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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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so we've got a lot to get to the rest
of the way, so let's keep it rolling here. You
just turn an update there from John Shannon about the
anthropic lawsuit. They're suing the Trump administration to overturn a
rare supply chain risk blacklist that effectively bans its AI,
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meaning anthropics AI, from government work. Nintendo, by the way,
has also filed a separate lawsuit with Trump seeking refunds
on the Trump era tarifs. We are going to talk
about both those things coming up here a little bit
later on, as John mentioned, But just for those that
don't really follow AI stuff. I will admit I'm someone
probably more interested in it than the average person. I'm
sure there's people more into it than me. But this
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is fascinating to say the least, because the Pentagon has
basically blacklisted Anthropic, which is one of the American AI companies,
and they're claiming that it is a supply chain risk,
a label that is usually used for companies that are
tied to foreign enemies, not US firms. So this company, Anthropic,
had been talking with the military about using its AI
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sort of discussing a partnership, but Nthropic got nervous that
the technology was going to be used for things like
spying on Americans or fully autonomous weapons, so they pushed back. Well,
then after they pushed back, the government then slapped this
national security label, which again is going to scare off
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any federal business. And now Anthropic is suing, saying, hey,
you're punishing us for having safety rules and you don't
have the legal right to do that. That's their claim.
So again, I'm interested in the development of AI in general.
It's also kind of scary the more I find myself
consuming any updates that we see out there. But it
is certainly important. And this is a I mean, if
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what Anthropic is claiming to be true is true, I mean,
that's that's being a bully, is what that is. But
I do quickly want to before we dive into the
specifics about that conflict there between the government and Anthropic.
It's open AI, which is chag GPT that is now
partnered with the Pentagon, And because of Anthropics claims, there's
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a lot of folks that are now knowing, Hey, I
use chag GPT and I don't you know, I don't
want I don't want the government to be to be
spying on me. And it is crazy to see the
growing number of crime cases out there, and when you
hear about how investigators were able to determine, you know,
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the evidence needed to bring charges on somebody, occasionally you're
going to hear and I think you're hearing it more
and more that you found out they were looking at
chat GPT on how to get away with a certain
crime or how to you know, what's the easiest way
to commit a certain crime. I mean, John, you and
I aren't the smartest guys in the world. I should
only speak for myself, but I mean, wouldn't anybody who
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thinks about committing a crime know that you probably shouldn't
be searching on chat, GPT or really just searching on
the internet on how to commit it.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, I mean people will do the same thing like
googling how to you know, build a bomb, that sort
of thing in the past. So if you're using the
Internet to do anything like that, you're really just you're
digging your own grave. When it comes to this sort thing.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
It's got to be the belief that you can just
erase it and it's never it'll never be found, yes, which,
now there are some instances where they you know, and
I don't even know, I don't know the details as
far as what type of digital footprints they can pull
up and what they can because there has been some
investigations like there, for example, there's been charges that were dropped,
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or there's been trials that led to not guilty verdicts
because you know, they felt like they had digital evidence
but they did go about it the right way, or
they were unable to recover it. So I'm sure there's
like a window of time to where it can be
recovered if it's been deleted within you know, sixty ninety days,
or whatever. But it's pretty I mean, if you think
about it. I mean, it's kind of scary to think
about the way people would be able to get away
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with stuff if they weren't foolish and not realizing that.
Nowadays you're leaving digital footprints everywhere you go with almost
everything you do. But that didn't used to exist, right
and now I can't imagine how many people are in
jail and have been caught for being dangerous criminals and
the only real proof right was the fact that they
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left evidence everywhere with searching on how to how to
cover up a crime or how to get rid of
a you know, dead body or something like that. So, yeah,
the technology is advancing, and again there's a lot of
benefit to it. One is how we catch criminals. But
I just can't I can't imagine how somebody wouldn't think that,
would they would go looking for that stuff. Now here's
a different level of concern as far as privacy and
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look af if you're committing crimes, you know you shouldn't
do that. But now even before you were to take
out any kind of action on a crime or pull
off something you're not supposed to do, maybe now you
have to worry about chad GPT reporting that to the
government and then being able to figure you out that way.
So if I was somebody that had chaggy and I
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do have chad GPT, I'm not I mean, am I
do I sound? Do I sound bad when I say this, John,
Because I don't want to sound like you know, who cares.
It's not like I'm like, you know, I'm gonna I'm
trying to like fight the government, but like I don't
ever worry about anything I'm looking up on the Internet.
Like if somebody of a higher level was able to
obtain that data, I don't care at all. And I
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feel like a lot of people are that's my privacy
and I'm and I'm provhacy is important to a lot
of people, myself included to a certain extent. But like
if the government was able to see what I was
looking at on the internet, I mean, I don't, I don't.
They probably think I'm weird at some in some of
the days that I'm looking at certain things, but like
that doesn't bother me overall. But I guess it's mostly
because I just assume they could get that information anyway.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, And that's kind of how I am too, Like,
if you're not doing anything illegal, I can't imagine what
the government would find on your phone that would be
And I mean not that you want them to see.
I get the whole thing of your privacy, that sort
of thing, but if they were to just casually check
out what's going on with your your Internet search history,
whatever it might be, if you're not doing anything harmful
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or could lead you to do something harmful, I don't
see what the I don't get why it's a huge deal,
if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
My guess would be is that it's the long term. Hey,
they're going to pick up they're going to know more
about us and you know, how big, how to train
us more like robots, that kind of stuff, which, honestly,
I think there's been some proof that clearly that's happening.
Right when it comes to the algorithms that we have
on these social media platforms, they're able to target and
manipulate to an extent a lot of society, and that's
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that is concerning.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
But as far as just like.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Hey, I don't want anybody look if if you look
at my chad GPT, you know it's going to be
the end of the world. For me, I can't necessarily relate.
All right, real quick, this is something that I think
is going to continue to be a story, meaning it's
not going away, and that is this new position that
was created for Kentucky Athletic director Mitch Barnhart. Now, I
don't have a dog in the fight here, right. For
those who know me, you know I'm not a fan
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of of UK athletics. But also I think you also
know that I'll be fair and me being a Louisville
fan doesn't mean that I can't objectively talk about Kentucky,
and I've oftentimes found myself as an outsider that it's
got some entertainment from the drama that comes with Big
Blue Nation, specifically the divorce that needed to happen between
Big Blue Nation and John Kelli Perry. That was fascinating
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to watch from afar because clearly that thing had run
its course. But it's like they were sticking together for
the kids, and the kids says, hey, we don't like this,
but hey, there's a chance every now and then we
might have a really good team. It could win a
national championship. Well, then when you lose to Saint Peter's
in Oakland, two had three years. That changes things. But
with Mitch Barnhart, I find it really really fascinating that
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he's gone from the guy that was just believed to
be the ultimate high character guy. And I'm not saying
that he's not. But if there was any negative about
him for a long stretch of his tenure as the
athletic director at the University of Kentucky, it was that
he was a little boring, a little bit out of
touch with the you know, the the younger fan and not.
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And also I think his job is to understand his
fan base, and it does seem like he's been out
of touch in a lot of areas over the last
you know, however many years. But overall, big picture, a
guy that people think works hard, is a good man,
a man of faith, and is well liked by most
of the coaches that he's hired. Obviously with CALIPERI a
little bit different, but you'd never accuse him of being
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somebody that you know, might be someone to take advantage
of the university. And I really don't think there's any
way around it. And we can revisit this coming up
about six thirty five. I'll let you hear more of
what Barnhardt had to say, and I know it's been
a big talking point on KSR because Barnhardt is accepting
a position that they're creating for him. They're going to
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pay him nine hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year,
and he is very, very defensive, downright pissed that anybody's
asking questions about this arrangement. And it's maybe the biggest
example ever as he's on his way out kind of
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that he's out of touch with a lot of things,
including optics, self awareness. I mean, this is the university's
cutting positions, and athletic departments are not struggling if you're
in the SEC. But clearly you got to be mindful
of what you're spending now because you have to share
twenty million dollars every year with players, and you're going
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to go hire a new athletic director and then give
this guy roughly a million dollars a year to do
a job that they won't they won't explain what the
job is, and they're they're downright respected that anybody would
ask if this is legit. It's it's wild to see
from a farcas. Again, I've got no dog in the fight.
But Mitch Barnhardt again, who's to say he's not a
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great man. I've never heard that he's not. But as
far as his exit here, it's a bad look to
say the least. All Right, stick around, We've got traffick
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Nick Coffee. That's me, the company made John all on alongside.
We are Coffee and Company, and we are fueled by
Thornton's and we not myself and John, but we as
a country. We're at war and there is no current
draft going on, and there's no expectation for that. So
I don't want to join in on any type of
coverage that is leading to fear for those out there.
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But what we do have, because we're war, you've got
politicians and the TV talking heads openly saying things like
all options are on the table when they talk about
these big conflicts, and that'll at least get people thinking, right,
it's rare that we're at war anyway. So also you
know that the government is updating the system, so draft
age men are registered more automatically, so just hearing that
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they're doing that could make people feel like, oh, are
they getting ready for something? And I'm not sure that
there's even I mean, there may be people right now
that don't even know where it war, or you know,
they forgot about it because it was news to them
when it happened and they just live their life and
don't think about any of that. But when you're at war,
if there's ever going to be a time to kind
of give that thought as far as hypothetically speaking, what
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would that look like now in today's society? And that
is fascinating if you think about it. But here is
the latest on the current situation as far as if
there was a draft to take place. This is from WLKY,
our partner's White House correspondent, Amy Lou.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
You didn't have to wonder about.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Actually that's not that's the wrong that's the wrong sound. Whoopsie,
it's not good. Let's see here. Never mind, I have
the wrong one pulled up. We'll revisit that later because
it was a good update as far as just the
actual process, if in fact it happened today. But where
I wanted to take the conversation I guess we can
get there now since I don't have my sound ready.
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The world was so much different the last time Americans
were drafted to go to war. I mean, I'm not
telling anybody anything they don't already know. But if you
just think about some hypothetical situations and if we got
their meaning a draft, I still just don't know what
I mean. There'd be so many people that would just
do whatever they cannot to go. Maybe I'm wrong in
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assuming that, And I know what you're thinking, Well, they
don't really have an option like you kind of have to. Yeah,
but I mean this day and age, you'd have a
lot more Maybe who knows if you really had any
ability to try to get out of it. But I'm
sure it's so far removed from something that society has
dealt with that I just I can't see any scenario
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that it would ever happen, and it probably won't, so
maybe it's not even worth getting into. But just think about.
Let me give you an example, Johnald And let's say,
let's say Fernando Mendoza in the midst of his Heisman
season to lead Indiana to a national championship. Well, what
are you gonna do? He got drafted. They called it,
they called his number, Like you didn't have to worry
about that. The last time we were we were in
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a situation where you needed the draft, and again we
don't need it now, but like if we did, I mean,
it's it's crazy to think about. I mean, the the
age range for those that you know, for those that
would be the top targets essentially that would have you know,
the highest probability probably of going to war. I mean,
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it could be one of the TikTok influencers that's got
fifteen million followers on TikTok. Well, sure enough, just happens
to be that they were drafted. And are they getting
out their phone like hey and getting ready to go
to war? Let me update my TikTok. Like society is
just so much different, I can't. I mean, these scenarios
that I guess could potentially play out if we did
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end up there, it is it's wild to think about. Also,
you've got industries that are so reliant on young workers,
like restaurants, warehouses, and obviously you don't have to be
young to do that. But I mean a lot of
our police and firement that we need, you know, here
to do what they do every single day for us,
they would be prime targets as far as the age range.
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I mean, not all of them, but certainly many of them.
So yeah, I don't think we'll ever have to worry
about it. But when you're at war, if there's ever
a time to kind of give it some hypothetical thinking,
I guess that is the time. And again I'll track
down this clip that I apparently have saved incorrectly because
it does sort of give you the rundown. You know, hey,
if snap your fingers and they had to do it.
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Here's the process, and it's again as you could expect.
It hasn't necessarily been updated in a long time, at
least I don't think it has because but again, there
are certain things as far as what you would do,
Like again, society had changed a whole lot in the
amount of time that's passed since we last were in
a situation where you had to draft people to go
to war. But how you'd go about it, I'm not
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really sure what came. And you'd probably still be targeting
the same age range, right, I mean, you still wouldn't
mean today there's still not a chance that women would
get drafted. I know there's been some pushback to change
that eventually, but yeah, interesting to think about. But again,
I don't want to act as if there's any real
threat of that right now. But when you're at war,
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you never know. All right, let's get to a quick
time out. We will take a quick look at the
traffic updates out there. We'll see how it's looking here
on a Tuesday morning. And also Leland Conway, he's got
a gut check coming up for you. And I want
to revisit the Mitch Barnhart situation just because I just
don't think this is going to go away. I'm not
really sure what people can do about it, but I
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think anytime Mitch has responded to any legitimate question about,
you know, things that pertain to the University can and
its athletic department, he's been a defensive, stubborn, just I mean,
out of touch individual to say the least. All right,
quick time out, trafficking weather updates or next, it's news
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Radio eight forty whas. It's news Radio eight forty whas.
Thanks for hanging out with us. So let's quickly just
pick up where we left off. I don't have a
whole lot of time here, but I did cue up
some sound, and I didn't have it ready, at least
I didn't have the right sound ready. But we were
discussing just the hypothetical situation if we were to have
a draft, because obviously we are at war right now
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here in America, and you're at least hearing the talking
heads and even politicians throw out things like nothing's off
the table, and I guess when it comes to nothing
that can include a potential draft. But here is Amy
lou a White House correspondent who works with our partners
over at WKY.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
To be clear, no plans of an official US military
draft have been announced, but there has been a lot
of talk about it, in part because, when asked, White
House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt said that President Trump is
quote keeping every option on the table. So if a
draft were to happen, here's how it would work. To
be clear, no official plans for a draft have been announced,
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but if it were to happen, many people want to
know how it would actually work. By law, only men
can be drafted, even though there have been recent efforts
to expand and include women. The last draft was called
over fifty years ago, if it were to happen today.
The Selective Service system says Congress, and then the President
must approve a draft that activates the Selective Service, which
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all men in the US, leading citizens and immigrants are
supposed to register for within thirty days of their eighteenth birthday.
A public lottery determines the order. Men ages eighteen to
twenty five are drafted. Typically those turning twenty the year
of the lottery go through the process first. Once drafted,
all men must pass physical and mental evaluations to be
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eligible for military service. Some may apply for exemptions. Many
high school and college students maybe eligible for postponements. Others
can differ if they have dependents or can prove a
strict religious, moral, or ethical objection to war. Ministers, certain
elected officials, and some immigrants and dual nationals are also exempt.
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Some may have applied for something called conscientious objectors, meaning
they could qualify for alternative service like caring for the
young or old or healthcare. Appeal boards process the claims
before delivering the first inductees to the military within one
hundred and ninety three days of an authorized draft. Again,
this is all just background on how a US military
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draft would work in general, there have been no talks
of an official draft happening right now reporting in Washington.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I mean, elo, so again, no talks of it happening.
And I cannot see a scenario really where what I guess,
let me back up. I could see a scenario where
we'd get there. I just can't imagine. I just can't
see it actually happening because it would just be such.
I mean again, fifties more than fifty years since that
last happened. And here's to hoping what President Trump has
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