January 11, 2026 • 12 mins
Originally aired on January 11, 2026. Doug's insightful interview with Ed Arrighi, owner of American Shooting Centers, for your listening pleasures.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're gonna shift gears. Now, we're gonna get away from
ducks and well get away from shotguns and go to
rifles and let me get ed ORIGI on the phone
here there he is ed, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Man, Good morning, Doug. How are you this morning?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I'm good, so crisp and cool, and I think the
wind is down? Is it not out there at the range?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah? Edge down a little bit. And what I'm hearing
since you bumped me from eight thirty to nine o'clock
because of a duck story. So what I take out
of that is I shouldn't be sitting here drinking coffee
talking to you. I should be in a duck line.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Maybe not, maybe not. What we're talking about is something
Senator Kennedy from Louisiana has put in front of the
Parks and Water or the Fishing Wildlife Service, the FEDS
about the mess that they made back in the late
nineteen nineties when they said it was okay to flood
cornfields and hunt ducks over Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, so that's that. He's a good guy. He's on
our side. But oh, I know, don't really do everything correctly.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, it'll take a while. So back before the calendar changed.
I had a conversation about suppressors and now that the
calendar has changed, and we knew there'd be a lot
of activity when that happened. But you told me some
numbers the other day about the backlog of applications they've
got at the federal system now since that happened, how
(01:23):
many how many applications are they trying to process?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Still? Well, typically before the new year, they atf processed
about an average of about two thousand, five hundred a day,
and they were getting kind of on top of that.
They were doing a pretty good job. The way times
are coming down quite a bit. Come January first. Fast
(01:48):
forward to January first, one hundred and fifty thousand kis
on day one. Oh my word. So needless say, they
were somewhat taken aback by that. There's a lot of
people that were waiting, but they're doing an excellent job
of waiting through that backlog, and wait times are coming
(02:12):
down significantly. We've had some comeback as early as two
or three days from when they were submitted. It just
kind of depends right now where you fall in in
the pile. The process. It has changed, and it hasn't
changed the process is still the same. However, what went
(02:36):
away was a two hundred dollars fee, which yeah big
for a lot of people. So well, the process is
still kind of the same. They've gotten a really good
handle on how to process them more rapidly, so they're
doing a real good job of that.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
And hear from a mayor con shooting centers on DOUG
Bike Show. Did the prices of suppressors drop or rise
or stay the same with this change?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Everybody's done a really good job. We've held the line
we have. We haven't changed anything. Most all of our
suppliers haven't changed anything. They realized that this is more
a change in the documentation and a lot of people
were trepidacious about it. So everybody's done a good job
(03:28):
of holding the line. We haven't seen any gougeing take
place there. The long and short of a DOUG is
that there are going to be some supply shortages just
because a lot of people are are getting into them
now with this new LASSO, demand is going to go up.
(03:53):
Like I say, prices are staying pretty steady. If if
I had any suggestion for anyone at this time, is
that if you want to go that route, and you
find it suppressor that you like and suit your needs,
and you want the big changes, I wouldn't wait, okay,
(04:14):
I would get If you find something you like and
you have the resources to get that, I would do
it now rather than later. Prices are going to do
nothing but slowly edge up over time. Supplies are going
to do nothing but diminish over time. So if you
feel the time is right for you, now jump on it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I know most of my audience knows at least a
little about these things, ED, But what's your elevator speech
about how suppressors work and how much noise they actually.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Reduce to a lot of people, to a lot of
hunting situations, to a lot of neighbors, to a lot
of farmers. There are godsend. Not really much different than
what has happened over the last few decades in England.
England has a much more progressive stance towards this, and
(05:08):
their suppressions are used in England more as a way
of being neighborly. You're trying not to disturb your neighbors
while you're doing your game control. So the long and shorter,
but it is that they reduced to sound probably seventy
five percent, maybe more than that. I don't know what
(05:30):
the actual statistics are.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
That sounds about right.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
They make it a lot more user friendly, they make
it a lot more neighborly friendly. One of the big
benefits of suppressors is for women and youth shooters in
that they reduce the recoil of the rifle by about
the same by about half or seventy five percent, So
the rifles become much more user friendly, much easier to shoot.
(05:57):
Not only are you getting rid of a lot of
that muzzle blash, you're getting over of a lot of
the recoil that goes along with it. So it's kind
of a real boon to entry level shooters because it
just makes the whole thing a lot more peaceful, a
lot more pleasant.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Sure did I read correctly somewhere several years ago that
adding a suppressor actually increases muscle velocity?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
It can. Again, there's lots of different suppress there's lots
of rifle styles, lots of different muscle devices. But it
definitely can increase muscle blossy to a degree in some situations.
What it does do on even a higher percentage of
situations is it'll take whatever rifle you're shooting it out
(06:45):
of and make it somewhat more accurate. Okay, they are there.
They are an improvement to accuracy as well as being
an improvement to the sound situation.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Just by length of the barrel right.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Or by the baffle, it takes the sonic crack out
of the audible delivery of the thought, and just by
calming that whole moment down, a lot of rifles experience
an improvement and accuracy, which is a boon for everybody.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I had a guy asked me a question, and I
want to ask you. Does putting a suppressor on a
rifle change its value in anyone?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I didn't think so.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, no, no, no it doesn't. If anything, it makes
it threading a bear. If a barrel doesn't come already threaded,
having it threaded for suppressor use these days is actually
an improvements a plus.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
That's a good point because so many people are going
to suppressors that if it's already threaded, then that's something
they don't have to get done.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Makes sense. Yeah, most most new rifles these days come threaded,
and just that a little bit. Not most, but a
lot of piss come threaded these days because adding adding
a suppressor to your favorite handgun, whether it be a
defensive handgun or a sporting handgun or just target shooting handguns.
(08:12):
Far as you know, putting a suppressor on a twenty
two is like getting an E ticket right at the
amusement park. Yeah, they are, so they take out their
twenty two's have almost no recall to begin with. Whatever
was there goes away, whatever sound. They're good and they
don't become silent, but they become more like a cap
(08:33):
gun sure, and they're just really pleasant and fun for
kids and wives and everybody to shoot. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I actually got to shoot a little twenty two with
a suppressor on it many many years ago, and it
surprised me how quiet it was. It was just remarkable.
One other thing, what's the most common end? And I'll
let you go. I know you've got stuff to do
out there's probably a million people out there trying to shoot.
Most common misconception about suppressors.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I think it's mostly about the system involved in doing
it legally that that is not with the improvements in software,
the improvements and suppliers. We have a we work mostly
with a place called Silencer Shop, so we actually have
a silencer shop, video Kiosk in our store, and so
(09:26):
everything that you need to do can be done on site,
from your photo to your fingerprints to filing the necessary
paperwork whether you want to do it as there's two
ways to do it that you can do it as
an individual, where you can do it as a trust,
and that's always a bit of a question mark for people.
You can do both ways work well. Both ways are
(09:47):
equally easy as an individual. The big difference is a
little less expensive, but really you, as that individual, are
the only one that is authorized to use that suppressor,
want to use that suppressor. In a family situation where
friends and relatives can use that suppressor, then a trust
is probably a better way to go, and it's no
(10:09):
more complicated. It's maybe one hundred dollars more expensive total,
but both processes process well and can be done one
hundred percent on site at our place, real quick ed.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
So if I wanted to buy a suppressor and I
filled out the paperwork and it became my suppressor, I
couldn't let my son shoot that rifle.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
And it became your suppressor. If you were in a trust, yes.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
So I So there's no way that just an individual
because you know, and I know that when people go
to the to the ranch, all their friends want to
shoot their suppressed rifle and they.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Do, correct, But but.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Technically that's against the law. Is that what we're dealing with.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It can be okay, law enforcement is present.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yes, yeah, yeah, and it's it's intent, I think. Yeah,
I understand. Like if now, if I were to loan
my rifle too of somebody I met at a bus
stop and and handed them that rifle, then I would
get the trouble I deserved on that. Huh. Yes, yeah,
that's what we're trying to convey here, is Yes, the
(11:24):
law says that if you are going to let anybody
else shoot that, right, And I learned that a long
time ago because I asked to shoot a guy's rifle
one time with a suppressor because I can't it's registered
only to me. And I said, correct, I said, okay,
that's fine. Yeah, I don't want to shoot it in
I'm not going to put you in any.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Because the way the way the laws season by letting
your friend shoot it and let your friend take possession
of it. Oh okay, yeah, And that's and that's the
part that breaks the law.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
That's another that makes very good sense. Uh, you cleared
it up for a lot of people. I would imagine.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Thank you, Ed.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Always a pleasure keep it going out there. I brag
on you so much, ye idea, I really.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Do appreciate it. Well. Yeah, And the main.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Thing I convey is that you're a shooter. You didn't
take it over as a businessman trying to own another business.
And I also I also have let the cat out
of the bag too. That nobody wants to if if
you tell them you'd love to shoot for a couple
of bucks and maybe have some fun, I had to
just keep your hand on your wallet and walk away.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That's what I tell you. All Right, we enjoy what
we do.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I know you're doing your darn good at it too.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Thank you, Ed.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I'll see it man.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Audios
We're gonna shift gears. Now, we're gonna get away from
ducks and well get away from shotguns and go to
rifles and let me get ed ORIGI on the phone
here there he is ed, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Man, Good morning, Doug. How are you this morning?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I'm good, so crisp and cool, and I think the
wind is down? Is it not out there at the range?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah? Edge down a little bit. And what I'm hearing
since you bumped me from eight thirty to nine o'clock
because of a duck story. So what I take out
of that is I shouldn't be sitting here drinking coffee
talking to you. I should be in a duck line.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Maybe not, maybe not. What we're talking about is something
Senator Kennedy from Louisiana has put in front of the
Parks and Water or the Fishing Wildlife Service, the FEDS
about the mess that they made back in the late
nineteen nineties when they said it was okay to flood
cornfields and hunt ducks over Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, so that's that. He's a good guy. He's on
our side. But oh, I know, don't really do everything correctly.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, it'll take a while. So back before the calendar changed.
I had a conversation about suppressors and now that the
calendar has changed, and we knew there'd be a lot
of activity when that happened. But you told me some
numbers the other day about the backlog of applications they've
got at the federal system now since that happened, how
(01:23):
many how many applications are they trying to process?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Still? Well, typically before the new year, they atf processed
about an average of about two thousand, five hundred a day,
and they were getting kind of on top of that.
They were doing a pretty good job. The way times
are coming down quite a bit. Come January first. Fast
(01:48):
forward to January first, one hundred and fifty thousand kis
on day one. Oh my word. So needless say, they
were somewhat taken aback by that. There's a lot of
people that were waiting, but they're doing an excellent job
of waiting through that backlog, and wait times are coming
(02:12):
down significantly. We've had some comeback as early as two
or three days from when they were submitted. It just
kind of depends right now where you fall in in
the pile. The process. It has changed, and it hasn't
changed the process is still the same. However, what went
(02:36):
away was a two hundred dollars fee, which yeah big
for a lot of people. So well, the process is
still kind of the same. They've gotten a really good
handle on how to process them more rapidly, so they're
doing a real good job of that.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
And hear from a mayor con shooting centers on DOUG
Bike Show. Did the prices of suppressors drop or rise
or stay the same with this change?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Everybody's done a really good job. We've held the line
we have. We haven't changed anything. Most all of our
suppliers haven't changed anything. They realized that this is more
a change in the documentation and a lot of people
were trepidacious about it. So everybody's done a good job
(03:28):
of holding the line. We haven't seen any gougeing take
place there. The long and short of a DOUG is
that there are going to be some supply shortages just
because a lot of people are are getting into them
now with this new LASSO, demand is going to go up.
(03:53):
Like I say, prices are staying pretty steady. If if
I had any suggestion for anyone at this time, is
that if you want to go that route, and you
find it suppressor that you like and suit your needs,
and you want the big changes, I wouldn't wait, okay,
(04:14):
I would get If you find something you like and
you have the resources to get that, I would do
it now rather than later. Prices are going to do
nothing but slowly edge up over time. Supplies are going
to do nothing but diminish over time. So if you
feel the time is right for you, now jump on it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I know most of my audience knows at least a
little about these things, ED, But what's your elevator speech
about how suppressors work and how much noise they actually.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Reduce to a lot of people, to a lot of
hunting situations, to a lot of neighbors, to a lot
of farmers. There are godsend. Not really much different than
what has happened over the last few decades in England.
England has a much more progressive stance towards this, and
(05:08):
their suppressions are used in England more as a way
of being neighborly. You're trying not to disturb your neighbors
while you're doing your game control. So the long and shorter,
but it is that they reduced to sound probably seventy
five percent, maybe more than that. I don't know what
(05:30):
the actual statistics are.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
That sounds about right.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
They make it a lot more user friendly, they make
it a lot more neighborly friendly. One of the big
benefits of suppressors is for women and youth shooters in
that they reduce the recoil of the rifle by about
the same by about half or seventy five percent, So
the rifles become much more user friendly, much easier to shoot.
(05:57):
Not only are you getting rid of a lot of
that muzzle blash, you're getting over of a lot of
the recoil that goes along with it. So it's kind
of a real boon to entry level shooters because it
just makes the whole thing a lot more peaceful, a
lot more pleasant.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Sure did I read correctly somewhere several years ago that
adding a suppressor actually increases muscle velocity?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
It can. Again, there's lots of different suppress there's lots
of rifle styles, lots of different muscle devices. But it
definitely can increase muscle blossy to a degree in some situations.
What it does do on even a higher percentage of
situations is it'll take whatever rifle you're shooting it out
(06:45):
of and make it somewhat more accurate. Okay, they are there.
They are an improvement to accuracy as well as being
an improvement to the sound situation.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Just by length of the barrel right.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Or by the baffle, it takes the sonic crack out
of the audible delivery of the thought, and just by
calming that whole moment down, a lot of rifles experience
an improvement and accuracy, which is a boon for everybody.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I had a guy asked me a question, and I
want to ask you. Does putting a suppressor on a
rifle change its value in anyone?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I didn't think so.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, no, no, no it doesn't. If anything, it makes
it threading a bear. If a barrel doesn't come already threaded,
having it threaded for suppressor use these days is actually
an improvements a plus.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
That's a good point because so many people are going
to suppressors that if it's already threaded, then that's something
they don't have to get done.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Makes sense. Yeah, most most new rifles these days come threaded,
and just that a little bit. Not most, but a
lot of piss come threaded these days because adding adding
a suppressor to your favorite handgun, whether it be a
defensive handgun or a sporting handgun or just target shooting handguns.
(08:12):
Far as you know, putting a suppressor on a twenty
two is like getting an E ticket right at the
amusement park. Yeah, they are, so they take out their
twenty two's have almost no recall to begin with. Whatever
was there goes away, whatever sound. They're good and they
don't become silent, but they become more like a cap
(08:33):
gun sure, and they're just really pleasant and fun for
kids and wives and everybody to shoot. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I actually got to shoot a little twenty two with
a suppressor on it many many years ago, and it
surprised me how quiet it was. It was just remarkable.
One other thing, what's the most common end? And I'll
let you go. I know you've got stuff to do
out there's probably a million people out there trying to shoot.
Most common misconception about suppressors.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I think it's mostly about the system involved in doing
it legally that that is not with the improvements in software,
the improvements and suppliers. We have a we work mostly
with a place called Silencer Shop, so we actually have
a silencer shop, video Kiosk in our store, and so
(09:26):
everything that you need to do can be done on site,
from your photo to your fingerprints to filing the necessary
paperwork whether you want to do it as there's two
ways to do it that you can do it as
an individual, where you can do it as a trust,
and that's always a bit of a question mark for people.
You can do both ways work well. Both ways are
(09:47):
equally easy as an individual. The big difference is a
little less expensive, but really you, as that individual, are
the only one that is authorized to use that suppressor,
want to use that suppressor. In a family situation where
friends and relatives can use that suppressor, then a trust
is probably a better way to go, and it's no
(10:09):
more complicated. It's maybe one hundred dollars more expensive total,
but both processes process well and can be done one
hundred percent on site at our place, real quick ed.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
So if I wanted to buy a suppressor and I
filled out the paperwork and it became my suppressor, I
couldn't let my son shoot that rifle.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
And it became your suppressor. If you were in a trust, yes.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
So I So there's no way that just an individual
because you know, and I know that when people go
to the to the ranch, all their friends want to
shoot their suppressed rifle and they.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Do, correct, But but.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Technically that's against the law. Is that what we're dealing with.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It can be okay, law enforcement is present.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yes, yeah, yeah, and it's it's intent, I think. Yeah,
I understand. Like if now, if I were to loan
my rifle too of somebody I met at a bus
stop and and handed them that rifle, then I would
get the trouble I deserved on that. Huh. Yes, yeah,
that's what we're trying to convey here, is Yes, the
(11:24):
law says that if you are going to let anybody
else shoot that, right, And I learned that a long
time ago because I asked to shoot a guy's rifle
one time with a suppressor because I can't it's registered
only to me. And I said, correct, I said, okay,
that's fine. Yeah, I don't want to shoot it in
I'm not going to put you in any.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Because the way the way the laws season by letting
your friend shoot it and let your friend take possession
of it. Oh okay, yeah, And that's and that's the
part that breaks the law.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
That's another that makes very good sense. Uh, you cleared
it up for a lot of people. I would imagine.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Thank you, Ed.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Always a pleasure keep it going out there. I brag
on you so much, ye idea, I really.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Do appreciate it. Well. Yeah, And the main.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Thing I convey is that you're a shooter. You didn't
take it over as a businessman trying to own another business.
And I also I also have let the cat out
of the bag too. That nobody wants to if if
you tell them you'd love to shoot for a couple
of bucks and maybe have some fun, I had to
just keep your hand on your wallet and walk away.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That's what I tell you. All Right, we enjoy what
we do.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I know you're doing your darn good at it too.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Thank you, Ed.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I'll see it man.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Audios
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