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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is seven oh five here News Radiate forty whas.
Happy Friday. That is right, we made it to the
end of the week and we appreciate you hanging with
us here at News Radioate forty whas. Nick Coffee, that's me.
He is Dwight Mitchell of LMPD with us in his
usual spot here at seven o'clock. So before we dive
into the more serious conversation, I was thinking of you
yesterday whenever I was having to hit pause on my
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YouTube TV, Dwight, because I'm I was watching the game,
had to go do something, and I you know, I
knew if I just if I just avoid opening up
my phone and looking at anything, I can still watch
it and not have the game be spoiled for me.
And then I was thinking about you because you know you,
especially when you were on patrol. You know, you have
a job that really doesn't matter like anytime, any day,
twenty four seven, three sixty five. You got to do
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the job. You gotta do the job. What was it
have you had? Did you miss games? Because you're a
dialhard little of a Cardinal fan as all of our
listeners now know, Like was it did your DVR record it?
Did your VCR record it? Like I just you know,
it's one of those things where when I'm watching postseason basketball,
like I'm thinking to myself, like, man, I can't imagine
what anybody in the world will be doing other than
watching this. This is so important. But again, other people
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have jobs and things that you know that comes first,
and they got to catch up later.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Well, first of all, Nick morning, And I'll tell you
what the difference was. Yes, I missed a lot of it,
but I followed a lot of it right here at
this station because at that time, there we go Van
Vans and Jock Sutherland, We're calling the games back in
those days, and so I relied a lot on radio
and them painting the picture. So a lot of times
I didn't get to see it visually or well back
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in the day, actually they would show the highlights. Well no,
they would replay the game on.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, so you got to see it that way. But
a lot of it was on radio doing that time.
And that's why I'm a radio person to this day.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I can tell you what I'm just imagine a scenario
where you've got to show up because of a call,
and you know you're trying not to. You know, you're
trying not to figure out the game because you know
you may be able to watch it later or whatnot.
And then you realize wherever you show up, they've got
it on because it's just one of those things, right.
I've told the story before. I missed a game, and
this is years ago, and this is back when life
was a little bit different for me, Like I've missed
games now because you know, I've got real life, grown
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up stuff that I got to do. But there was
a time where, like I didn't think there was anything
to life other than louis of basketball. Believe it or not.
I was that kind of fan. And I remember I
missed a game because of a funeral, and I remember
we went out to dinner later and I avoided all
of the TVs around me. I just was going to
try my best to challenge myself to see if I
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can actually get to my apartment at the time and
turn it on and not know what happened. And we
ended up stopping at a store and I saw a
I think it was it was a wind Dixie. Those
were still around, and I remember seeing a Louisville fan
walking down the aisle and I could just tell by
their body language. We lost, and I went home and
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I watched it, and sure enough it was against West
Virginia when they played them at West Virginia back it's
probably like two thousand and ten, maybe two thousand and nine,
and I remember I remember thinking to myself, well, it's
the end of the game. They're up like two with
twenty seconds left, they've got the ball, and I'm like, well,
I guess that fan was just sad about something. And
then sure enough, twenty seconds later they they blow the
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game and lose it in regulation. So yeah, this day
and age, so it's just really hard with everybody having
access to it what not. But where do you think
the Cards are right now? As far as they're into
the regular season. Obviously it feels like Mickel Brown's return,
if he does return, that's going to be crucial. But
I think overall, a pretty solid showing in Charlotte.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yes, I was.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I saw some improvement in some places, and then some
people may argue that they haven't seen any improvement at all.
And I'm an eternal optimist about life in general, but
in particularly about the Cards. And you know, we have
some talent and that's all gonna come down to match up.
You know, people say that, but it really does come
down to that, and it depends on where we see
it in who we're playing against, it, who's in that bracket.
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I think, you know, obviously a first round loss would
be a disaster, second round loss.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Would be cut.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It depends out what looks disappointed.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, but if you get to the sweet sixteen, that's
probably about if I'm being honest about our ceiling based
on what I've seen for the year. I mean, because
the results basically say that. And if you get to
the sweet sixteen and it's also a crapshoot at that point. Yeah, Again,
it comes down there because some other people may lose,
but the matrix likes us, and you know, we may
get a decent seed out of it.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah, I think a six seeds realistic at this point,
depending upon what happens the rest of these conference tournaments.
And you know, I think overall, pack Kelsey to get
to the tournament, and then if he was to make
the sweet sixteen easier Seve than done, of course i'd see.
I think you'd look back at the first two years
and say we're on track to get this thing back
to where we want it to be.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
So well, it's better than where we were to nurse
out about.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
And look, nobody will ever tell you that, Hey, Louisville
should just be happy to be in the tournament because
we do have higher expectations and the standard. It's different
around here, but we can't ignore life. We had a
rough stretch, right, and I have no shame in admitting
that even this year. I mean, I don't I don't
think they're going to lose in the first round, but
I certainly know that's possible. Right, I'd be a liar
if I didn't tell you that.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
On Sunday, I'm too and in and I'm going to
see where my team seated. And I didn't have that
for a while. And you learn to appreciate it when
it's gone.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Well.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You know, everybody can be with you when you're on top.
It's when you're in the valley that you really find out.
There's just like a tea bag, you never know what's
in it until it's activated. About hot water, and so
that's what we're gonna find out.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Louisville fans learned how dedicated they are whenever they went
through the rough stretch that we had where just many
years of not only not being very good, but some
other things along the way. But we're out of that.
And again, I know we do aim to be at
the highest level because this is Louisville Basketball. It's always
going to be held to a high standard. But again, life,
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it happens, and the human elements a real thing, and
going through that rough stretch has made me appreciate things
in a way that I really never thought I would again,
and actually it's kind of not that I wanted to
go through that, but it's actually if there's any any
silver lining, I would say that that's it. But now
we'll switch gears here to talk about a little more,
some more serious stuff. There's a couple of bills that
have been that have been moved through frame to address
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domestic violence here in Kentucky. House Bill six Poet one,
would improve how domestic violence data is collected across the state,
and Housepill four eighteen, which strengthen custody protections for survivors
and family court cases. The reason I wanted to bring
this up to you is because oftentimes, if you are
on patrol and you get a call, you're reporting to
It's not an uncommon thing to report to a domestic
situation right at a house. And because of how serious
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this is and how serious it's taken, even you know,
outside of these bills, it seems like that's one of
the things that people may not realize that if you
do pick up the phone in the heat of the
moment and threaten your spouse to call the cops because
things are getting contentious or maybe even physical, you know,
you guys are required to essentially hold somebody accountable for that.
You can't just show up and say, okay, oh, everything's okay,
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now we're gonna leave right.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
You know, when I first got on the police department
back in the eighties, it was that way, but obviously
old the years, you know, that's probably one, if probably
one of the most dangerous runs that are not officer
will go on to. It's a domestic violent situation. You know,
you always think it's between spouses, but now it's living
boyfriends and girlfriend, baby mama drama or all of those
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type of things that come into place now. And obviously
we've had people really get hurt in those situations or
get you know, the life taken.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
So we take it very seriously. Now, one of.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
The things that people need to understand is when you
call the police that is so serious that somebody's going
to get locked up, because our main goal at that
points to find out who the primary aggressive was in
those situations, and then most of the time, all the
time are arrested in that situation, and it's not always
the man.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
So I would assume, like this is one of the
many instances where it just comes down to your judgment,
your discretion in a situation where you know you're going
to have to take what you have as far as
the information that's provided and make a decision without maybe
like full on proof in those situations where it's a
he said, she said, I mean, what are some indicators
that can help you feel as if you're making the
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right decisions? First, who was that primary agressor? Because sometimes
it's impossible to know.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Right sometimes it is, but most of the time you
can figure out who the primary aggressor was, and that
is the litmus test. Yeah, who was the primary aggressor
in that situation that got it elevated to this point. Obviously,
visible injuries when you can see them, sometimes you can,
sometimes you can't, but you know, with some experience that
you know the officers have and going to those situations, you
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can pretty much make a pretty well educated decision on
who the primary aggressor was and who needs to be
taken to jail at that point. And then obviously it's
up to the courts and then division themselves of how
they get themselves together or it doesn't happen again.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And I'm sure things do get heated to where they
feel some protection and some safety by calling law enforcement,
but also they don't know. Again, it doesn't matter if
you feel that you need to make the call, you
need to make the call, especially if things are developing
to get worse and you need somebody to come and
you know, calm the situation down. But I know, you know,
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without ever wanting your significance, sometimes you want somebody to
go to jail. But then I'm sure there's other times
where you just don't realize, like, hey, even though you
say you're you're not mad, you're not hurt, somebody put
hands on somebody. We're here, this is a domestic situation.
It's not up to us. It's what we have to do.
It's our job. And I think a lot of people
don't know that right.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Well, you know, you don't call the police.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Just because playing on your phone with the police.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
No, no, no, no, especially in that situation when you
when you've called the police, then we know that it's
a situation that we want to deal with and deal
with it quickly, uh again, to restore order and to
restore safety at that point. And you know it's not
it's also very dangerous, pot officer, because one of the
things you said was the fact that all of a
sudden when you get there, that then they think they
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have the ability to tell you, well, I just wanted
you to hear to calm this down.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
And it doesn't work that way.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
It doesn't work, you learn at all.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
It's not a game because if you felt that you
were in that type of danger, to call the police
is that serious and you ought to take it serious.
And I think most people doing to understand it. Now.
It's not a thing that I'm gonna get back at
you and see how this goes. That may be the
case with some people, but that's just simply not how
it works.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, and then there's you know, there's something that call
thinking that Okay, you know, I'm going to try to
get someone in trouble here and use this as a
weapon against this person I'm fighting with, and then you know,
the facts come out and it's clear that the person
who called is the one who's gonna end up going
to jail, and they learned the hard way. What are
some other things potentially that people just may not realize?
You know, you know, you want somebody to get locked up,
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or you or you see somebody getting arrested and charged
with something and you're just wondering, like, how could this happen?
I mean a lot of folks, probably you know, I'm
in one of them. I'm ignorant to certain things as
far as like what you all have to have as
far as visual proof to actually charge somebody, or maybe
something that hey, I don't need to I've got enough
witnesses here that i could actually charge somebody.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Well, you know, speeding.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
You know a lot of people I think you can
just lock people up for speeding if you didn't see it. Well, mister,
mean have to be committed in an officer's presence, except
for shoplifting. That's the only one that we don't have
to see. You know, evidence puts that on in doing
that and a lot of time it's lost prevention officers
that are within stores and they able to retain the individuals.
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We come and do the necessary things, but they're but
backing up a little bit more to the domestic violence thing.
Not only do a lot of people, but all the
resources that are out there. I want to establish that
of people who before it gets to that point. There's
a lot of agencies, you know, the Office for Women
Families and all the other organizations that are around. Uh,
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get that information, know that information so you never get
in that situation to begin with. I want to emphasize
that it's just not locking somebody up, but also the
preventative part in the beginning to help them absolutely for
those reasons and also men sometimes no doubt it does.
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But in terms of things that officers have to deal with,
in terms of what people think, why don't you like
that person up and do that because a lot of
times they're misdemeanors and again have to be committed.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Why aren't you taking them to jail?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yes, and uh, you know, and people just want to
get back at people sometime.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
But there's a thing called they.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Use all for the petty childish fighting.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
It goes all times.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
At times, but most of the time, you know, we're
able to come to a good resolution. Everybody's not gonna
be happy, and that's not our goal. Our goal is
UH is justice what we can give uh and at
least on our party, and then it's obviously up to
the courts at that point.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
After then, as always, we appreciate you stopping by. Looking
forward to it next week and it'll be March madness.
Let's hope that when we talk next week, either the
cards haven't played yet or they've survived in advance. We'll
find out.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Well, that's the name of the game, it's surviving advance.
And I got I got some hope. And that's if
we didn't have.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
It's infectious. I like it. You give me some more hope.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
It's gonna be all right, man, good vibes one way
or the other.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
That's right, Thank you, Sarah. All right, all right, let's
get to a quick time out. Don't go anywhere. Stick
with us. It's news Radio eight forty whas. It is
seven thirty six here at news Radio eight forty whas.
Happy Friday. See if you are somebody that's going to
be out and about this weekend, there is going to
be some bridge demolition going on that's going to affect
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weekend traffic on I seventy one and I two sixty four.
So the closure in that area is to begin tonight
at eight o'clock and is going to last through five
am on Monday. And drivers aren't going to be able
to take the Waters Expressway to seventy one South and
vice versas. So it also won't be possible to continue
on seventy one North past that area, and the drivers
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are going to need to follow the detours and take
other routes, so be advised. I'm sure there'll be many
that are out and don't realize it, and they'll learn
the hard way. So anything to help any If if
there's one person that hears that and they now know
not to find themselves in a potential traffic nightmare, then
then I guess we did our job all right. Something
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we talked about earlier for those just now joining us
that I think you'll start to hear more people as
this is this becomes, you know, something that you find
out more and more people are impacted by it. I
think you'll realize just how big of a mess the
unemployment situation was back in twenty twenty. So the situation
that we have now is there's more and more people
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that have been notified that they were paid the incorrect
amount of money through unemployment back in twenty twenty, or
they receive money when they technically shouldn't have qualified. And
what's happening is these people are now being told that
they owe that money back, and it doesn't come down to, hey,
are you going to give it back? Gonna they're gonna
take it. I mean, there's one woman who tells WDRB
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that she's lost her tax refund because that's how they
were going to get it back, and even that didn't
cover the amount that she owed. So this woman says
that she was told she'lld sixty five hundred dollars roughly,
and she didn't get her. They took it out of
her tax refund and now she's on a payment plan
with the state. And this is sort of a never
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ending debate as far as a Navy situation is different.
But the debate I'm talking about is if if you
were incorrectly like if somebody made a mistake and gave
you money and they weren't supposed to. I mean, I
don't really think it's debatable that like, you know, you
know you're not owed that money, and you know that
like that was a mistake, but like do you have
to give it back or is it just hey, they're
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a loss. They shouldn't have done it, not my mistake.
And I think where it becomes a gray area is
the certain level of good faith. And what I mean
by that is some people may not believe it, but
there are many that would never really know if they're
getting the right amount of money for unemployment. Now there's
there could be a certain amount that comes in that
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you would probably just it'd be hard for you not
to be surprised and think that we have this doesn't
really make a lot of sense. Why am I on
unemployment making more money than I would make if I
was employed? I mean, yeah, that's a red flag. But
then it just comes down to like, can you truly
prove that somebody knew they were getting something they weren't
supposed to get? And I think that's tough to do. Again,
some of it's just common sense, but some of it's
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not right. Some of it I think it is legitimate
that hey, why do I got to give this money back?
I didn't. I didn't realize that, you know. I mean
I applied for unemployment and you told me that that
I was good. Why would I that's your fault, you
told me I was, so that that's on you. How
do you want me to give this money back? That
was how I survived, and now that would be you know,
I just I do think it's not every situation's the same,
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and clearly the state sees it that way as well,
because there are some and by the way, here are
just some numbers for you. Thirty eight thousand Kentuckians have
received overpayment letters saying that they must repay benefits. So
that's a lot of people, right, But some people have
been given repayment notices that say overpayment was caused by
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quote depart mental error and the debt is forgiven. So
those that don't get the departmental error notifications, they're being
told that repayment is needed in they're threatened with leans
or tax refund seizures, which again has already happened with some.
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So it's unclear what the state is doing to determine
who gets the debt waved and who must repay. And
I think that's a very important detail to figure out.
But I mean, this is the I mean, it's just
this one woman, for example, I mean sixty five hundred bucks.
I mean it could be three thousand bucks, and telling
someone that they owe that because of a mistake that
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like they technically may not have ever known that that
was a mistake, because it's one thing to have it happen,
and you then raise awareness and then because here's this
is actually something that came in on our text line
earlier that I thought was a really it's a fair point,
and it's actually kind of funny given what the unemployment
situation was at the time. So like, let's just say you,
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John Alden, Let's say you got like two thousand dollars
more every week than you're supposed to get. That's just
the hypothetical, and you tried to reach out to let
them know, you probably wouldn't even be able to get
in touch with anybody. No, I bet you wouldn't be
able to And like even if even if they then
were able to confirm it was a mistake, they probably
wouldn't even have been able to turn it off. That's
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how broken it was. So like at that point, if
that hypothetical played out, which I don't know. Maybe it did.
Maybe there's somebody that did that exact thing. And if
that's the case, were they supposed to just all just
hold this, hold onto this money till you figure things out,
like it's just I don't know when when the states
had falled in every way, meaning they clearly had the
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departmental air that they claim, or they just didn't have
the ability to check your application to see if you
even qualified. I mean, both are wrong. If somebody did
it for you know, knowing, they were just gonna get
away with it because there's not as much oversight, you know,
technically they're not supposed to do that. I think I
think that should be frown But you know, overall, the
fault is on the state for not having a system
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in place. And again, I think they hit a situation
that unrealistic to expect them to be able to handle that,
but maybe not so in realistic to think they could
have at least done a little bit better, because it's
it was a mess. All right, Let's get to a
quick time out. We'll get to traffic and weather updates
coming your way on this Friday morning. We're off to
a rather warmish start. Shell out. I mean, forty five
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degrees is not freezing cold, but it feels colder because
we've got some wind and it's gonna be windy today.
Stick around with the details from Morose right here at
News ready to eight forty whas. I know I say
this every Friday, but I really mean it today. I
cannot believe how fast this morning is flown by. Am
I alone here, John Alden? Is what'ming about for you?
This whole week's been pretty fast. For being honest, Okay,
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so always, I feel like more often than not, I
found myself saying that at home with my wife, and
I can tell she just gives me a look like
yeah right. So when I know that she's having a
slow week and I'm and she's not able to join
in on me feeling like it's flying by and we're
getting close to the weekend, I feel bad, but I'm
with you. I think this week is flown by in
a big way. Life is flying by. We're already midway
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through March, folks. I mean, that's that's insane to say,
but here we are all right with it being mid March.
Right now is the time where you really don't know
what to do with the thermostat. One day you're going
to have it with the heat on because it's getting cool.
That's probably going to be Monday when we're going to
be back in the thirties, but obviously tomorrow gonna be
Sonny in sixty.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Who knows.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
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roadways are looking on this Friday morning. Bobby Ellis has
got us updated there and we'll talk some more sports
another day at college basketball all day and I'm here
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