May 5, 2026 • 12 mins
Joe Espada on the Astros Pitching Struggles and Ongoing Challenges
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Every Tuesday. Here on the Matt Thomas Show at Ross,
we spend ten callity minutes with a manager of the
Houston Astros dropped the opener of the Dodgers last night,
game number two. Tonight, we'll have it for y'all. Have
the on Deck show from the ballpark at six o'clock,
first pitch at seven and ten. Joe a Spot is
with us on the show. Skip a good afternoon. Thank
you for the time. More of a macro view of
(00:22):
this running a bullpen game? Is it much more harrowing
than I think it is. I mean, and you'd love
it to be a perfect formula, but unfortunately it feels
like more times than not it's not.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, it's it's never a good you know, it's got
to go as planned, right, and and unfortunately that wasn't
the case yesterday.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
You know, but we you know, we are in a
position where.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
We try to piece it together until we get you know,
the rest of our guys, and sometimes you know, it
goes it goes well.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
You know, I think in Boston the day before on
Sunday it was you know, he played out are we
And then yesterday was one of those days that it
just seemed play out the way we want.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
It, and unfortunately, when you can't get Oaka out of
the first inning, it pushes everybody up a little bit.
I know, Ryan Weiss was a guy that really wanted
to come into camp and be a starter. The numbers
is han't bared out. What are you noticing about him?
And I know there has been some talk about maybe
a move down to sugar Land, And I don't know
if you've made that official gist yet, but just a
thought or two about Ryan, because I know when I
(01:34):
talked to him during Astrofest, he came in not only
looking forward to being a major leaguer for the first time,
but maybe cracking your starting rotation.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, you know, and and if you look at if
you look at it, he's outing yesterday, right, you know
how how he was ahead often and then once he
got to that O two one two count, just not
being able to execute and finish your hit or executing
a pitch more of a chase pitch, just kind of
leaving pitches like out over the plate, like in the
(02:04):
middle of the plate where good hitters are going to handle.
And that has been one of the issues for Ryan
right now that you know he is trying to work through.
When you have plus stuff the way he does. Hitters
should not be squaring squaring your pitches up the way
(02:25):
they they've been up late, right, they he should be
able to wipe them away with in ninety eight mileth
pour frastball. He's got to change up, he's got to
sweep up like he's got the weapons to do it,
you know. But in this level, once you get ahead
of the cities, you've got to get him out of
the box.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
You have to.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
You can just let him get back into the bat
because then you empower them just to take over the
at bat, and then he becomes it becomes more more
challenging for you to put them away.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
The one guy you can discuss that it's kind of
embraced this opportunity I think is aj blue Ball. And
I hope that everything is okay with him in terms
of amount of pitching you've used him for. But you
have used him in a variety of ad avenues in
last week or so, and every time he's come through
for you.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, he's still on the ball. Well we know, you
know he could keep you that one in Like that
one inning he comes in and just really efficient and
then he could give you multiple innings like he did
in Boston. You know, but he's been really good. The
same thing you could say about Hey, wait ten, you
know the guy that comes in out of the pen
(03:27):
and he just it's just a good bridge. They keep
you in the game. They give you quality in and
quality out lefty rightings. You feel comfortable when they're out
there on the mound.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Joe spotted with us here on Sports Talk seven and
jan Air Diaz was pulled late yesterday. Uh, where are
we on him right now? What's the injury? How did
it come into play? And I know you've brought up
to says ourselves are but that's obviously you're looking for
some additional depth in that position right now.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, and you know he'll go he'll go on, he'll
be on the aisle and we will do we're doing
more tests today and and you know, but right now,
the initial diagnosis was that left side, that left side,
that old bleak and happened during VP. He was pretty
sore yesterday when it happened, and then like doing the game,
(04:17):
you know, he did feel that his comfort throughout the day.
So he tells you that it's going to be something
that it's going to take U some time for him
to recover from.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I hate that I have to be the doctor to
you or you're the doctor to me. But these obliques
have turned out to be fairly serious injuries. I know
that Jake's gone through that as well. What what's happening?
Are you noticing a trend with guys maybe trying to
put too much talking to their body during these springs.
Is there a particular reason why? Is this is the
natural progression of playing six days a week in Major
(04:49):
League baseball?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
You know, and and it's throughout the league. It's an
injury that is happening very frequently, you know always. You know,
we try to monitor the amount of swing, the amount
of work they do, hydration, nutrition, right you know, how
how their body is, how holding up, and you know,
this might be three of the reasons why this this
(05:14):
injury is happening. He's happening throughout the league. This is
a very common injury right now in Major league?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Is it troubling to you? I mean, and on this guy.
I could also go back to the number of arm
injuries not only you're going through, but baseball and I
know everyone's worried about their own individual teams, and you
can't worry about the injured list of Atlanta or Toronto
or anybody else. But when do you guys, as managerial brose,
just kind of sit back and say, can we do
something about this? Because it feels like, and looking at
(05:41):
Tark Scoople now is going to be going for a
while for the Detroit Tigers, and if you and ag
are going to trap about that. But your sport is
so beautiful, but it's not beautiful when you're using no disrespect.
But you've got a lot of four A players right
now that are trying to take up for these major superstars.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah, yeah, it's not ideal, right, mhm, it's it's happening
too often. And and you know fans come to the
ballpark to watch, like you mentioned the Terror School Balls,
the Hunter Browns like right, those other stars of this game,
and these injuries are are happening more often. You know,
guys are getting nastier. They're they're spinning the ball harder,
(06:18):
they're they're throwing the ball, you know, harder than ever
in this sport. And you know you carry enough enough
arms in your pen when you try to do the
best you can try to give this guy's opportunity for
them to succeed and and manage the bullpen in a
way where you give them enough rest. And but when
(06:41):
you go through stretches like the one that we've been
going through, you know, it takes a toll in some
of these guys. And you're trying to manage at the
best way you can, trying to give these guys time
off as best as you can. But it's it's it's
throughout the throughout the league, and the arms are hitting
this this you know, these moments of fatigue and and
(07:03):
and and and and and it's just wearing down on
on good clubs.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Joe, you've got your own worries, own battles with the
Dodgers across the dugout from you tonight. But uh, how
keen of an eye or an correspondence will you have
with what's happening in sugar Land. You've got three different
guys that you could desperate lead here in the not
too distant future to come help out your team. They're
going to pitch to night for the Space Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah, Yeah, it's a big dave there in sugar Land today.
We'll be keeping a close eye on on on what's
going on over there today. Three arms that we desperately need,
important arms, So we are going to monitor them and
then see how they feel postgame. EMI will start that game,
(07:45):
Josh Ada will go in the middle, and then Pierson
will finish the game, and then, you know, hopefully things
go well and we can continue their progression and hopefully
we can get Emi here at some point after that
next start.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
And I know they're not going to lie to you,
so I want to preface this, but they need to
be as open and honest with you, because my god,
your right side of your notes page or your media
notes is still full of injuries. You're balancing openers the
last couple of days, the last thing you got to do,
and we all want them back, but you can't rush them. So, UH,
tell me about their their DNA. I know that Emi
(08:18):
obviously the tired arm and being acclimated. Josh has been
gone a long period of time. You brought in Pierson
to be a guy that could fight for a roster spot.
They're desperate, but you're also desperate to win, but you're
also desperate to keep guys healthy and out there. Going
back and forth between Houston and Sugar Lane with players.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, and that's the balance that you have to keep.
You know, we need them, we need them here, and
but we need them healthy and we need them healthy
for the duration of the season. And they're pretty honest.
You know. Josh Ada is someone who takes really good
care of his body and he's very transparent about how
he feels. You know, Emi, we don't feel right now
(08:53):
like it's it's it's the it's an arm injury. It's
just more trying to get him going again and get
him get him throwing more strikes and just be more efficient.
So when you get up here, he could take us
give you some quality start. And Pearson looks really good.
He's someone that can that could give you, you know, a
start and throw out the pen. So we'll have a
(09:15):
better idea of where we go after tonight. After that
game in Sureland.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I'm going to talk to Bryce Matthews here shortly.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
He has embraced the center field spot as best he can. Uh,
what is it like watching him. He's an athlete, so
he's going to be able to do some things. But
the limited time he has played as an outfield of
Manjor leagues has obviously been documented. Uh, learning in Boston
is quite a trick, and he was able to do
very well for you it's past weekend.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah, especially you know, never been there, and how he
was able to adjust to the position and goes, you know,
credit to his athleticism and and he's coachable mindset where
he can put to play whatever you ask him to
do because he understands, you know, the position, but also
(10:05):
how to position himself, how to adjust, how to reach swings,
play balls off the wall, finding the wall once he
gets to the warning track. You know, baseball IQ has
play immensely here in his development, and like he said,
he has embraced center field and he started to swing
the bat well too. I think the power and the speed,
(10:26):
it's real. It's trying to get him just to be
more consistent and make more contact so he could be
like a real threat offensively.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Two last questions, Jose, you put in the five spot
the last week or so. Look, he's going to do
whatever you ask of him, and that's always been who
his DNA has been. But I'm curious what kind of
pitch selection he is getting. Is it any different in
your mind as you watch him batting fifth as compared
to maybe first or second or third in this Astros lineup.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
No, he's you know, we've been monitoring that he's been pitching.
He's been pitched the same way I think for Josey
right now, it's just you know a little mechanical uh,
you know, adjustments that he's he's making. He didn't ball
on the ground more often right now that he's that
he was doing the first couple of weeks of the season.
You know. But he's getting good, good pitches to hit
(11:15):
and you know, he's hit some ball startless. You know,
I think he's he's got a five six game hitting streak,
you know, I know that it don't look like that,
but he's gone to hit the last five six games.
So he is getting that that that hit and he's
getting on base. He's just we need to get him
to be you know, get to be a base a
little bit more multiple times per game. But I think
(11:38):
it's just, uh, you know, a week where all hitters
go through, you know, they go through a stretch of
games where things don't fall and don't have for you.
But he'll get hot here pretty soon.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And last question, I always thought at the end of
the day, Otanic would be more of an everyday hitter
as compared to pitcher. But the numbers this year are fantastic.
I don't know if you want to give us an
intelligent report, but the young man and Otani's got a
points six zerod e ra A. What are you noticing
today that maybe he didn't even did last year or
so while he was pitching.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
No, that he's you know, he's healthy. I think, you know,
he after that one year where you're trying to get
back from from an army injury. I think the year
the second year after you come back from the injury,
your stuff just kind of clicks in your arm. It's
it's one hundred percent. He's you know, he's he's healthy,
and he's throwing the ball really well. You know, he's
(12:27):
you know, he's one of those very rare talents, unique
talents in this game. And and and you know we
have we've had some good up beats against him in
the past. We've seen a lot of him. So we're
going to go into this with a pretty good idea
of what he's going to try to do. Skip.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Thank you for the visitor is always a visit In
next Tuesday and good luck Ty. I'll see you at
Dankin Park in a few hours. Thank you for the time,
as
Speaker 3 (12:46):
All right, I thank you
Every Tuesday. Here on the Matt Thomas Show at Ross,
we spend ten callity minutes with a manager of the
Houston Astros dropped the opener of the Dodgers last night,
game number two. Tonight, we'll have it for y'all. Have
the on Deck show from the ballpark at six o'clock,
first pitch at seven and ten. Joe a Spot is
with us on the show. Skip a good afternoon. Thank
you for the time. More of a macro view of
(00:22):
this running a bullpen game? Is it much more harrowing
than I think it is. I mean, and you'd love
it to be a perfect formula, but unfortunately it feels
like more times than not it's not.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, it's it's never a good you know, it's got
to go as planned, right, and and unfortunately that wasn't
the case yesterday.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
You know, but we you know, we are in a
position where.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
We try to piece it together until we get you know,
the rest of our guys, and sometimes you know, it
goes it goes well.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
You know, I think in Boston the day before on
Sunday it was you know, he played out are we
And then yesterday was one of those days that it
just seemed play out the way we want.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
It, and unfortunately, when you can't get Oaka out of
the first inning, it pushes everybody up a little bit.
I know, Ryan Weiss was a guy that really wanted
to come into camp and be a starter. The numbers
is han't bared out. What are you noticing about him?
And I know there has been some talk about maybe
a move down to sugar Land, And I don't know
if you've made that official gist yet, but just a
thought or two about Ryan, because I know when I
(01:34):
talked to him during Astrofest, he came in not only
looking forward to being a major leaguer for the first time,
but maybe cracking your starting rotation.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, you know, and and if you look at if
you look at it, he's outing yesterday, right, you know
how how he was ahead often and then once he
got to that O two one two count, just not
being able to execute and finish your hit or executing
a pitch more of a chase pitch, just kind of
leaving pitches like out over the plate, like in the
(02:04):
middle of the plate where good hitters are going to handle.
And that has been one of the issues for Ryan
right now that you know he is trying to work through.
When you have plus stuff the way he does. Hitters
should not be squaring squaring your pitches up the way
(02:25):
they they've been up late, right, they he should be
able to wipe them away with in ninety eight mileth
pour frastball. He's got to change up, he's got to
sweep up like he's got the weapons to do it,
you know. But in this level, once you get ahead
of the cities, you've got to get him out of
the box.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
You have to.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
You can just let him get back into the bat
because then you empower them just to take over the
at bat, and then he becomes it becomes more more
challenging for you to put them away.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
The one guy you can discuss that it's kind of
embraced this opportunity I think is aj blue Ball. And
I hope that everything is okay with him in terms
of amount of pitching you've used him for. But you
have used him in a variety of ad avenues in
last week or so, and every time he's come through
for you.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, he's still on the ball. Well we know, you
know he could keep you that one in Like that
one inning he comes in and just really efficient and
then he could give you multiple innings like he did
in Boston. You know, but he's been really good. The
same thing you could say about Hey, wait ten, you
know the guy that comes in out of the pen
(03:27):
and he just it's just a good bridge. They keep
you in the game. They give you quality in and
quality out lefty rightings. You feel comfortable when they're out
there on the mound.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Joe spotted with us here on Sports Talk seven and
jan Air Diaz was pulled late yesterday. Uh, where are
we on him right now? What's the injury? How did
it come into play? And I know you've brought up
to says ourselves are but that's obviously you're looking for
some additional depth in that position right now.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, and you know he'll go he'll go on, he'll
be on the aisle and we will do we're doing
more tests today and and you know, but right now,
the initial diagnosis was that left side, that left side,
that old bleak and happened during VP. He was pretty
sore yesterday when it happened, and then like doing the game,
(04:17):
you know, he did feel that his comfort throughout the day.
So he tells you that it's going to be something
that it's going to take U some time for him
to recover from.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I hate that I have to be the doctor to
you or you're the doctor to me. But these obliques
have turned out to be fairly serious injuries. I know
that Jake's gone through that as well. What what's happening?
Are you noticing a trend with guys maybe trying to
put too much talking to their body during these springs.
Is there a particular reason why? Is this is the
natural progression of playing six days a week in Major
(04:49):
League baseball?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
You know, and and it's throughout the league. It's an
injury that is happening very frequently, you know always. You know,
we try to monitor the amount of swing, the amount
of work they do, hydration, nutrition, right you know, how
how their body is, how holding up, and you know,
this might be three of the reasons why this this
(05:14):
injury is happening. He's happening throughout the league. This is
a very common injury right now in Major league?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Is it troubling to you? I mean, and on this guy.
I could also go back to the number of arm
injuries not only you're going through, but baseball and I
know everyone's worried about their own individual teams, and you
can't worry about the injured list of Atlanta or Toronto
or anybody else. But when do you guys, as managerial brose,
just kind of sit back and say, can we do
something about this? Because it feels like, and looking at
(05:41):
Tark Scoople now is going to be going for a
while for the Detroit Tigers, and if you and ag
are going to trap about that. But your sport is
so beautiful, but it's not beautiful when you're using no disrespect.
But you've got a lot of four A players right
now that are trying to take up for these major superstars.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah, yeah, it's not ideal, right, mhm, it's it's happening
too often. And and you know fans come to the
ballpark to watch, like you mentioned the Terror School Balls,
the Hunter Browns like right, those other stars of this game,
and these injuries are are happening more often. You know,
guys are getting nastier. They're they're spinning the ball harder,
(06:18):
they're they're throwing the ball, you know, harder than ever
in this sport. And you know you carry enough enough
arms in your pen when you try to do the
best you can try to give this guy's opportunity for
them to succeed and and manage the bullpen in a
way where you give them enough rest. And but when
(06:41):
you go through stretches like the one that we've been
going through, you know, it takes a toll in some
of these guys. And you're trying to manage at the
best way you can, trying to give these guys time
off as best as you can. But it's it's it's
throughout the throughout the league, and the arms are hitting
this this you know, these moments of fatigue and and
(07:03):
and and and and and it's just wearing down on
on good clubs.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Joe, you've got your own worries, own battles with the
Dodgers across the dugout from you tonight. But uh, how
keen of an eye or an correspondence will you have
with what's happening in sugar Land. You've got three different
guys that you could desperate lead here in the not
too distant future to come help out your team. They're
going to pitch to night for the Space Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah, Yeah, it's a big dave there in sugar Land today.
We'll be keeping a close eye on on on what's
going on over there today. Three arms that we desperately need,
important arms, So we are going to monitor them and
then see how they feel postgame. EMI will start that game,
(07:45):
Josh Ada will go in the middle, and then Pierson
will finish the game, and then, you know, hopefully things
go well and we can continue their progression and hopefully
we can get Emi here at some point after that
next start.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
And I know they're not going to lie to you,
so I want to preface this, but they need to
be as open and honest with you, because my god,
your right side of your notes page or your media
notes is still full of injuries. You're balancing openers the
last couple of days, the last thing you got to do,
and we all want them back, but you can't rush them. So, UH,
tell me about their their DNA. I know that Emi
(08:18):
obviously the tired arm and being acclimated. Josh has been
gone a long period of time. You brought in Pierson
to be a guy that could fight for a roster spot.
They're desperate, but you're also desperate to win, but you're
also desperate to keep guys healthy and out there. Going
back and forth between Houston and Sugar Lane with players.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, and that's the balance that you have to keep.
You know, we need them, we need them here, and
but we need them healthy and we need them healthy
for the duration of the season. And they're pretty honest.
You know. Josh Ada is someone who takes really good
care of his body and he's very transparent about how
he feels. You know, Emi, we don't feel right now
(08:53):
like it's it's it's the it's an arm injury. It's
just more trying to get him going again and get
him get him throwing more strikes and just be more efficient.
So when you get up here, he could take us
give you some quality start. And Pearson looks really good.
He's someone that can that could give you, you know, a
start and throw out the pen. So we'll have a
(09:15):
better idea of where we go after tonight. After that
game in Sureland.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I'm going to talk to Bryce Matthews here shortly.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
He has embraced the center field spot as best he can. Uh,
what is it like watching him. He's an athlete, so
he's going to be able to do some things. But
the limited time he has played as an outfield of
Manjor leagues has obviously been documented. Uh, learning in Boston
is quite a trick, and he was able to do
very well for you it's past weekend.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah, especially you know, never been there, and how he
was able to adjust to the position and goes, you know,
credit to his athleticism and and he's coachable mindset where
he can put to play whatever you ask him to
do because he understands, you know, the position, but also
(10:05):
how to position himself, how to adjust, how to reach swings,
play balls off the wall, finding the wall once he
gets to the warning track. You know, baseball IQ has
play immensely here in his development, and like he said,
he has embraced center field and he started to swing
the bat well too. I think the power and the speed,
(10:26):
it's real. It's trying to get him just to be
more consistent and make more contact so he could be
like a real threat offensively.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Two last questions, Jose, you put in the five spot
the last week or so. Look, he's going to do
whatever you ask of him, and that's always been who
his DNA has been. But I'm curious what kind of
pitch selection he is getting. Is it any different in
your mind as you watch him batting fifth as compared
to maybe first or second or third in this Astros lineup.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
No, he's you know, we've been monitoring that he's been pitching.
He's been pitched the same way I think for Josey
right now, it's just you know a little mechanical uh,
you know, adjustments that he's he's making. He didn't ball
on the ground more often right now that he's that
he was doing the first couple of weeks of the season.
You know. But he's getting good, good pitches to hit
(11:15):
and you know, he's hit some ball startless. You know,
I think he's he's got a five six game hitting streak,
you know, I know that it don't look like that,
but he's gone to hit the last five six games.
So he is getting that that that hit and he's
getting on base. He's just we need to get him
to be you know, get to be a base a
little bit more multiple times per game. But I think
(11:38):
it's just, uh, you know, a week where all hitters
go through, you know, they go through a stretch of
games where things don't fall and don't have for you.
But he'll get hot here pretty soon.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And last question, I always thought at the end of
the day, Otanic would be more of an everyday hitter
as compared to pitcher. But the numbers this year are fantastic.
I don't know if you want to give us an
intelligent report, but the young man and Otani's got a
points six zerod e ra A. What are you noticing
today that maybe he didn't even did last year or
so while he was pitching.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
No, that he's you know, he's healthy. I think, you know,
he after that one year where you're trying to get
back from from an army injury. I think the year
the second year after you come back from the injury,
your stuff just kind of clicks in your arm. It's
it's one hundred percent. He's you know, he's he's healthy,
and he's throwing the ball really well. You know, he's
(12:27):
you know, he's one of those very rare talents, unique
talents in this game. And and and you know we
have we've had some good up beats against him in
the past. We've seen a lot of him. So we're
going to go into this with a pretty good idea
of what he's going to try to do. Skip.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Thank you for the visitor is always a visit In
next Tuesday and good luck Ty. I'll see you at
Dankin Park in a few hours. Thank you for the time,
as
Speaker 3 (12:46):
All right, I thank you
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