaker 8 (01:15:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:15:37):
We all do that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
Yeah, it's it's gotten.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
It might be time to just take us a hard
hearted look at all of these baiting and migratory bird
acts and see what we can fix. I got to
go to a break. I know Frank's tapping his foot
pretty hard because we.

Speaker 11 (01:15:52):
Run super late that if we talk about it, if
we talk about it anymore, I want a duck hunt
and I do not want.

Speaker 4 (01:15:57):
To do that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
You're gonna need a lot of decoys. You're gonna need
a He's go call Will David.

Speaker 10 (01:16:01):
More time, more money, more guns.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Yeah Ka.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
It goes with us saying all right, man, thanks Sean,
take a break a audios man, Holy cow, I'm running late.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
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(01:17:20):
is this thing looking kind of dull?

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
Oh? I know, I bet my battery's love. No, the
battery's fine. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
For some reason, it just looks like it's a little
bit darker screen than it was before.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
That's about right. Seven one three two one two five
seven ninety last chance and looking at my inbox, Holy cow,
I do get a lot. I get fewer than I
used to.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
I used to be on the lists of several people,
all all of us in media. Everybody who talks on
a microphone basically, uh is on a million lists.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
Maybe two million, I'm not really sure.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
But the long and the short of it is we
we get things often that are of zero interest. I
used to get for some reason, Frankie, I think I
may have mentioned this before once or twice, I don't know,
since you've been around all of the Paris fashion shows,
the New York fashion shows, and when it was Fashion

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Week and one of these Milan all of that. I
would get all the latest from all the world's best designers.
And I'm just hitting unsubscribe, unsubscribe, unsubscribed, unsubscribed, constantly trying
to get rid of that stuff and knock on wood.
I hope I don't jinx myself now. I haven't gotten
any of that lately, and I'm kind of glad because

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the last few things I've seen coming out of those
areas where it's supposed to be the hottest, newest fashion trends,
it's just weird to me. You ever seen some of
that stuff? My cousin works in it?

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
Does he?

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Really? Yeah? She works in it in New York. She
I'm sorry, I apologize, A designer or just in that industry. Yeah,
just in that industry.

Speaker 5 (01:18:59):
She's like producer and does like runway shows and all
this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
I'll see all that every now and again. Have you
ever been to one? I haven't yet. I haven't yet.
I haven't either, No intention, I'll take that back.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
There was some bachelor auction years and years ago when
I was a bachelor and in this business, and I
got invited to participate, and I had to dress up
and walk down and I can't remember how much somebody
paid to go out on a date with me, but
it was a significant amount of that made me feel
pretty good. It wasn't like ten bucks. I would have

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felt cheap. I would have done it for ten bucks,
but yeah, it was. It was a big fundraiser, and
that helped all of us who were in line for
that cattle call to feel good about ourselves. They weren't
really doing that for us, they were doing it for
the cost, and that's perfectly fine with me. I'm scrolling
through these emails. Let's see, man, it's been such fun

(01:19:57):
being back in here.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
I can't lie. I do enjoy being in here.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
I really do get that coffee rolling through me right
when I get here. Still a little bit, I sure
wish I could go back to sleep, but I would
rather be sitting here doing this, talking to all of
you guys and hearing from you as well. And hey,
it's if it's email that makes you more comfortable. Rudy's
that way. I don't know that Rudy and I have

(01:20:22):
ever talked. I think maybe once he might have called.
I was talking to Frankie about that during the break
a little while ago. But he's not a frequent caller,
but he sure makes some great contributions by email, and
so if that's more your style, that's fine too. I
check him as often as I can. Alan Wade in
this is kind of bizarre out in San Francisco. There's

(01:20:46):
an advertisement that got noticed and I'm not going to
tell you exactly why, but this guy offers squatter removal services,
and based on what Alan wrote that accompanied the ad,
he's not playing around. That's something I hope we never
need here, but that's kind of crazy. John Wighed in

(01:21:08):
this I like a lot. So My first deer I
shot was thirty thirty Marlin Open Sites nearly forty years ago.
I wonder if John has taken any more deer in
the last twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Years with that thirty thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
I'd be kind of curious to see if he sticks
with it. And a lot for me, if I'm gonna
if I'm gonna have a comfortable opportunity to shoot open sites,
I need to know that I'll have chances at least
or at least the setup will be such that I
might get a shot inside one hundred yards.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
And if I can get inside one.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Hundred, I'm pretty comfortable lifting up that thirty thirty and
slinging one out there. Thirty thirty is an old kind
of a brush gun. It'll have bullets heavy enough and
lumbering out there fast enough that it'll cut through a
little bit of stuff if it has to, and still
hit the target and do the job. Some of the

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lighter bullets tend to bounce off a twig, and they're
moving so fast it doesn't take much to knock them
off course. And that's why it's just so important to
make sure you've got a clean shot, not at the
the shape of the animal hiding behind tall grass, but
at the animal itself. Is if you don't, you're gonna

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at best maybe just clean miss the deer, and at
worst had that bullet deflect and like I was talking
about earlier, hit that animal in a place where it's
not gonna go down right away and may just run off.
I don't know that I've talked about it in a
long time, but there's stock also in making sure that
you don't take off too early to go chase a

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deer that's down. You got to let them just let
kind of nature take its course, and hopefully the deer
just dies quickly wherever it went down. But if you
go out too soon and go looking for that deer
and go stomping through the woods and spook it while
it still got adrenaline course and through its body and
it has half a pulse, it may run another half

(01:23:16):
a mile before it finally falls.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
We don't want that happening. Oh, by the way, I
heard back from EDARIGGI.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Uh, they don't do the threading of barrels for suppressors
at American shooting centers. However, Ed recommends Bridley Manufacturing, and
I would have to agree that's that's a good place
to start. Back in the day a million years ago.
I knew just Bridley when he was still making choke
tubes in his garage, and that that's turned into a

(01:23:43):
really fine, fine place to go talk about guns, to
go look at new shotguns and do whatever you want
to do. A wonderful company. Uh, let's go to Faux Pro,
shall we I got him, I got him, I got em.
Oh Pro, give you a minute and a half what
you got.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
Hey, I don't need that much, I don't think. But
not related to what you've been talking about today with
the cornfields and stuff like that. And if I can
find the link, I'll send it to you so you
can watch it. But uh, without saying his name, a
famous country singer. Of course they got access to all
this wonderful property. He took the duck Commander crew, you know,
Willie Roberts in his.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
Eyes, out to this flooded cornfield.

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
From us. From a drone view of it, it's like
maybe they knocked down enough to make a hole in
the cornfield. Flooded cornfield. So these are non duck hunter people,
if you get my drift and standing out there just
randomly on the side of the hole and just no
decoys and wearing them out, and they're just coming to it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
Of course, coming to it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
The whole scene. That's not that's not baiting, you know,
I don't, I don't know. Yeah, they were coming to
it hard.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
So yeah, hopefully this is going to open a few
eyes and the get the Fishing Wildlife Service interested at
least in having a discussion about rethinking what they did
twenty years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Twenty five years ago. What a mess, I hope. So, yeah,
I do too.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
Many years ago I used to hunt on a little
I used to hunt on the island, about a thirty
bout thirty island. Yeah, and uh, after the last dead
duck season, we would go out the following the weekend
as an experiment. I told you I knew the game one.
I told me we're going to do this. I covered
that island in ten bags of corns a week after
the season closed as an experiment, and we went back

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to that two weeks later. And you couldn't count the
gadwall that busted out of that home. So that tells
you the power a bay just two weeks, no doubt,
three hundred ducks in there.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
Yeah, that's crazy man.

Speaker 8 (01:25:42):
All right, I got a bounce the whole season, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
But I hate to do it too. Yeah, I'll talk
to you soon.

Speaker 9 (01:25:47):
You're five.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
Uh huh, audience, all.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
Right, very quickly, suppress or cost and threading and all that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
And didn't tell you the cost.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
What Ed said is it's about one hundred and fifty bucks,
which is reasonable when you figure what you're going to
get for that, and when you get that suppressor on
there and it just changes everything.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
They're really cool. I gotta get some. That's it for
this week.