August 13, 2024 • 10 mins
Continuing their winning streak and now extending to six straight games won, the Astros proceed to lead the AL West division. With still a few starters sitting out, Kyle Tucker was seen attempting to perform basic workouts but still looks unable to return. Can Kyle's season be considered over?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury. Okay, let's do this. Sean Salisbury to usc Truth,
longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury, Brian Lima, go Lobos. This is
the Sean Salsbury show.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Beat writer for the Astros, works for MLB dot com.
He posted some video yesterday of Kyle Tucker quote unquote
working out at Tropicana Field taking some fly balls, attempting
to do a couple of crow hops, maybe some high knees,
some running drills, if you will, not even running drills, Shawn,
(00:44):
I showed you the video you watched yesterday last night.
Just by watching some of these video clips, he's still
moving around with a limp. Doesn't look like you can
put a lot of pressure on that leg in his
crow hops. He's just kind of moving around, kind of gingerly.
There was no base running like we thought we were
(01:05):
going to see, no sprinting. I mean, I guess it's
a step in the right direction. But if he's attempting it,
I guess it is.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
But man, just watching these videos, he's not going to
be back this month.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
He's not going to even be back by the start
of September. Doesn't look very smooth right now, does it. Now? No,
the fact that he's doing more.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Steve Sparks mentioned and Dana Brown has in the past
too pain more pain free. But it still looks like
I mean, from from that vantage point, right, he looks
a little looks a little painful. So I don't expect
to see him in August. But we've been we've been
holding out that thing for a while now. I asked
the question to Dana Brown three weeks ago, said you,
(01:48):
is there a chance we won't see him till September?
And he said he'd be disappointed at that. But here
we are. We are a few days away from the
middle of August, and he hasn't been sent down for
assignment yet. Yeah, there's no way you've seen him in August. No,
because Steve sparksman what five or six games of he's
not there yet. And so I just to me, that
(02:11):
video looks to me as if there's still pain and
lack of full motion and the rest of it, and
doesn't look like he can apply a lot of pressure
to the area. That's just me from observing, not a doctor.
So well, I guess it's a step in the right direction.
That STEP's a very slow one. Yeah, I mean, we're
are process.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
It's August thirteenth, I would say, I mean we still
haven't seen him do base running drills.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
He hasn't sprinted.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
He's barely moving around you know some uh he's moving
gingerly on it.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
We're literally take take this week out of it. How
many games two weeks away from the beginning of September?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
What are we forty five games left? Forty four games left? Yeah, okay,
two more weeks. That's ten more games, right, correct, say
before he leaves, and then another week of his six games,
another five to eight games, so let's say almost twenty games.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Because by the time he gets back.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You're gonna hope he gets hot and gets into his
spring training rhythm with the Makes League team the last
twenty some games, and that he's primed for the playoffs.
That's what you're hoping. I'm just time gets to the
point where it just it logically.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
You can't keep saying, oh, he'll be back for forty
two of the games. No, he won't. They'll be through
this series, they'll be through another. Before you know it,
you're gonna be down to thirty four games, and then
he's gonna be two weeks, which they said five or
six games, which is, you know, with a ten ten
more games, so you're down to twenty plus games if
he comes back. Even when we're saying you hope he
(03:45):
comes back, you're gonna hope he finds his rhythm in
those last twenty games and then is at his best
and fully healthy and seeing things the way you want
to see it, where he can play nine innings every
day and explode through the you know, with that get
that front foot and do his thing and play right
field like a gold glover and be ready for the
last twenty games or so and twenty five games if
(04:07):
you're lucky and be ready for the PLUB postseason. You
can't count anything more than that right now. If you
got ten more games with minute, there's what fourteen more games,
and he's not playing any more games here, so that
gets you to thirty and we're in September. Yes, there's
(04:27):
been no times frame set for when he's supposed to
go to his minor league assignment. If that hasn't been said, yah, yeah,
next week. We know vern Landers got one in, so
one more and we should see him. You don't even
know when he's going if you get Kyle Tucker for
twenty five regular season games from here on out, you
should be grateful.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I don't see it happening any sooner than that. I
don't either.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I think they'd be lucky to get him out on
a rehab start by Labor Day, which is a couple
of weeks away.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Unless what you see on that video is just just
to like the old pull the old okie doke where
he's shows people in the video that he's not moving,
but in truth it feels better. But you know, Brian's
putting it up there and I love it.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I mean, you've seen him work out. We want to
see his workout, so thanks to Brian. But McTaggart, I
just to me from looking at that and him still
not a sign. Like I said, if you see him
before Labor Day, you should probably count your blessings. He's
he's not going on how yeah, how and the time
becomes time is becoming a factor. Yeah, So you're gonna
(05:27):
hold and then you hope when he's back that he's
playing at full strength and feeling it, because what's the
one thing going into the postseason people don't want to
hear from Kyle See about Kyle Tucker a poor postseason.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Right because you've seen it already.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Right, they don't want to and I know the injury,
but the longer it takes, the more he's gonna have
to play his way back into games.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
It's all.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
It's he's starting over basically like it's spring. He really is,
because he hasn't had live at bats for long. Well,
it'll be over three months by the time he gets
back on the third. Over three months he hasn't had
live at bats, he hasn't taken on the field.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
BP. That's a that's three quarters.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
If I say in three months football seam is going
to be almost over. If we if we're starting September,
say he'll be ready in three months, and that's twelve.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Think about how much you're like, gosh, that's a long time.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Now apply that to summer baseball and I know it
gets muddied and stuff. It's gonna be three months minimum
before he sees the field. Wow, crazy, isn't it crazy?
So you just got to hope he's right for the
stretch run and the postseason.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Do you think he is?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I like I think or do I think I'm going
to see him this year. Yes, am I concerned that
that where he's going to be. Here's the problem with this,
you've taken so long you start to hear the whispers.
It's like, Okay, I'm at ninety percent. I'm gonna go play,
and that's that's fine, But hopefully that ninety percent doesn't
put you in danger of well, what if he fouls
it off again? You know what I'm saying, which can
(06:57):
happen with You know, those guys seem to be doing
that a lot, and I mean you know they're wearing
all the armor and everything, but.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, you can't go out there and wear a whole
ass shin guard. That's like a whole catching guard.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Right, So so you're gonna wait till he's one hundred
percent healthy and that that's I'm gonna just say. In
my mind, you're looking at twenty two to thirty games
before you see him again. Because of the month of August,
there's minimum of fourteen or fifteen left, right, and then
you'll be down to like I said, if if they
play fifteen more games, you'd be down to thirty games,
(07:31):
basically twenty nine games. And then think how long it
takes some guys to get into there. Think how long
it took Bregman to get in his form. A lot
longer than twenty five games, like fifty sixty and then.
But if you're gonna win a World Series, I think
you need that guy in right field. I mean, Mookie
Betts comes back from my own hits a bomb last
(07:52):
night and got another base hitting, drove in another runt.
You got to Kyle Tucker. You need him because all
this is fine and dandy. But I'm more concerned about
Kyle Tucker than I than I am the pitching staff. Yeah,
I swear the way they've pitched, I'm not with They're
getting people out and it's a good sign, and they're
not giving free passes, which is nice to see.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
The strikeout to walk.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Ratio over the last month seems like, I don't know
what the number, it sure seems dominant. It seems like
it's so dominant in the favor of strikeouts to walks,
where there was a time this year when I mean
three and four and five and six walks they get
got out of hand Frommer's cut his down. You see
the Eric Getty's cut his down, and we obviously know
(08:41):
what Kakoochi's been bringing to the table in the last
two starts or his first two starts here, it's been
pretty impressive.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So let's see. Yeah, I could, I could probably find that,
but it might take me a minute.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I mean, just it's got to be more overwhelming on
the strikeouts to walks, just the percentage of as opposed
to where it started.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
The free passes, they are limiting them, which is a
good thing. Yeah, let's see, at least from the naked
eye watching me, I'm talking about the starting staff.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, I'll get that as we get ready to go
to breaks. We got to get to the stakeout. But
I would say, I would say it's dropped dramatically.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, it feels like it looks and I think the
results are telling you that too.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah. They're pitching.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, And as far as Kyle Tucker's can serve for me,
I think they get fifteen games from him because just
watching what I watched last night, knowing that he hasn't
hit VP, hasn't taken live live at bats, hasn't gone
on a rehab start, hasn't ran, hasn't sprinted. I just
don't see how he's backed by Labor Day. Like I
just don't see it. I'm talking like the rehab rehab
(09:42):
start yeah by in a major league uniform bye after
Labor Day, No for me, before I agree, crazy man
off of foul ball, bone Bruis.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
That's serious. That's a serious foul ball, dude, a lot
of velocity. It's the wrong spot on fortunately.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, all right, let's let's get to the steakout next.
Salsbury. Okay, let's do this. Sean Salisbury to usc Truth,
longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury, Brian Lima, go Lobos. This is
the Sean Salsbury show.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Beat writer for the Astros, works for MLB dot com.
He posted some video yesterday of Kyle Tucker quote unquote
working out at Tropicana Field taking some fly balls, attempting
to do a couple of crow hops, maybe some high knees,
some running drills, if you will, not even running drills, Shawn,
(00:44):
I showed you the video you watched yesterday last night.
Just by watching some of these video clips, he's still
moving around with a limp. Doesn't look like you can
put a lot of pressure on that leg in his
crow hops. He's just kind of moving around, kind of gingerly.
There was no base running like we thought we were
(01:05):
going to see, no sprinting. I mean, I guess it's
a step in the right direction. But if he's attempting it,
I guess it is.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
But man, just watching these videos, he's not going to
be back this month.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
He's not going to even be back by the start
of September. Doesn't look very smooth right now, does it. Now? No,
the fact that he's doing more.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Steve Sparks mentioned and Dana Brown has in the past
too pain more pain free. But it still looks like
I mean, from from that vantage point, right, he looks
a little looks a little painful. So I don't expect
to see him in August. But we've been we've been
holding out that thing for a while now. I asked
the question to Dana Brown three weeks ago, said you,
(01:48):
is there a chance we won't see him till September?
And he said he'd be disappointed at that. But here
we are. We are a few days away from the
middle of August, and he hasn't been sent down for
assignment yet. Yeah, there's no way you've seen him in August. No,
because Steve sparksman what five or six games of he's
not there yet. And so I just to me, that
(02:11):
video looks to me as if there's still pain and
lack of full motion and the rest of it, and
doesn't look like he can apply a lot of pressure
to the area. That's just me from observing, not a doctor.
So well, I guess it's a step in the right direction.
That STEP's a very slow one. Yeah, I mean, we're
are process.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
It's August thirteenth, I would say, I mean we still
haven't seen him do base running drills.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
He hasn't sprinted.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
He's barely moving around you know some uh he's moving
gingerly on it.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
We're literally take take this week out of it. How
many games two weeks away from the beginning of September?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
What are we forty five games left? Forty four games left? Yeah, okay,
two more weeks. That's ten more games, right, correct, say
before he leaves, and then another week of his six games,
another five to eight games, so let's say almost twenty games.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Because by the time he gets back.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You're gonna hope he gets hot and gets into his
spring training rhythm with the Makes League team the last
twenty some games, and that he's primed for the playoffs.
That's what you're hoping. I'm just time gets to the
point where it just it logically.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
You can't keep saying, oh, he'll be back for forty
two of the games. No, he won't. They'll be through
this series, they'll be through another. Before you know it,
you're gonna be down to thirty four games, and then
he's gonna be two weeks, which they said five or
six games, which is, you know, with a ten ten
more games, so you're down to twenty plus games if
he comes back. Even when we're saying you hope he
(03:45):
comes back, you're gonna hope he finds his rhythm in
those last twenty games and then is at his best
and fully healthy and seeing things the way you want
to see it, where he can play nine innings every
day and explode through the you know, with that get
that front foot and do his thing and play right
field like a gold glover and be ready for the
last twenty games or so and twenty five games if
(04:07):
you're lucky and be ready for the PLUB postseason. You
can't count anything more than that right now. If you
got ten more games with minute, there's what fourteen more games,
and he's not playing any more games here, so that
gets you to thirty and we're in September. Yes, there's
(04:27):
been no times frame set for when he's supposed to
go to his minor league assignment. If that hasn't been said, yah, yeah,
next week. We know vern Landers got one in, so
one more and we should see him. You don't even
know when he's going if you get Kyle Tucker for
twenty five regular season games from here on out, you
should be grateful.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I don't see it happening any sooner than that. I
don't either.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I think they'd be lucky to get him out on
a rehab start by Labor Day, which is a couple
of weeks away.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Unless what you see on that video is just just
to like the old pull the old okie doke where
he's shows people in the video that he's not moving,
but in truth it feels better. But you know, Brian's
putting it up there and I love it.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I mean, you've seen him work out. We want to
see his workout, so thanks to Brian. But McTaggart, I
just to me from looking at that and him still
not a sign. Like I said, if you see him
before Labor Day, you should probably count your blessings. He's
he's not going on how yeah, how and the time
becomes time is becoming a factor. Yeah, So you're gonna
(05:27):
hold and then you hope when he's back that he's
playing at full strength and feeling it, because what's the
one thing going into the postseason people don't want to
hear from Kyle See about Kyle Tucker a poor postseason.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Right because you've seen it already.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Right, they don't want to and I know the injury,
but the longer it takes, the more he's gonna have
to play his way back into games.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
It's all.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
It's he's starting over basically like it's spring. He really is,
because he hasn't had live at bats for long. Well,
it'll be over three months by the time he gets
back on the third. Over three months he hasn't had
live at bats, he hasn't taken on the field.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
BP. That's a that's three quarters.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
If I say in three months football seam is going
to be almost over. If we if we're starting September,
say he'll be ready in three months, and that's twelve.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Think about how much you're like, gosh, that's a long time.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Now apply that to summer baseball and I know it
gets muddied and stuff. It's gonna be three months minimum
before he sees the field. Wow, crazy, isn't it crazy?
So you just got to hope he's right for the
stretch run and the postseason.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Do you think he is?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I like I think or do I think I'm going
to see him this year. Yes, am I concerned that
that where he's going to be. Here's the problem with this,
you've taken so long you start to hear the whispers.
It's like, Okay, I'm at ninety percent. I'm gonna go play,
and that's that's fine, But hopefully that ninety percent doesn't
put you in danger of well, what if he fouls
it off again? You know what I'm saying, which can
(06:57):
happen with You know, those guys seem to be doing
that a lot, and I mean you know they're wearing
all the armor and everything, but.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, you can't go out there and wear a whole
ass shin guard. That's like a whole catching guard.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Right, So so you're gonna wait till he's one hundred
percent healthy and that that's I'm gonna just say. In
my mind, you're looking at twenty two to thirty games
before you see him again. Because of the month of August,
there's minimum of fourteen or fifteen left, right, and then
you'll be down to like I said, if if they
play fifteen more games, you'd be down to thirty games,
(07:31):
basically twenty nine games. And then think how long it
takes some guys to get into there. Think how long
it took Bregman to get in his form. A lot
longer than twenty five games, like fifty sixty and then.
But if you're gonna win a World Series, I think
you need that guy in right field. I mean, Mookie
Betts comes back from my own hits a bomb last
(07:52):
night and got another base hitting, drove in another runt.
You got to Kyle Tucker. You need him because all
this is fine and dandy. But I'm more concerned about
Kyle Tucker than I than I am the pitching staff. Yeah,
I swear the way they've pitched, I'm not with They're
getting people out and it's a good sign, and they're
not giving free passes, which is nice to see.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
The strikeout to walk.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Ratio over the last month seems like, I don't know
what the number, it sure seems dominant. It seems like
it's so dominant in the favor of strikeouts to walks,
where there was a time this year when I mean
three and four and five and six walks they get
got out of hand Frommer's cut his down. You see
the Eric Getty's cut his down, and we obviously know
(08:41):
what Kakoochi's been bringing to the table in the last
two starts or his first two starts here, it's been
pretty impressive.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So let's see. Yeah, I could, I could probably find that,
but it might take me a minute.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I mean, just it's got to be more overwhelming on
the strikeouts to walks, just the percentage of as opposed
to where it started.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
The free passes, they are limiting them, which is a
good thing. Yeah, let's see, at least from the naked
eye watching me, I'm talking about the starting staff.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, I'll get that as we get ready to go
to breaks. We got to get to the stakeout. But
I would say, I would say it's dropped dramatically.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, it feels like it looks and I think the
results are telling you that too.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah. They're pitching.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, And as far as Kyle Tucker's can serve for me,
I think they get fifteen games from him because just
watching what I watched last night, knowing that he hasn't
hit VP, hasn't taken live live at bats, hasn't gone
on a rehab start, hasn't ran, hasn't sprinted. I just
don't see how he's backed by Labor Day. Like I
just don't see it. I'm talking like the rehab rehab
(09:42):
start yeah by in a major league uniform bye after
Labor Day, No for me, before I agree, crazy man
off of foul ball, bone Bruis.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
That's serious. That's a serious foul ball, dude, a lot
of velocity. It's the wrong spot on fortunately.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, all right, let's let's get to the steakout next.
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