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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This job carries with it a heavy responsibility that we
have to live up to. That is not what happened
on this day. Sometimes we have to make decisions to
take people's lives, and this was not one of them.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
That was Lmpdchief Paul Humphrey not long after he saw
body cam footage and was able to make a quick
decision as far as what happened on that night where
one of his officers did something that he's now being
held accountable for. Not only has Nathan Stotts been fired,
and to speed up that process, he went ahead and
resigned and now he's facing criminal charges and those charges,
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as you heard of the news update there from John
Shannon manslaughter and reckless homicide. That's what a grand jury
decided to do. And to me, this is just a
reminder of what you sign up for whenever you choose
to be a cop. And also this is just an
overall unfortunate tragic situation every whey around and I know
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nobody will ever I shouldn't say nobody. Many will never
see this officer, former officer now Nathan Stotts as a victim,
and I get it. It just doesn't sound like real
life because he's not a victim necessarily, but I don't
believe that he had any intent of hurting anybody that night.
And I don't believe that he got into law enforcement
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because he wanted to abuse that power and hurt somebody.
And I'm sure many officers that have made mistakes that
they not only lose their job for, but they end
up behind bars. Maybe I'm the naive one, but I
think that they had no intent and that was never
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the reason why they ended up getting into the industry.
I'm sure there are some. I'm not that naive, right,
nobody's perfect, and the reality is this when it comes
to law enforcement, just like any other industry in the world,
you're not going to have perfection. It's also the one though,
that when you don't have perfection, it's a terrible look.
The standard held for law enforcement is insanely high as
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far as just everything, as far as how you conduct yourself,
what you I mean, it's one of few industries that
you just anytime there's any wrongdoing or somebody makes a mistake,
there's nobody that's just going to say, oh, that's okay. Now. Again,
there's also times where they do really stupid things and
it's a real detriment to the overall trust that society
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has in law enforcement. Those are seriously isolated compared to
the vast majority of law enforcement overall. But we all
know how it works, right, One bad thing that's really,
really bad can cloud people's judgment of law enforcement overall.
So look, this is just how the justice system works.
The grand jury was presented with what they saw, what
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they know, and they chose to indict. And when you
take on the role of being a law enforcement officer,
you sign up for a lot, including the responsibility of
being tasked with having to make a split second decision
in situations you've never been in before. You have no
clue how you'll react until you're in that moment, regardless
of all but training you receive, and regardless of maybe
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you've been in a situation somewhat similar before. The way
you react in this instance may be different than what
you did years back, and the results, of course, could
lead to maybe you being able to, when the dust settles,
say hey, I can live with what I did there.
That's the job. And then the next time around you
may say, in that split second, I made a terrible
decision and I don't know why I did it, but
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I did it in the moment, and I've now taken
somebody's life and potentially ruined mine. So you may learn
in that moment that you didn't perform to the standard
of what the position requires. And it's not about ill intent,
but just know that when you sign up, this is
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something that could happen to anybody. Being a cop is
a sacrifice in more ways than I think most people acknowledge.
And if it was an easy gig where you can
just you know, abuse power, milk over time, eat donuts,
is that's still a stigma. By the way, people just
make fun of cops for eating a lot. Is that
I feel like that kind of faded.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
But either way, if it was easy, everybody would do
it right, it's not. Deep down you know how dangerous
it is. Deep down you know the situations you could
be presented with. So I will admit, and we've already
had a couple of you reminding me that I was wrong.
I did not expect there to be criminal charges, just
because I think it's a slippery slope. Now again, I'm
not here to tell you that they've made the wrong decision.
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Here again, this is how the justice system works. There's
a grand jury for a reason, and they collectively went
with the information they had and they chose to bring
these charges. So it's not like I'm saying they got
it wrong. I just if I had to guess, purely guessing,
would he face criminal charges? I lean to know, and
clearly I was wrong. Stick around. I'll be wrong a
lot more often than you might realize, and I have
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no problem of admitting when I'm wrong. But again, it's
a slippery slope when you start charging officers criminally for
split second decisions, because that could lead to fewer people
wanting to take on that responsibility. And I get it.
You've already got departments, including our very own at LMPD,
that are struggling to meet the number of officers that
are required and a fear of being prosecuted for just
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doing the job. That's part of the conversation. But again,
this is how the justice system works. And when you
sign up, you know there's a chance you could end
up in that spot. You know the risks when you
raise your hand and take that oath, whether it's the
risk to your safety, your mental health, your freedom. If
a jury decides you cross the line. And I'm sure
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this is a reminder to many that are law enforcement
officers that if you've never been in the spot that
Nathan Stotts was in, you really never know what you
would do, how you'd react until you're in that spot.
And you never want to be in that spot, right,
who would be? But it's part of the job. And
when they pick up the phone, meaning civilians in a
high stress situation, you're the one that comes there and
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has to be met with that situation, and it's easy
to think how you'd respond. It's easy to you know,
I shouldn't say it's easy. I have no clue. I
have no experience, but training, there's a lot of training
that goes into it, but you still just don't know
until you're there. And I know it's one of the
many reminders that that I think we could really see
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every day if we look hard enough, that being a
cop is a sacrifice. And I don't think Nathan Stotts
ever intended to hurt anybody, but he was tasked with
the responsibility. He made the wrong decision, and there are
consequences when you make the wrong decision, even if you
are somebody that is law enforcement.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
All right.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Earlier we were talking about Matt Bevans's child support issue.
Is he still has a bench worn out for his arrest,
and it didn't take long for you all to chime in,
as I encourage you to do. As far as child
support stories, We've got one that I want to share
with you that somebody shared with us on the talk
back that I think is interesting to say the least.
And if you want to join us on the show,
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along here on a Tuesday morning. Thank you for being
with us. So we were talking earlier about Matt bevin
still facing a bench warrant and he's yet to be
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taken in. And I'm aware he's not viewed as some
violent criminal that they've got to get off the streets,
and he's yet to even really know that's what this
case is about. He is yet to determine what he's
going to be. I guess it's yet to be determined
what he's going to owe in child support. That's really
the fight here, right. They want meaning the judge wants
full medical or full financial records so they can make
that determination. And Bevin the reason there is a bench
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worn out for his arrests because he's yet to provide
that and that's what the court's requesting. But that led
to somebody sharing a child support issue, which again, this
is different than Bevin because he doesn't know what he
and also this is retroactive child support, which I'll admit
I didn't even know that was a thing. As far
as the current situation where it's his adopted son who's
now an adult, that is that is fighting for money.
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But this is uh, I'll just let you hear for yourself.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, so you're talking about bench warrants and I just
I got to share this got pulled over about fifteen
years ago, and next thing I know, I'm in handcuffed
bench warrant. Failure to pay child support for a kid.
I didn't even I didn't know I had a child.
Found that out on the side of the road. I'm
gonna go ahead and bet nobody's topping that one.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I'll throw the challenge out there. Can somebody tough that one?
I mean that is uh? That seems like uh. I
mean again, I got questions, man. I appreciate you chiming in,
but like you may need, like you may need to
start a podcast or something that's depending on where that
story goes, John, that could be like a Netflix documentary.
I'm sure somebody finding out years later they have a
kid is uh is I would say, still rare, but
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like you've heard of it happening, but to find you
I might have had an idea that there were possibility
or something. Well, wouldn't you just assume And I'm asking
and I'm asking, so if you're still listening, let us
know you had to assume they just had their own person,
Like there's just no way that that could be real
and then you find out again, I'm distracted now just
with all the questions as to how that could end
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up happening. Because if a woman is old child support
and is fighting for it before you even get to
a legal process, wouldn't you think that she would be
hunting down herself the guy who she knows as the father.
Let me get just thinking out loud here, John, Could
it be a scenario to where she thought the father
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was somebody for fourteen years and found out that Tommy
wasn't on her side. She didn't have it right. It
was somebody else that actually was the kid or was
the kid's father, and then it was like a Moory schedule. Yeah,
and then she didn't have any way to keep up
with him because you know, that was a long time ago.
She just knew it. She you shouldn't find him on Facebook.
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She just knew his name, didn't know where he was,
and he was wanted. Because again that's not to say
I don't appreciate you sharing your story, but I got
more questions because that had to be a life changing
experience for you when you find out that way. So yeah. Also,
apparently in Jefferson County Sheriff's Office they've been cracking down
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on this lately. Somebody writes in on the text line
sharing a story about how they just recently saw and
I happen to see on the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office
YouTube page, they do show in a video they posted
of them doing exactly this, executing warrants and go, and
I guess bringing people in who've had a long time
to pay and aren't doing it, and I guess just
are assuming they're going to be aokay unless they get
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pulled over or something. So yeah, if you are old child,
if you owe child support, you don't need me telling you. You
already know, but I'll tell you anyways, you should probably
take care of that as best you can. I mean,
sometimes you can't write. Times are hard, but running from it,
ignoring it probably not going to work out for you.
All Right, We got sports coming up on the other side,
looking forward to that. We'll talk a little bit about
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the big the big hiring yesterday in Lexington as Kentucky
has found their new athletic director. Really, for me, i'd
say this title it may not ever change, but I
think you're gonna see athletic directors essentially turn into being
CEOs for these athletic departments. So a lot of the
reaction from Sunday Nights UFC event at the White House,
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it started to come in a little bit after we
wrapped up yesterday. Obviously that was a late night event
and we get this thing started pretty early. So a
lot of the reaction nationally didn't come in until yesterday
late in the morning and then throughout the afternoon, and
some of that reaction was folks coming out and saying
that they don't they don't like, or they don't support,
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some even asking President Trump to denounce what Josh Hoko
said about Michelle Obama after winning one of those fights.
I don't think you'll see Trump denounce it, but I
do at least have some level of dare I say unexpected?
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You know, I guess I'm trying to think of the
right way to word this because I want to be
careful with my words when it comes to this specific thing,
because I don't necessarily think that I'm totally shocked that
there are people that are coming out that actually hate
the Obamas politically. But we'll tell you, yeah, this that
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was just out of line. That's just an insult that
was unwarranted. It didn't like if you do it, like
if you do it at an event that's political, like
truly is political, like a rally or something, it's still
a lame thing to do and it's just being a jerk.
But like, at least there's at least some level of
like understanding how that even came up so pleasantly surprised,
is I guess the best way to describe it, because
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if nobody said anything, even if they truly felt like
that was the wrong thing to do, they probably would
have done it because they just wanted to stay loyal
to their side. But those that are strongly supportive of
Trump and strongly supportive of them having the event with
the UFC, we're willing to come out and say, yeah,
that was the one real turd of the overall night,
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because it was. It was just it was stupid. And
I do think the background here of Josh Hokit is interesting.
He's a former NFL player, and he's highly educated. I
believe he's got a degree in political science. This is
not some brain dead idiot. This is somebody that, for
reasons only he knows, is looking for attention and looking
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for clout. That was evident with what he said Sunday night,
with other things he said throughout and what he posted
on social media yesterday. Here's what he posted on his
Instagram account. Strong and courageous the only two reasons I
joined this sport. If you exercise those every single day
and back them up with hard work, the money and
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success will follow. And when honest say, I'm not here
to be liked, I'm not here to be a role model.
I don't care. I'm here to succeed. I'll do whatever
it takes to get where I want to go. And
if you don't like it, come beat me in a fight.
That was seemingly his response to the overall situation, as
of course, he got what he wanted a lot of attention,
and only he knows what he was expecting as far
as that attention was he expecting to have nothing but
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approval and cheers from people because he didn't get it
at all. And this wasn't this wasn't free speech. It
was wasted speech. I mean, you're on the South Lawn
National TV at to celebrate the two hundred and fiftieth
Birthday of America and you chose to just be a child.
He didn't own anybody. He just told everybody that he's
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desperate for attention. And how about the if you don't
like it, fight me? What are you? Thirteen years old?
That's something a bully says in the hallway in seventh grade,
not a grown man. You don't like it, fight me.
I'm going to be a jerk. I'm going to be
a complete ass clown and just say, you know, something
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that there's no truth to and also something that is
just the only the only thing to take from that
is him just wanting to be a jerk. And look,
you do have a right to do that. You didn't
break the law, but like who you went and over what?
Like what? Like who is hearing that and thinking that's
my guy? And if you are, you're a jerk too,
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regardless of what you think politically about the Obamas. That's
just choosing to be an ass And I think what's
happening here with Trump is that he might even agree
that that was just you know, that was that was
over the top.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Man.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I wish he didn't do that, because now there's at
least some level of evidence there's something to point to
to where this wasn't just about celebrating America and all
the other great things that did come from what they
chose to to to include and feature in that whole
spectacle on Sunday, But this is one that was just
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using the platform to and again he wasn't even really political.
It was right. I mean, that's somebody that clearly the
Obamas and Trump are not on good terms. I think
we all know that, right, But that's just so, even
if Trump did agree and wished that it was wouldn't
be said. He can't help but let his personal feelings
get in the way of really everything he does. Just
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like the people on January sixth, he thinks those are
his warriors. So he doesn't just want to get them
expunged as far as the criminal record, he wants to
like have them. He wants your tax dollars to go
to them because they they showed up and they chose
him over America. And this guy, despite being a real
dumbass and saying something that actually brought some negative light
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to an event that overall was pretty successful, he's gonna
not denounce it because one, he'd never admit somebody did
something wrong that supports him. But like he he thinks
that Josh Hokit did that for him and he appreciates
him for that. To me, that's that's how I see it,
And I'm basing that off of many different things over
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many years. As far as just behaviors and decisions, Emotion
is way too much tied into decisions made by this
person who is our president. Doesn't mean he does everything wrong,
doesn't mean that, you know, we had better options from
the other side back in you know, twenty twenty four.
Trust me, we had a guy competing against Trump that
didn't know what planet he was on. But I think
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when you when you think about the redeeming qualities of well,
he's not a politician who care I like somebody that's
not presidential because he's just gonna be real with us,
who cares about your feelings? It's about five like you
get you know, that's all easy to say, and look,
there is some benefit to that at times, but also
like that was just somebody being a jerk, and I
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was pleasantly surprised and happy to see that. Like, regardless
of where you stand politically, a lot of people just
saw that as Look, that wasn't necessary, and that's just
you choosing to be an ass. All right, let's talk
about the deal that is effectively going to be signed
on Friday, this piece deal with Iran. We'll tell you
what we know. It's a little tough to truly determine
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what actually has agreed upon, But when it comes to
the objective of this war, ending the nuclear threat, I
don't think we're ever going to get Iran to fully say, yeah,
we'll never create nuclear weapons again. And I thought that
was what we needed for Trump to point to the scoreboard.
And I don't think he's going to be able to
do that. Right the victory lap, he's going to take one.
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He might already be doing it. But I thought you
needed one specific thing that I don't think we're going
to get in order for that to be justified that, Hey,
we went there and we accomplished what we set out
to accomplish. So when you questioned why this war with
Iran was necessary, I'm sure initially you could get a
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lot of responses, but what it came down to is
that the ultimate nuclear threat that iron has had for
far too long, that's the objective. That's what we want
to eliminate. Those that were supportive in a big way. Hey, look,
we can deal with paying five bucks a gallon for
gas because this is going to be worth it in
the long run. Trump can say that he's not worried
about the affordability crisis in America because look, right now,
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he can't focus on that. He's got to make sure
that we get this taken care of and we fully
remove any threat of nuclear weapons from Iran. So now
that you hear that the deal's done, we won, We're
now getting more details, and I'm not quite sure that
we're going to be able to say that what was
hopefully going to be accomplished was actually accomplished. JD. Vans
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is the one who who was making the rounds yesterday,
talking all over the place. Every network seemingly had him on,
and I think what he's doing right now is really
just not explaining the deal, but he's kind of cleaning
up the messaging as best he can, and I do
think he's doing a pretty good job given the situation.
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But here is his conversation, or some of his conversation,
I should say, with Sean Hannity on Fox News in
regards to the plans to ensure that Iran never has
another nuclear weapon.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
The President has been most consistent on this point, and
that is they cannot and will never have a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
How will we be able to verify that? Will we
have American inspectors on the ground. What happens to the
nuclear dust? Will will it be degraded or will it
be removed? Will we be a party to that?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Like?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Will it will? Will it reflect what we did in
Libya years ago.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
So what we're going to.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Do Sean is destroy the highly enriched material, the nuclear
dust as.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
We call it.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
And you know, we're going to do it with the Iranians.
That's what the President said. He wants us to work
with the Iranians, with the international organizations to destroy that
stockpile of enriched material because that does set them back
a little bit further. We've already fundamentally destroyed their program,
but that does set them back a little bit further,
and that's important, of course to the United States. And
they're agreeing never to enrich they're agreeing right now to
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eliminate the enriched stockpile. And if they don't get to
a point where they agree to stop enriching, then they
don't get the other benefits of the bargain the present.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
So the very in there, if they don't agree, I
mean that that alone tells you they haven't agreed yet,
that they're not telling you that they're never going to
eventually be right back where they were when this whole
thing started. So what we have here is Trump Advance
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both virtually signing into an agreement to start sixty days
of nuclear negotiations with no guarantees on how it's going
to end. You're still relying on them to give you
something that they clearly don't want to give you. So
even if they did right confirmation, do we trust that
they're going to abide by it. I would hope that,
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you know, I would hope we'd have more than just
their word on it, right, Because if that's the case,
I mean, what's that really worth here? And they have
very little to lose compared to us, So in the end,
if it's over, that's all we want, right, But I
don't know how you're going to be able to, realistically,
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with some level of awareness of the situation, be able
to claim this was something super successful and it was
justified and we got it done. We live in a
world now where you can use the Internet, the World
Wide Web and convince yourself whatever you want to believe
is true. So knock yourself out. But to me, as
far as the facts, unless something changes, I'm not sure
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this is going to ever look back and be viewed
to something that one we accomplished the ultimate goal. All right?
We got a sports day coming up on the other side.
Texas Tech. They showed early on it was worth fighting
for that transfer quarterback Brendan Sowsby. It was a worthy
fight until it wasn't, and that was yesterday as things
took a real turn. We'll get to that coming up
here about five minutes. Don't go anywhere.