January 18, 2026 • 8 mins
Originally aired on January 18, 2026. Doug interviews Wakes n Drakes' Captain Chuck Uzzle, where they discuss fishing conditions in southeastern Texas, limits in this state vs Louisiana, and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, welcome back, Thanks for listening. Certainly do appreciate it.
(00:02):
I got a guy on the phone. I'm glad I
got him too, because I didn't talk to him in
a while. And I want to find out what's going
on over at Sabine Lake. And that one and only
god I want to talk to over there is Chuck Huzzle, Chuck.
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Man? My friend?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I am fantastic, couldn't be better, couldn't be better, except
we've got a little scratchy throat. It's not it's not
even scratchy. I'm just kind of little. I'm horse. I've
been joking. This is the second time this has happened
in about like two and a half three months. I
identify as a pony because I'm a little horse. You
just tuck that one away in case you need it sometime. So, ma'am,
(00:37):
what is going on over at Sabine Now?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I don't do it where we actually, you know, twenty
twenty five was pretty good to us many for the
for the longest, you know, the kind of the battle
crowd was the trout or too short and the red
Fisher too big. Now we we finally, you know, got
to where we had a pretty solid, pretty solid you
(01:02):
know pattern on some some of those you know those
upper slot seventeen to twenty inch track and it was great.
It was great to see some of those. And actually
you know, had some fish you know in the five
six pound class this year, which man a couple of years,
a couple of years ago, I didn't think we'd ever
see those again. So we can. We don't have anything crazy,
(01:23):
you know between now and the in the spring you
know happened I think twenty twenty six, could you know,
we may start seeing some of those better fish, you know,
like we used to in the heyday. So it would
be nice have.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
The people on your side over there, have many of
them started driving across the bridge and you taking advantage
of Louisiana limits and.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
They've been doing that forever.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, I have.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I've railed against that, as you know, and even and
and I'll say, you know this, that's just kind of
one of those deals. You know, everybody says you got
to heal, you're going to down, and that's kind of mine.
I mean when we go to even when we go
across and we go fish shoot, we still keep Texas fish.
That's just that's just kind of the way my that's
just kind of way my boat works. And you know,
(02:08):
it's bought us a little bit of credibility with you know,
some of those guys over there whenever they see you,
you know, catch a good fish and you turn it loose,
you know, that's those guys that are you know, of
that mentality. So yeah, it's a it's a tough deal.
I wish that there was something that we could do
similar to like to lead a meeting or text omer
or those border places that you could at least and
(02:32):
I get it, you know, there are people that are
just totally numbers driven. Sure, and you know you can
you can drive a little ways and and and it's
perfectly legal or whatever. But boy, it's just a it's
just the last thing that we need, you know, whenever
we're just in mopingion, when we've got our kind of
getting our feet back underneath us, that you know, come
over here and and just you know, keep a whole
(02:54):
pile of fish whenever. You know, it would be nice
if if we didn't for a while.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
What what is there limit over there now?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Uh, it's it's fifteen.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Minimum size.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
And they're yeah, they're they're they've actually you know, there
for a little while, they had done they had done
the deal where they made calcusheu and one more going east,
the like, they had designated it as a trophy as
a trophy lake, and that that didn't didn't work out,
(03:29):
you know, some of those people, you know, they made
it where you can only keep like two fish over
twenty five. Yeah, you know, it just seemed like really,
you know, really uh uh. At least it was a
step in the right direction, you know for those guys.
I mean they're they're a thirteen inch they're a thirteen
inch minimum, but you can still keep you can still
keep fifteen fish.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
It happens. Yeah, that's just it's amazing to me that
we can be we just we share this border and
on one side you can keep three in it within
a little slot, and on the other side you can
keep fifteen five times as many fish. And they don't
understand why their fishery isn't really doing that.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Well, yeah, it's the same thing, you know. I mean
they keep more riffish and you know, the flounder, zeel
and all that, and it's just a I mean, if
it just split the difference, you know, make it to
where it's not quite as appealing, you know, for people
to make the drive and go and do that. Yeah, yeah,
it's uh, you know, you're you know, you can't. Dicky
Colbern told me a long time ago, man said, you
(04:30):
can't legislate morals, and it's just you know, that's yeah.
I mean, it's just that's just the way it is.
I mean it's not they're they're within their right and
it's leaving everyone, whether you like it or whether you don't.
I mean, it's just one of those things. But man,
it just that was I was so petrified and we
saw we see it from time to time. You know,
it's like everybody in the world who lives east of
(04:51):
us sword h Town or whatever that's got a that
owns the you know, piece of fiberglass or man, they'll
take off and that that whole Louisiana side will just
be littered with Texas you know, Texas truck and trailers.
And it's just just a tough deal, tough deal to watch.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
How much fishing traffic do y'all have over there now
compared to when you and I were fishing a lot?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
It comes and goes in spurts. I don't think we have.
I don't think we have nearly as much traffic. I think,
you know, there's a lot to do kind of with
the economy and you know, gases like that, and you
both wing income. But I mean when it's you know,
kind of cherry picking or whatever, you'll see that. You'll
see the crowds, but for the most part, and they
really haven't had a reason to fish here because it's
just it's been tough, you know that, ye all in
(05:35):
all honesty, I mean we've been We've been fortunate enough
to you know, be able to over the years have
some tried and true places where we were still able
to catch some fish. And I spent way more time
this year down at the Jety's and on the beach
front than I do. But but you know, you got
to go down there and you got to do that,
you know whatever. Those fish are there, you know, with
clients and all that stuff. But it's uh, I think
(05:57):
I think overall, on the average, you know, the numbers
are down. One of the things that I kind of
find interesting is we're starting to see more of those
Hackberry guys run run west and Iver would have thought
that they would all, you know, stay piled up the issues.
But it's uh, I think it's just kind of season longer.
It's easier for some of those guys. But you know,
(06:19):
making that however, you know, twenty twenty fours mile run
down down the inner coastal, you know, just to get
to the just to get the river over here. But
it's uh, it is different. I mean, it's just you know, whatever,
it evolves all the time, and you know we're hoping
that that, you know, some of that good stuff comes back.
And I will say this, I think our red fish
(06:39):
fishery is probably as good as anywhere on the goulf.
I mean, we're we're just ridiculous. Yeah, everybody's been saying
the same thing. You know, there's been a lot of
red fish and all that. But yeah, man, it's just
just uh, you know, you get out there and start,
you know, start catching those fish and you know, one
of them comes up to the side of the bud
and go, oh man, that one might finally make the
slot and it's not too big. You lay it up
(07:00):
down that chicken and you know it's thirty two inches long.
You know, it's like, oh my god, because it looks small.
You know, we're a lot of these fish or thirty
seven to forty and it's just it's just it's been
really really good on the red fish. They just they
won't leave, and you know, hoping that the trout will
fallow suit fantastic.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Cliff Web had one downe and uh somewhere down where
he was fishing a few days ago. He had one
guy called a big trout, one guy caught a snook,
and another guy called a fifty two inch red fish.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Oh my lord, what a what a profect man.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
That fish is getting better. I'm with you everything. I
love this three fish limit for us over here. I
wish Louisiana would help a little bit with it. But
if they do, they do, and if they don't, they don't,
and it'll all work out somehow. Man, it's good to
hear from you again. I need to get over there
and fish with you.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Cluck chuck, I'm I'm waiting. You always got a spot
in the boat.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Man, all right, man, Yeah, I'll make the plans. I
just gotta. I just gotta get off my lazy behind
and pick a day.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Thank you, all right, I don't see you. If I
don't see I catch at the fish and show.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, tell them your number, man, because I don't know
if everybody has it.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Over here area code four oh nine six nine seven
six one one. Wakesondrakes dot com on the Internet.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I like that, Wakes and Drakes. That's a good you
come up with that. Yes, third, nice, Wakes and Drakes.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
That's awesome, Thank you, Chuck, Okay, buddy, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah man, Audios, holy cow.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Louisiana fifteen trout.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
That's a lot. That's a lot.
All right, welcome back, Thanks for listening. Certainly do appreciate it.
(00:02):
I got a guy on the phone. I'm glad I
got him too, because I didn't talk to him in
a while. And I want to find out what's going
on over at Sabine Lake. And that one and only
god I want to talk to over there is Chuck Huzzle, Chuck.
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Man? My friend?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I am fantastic, couldn't be better, couldn't be better, except
we've got a little scratchy throat. It's not it's not
even scratchy. I'm just kind of little. I'm horse. I've
been joking. This is the second time this has happened
in about like two and a half three months. I
identify as a pony because I'm a little horse. You
just tuck that one away in case you need it sometime. So, ma'am,
(00:37):
what is going on over at Sabine Now?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I don't do it where we actually, you know, twenty
twenty five was pretty good to us many for the
for the longest, you know, the kind of the battle
crowd was the trout or too short and the red
Fisher too big. Now we we finally, you know, got
to where we had a pretty solid, pretty solid you
(01:02):
know pattern on some some of those you know those
upper slot seventeen to twenty inch track and it was great.
It was great to see some of those. And actually
you know, had some fish you know in the five
six pound class this year, which man a couple of years,
a couple of years ago, I didn't think we'd ever
see those again. So we can. We don't have anything crazy,
(01:23):
you know between now and the in the spring you
know happened I think twenty twenty six, could you know,
we may start seeing some of those better fish, you know,
like we used to in the heyday. So it would
be nice have.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
The people on your side over there, have many of
them started driving across the bridge and you taking advantage
of Louisiana limits and.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
They've been doing that forever.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, I have.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I've railed against that, as you know, and even and
and I'll say, you know this, that's just kind of
one of those deals. You know, everybody says you got
to heal, you're going to down, and that's kind of mine.
I mean when we go to even when we go
across and we go fish shoot, we still keep Texas fish.
That's just that's just kind of the way my that's
just kind of way my boat works. And you know,
(02:08):
it's bought us a little bit of credibility with you know,
some of those guys over there whenever they see you,
you know, catch a good fish and you turn it loose,
you know, that's those guys that are you know, of
that mentality. So yeah, it's a it's a tough deal.
I wish that there was something that we could do
similar to like to lead a meeting or text omer
or those border places that you could at least and
(02:32):
I get it, you know, there are people that are
just totally numbers driven. Sure, and you know you can
you can drive a little ways and and and it's
perfectly legal or whatever. But boy, it's just a it's
just the last thing that we need, you know, whenever
we're just in mopingion, when we've got our kind of
getting our feet back underneath us, that you know, come
over here and and just you know, keep a whole
(02:54):
pile of fish whenever. You know, it would be nice
if if we didn't for a while.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
What what is there limit over there now?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Uh, it's it's fifteen.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Minimum size.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
And they're yeah, they're they're they've actually you know, there
for a little while, they had done they had done
the deal where they made calcusheu and one more going east,
the like, they had designated it as a trophy as
a trophy lake, and that that didn't didn't work out,
(03:29):
you know, some of those people, you know, they made
it where you can only keep like two fish over
twenty five. Yeah, you know, it just seemed like really,
you know, really uh uh. At least it was a
step in the right direction, you know for those guys.
I mean they're they're a thirteen inch they're a thirteen
inch minimum, but you can still keep you can still
keep fifteen fish.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
It happens. Yeah, that's just it's amazing to me that
we can be we just we share this border and
on one side you can keep three in it within
a little slot, and on the other side you can
keep fifteen five times as many fish. And they don't
understand why their fishery isn't really doing that.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Well, yeah, it's the same thing, you know. I mean
they keep more riffish and you know, the flounder, zeel
and all that, and it's just a I mean, if
it just split the difference, you know, make it to
where it's not quite as appealing, you know, for people
to make the drive and go and do that. Yeah, yeah,
it's uh, you know, you're you know, you can't. Dicky
Colbern told me a long time ago, man said, you
(04:30):
can't legislate morals, and it's just you know, that's yeah.
I mean, it's just that's just the way it is.
I mean it's not they're they're within their right and
it's leaving everyone, whether you like it or whether you don't.
I mean, it's just one of those things. But man,
it just that was I was so petrified and we
saw we see it from time to time. You know,
it's like everybody in the world who lives east of
(04:51):
us sword h Town or whatever that's got a that
owns the you know, piece of fiberglass or man, they'll
take off and that that whole Louisiana side will just
be littered with Texas you know, Texas truck and trailers.
And it's just just a tough deal, tough deal to watch.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
How much fishing traffic do y'all have over there now
compared to when you and I were fishing a lot?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
It comes and goes in spurts. I don't think we have.
I don't think we have nearly as much traffic. I think,
you know, there's a lot to do kind of with
the economy and you know, gases like that, and you
both wing income. But I mean when it's you know,
kind of cherry picking or whatever, you'll see that. You'll
see the crowds, but for the most part, and they
really haven't had a reason to fish here because it's
just it's been tough, you know that, ye all in
(05:35):
all honesty, I mean we've been We've been fortunate enough
to you know, be able to over the years have
some tried and true places where we were still able
to catch some fish. And I spent way more time
this year down at the Jety's and on the beach
front than I do. But but you know, you got
to go down there and you got to do that,
you know whatever. Those fish are there, you know, with
clients and all that stuff. But it's uh, I think
(05:57):
I think overall, on the average, you know, the numbers
are down. One of the things that I kind of
find interesting is we're starting to see more of those
Hackberry guys run run west and Iver would have thought
that they would all, you know, stay piled up the issues.
But it's uh, I think it's just kind of season longer.
It's easier for some of those guys. But you know,
(06:19):
making that however, you know, twenty twenty fours mile run
down down the inner coastal, you know, just to get
to the just to get the river over here. But
it's uh, it is different. I mean, it's just you know, whatever,
it evolves all the time, and you know we're hoping
that that, you know, some of that good stuff comes back.
And I will say this, I think our red fish
(06:39):
fishery is probably as good as anywhere on the goulf.
I mean, we're we're just ridiculous. Yeah, everybody's been saying
the same thing. You know, there's been a lot of
red fish and all that. But yeah, man, it's just
just uh, you know, you get out there and start,
you know, start catching those fish and you know, one
of them comes up to the side of the bud
and go, oh man, that one might finally make the
slot and it's not too big. You lay it up
(07:00):
down that chicken and you know it's thirty two inches long.
You know, it's like, oh my god, because it looks small.
You know, we're a lot of these fish or thirty
seven to forty and it's just it's just it's been
really really good on the red fish. They just they
won't leave, and you know, hoping that the trout will
fallow suit fantastic.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Cliff Web had one downe and uh somewhere down where
he was fishing a few days ago. He had one
guy called a big trout, one guy caught a snook,
and another guy called a fifty two inch red fish.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Oh my lord, what a what a profect man.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
That fish is getting better. I'm with you everything. I
love this three fish limit for us over here. I
wish Louisiana would help a little bit with it. But
if they do, they do, and if they don't, they don't,
and it'll all work out somehow. Man, it's good to
hear from you again. I need to get over there
and fish with you.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Cluck chuck, I'm I'm waiting. You always got a spot
in the boat.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Man, all right, man, Yeah, I'll make the plans. I
just gotta. I just gotta get off my lazy behind
and pick a day.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Thank you, all right, I don't see you. If I
don't see I catch at the fish and show.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, tell them your number, man, because I don't know
if everybody has it.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Over here area code four oh nine six nine seven
six one one. Wakesondrakes dot com on the Internet.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I like that, Wakes and Drakes. That's a good you
come up with that. Yes, third, nice, Wakes and Drakes.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
That's awesome, Thank you, Chuck, Okay, buddy, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah man, Audios, holy cow.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Louisiana fifteen trout.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
That's a lot. That's a lot.
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