June 24, 2026 • 48 mins
We had some technical difficulties this week and lost the entire episode we recorded. Since we don't have that for you, here's the time Alex and Curtis interviewed a vampire back in 2014.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, gang, It's Alex the moon Dog.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You know here, boy. We recorded an entire really really
fun episode to Pass the Gravy today, me, myself, Pat
and Harley, and for some reason there were some technical
difficulties that made it where that video and audio just disappeared.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I don't know how it happened.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I don't know why it happened. Hopefully, by by some miracle,
we could sort of salvage it, and if we will,
we can. I will post that, but we couldn't. I
left the station today, that's the studio to day without
any audio or video from today. We did prep I did.
We had all kinds of awesome stuff for you. I
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thought it was great. And the episode is gonna be
called Dry Sleep.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
The episode's gonna be called Dry Sleep.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And yeah, I wish I could be giving you that
right now instead of this, but because I cannot, I
found a really really old episode of one time in
the very beginning of Past the Gravy. And these are
the bad days of PASTI Gravy. I'm not saying they're
good now, but I'm just saying they were bad then
quality wise. So this is kind of very on brand
with us having a new episode from today. This is
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the time that myself and Curtis the Godfather Chaffin interviewed
a vampire and it's just kind of my default, like,
oh shit, something fucked up.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Here's this for you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
So the video is probably gonna be pretty boring because
this is it.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
This is just me doing the video of the audio.
It's fine, you guys are gonna love it.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
It'll be a little dated because it was like twenty fifteen,
but this is me and Curtis Chafin's interview with a
vampire from back in the day. Please don't stop listening
to the podcast, Please still subscribe and all that stuff.
I apologize again, and hopefully we'll be back and at
full strength with an actual podcast that's new next week.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Love you guys.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
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Now Houston Baby, No, we go ahead and lick and
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we'll get rich today.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Nich bitch, you've got past the gravy. And for the
first time ever, we actually got a vampire to come
on the show. Today, we are joined by Vodolock.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
How's it going today, buddy, It's going pretty good. It's
been an interesting week already, but I'm looking forward to this.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, we've been looking forward to it since we spoke
on email at first about a week ago. But let's
get right into it. Where do vampires come from?
Speaker 6 (02:59):
Uh, that's a good question. A lot of people out
there like to say that vampires can be made, or
that they're awakened by a sire. Unfortunately, this isn't true.
We're born the way we are and if you're not
born one, you're not one. You're never going to be one.
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That's the flat out bottom line.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So how do you know you're born one?
Speaker 6 (03:27):
People usually start realizing that there's something different about them
between the ages of seven and fourteen, pre puberty. It
starts very early for a lot of us. It's it's
being able to feel other people's energy, being able to
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sense when someone is upset. There's a lot of empathy involved,
and we tend to be and we're sickly as children growing.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Up, so you get sick or more often.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Yes, there's a lot of discussion out there regarding why
we are the way we are, and some people like
to say that we're something else, but we're not. We're
just human and we have an energy deficiency. And there
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are a lot of people who want to dismiss even that.
And the problem with that is is that there are
a large handful of physical disorders, disabilities, illnesses that we
share in common, and the number of those is far
too great to just be coincidence. So when we start
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realizing at a younger age that we're not like everyone
else and we're having problems doing things that everyone else
should be able to do and can do, you know,
you know how kids are. They can be cruel. They
spot things and the moment someone stands out, they isolate you.
And that's something we have to learn to deal with
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right off the bat.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
So, so like did you get do you go to
a doctor to be diagnosed or do you it's kind
of a self diagnosis.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
It's a it's a moment of self awareness. It's like
when someone realizes that even though they've been raised to
be Christian, they're actually Buddhist, or they're actually Hindi or Muslim.
It's a moment of self awareness where you realize everything
that you've been taught should be right, isn't right, and
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the only thing that makes sense is what feels right.
There are people out there walking around who are energy
vampires and have no idea because they refuse to accept
the simple truth that they're not producing a certain type
of energy in their body and the only way to
get it is from other people. And I'm sure both
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of you have been in a room where someone has
walked in and the life just dropped out of the
room for no reason. That's interesting, and typically that is
an energy vampire who doesn't know what they are walking
into a crowd miserable and suddenly they're feeling a lot
better than everyone else is miserable.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Okay, so just for everyone else's energy vampires like someone
who like kind of takes in, feeds off everyone else's energy,
and kind of sucks out of the room.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
To say, oh, Generally, when that happens, they're not aware
of what they are. Actual self aware energy vampires are
very cautious and very careful about what they do and
how they do it. One of the rules within the
community is never take without being freely given.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Never.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
It's a big no no, and it can get people
in a lot of trouble for doing.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It, like legal trouble.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
Uh, depending on what they do. Yeah, if someone is
really stupid and doesn't try to educate themselves, but what
they are and does something incredibly stupid, yeah they can
get in trouble with the law. But for the most part,
we go out of our way to make sure that
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we don't do anything wrong. I'm sure you've seen on
TV people being accused of being vampires doing horrific things.
They're not part of our community, none of them are.
And whenever the media starts throwing around the word vampire,
it makes every one of us cringe and just brace
for impact because we know it's coming and it's an
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unfortunate thing that we have to deal with.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So there's a bunch of this like you wouldn't consider
the vampires.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Then, No, not even a little bit.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
It's like someone who just watched like a vampire type
genre movie and just like, oh, I want to do that,
and they just go out and make a menace of themselves.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
Exactly exactly. There are stupid people everywhere, and they are
weak minded people everywhere who are easily influenced, and you
will find that the majority of actual vampires are very intelligent,
very strong willed, and very very much aware of their
surroundings and who's around them.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
When when I was doing some research, I realized there's
vamp what are called vampire courts, and I guess it's
not like an association of vampires.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Yeah, the courts, good lord, I am not part of court.
I am not officially part of any house. It is
an association of like minded vampires who come together to
have a social community in which they can step out
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of the shadows and be free with who they are
with others like themselves. Unfortunately, the courts, they like to
set themselves up in ways that have people kissing rings
and bowing down and kissing ass which a lot of
us just want no part of because seriously, who wants
to be a ring kisser and not have any kind
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of say in what goes on in their community?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
That's what like, that's what When I was watching the
videos of that, they were the weird kind of like
vampires like, hey, look at me, I'm a vampire. I'm
gonna go out in public and do this, and well,
talking to you, you don't seem like you just flaunting
around all the time.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
No, I don't. I don't hide it either. I'm actually
fairly public about what I am. I'm a published author,
like I explain and earlier, and my pen name is
La Nance. You can find me on lulud dot com.
I do not make any secret about my being a
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vampire to anyone. If anyone asks, I tell them the truth.
I'm honest about it. On Halloween, yeah, I'll dress up.
It's fun.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Everybody likes a Halloween.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
No, I'm usually homicidalmaniac. They look like everyone else. Thank you,
Wednesday Adams. Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Have you ever been a part of a court and
you're just like, what am I doing?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Like?
Speaker 4 (10:39):
What are these people?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Never?
Speaker 7 (10:42):
I about twenty years ago, I tried to be really
involved in the community, and I tried to find a
house or court to get involved with, and there was
a level of arrogance at the time that was just
The Republican Party has nothing on arrogance in consideration to
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the way the courts were twenty years ago.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
They have no competition there with the arrogance none. It
was so bad that I found myself going, you know what,
you're a bunch of assholes. I want nothing to do
with you, and went and did my own thing. The
last four to five years, I've become more active within
the community again, and ninety nine percent of that arrogance
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is gone now. A lot of the old court systems
are gone. There are a few places that still hold
on to them. But they realized that they could not
keep doing business the way they were, and they loosened
things up. They became more understanding and less strict and
ass wholish about the way they do things.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And the way you were describing them earlier just made
it seem like they were a vampire fraternity. Yeah, back
fans and shit back.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
They they kind of were, and it was it was
really sad. It's like when I was thirteen, I spent
some time growing up in Mississippi. I've moved all over
the place as it could, and I went to this
one Baptist church and hung out with the guys there,
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and they were all baptized and good Christians, and they
did everything they were supposed to do. But the moment
they stepped off church property, they went they immediately grabbed
their beers. They're swearing and everything that the Baptist Church
is against and just went on their merry way. And
they would put it all away on Sunday and pretend
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to be these nice people again. And that's the way
the old courts were. When they weren't being publicly viewed,
they were a bunch of assholes. But when they were
publicly viewed, they put on their pretty faces and they
wore their pretty mask and they tried come off as
being regal and noble, and they weren't.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
They were politicians.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Yes, like I said, the Republican Party has nothing on
the arrogance of the vampire courts of twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I could also see how like people they can act
out because they're around a group.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Of people that they there's not.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
It's a small group of people, and they're like finally,
you know, hanging out and socializing with people that are
like them, and that that would give you know, that
would give anyone, you know, some confidence, and people may
do some crazy things. I can kind of see where
they would be as wholish and whatever.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Well, there is a social hierarchy in any community, any community,
or a social activity that is established with any human society.
Anytime you get more than five people together, a social
hierarchy is going to be established. Decent people will not
take advantage of that. Intelligent people will not take advantage
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of that. It's people who have low self esteem and
are have no self confidence that take advantage of those
social orders and that social hierarchy and try to push
themselves further and higher into it.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
All right, you're an energy vampire.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Right, this is my first one. Well, I've done some
I've done some written interviews within the community, but this
is my first interview outside of the community.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Okay, but you're you're you would consider yourself an energy vampire, correct?
All right? There, when I would doing research, there was
I think sex and blood were other types of vampires.
Are those valid, like recognized types of vampires.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Or there is there is sanguine vampism and there is
tantric vampism. Both are very valid. What you need to
understand is that vampires do have a deficiency. Now, on
the page you showed me, they were saying that that
only showed up after the movie Life Force in nineteen
eighty five. That's not true. The movie Life Force, they
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had access to someone who knew something about the community
and they wrote that in the idea that we have
a deficiency has been around for a very long time.
It's one of those simple realities of being a vampire.
It's one of those things that you realize early on
in childhood. The psychic vampires, they feed primarily on prana,
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on energy. Sexual vampires feed on that energy, but the
only way they can access it is through sexual tension.
It doesn't necessarily have to be intercourse. It can be
through flirting, it can be through any activity that can
lead to sexual tension. As long as that energy builds,
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they have something to feed on. Sanguine vampires, the way
they access that that energy is through blood. And there
are those in the community who say that's not necessary,
but most of them are not sanguine and don't understand
just how important that connection is. And to try and
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explain what that connection is and why it's important for
a sanguine is very difficult because there's a lot of
phobias and there's a lot of stereotypes, and generally the
general community views this is sanguineism as a form of cannibalism,
which is extremely taboo and no one wants to even
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think about it.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
You're not literally eating the person.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
No, God's no, God's no. And the fact is that
for most vampires, the amount of blood that's needed to
be sustained is extremely small. You can fill a thimble
with it.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I just take a shot of blood and you're good.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Yeah, it'll sustain you for about a week to a month,
depending on how much you are deficient.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
So would they have an iron deficiency, would that be
their deficiency.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
No, it's not the iron.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
It's the energy again.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
It's back to the energy, and it's how it's accessed.
Like I said, psychic vampires can just take the pure
energy as is. They could walk into a room and
pull off all the negative energy if they want, and
leave and everyone will be left feeling extremely happy. Or
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like I said earlier, someone doesn't know what they are.
They can walk in and just pull all the energy
out of the room and leave everyone feeling drained and down.
Tantric vampires they feed on sexual tension, not necessarily the intercourse.
It's the tension, it's the emotion, it's the intent, it's
the vibrations that get created during that moment. And for sanguines,
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the only way they can access that energy is through
the blood.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
So like energy drinks do nothing for you, right.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Uh, they make me jittery.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
It's just not the same kind.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Of energy like everyone else.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Yes, exactly. Like I said, we're human. We just we're
a little bit different. We're still human, we're just different.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
One of those Vampire Court things I was watching, it's
an MTV true life.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Yeah, I've seen it.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, Well there, the girl on there was convinced that
she was not a human, she was different than humans.
And that's why I was confused. And that's why I'm
glad that you're actually like breaking all this down for us.
That's why we came to you.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Well, here's the thing, and give me a moment so
I can word this correct. There are a great number
of people within the community who accept that we are human,
but we are different from human because of our deficiency.
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Some people take that in a literal sense and say
that we are not human or that we're better than human,
and the fact is we're not. If anything, were more
human than human. And that may sound odd or that's
the word I want here, egotistical, but it's not. We
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tend to feel things more deeply, we tend to be
affected by things more deeply, and we tend to avoid
confrontations that could cause anger, strife, or any kind of
dysfunction within our social unit because we're going to feel
all of that way more than anyone else. And if
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you have ever seen someone who gets upset easy or
cries at the drop of a hat, it's because they're
feeling everything that is going on around them, including what
everyone else is feeling. It's called empathy. And to a degree, yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Could keep going. I'm sorry, I tried to make it
funny in that.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
No, you're good, that was It's actually very funny. I've
made that same joke. Most of us are very empathic
and what we feel and how we feel it, so
we really try to avoid any kind of confrontration.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
That's gotta be the best way to do it thing,
because I'm sure there's everybody, like a lot of people
are just trying to get out there and attack you
for your beliefs and stuff, just like they would any
other belief.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
And I'm sure you've seen on TV the people who
want their fifteen minutes of fame, who are just they
are the lowest base of life, possibly because they don't
care who they're hurting, how they're hurting them, or what.
They just want their fifteen minutes of fame. All they
want is to be self served. And that's what they are.
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After most of the people who do that are not
part of our community. We don't know who they are,
no one has ever seen them anywhere, and then they
show up on these TV shows and they do more
harm to our community than they do good. Yeah, they're
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helping the rest of the world realize that, hey, we're
out here, but they're making us look horribly bad.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah, soo's a a is it like?
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Would you say it's like a hereditary like? Is it
passed down?
Speaker 6 (22:03):
That's a good question. There are a lot of studies
inside the community going on right now, both for health
reasons and things like that. As far as genealogies are concerned,
I've only met a few others who have actual family
members that are older than them who are also like
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parents or grandparents and things like that. So it's not
something that I could say yes to because I've only
met a few people who have claimed to be so.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
But it does happen.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
But it does happen, not usually though.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
It really is just the luck of the draw. When
you're born, you're either born a vampire or you're not one. There,
that is the bottom line, all right.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
You have your teeth shut teeth let Yeah, yeah, we're
trying to get to the bottom of all these stereotypes.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Yeah uh, not a teeth. Oh I have teeth, but
yeah I have.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
You got some shoppers in that not the canines you
see other vampires with. Most of those guys file theirs
down and it's.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Actually actually it's a cosmetic thing. That's it's like a
denture plate and pop it in and you.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Got So those people typically fake.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
No. Within the community, there are a lot of people
who feel that the best way to without having to
deal with people and explain to them all of this
that I'm explaining to you, because every time someone asks
the question, it usually leads into a anywhere from a
twenty minute to a two hour long discussion trying to
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explain themselves. So a lot of people they just get
the the arosthetic teeth and wear them when they go
out to certain functions just to have everyone know, hey,
this is who I am.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Now.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
There are people out there who wear them just to
get attention. I am not one of them, and I
know a lot of people out there in the community
who are.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Just like me.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
They won't touch them. It comes down again to people
who are looking for their fifteen minutes of fame. But
not everyone you see on TV is like that. The
Vampire Court in Austin, they are a bunch of good people.
They are actually trying to educate people, and they realize
that the only way they're going to get people's attention
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to hear them is to be a little more flamboyant
and draw attention to them. Because when they do, and
unlike the MTV special that they did, they actually get
a chance to do what I'm doing with you guys,
explain what's actually going on. They're just a little more
flaming boyant about it than I am.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
It's like they get people to completely go out of
their way to ask them the question, where you kind
of let us come to you.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yes, I gat attention so that people become curious and
then they can explain themselves.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Yes, because they live in that community and they have
to deal with the people in that community. The faster
they can get who they are out to the majority
of that community, the safer they'll be.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
See do I like do like mainstream like movies like
make you upset, like when you watch like a Fright Night.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Or like something like that. You're like god like there's
just more shit I have to deal with.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
I love a good I love a good movie. When
I first saw Fright Night, when it was first Relief released,
I laughed all the way through the original It was
fucking hilarious. Yeah. No, A lot of a lot of
us we enjoyed the movies. It doesn't We really don't
see anything wrong with the movies or anything like that.
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The TV shows, like the ones on UPN I want
nothing to do with them. They're They're a bunch of
tripe and garbage.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
What's your favorite mPire movie?
Speaker 6 (26:22):
That would have to be the addiction addiction?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
What do you think about Twilight? Are you team Jacob
or team No?
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Don't even God's damn okay, sorry, that movie is the
biggest piece of garbage to ever be produced. There is
nothing redeemable about that movie. Nothing, None of it sequels,
none of it. The books are garbage. It's all, Oh
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my god. Every time we see someone running around qing
vampire sparkle, VAMPI sparkle, I want to punch them in
the face.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
You have you watched them all? Or do you just
watch like fifty minutes like I'd rather?
Speaker 6 (27:04):
I've sat through. I've sat through two of them, and
that was more than I can deal with. I tried.
I tried really hard to find something redeemable about them,
but not even the actors' performances were acceptable.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I tried pretty hot.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Okay, do you think what are you talking about? Alex?
I think side on this one. I think it's crazy
right there.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I didn't didn't see either of them, any of the.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Movies because she's got hundreds of thousands dollars of makeup
on that they look that way.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Yeah. No, I try.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I try to, like after hearing about like everyone just
trashing these movies, like, I'm gonna sit down, I'm gonna
try to go and open mind like fifty minutes and
I'm like, all right, fuck this, there's no way I
can sit through all.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
This exactly, and those movies just yeah, I've yeah, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Our next myth what about garlic? Do you eat garlic
on your food?
Speaker 6 (28:15):
I love garlic.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
It's nothing to you.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
Unfortunately, it doesn't like me, and I am I am
unfortunate in that to have that really ridiculous stereotype.
Speaker 9 (28:31):
But be advised, be advised. A large propor proportion of
people of Scottish descent have an allergy to anything in
the own family, be it garlic, onions, chibes, et cetera.
I have that allergy.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Okay, where did the whole myth about it come from?
Is that what it was from?
Speaker 6 (28:53):
If myth means Hollywood movie magic, Okay, it's all Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Also, did you feel like the movie Blade was like
the vampires Jackie Robinson? Was he breaking the color barrier
for vampires everywhere?
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (29:08):
No?
Speaker 6 (29:10):
I didn't say that. I said, wow, the Blade movie
did a lot of good things for the movie industry.
Did it break barriers for did it break a race barrier? No?
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It did great things for Wesley Snipe's career. It did
great things for the movie industry. But there are a
lot of people of color who are vampire, and you
would be surprised at how many. They're all good people.
I count quite a few of them as friends. And
vampiism knows no race, it knows no heritage. It comes
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and goes from everyone.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Well, I answered, that, didn't it.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Let's let's let's step away from the whole movie bullshit.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Yeah. So, how many books have you written?
Speaker 6 (30:22):
I have written to date three books. On my first
in my vampire novel Incubus Succubis. The second is uh
Mayasm Tempest, which is a collection of short stories, and
the third is a short but concise children's book about
death called Everything Dies.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Brilliance.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Can you get all of those at Lulu?
Speaker 6 (30:47):
Yes? You can get all of those at Lulu from
just by searching for l A. Nance and nance is
spelled n A n t is, entango, z is and
zebra any relation to jim nance? No? Hm?
Speaker 4 (31:01):
What?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
How like do you describe like an average day? Like
are you are you just a full time author or
pretty much?
Speaker 6 (31:11):
I'm a full time author. My body decided to shut
down around ten years ago and I ended up on
Social Security disability. I am trying to get off of
that by doing the writing. It's just one of those
things that as a vampire, when you don't feed as
often as you should, your body rebels. It does not
(31:33):
like it. And I tried too fast for a while
and I got the short end of the stick.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Didn't work out so well.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
No, not well at all.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
So when you like, if you just hang out, you know, alone,
you can definitely fit. You feel more depleted than if
you're out and about, Like, do you ever just go
to a mall and like.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
You don't want to take other energies, right, that's what
you were telling.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Oh that's true, right right. Well, here's here's the curious
thing about us. We need to be around people to
stay healthy, but we generally tend to be loaners. We
prefer to be isolated. It's one of those conundrums that
we have to live with. We want to be alone
because we prefer being alone, but we have to be
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out and amongst the people if we want to survive.
Because you can't find donors if you're hiding in your room.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
So how necessarily would you find a donor? Would you
just like, hey, I need to borrow some energy from you.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
In some places you can actually do just that. There
are certain clubs and nightclubs and bars that the people
that go there are extremely open minded, and as long
as you're upfront and honest, some of them will actually say, yeah,
have fun. Otherwise you have to be incredibly careful about
(32:57):
how you go about doing it. There are people out
there with a condition called Renfield's disease. It's not called
them anymore, but it's the best way to explain it.
Where if they allow you to feed on them, they
will honestly believe that you turn them into a vampire,
and they can be dangerous. So you have to be
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on the lookout for people like that. You have to
be able to spot them and avoid them in a heartbeat.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
So it's like they would feel you taking energy from
them and then they'd go, well, I guess that makes
me one of them.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Some of them, some of them just need you to
give them time. You don't even have to feed on them.
Some of them are so eager to believe that they
are a vampire that all you have to do is
give them time.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Can vampires feed off of each other?
Speaker 6 (33:57):
It serves no purpose efficiency, Yes, it's it's like auto feeding.
It's another mental disability that involves someone cutting themselves and
drinking their own blood and thinking that they're a vampire.
Autumn feeding does absolutely no good to anyone. It's pointless,
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it's useless, it doesn't do anything.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
So okay, I'm trying to wrap my head around all
this I've learned.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Yeah, this completely just blow my mind, Like so what
I what I had written down to Like, Wow, it's
like there's just so.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Many varying stories you get when you look on the
internet about vampires, and there's so many things that you
don't believe, and then you're like, oh, well this one
said this and this site said the other thing.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
One of my biggest questions still about you said sanguine
is blood?
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Right, Yeah, sanguine is blood.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
How do you get that? Do you really bite or snow? Oh? God, nook?
Speaker 6 (35:04):
The human about is so fucking dirty? No. No, Usually
we prefer to draw it like you would at a
doctor's office with a needle.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
So you just teach yourself how to like draw people's blood.
You can do you go to like a blood bank.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
That's a touchy question that I would like to shy
away from because there are vampires in all walks of life,
from the lowest person down all the way up to
the highest person. And there are people who really like
to keep their night side separate from their day side.
(35:49):
And that's what we refer to it as the mask
we wear when we're in public as our day side
and our night side is who we really are, and
a lot of people like to keep that separate. Feeding
practices are extremely personal and private. I can't imagine you'd
want to go out and tell anyone just exactly. Blowblinde
(36:13):
blow how you had intercourse with your significant other.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I tell people that every day.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
That's a facet the average person.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Friend, it's a personal thing, and we do what we
have to do, but we make sure that we do
it safely and cleanly, so no one gets sick, gets
infections or anything like that. We're very careful about it.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
So everybody's tested.
Speaker 6 (36:44):
Yes, God's yes. It's a requirement. If you're going to
be a donor, you've got to be tested. You can
look this up. It's called the Donor Bill of Rights.
It exists out there, and it's something that a lot
of us use as a guideline when dealing with donors.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Can you uh, can you like can vampires like when
you see someone you know that they are like?
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Can they?
Speaker 3 (37:13):
People hide it so well that you can't tell, Like
can you self identify or identify others?
Speaker 6 (37:24):
Yes? And no. Uh. I'm gonna say yes to that
because I have been extremely successful in identifying others without
them saying anything and catching them later on and confronting
them on it. Not so much as in an aggressive way.
But hey, it's nice to meet you. I think we
(37:44):
have something in common. Wink wink, nudge, nudge. Yeah, you
know it, because, like I said, keeping our day sides
in our night side separate is a really big deal.
I do not build that wall between them myself. I'm
fairly open about it, but a lot of people do
(38:05):
because society really frowns on the idea of someone identifying
as a vampire. Now I've known people who have lost
their jobs, lost their homes, a few people have even
had their children taken away from them. It's society frowns
(38:25):
on what we are so much that we have to
keep what we are secret for the most part, and
it's really stressful and it takes a lot. It takes
an incredible toll on our self esteem, on our self control.
(38:45):
It just breaks us down to the point where hiding
really is the best option we have.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
There's not really a lot of laws, like there's laws
of inspiring someone over their sexualism or like the color
their skin. There's nothing really been like, oh, well we
fired him because he's a vampire, and that we could
probably say that nobody would believe it.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
I think it's because people are just uplicated.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
Is Yes, there is a lot of misconception about what
we are. We're not the TV, Hollywood movie idiots and
monsters that are portrayed in films and sitcoms, et cetera,
or real people. We live real lives. We have real
world problems. We have to worry about our bills. We
have to worry about our children, we have to worry
(39:29):
about our family members, we have to worry about our cars,
having enough money for gas. It's everything that everyone else
deals with. With the added weight of having this deficiency
and knowing how society looks at us, It's it's an
extreme burden. Being a vampire is not something I would
(39:49):
ever wish on anyone. The bottom line is, it sucks.
It fucking sucks. There's nothing glorious or wondrous or romantic
about being a vampire. It's a hard life, but we
can't change what we are. And if we run from it,
(40:12):
if we run from it, if we try to ignore
or try to deny it, it breaks us down even more.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
One other thing I've always wanted is like relationships. Wise,
do vampires only date vampires or is it it's not
taboo today? Another? Okay, there's got to be some problems
in those relationships. Wudn't you think.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
I guess there can be problems if you're not honest
with your significant other, try to hide what you are
and have a donor on the side. They're not going
to understand when they catch you, they're going to consider
it feet. They're going to consider it cheating instead of,
you know, taking care of what you need to take
care of. So a lot of people they will date
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outside of the community and they'll be honest with their
significant others and use them as donors.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
So that's a pretty solid little donor set up too.
If you've got yes it is, it's also your significant other.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
Yes, you can bang someone too, because.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Get it in There.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Are the.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
Oh my god, yeah that that that was a locomotive
off cliff right there.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Are there are there like hybrid vampires that are part
like sanguine and energy.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
It's yeah, yeah, yeah, it is possible. Some people will
be able to do more than one way of feeding,
but they'll claim their primary as what they are. But
most people try to avoid the stereotypes or the titles.
Most people just want to be who they are, and
(42:07):
getting labeled within the community is by the community is
It's pretty rough because once you stick a label on someone,
people who refuse to educate themselves on the other types
of empirism tend to be rather caddy.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
I can see that.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I can see that.
Speaker 6 (42:38):
It's an unfortunate thing. Like I said, sometimes we're more
human human we can be harder on ourselves than the
rest of society can be.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
The son the sun? What's the deal with the sun
in vampires?
Speaker 6 (42:54):
That's another That is another Hollywood stereotype that unfortunately we
almost to hit the mark, really almost almost see that.
Just you ever walk out into the sun and feel
like you're being burned alive? Yes, okay, a lot of
(43:17):
us have a sensitivity to the sun. For us, it
feels like being burned alive with red hot needles jammed
into every centimeter of our body all at once. No,
it's not.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Yeah, I would not do that thing that made me
feel that way.
Speaker 6 (43:37):
I've actually been put in the hospital from sun poisoning
more than once. When I was seventeen, I died of
a sunstroke. So for me, getting out into the sun
is not a good thing.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
You died of a sunstroke.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
Yes, they brought you back. Yes?
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Nice? Wait how they bring you back?
Speaker 6 (43:58):
Uh, paramedic show it up in time clamps. I'm really
not sure. I was not.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Asking you, hey, when you were dead, did you like
have an outer body experience and notice all what's happened?
Speaker 6 (44:14):
I did have an out body. I saw the tunnel,
I saw the white light coming back. Coming back felt
like trying to shove an elephant through a hole about
the size of an inch quarter. It's really it was
not fun.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
What other crate? What other that cool stuff like that?
I mean, I guess that's not cool, but like it's not.
Speaker 6 (44:38):
You made your friend his face.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
I'm embarrassed for him. Alright, that's all.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Right, Yeah, I guess Why don't we end this saything?
Do you have something to ask?
Speaker 3 (44:57):
I'm good, I'm just going Do you have anything else
that you want to clarify or you know, talk about?
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah? What else do you think what the public should learn?
Speaker 6 (45:07):
I think I've covered all the bases, you know. The
The last thing I'd like to leave you guys with is,
if you find out someone is a vampire, don't ask
them all kinds of questions because they've heard them all before.
I know that you want to know. And if you say, hey,
can I ask you some questions and they say yeah,
(45:28):
go ahead, be respectful with those questions because we have
been given such a hard time for so long that
generally when we're approached like that, we roll our eyes
and go, oh my god, here it comes, and we
brace for it. So be respectful to the people. Don't
give them a hard time. And if you find out
(45:48):
someone is an empire and you see someone giving them
a hard time, stand up for them. Let them know
that they're not alone anymore. Because that's the biggest problem
we have is we get so much grief for being
what we are. It makes us want to hide from everyone,
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and it's an unpleasant, unwelcome feeling because we can't help
who we are. This is what we are. We're born
this way. We didn't choose this. So if you find
out someone is, be nice to them. That's that's the
last thing.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Outsider.
Speaker 6 (46:28):
Yeah, quite literally, I.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
Learned much today.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
No, honestly, honestly, we had no idea what to coming.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
What we had seen on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
And everything, some of the vampires I talked to her
talking down to people, and we were like, I don't
know if this guy is gonna believe us. I don't
know how he's gonna be. And you were badass the
whole time.
Speaker 6 (46:49):
Like, thank you, thank you so much for coming on
talking to us man, just being honest. Man, have a
good day.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
We appreciate it. Take it easy man.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
You everything you want to plug? There we go.
Speaker 6 (47:01):
Oh uh well, ye go to Lulu dot com and
look for l Enance dot com help support a starving artist,
and everything's good.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
There we go.
Speaker 6 (47:16):
All right, guys, be well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Thanks man. Past the gravy bitches, Bravy.
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What's up, gang, It's Alex the moon Dog.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You know here, boy. We recorded an entire really really
fun episode to Pass the Gravy today, me, myself, Pat
and Harley, and for some reason there were some technical
difficulties that made it where that video and audio just disappeared.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I don't know how it happened.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I don't know why it happened. Hopefully, by by some miracle,
we could sort of salvage it, and if we will,
we can. I will post that, but we couldn't. I
left the station today, that's the studio to day without
any audio or video from today. We did prep I did.
We had all kinds of awesome stuff for you. I
(00:45):
thought it was great. And the episode is gonna be
called Dry Sleep.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
The episode's gonna be called Dry Sleep.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And yeah, I wish I could be giving you that
right now instead of this, but because I cannot, I
found a really really old episode of one time in
the very beginning of Past the Gravy. And these are
the bad days of PASTI Gravy. I'm not saying they're
good now, but I'm just saying they were bad then
quality wise. So this is kind of very on brand
with us having a new episode from today. This is
(01:18):
the time that myself and Curtis the Godfather Chaffin interviewed
a vampire and it's just kind of my default, like,
oh shit, something fucked up.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Here's this for you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
So the video is probably gonna be pretty boring because
this is it.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
This is just me doing the video of the audio.
It's fine, you guys are gonna love it.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
It'll be a little dated because it was like twenty fifteen,
but this is me and Curtis Chafin's interview with a
vampire from back in the day. Please don't stop listening
to the podcast, Please still subscribe and all that stuff.
I apologize again, and hopefully we'll be back and at
full strength with an actual podcast that's new next week.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Love you guys.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
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We'll go and fishing for your bitch today with Junkie Houston.
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Speaker 1 (02:25):
Nich bitch, you've got past the gravy. And for the
first time ever, we actually got a vampire to come
on the show. Today, we are joined by Vodolock.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
How's it going today, buddy, It's going pretty good. It's
been an interesting week already, but I'm looking forward to this.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, we've been looking forward to it since we spoke
on email at first about a week ago. But let's
get right into it. Where do vampires come from?
Speaker 6 (02:59):
Uh, that's a good question. A lot of people out
there like to say that vampires can be made, or
that they're awakened by a sire. Unfortunately, this isn't true.
We're born the way we are and if you're not
born one, you're not one. You're never going to be one.
(03:19):
That's the flat out bottom line.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So how do you know you're born one?
Speaker 6 (03:27):
People usually start realizing that there's something different about them
between the ages of seven and fourteen, pre puberty. It
starts very early for a lot of us. It's it's
being able to feel other people's energy, being able to
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sense when someone is upset. There's a lot of empathy involved,
and we tend to be and we're sickly as children growing.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Up, so you get sick or more often.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Yes, there's a lot of discussion out there regarding why
we are the way we are, and some people like
to say that we're something else, but we're not. We're
just human and we have an energy deficiency. And there
(04:29):
are a lot of people who want to dismiss even that.
And the problem with that is is that there are
a large handful of physical disorders, disabilities, illnesses that we
share in common, and the number of those is far
too great to just be coincidence. So when we start
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realizing at a younger age that we're not like everyone
else and we're having problems doing things that everyone else
should be able to do and can do, you know,
you know how kids are. They can be cruel. They
spot things and the moment someone stands out, they isolate you.
And that's something we have to learn to deal with
(05:15):
right off the bat.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
So, so like did you get do you go to
a doctor to be diagnosed or do you it's kind
of a self diagnosis.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
It's a it's a moment of self awareness. It's like
when someone realizes that even though they've been raised to
be Christian, they're actually Buddhist, or they're actually Hindi or Muslim.
It's a moment of self awareness where you realize everything
that you've been taught should be right, isn't right, and
(05:45):
the only thing that makes sense is what feels right.
There are people out there walking around who are energy
vampires and have no idea because they refuse to accept
the simple truth that they're not producing a certain type
of energy in their body and the only way to
get it is from other people. And I'm sure both
(06:06):
of you have been in a room where someone has
walked in and the life just dropped out of the
room for no reason. That's interesting, and typically that is
an energy vampire who doesn't know what they are walking
into a crowd miserable and suddenly they're feeling a lot
better than everyone else is miserable.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Okay, so just for everyone else's energy vampires like someone
who like kind of takes in, feeds off everyone else's energy,
and kind of sucks out of the room.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
To say, oh, Generally, when that happens, they're not aware
of what they are. Actual self aware energy vampires are
very cautious and very careful about what they do and
how they do it. One of the rules within the
community is never take without being freely given.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Never.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
It's a big no no, and it can get people
in a lot of trouble for doing.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It, like legal trouble.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
Uh, depending on what they do. Yeah, if someone is
really stupid and doesn't try to educate themselves, but what
they are and does something incredibly stupid, yeah they can
get in trouble with the law. But for the most part,
we go out of our way to make sure that
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we don't do anything wrong. I'm sure you've seen on
TV people being accused of being vampires doing horrific things.
They're not part of our community, none of them are.
And whenever the media starts throwing around the word vampire,
it makes every one of us cringe and just brace
for impact because we know it's coming and it's an
(07:54):
unfortunate thing that we have to deal with.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So there's a bunch of this like you wouldn't consider
the vampires.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Then, No, not even a little bit.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
It's like someone who just watched like a vampire type
genre movie and just like, oh, I want to do that,
and they just go out and make a menace of themselves.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
Exactly exactly. There are stupid people everywhere, and they are
weak minded people everywhere who are easily influenced, and you
will find that the majority of actual vampires are very intelligent,
very strong willed, and very very much aware of their
surroundings and who's around them.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
When when I was doing some research, I realized there's
vamp what are called vampire courts, and I guess it's
not like an association of vampires.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Yeah, the courts, good lord, I am not part of court.
I am not officially part of any house. It is
an association of like minded vampires who come together to
have a social community in which they can step out
(09:11):
of the shadows and be free with who they are
with others like themselves. Unfortunately, the courts, they like to
set themselves up in ways that have people kissing rings
and bowing down and kissing ass which a lot of
us just want no part of because seriously, who wants
to be a ring kisser and not have any kind
(09:34):
of say in what goes on in their community?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
That's what like, that's what When I was watching the
videos of that, they were the weird kind of like
vampires like, hey, look at me, I'm a vampire. I'm
gonna go out in public and do this, and well,
talking to you, you don't seem like you just flaunting
around all the time.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
No, I don't. I don't hide it either. I'm actually
fairly public about what I am. I'm a published author,
like I explain and earlier, and my pen name is
La Nance. You can find me on lulud dot com.
I do not make any secret about my being a
(10:11):
vampire to anyone. If anyone asks, I tell them the truth.
I'm honest about it. On Halloween, yeah, I'll dress up.
It's fun.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Everybody likes a Halloween.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
No, I'm usually homicidalmaniac. They look like everyone else. Thank you,
Wednesday Adams. Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Have you ever been a part of a court and
you're just like, what am I doing?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Like?
Speaker 4 (10:39):
What are these people?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Never?
Speaker 7 (10:42):
I about twenty years ago, I tried to be really
involved in the community, and I tried to find a
house or court to get involved with, and there was
a level of arrogance at the time that was just
The Republican Party has nothing on arrogance in consideration to
(11:05):
the way the courts were twenty years ago.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
They have no competition there with the arrogance none. It
was so bad that I found myself going, you know what,
you're a bunch of assholes. I want nothing to do
with you, and went and did my own thing. The
last four to five years, I've become more active within
the community again, and ninety nine percent of that arrogance
(11:30):
is gone now. A lot of the old court systems
are gone. There are a few places that still hold
on to them. But they realized that they could not
keep doing business the way they were, and they loosened
things up. They became more understanding and less strict and
ass wholish about the way they do things.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And the way you were describing them earlier just made
it seem like they were a vampire fraternity. Yeah, back
fans and shit back.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
They they kind of were, and it was it was
really sad. It's like when I was thirteen, I spent
some time growing up in Mississippi. I've moved all over
the place as it could, and I went to this
one Baptist church and hung out with the guys there,
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and they were all baptized and good Christians, and they
did everything they were supposed to do. But the moment
they stepped off church property, they went they immediately grabbed
their beers. They're swearing and everything that the Baptist Church
is against and just went on their merry way. And
they would put it all away on Sunday and pretend
(12:42):
to be these nice people again. And that's the way
the old courts were. When they weren't being publicly viewed,
they were a bunch of assholes. But when they were
publicly viewed, they put on their pretty faces and they
wore their pretty mask and they tried come off as
being regal and noble, and they weren't.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
They were politicians.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Yes, like I said, the Republican Party has nothing on
the arrogance of the vampire courts of twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I could also see how like people they can act
out because they're around a group.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Of people that they there's not.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
It's a small group of people, and they're like finally,
you know, hanging out and socializing with people that are
like them, and that that would give you know, that
would give anyone, you know, some confidence, and people may
do some crazy things. I can kind of see where
they would be as wholish and whatever.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Well, there is a social hierarchy in any community, any community,
or a social activity that is established with any human society.
Anytime you get more than five people together, a social
hierarchy is going to be established. Decent people will not
take advantage of that. Intelligent people will not take advantage
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of that. It's people who have low self esteem and
are have no self confidence that take advantage of those
social orders and that social hierarchy and try to push
themselves further and higher into it.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
All right, you're an energy vampire.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Right, this is my first one. Well, I've done some
I've done some written interviews within the community, but this
is my first interview outside of the community.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Okay, but you're you're you would consider yourself an energy vampire, correct?
All right? There, when I would doing research, there was
I think sex and blood were other types of vampires.
Are those valid, like recognized types of vampires.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Or there is there is sanguine vampism and there is
tantric vampism. Both are very valid. What you need to
understand is that vampires do have a deficiency. Now, on
the page you showed me, they were saying that that
only showed up after the movie Life Force in nineteen
eighty five. That's not true. The movie Life Force, they
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had access to someone who knew something about the community
and they wrote that in the idea that we have
a deficiency has been around for a very long time.
It's one of those simple realities of being a vampire.
It's one of those things that you realize early on
in childhood. The psychic vampires, they feed primarily on prana,
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on energy. Sexual vampires feed on that energy, but the
only way they can access it is through sexual tension.
It doesn't necessarily have to be intercourse. It can be
through flirting, it can be through any activity that can
lead to sexual tension. As long as that energy builds,
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they have something to feed on. Sanguine vampires, the way
they access that that energy is through blood. And there
are those in the community who say that's not necessary,
but most of them are not sanguine and don't understand
just how important that connection is. And to try and
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explain what that connection is and why it's important for
a sanguine is very difficult because there's a lot of
phobias and there's a lot of stereotypes, and generally the
general community views this is sanguineism as a form of cannibalism,
which is extremely taboo and no one wants to even
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think about it.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
You're not literally eating the person.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
No, God's no, God's no. And the fact is that
for most vampires, the amount of blood that's needed to
be sustained is extremely small. You can fill a thimble
with it.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I just take a shot of blood and you're good.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Yeah, it'll sustain you for about a week to a month,
depending on how much you are deficient.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
So would they have an iron deficiency, would that be
their deficiency.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
No, it's not the iron.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
It's the energy again.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
It's back to the energy, and it's how it's accessed.
Like I said, psychic vampires can just take the pure
energy as is. They could walk into a room and
pull off all the negative energy if they want, and
leave and everyone will be left feeling extremely happy. Or
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like I said earlier, someone doesn't know what they are.
They can walk in and just pull all the energy
out of the room and leave everyone feeling drained and down.
Tantric vampires they feed on sexual tension, not necessarily the intercourse.
It's the tension, it's the emotion, it's the intent, it's
the vibrations that get created during that moment. And for sanguines,
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the only way they can access that energy is through
the blood.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
So like energy drinks do nothing for you, right.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Uh, they make me jittery.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
It's just not the same kind.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Of energy like everyone else.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Yes, exactly. Like I said, we're human. We just we're
a little bit different. We're still human, we're just different.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
One of those Vampire Court things I was watching, it's
an MTV true life.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Yeah, I've seen it.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, Well there, the girl on there was convinced that
she was not a human, she was different than humans.
And that's why I was confused. And that's why I'm
glad that you're actually like breaking all this down for us.
That's why we came to you.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Well, here's the thing, and give me a moment so
I can word this correct. There are a great number
of people within the community who accept that we are human,
but we are different from human because of our deficiency.
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Some people take that in a literal sense and say
that we are not human or that we're better than human,
and the fact is we're not. If anything, were more
human than human. And that may sound odd or that's
the word I want here, egotistical, but it's not. We
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tend to feel things more deeply, we tend to be
affected by things more deeply, and we tend to avoid
confrontations that could cause anger, strife, or any kind of
dysfunction within our social unit because we're going to feel
all of that way more than anyone else. And if
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you have ever seen someone who gets upset easy or
cries at the drop of a hat, it's because they're
feeling everything that is going on around them, including what
everyone else is feeling. It's called empathy. And to a degree, yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Could keep going. I'm sorry, I tried to make it
funny in that.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
No, you're good, that was It's actually very funny. I've
made that same joke. Most of us are very empathic
and what we feel and how we feel it, so
we really try to avoid any kind of confrontration.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
That's gotta be the best way to do it thing,
because I'm sure there's everybody, like a lot of people
are just trying to get out there and attack you
for your beliefs and stuff, just like they would any
other belief.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
And I'm sure you've seen on TV the people who
want their fifteen minutes of fame, who are just they
are the lowest base of life, possibly because they don't
care who they're hurting, how they're hurting them, or what.
They just want their fifteen minutes of fame. All they
want is to be self served. And that's what they are.
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After most of the people who do that are not
part of our community. We don't know who they are,
no one has ever seen them anywhere, and then they
show up on these TV shows and they do more
harm to our community than they do good. Yeah, they're
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helping the rest of the world realize that, hey, we're
out here, but they're making us look horribly bad.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah, soo's a a is it like?
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Would you say it's like a hereditary like? Is it
passed down?
Speaker 6 (22:03):
That's a good question. There are a lot of studies
inside the community going on right now, both for health
reasons and things like that. As far as genealogies are concerned,
I've only met a few others who have actual family
members that are older than them who are also like
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parents or grandparents and things like that. So it's not
something that I could say yes to because I've only
met a few people who have claimed to be so.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
But it does happen.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
But it does happen, not usually though.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
It really is just the luck of the draw. When
you're born, you're either born a vampire or you're not one. There,
that is the bottom line, all right.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
You have your teeth shut teeth let Yeah, yeah, we're
trying to get to the bottom of all these stereotypes.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Yeah uh, not a teeth. Oh I have teeth, but
yeah I have.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
You got some shoppers in that not the canines you
see other vampires with. Most of those guys file theirs
down and it's.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Actually actually it's a cosmetic thing. That's it's like a
denture plate and pop it in and you.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Got So those people typically fake.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
No. Within the community, there are a lot of people
who feel that the best way to without having to
deal with people and explain to them all of this
that I'm explaining to you, because every time someone asks
the question, it usually leads into a anywhere from a
twenty minute to a two hour long discussion trying to
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explain themselves. So a lot of people they just get
the the arosthetic teeth and wear them when they go
out to certain functions just to have everyone know, hey,
this is who I am.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Now.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
There are people out there who wear them just to
get attention. I am not one of them, and I
know a lot of people out there in the community
who are.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Just like me.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
They won't touch them. It comes down again to people
who are looking for their fifteen minutes of fame. But
not everyone you see on TV is like that. The
Vampire Court in Austin, they are a bunch of good people.
They are actually trying to educate people, and they realize
that the only way they're going to get people's attention
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to hear them is to be a little more flamboyant
and draw attention to them. Because when they do, and
unlike the MTV special that they did, they actually get
a chance to do what I'm doing with you guys,
explain what's actually going on. They're just a little more
flaming boyant about it than I am.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
It's like they get people to completely go out of
their way to ask them the question, where you kind
of let us come to you.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yes, I gat attention so that people become curious and
then they can explain themselves.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Yes, because they live in that community and they have
to deal with the people in that community. The faster
they can get who they are out to the majority
of that community, the safer they'll be.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
See do I like do like mainstream like movies like
make you upset, like when you watch like a Fright Night.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Or like something like that. You're like god like there's
just more shit I have to deal with.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
I love a good I love a good movie. When
I first saw Fright Night, when it was first Relief released,
I laughed all the way through the original It was
fucking hilarious. Yeah. No, A lot of a lot of
us we enjoyed the movies. It doesn't We really don't
see anything wrong with the movies or anything like that.
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The TV shows, like the ones on UPN I want
nothing to do with them. They're They're a bunch of
tripe and garbage.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
What's your favorite mPire movie?
Speaker 6 (26:22):
That would have to be the addiction addiction?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
What do you think about Twilight? Are you team Jacob
or team No?
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Don't even God's damn okay, sorry, that movie is the
biggest piece of garbage to ever be produced. There is
nothing redeemable about that movie. Nothing, None of it sequels,
none of it. The books are garbage. It's all, Oh
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my god. Every time we see someone running around qing
vampire sparkle, VAMPI sparkle, I want to punch them in
the face.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
You have you watched them all? Or do you just
watch like fifty minutes like I'd rather?
Speaker 6 (27:04):
I've sat through. I've sat through two of them, and
that was more than I can deal with. I tried.
I tried really hard to find something redeemable about them,
but not even the actors' performances were acceptable.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I tried pretty hot.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Okay, do you think what are you talking about? Alex?
I think side on this one. I think it's crazy
right there.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I didn't didn't see either of them, any of the.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Movies because she's got hundreds of thousands dollars of makeup
on that they look that way.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Yeah. No, I try.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I try to, like after hearing about like everyone just
trashing these movies, like, I'm gonna sit down, I'm gonna
try to go and open mind like fifty minutes and
I'm like, all right, fuck this, there's no way I
can sit through all.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
This exactly, and those movies just yeah, I've yeah, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Our next myth what about garlic? Do you eat garlic
on your food?
Speaker 6 (28:15):
I love garlic.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
It's nothing to you.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
Unfortunately, it doesn't like me, and I am I am
unfortunate in that to have that really ridiculous stereotype.
Speaker 9 (28:31):
But be advised, be advised. A large propor proportion of
people of Scottish descent have an allergy to anything in
the own family, be it garlic, onions, chibes, et cetera.
I have that allergy.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Okay, where did the whole myth about it come from?
Is that what it was from?
Speaker 6 (28:53):
If myth means Hollywood movie magic, Okay, it's all Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Also, did you feel like the movie Blade was like
the vampires Jackie Robinson? Was he breaking the color barrier
for vampires everywhere?
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (29:08):
No?
Speaker 6 (29:10):
I didn't say that. I said, wow, the Blade movie
did a lot of good things for the movie industry.
Did it break barriers for did it break a race barrier? No?
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It did great things for Wesley Snipe's career. It did
great things for the movie industry. But there are a
lot of people of color who are vampire, and you
would be surprised at how many. They're all good people.
I count quite a few of them as friends. And
vampiism knows no race, it knows no heritage. It comes
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and goes from everyone.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Well, I answered, that, didn't it.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Let's let's let's step away from the whole movie bullshit.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Yeah. So, how many books have you written?
Speaker 6 (30:22):
I have written to date three books. On my first
in my vampire novel Incubus Succubis. The second is uh
Mayasm Tempest, which is a collection of short stories, and
the third is a short but concise children's book about
death called Everything Dies.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Brilliance.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Can you get all of those at Lulu?
Speaker 6 (30:47):
Yes? You can get all of those at Lulu from
just by searching for l A. Nance and nance is
spelled n A n t is, entango, z is and
zebra any relation to jim nance? No? Hm?
Speaker 4 (31:01):
What?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
How like do you describe like an average day? Like
are you are you just a full time author or
pretty much?
Speaker 6 (31:11):
I'm a full time author. My body decided to shut
down around ten years ago and I ended up on
Social Security disability. I am trying to get off of
that by doing the writing. It's just one of those
things that as a vampire, when you don't feed as
often as you should, your body rebels. It does not
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like it. And I tried too fast for a while
and I got the short end of the stick.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Didn't work out so well.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
No, not well at all.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
So when you like, if you just hang out, you know, alone,
you can definitely fit. You feel more depleted than if
you're out and about, Like, do you ever just go
to a mall and like.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
You don't want to take other energies, right, that's what
you were telling.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Oh that's true, right right. Well, here's here's the curious
thing about us. We need to be around people to
stay healthy, but we generally tend to be loaners. We
prefer to be isolated. It's one of those conundrums that
we have to live with. We want to be alone
because we prefer being alone, but we have to be
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out and amongst the people if we want to survive.
Because you can't find donors if you're hiding in your room.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
So how necessarily would you find a donor? Would you
just like, hey, I need to borrow some energy from you.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
In some places you can actually do just that. There
are certain clubs and nightclubs and bars that the people
that go there are extremely open minded, and as long
as you're upfront and honest, some of them will actually say, yeah,
have fun. Otherwise you have to be incredibly careful about
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how you go about doing it. There are people out
there with a condition called Renfield's disease. It's not called
them anymore, but it's the best way to explain it.
Where if they allow you to feed on them, they
will honestly believe that you turn them into a vampire,
and they can be dangerous. So you have to be
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on the lookout for people like that. You have to
be able to spot them and avoid them in a heartbeat.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
So it's like they would feel you taking energy from
them and then they'd go, well, I guess that makes
me one of them.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Some of them, some of them just need you to
give them time. You don't even have to feed on them.
Some of them are so eager to believe that they
are a vampire that all you have to do is
give them time.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Can vampires feed off of each other?
Speaker 6 (33:57):
It serves no purpose efficiency, Yes, it's it's like auto feeding.
It's another mental disability that involves someone cutting themselves and
drinking their own blood and thinking that they're a vampire.
Autumn feeding does absolutely no good to anyone. It's pointless,
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it's useless, it doesn't do anything.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
So okay, I'm trying to wrap my head around all
this I've learned.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Yeah, this completely just blow my mind, Like so what
I what I had written down to Like, Wow, it's
like there's just so.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Many varying stories you get when you look on the
internet about vampires, and there's so many things that you
don't believe, and then you're like, oh, well this one
said this and this site said the other thing.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
One of my biggest questions still about you said sanguine
is blood?
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Right, Yeah, sanguine is blood.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
How do you get that? Do you really bite or snow? Oh? God, nook?
Speaker 6 (35:04):
The human about is so fucking dirty? No. No, Usually
we prefer to draw it like you would at a
doctor's office with a needle.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
So you just teach yourself how to like draw people's blood.
You can do you go to like a blood bank.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
That's a touchy question that I would like to shy
away from because there are vampires in all walks of life,
from the lowest person down all the way up to
the highest person. And there are people who really like
to keep their night side separate from their day side.
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And that's what we refer to it as the mask
we wear when we're in public as our day side
and our night side is who we really are, and
a lot of people like to keep that separate. Feeding
practices are extremely personal and private. I can't imagine you'd
want to go out and tell anyone just exactly. Blowblinde
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blow how you had intercourse with your significant other.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I tell people that every day.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
That's a facet the average person.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Friend, it's a personal thing, and we do what we
have to do, but we make sure that we do
it safely and cleanly, so no one gets sick, gets
infections or anything like that. We're very careful about it.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
So everybody's tested.
Speaker 6 (36:44):
Yes, God's yes. It's a requirement. If you're going to
be a donor, you've got to be tested. You can
look this up. It's called the Donor Bill of Rights.
It exists out there, and it's something that a lot
of us use as a guideline when dealing with donors.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Can you uh, can you like can vampires like when
you see someone you know that they are like?
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Can they?
Speaker 3 (37:13):
People hide it so well that you can't tell, Like
can you self identify or identify others?
Speaker 6 (37:24):
Yes? And no. Uh. I'm gonna say yes to that
because I have been extremely successful in identifying others without
them saying anything and catching them later on and confronting
them on it. Not so much as in an aggressive way.
But hey, it's nice to meet you. I think we
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have something in common. Wink wink, nudge, nudge. Yeah, you
know it, because, like I said, keeping our day sides
in our night side separate is a really big deal.
I do not build that wall between them myself. I'm
fairly open about it, but a lot of people do
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because society really frowns on the idea of someone identifying
as a vampire. Now I've known people who have lost
their jobs, lost their homes, a few people have even
had their children taken away from them. It's society frowns
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on what we are so much that we have to
keep what we are secret for the most part, and
it's really stressful and it takes a lot. It takes
an incredible toll on our self esteem, on our self control.
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It just breaks us down to the point where hiding
really is the best option we have.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
There's not really a lot of laws, like there's laws
of inspiring someone over their sexualism or like the color
their skin. There's nothing really been like, oh, well we
fired him because he's a vampire, and that we could
probably say that nobody would believe it.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
I think it's because people are just uplicated.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
Is Yes, there is a lot of misconception about what
we are. We're not the TV, Hollywood movie idiots and
monsters that are portrayed in films and sitcoms, et cetera,
or real people. We live real lives. We have real
world problems. We have to worry about our bills. We
have to worry about our children, we have to worry
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about our family members, we have to worry about our cars,
having enough money for gas. It's everything that everyone else
deals with. With the added weight of having this deficiency
and knowing how society looks at us, It's it's an
extreme burden. Being a vampire is not something I would
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ever wish on anyone. The bottom line is, it sucks.
It fucking sucks. There's nothing glorious or wondrous or romantic
about being a vampire. It's a hard life, but we
can't change what we are. And if we run from it,
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if we run from it, if we try to ignore
or try to deny it, it breaks us down even more.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
One other thing I've always wanted is like relationships. Wise,
do vampires only date vampires or is it it's not
taboo today? Another? Okay, there's got to be some problems
in those relationships. Wudn't you think.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
I guess there can be problems if you're not honest
with your significant other, try to hide what you are
and have a donor on the side. They're not going
to understand when they catch you, they're going to consider
it feet. They're going to consider it cheating instead of,
you know, taking care of what you need to take
care of. So a lot of people they will date
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outside of the community and they'll be honest with their
significant others and use them as donors.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
So that's a pretty solid little donor set up too.
If you've got yes it is, it's also your significant other.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
Yes, you can bang someone too, because.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Get it in There.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Are the.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
Oh my god, yeah that that that was a locomotive
off cliff right there.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Are there are there like hybrid vampires that are part
like sanguine and energy.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
It's yeah, yeah, yeah, it is possible. Some people will
be able to do more than one way of feeding,
but they'll claim their primary as what they are. But
most people try to avoid the stereotypes or the titles.
Most people just want to be who they are, and
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getting labeled within the community is by the community is
It's pretty rough because once you stick a label on someone,
people who refuse to educate themselves on the other types
of empirism tend to be rather caddy.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
I can see that.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I can see that.
Speaker 6 (42:38):
It's an unfortunate thing. Like I said, sometimes we're more
human human we can be harder on ourselves than the
rest of society can be.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
The son the sun? What's the deal with the sun
in vampires?
Speaker 6 (42:54):
That's another That is another Hollywood stereotype that unfortunately we
almost to hit the mark, really almost almost see that.
Just you ever walk out into the sun and feel
like you're being burned alive? Yes, okay, a lot of
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us have a sensitivity to the sun. For us, it
feels like being burned alive with red hot needles jammed
into every centimeter of our body all at once. No,
it's not.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Yeah, I would not do that thing that made me
feel that way.
Speaker 6 (43:37):
I've actually been put in the hospital from sun poisoning
more than once. When I was seventeen, I died of
a sunstroke. So for me, getting out into the sun
is not a good thing.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
You died of a sunstroke.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
Yes, they brought you back. Yes?
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Nice? Wait how they bring you back?
Speaker 6 (43:58):
Uh, paramedic show it up in time clamps. I'm really
not sure. I was not.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Asking you, hey, when you were dead, did you like
have an outer body experience and notice all what's happened?
Speaker 6 (44:14):
I did have an out body. I saw the tunnel,
I saw the white light coming back. Coming back felt
like trying to shove an elephant through a hole about
the size of an inch quarter. It's really it was
not fun.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
What other crate? What other that cool stuff like that?
I mean, I guess that's not cool, but like it's not.
Speaker 6 (44:38):
You made your friend his face.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
I'm embarrassed for him. Alright, that's all.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Right, Yeah, I guess Why don't we end this saything?
Do you have something to ask?
Speaker 3 (44:57):
I'm good, I'm just going Do you have anything else
that you want to clarify or you know, talk about?
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah? What else do you think what the public should learn?
Speaker 6 (45:07):
I think I've covered all the bases, you know. The
The last thing I'd like to leave you guys with is,
if you find out someone is a vampire, don't ask
them all kinds of questions because they've heard them all before.
I know that you want to know. And if you say, hey,
can I ask you some questions and they say yeah,
(45:28):
go ahead, be respectful with those questions because we have
been given such a hard time for so long that
generally when we're approached like that, we roll our eyes
and go, oh my god, here it comes, and we
brace for it. So be respectful to the people. Don't
give them a hard time. And if you find out
(45:48):
someone is an empire and you see someone giving them
a hard time, stand up for them. Let them know
that they're not alone anymore. Because that's the biggest problem
we have is we get so much grief for being
what we are. It makes us want to hide from everyone,
(46:10):
and it's an unpleasant, unwelcome feeling because we can't help
who we are. This is what we are. We're born
this way. We didn't choose this. So if you find
out someone is, be nice to them. That's that's the
last thing.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Outsider.
Speaker 6 (46:28):
Yeah, quite literally, I.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
Learned much today.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
No, honestly, honestly, we had no idea what to coming.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
What we had seen on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
And everything, some of the vampires I talked to her
talking down to people, and we were like, I don't
know if this guy is gonna believe us. I don't
know how he's gonna be. And you were badass the
whole time.
Speaker 6 (46:49):
Like, thank you, thank you so much for coming on
talking to us man, just being honest. Man, have a
good day.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
We appreciate it. Take it easy man.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
You everything you want to plug? There we go.
Speaker 6 (47:01):
Oh uh well, ye go to Lulu dot com and
look for l Enance dot com help support a starving artist,
and everything's good.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
There we go.
Speaker 6 (47:16):
All right, guys, be well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Thanks man. Past the gravy bitches, Bravy.
Speaker 5 (47:21):
Gang Gang Gang, baby powder, topping lead and spread. As
we're listen and to past the great Gray we go
and fishing for your bitch today with chunk and Houston
now Houston baby. Now we go ahead and linim we'll
get rich today. Nich bitch Houston, that's his hometown. Passa gravy,
(47:46):
passa loud, loud we can talk and go for ours
hours entertainment, superpower, Gravy Gang getting.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
Louder, louder, cast up, no childer.
Speaker 5 (47:55):
Man, we laugh, no prouder, Live on, baby powdered, topping
lead and spread.
Speaker 4 (48:00):
Yes, man, that's way.
Speaker 5 (48:02):
Listens a pastor Grady grade. We're gonna with fishing for
your bitch today with Chunck in Houston now Houston Bay
and we go ahead, and Lenck can we'll get rich today,
Witch bitch.
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