January 25, 2026 • 11 mins
Replayed on January 25, 2026. Doug's insightful interview with David Pruett, owner of Riceland Waterfowl Club, for your listening pleasure.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm gonna go straight to this phone and get David
Prute on the phone.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
David from Riceley and Waterfowl Club.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
So have you seen have you seen this deal that
Senator Kennedy from Louisiana put out? The press release he
put out, and what he told the federal uh, the
Fish and Wildlife Service.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Oh yes, that's very good. Had he done it?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I this It may be a day late and a
dollar short, but honest to goodness, if anybody you and
I know and we know a lot of people who
waterfowl hunt, if any one of them was thinking about
selling their decoys, no, hang on to them, because things
are about to change. I got a hunch Kennedy's gonna
flip this thing around and fix this.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
That's about time I hitn't it though?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I've got some others. Oh, I've got some other information
he could use. You know, when farmers do this, because
I have farmed as a farmer for several years, you
have to sign up everything with the FSA office, that's
the Farmer Service Agency right now, that's a that's a
that's a federal government doccument. When you sign it, let's say,
(01:02):
they say you got to have it which farm number
you farming get on? Now? Which track number in there?
And it also tells you how many acres is in
that track. They already know. You say, okay, I'm going
to do three hundred and fifty acres of corn, and
so you you plan it and you only harvest three
hundred acres and didn't harvest the other that's against the law.
That's that simple. Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
So how have they been doing this for so long?
And yeah, that's you know, there's a lot of questions
to ask Arthur.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Oh, a bunch of questions. And it has been a
big thing, you know, up north. And I understand some
of it is these people that's got plenty of money.
And I'm glad people do have plenty of money, because
that's what helps the world around here.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
It is.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
But they're going in with these big high fences and
places and farming just for ducks and stuff. And that's
perfectly legal. If you're just farming just for ducks and
not trying to harvest it, that's perfectly legal. But it's
starting to get to the point it's wiping out the
normal guys for public honey.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, yeah, well public and even down here, even Lise honey,
kind of like what you run.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
You know, it hurts everybody.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
The the one that really knocked me all out of
my chair almost was the statistic that he gave on
Louisiana's mallard count.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Do you if you see that? Let me let me
okay though, Oh.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, So here's the deal, and I'll let you try
to fill in the blank, just like I let Frankie.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I'll just read it.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
It says, mallard harvest in the state of Louisiana dropped
x percent from nineteen ninety nine to twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
What do you think that percentage was.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Five for every one hundred mallards they were killing in
nineteen ninety eight. Now they're killing five. Imagine that? And
that Now that explains so much, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Oh, it's massive abounts.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, it's just and they And I really do think
that when he gets hold of something, he doesn't let go.
And I'm truly hoping that he can get some committee
hearings going and whatever it takes in Washington, I don't care.
But this is a serious issue, and thank goodness, there's
guys like you and me and everybody will get involved
(03:20):
in this to keep talking about it, right to your congressman,
right to everybody you can, right to the Fish and
Wildlife Service, tell them you're tired of getting ripped off
by people up north who deliberately flood corn, and.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I just don't like it. That's baiting. If we did
that down here, we'd go to jail prison.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Oh yeah, they Oh yeah. I mean I had a
rise field that they did not do second crop on
will it come back, volunteer, and they would not let
me manipulate it. Okay, that's volunteer.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
No, And yeah, it's just like weeds growing in the
yard at that point.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Right. Well, the next year it grew back again because
they had a wet spring and it grew back on solid,
just like it did the first time as a regular
trump and they still would not let me manipulate it.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Holy ket.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
So let's say something about Texas Parks of Old Life.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Be careful, be nice to them. They do a very
good job for what they got. Okay, good, yeah, yeah,
so what you got?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Well, uh, I'm not saying nothing bad about them. First off,
I just kind of everybody has the right to agree
or disagree, of course, but I you know, if what
we were missing down here in the South is more
sanctuaries are let's call them refuge not refugees, but roosting
areas or safe zones, you know, yeah, or you're not hunting,
(04:40):
right They used to be everywhere.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
That's a good point back, yeah, back when I was guiding,
there were there were roost ponds everywhere, and nobody hunted them.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Right. Well, it's hard to find a place or farmers
or other landowners that'll allow you to do such, you know,
to plump water or keep it, you know, in there
for a sanctuary only with nobody around it. Texas Parks
a wildlife and I don't know who come up with it.
I'm sure the biologists and all their top people did,
but I'm going to give some reality to it. They
(05:09):
say that the pintael will fly eleven miles to feet.
I agree, all right, so you don't need a sanctuary,
but every eleven miles. Now, this is where I come
in disagreement. You know, I travel fifty miles to go
get something to eat every now and then, but I
don't do it every day. I go as close to
home as I can, sure, but eleven miles that is
(05:29):
equivalent to putting a sanctuary in the middle of downtown
Houston and saying or roost area and saying that worldly
going is good enough to cover the inside of sixten Loop.
Now is that big enough area? One sainctuary in the middle.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Wow? No, not really.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Okay, Now let's get to the reality of it. It's
from downtown Houston all the way out to felt Way
eight Conference.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, now that's that's what's the born reality. That's not
enough of them.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, we need a lot more roost area. And the
rooster area has to be monitored too. For just like
I was talking about earlier before I called you up
for av and collra stuff like that, there has to
be And we had all those eyes and vehicles driving
around and observing and looking when that was a very
robust waterfowl hunting area from down where you are all
(06:22):
the way up to Katie Man there you could ride
around and bump into one hundred trucks guys riding around
scouting and looking and seeing what was going.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
On out there.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Exactly. I think we just need more stuff. I've thought
about starting the Texas Waterfowl Alliance to get people involved,
not just guys are outfitters, but the general public involved,
and what is better for the state of Texas. How
to do this Well, I was going to do this
thirty years ago and never done it, and I still
have it in the back of my mind. So we
(06:52):
could get some people from the state of Texas like
they do in Louisiana other states. This is what we're missing,
This is what we should be doing. Present it to
our Congress. When presented to you.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
That yeah, oh no, come back you there.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Oh good, Yeah, it's just it's just reality. For I
think it needs to be happening in the state.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Let's do Let's do this, David, make me a promise
that you will bring this Texas Waterfowl Alliance a little
bit more to the four and then let's have some
conversations about getting it started, because I can probably gather
a pretty good crew of people and not everybody's going
to have the same opinion. We don't want to all
be little robots saying the same thing. We want to
have a lot of bands, sharing of ideas and what
(07:37):
will work, what won't work, what might work, what could work,
and then focus on Texas waterfol It's time.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, I think it needs to be from public land
to private land roads.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Well, you know as well as I do.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Most of it's going to be private land because that's
what Texas is, and that really with the right with
the right people pushing something, there's the opportunity to get
things done faster, I think on private land than on
public lands. Right exactly, All right, man, exactly, You and
I we're in it for the long haul, buddy, You know.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
That, man. Sure, and it can come back. Everybody says
it won't, but it can come back if John Kerry
and everything he's doing will help push this through and
stop a lot of what's been going on.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, this guy Kennedy is gonna I think he's gonna
be the I mean, no, I understood that. That's not
a problem. Hey man, it wouldn't be the first time
I said the wrong name on this show. Holy cow exactly.
Oh man, the older I get, the worse it gets too.
In any event, with him taking this up and sending
(08:45):
this it's kind of a notice, really, not even a
press release to the Fishy Wildlife Service if they messed up,
and they need to fess up and concede that what
they did in nineteen ninety eight and what they did
again in eighteen ninety nine to take that enforcement stuff
out of it.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
That was wrong.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It was a mistake, and they got to own it
and they got to fix it. And if we put
enough pressure on them, you know, votes count, man, votes count.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, sure it does. And everybody's entitled the mistakes. I mean,
this is something that happened. They thought it was a
good idea at the time, but they let it go
on too far, and look where it's got us. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I really do feel like somebody convinced them with their
fingers crossed behind their back, that those birds needed some
sustenance on the way.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
During their big, long migration.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
But like I said earlier before I started talking to you,
those ducks had been doing.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
That for a thousand year, ten thousand years.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
They don't need they don't need a convenience store on
the highway to wherever they're going.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
They can just get on the highway and drive and right.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah. Man, if God can create a duck and he
can go from a nesting habitat all the way to
the south as far as he feels he needs to
go naturally and turn around and make it all the
way back up north, he can handle what he's looking for.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Phenomenal, isn't it when you stop and think about that.
We can't get to the we can't get to the
grocery store without GPS.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
You know that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I mean, really, I know a lot of people who
probably couldn't. It's just stunning how how inadequately we are
prepared for real world stuff like that was. And I'm
not talking about going back to cave man days. I'm
talking about just going back to no electronics. Can you
imagine leaving home without your phone?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Now?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
No, couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, and all these places back when I was guiding
all over the prairie, just riding all over the place
and having a great time, and and you'd get directions
and you'd write them down. You go two miles to
this road, and you take a left, and you go
to the where the big tree used to be, and
you take a right, and you'd get there eventually, and
if you didn't, you'd have to stop at somebody's house
(10:53):
and use their phone.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Ye, All right, David, keep you keep your chin up
out there, and keep your head down and your chin up,
and we'll get some ducks at some point.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
And we'll all be better for it. I know it. Man,
you've been in it fifty years. You know what it is.
You know what it is, sir.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
The roller coaster put some heads together.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah I like that, I really do. All Right, have
a good one, yes, sir, you too,
I'm gonna go straight to this phone and get David
Prute on the phone.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
David from Riceley and Waterfowl Club.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
So have you seen have you seen this deal that
Senator Kennedy from Louisiana put out? The press release he
put out, and what he told the federal uh, the
Fish and Wildlife Service.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Oh yes, that's very good. Had he done it?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I this It may be a day late and a
dollar short, but honest to goodness, if anybody you and
I know and we know a lot of people who
waterfowl hunt, if any one of them was thinking about
selling their decoys, no, hang on to them, because things
are about to change. I got a hunch Kennedy's gonna
flip this thing around and fix this.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
That's about time I hitn't it though?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I've got some others. Oh, I've got some other information
he could use. You know, when farmers do this, because
I have farmed as a farmer for several years, you
have to sign up everything with the FSA office, that's
the Farmer Service Agency right now, that's a that's a
that's a federal government doccument. When you sign it, let's say,
(01:02):
they say you got to have it which farm number
you farming get on? Now? Which track number in there?
And it also tells you how many acres is in
that track. They already know. You say, okay, I'm going
to do three hundred and fifty acres of corn, and
so you you plan it and you only harvest three
hundred acres and didn't harvest the other that's against the law.
That's that simple. Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
So how have they been doing this for so long?
And yeah, that's you know, there's a lot of questions
to ask Arthur.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Oh, a bunch of questions. And it has been a
big thing, you know, up north. And I understand some
of it is these people that's got plenty of money.
And I'm glad people do have plenty of money, because
that's what helps the world around here.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
It is.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
But they're going in with these big high fences and
places and farming just for ducks and stuff. And that's
perfectly legal. If you're just farming just for ducks and
not trying to harvest it, that's perfectly legal. But it's
starting to get to the point it's wiping out the
normal guys for public honey.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, yeah, well public and even down here, even Lise honey,
kind of like what you run.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
You know, it hurts everybody.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
The the one that really knocked me all out of
my chair almost was the statistic that he gave on
Louisiana's mallard count.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Do you if you see that? Let me let me
okay though, Oh.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, So here's the deal, and I'll let you try
to fill in the blank, just like I let Frankie.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I'll just read it.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
It says, mallard harvest in the state of Louisiana dropped
x percent from nineteen ninety nine to twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
What do you think that percentage was.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Five for every one hundred mallards they were killing in
nineteen ninety eight. Now they're killing five. Imagine that? And
that Now that explains so much, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Oh, it's massive abounts.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, it's just and they And I really do think
that when he gets hold of something, he doesn't let go.
And I'm truly hoping that he can get some committee
hearings going and whatever it takes in Washington, I don't care.
But this is a serious issue, and thank goodness, there's
guys like you and me and everybody will get involved
(03:20):
in this to keep talking about it, right to your congressman,
right to everybody you can, right to the Fish and
Wildlife Service, tell them you're tired of getting ripped off
by people up north who deliberately flood corn, and.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I just don't like it. That's baiting. If we did
that down here, we'd go to jail prison.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Oh yeah, they Oh yeah. I mean I had a
rise field that they did not do second crop on
will it come back, volunteer, and they would not let
me manipulate it. Okay, that's volunteer.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
No, And yeah, it's just like weeds growing in the
yard at that point.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Right. Well, the next year it grew back again because
they had a wet spring and it grew back on solid,
just like it did the first time as a regular
trump and they still would not let me manipulate it.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Holy ket.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
So let's say something about Texas Parks of Old Life.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Be careful, be nice to them. They do a very
good job for what they got. Okay, good, yeah, yeah,
so what you got?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Well, uh, I'm not saying nothing bad about them. First off,
I just kind of everybody has the right to agree
or disagree, of course, but I you know, if what
we were missing down here in the South is more
sanctuaries are let's call them refuge not refugees, but roosting
areas or safe zones, you know, yeah, or you're not hunting,
(04:40):
right They used to be everywhere.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
That's a good point back, yeah, back when I was guiding,
there were there were roost ponds everywhere, and nobody hunted them.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Right. Well, it's hard to find a place or farmers
or other landowners that'll allow you to do such, you know,
to plump water or keep it, you know, in there
for a sanctuary only with nobody around it. Texas Parks
a wildlife and I don't know who come up with it.
I'm sure the biologists and all their top people did,
but I'm going to give some reality to it. They
(05:09):
say that the pintael will fly eleven miles to feet.
I agree, all right, so you don't need a sanctuary,
but every eleven miles. Now, this is where I come
in disagreement. You know, I travel fifty miles to go
get something to eat every now and then, but I
don't do it every day. I go as close to
home as I can, sure, but eleven miles that is
(05:29):
equivalent to putting a sanctuary in the middle of downtown
Houston and saying or roost area and saying that worldly
going is good enough to cover the inside of sixten Loop.
Now is that big enough area? One sainctuary in the middle.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Wow? No, not really.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Okay, Now let's get to the reality of it. It's
from downtown Houston all the way out to felt Way
eight Conference.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, now that's that's what's the born reality. That's not
enough of them.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, we need a lot more roost area. And the
rooster area has to be monitored too. For just like
I was talking about earlier before I called you up
for av and collra stuff like that, there has to
be And we had all those eyes and vehicles driving
around and observing and looking when that was a very
robust waterfowl hunting area from down where you are all
(06:22):
the way up to Katie Man there you could ride
around and bump into one hundred trucks guys riding around
scouting and looking and seeing what was going.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
On out there.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Exactly. I think we just need more stuff. I've thought
about starting the Texas Waterfowl Alliance to get people involved,
not just guys are outfitters, but the general public involved,
and what is better for the state of Texas. How
to do this Well, I was going to do this
thirty years ago and never done it, and I still
have it in the back of my mind. So we
(06:52):
could get some people from the state of Texas like
they do in Louisiana other states. This is what we're missing,
This is what we should be doing. Present it to
our Congress. When presented to you.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
That yeah, oh no, come back you there.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Oh good, Yeah, it's just it's just reality. For I
think it needs to be happening in the state.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Let's do Let's do this, David, make me a promise
that you will bring this Texas Waterfowl Alliance a little
bit more to the four and then let's have some
conversations about getting it started, because I can probably gather
a pretty good crew of people and not everybody's going
to have the same opinion. We don't want to all
be little robots saying the same thing. We want to
have a lot of bands, sharing of ideas and what
(07:37):
will work, what won't work, what might work, what could work,
and then focus on Texas waterfol It's time.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, I think it needs to be from public land
to private land roads.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Well, you know as well as I do.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Most of it's going to be private land because that's
what Texas is, and that really with the right with
the right people pushing something, there's the opportunity to get
things done faster, I think on private land than on
public lands. Right exactly, All right, man, exactly, You and
I we're in it for the long haul, buddy, You know.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
That, man. Sure, and it can come back. Everybody says
it won't, but it can come back if John Kerry
and everything he's doing will help push this through and
stop a lot of what's been going on.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, this guy Kennedy is gonna I think he's gonna
be the I mean, no, I understood that. That's not
a problem. Hey man, it wouldn't be the first time
I said the wrong name on this show. Holy cow exactly.
Oh man, the older I get, the worse it gets too.
In any event, with him taking this up and sending
(08:45):
this it's kind of a notice, really, not even a
press release to the Fishy Wildlife Service if they messed up,
and they need to fess up and concede that what
they did in nineteen ninety eight and what they did
again in eighteen ninety nine to take that enforcement stuff
out of it.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
That was wrong.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It was a mistake, and they got to own it
and they got to fix it. And if we put
enough pressure on them, you know, votes count, man, votes count.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, sure it does. And everybody's entitled the mistakes. I mean,
this is something that happened. They thought it was a
good idea at the time, but they let it go
on too far, and look where it's got us. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I really do feel like somebody convinced them with their
fingers crossed behind their back, that those birds needed some
sustenance on the way.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
During their big, long migration.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
But like I said earlier before I started talking to you,
those ducks had been doing.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
That for a thousand year, ten thousand years.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
They don't need they don't need a convenience store on
the highway to wherever they're going.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
They can just get on the highway and drive and right.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah. Man, if God can create a duck and he
can go from a nesting habitat all the way to
the south as far as he feels he needs to
go naturally and turn around and make it all the
way back up north, he can handle what he's looking for.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Phenomenal, isn't it when you stop and think about that.
We can't get to the we can't get to the
grocery store without GPS.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
You know that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I mean, really, I know a lot of people who
probably couldn't. It's just stunning how how inadequately we are
prepared for real world stuff like that was. And I'm
not talking about going back to cave man days. I'm
talking about just going back to no electronics. Can you
imagine leaving home without your phone?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Now?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
No, couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, and all these places back when I was guiding
all over the prairie, just riding all over the place
and having a great time, and and you'd get directions
and you'd write them down. You go two miles to
this road, and you take a left, and you go
to the where the big tree used to be, and
you take a right, and you'd get there eventually, and
if you didn't, you'd have to stop at somebody's house
(10:53):
and use their phone.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Ye, All right, David, keep you keep your chin up
out there, and keep your head down and your chin up,
and we'll get some ducks at some point.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
And we'll all be better for it. I know it. Man,
you've been in it fifty years. You know what it is.
You know what it is, sir.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
The roller coaster put some heads together.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah I like that, I really do. All Right, have
a good one, yes, sir, you too,
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