Astros Fall in Game 2 vs Mariner, Does Tatsuya Imai Need More Time?

Astros Fall in Game 2 vs Mariner, Does Tatsuya Imai Need More Time?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Is The Matt Thomas Show with Ross t What an
Ain't sound?

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Good morning, and welcome to a Wednesday edition The Matt
Thomas Show with Ross. This is Sports Talk seven IVY.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Seattle wins their ninth in a row over the Astros,
dating back to last September, as the Astros have now
lost four consecutive.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Games at six this year. Oh my gosh. I went
on Softy's radio show yesterday in Seattle Sports Harvey and
he's like, you haven't the old smack talk, And he's
like throwing questions at me about it. Y'all giving up?

(00:48):
And I'm bringing up Sam Darnold's playoff record, bringing up
the Sonics, and me be going back to Seattle little
cracking talk of I cracking talk, Seattle cracking, n HL cracky.
How the kracking doing these years? I think they're done.
I think they've been done for a while. That's a shame.
Good name. Uh not what I would have chosen, But

(01:09):
apparently people like it. So that's the most important thing
is you have to do what you're finding fans like.
It's a nice and scary maritime mythical creature cracking. Yeah, well,
you know it's funny because we were kids. Everything every
team had an ass and then the Utah Jazz came
into playing, like then then Miami eat what magic? Sometimes

(01:30):
it's plural, yeah, but it's not like that though. The
kracking is. I mean, it's like a bison, it's plural.
So you just have an ass. So if you're a
single cracking, you're you're a crack.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I think a flock of kracking is known as a gaggle. Nice.
You know what, even if you did make it up
with I don't believe you, and I do believe you. Everybody,
how's it going? We can talk let's talk more cracking
rather than baseball. So, uh, your name for a fictitious fictions? Yeah,

(02:01):
good job, which is yeah, that's wrong. NHL team, the
Houston whatevers, Uh huh. We may be doing that sooner
rather than later. So okay. Yeah, so you am a
lot of positives to take away. Well, it was decent

(02:23):
for a short period of time until he started to
walk everybody. Well, let's run through it. He only threw
two pitches. He gave up like a bunch of one
hundred mile an hour rockets, gave up a grand slant
and a two run shot and then he didn't go
deep into the game. Fantastic start. I will give you
credit because now I am all engaged in the what

(02:44):
kind of start it was? There's quality, Yes, there's quality
zero sugar, Yes, there's quality light, there's quality plus, there's
quality extra. There was nothing quality about where you saw
that high cholesterol started. That's exactly what that was last night.
It was not quality all and I mean he had
a nice, perfect first inning, but they tried to simplify things.

(03:06):
Joe spot has said before the game, scattering reporters throw strikes. Well,
he walked three guys and the strikes that he was
throwing were middle middle. The reality now, what you want.
You cannot be a starting pitcher, a good one in
Major League Baseball when you are down to two pitches,
you cannot. But if you want to, if you're if
you've been struggling and you're trying to get back to

(03:27):
basics and what, you can make it through a start
with two pitches. I mean, Christian Javier has been a fastball,
slider guy first starts, and it's okay, it's not ideal,
but you can make it through a start. Can you
make it through a year or a career. No, but
if you're wanting to make it through one start, and
I'm really just trying to give some grace here if
you want, if you want to make it through one

(03:48):
start and then try to build from there, because you've
been struggling and you're in a new country and you
were bad in your rehab, I can wrap my head
around it.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, but I have seen some better results, Carora. I
got two hits too. Yeah, at least it were they
weren't off tattoo. Em. I guess Randy Rose Arena had fun.
Oh my god, what do you have four hits in
a walk or whatever? You have four hits and a
hit by pitch hit, two doubles off of Murray and
the Grand Slam, so good god, and he was at

(04:21):
the Grand Slime scar Ken's Yeah it was. It was
the two run shot, was it Rose? Yeah? Yeah, he
only had four hits. But the good news is they
only scored two runs. So at the end of the day,
the horrible start from Tattoo you min didn't really matter. Yeah, yeah,

(04:42):
only three runs in four games or whatever it is.
Do you go to the calendar, Yeah, how's the offense been?
That's we didn't even talk about I mean, think about that.
I didn't much in the post game. So yeah, four
runs in four games. How was the calls, by the way,
I don't know. It wasn't me. Oh okay, this me tonight,
I'll tell you. Yeah, thank you, appreciate it. Pops's birthday

(05:04):
tonight and we'll be having dinner. So thank you. Good
good man the game for me. Shout up, Matt Thomas. Yeah,
mister Kingwood, mister Kingwood. Uh, mister Jordan Alvarez needs to
start swinging the battle little bit better too. That hasn't
helped either. Uh, he is cooling off significantly. I mean,
it happens. It's baseball. Oh they're showing a view of

(05:26):
dyk In Park right now. What a beautiful stadium with
the roof opened. God, what a glorious day. Yeah, they're
not going to do that. It was opening. It was
opening freaking Arlington yesterday. I think it's because they got
it got stuck. I'm sorry. They wanted to open it,
but it got stuck, and then they eventually opened it.
I thought, I thought, But I could be wrong, you
could be right. I don't know. Yeah, it doesn't matter.
They're not going to open it. It was whatever. I'm

(05:47):
over it. They don't want to have outdoor baseball. The
players hate it. Joe Spot hates it, so they're not
going to do it. That's fine. And I'll say this,
the next stadium that will be built when you and
I have grandchildren, well maybe not. Maybe I'm not gonna
have any. We do not need this retractable bit is done.
Either you're gonna either gonna go open air and call
it a day, which you're not, it's too hot, or
you're gonna build a closed roof stadium and just keep

(06:09):
it closed. Because the amount of money that has been
spent on the two facilities in this city to have retractable,
I mean, my assumption is it would be cheaper if
they just if it never had a runof they'll still
do it. Seems silly. It's gonna be a waste. It'll
be a waste again, but they'll probably still do it.
Like Phoenix, as hot as Phoenix is, they open their
roof up on occasion.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Chandler Room did a whole arc which I love. Taylor
Road is so great. Don't get on his bad side, folks.
He wrote a whole expos with another writer who's a
name I can't remember about how the Rangers have opened
everybody's opened it more Phoenix, Arizona. Everyone he has a
retractable roof has opened at Miami. I think maybe has
opened it way more than Houston. But that's not why

(06:50):
they're losing. That's why they can't hit. That's not why
they hit. We are trying to find other things to
talk about in the end result. By the way, today's
game time temperature, let me look at the hourly forecast
will be eighty seven. Is a little warm. I mean
it is, but it's been There have been some seventy
eight degree days. The roof has been closed, all right.

(07:10):
From what we understand, our phones are working what I
would say one to ten. They're at about a six. Okay,
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Comeby Argent a guinea pigs. As the Astros fell yesterday,
I will say this. I was at a volleyball banquet

(07:50):
last night. It was my daughter's last club volleyball banquet.
And you know those banquets, and there are a lot
of you that out there that have daughters that have
sons that are you know, go to baseball banquets or
football banquets and you have to hear about the eleven
year old team, the twelve year old team, the thirteen
year old team, and you only, really, let's be brutally
on it, you only care about your kid's team. Mm hm.

(08:13):
So I said, you know what, I'm no certainly no disrespect,
but I need something to fill my time. So I
put the Astros game on my phone. As the eleven
year old teams and twelve year old teams, and thirteen
year old teams and fourteen year old my daughter's eighteen.
So it got to it took a while. You know,
thirteen year olds have three teams fourteen, and so it
was it's like when my family goes to graduation or

(08:35):
waiting for the v's. So I'm watching a minute, I'm
watching email and plode in the fourth inning with walk
walk hit by a pitch in the slam. I almost
I almost swore in this community dinner thing for this club,
and I'm like, I can't do this. I've got hundreds
of impressiable young ladies. No you should, I can't know.

(08:57):
You can't day learned someday. Oh they're probably Curson more out.
Let me tell you something. If we had a tip
jar at the Thomas House, this may be a surprise
you maybe not. You know everybody really well, I probably
would finish fourth out of fifth between between, can I
try to order them? Yeah? Go ahead, Peyton one when

(09:18):
it comes to Aggie's Yes, okay, that's what's good. And
then they're your Your wife and Peyton are one too.
Carly is one, really and I'm really surprised, really upset.
Matter of fact, i'd be five out of five. I
didn't curse around my parents until like after college. I'm like,
good God, what are you something? You are a Division
one athlete. You are an excellent honor student. Let's get

(09:42):
the let's get the sailor mouth out of your out
of your system here. Yeah, I still try to limit it,
but I do. I don't do it very very very
limited time and around my kids, my mom. That matters.
So the kids either, yeah, that you know of, okay,
hearing it's not mine all right? So the show today
at this point, we've got Brian Bogusvik at eleven o'clock today. Okay,

(10:03):
we canna ask. We got a lot of questions for him.
We gotta shut your bow mask up at eleven thirty
Joe a spot. We didn't have the phones working yesterday,
so uh, it feels like that's a fluid if we
get them today. I think we're supposed to get them today,
all right, not confirmed, not confirmed.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
And then we've got to believe it or not today
at one fifty uh, in a full four hours today,
a short show tomorrow, and then a full four on Friday.
Not only all the astro is losing sports Harvy, but
they're losing by giving up double digit runs. Yeah, and
scoring two scored two runs one in the second, one

(10:39):
and the third and that was that. And Emi at
one point, just had to wear it. Then got an
ochre warmed up a little bit and he's like, ellank
giving oh grand slam. All right, that's your finished my time,
because you're out of the game at that point basically.
And then you have Jayden Murray again, just an innings
eater at this point placement level, and aj blue Ball

(11:02):
started off the season hot, but he's cooled off considerably.
Two innings, give up two more runs considerably. All right.
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join us. Is madd and Ross here on seven nine.
Matt and Ross with you at ten twenty Astros falling
Game two of the Series two. The Mariners have dropped
now six consecutives. To see, Like I said, I went
on Seattle Radio yesterday KJR, and they're just like, you

(12:04):
ready call the season and you don't call him, just talk. Well,
you don't ask talk when your team's not playing. Well, yeah,
what are you gonna say. I don't want me to
call up and start smack talking a team with Eh,
it's got ninety five injuries where everybody's on the entry
the list and we got sixteen wainings. Suck at Seattle.
So we started talking about all the iHeartRadio podcasts we promote.

(12:26):
Oh my god. He's like, the guys are the worst.
He's like, do you know who this Clifford is? I'm like, no,
I don't know who this Clifford is. That's funny, not familiar.
We need to get on one of those who do
I talk to about that? I want to get I
want to get a fat check from my Heart for
doing a podcast about nothing. Yo, Hey we're a couple
of dorks. Did we do a podcast about nothing? Come

(12:48):
come download us. Oh I'm not gonna do the promo
like that, but I mean oh oh, I need a
picknick basket. Come about this one? Why did you go
yogi bear on us? My name is Matt and I
want to do a podcast about game shows. Find us
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(13:13):
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deep cut there. Yeah, is that still going? I mean
as the best. I just I honestly don't do that
much podcasting. I the only podcasting I do is wrestling,
and that's when I fall asleep at night. That's it.
Listening to you. I do a little Zach Low show,

(13:34):
some a fantasy football podcast when the season's getting ramped up.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
I think podcasts have its in a weekly Yeah, but
to have a bunch of former athletes, you swear words
and bring up stories that they can't ever mentioned on
terresta radio, they don't. They don't get my vote, they
don't get my listen. It's just a lot too the
markets so spread out. Just keep it here live and
local Sports Talk seven. You're gonna be here in good

(13:58):
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means a lot to us that you come back if
you can't listen between ten and two to listen to us,
you know, like four o'clock in the morning or yeah,
three forty five at night. Whatever. We do actually do
a good job of putting our shows up pretty finally,
slap my number on my name on the podcast page

(14:19):
after I ask, so, I appreciate that too. Well, our
phone lines are working. I mean, we we got a
two two for two day. I think let's go all right,
so h Dana Brown was with the morning show this
and we'll play some of that also coming up as well.
Brian bogust ific at eleven o'clock. I mean, I'm sad.
I don't really know. Really, there's not a whole lot

(14:41):
to take away from this to say, okay, yeah, this
this looked good. Of the thirteen balls put in play
against tattoo em I, of course, Matt, as you know,
hard hit is ninety five miles an hour or more correct,
ten of them were hard hit. He Unfortunately, that's not good. Yeah,

(15:01):
and Joe said the right thing yesterday said I got
he's gonna pitch in five days. There's not a whole
lot of options the hunter. Brown's not ready to walk
through that door and start pitching. Christian Javier is not.
Who else? I mean, who the hell knows what's gonna
happen with Lance mccolors and his nail. He's supposed to
pitch tonight, So yeah, whatever happened, what's going on? I
think I think we're okay. I think we're on what

(15:26):
whoever did it good for them, whether it was Lance's idea,
whether it was a trainer's idea. They glued a titanium
fingernail on there. Now he's gonna spend the ball even faster.
Is that good? I'm just gonna tell you, in a
million years, I would have never thought that we would
have come to you as radio host and as Astros fans,
and said, the front end of the Astros rotation is

(15:49):
led by Peter Lambert, Spencer, Mike Burrows and Mike Burrows,
who's starting to turn the corner. Now Burrows could have
been on the list because we thought that was a
pretty sneaky movie. But he said that you were a
gut feeling. He's like, s you top three? Yeah after
spring training? Yeah, I'm just excitederating of course.

Speaker 7 (16:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Bryce Miller is coming back off the injured list for Seattle,
so I mean first start of the year for him.
Maybe maybe he's not gonna be that as soon as
a pitch count on that. Yeah, I'm wondering why the
astros are I mean why Seattle only minus one thirty one,
because because the astros are due. Let's talk to Steven

(16:34):
on seven ninety and twenty five. Steven, do for what
do I cannot handle any more Seattle victories? I don't know.
I'm getting on cocky ever, there they're due for more
ass weapons. Steven, Good morning.

Speaker 7 (16:45):
Hey guys, happy to talk to you.

Speaker 8 (16:47):
I'm glad your phones are working today. Have a movie
analogy or a quote from a movie and I wanted
to see if you thought it was appro post. So
have you have you any of you guys seen The
Big labout Ski.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yes, there there's a scene in.

Speaker 8 (17:04):
The Big Lebowski where Jeff Bridges the Labowski is talking
to the older Lebowski and I'll clean it up for
the radio, obviously, but Jeff is like, Jeff Lebowski is like, uh,
nothing isffd up here, and the Big Lebowski says, nothing
is effed up. The damn plane has crashed into the
damn mountain. And that's what it feels like with the

(17:27):
Astros right now. It's this team is a disaster. You know,
some somehow we find a reliever to starter money because
anything but a fastball and a slider throws in my
mental uh the capacitia out of whack. You know, there's
about five guys on this lineup that have no business
being in the majors, but they got to start because

(17:48):
you know, everybody's injured, and I mean it just they're
at least at the beginning of the year, you know,
we were like, you know, if the pitching like can't
be this bad, well it'll level out, you know, maybe
we've got a chance. But there's there's just it's just
such a bad team. And it's it's a it's it's
really deflating knowing that if they don't score ten runs
by like the fifth or sixth inning, the game's over.

(18:11):
Like they they don't come back at all, you know, uh,
he just it just puts intermissioning on on whatever lineup
you have left. When you're already down six or seven
runs by the fifth inning. It's it's a bad product.
It's you know, I said three weeks ago that you know,
I thought if this was a really bad home stand,
that you know, my gut feeling was that Joe would

(18:33):
be fired. And I don't think he deserves to be fired,
but they might not win a game this home stand.
I mean, did you guys see the pitching probables for
the Rangers and they got like Valdi and de Gram
and then somebody else. I mean, it's just this is
like a perfect storm of like a really bad lineup
facing really great hitters, and it's and this team just

(18:53):
looks really really bad right now, and it's not fun
to watch. And you know the fact that it's only
make feels more like a threat than hope. So you know, hey,
I just wanted to rant a little bit, guys, So
thanks for taking my follow hit.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, you know, And Dana was on with Cole and
Dan this morning and he said all the right things,
because that's what you have to do as a general manager.
That's what you have to do as a front office person.
You have to you have to express optimism. And I
know that awful, negative, nasty people are going to say, well, Dana,

(19:33):
is what the hell he's talking about? Remember what is
he supposed to say. Is he supposed to come on
his radio show, his weekly radio show, and say, guys,
we suck and I've not done my job, and my
pitching staff is hurt, and my corner outfielders are not
hitting and they suck and I'm mad at them, and
I'm mad at my manager, and I'm mad at my
eighteam me dour pitch. I mean, take take a second

(19:58):
to logically think about what you would say and what
you would do if in their position. Yeah, I'm packing
out of my office. But as I said these things,
Dana has had the scoreboard the last couple of years
to say, hey, things were awful, and things did get better,
granted out to the level of making the playoffs last year,
or not to the level before that, losing in the
first round of Detroit and the wall and cart And

(20:22):
so the optimist in me says, Okay, Dana, if you've
got evidence it says the Astros bounce back from this,
then I can buy into that. But as I told
you about a month ago, ross on the gut feelings,
it just this really for me, for the first time
during this golden age of Astros baseball does feel different

(20:43):
because you lost your front end of your rotation, You
lost your perceived number two starter. You let your number
two starter of a year ago move to Detroit, and
again that was no surprise, and probably there was the
right decision, but you thought you were replacing him with
an international talent that a lot of teams range, and
that has been an abject failure. You were hoping for

(21:04):
progression in camp Smith's game. Offensively, that has not happened.
You have lost your left side of the infield for
a large chunk of time, and you're going to lose
at least one of it for the rest of the season.
And you're just filling player. You're filling out a roster
with players who can do everything humanly possible at sugar Land,
but the jump from the sugar Land of the major

(21:24):
leagues is seismic and they just have not been able
to do it. Add on top of the fact that
you scored all these runs in the first month of
the year and your pitching staff could not take advantage
of that by giving because they had their worst era
in the most walks in a month. And now you've
got a lot of your astro bats coming back to
regression i e. Jordan Alvarez oh for four for three

(21:45):
yesterday with two more strikeouts. Christian Walker digging an RBI yesterday,
but his numbers have dropped off. Camp Smith. I don't
remember the last time he's had a meaningful hit, which
is tough because I like camp Smith a lot, and
you're playing Brendan Chumak, who's actual. She's done pretty well
for himself. Yes, she makes me good, and she makes
me good with some respect on his name. We love
ourselves some Bryce Matthews, but the numbers aren't good. And

(22:09):
for those that were clamoring for Christian Vasquez to play
six days a week, we're starting to see some of
the labors of that. Yeah, he is die bombing. There's
just not enough talent. They and and I love Dana's optimism,
but if you are waiting for health, it's not like
four guys are ready to start hell. Jeremy Payney yesterday

(22:30):
for Corpus CHRISTI gets beat up twice during the game.
Right runs into a collision between first and second base,
and then I think he gets hit by a pitch
in the game. It's a plate yesterday, I mean, it's
a it's just bad juju right now, it's bad. I mean,
it's just the the raging fire that was the Astros

(22:51):
dynasty is down to burning embers. That's what it is.
And everybody goes through this. Yes, the Yankees went through it,
The Braves went through it. Well, so they hurt it,
don't make it it mean. It doesn't hurt. It doesn't
hurt because you know what always open when you're watching
if somewhere else you're like, yeah, sorry, suck it. We're winning.

(23:12):
Windows looking closed right now, and I'm afraid people are
gonna lose their job over it. It might happen. I'm
not a fan of people that I like losing their jobs. Yeah,
I wonder you We'll see what happens as far as
the season and how things end. But it's not looking
good for a spot, Dana Brown. I mean, you're having
a couple of the recent draft picks are looking pretty good,

(23:35):
So I don't know what's going to happen there. But
you could dig up Casey Stingle from the grave. Yeah,
it doesn't mean things aren't changing here, they're just not.
I'm sad. Too many injured players, too many players not
performing the expectations. They scored two runs and gave up
ten yesterday. That's not Joe's spots fault. I'm sorry, it's

(23:58):
not tato. I don't think Joe spot is like I
can't wait to get tied. So you emai on the
hill to give six runs up and then have everybody
else score two. Although my offense, if you're gonna get
fix emi, ye know, he's got to pitch, he's got
to get out there. He's got a sink or swim
and well, he sank pretty far yesterday. And just like

(24:19):
when they brought hose airbray you back after the downtime
in spring training, they had to hit him, they had
to put him in the line of every day, they
had to do something, and they eventually just said, well
this is lost a little bit of a different situation obviously,
but well he's got fifty four million dollars. It's a
fifty four million dollar deal over three years. Brian Bogus,
he's going to join us at about twenty minutes from now.

(24:39):
I don't know how much love it he'll be able
to handle give to us, but he'll be able to
sit in our assault of wounds, big amount of sault.
We're not used to this because Honestly, Ross, you and
I haven't had to do a summer like this since
twenty fifteen. That was a warder. Excuse me, twenty fourteen,

(25:05):
you think about it, Yeah, sixteen, Remember they regressed. They
regressed a little bit. They're like eighty five hundred. I think, yeah,
they were limiting the last week of the season, and
I forget what happened in seventeen. Oh yeah, the Dodgers don't.
Matter of fact, my Dodger buddies remind me constantly about
what they didn't do, what they did in seventeen. But yeah,

(25:25):
we're going off of not knowing how to handle this.
Like last year was difficult, but at least you had
something going into the final weekend. You've will let me
double check. I don't want to say something. I don't
want to speak something into existence that may or may
not be true. I'm gonna do the last time. They
were way out of it. No, I'm just talking about
standings wise. Overall, the Astros are tied with the Angels

(25:48):
for the worst record in Major League Baseball. Colorado's better,
the Mets are better. The Red Sox, who fired their manager.
By the way, they've lost two straight. They're playing at
about four hundred baseball too. By the way, manager of
firings don't change things. Typically, they can change sometimes, but not.

(26:08):
It's not going to change anything here. I mean, I
just will say this, I think those of you that
listen to our show aren't like stupid astro Twitter. I agree.
I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say that you guys are
a bar above them. Absolutely doesn't mean everybody is doesn't
mean everybody an astro Twitter is stupid most everybody, not most.

(26:29):
A lot of the majority on social media are just miserable,
angry people who are on there too much. And those
are the because there's a lot of people just how
people listen to this show and don't call. There's people
who browse social media who don't post or don't react
to every single thing. Right, the people who are reacting
to every single thing generally are going to be more
reactionary because they want to get somebody to react to

(26:50):
them to their reaction. Yes, So I'm just gonna say this,
those of you listen to the show, we love you
ten o'clockers especially, I think you know how this is
going to go. I think Dana Brown knows how it's
going to go. I think I think Joe Aspatta knows
how it's going to go. I think jose L Tuove

(27:12):
knows how this is going to go. I think everybody
in that role, in that group knows Zach. And I'm
not trying to point out Zach colebal I'll give you
Zach Coles. An example we mentioned on the show yesterday.
Zach Cole has been dreaming since he was a kid
to be a major league pitter. There are in a picture
out there or a hitter. There's one thing that holds
him back. He strikeouts. He strikes out all the time.

(27:36):
He's up there now, playing four days a week, give
or take right, and he's striking out Rossi all the time. Yeah,
we were optimistic because there was a Nick Allen September
wants to play in the infield every single day as
a major league baseball player. Nick Allen doesn't play every
single day because he cannot bat quality enough enough, hits

(27:59):
enough RBI enough slug to be an every day major
league hitter. Coming into the off season, there were a
number of things that we were like, oh, hey, maybe
this can happen. Have we hit anything We said, Hey,
maybe Mike Burrows would be really good. Maybe Tatsum will
be really good. Maybe is that cold the short sample size.
Maybe cam Smith will make a leap, maybe like how

(28:19):
we went to like ten maybes, have we hit anything?
Is anything that we were hopeful that would turn happened?
I'll give you the and this is I don't think
a lot of people were doing this. So if you
did it, props yourself. Maybe a few people thought Christian
Walker would have a bounce back. Okay, that's there is
one right there. That's it, thank you. I'm but he's

(28:41):
he's been cratering it. You were, but you were. Let's
go to the list, you said, astro, and you Astros
gave you a lengthier, longer look at pictures. None of
the guys, really, exception of Peter Lambert have panned out.
Eric any Okay, Peter Lambert, we were he wouldn't really
even our rights on the radar.

Speaker 6 (28:59):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
You thought that another year for Christian Walker and Houston
would help boom. You thought cam Smith second year being
a major leaguer after the pomp and circumstances being a
rookie would turn things out. The full off season to
take care of his body, inst and recover and learn,
learn the sport, and learn when it's like to be
major league hitters. Seeing the guys having scattering reports on you,

(29:20):
the balance of it is a disaster. Offensive. You were
hoping you on her Diez offense would take off to
another level that has not happened. Happen and he's hurt,
and he's hurt. You thought all about Oh, but number
one thing you thought was we can't possibly get hurt
as much this year you got last year. That's another thing.
I mean, Carlos kara Hey, Carlos Karay was bad in Minnesota,
pretty good in Houston. Maybe he can keep that going.

(29:41):
He did, Yeah, had a pretty good OPS plus and
then he now he's out for the season. Oh, Jordan's
saying healthy and playing every day now, that has helped.
But I don't the May yard on Alvarez has not
helped this team. Part of the reason why the Astros
can are winning three out of every ten games in
the month of May, it's because you're on. Alvarez has imploded,

(30:03):
not employed, but his regrets significantly. I mean, he's still
o psing over one thousand, so I mean, let's get
him a break. He gets the break yeah, forty three
games for him. He got forty eight last year, so
that's good. So if we're checking boxes, it's basically been
Alvarez healthy so far, almost a third of the way.
The war has been better, Walker better, but not enough.

(30:26):
The number one thing that we talked about was this
team can't get it hurt as much this year as
it did last year. There's no possible way that was
a one off. Well, they kind of haven't. It's because
I have been nineteen people, it's only been what sixteen
or fifty? Do you really mean when you lose for
the year, you haven't seen You've seen Carlo's painting. You
had your number one free ag opinion German painting. You

(30:48):
had your number one free agent call for entired arm
after his third start and he was bad in Corpus
and then he was bad yesterday only through two pitches
and both of them are getting whacked all over the field.
And I almost swore at a at a girls volleyball bank.
Quick it was on you, I said, I almost did
John on seven one A good morning John, Hey, good

(31:10):
morning guys. How you doing good?

Speaker 1 (31:12):
So I don't know if I haven't trusted you front
offs GM to do the draft this year. You know,
they got two first round picks. They got think they
have two in the first thirty five or something like that,
which is the best they've had in a long time.
Although next year is going to be a really big
draft pick, play.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
The high one.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
But I don't know they got trust. I mean, everybody
they draft, at least position players, they all have holes
in their swings I've never seen. I mean, they're just
not quality minor leaguers. You know, you look at every
other team. We have the worst form system in baseball,
you know, hands down. I guess we do have. We've
done decently in Latin American countries. I think, I guess

(31:50):
we have some young guy that's but he's like eighteen
years old or something like that, that's done. And I
guess single a maybe, But I mean other than that,
that's it, you know, And it's like it's a joke
in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
I mean, I mean, you're not's got.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
I mean, I think the McCullers needs to be DFAD
and I think you really need to start thinking about shopping.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
You'rnt on.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
I mean, he's got two more years left on his contract.
He could bring you a lot, you know, and I
hate to say it.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
The GM or the manager is probably going to go
one or both for the year. But I mean it's
time for drastic measures. You know. Look what, Look what
the other teams of the Cubs or I forget the
sume season to be the Red Sox have already fired
their manager.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
You know, I mean, how's that going for them?

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Well, it's You're right.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
It was probably knee jerk and it was probably too early.

Speaker 7 (32:41):
But the Astros, we're not.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Are supposed to be a good, a very good franchise.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
You know, was taking over this team. How do you
do you think the complexion of this team would change
and they would start winning ball games? And that's the
question out for you so much, John, It's more for
Jim Crane, but go ahead, please, Oh.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
No, you're right, absolutely right. It was again, like I said,
is it the right move?

Speaker 8 (33:03):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
I'm just saying something.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Needs to be done.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
This is not acceptable for the Houston Astros. I think
we've gotten to the point where, you know, I just don't.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
I can't believe Crane let it slip like this. You know,
they they should always they should never be this bad,
and that you know in my opinion. So anyway, that's
all I got. Thank you guys, for sure, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
We are we're spoiled where we are spoiled, Yes we are.
I mean, if you really, I mean you know we'll
get more than come back to we we got to.
I just don't. I would be shocked the fjord On
gets moved. He's twenty twenty. Wait is he still twenty eight?
Is he not twenty nine yet? Oh my god, Yeah,

(33:44):
he's still twenty eight. This is his age twenty nine season,
because he'll turn twenty nine in the middle. He's twenty
eight years old. He's got two years after this. Correct, Yes,
you're signing him to like a ten year deal before
you trade him.

Speaker 7 (33:55):
I need to.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
He's one of the best. He's one of the best
players in baseball. You can put my name on it.
The Astros are not training on Alvarez this year at
the headline. Just put my name on it. Yes, good done.
I'm not even writing that down. I will. I am
with you, and I'm gonna let y'all say it, but
I'm not going to respond to it except to say
it's not going to happen. I will put my whatever
reputation I have on it that Jordan Alvarez is not
getting traded. Everybody else maybe up for conjecture ten forty

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(35:09):
Hold my breath on that. We'll get to baseball in
just a couple of minutes, real quick. Brent McMurphy just
put this in a few minutes ago. He is one
of their ESPN. Oh actually, excuse me, he's an on three,
i AC six Commissioner Jim Phillips. Now, on the hierarchy
of commissioners, he's probably six out of six. All right, yeah,
uh well, let's face said power four when he said so,

(35:34):
he's four out of four. Yeah. I think Brett Yormark
is probably a little more powerful than then. Jim Phillips
coin flip, stay with it. ACC Commissioner Jim Phillips telling
ESPN excuse me rephrase. ACC Commissioner Jim Phillips says ESPN

(35:55):
does not want playoff to expand past sixteen teams. Okay. Quote,
ESPN has made it clear they wanted to stay at
twelve or fourteen, but no more than sixteen. IM only
gonna get on the horn with Jeff Bezos then. So,
as I've told we talked about this. What in the
last two days. I want to say, Ross, I told you,

(36:17):
we tell you television dictates everything. Yes, the money, money, money, money, Well,
I mean they have the money, so they have the
power that this in this particular case is power. Mm hmm.
If ESPN tells the CFP you're not going to twenty four,
they ain't going to twenty four, well, how long is

(36:41):
their deal? Well, no, there's no deal. Yeah, we don't know. Yes,
how long do they have the CFP is what we
need to know, because what if Jeff Bezos says, let's
do twenty four? That is interesting. If ESPN, if another
network comes in, If NBC is like twenty four, let's
go slap them on Peacock. I the question I have
is the amount of money of the ESPN is spending

(37:03):
for the current playoff? Can Amazon, Netflix, YouTube Peacock, NBC matchup?
Peacock is overextended with the NBA still apparently they're they're
hemorrhaging money. Yeah. I would say that NBC is like,
we're good. Yeah, light a candle for NBC Universal. We
got plenty of those poor guys. Yeah. We need to

(37:28):
kind of keep a little close ear to this because
I do want to see where the power play comes in. Okay,
because the SEA, because the College Football Association, the coaches
associations like ever go to twenty four because they're gonna
keep jobs and get guys bonuses and keep the promise
and hope alive for kids that they can complay for
national championship. ESPN may be saying, you might want to

(37:49):
do this, but we're not going to pay for it,
and maybe and maybe they maybe maybe they're doing this
part and and this is just a pure guest in
my part, maybe they don't want they don't want Turner,
they don't want Warner Brothers, they don't want other network
coming in. They're like, this is our baby. We don't
want somebody taking the top layer off of this for
us and getting all the early shine. Why wouldn't ESPN

(38:11):
want to By the way, wouldn't you be flipping the
you know, weed Eater Bowl or whatever, because the teams
who don't make it, they're in these bowl games, they
only get minimal ratings. If you flip those bulls some
of those Bowl games, just the matchups. I don't mean
the actual Bowl games, just the if you flip those
potential matchups, the amount of games you're having into playoff games,

(38:35):
the ratings are gonna what minimum triple or quadruple or whatever.
Pure guests on my part, they want to monopolize it.
What do you mean like they already have the monopoly
pretty much. ESPN don't carry most of the bowl games.
Now I'm talking about the CFP. Your home for the
CFP is ESPN. Okay, they're saying, if it's twenty four games,
they can't handle them all, they can't carry them off. Financial, Yeah,

(38:57):
I can always find a spot. I trying to figure
this out. I don't know. Yeah, oh there's there's there's
always a space to put them on. You put them
a Hulu, Disney Plus, ABC, ESPN, ESPN two. There's Oh,
there's there's a spot. They're just like, you know what,
We've already given you guys enough. But it's interesting that
if ESPN feels this way, that they're saying, adding just

(39:17):
a layer a teams would be a layer right. One
additional weekend in their minds, whether it's true or not,
would mean they don't get to really own the product
because they've already probably said with the door shut and
the and the lock locked, we cannot give the College
Football Playoff any more money. We are tapped out. We
are tapped out with our coverage of the NBA, We

(39:39):
are tapped out with the coverage of soccer, We are
tapped out with our coverage of baseball college basketball. We
just have a threshold that we cannot get past. And
adding four more games because the CFP is gonna want
crazy money for four games. Your sun Belt champion versus
potential Wake Forest thrown it out there. ESPN's like, we're

(40:05):
not going to if they did. Yeah, let me try
to pull up the rankings from last year. Would it
be one through eight gets a bye and then the
next sixteen teams all play, and then that gets you
down to sixteen. I don't think you're looking for buyers.
I think that you're looking for more games. You can't.
You can't. Twenty four doesn't go into a bracket though. Uh,
you get a two twelve team bracket. You could Yeah, no,

(40:27):
you couldn't. Okay, so you'd have to you know, one
B one by weekend. Yeah. So if eight by, that
would mean eight have a bye. That means sixteen left
and they would play down to eight. So you would
have eight on a by and eight who have won
one game. Then you're at sixteen. Yeah, okay, that makes sense. Yeah,
so that would mean nine versus twenty four. Last year,

(40:48):
that would be Alabama versus North Texas and Notre Dame
versus Navy. Oh yeah, they the ESPN sign up for this.
I feel like Houston would be in well, I mean
this is the final run with signing you. We just
had a conference commissioner. So they don't want it. Yeah,

(41:09):
right now could probably at a certain price. They say
we don't want it, no matter what. I wouldn't say,
I wouldn't say. They would say unequivocally, no matter what,
we don't want it. Yeah. I mean, look, commissioners lie,
Television executives loe. Yeah. Brian Bogacevic does not lie. He's
next here on Sports Talk seven ETTI is the Matt
Thomas Show with Ross leven O three Sports Talk SEVENINTI

(41:32):
let's spend ten quality minutes with our good friend Brian
brogus Evich. You see him on sc h N Bogie.
I think people were a little nervous about what Joe
said before the game. Throw strikes, throw to your strengths.
He threw two pitches and we were talked about this

(41:53):
about a forty five minutes ago on the radio show.
It feels like if you're a major league pitcher, even
though you're trying to get out of your doldrums, Diversey
can sometimes help you a little bit. Unfortunately, when it
was so heavy on the four seam fastball and the slider,
I think they were the intelligence report got to the
Mariners fairly quickly and they beat up on him in
the middle of the game. Yes, last night.

Speaker 7 (42:13):
Yeah, it became pretty predictable pretty quickly, and you know,
it kind of surprised me a little bit after the
game when Emi was talking and he said, you know,
he wants to get back to the way he pitched
in Japan, which was mainly forcing fastball and the slider.
So I went back and looked at some of the
scouting reports this morning, stuff that people had written up

(42:34):
seeing him in Japan, and that is very much true
when it comes to facing righty's, but he threw a
lot of change ups, split fingers to left handers and
his time in Japan and that was a very left
handed dominant lineup. So I don't know that it's necessarily
just this is the way I pitch, and I'm going
to try to get back to my strength. It seems
like there's more going on there, certainly with the with

(42:56):
the change up and just not being comfortable with it
there physically, you know, being able to throw it where
he wants it, or mentally just not having the confidence
in it. But yet it was a pretty glaring absence
and something that you really need to get through a
left handed heavy lineup.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Another thing that bothered me last night and obviously didn't
make that big of a difference, is there were two
free passes, essentially extra bases stolen. Wise, Emi just did
not pay much attention over there. The long stride doesn't
help the case. Is that just him focusing so much
on trying to throw strikes and he just sometimes forgets
about who's over at first base.

Speaker 7 (43:38):
Yeah, that's what it looked like. It looked like his
you know, entire focus was on home plate and everything
else around him kind of you know, disappearing, and it
kind of speaks to a broader just sense of what
it looks like, right, you know, is the fight that
you're going through internal or external, And it looked it's

(44:00):
like he's very much internalizing everything. It's trying to get
out of his own way. It's trying to get my
mechanics right. It's trying to execute my pitch. It's trying to,
you know, make sure that I'm throwing to where I
want to when at the end of the day, once
you get out, like that's fine in the bullpen and
that's fine and your throwing work, and that's fine when
you're you know, working on stuff when you're on the
mound and it's the game like it's an external competition.

(44:22):
It's you versus the hitter. It's you and the game
that's going on around you. You know, it doesn't matter
if you have a good feel for this pitch or
if you feel good or like, just just compete, you know,
compete against the guy in the batter's box. Compete against
the other team, not against yourself. And it feels like
he's very much internalized and everything that he's dealing with

(44:43):
is kind of in within him, and it's not just
I'm out here competing. I don't even know if I
have my good stuff or not, but I got to
try to figure out a way to get guys out
and give us a chance to win. It seems like
it's just solely inward focused.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
The funk the answers are in this year is not
completely about tatsuy email. It's mostly and most recently been
about the Astros offense. If you were in the clubhouse
what you occasionally are and Cam Smith came over to
you and said, hey, Brian, what are you seeing from me?
We were kind of hoping. We were talking last hour
about things that were optimistic about what could be vastly

(45:19):
improved from the second half of last year to the
first half of this year, and unfortunately Cam is back
in that run again. What would you tell him if
you if you were to pull him aside.

Speaker 7 (45:27):
Well, I think for him, the thing that's been most
important for him from day one when he broke with
the club last year is being on time, and really
being on time, not just trying to get started earlier,
but actually getting to your hitting position. And there are
times when he does, and there are times when he doesn't.
Even when he is trying to be early and trying

(45:50):
to be ahead of the fastball, he just doesn't get
there with his hands and with his loads sometimes and
when you see I forget which that bad it was.
But he had a county today where it was like
a two to zero count or very much a hitters count,
fastball count, fastball pitcher, and it was just late, you know,
foul ball over the first base, dugout, jammed, and it's

(46:11):
just like you're just not getting on time, and just
go back to all your cues, go back to watching
the video and see if if you're actually even if
you feel like you're getting there, go back and check
and see if you're actually getting there, because because it's
not always right, and if you're not on time, if
you're not on time to the fastball, you can't make
adjustments off of that, and everything gets thrown into He goes.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Haywire sticking with the hitting, but somebody on a different
spectrum of their career. Jose L two vey what you're
seeing from him as far as the I mean the
hot start. Obviously wasn't going to hit like that all
season long, but has has been in a deep funk.

Speaker 7 (46:46):
Yeah, it's been it's been a while, but I think
we're seeing signs of it. You know, he got he's
on base a couple of times. Yesterday, he had three
hits first day against Seattle. And it's not just oh
he's getting hits, he's coming out of it. It's what
the hits look like and where they're you know, their
balls barreled back up the middle, their balls, you know,
off the plate away that he's staying on and shooting
the other way, because that's what we saw a lot

(47:08):
of the first whatever it was fifteen games of the season,
when he was really focused on middle the other way,
not I'm trying to yank the ball. I'm trying to
hit the ball out of the ballpark. It's just I'm
trying to throw the barrel at it and get hits.
And I think some of that, maybe a lot of
that has to do with being back into the lead
off spotting in front of Jordan. You're no longer you know,

(47:29):
in the four hole or five hole run producer hit
for power drive runners, and it's just, hey, get on base.
If you have to take a walk, that does the job.
If you just shoot a ball through the four hole
to the right side, that does the job. Also, I
feel like with where he needs to be for that
consistency matches up well with top of the order table

(47:50):
setter in front of Jordan. And you know, it's only
two games, but we've seen a little bit of that
in the Seattle series. Maybe that kind of gets him
going again.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Brian Bokasvik was here on Sports Talk seven ninety h
Lansba Collor's junior is on the hill as far as
we know tonight, what what is going on with the
Apparently did the nail fell off his pointer finger? And
I thought, don't pitchers use their their fingernails to kind
of grip and spin the ball.

Speaker 7 (48:17):
Yeah, if you I mean, if you think about his curveball,
he kind of spikes it to throw that curveball, so
you're digging in. But I don't know. I mean, I
know that he was going through regular throwing programs and
was out there on the field and working out, and
he's throwing today, so it must be good enough. I
wonder if you know when it initially tore off in
his last start, you know, raw skin, it kind of

(48:38):
doesn't feel good and you don't have a good feel
for it. Maybe maybe it hardened up and stiffened up
a little bit over over the course of the last
five days, and now is good enough because it's not
it's not necessarily the nail that you're digging in with.
It's just the pressure on the tip of your finger.
So as long as you can press with like that
without pain and it feels right, you should be okay.

(48:58):
But he needs it because that curveball is his putaway weapon.
You know, he's going to go out there and if
he gets ahead in the coount, it's gonna be curveballs,
and they need to be good because this is a
Mariner's lineup that they are very much mistake hitters. If
you leave those breaking balls up, they'll hammer them.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Brian, I was listening to our morning show today here
on seven ninety and they were talking about, you know,
when you get into a rut, do you go to
a veteran leader. Do you go to a guy that say, hey,
media comes in ask questions. You got to kind of
wear it for the team. When teams are down, and
they brought up Jose al two Big almost exclusively. You

(49:36):
and I have known Jose for a very long period
of time. He is a man, a leader of actions,
and ultimately, if he's got something to say, he's going
to do it with the doors closed and no television
cameras and no reporters anywhere near him. Let me ask you,
from another tough loss in a building, another seven or
eight run deficit, do players sometimes appreciate the fact that

(50:00):
the microphones will go to that leader and they have
to bear the brunt of those questions Or is it
a little bit of over importance that that a that
a leader has to take those kind of comments when
teams are suffering the way they are right now.

Speaker 7 (50:17):
No, I think it's I think it's appreciated. I think
it's respected, and I think that's just kind of how
teams are built. You know, there there there are pecking
orders and hierarchies in clubhouses, and you know it comes
with the good and the bad. But you know, the
biggest thing is you just want you want guys to

(50:38):
be genuine. You want your leaders to be genuine in
you know they will they will step up and be
the leader of the team when it's good, and they
will step up and be the leader of the team
when it's not going well. And and how they lead
is the same, good or bad. And you know, you
get guys who do it in different ways. But but
the biggest thing is are they going to show up

(50:58):
tomorrow and and do the same things that they did,
you know, maybe when it was going well at the
beginning of the season or something. And that's that's how
you have the calming influence on the younger players in
the clubhouse. Is if they see you not panicking, if
they see you not drastically changing your routine and trying
to do things differently, it doesn't really matter what, you know,

(51:21):
a veteran says in front of the cameras after the game.
It's just kind of what they have to do. It's
can you show up and you show me how we're
supposed to act. And those guys are so good at
just keeping calm and continuing to go about to go
about it the way they should, while also getting across
the point that, hey, there is a sense of urgency
that we need to turn it around here quickly.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Last question, Brian and those veterans, Jordan, we know what
the resume is. We know what Jeremy Paine is when
he's healthy. We know what Josel Tuba has been. There
are a lot of guys right now because of injuries,
getting an opportunity that otherwise wouldn't get it. And I
don't want to point out one particular player, but let's

(52:04):
just find a player that you have in your roster
X y Z, player that has a reputation of crushing
the ball at triple A, but there's a deficiency the
major league level that allows him not to stay at
the major league level, and he's doing the same sort
of thing. I mean, that's why I think pessimism probably
is a little high, because you're asking guys that have
never done it before to step up and be something

(52:25):
they have not been before. So what's the balance in
rooting for a guy to finally pull through, but ultimately
knowing that there's deficiencies in their game, whether it's not
ability to throw strikes as a pitcher, or ability to
hit a curveball or not strike out a lot, or
not be a big RBI producer.

Speaker 7 (52:44):
Yeah, I mean, you have guys who are organizational depths,
and they're there in that role for a reason, and
and this it's it's okay. And they're useful to fill
roles for short periods of time because you can use
them in situations where you can play to their strengths

(53:05):
and hide some of those weaknesses, and you can try
to pair them with other guys on the team for
maybe platoon roles or splitting time and try to massage
it a little bit. Where you get in trouble is
when you have to rely on guys for extended periods
of time, or three or four of them at the

(53:25):
same time, and you just you can't hide the deficiencies anymore,
and that's a very difficult thing to do. That's when
you kind of feel like your hands are tied as
a manager and you have to put guys out there
and just kind of hope that they play over their
heads for a while, and we kind of saw that
for a little bit early on with the pitching when
just so many guys were hurting so many guys before

(53:46):
Ragetti came and Lambert came and really settled it down
a little bit. It's like, you know, if you're depending
on somebody for one start here or there, that's fine,
you can figure that out. But if it's we got
to run somebody out there every five days for three months,
eventually it's just gonna get exposing. There's nothing you can do.
So that's the biggest thing with the amount of injuries

(54:07):
that they can cover up. You can cover up for
any one injury for a short amount of time, but
a lot of injuries over extended period of time. Eventually
you just don't have the personnel to do that.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
And that's what I'm afraid of right now. What's going
to happen unfortunately the local NNE Brian, thanks for the visitors.
Always look forward to catching you on Space City later.
This evening got Brian Bogas epic with us every Wednesday
here on Sports Talk seven. Euty ROSSI, you gotta shut
your bull mass up. In fifteen minutes. Oh, thank goodness,
it's kind of cathartic I this week, isn't.

Speaker 10 (54:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (54:33):
You know, well, ain't nobody got time for a lot
of these astros pictures. Ain't nobody got time for that?
Shut your bull mass up. In fifteen minutes, we've got
the Texans officially going to London. We'll get to that
in a minute as well here on Sports Talk seven etty.
So the schedule leaks are out, and we are your
home for NFL schedule leak Sports Talk seven ninety tomorrow

(54:55):
at seven o'clock. You know, everybody can finally be patient
and get every game. But the NFL didn't announce yesterday
that the Texans officially are actually this morning that they're
going to London to play the Jaguars. Oh wow, you
butcher flight, I'm not going. Oh why not the jack
Texans Jaguars? No, yeah, jolly good London. I've been to

(55:19):
London one time. I didn't like it. They don't call
me mister in London, No they don't. No, I don't
want them to call me mister London. I got the
state of Texas are all wrapped up. No, you don't.
All right? So uh now cause and discuss why the
Jaguars get to play a second game there a week
before it's a home game for them, get a rest.

(55:41):
Are the Texans at a disadvantage? Seven one, seven ninety.
Apparently the Jaguars are gonna play two straight games there,
so I'll have a chance to relax and get ackt
them into the time change. Could be a crutch, could
be a problem, could cost a Texans AFC South. Let's go,
what do you think stopped me that way? Try to

(56:04):
get back up my feet. Stop wrong with you? That's
wrong with you? Well, the Texas time change affected team?
That's performance seven one three two one two five seven ninety.
I hope not too much. They get over there early, right,
they get to like four three four days early. Now
some of the East Coast teams like go like two days.
You're like, ah, we don't be there that one. Yeah,

(56:25):
the first day is easier, the second day, the third,
second and third days, at least my experience with jet lag,
that's when you really start hurting. Hopefully they bring their
own water and stuff. I don't know. Make sure you're
using water in London and bad I don't know. Sometimes
sometimes you know, the microbes are different, Matt, I didn't
know that the gut Biome or whatever I went one time.
If I never go back to London again, London again,

(56:45):
I'll be okay. Now we're gonna go next summer or
next ago. But it's so expensive, it is. It's really bad.

Speaker 11 (56:50):
You're not.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Hopefully you are. I need you to. I mean, that's
fair for you to say these things. It's fair enough.
I know it's fair, mister fall promises. It's fair too.
I mean you have to take the I don't want
you to go, although I don't know, doesn't sound like
a super relaxing trip. You're gonna be go, go going,
yelling at your boys about catching the train to Liverpool.

(57:12):
Going to soccer games. You shut your bumb ass up.
You are going to have a great time. The atmosphere
at these games is unlike anything that you can get
in America, unless maybe you're talking like college football. For
a really really big game, it's gonna be extremely unique.
It's big games. You go, you go to a Dynamo game,
it's fun. You're going to a Premier league game, like,

(57:34):
it's gonna be fun where they're singing and swearing, yeah,
drinking beer. The whole time. It's gonna be a good time.
You know what, I will say this, maybe maybe a
light bulb will go on for you. I'll have a
good time. Yeah, I'll enjoy the experience. Bumb mess up,
you say multiple times? Next second's fine? Oh sorry, I'm
getting ready, getting stretched, ready for the game. It used

(57:56):
to be a big deal when teams are announced it,
but we're gonna see in the NFL, everybody'snna play one game.
I feel like in the next two to three years,
you're gonna have week one through Week fourteen, week fifteen
playing somebody international. They won't do it towards the end
because I think that would be be a difficult disadvantage
for teams that are trying to compete in for a
playoff spot to fight jet leg and plus you don't
want it. You don't want to have the off week

(58:17):
so late in the season because usually you get an
off week after you play the game overseas to get
your body back. I commended to it. So I think
week one through week thirteen, you're gonna see Brazil. You're
gonna see China, Australia, Japan, Mexico, Brazil, Lots of games
in London, Paris, Uruguay, all those places. So you know,

(58:45):
I we'll get closer to it. We'll start asking people
if they're gonna go. But that's gotta be what ROSSI
expense of I don't know to do it halfway right,
you're going there for six seven days. You would think
you're looking probably fifteen grand to go to a game.
Between the buy and the tickets and the airfare and
the hotel and the sight seeing. I feel like you

(59:06):
should go to London, I mean Europe for at least
two weeks if you're gonna bother getting jet lagged on
the way they are and the way back because you
lose time. Yeah, when you get jet lagged there. And
the thing of it is we should make sure we're
very clear on this. They're not doing it for us too.
They're not doing it for Oh Texans fans all across
the country can go see them play. They're doing it

(59:27):
because there's an appetite for NFL football London. Do I
think it's worthy of every single week? I don't know.
I don't live there. I don't know the experience. They're
trying to grow the game. This is all for revenue.
This is all This is all a long term plan
because they've squeezed just about every dollar they can out
of us here in America, so you grow the game goal,

(59:47):
but globally they're going to the blueprint is the NBA.
NBA is massive around the world compared to where it
was thirty years ago, and it's opening huge avenues for
revenue in China and Europe, in all those other places
around the world. Do you think Adell would ever have
the Stones will put a Super Bowl there? I mean,

(01:00:08):
if the if the price is right, I don't see
why the six hour difference wouldn't be that big of
a deal for the Super Bowl. Because here's the thing why.
I first, when we first talked about this many years ago,
I said, there's no way you can't. You can't. You
can't treat the fans that poorly in this country by
sending the best game of the league. But you've got
seventy five thousand people that are going there that are

(01:00:29):
of two hundred million people that are watching the game.
We don't You could put the game on in to Peaka, Kansas.
We're gonna watch the game. I don't care how many
people at the Super Bowl are Joe fan it's mostly
just corporate gland handers and high executives and then you
know they're they're they're throwing parties. But it would be like, well,

(01:00:49):
French Open would be a bad example, Wimbledon. What is
something that has done overseas all the time if you're
brought of the US and people would consider it to
be all of a slam to the other other other
sport to that country, like World Cup moves around obviously, Yeah,
but this it would be an American sport. What sport
is truest to its form in another country and you

(01:01:10):
brought its world champ I mean, would you could it
be oh, the Premier League Championship could be in Miami, Yeah,
that'd be that be insulting. Yeah they don't Yeah, they
don't do playoffs, so but yeah under a cup a
Cup final. I was always of no way to tell
you can't do this under any circumstance. But I'm thinking
to myself, I don't where. Do I care where it is.
I'm gonna be in front of my television. Yeah, I

(01:01:31):
don't care. I'm not going to the super Bowl. We
go to Radio Row in Jolly London. We didn't see
the show, would be from No, it'd be it would
be better, I think right, No, it would be worse.
Never mind, the show would start at four am local time.
Yeah we're not. We don't go to California much less
that so wait never mind, no wait, I'm dumb. What
time is it there now? It's uh five pm? Five pm? Okay, no, yeah,

(01:01:57):
it goes the other way. I liked it. Hey, we'll
put on some crappy guests for you. We've got Coyle
Turny joining us on the show today. I like this.
I just googled British NFL players. Here's say new Traore

(01:02:19):
who and Travis Clayton. These are the British football players.
They're coming up here on the show and we're gonna
have them talk about how they can get you can
take care of uh oh Jay, Jay London morn oh
see you, Minora. Yeah, we're good here. Coming up next

(01:02:39):
it's Jay, Jay, Jay and Jay how to get rid
of gout plus talk at NFL football. I love it.
Let's do it all right, Listen, it's time for some
of you to shut your bumbasses up and not me.
All right, If you want to call me out, that's fine.
Anybody got time for something. Anybody got time for that?
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Hey nobody, get tap for it?

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Speaker 6 (01:03:42):
Shit, tobam mass up man.

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That was Matt Thomas, not me. Ross Love you, I
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Thanks for your guitar. You're number one in my heart.
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Of course, there's very few people that are eighty three
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all right, seven one three two seven. You want to
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a lot of things going on here. Uh to the

(01:04:11):
white Mercedes Benz who cut me off trying to get
to the building this morning, Nice and I yelled at
you and swore at you a lot. You didn't hear me,
but I put up only one middle finger up to you.
I still say, shut your bumb ass up. That double
I couldn't. I had one of the hands in the wheel.
That's good. I'm proud of you. Wheel with your knee.
I'm getting it the other way. Uh, ross, what's the

(01:04:34):
matter with you? This week? I got bait and switched
Direct TV. Yeah, I'm calling you out my name. I
tried to sign up for the little sports package. It's
supposed to be cheaper, and they're like, by your local
team for twenty dollars a month. I'm like, oh cool. Well,
apparently I don't know if it's actually s Ehn's problem
or Direct TV's problem or whoever. Apparently I can only

(01:04:57):
get the Rangers.

Speaker 7 (01:04:58):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
I get on the phone with the lady who I mean, Look,
I appreciate her, but she doesn't speak. She doesn't understand
English very well, and I'm trying to explain her I'm
in Houston. She's like, oh, you get to text strangers.
I was like, no, I am in Houston. I'm on
the phone with them for forty five minutes. Then I
got to switch some other planet. Jack's up my bill.
So I got switched bait and switched DirecTV. Anybody got

(01:05:22):
time for you? I hate all of y'all fubos into
disputin her and NBC. I have been a maret Rere
Yeah subscriber for twenty five years. Well, they rolled out
these all card packages to where you only get the
sports for like fifty bucks and then you add your
local team for twenty That sounds perfect for me because
I only watch sports. I'm not watching a Lifetime movie

(01:05:42):
network like you. I'm not watching sci fi, I'm not
watching Bramo. I just need sports. So I'm trying to
get the sports only package and I can't know it.
I get bait and switched. Now it's one hundred and
eight dollars. Dude, you got screwed.

Speaker 6 (01:05:57):
Shit obum mass up man.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
I know well I you don't have sc HN No,
I haven't now, but I's costing me more. It's cost
me like twenty dollars more a month. Why don't you
just buy it off the app? Jack Vanessa and Julia
Taylor do because you can't pause, and rewind and record.
M sorry, I need to be able to do those things.

(01:06:20):
That's true. Fubo sucks Exfinity. I used to go with them,
but then their four K con It only comes from
the four K box. The box goes out every six months.
And the guy was the guy that gave me the box,
He's like, yeah, they just always break. They always people
always bring back the four K boxes. They just break
and those are my only options. I hate all of you. Hey,

(01:06:43):
nobody gets that it late stage capitalism is fantastic. No
options and by the way, customer service, no, my guess
is the person you spoke to in not in America, right, Yeah,
gotta be in bangled. Look, I appreciate them or whatever.
I'm trying, like normally maybe if you got a billing issue,
that can figure it out. But I literally just could
not explain to this person that I am in Houston
I should be able to get the Houston Astros in

(01:07:05):
Houston Rockets.

Speaker 7 (01:07:08):
She did.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
It was beyond her understanding. Yeah, because she gets I'm
wishing her questions. No you're not. I am wishing her
the best. It's not her fault. She didn't know what
the hell she's talking about. What's the matter with you? Uh?

Speaker 13 (01:07:24):
You know this is a serious topic. And I really
didn't know it was this bad. You know, we're in America.
I don't care if you drink on a Monday afternoon,
you know, I don't care. But getting hammered right on
a Tuesday afternoon, just you know, just getting straight up
hammered and then going and driving your own car and

(01:07:46):
not giving someone your keys. Like I saw that literally yesterday.
It was out with Ivanama girl, and there was might
been in like six dudes. I mean gone, oh yeah,
we're head. I will go some else, sorry, driving their
own cars. It's pulled off fast, and my stomach dropped.

Speaker 7 (01:08:05):
Dude.

Speaker 13 (01:08:05):
I'm like, I just I can't like y'all just get
some good of uber do something, man, And nobody got
time for that. People die every other day because of
this stuff. And I really didn't think it was that
big of a deal. It just happens, you know, the outliers.
But this was like comment like it was like the
whole group of folk, and I don't I don't know, man,
this is it's nasty.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
It's extremely common. I remember it was eye opening when
I was an Uber driver and I was driving people
late and seeing the like you just have to have
your head on a swavel. I saw somebody, uh, somebody
driving the wrong way on the freeway. When I was
an Uber driver, I saw multiple people getting into res
I see it. It's just everywhere. And I'm not gonna

(01:08:45):
get on my high horse and act like I've never
been over the limit and driven. It's bad. When I
was younger, I don't do that. You learn at some point,
and especially this day and age, when you have Uber,
you have lyft. There is no excuse for way moo,
whatever it takes, there is no excuse for it. I'm
with you, Jonathan, drunk driving. Ain't nobody got time for that.

Speaker 13 (01:09:03):
Hey, nobody got time for just sad man, just just
I'm if I could say what I really wanted to say,
You're putting yourself and others at risk take an Uber
and especially because if you're gonna drink on a Tuesday
or it doesn't really matter today at the worlkoholic.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
I'm sorry, go ahead if you want to go bar hopping.
You're bar hopping from one bar to the next, probably
within two miles of each other, right one or two miles.
Those are six seven dollars. Uber rides every way to
save your life. To not have to worry about getting
in your car and risk that kind of penalty for
twenty five thirty bucks is ridiculous, That's what I'm saying.
I mean, I don't mind.

Speaker 6 (01:09:38):
You can get plasted on a Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 13 (01:09:40):
I'm not gonna judge you. But as soon as you
know that, just I couldn't. I can't fathom that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
All right, Well we went to a little of a
serious tone on that, but nevertheless a good psa all
of us here at sports Talk seven adding yes, all right,
let's take a phone call. We'll talk to Alan and
the rest of you at seven one three two one
two five seven ninetys. Something come matter with you? Let
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your bum ass up, Let's go seven one three two

(01:10:07):
one two five sevenati seven one three two one two
five Seminati with Matt and Ross and Jonathan This is
Sports Talk seven, where Ross is here to tell you
about if you're gonna go bar hopping, do it, responsibility?

Speaker 6 (01:10:26):
Shit to bum ass up?

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
Man, Hey, ain't nobody got time for that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
I've been listening to We're gonna play some Dana Brown
at twelve thirty today, wonderful. I'm gonna tell you he's Bush.
I'm shocked. Now you're shocked that Dana Brown is being optimistic.
He's gotta be so. If you are the optimistic astro fan,
you're going to love twelve thirty.

Speaker 7 (01:10:55):
If you are the.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Astro of Twitter, you're gonna despise it. Maybe tune out.
We don't need to hear from y'all, honestly. I mean, look,
we got one hundred and twenty games left to go
care thereabouts right, just because the team's up the tie
for the worst record in baseball? Oh my god?

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
What NBA Playoffs? What we got on tonight? We got
Cleveland Detroit. Oh, that's a good one. Tied up to you.
By the way, Darren Moury out as a general manager
of the felad Offhicue have gone but not forgotten. Is
he gonna catch on anywhere else? Oh, I'm sure he will.

(01:11:39):
I'm sure. So let's see what's fifty He's only fifty three,
been around a long time. He was a gym and rockets.
Is he very young? I was very young? Yeah, very smart.
Let's go to Scott ed River Oaks.

Speaker 14 (01:11:50):
Hi, Scott, All right, what's up, guys?

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
How are we doing?

Speaker 11 (01:11:54):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
What's the matter of you?

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Scott?

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Tell me, Scott, tell me, tell me, tell me so?

Speaker 14 (01:11:59):
You know, so I could call in to talk about
the Astros. I'm known to them at this point. So
I wanted to break some other news other than sports.
Another hobby it something I have to follow is true crime.
So I thought that might be a better use of
my time to call into that. There was a breaking
news this morning. Are you guys familiar with who Alex

(01:12:20):
Murdoff is, the guy who killed his wife and son
in South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Yes, he has been released.

Speaker 14 (01:12:28):
Really, I don't think he's been released, but it was
his murder conviction was overturned by a Supreme court this morning,
which is beyond on a technicality some yeah, some kind
of technicality. Now he's not going to get out of prison.
I don't think because he got convicted for all the
financial crimes of robbing his clients. But yeah, they overturned
his murder conviction. How insane is that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
I mean, it's clear that was there kind of a
procedural error in his in his arrest or something.

Speaker 14 (01:12:55):
Yeah, there was a procedural area in the trial where
some maybe directed the jury to in a biased manner
or something along those lines. So ain't nobody got time
to redo the whole trial or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
I mean, but he's going to get a new trial
though he's not. He's not off Scott free.

Speaker 14 (01:13:15):
No, Yeah, he's going to get a new trial and
I don't even think he's but still, I mean, they're
going to make a family go through all that again
and all the witnesses and everything else.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
That's yeah. I watched that Netflix documentary. That was insane.
I'm seen he did that did oh yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:13:30):
So basically, Matt, what happened is his son three years earlier,
they were very well to do family in South Carolina.
His son they owned a boat, killed a friend of
his in a boat driving at drum clock and driving
it recklessly. That his friend's family was suing them civilly
for financial game, you know, for financial compensation because of

(01:13:52):
that death, because of that lawsuit, the dad was going
to get exposed for basically stealing all sorts of money
from his client.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
He was a lawyer.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Oh okay, I guess.

Speaker 14 (01:14:02):
That pressure was getting to him. So he ended up
three years later. He was literally about to get exposed,
like within the next five days, and so.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
He killed his wife and that son what for insurance money?

Speaker 14 (01:14:14):
Right, well, to kind of steer the course, steer you know,
I don't know this guy. Yeah, it was like stop
the trail of what was about to happen to him,
because it put a temporary.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
He killed the son and his wife three days before
he was about to get exposed. That's crazy.

Speaker 14 (01:14:35):
And the reason he was about to get exposed was
because his son accidentally killed his friend while driving a
boat drum. So the Netflix stock, if you can imagine,
is one of the most insane. And by the way,
this is a very well to do family in South Carolina,
So like this was a huge not that I have
anything to do with South Carolina, but the story was insane. Yeah,

(01:14:56):
the Netflix documentary is crazy. They made a Hulu reenactment
TV show it with Jason Clark playing the dad.

Speaker 5 (01:15:02):
It was great that.

Speaker 14 (01:15:03):
It was Yeah, wild, wild stuff, so you don't to
think about other stuff to call.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
In and talk about. Yeah, that's fair enough, that's fair.

Speaker 7 (01:15:10):
Hey.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Uh, number one of my cue lists is this is
the Kevin Hart Roast?

Speaker 5 (01:15:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Where is that Netflix? Okay, I don't know. I'm interested
on this now. I forgot all about that. That story
sounds very intriguing, you know. So I saw the first
season of the documentary, and I'm not really big into
watching documentaries. It was good. It was insanely good. We're
like true crime stuff. I should say. I don't really
watch too much of all. Right, let's go to Alan

(01:15:39):
on seven on Alan, what's going on? Not much?

Speaker 5 (01:15:44):
How it just dropped in because you were talking.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
About games in London.

Speaker 7 (01:15:49):
I'm in London. You you guys coming over?

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
No, how are things in London? Of course right now
I was raining, Oh time is it? What time is
it there in London? Right now? It is officially five
five fifty five, so it's six hours out of us.
There are you going to go the game?

Speaker 4 (01:16:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Which game? The Bengals versus the Steelers? I don't know,
the Texans game.

Speaker 7 (01:16:21):
Oh no, no, no, the Texans versus the Jags are.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Going to be here.

Speaker 15 (01:16:26):
They are.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
And you got a bad connection there from London. Did
you know that Texans are playing the Jaguars in London
in October?

Speaker 6 (01:16:37):
Ross cio bum mass up man.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
I didn't know that, Matt. I'm just learning was the
London rain on his phone line. I was called a
very very rude name on the second deck of a
of a of a bus in London because I love it.
Is it ryaning with banker? No rhymes with bass mole? Okay?

(01:17:00):
Because I like Kim, who was I was dating at
the time, not married, I let her get in front
of me to get to walk off the second deck
to the first deck, and the guy was obviously gonna
hurry you go. Water called the double decker bus. Yeah,
isn't everybody chilling? Isn't that like a tourist thing? You
would think you shouldn't be in a hurry to get
off a double decker bus. That's funny, all right, final

(01:17:21):
call for shut your ball, my mass up. I ain't
nobody got time for that. Seven one three two one
two five seven ninety seven one three two one two
five seven nine We have the news at noon? Is
it the same old song for the Astros? Rossy kind
of feels like yes, Dana Brown at twelve thirty, if
you missed the conversations? Why are the TV lights on it?

Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
We we do.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
We try to do something differently. If I might just
late to the party on this one. It's been that
way for like an hour and a half, has it
say an hour and forty minutes? Probably since the first
break is when I saw because we might be recording
for for social media and the way you like the
lights doesn't look good on the television fortune, So it's
my fault. No, I didn't say that. Okay, good, I'm

(01:18:00):
plight Alan on seven ninety Allen, what do you got?

Speaker 4 (01:18:04):
Hey? Guys?

Speaker 16 (01:18:05):
Look, I love your show. You allow people to call
in and talk a lot of other shows don't do that.

Speaker 5 (01:18:09):
That's what I love about Shaw show.

Speaker 11 (01:18:12):
Uh.

Speaker 16 (01:18:12):
And I'm sorry to Astro suck. They've been my team forever.

Speaker 6 (01:18:15):
But how do I score some cheap decent tickets?

Speaker 7 (01:18:20):
Where do I go to find them?

Speaker 5 (01:18:22):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
Well, you could probably go to anyone. Thanks Alan for
the phone call. We do love when people calling and
talk to the show, talk to us on the show,
I would assume go to your secondary ticket markets or
I don't know, walk right up to the front the
ticket window at the stadium, get them at face value.
They still have ticket windows at stadiums, sure, right along Texas, right,

(01:18:47):
Yeah windows.

Speaker 13 (01:18:48):
What's up with this MLB face recognization for your tickets?

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Yeah, don't sign up for that. I forgot all about these.
You must have been you must have that doesn't well,
I don't know. I guess I'm out of touch because
normally I.

Speaker 13 (01:19:06):
Use my credential. They were, dude, and now I feel
like I'm gonna get surveillance. They know, have your mice
all the stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Yeah, and all right, I'm gonna look at rub bub
and I'm gonna look for two tickets. Oh yeah, you
can get eight. You can get two tickets for eighteen
dollars in the secondary they're gonna pay you eighteen dollars. Wow,
two tickets together, twelve dollars including feet. Yeah, you're you
got If you want to go to the Bob to
the secondary market tomorrow is even better. Big game, they

(01:19:34):
said that again. You want to go to the rub
R Yeah, uh, you want to sit right behind home
plate in the lower one hundred is one hundred and
twenty three dollars. That's super super cheap. But you can
get in the second deck seventeen dollars, eighteen dollars, thirteen dollars,
seventeen dollars, twelve dollars. This is not what we want.

(01:19:58):
We're not here to give you discount ticket of opportunities.
I mean, it's not the worst thing in the world
and take the family for cheap. No, but that means
because the team sucks. I don't want that. I don't
want to watch a little nine to two loss, Get
a couple of bruised, do the wave and go home.
You said the wave. It's a nine to two, matt

(01:20:19):
they can do the wave.

Speaker 7 (01:20:20):
They cannot.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
We are not ever going to endorse the wave. I
don't care how bad the team gets. Would you rather
do the wave or watch Camp Smith strike out again?
Don't do Cam Smith like that? Sorry you shame Cam Smith.
Sorry people, you don't Smith.

Speaker 7 (01:20:35):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
He's the one hitting two o three, Okay, fine, Zach Dezenzo,
Zach Cole. I can go down the list, brings Matthews
after everything? Can't Smith different? Cam's a good kid too?
What did he do? He said? His prayers and ate
his vitamins. I mean, I appreciate him, but he's not
been good. He's not good at the plate out there. Yeah,

(01:20:56):
I guess he's healthy. That's good playing six days a week. Well,
he's the one out there. He's only the only one
out there healthy. So who's the only one I can name?
Strike it out? Everybody else's hurt. That's the thing, Jonathan,
here's the thing. We're gonna talk about players that we
actually like, like Zach Call strikes out all the time. Yeah,
but they're not. They don't. They don't put niceness on
the scoreboard. They put runs on the scoreboard. Is probably

(01:21:20):
a swell fella. Yeah, Nick, he's terrible. Yeah, they don't.
Who hands out the nicest prayer cards in the clubhouse?
That's doesn't make the scoreboard. Okay, you don't. Who gets
hits and scores runs is on the scoreboard. You don't
win pennance by bringing your mom out the clubhouse and
celebrating making a major league roster. Damn, it's not major
league baseball. Not major league from all right, News and

(01:21:44):
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I'll stop Martin. We'll assess your trees and safely trim
dangerous limbs away from your roof and your neighbor's home.
Did heard fourteen letter jackets? Cut me some slight jack Sleep, Sleep,

(01:22:29):
You've got.

Speaker 5 (01:22:39):
The fame.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
It's the same.

Speaker 11 (01:22:49):
Sock.

Speaker 7 (01:22:50):
But it's the.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
Same but.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
Rill each left field and you can kiss that one goodbye. Off.
The community leader signs to run homer for Randy. A
rose Arena and the Mariners have a two to nothing lead.
A rose a Raina is fourth of the year. It
will work from the wind up.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
It's the bases loaded. This one is hammered to right field,
and that one is going back and that is gone
a grand slam. Dominic can zone his fourth home run
of the season, and just like that, Seattle jumps on
top big.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
Six to two with the grand slam. First pitch slider
right down the middle and it went over the right
field fence. We don't serotype here on the show.

Speaker 6 (01:23:57):
But domine gain the zone.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Me, me and my Oh good lord, a grand salami.
That's a salami with a lot of be fin, spicy
and mustard on that salami. God, Hi Ross, how are you?
I'm not doing great in terms of sports fanom, but
in life in general, I'm doing fantastic. Yep, I've never
been better. Feeling good now, thanks for asking, and you're welcome.

(01:24:24):
It is Matta Ross with you here. We are here
today until two p m. Lord Willing, we had the
audio system was playing that this or that bad Yeah
from there from from in the Trenches show. If there's
new ways for us to sound like a radio station
from Acadocias, we always figure out a way to do

(01:24:45):
it for you here on the program. Hey, that's not
your fault. We used to sign you're also hating on
Ncadocia's that's a double hay. I'm sorry, Uh, Park City
dot City, Kansas. Is that better? Yes? Okay, I will
make sure you're happy with that, all right, Matt and
Ross with you. It's twelve night. We have a Dana
Brown conversation. Come up at twelve thirty. If your glass

(01:25:08):
is half full, on the Astros. You'll love it. If
your glass is half full, you'll hate it. Is there
anybody with the glass half full? Besides Dana Brown? People
are going to the games Republic seting, Oh, what was
the attendance last night? Well, announce er, what was actually there?

Speaker 7 (01:25:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
Have both, give me your estimate of both. And they
saw the pictures. It looked about half empty. Announced twenty
eight eighty nine. By the way, the Astros just sent
me an email. There are one, two, three, four, five
ten games between now and July fourth, which are the
all you can eat games explain starts this Friday in

(01:25:43):
sat O Friday Saturday for the Astros Rangers all you
can eat It is all you can eat nachos, hot dogs,
pretzels and more with his limited time offer. Here's the
problem with it. There's not enough protein in that should
be like segan, not enough protein. It's not chosen hot dogs,
it's protein enough meat. Nachos is not protein. Yeah, it

(01:26:04):
was a chili, A little bits of chili meat, little
chili mister meat. There's some protein in there somewhere. How
much does I call sandwich to tickets cost? I am
going to Saturday's game by the way all you can
eat nachos dogs and what nachos? Hot dogs, pretzels, popcorn?
Don't you think they would be like when you think like,

(01:26:25):
I don't think there's a nutritius on the planet who's
recommending this. No, when you want to choose like, I
don't know, chicken breast. Oh you want to go and
get like a a fahetas, Yeah, I mean I would
you know what if you gave you gave me all
you could eat and it was more protein, I'd pay
more money for it for sure. Oh you want the
Premium plus package. Yeah, so like some of your starts,

(01:26:47):
you want the press plus. Yeah. Uh, Hunter brown orange
jersey on Friday. That's good. And will he be there
to actually put it on? No, that's on the hero
and or there he might be there in the clubhouse.
It's true, working to the dugout, getting worked on. Yeah's
working on it. All right, let's get to the news

(01:27:08):
at noon. Please, sure why I'm gonna get your ticket?
Prices ten to two Astros lowise Seattle Mariners. You've just
heard the Grand Slam giving up by Tatsuo Emi also
two run shot, four innings, six earned runs. Guess if
we want to take a if you take two big
swings of the bat out, he didn't give up an

(01:27:29):
earned run. There's that. Two tickets, thirty seven dollars and
fifteen cents eat each and all you can eat, all
you can eat. I'll eat before. Is there extra fees
on top of that? I don't even know?

Speaker 15 (01:27:43):
Go on?

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Uh. He only threw two pitches and they were all
getting slammed. Ten of the thirteen balls hit in play
were hard hit ninety five miles an hour above average
ex of velocity of the game was like ninety six.
It's not good. Nothing in urging to come away with
from that. Tatsuo my star story. They said they're gonna
focus on throwing strikes, they said they were gonna limit

(01:28:07):
the repertoire. None of it worked. It was a disaster.
And he's their highest paid picture. Matt your thoughts. Their
second highest paid picture is coming up next to his
fingernails and not on. I mean, tatsu has been a
bus so far. Now, that doesn't mean he can't be.
It's been a bust. But I don't, I don't. What

(01:28:27):
does your gut tell you? My guy tells me he's
not gonna have it. A ninety ra all year. It's
gonna be better, Okay. I mean he's gonna be at
least he can round into like a fourth or fifth
starter hopefully. Okay, that's what I'm hoping for. I don't
think that he's gonna be so effective in Japan and

(01:28:49):
just out of nowhere, just be a complete disaster the
whole season. We do have to remember it's May thirteenth,
and he is in a whole other country and a
whole nother ballgame. And for example, Cam Smith is in
his second year in the major leagues and he's struggling. Obviously,
it's a different scenario. Tatsuimi has different expectations. He's being

(01:29:11):
paid more, but it takes guys years to hit their
stride at the major league level. So we're asking him
to do it in a month where he was hurt
for a few weeks. It's asking a lot, But of
course he's getting paid a lot, and everybody's hurt, so
we're gonna ask a lot of him. It's just this
team where if you flip their record and they're seven

(01:29:32):
twenty seven and sixteen, and Hunter Brown's healthy and Mike
Burrows is pitching well, and Javier didn't get hurt and
he's looking good. We're this is like, this is a
back burner story, but unfortunately it's from the line because
of all the injuries and the bad play. Right, what
a season of Tatsui Emi being in a minor league

(01:29:53):
system and made a lot of a difference. I guess
just being in America for a year would have helped,
but that wasn't what the term is were the terms were,
I'm an international player, I'm a sensation. I can't wait
to get to the United States to put the best
baseball possible. Or I can make the most money and
become the biggest star and it's Scotti be as hired
as my agent. So I have to basically skip the

(01:30:16):
I to the fat you're trying to go on the
fast track. Yeah, his plan this is also not going
to to two's plan. His plan was to come over
here deal and then opt out and get a big
money deal. That's not going to plan for Anybody's not
going to plan for anyone. Nope, that's right right now.
Uh did you see how cal Rally was able to

(01:30:37):
get a hit? Matt I shake off his bad mojo
and it's frankly disgusting. Go ahead tell the cal Rally
desperate to shake things up while mired and the longest
hitless streak in the majors this season. On the advice
of Logan, Gilbert showered in full uniform after Monday Night's game.
Tuesday Night, Rally got a couple of hits broken zero

(01:30:59):
for thirty eight slump against the Astros. Quote. Logan gave
me some good advice to watch off the bad mojo
or juju from the baseball gods. So it worked.

Speaker 7 (01:31:07):
He was right.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
I got to give him credit where it's due. Aren't
you just setting yourself up for like Itch Jocketch and
stuff like that. I don't know when do you take
off the uniform because you don't just walk around in it?
Do you shower in full uniform and then go back
and drip everywhere? How does this work? Sounds like a
lot of bacteria and fungi. Yeah, these are questions I

(01:31:30):
don't want to have answered by a guy who's nicknamed
Big Dumper. It's true he's had a terrible season. I mean,
I'm going from bortline MVP to borderline four a player.
Baseball gods. They have a sense of humor. They really do,
all right, Matt NFL is unveiling matchup for a record
nine game international slate. Houston Texan's going to be involved

(01:31:51):
as they are taking on the Jacksonville Jaguars. Now I
saw week five, but I thought I also saw week
Oh No, they did is week six. It's the Jags
and the Eagles in week five, and then it's the
Texans and the Jags in week six. Also, you're going
to have a player. Teams are playing in the Pelis
as well as Munich Steelers versus Saints in Paris. The

(01:32:15):
local has got a root for the Saints. Right by
the way, if you want today, if you want to
go to the game, what game? The Texans game. Let's
say you want to leave on Thursday, okay, and you
were to leave on Monday the fun of the day after, right, Okay,
it would cost you. This is this is unschmided nono

(01:32:40):
which you want? You don't want to change plans. You
don't go to Atlanta or Chicago.

Speaker 4 (01:32:43):
That have to it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
Okay, it's probably not super easy to get a bunch
of direct to London from Houston. Actually, more than more
than I think there is one dollars you're not gonna
buy it. Now, you're gonna wait? Is Texans down? Lean
gonna go to the game? What's wrong with you? I'm
asking questions. Darling's gonna go a game? You need to relax.
I'm doing great. I No, I'm worried about you. Are

(01:33:08):
you really?

Speaker 11 (01:33:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
I'm taking I'm taking the rest of the week off. Yeah, okay,
I can do it. No, I've been begging you to relax.
I'm working of ten years. I've been begging you to relax.
Oh my name is text Darling. I'm going there. I'm
gonna wear them all my bling and wear my country
hat and uh did she I'm gonna bring I'm gonna
bring them some chicken fried steak because they don't have
chicken fried steak in there in London. I need you
to go somewhere. I need you to wake up. I

(01:33:30):
need you to walk to the beach to the doctor
on Friday, catch the sunrise on the beach a virus.
Listen to the waves, just relax, listen, do the rhythm
of the falling rain there at the cloud astros, wind
to night, and then get up. Yes, go to lunch,
have a couple of pinuat Coladas, get caught me. Take
an afternoon nap. I'm taking a nap this sunset at

(01:33:53):
the beach. Don't do anything, Okay, that's what I need
from you, Not until my daughter graduates from high school,
full proottle, until you're your your full throttle until death.
That's what I'm worried about. You need you relax. You'll
be able to You'll be able to use these words
when I die. I told Matt to relax. I'm not
gonna spit on your grave and say I told you
so at your funeral. I'll think it, but I'm not

(01:34:14):
gonna say it. Oh you hear that, Jo You just
kind of think you but he won't say it publicly. Yeah,
how consider are you? That's called respect? Thank you very much.
I appreciate that. Leaven her from Darling in a long time.
Is she okay?

Speaker 7 (01:34:30):
C J.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
Strath's got to get that money, gotta pay that contract off.

Speaker 6 (01:34:34):
NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
Last night Rossi San Antonio, women Yama was great. Legend
beat up the Minnesota Timberwolves. I know Jonathan Allen wanted
to t Wolves plus ten and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
They lost.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
They lost my thirty. That's a gut feeling hit by me.
That is I got a gut feeling and I said,
give those points away. I know I should have made
you guys, me not worry about that, my friends.

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
Uh, Live radio sometimes gives you a bonus opportunity, unities
to do some things. We're gonna move a few things around.
Joe Spot's gonna join us in five minutes. He's got
ten for us, So to write a twelve thirty will
have it? Okay, Dana Brown, I do want you guys
to hear it. That'll be at one o five today.
Wonderful if you miss our Brian Bogas, have a conversation.
It's always a good perspective. Will habit for you at

(01:35:17):
one thirty we could believe or not at one fifty.
So we got a lot of baseball juju mixed in
here between now and the next ninety minutes. Real quick,
more coming out about this college football espn uh putting
trying to put the Kybosh on a twenty four team tournament.
Apparently they do very well financially and very well raadings
wise from conference championship games, and it's part of this

(01:35:39):
twenty four team model. They would go right from the
regular season to the playoffs, and not only would they
give an extra layer of games, but they would eliminate
conference championship games, which are very, very profitable for the network,
and they don't want to get rid of those. I
got to that makes sense because I don't think they
cared about the sanctity of the game. Because honestly, Alabama
versus North Texas doesn't move the needle. Versus Sovereign moves

(01:36:02):
the needle. So it kind of makes sense they're little
bit there, But that one pass that along. We've got
one NBA playoff game the night between the Cleveland Cavaliers
and Detroit Pistons. That series is tied to two games
apiece West. James Harden forty bomb You calling it no, Well,
I was probably thinking I'm gonna get if they's gonna
get a forty, I'm gonna calling him Matt Ross that

(01:36:22):
he's a great postseason player. You should the rest has
already been done. Yeah, he's got eleven forty point playoff games.
James Harden is not known as a good playoff player.
He just not I and I like James and he's
a good player. I don't think he's as bad in
the playoffs as people remember because of Yeah, he's had
some epic chokes, for sure. I think it's funny though.
I think Game seven's do me more than Game threes. Obviously,

(01:36:47):
games when you are the deciding game and you can't
come through that, that that that's people remember that kind
of stuff. So yeah, there may be eleven forty point games,
but how many how many of those eleven forty point
games have come in a Game seven? An outsiding game?
That's that's the guy, Come think think about it all right,
Joe spot It will join us next here on Sports
Talk seven ninety. We're going to talk to the skipper

(01:37:08):
of the Astros. Right after this, we had a few
technical snap who's yesterday? We are very fortunate to get
the manager of the Houston Astros, Joe A. Spotta, joining
us for ten minutes here on the radio program Skip.
It's Matt and Ross. Good afternoon. I don't ask you
a lot about what your postgame conversations are like with
your starting pitchers, especially when they don't perform well, but

(01:37:30):
yesterday was obviously a meaningful performance to get em back
on track. Can you give us a few little tidbits
of what that visit was like? And you know how
he's feeling, knowing that he did not go down to
the minor leagues and probably get the kind of success
that he wanted to before his start last night.

Speaker 15 (01:37:47):
Well, the visit will happen today. We will not happen
like the night of the start, especially when the outcome
the way he was. But I'll have a conversation with
him today. You know, I thought there were some flashes
of some good stuff that happened prior to that fourth inning. Uh,

(01:38:07):
and and I'm going to uh, you know, make sure
that he's aware of the good things he did in
some areas that we need to continue to improve.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
I thought he.

Speaker 4 (01:38:16):
Slider was.

Speaker 15 (01:38:19):
Worth inconsistent, which I think that that's an area that
that we need to we need to address. And also,
you know, maybe using uh you know, I know he
wanted to use his fastball slider, Yes, but I think
he's changing up.

Speaker 4 (01:38:32):
It's a it's a it's a good pitch, especially when
you have seven lefties in a lineup.

Speaker 15 (01:38:36):
So there's a conversation I have with I will have
with him today and hopefully his next one will be
will be better.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
I know that you talked before the game about maybe
just focusing on one or two pitches and getting those
over the plate and throwing strikes right. That isn't the
long term. But I would think for a guy who's
just trying to get back on a major league bump,
that you know, you want to take those small steps
when you can.

Speaker 4 (01:38:57):
Yeah, absolutely, you know he did. There is some there
is there were some things that he did.

Speaker 15 (01:39:01):
He did really well, you know, but for the long term,
right for for the duration of the season, for him
to be successful in this in this level, you know,
he needs all his repertoire to be able to mix them,
just like the way he did in Japan, throwing different counts,
different you.

Speaker 4 (01:39:20):
Know, uh different Velo. He's got to he's got to
be able to.

Speaker 15 (01:39:24):
Mix all his pitches and there's a composition that will
have with him today before you know he he's next start.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
What has it been like for you navigating this scenario,
because obviously, organizationally come a player coming over from Japan
and you're hoping that he's gonna acclimate he's talked about
having issues with that. Then unfortunately the arm and then
you're kind of dealing with it, and unfortunately, you'd love
to be in a situation where you didn't need have
a high level of pressure on him to perform, but

(01:39:53):
because of the injuries and the way that the team
is going right now, it feels like there's some extra
pressure as well.

Speaker 15 (01:39:59):
You know, you never there is never a perfect scenario
when you're going into a baseball season.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
There's all these there.

Speaker 4 (01:40:06):
You you plan a plan B, Plan C and and
and you try to do the best you can to
trying to help every individual in this room. Right, there's
no perfect scenarios, never in this game.

Speaker 15 (01:40:18):
You know, we we got to help them. We've got
to continue to have conversation with him and help him acclimate, right.
I think we I think he's in a better spot
when he comes to acclamation and feeling more more like.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
Part of the team.

Speaker 15 (01:40:32):
I think we are over that that step over that
hurdle now is you know, getting him to believe that
his stuff is good enough to compete at the menjor
league level.

Speaker 4 (01:40:42):
There is, you know, I.

Speaker 15 (01:40:44):
Feel like there's enough that he gives some of these
taters too much credit where he should be giving himself
credit to be performing at the manor league.

Speaker 4 (01:40:55):
Like you, he's good enough to come here.

Speaker 15 (01:40:58):
He earned that contract, right, He pitched to that level
where consider good enough to pitch in this level and
he needs to start believing in and that instead of
hitters in theividor league level do.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
X, Y and Z.

Speaker 15 (01:41:14):
No, it's just you're good enough to compete in this
level and get people out. That's that's the next hurdle
what we need to help them overcome. Where hey, believing yourself,
trust your stuff, and we have your backs.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
Astros manager Joe Spot up with us here on Sports
Talk seven to ninety. Offense hasn't been what you wanted either.
In the last several games you have run up against
some really good pitching as well. But what are you
seeing from your guys at the play?

Speaker 4 (01:41:40):
Yeah, we we have ran into some really good pitching.
That's that's for sure. But you know, the first day
we had Kirby, you know, ninety pitches to five.

Speaker 15 (01:41:50):
Right, yesterday we have Wu on the ropes on the
ropes and we had some call you have bats, we
tie the game up before big game, guy, kind of
out of hand. The quality of bats have been good.
We got some production from the bottomwood order yesterday. Some
walks you go by the sense, so Shoe may getting
some big hits for us. So we need we we

(01:42:11):
knew that going into this, you know, the way our
often started there there's always the ups and downs, right,
but the quality of the bats. We're starting to see
pitches again, Al twos starting to get hot again.

Speaker 4 (01:42:21):
Parade is starting to swing the bat well. So there
are the good things you know, under the hood in
our offense, you know, which which is always you know,
part of the season. But I'm sure that you know,
once we get going here and.

Speaker 15 (01:42:37):
We continue to put good at bats together, we'll we'll,
you know, we I really want us to score first.
That's something that we've been preaching our guys. You know,
we score first, kind of getting the moment on our side.
That's something that we've been talking about here lately. So
that's a that's an aerial emphasis for our offense right now.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
There is a term wearing the way of the world
on your shoulders, and you've got probably different guys doing
it in different reasons. You're and Al is the guy
that had the first month and a half it was crazy.
He's struggling the month of May. Then you got a
guy on camp Smith who knows you don't have a
lot of outfield depth because of the injury and you're
putting him out there in right field and he's doing
the best he can from a defensive standpoint for sure,

(01:43:13):
but the numbers just aren't haven't been good for him.
Give me what they're feeling. And again, I can go
to those guys directly, but sometimes they're going to give
you the generic answer of hey, I'm gonna work out
of this. I want you. From a baseball perspective that
knows those guys better than we do, what's Jordin kind
of thinking right now? What's Campsmith feeling right now?

Speaker 4 (01:43:32):
You know? So your done? Your done?

Speaker 15 (01:43:35):
Is the same guy every single day. He knows what
his capabilities are and he knows he'll get out of this, right.
It's more, it's more helping the younger players trying to
establish himself. Right, how can I get out of this without.

Speaker 4 (01:43:53):
Without showing you know, panic? Oh you know right.

Speaker 15 (01:43:57):
They try to be in front of their manager I
got this or I got you know, but at deep
like deep inside, I know, and when they're struggling mentally
or when they need a break, this guy's work their
tails off.

Speaker 4 (01:44:09):
All these young players they try and Bryce Matthews the
sense so cold these guys there.

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
The one to do.

Speaker 15 (01:44:15):
My job is just to make sure that you might
need a break today so we can get you back
on track.

Speaker 4 (01:44:22):
Just don't don't grab it back today, you know right,
don't go don't go out and do outfield er. Just
take a day to reset and get you back.

Speaker 15 (01:44:30):
And that's where I do most of my work and
my coaches is go take the polls, see how this
kid is doing.

Speaker 4 (01:44:37):
Because it's not the lack of work. It's just a
tough league. It's a tough league to perform, and especially
when you don't have a ton of experience in the
monor leagues like somebody I can't smith put in play
a ton in the mono leagues. So development still continues
at the mentor league level. And same thing you could
say from all of these young hitters that we are
here that year because of injuries probably you know, a
little bit here, a little bit too quick, but they're here.

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
We're going to help them, you know, get through this
last question for you, Lance mccolors. I know the nail
issue was not something that he wanted to have go
through last his last appearance. How is the nail feeling?
What has he told you will that hamper, the type
of pitch selection he might throw it in his next appearance.
You're coming up.

Speaker 4 (01:45:16):
No, No, the neil, the nail, it's it's fixed bullpen.
He a few days ago. He looked good.

Speaker 15 (01:45:23):
I don't think the nail should be an issue based
on what we've seen the last couple of days.

Speaker 4 (01:45:28):
And we need a good outing from him. We we actually,
you know, we need him to take us deep in
the game and and give us a boost. And and
you know, we we have a chance, you know, we
we take today, we could you know, take tomorrow's game
and uh, you know, go go out of this series
with uh you know, uh, you know to too and

(01:45:49):
and and and just go from there. But you know,
it's it's important for Lance to go out there and
and and give us a good outing and and hopefully
we could get the back over our bullpens being pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:45:59):
To give him the ball with the lead, and if
he could throw six innings of two hit ball, then
he the official manicuris should get a bonus from the organization.
I'll just put it that. I don't even know if
you've got a manicurist, but you made me need one.
I don't know. It sounds that we're bizarre. Yeah, but
thank you whatever it takes. Whatever need Yeah, you him,

(01:46:19):
you need something? Thank you, Hey, Skip, thanks for squezing
some time with us for this after we really appreciate it.
I felas you got it all right. Thank you. Joe
spotted with us here on the program. Maybe we all
should all get manny petties, just gonna make everybody feel better.
Give a little positive juju to our friend Lance mccullors.
But that's good, at least it's I mean, he sounds

(01:46:41):
like he's good. It sounds like there's not an issue.
I guess, so I'm worried about it. But we'll see.
I mean, because well, this is the problem. Even fully healthy,
he's struggling out on the mountain. So I don't want
to hear about him having fingernail issues. But now Joe
says it's fixed. He's going to be out there and
we'll go from there. Yeah, Lance, Unfortunately, two wins, three losses,
an e array of seven point five one.

Speaker 5 (01:47:01):
Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
I could learn a lot from Joe spot. I'm very positive. Well,
we're gonna hear some more positive things. Saying about twenty
five minutes fro Dana Brown. Okay, good. Bryce Miller is
gonna throw today. This will be what his first start
of the season, right, I think? I think so o
bleak injury. Oh, everybody's hurting their obliques. How's your oblique feeling?
Why don't you come hurt my obleaque and we can
all How don't you write in the obleaque? I be

(01:47:23):
able to breathe? We'll see. How about one of the
Jonathan Allen thrust kicks right of the oblique thrust kicks
like kung fu samurai kind of kick. Is that what
he's known for? I think he's Carthon. Are you known
as the martial artists? Don't you have a black belt
or something?

Speaker 3 (01:47:40):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
Wish I know? Hmm. I'm wanting to suffer injury. I
don't think it's gonna help because I want a happy
I'm running out of unhappy songs to play on the show.
I'm running out of well, not excuses. But hey, it's early,
because it is early, and frankly, it'll be early for

(01:48:02):
another twenty five or thirty games. But the problem is
we were scared about this week for a reason. Ross,
because you're gonna continue even if you weren't even the
team in first place in the ao WES was falling behind.
You were still gonna be in a situation. We're gonna
be losing games to somebody in the division right now,
the American League West standings. Just to keep things I
would say glass half full a little bit here, Mmm hmmm. Astros,

(01:48:27):
despite having the worst wreck in the American League or
only six out, tied for the worst record in baseball
wild Card five out, worst record than the Rockies, beat
up on you, saving grace the A's twenty one and
twenty with the one game lead over the Mariners, who
were in second place of twenty one and twenty two.

(01:48:48):
It doesn't matter though. I mean, you have to you
have to hop the Rangers and the Mariners, and you
have to win games. Well, you can hop them by
beating them directly. That's what I'm saying. That's why these
next let's see one, the next five are kind of important.
Right This whole week was import six games find the
A's five games behind the Mariners and three and a
half about four and a half behind them. Rangers got
three teams to pass twelve forty three. On Sports Talk

(01:49:16):
seven euty, we try to bring you a little up.
I'm sorry, I'm gonna cry. Don't cry, just keep it
in front of no let it out. Real man cry,
real men cry. Jonathan's right, Okay, Ill when I come back,
I'll weep. Yes, you'll feel a lot better, I promise.
I tried to weep yesterday at my daughter's volleyball banquet,

(01:49:36):
but then the Grand Slam home run happened and the
speeches went on.

Speaker 7 (01:49:40):
The wall.

Speaker 2 (01:49:41):
It's true the food was good, though, I'll say that
all right from banquet. You know who tries to come
in and bring us a big light of light? Who's that?
Mistery the eltman Spurs fans. He's a good mood, she said,
mood out of the Wolves destroyed. The wol was last night.
I know Jonathan had Wolves in six now looking so hot.

(01:50:04):
They got the series though. All right, you are, mister
underdog San Antonio four and a half over Minnesota right
now at Target Center on Friday. Ah, well, Spurs are
winning the series. Yeah, I agree. Now, it'd be in

(01:50:25):
their best interest to try to get this done tomorrow
night in Minneapolis, as compared to extending it to a
seventh game. The smart Niners at Friday Man Friday is
Friday's Game six. Okay, Game seven is always fun, though
I'm rooting for it. Game sevens are good, yep. And
give Minnesota credit. They're doing it without Dante DiVincenzo and
Anthony Edwards is running to his extras bike every five

(01:50:46):
seconds doing what he can. I you know what, it's funny,
Anthony dog. If we were a great NBA city, y'all
would love watching Anthony Edwards play. He's awesome and he's
kind of funny. He's hilarious, he's foul, he's like he's
like he's like a roast on a basketball court. He's

(01:51:06):
roasting you. He's good. He's really really good. And everybody's
trying to put Giannis with him in Minnesota. Everbody's trying
to put Jana's with every team in the NBA. Yeah hmm,
you know what Giannis does like the cold weather Milwaukee.
Maybe that's true. I still think ict is going to East.

(01:51:27):
I think he's thinking, I need a faster path in
championships and in Minnesota. Maybe going to the East eventually
in a couple of years, once the NBA expansion comes in. Yeah,
let's put the Rockets in the East. The Rockets are
in the east back in the day. Zero let's go
zero percent, zero percent? Why sick of the West. I

(01:51:47):
will buy you an all expense paid trip to Paris
if the Rockets go east. Okay, I want to go
to Wenby's birthplace. You don't have to jump three cities
that are easter of you. I don't Minnesota do in
Minnesota is maybe a scoshy east. I don't know. It's
due north. New Orleans is east of view. Memphis is
east of view. So it's not happening. Fine, you would

(01:52:11):
you like to see rampant changeover of how we uh
look at baseball? Baseball expands, I don't because you could
probably could division teams get you to thirty two? What
are they doing in Nashville and what?

Speaker 14 (01:52:27):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
Probably Portland, maybe Sacramento, maybe maybe Salt Lake City, Oakland.
No one of them is gonna go west. But they're
the the the Reformed. And this is even if they
don't expand would would feature maybe the Astros playing the Rangers,

(01:52:48):
the Rockies, the Royals, and the Cardinals in a central
Esque type division. I'm not that worried about it. Figure
it out. It's kind of summer Semanthay, there's no. I mean,
the Mariners have kind of been a rival the Rangers
a little bit, but it's not like the Astros don't
have like these like you can't take them, take us

(01:53:09):
away from them rivals. No, the Astros and Rangers that
they will never be separated again. What would be my
would be the only thing I would think of, said,
any any sort of re reorganization of divisions would involve
the Astros and Rangers being in the same division. In general,
beating up on the A's in Angels and hit throughout.
History of being in the American League has been nice.
But okay, well, I'm waiting for that twenty twenty nine

(01:53:31):
schedule to come out. I guess Astros versus Las Vegas
A's is it twenty twenty nine or twenty twenty eight.
You got the lock up particilarly come into play too,
So you don't know what the hell's going to happen. Yeah,
I don't know. Expansion is interesting to me. We haven't
had it a while, right, we've had no expansion since
with the Order. It's the Texans, right two thousand and two.

(01:53:54):
I forget any major sport in any major sport for
that matter. Last expansion in the NBA was what the Grizzlies.
I think you're forgetting somebody Wasn't the Grizzlies and somebody else?
Did they come raptors around that same time nineties? Yeah,

(01:54:15):
I guess you're right. That's the thing is that we're
talking about all these ways for these leagues that make
this money. They see the expansion fees that are being charged.
That's why billions. It's may not be a foreground conclusion
the NBA expands because you're asking not only for these
these ownership groups to come up with money to create
their own facilities and build their own teams, but you're
also asking for billion a billion plus dollars and expansion fees, money,

(01:54:42):
money and more money. But if we were in their spot,
but we we we wouldn't be any different, will I
think I would be a little bit different?

Speaker 7 (01:54:49):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:54:50):
We way, We're all so. The richest people I know
in this world are the continue to ask for more
and more greed. I know, I've never heard. I've never
met anybody like maybe Warren Buffett worth twenty billion dollars.
I've had enough.

Speaker 5 (01:55:03):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:55:04):
That's how it goes I'm more giving than others. I
think when you hit that certain level, now you can
be giving. You can give more to charity of its inherent.
When you're a billionaire, you're a lot of times to
rise that how you have an extreme ambition that it's
a fauce that you can't turn off. Like most billionaires
want to get to the ten billion dollar club. Like
most politicians very narcissistic. You can't ask them to get

(01:55:26):
into office and then stop being narcissistic. Like you know,
the city council is good enough for me. What if
I want to make you mayor or governor? Those most
fit for office do not seek it. I think most
people this is this is this is sociology. This is
just a random take on my part. You can disagree
if you are at a certain threshold in your life. Well,
I'll use myself as an example. Okay, of course, what

(01:55:50):
I love more money. Who wouldn't want more money? But
I'm very comfortable where I'm at. I don't think billionaires
think that way. I think billionaires, No, it's a competition,
I think differently. Yeah, it's not money, it's a way
to keep score. Yeah, the NBA owners could have said

(01:56:12):
let's keep the games on TNT, Let's keep the games
on ESPN, ABC. Let's make it nice and formatic for
everybody to know where the games are on a day
to day basis. And maybe we include NBC for a
handful of games, but let's put them on every Sunday night.
Let's make it so it's easy for our consumers to
consume our product. The NBA is like, we can get

(01:56:35):
you more money, but we're gonna put games on in
strange times and on strange streaming services, and we're gonna
have one game on one network, one and the other.
And the NBA owners are like, we need as much
television money as possible because guess what our buddies down
the street at the NFL they do it. They put
games on Netflix and Amazon, on YouTube and CBS and

(01:56:55):
ABC and people seem to find their games. Ratings have
been up, apparently, they said more more unique users as well,
especially with the Prime video stuff. They're getting people because
a lot of people. Amazon Prime has like one hundred
and eighty million subscribers or something like that in America.
I'm just one person. When I put a game on Amazon,

(01:57:16):
you know what I don't do. I don't flip because
of the pain. They asked for me to flip. I understand.
So it's just easier to keep it on. So maybe
they left. In some respects, it's it's actually easier for
them to get me on because I'm gonna have a
better chance. We're going to get your second TV. When's
your birthday? June fifth? Okay, what size TV you want?
It's got to be I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:57:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:57:37):
It's just like a fifty, but I know every TV
is four K. But I want smart TV. I want
a smart TV. I want all the apps below there.
We'll get you like a high sense U six. You
hear that Jonathan's gonna give me a TV for my birthday?

Speaker 6 (01:57:48):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:57:48):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (01:57:49):
You don't believe him? Do you say that?

Speaker 4 (01:57:52):
That was like that?

Speaker 2 (01:57:53):
That laugh was not of uh belief? I see right now.
I'm gonna look for a deal, all right, Carl. We'll
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(01:58:40):
All Right, we got some folks that are patiently waiting.
Let's go to them. As the final hour of the
Matt Thomas Shokes comes up, Dana Brown here in a
few minutes. Bottom of the hour, Brian Boga, Sevic Ross.
What is today's edition of Believe It or Not's?

Speaker 3 (01:58:52):
So you em?

Speaker 2 (01:58:54):
I like it? Let's talk to uh Carl on seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (01:58:58):
Hello Carl, Hey, how you doing today? Hey? Greed is
greed is good?

Speaker 8 (01:59:06):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:59:06):
First of all, I want to thank seven ninety. I'm
going I just figured out the ticket master and I'm
gonna go see Staying tonight from free tickets that I
won a couple of months ago.

Speaker 2 (01:59:17):
Congratulations to hear that, But I like, I'm greedy he's been.

Speaker 5 (01:59:21):
So I'm looking for more tickets for another event. I
think I also won something from a C d C.
But I'm only called about the astros. Uh, painful to watch.
Just this nibbling with Emi and Wildness and McCullers and
all that stuff is frustrating to watch. But what do

(01:59:42):
you guys think they're going to do when Penya comes back?
And how they're going to use is it stoemaker or shoemaker? Shoemaker?
And that guy's makes good contact with the ball, place
place pretty good shortstop and uh is he going to
become our super childy guy?

Speaker 2 (02:00:02):
He can play multiple positions, especially in the left side
of the endfield. The reality is there's a third space
spot available. I mean, I think it's a party is
going to play primarily there. You move Jeremy short and
then she may can be your utility guy. Yeah. I
don't think there's enough bat in that bat to play
six days a week. But if he wants to prove
me wrong, I'm all for it.

Speaker 5 (02:00:24):
Well, we need we need some kind of surprise every year.
You know, there's got to be some guy that comes
out of nowhere to contribute to a Pennant winning team.

Speaker 7 (02:00:34):
So I'm not saying.

Speaker 6 (02:00:38):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:39):
I love your optimism there from the worst record in
baseball to a Pennant winner, I'm all for that. Thanks.
To the phone call.

Speaker 4 (02:00:44):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (02:00:47):
Well, I would caution Braiden Shoemakes numbers are current numbers
are not fantastic. Twenty eight year old Braiden Shoemake is
going to all of a sudden just be a revelation.

Speaker 7 (02:01:00):
Be nice.

Speaker 2 (02:01:01):
You gotta get Jeremy paying back first. We're hoping about
that was that Cole and whoever? Who was what was
his name, Trey Cabbage. We can go down the list, guys.
We were hoping for some kind of out of nowhere. Yeah, yeah,
Brandon Shoemakes numbers lifeline kind of ops of a thousand
for his career. Good no, no, this year I was

(02:01:23):
gonna say, well for his career five twenty five, is
it that bad? Yes, he's twenty five years old, he's
twenty eight twenty excuse me twenty and he was drafted
at the age of twenty. It made his major league
debut at twenty five excuse me, sees late bloomer, extremely
late bloomer. Ops. You said is a thousand? Yeah, ops

(02:01:48):
plus is one to eighty five. That's insane against small
sample size that I'm very small, will come down a
little bit, I would assume, Uh, huh yeah, I mean
three different teams in three seasons. Career batting average you
said was one uh oh, sorry, one eighty eight. Very

(02:02:11):
small sample size though his ops plus is an American
leaguer with both the White Sox and Astros. He's fifty two.
He's only had one hundred career plate appearances, so there's
not a lot of wear and tear on the body. Yeah,
well a lot of it's been Triple A. But fer
you know they had him Adam no contender if you work.

Speaker 16 (02:02:28):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:02:29):
Last year in Triple A with the Yankees, in three
hundred and fifteen plate appearances, he ops six to eighty
and scram and triple A. Yeah, yikes. Here's Stana Brown
a good visit of his. Vince and James Hankta will
get to you guys coming up, but I want you
guys to hear from from the general manager. Makes it

(02:02:50):
appearance every Wednesday and nine thirty on Sports Talk seven ety.
Needless to say, uh, the situation was not a great
debut for him, making its return off of the injured
list or whatever they're calling it after having a tired arm.
But here's a good chunk of Dana from today talking
about trying to keep things obviously glass half full. Yeah.

(02:03:10):
So look, we still have.

Speaker 11 (02:03:12):
A really good offense and we're waiting on our pitching,
you know, in terms of injuries, and so we can
catch the baseball. We have the pedigree.

Speaker 2 (02:03:22):
This is a ruler team.

Speaker 11 (02:03:24):
I want people to stay with us, stay positive.

Speaker 2 (02:03:27):
We're speaking life into this season.

Speaker 11 (02:03:29):
We're going through a rough patch right now, without a doubt,
but this team is still really good. We have some
good things going on. We're going to get brown back
haters throwing.

Speaker 6 (02:03:40):
The ball very well, Pinyas out on a rehab.

Speaker 11 (02:03:44):
I would just say stay focused, stay positive because we're
still locked in.

Speaker 2 (02:03:49):
Dana, you mentioned the offense for your team in the
last few games that hasn't looked the way that it
had early on in the season. What are you seeing
are you are you seeing that approaches are being changed
or do you think that they're being pitched differently?

Speaker 11 (02:04:01):
Yeah, I mean I think it's a combination of both.
Guys should pitching this differently. I think we have to
get back to what we were doing early in terms
of taking our walks. I think sometimes guys try to
do too much and so we just have to get
locked back into the strike zone. You know, get our pitch,
take the walk if it's there, and you know, continue,

(02:04:23):
you know, to get after it.

Speaker 2 (02:04:25):
Dana.

Speaker 10 (02:04:25):
Last fifteen games, Cam Smith is a buck fifty four
batting average, a two thirty one slug twenty two strikeouts.
It feels like that he's over correcting too much. What
is the reason for the decline in your opinion on
what you're seeing, And just to be completely transparent, do
you believe that maybe a send down when you have
a more fully healthy outfield, of a return to Joey

(02:04:46):
Libraffito and Jake Myers maybe beneficial just to get Cam
Smith right.

Speaker 11 (02:04:51):
Look, we'll cross that bridge when we get there. I
think cam Smith is going to be fine. I think
he's still learning at the major league level. He's twenty
three years so we all know what he's capable of doing.
I think he's, uh, you know, just in his load.
I think he needs to quiet the load down a
little bit. I think he's getting a little bit out
of sinc. I'm sure our guys are working it, working

(02:05:14):
it with him and working it through, working it through,
and so, uh, I think cam Smith is going to
be fine. But you know, look at the end of
the day. Uh, you know, we'll cross that bridge when
we when we get there. But I really believe cam
Smith is going to turn it around. Uh, you know,
loaded with talent, and you know we just got to
give him a little.

Speaker 2 (02:05:33):
Bit more runway Dana.

Speaker 10 (02:05:34):
The last two games and at the minor league level,
totsy Am I struggled with command. You did see the
strikes go on up last night, but it also led
to a fourth ending that got off the rails with
a O two count, moving to to hit by pitch,
to hit by pitches.

Speaker 2 (02:05:50):
A grand slam.

Speaker 10 (02:05:51):
While the strikes are there, what more do we need
to see to get toutsy Am I back into a
rhythm of where it's not just consistency, it's also not
working in a position where it feels like that you
already have your backs against the.

Speaker 2 (02:06:02):
Wall and you're not even through five innings of work. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:06:05):
Look, he was so good in spring training. He pitched
very well against the A's this year. Stuck Out nine
Age is a pretty good hitting team. I would say,
we have to let this guy work out the kinks.
You know, his fastball was up to ninety seven. He
was throwing more strikes he made some bad pitches, you know.

(02:06:25):
Last night, you know, got a change up of a
sorry slider up. It didn't break that much, and it
got hit out of the ballpark, you know, for a
Grand Slam. And so it's all about making the pitch
when you need to make a pitch. And you know,
he's still here learning in the US first time. No

(02:06:46):
minor leagues got to give the guy a little bit
of runway. The guys very talented. Make no mistake, I
am still very confident that Emi will have a really
good season this year. I'm not worried one bit. I
know that in the major leagues. Look, we were talking
about the best in the world. The major Major League

(02:07:07):
Baseball is the best baseball.

Speaker 2 (02:07:09):
In the world.

Speaker 11 (02:07:09):
And so you know guys are going to go through
these periods. There's a learning curve, and I really think
he's going to turn the corner.

Speaker 4 (02:07:17):
I'm not worried about it. Uh.

Speaker 11 (02:07:19):
It's like I said, it's a long season where you know,
we played forty three games, We got one hundred and
nineteen left. We have to give these guys an opportunity
to make some adjustments. And I really feel that Emi
will make those adjustments.

Speaker 4 (02:07:35):
The talent.

Speaker 11 (02:07:36):
It's just it's too great, right, And so I would say,
stay positive, good things are going to come.

Speaker 2 (02:07:43):
And I'm not worried one pit and when it comes
to him on the mound. I mean, I know that
you guys last night talked about in the pregame trying
to simplify things a little bit, and that's why we
saw the fastball and the slider. I mean, is it
a little bit too with them, Dana of just kind
of slow things down as much as possible and trying
to make all these adjustments. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:08:01):
Look, the whole thing is, like I try to explain this,
you know, to people all the time. You remember, you
know Hunter Brown, you know in twenty twenty four when
he was going through that rough patch, and you know,
we made a few adjustments and all of a sudden,
Hunter Brown just took off and and and and he
and he and he's really, you know, been very good

(02:08:22):
for us. I think we have to give these players
opportunities to make adjustments at the major league level, because
you're talking about the best baseball in the world, and
they will make adjustments. The good ones adjust. He's a
good one, he will adjust.

Speaker 2 (02:08:39):
I'm not worried one. Bet.

Speaker 11 (02:08:40):
I want I want people to think back to, you know,
Hunter Brown is very good, and I want people to
think back to when Hunter Brown was going through his
little struggle and then all of a sudden the light
came on and he took off. And so we we
have to give these guys some space, some opportunities. It's
it's the reason why baseball has had marathon. It's not

(02:09:01):
a sprint. You know, you're gonna have these ups and downs,
the edge and clothes, and I really want people to
understand this guy will be good for us this year.
You don't have this type of talent and don't succeed, right,
So with this type of talent, you will see how
good things happen.

Speaker 2 (02:09:19):
All right, That again is Danny Brown. I'll have more
of that Danner Brown conversation during the Astros on deck
at six o'clock tonight here on Sports Talk seven ninety
we'll talk to those of you online coming back and
coming up at the bottom of the hour, perspective from
Brian Bogas Sivic plus Ross has Believe It or Not
today at seven one, three, two, five, seven ninety six.

(02:09:42):
All right, Matt and Ross with you got good news
the Guardians lead the Angels three. Now thing in the
top of the fifth, so the Astros will not have
to potentially wear the worst record in baseball by themselves.
Angels are terrible. Angels may be the greatest example of
money spent that never ever pays off. Before this guy
has had a moon rocket. Oh my god, how was Itto?

(02:10:05):
Well he crushed that one two home runs just as
I said that, it's a three to two game. Now,
Guardian's still leading the Angels. Let's go guard Zach and
netto go Guards just so the Astros aren't in the
last place by the Oh, he's in a Johnson and
you can't see me. That's terrible, all right. Brian Bogusva
coming up at the bottom of the hour here on

(02:10:26):
seven ninety. Let's talk to a gym on seven James,
Good afternoon, Hello James. Yep, this might be one of
his best calls ever. Last chance James for romance forever.
If you yeah, he's never allowed to call the show again. Well,

(02:10:50):
he's not gonna know that. If he can't hear you,
he's not there. We haven't called, we haven't phone issues.
I don't know. We've been good all day. We've been
good all day so far. It's shows are it's eighteenth problem.
There are issues. It's fine. I'm not the let me
tell you if we have phone issues tonight and been
the tenth innings show. It's a short tenth inning show

(02:11:10):
for me. I'm not gonna just monologue a loss. You
should go, uh yeah, go for a record record monologue
like a like a Senate filibuster play interviews run through
the entire box used to play. Yeah, all right, I
guess I could do that. So how are we feeling

(02:11:31):
about Lance mccullors tonight? With the nail that has been
put back on the hand. It's fixed. I mean, do
you want my honest opinion? You're got me to lie. Hmmm.
I like when you lie, but listen in this case,
let's be honest. I don't know how the hell the
Mariners are only a minus one thirty six. I guess
it's because Bryce Miller is making his first start of

(02:11:51):
the season pitch count bully or for yeah, I thought
he was. So if you were to go to the
state line, yes, you would put money on the Mariners. Yes, okay,
it's crazy minus my life savings or anything. I'm not

(02:12:12):
saying lock of a week right on a recorded line.
It's funny minus won thirty six. So put that in perspective,
you have to spend one hundred and thirty six dollars
to win one hundred. Yes, I mean I show's got
to win at some point. That's a stay away from
me as his baseball most times, okay, keta great baseball

(02:12:34):
betting is betting over under on the first five of
the game you don't get can you find out that
is from real quick? And I'll give you. I'll give
you a match lock of Toba, even though we may
lock of the week and nine and a half. I
don't know what the first five is, but the whole
game is nine and a half, twelve runs scored. Yesterday
my colors thrown nine and a half first five, says

(02:13:00):
day Away. I would lean towards taking the over, okay,
but I need to know the exact number. I can't lean.
I can't lean on something until I know what the
number is. Okay, we'll see if a gambler gym knows
this on seven? All right, James, second time the charm.
There's better be a great phone call.

Speaker 16 (02:13:16):
Yeah, it was my car play. My car play was
screwing everything up.

Speaker 11 (02:13:18):
But anyhow, have you ever heard of Leo de Roscha?

Speaker 2 (02:13:21):
Have you ever heard that manager Leo Durocher. Yes, it
would have been way back in the day.

Speaker 16 (02:13:25):
You remember the book he wrote about managing? No, you
don't remember the title of that book. Nice Guy's finished
last You don't remember that book?

Speaker 2 (02:13:36):
No, I said, I know, I said no three times.

Speaker 16 (02:13:38):
I gave you the title. I gave you the title.
I thought maybe you might remember after I gave you
the title. But anyhow, that kind of reminds.

Speaker 4 (02:13:45):
Me of the Spoder.

Speaker 16 (02:13:47):
But nevertheless, Brown's delusional. He's completely deligional. You're not gonna
just tweak that guy and he's gonna He's gonna be fine.
I mean Brown, Dana Brown. We just need to tweak
him a little bit.

Speaker 4 (02:13:59):
That is not gonna help.

Speaker 2 (02:14:00):
Well, okay, so let's let's play. Let's play a new
game called what would what would General Manager James say?

Speaker 16 (02:14:08):
General Manager James would start playing Blue Oyster Cold?

Speaker 6 (02:14:10):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (02:14:12):
Start, that's not bright. I mean, if you're if you
just put yourself in his shoes for a little bit
and tell me what you would say, I.

Speaker 16 (02:14:19):
Would say, it's time for us. Just we made a mistake.
I'm sorry, We're going to try to trade you. That's
what I'm tell him.

Speaker 2 (02:14:24):
You said that on a public radio show.

Speaker 16 (02:14:27):
No, I wouldn't say it on a public radio show,
but that's what I.

Speaker 11 (02:14:29):
Would be trying.

Speaker 2 (02:14:30):
I'm not asking you, I'm asking you what you would
say if you were on with Dan and Cole every
Wednesday at nine point thirty, when asked about a player's performance,
what would you say?

Speaker 16 (02:14:40):
Okay, I would say, listen, we can't afford anymore losses,
so we're gonna do everything we do to get this
guy right. If we can't get him right, we're gonna
have to trade.

Speaker 2 (02:14:47):
Well, that's exactly what he's thinking. That's exactly what he's thinking.
You know you you're not You're not You're not a fool.
You understand that what what you want to say and
what you're going to say are going to be two
different things.

Speaker 14 (02:14:59):
You know that.

Speaker 16 (02:15:00):
Okay, one more thing. I wanted to get on a
ain't nobody got time for that. But I didn't get
on that.

Speaker 11 (02:15:04):
Sure, I went.

Speaker 16 (02:15:06):
I went to the lot CE at Dyking Park and
they charged me thirty dollars for parking. And I said,
thirty dollars you used to be twenty on one, that's thirty.
Now neither team is winning. Why are you raising the
price of parking? No one's got time for that. That's
all I got to say.

Speaker 2 (02:15:22):
All right, thank you, thank you, James god Balad. I mean,
Dana does go Look, Dana's not going to go in
there and say we're all terrible and it's horrible. But
I mean he got he does go over the top
saying I'm not worried one bit a little the marathon
thing and then the story. I mean, I just don't
know if there is a class that you would take

(02:15:44):
when everybody's going to take every one of your comments
and look at them and stare at them and try
to analyze them like we do. Because so that's tell
us what broadcast media does. If he had have said
we're running short on patients, does that then you go
run down of the player. Hey, your general manager today
in seven ninety he said he's a running out of

(02:16:05):
paties with you. I mean, you're starting up one storm
to create another one. Basically, I made some bad moves
and at least might be short. And Jim's not responding
to my text right now. He's not gonna say that, No,
all right, Brian Bogasceevic's gonna talk to us about okay,
watching love it. We'll let you hear from him next
believe it or not. Today is Darryl Moury ooh, Darryl

(02:16:26):
Morian out as general manager of the Houston of the
Philadelphia seventy six ers. Our visit with Brian bogus Sevic.
After Ross tells you about centergenic.

Speaker 6 (02:16:37):
We help it.

Speaker 2 (02:16:38):
You love to hear from Brian Bogacevic. He's with us
every Wednesday at eleven o'clock. Brian McTaggert will be with
us tomorrow at about twelve ten. We're gonna push him
into the on deck show. We have an Astros day
game tomorrow, But we do want you to hear from
bogus Eevic right now and his thoughts about how basically
the Astros told him to focus on two pitches, get

(02:16:59):
those over for strikes, get on the field, get off
the field as fast as possible those two pitches. Unfortunately,
the scout of report figured the Mariners figured out, and
they were able to take advantage of it to the
tune of eight runs.

Speaker 7 (02:17:11):
Yeah, it became pretty predictable, pretty quickly, and you know,
it kind of surprised me a little bit after the
game when Emi was talking and he said, you know,
he wants to get back to the way he pitched
in Japan, which is mainly forcing fastball and the slider.
So I went back and looked at some of the
scouting reports this morning, stuff that people had written up

(02:17:32):
seeing him in Japan, and that is very much true
when it comes to facing righty's, but he threw a
lot of change ups, split fingers to left handers and
his time in Japan and that was a very left
handed dominant lineup. So I don't know that it's necessarily
just this is the way I pitch, and I'm going
to try to get back to my strength. It seems
like there's more going on there, certainly with the with

(02:17:54):
the change up and just not being comfortable with it,
either physically, you know, being able to throw it where
he wants it, or mentally just not having the confidence
in it. But yeah, it was a pretty glaring absence
and something that you really need to get through a
left handed heavy lineup.

Speaker 2 (02:18:14):
Another thing that bothered me last night and obviously didn't
make that big of a difference, is there were two
free passes, essentially extra bases stolen. Wise, Emi just did
not pay much attention over there. The long stride doesn't
help the case. Is that just him focusing so much
on trying to throw strikes that he just sometimes forgets
about who's over at first base.

Speaker 4 (02:18:35):
Yeah, that's what it looked like.

Speaker 7 (02:18:37):
It looked like his you know, entire focus was on
home plate and everything else around him kind of you know, disappearing,
and it kind of speaks to a broader just sense
of what it looks like, right, you know, is the
fight that you're going through internal or external, And it
looks like he's very much internal everything. It's trying to

(02:19:01):
get out of his own way. It's trying to get
my mechanic right, it's trying to execute my pitch. It's
trying to, you know, make sure that I'm throwing to
where I want to when at the end of the day,
once you get out, like that's fine in the bullpen
and that's fine, and your throwing work, and that's fine
when you're you know, working on stuff, when you're on
the mound and it's the game like it's an external competition,
it's you versus the hitter. It's you and the game

(02:19:22):
that's going on around you.

Speaker 2 (02:19:24):
You know, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 7 (02:19:26):
If you have a good feel for this pitch or
if you feel good or like, just just compete, you know,
compete against the guy in the batter's box. Compete against
the other team, not against yourself. And it feels like
he's very much internalized and everything that he's dealing with
is kind of in within him, and it's not just
I'm out here competing. I don't even know if I
have my good stuff or not, but I got to

(02:19:47):
try to figure out a way to get guys out
and give its a chance to win. It seems like
it's just solely inward focused.

Speaker 2 (02:19:54):
The funk the answers are in this year is not
completely about Tatsui Emi. It's mostly and most recently been
about the Astros offense. If you were in the clubhouse,
which you occasionally are, and Cam Smith came over to
you and said, hey, Brian, what are you seeing from me?
We were kind of hoping. We were talking last hour
about things that were optimistic about what could be vastly

(02:20:17):
improved from the second half of last year to the
first half of this year, and unfortunately Cam is back
in that run again. What would you tell him if
you if you were to pull him aside.

Speaker 7 (02:20:25):
Well, I think for him, the thing that's been most
important for him from day one when he broke with
the club last year is being on time, and really
being on time, not just trying to get started earlier,
but actually getting to your hitting position. And there are
times when he does, and there are times when he doesn't.
Even when he is trying to be early and trying

(02:20:48):
to be ahead of the fastball, he just doesn't get
there with his hands and with his loads sometimes and
when you see I forget which that bad it was.
But he had a count yesterday where it was like
a two to zero counter, very much a hitters count,
fastball count, fastball pitcher, and it was just late, you know,
foul ball over the first base, dugout, jammed, and it's

(02:21:08):
just like you're just not getting on time, and just
go back to all your cues, go back to watching
the video and see if if you're actually even if
you feel like you're getting there, go back and check
and see if you're actually getting there, because because it's
not always right, and if you're not on time, if
you're not on time to the fastball. You can't make
adjustments off of that, and everything gets thrown into goes.

Speaker 2 (02:21:30):
Haywire sticking with the hitting, but somebody on a different
spectrum of their career. Jose L twove what you're seeing
from him as far as the I mean, the hot start.
Obviously wasn't going to hit like that all season long,
but has has been in a deep funk.

Speaker 7 (02:21:44):
Yeah, it's been it's been a while, but I think
we're seeing signs of it. You know, he got he's
on basis a couple of times. Yesterday he had three
hits first day against Seattle. And it's not just oh,
he's getting hits. He's coming out of it. It's what
the hits look like and where they're coming. You know,
their balls barreled back up the middle, their balls, you
know off the plate away that he's staying on and
shooting the other way, because that's what we saw a

(02:22:05):
lot of the first whatever it was, fifteen games of
the season when he was really focused on middle the
other way. Not I'm trying to yank the ball. I'm
trying to hit the ball out of the ballpark. It's
just I'm trying to throw the barrel at it and
get hit. And I think some of that, maybe a
lot of that has to do with being back into
the leads off spotting in front of Jordan. You're no

(02:22:27):
longer you know, in the four hole or five hole
run producer hit for power drive runners, and it's just hey,
get on base. If you have to take a walk,
that does the job. If you just shoot a ball
through the four hole to the right side, that does
the job. Also, I feel like with where he needs
to be for that consistency matches up well with top
of the order table setter in front of Jordan. And

(02:22:50):
you know, it's only two games, but we've seen a
little bit of that in the Seattle series. Maybe that
kind of gets him going again.

Speaker 2 (02:22:56):
Brian Bokocevic was here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Lance
mccullor's junior is on the hill as far as we
know tonight. What what is going on with the Apparently
did the nail fell off his pointer finger? And I thought,
don't pitchers use their their fingernails to kind of grip
and spin the ball?

Speaker 4 (02:23:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:23:15):
If you, I mean, if you think about his curveball,
he kind of spikes it to throw that curveball, so
you're digging in. But I don't know. I mean, I
know that he was going through regular throwing programs and
was out there on the field and working out, and
he's throwing today, so it must be good enough. I
wonder if you know when it initially tore off in
his last start, you know, raw skin, it kind of

(02:23:36):
doesn't feel good and you don't have a good feel
for it. Maybe maybe it hardened up and stiffened up
a little bit over over the course of the last
five days, and now is good enough because it's not
it's not necessarily the nail that you're digging in with.
It's just the pressure on the tip of your finger.
So as long as you can press with like that
without pain and it feels right, you should be okay.

(02:23:56):
But he needs it because that curveball is his putaway weapon.
You know, he's going to go out there and if
he gets ahead and account, it's gonna be curveballs. And
they need to be good because this is a Mariner's
lineup that they are very much mistake hitters. If you
leave those breaking balls up, they'll hammer them.

Speaker 2 (02:24:12):
Brian, I was listening to our morning show today here
on seven ninety and they were talking about you know,
when you get into a rut, do you go to
a veteran leader. Do you go to a guy that say, hey,
media comes in ask questions. You got to kind of
wear it for the team. When teams are down, and
they brought up Jose al tuo Bag almost exclusively. You

(02:24:34):
and I have known Jose for a very long period
of time. He is a man, a leader of actions,
and ultimately, if he's got something to say, he's going
to do it with the doors closed and no television
cameras and no reporters anywhere near him. Let me ask you,
from another tough loss in a building, another seven or
eight run deficit, do players sometimes appreciate the fact that

(02:24:57):
the microphones will go to that leader and they have
to bear the brunt of those questions. Or is it
a little bit of over importance that that that a
leader has to take those kind of comments when teams
are suffering the way they are right now.

Speaker 7 (02:25:15):
No, I think it's I think it's appreciated. I think
it's respected, and I think that's just kind of how
teams are built. You know, there there there are pecking
orders and hierarchies in clubhouses, and you know it comes
with the good and the bad. But you know, the
biggest thing is you just want you want guys to

(02:25:36):
be genuine. You want your leaders to be genuine in
you know they will they will step up and be
the leader of the team when it's good, and they
will step up and be the leader of the team
when it's not going well. And and how they lead
is the same, good or bad. And you know, you
get guys who do it in different ways. But but
the biggest thing is are they going to show up

(02:25:56):
tomorrow and do the same things that they did, you know,
maybe when it was going well at the beginning of
the season or something. And that's that's how you have
the calming influence on the younger players in the clubhouse.
Is if they see you not panicking, if they see
you not drastically changing your routine and trying to do

(02:26:16):
things differently, it doesn't really matter what, you know, a
veteran says in front of the cameras after the game,
it's just kind of what they have to do. It's
can you show up and you show me how we're
supposed to act. And those guys are so good at
just keeping calm and continuing to go about to go
about it the way they should, while also getting across

(02:26:36):
the point that hey, there is a sense of urgency
that we need to turn it around here quickly.

Speaker 2 (02:26:41):
Last question, Brian and those veterans, Jordan, we know what
the resume is. We know what Jeremy Painey is when
he's healthy. We know what Joseo Tuba has been. There
are a lot of guys right now because of injuries,
getting an opportunity that otherwise would not get it. And
I don't want to point out one player, but let's

(02:27:02):
just find a player that you have in your roster
X y Z, player that has a reputation of crushing
the ball at triple A, but there's a deficiency the
major league level that allows him not to stay at
the major league level, and he's doing the same sort
of thing. I mean, That's why I think pessimism probably
is a little high, because you're asking guys that have
never done it before to step up and be something

(02:27:23):
they have not been before. So what's the balance in
rooting for a guy to finally pull through, but ultimately
knowing that there's deficiencies in their game, whether it's not
ability to throw strikes as a pitcher, or ability to
hit a curve ball or not strike out a lot,
or not be a big RBI producer.

Speaker 7 (02:27:42):
Yeah, I mean, you have you have guys who are
organizational depths, and they're there in that role for a
reason and and this it's it's okay. And they're useful
to to fill roles for short periods of time because
you can use them in situations where you can play
to their strengths and hide some of those weaknesses, and

(02:28:05):
you can try to pair them with other guys on
the team for maybe platoon roles or splitting time and
try to massage it a little bit. Where you get
in trouble is when you have to rely on guys
for extended periods of time, or three or four of
them at the same time, and you just you can't

(02:28:26):
hide the deficiencies anymore, and that's a very difficult thing
to do. That's when you kind of feel like your
hands are tied as a manager and you have to
put guys out there and just kind of hope that
they play over their heads for a while. And we
kind of saw that for a little bit early on
with the pitching, when just so many guys were hurting
so many guys before Ragetti came and Lambert came and
really settled it down a little bit. It's like, you know,

(02:28:48):
if you're depending on somebody for one start here or there,
that's fine, you can figure that out. But if it's
we got to run somebody out there every five days
for three months, eventually it's just going to get exposed.
There's nothing you can do. So that's the biggest thing.
With the amount of injuries that they can cover up.
You can cover up for any.

Speaker 2 (02:29:11):
I guess Brian didn't want to tell us what is
it covering up for. I think you're saying covering up
for a short period of time with the long term
as you can't take players that are meant for playing
Triple A baseball to play two to three months. All right,
that's again great stuff from Brian Bogas Sievic. Let's play
Believe it or not. Next, it's all things about Darryl Moury,
the former general manager of the Rockets, the former general
manager of the Philadelphia seventy six ers. All right, tomorrow, Snacks,

(02:29:37):
I show we will have Ross and myself Jonathan here
ten to twelve. I just don't get it returns for
an eleven thirty visit. Uh, And then we've got Astros
on deck and Russell have that for you tomorrow and
Brian mctecka will join you during Astros on deck for
the one ten first pitch, as the Astros will be

(02:29:59):
going for a series split. Okay, I hope you're right.
I hope I'm right too. I hope you are right.
The Astros are zero and six against the Mariners this year?
Is that bad? It's not wonderful? Okay, five minutes left

(02:30:21):
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even though the Astros are struggling, loyally the Astros talk

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in nineteen seasons as a general manager, Darryl Moury has never,
I mean never won the NBA's Executive of the Year Award.
Believe it or not, Believe it? No one in twenty eighteen,
poor people want to go see Triumphtly can't give these
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Speaker 4 (02:33:15):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (02:33:15):
Sir, and the whole show was amazing.

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Matt Darryl Mory is an avid chess player and his
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Believe it or Not? There you go stayment number two
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Project Believe It or Not. He wrote to Sexy ngratulations

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Dave on seven, Are you ready to play Believe it
or not?

Speaker 4 (02:33:46):
Believe It?

Speaker 2 (02:33:47):
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Up next, Adam Clinton, Adam Wexer for four more hours
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