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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is seven o five here on a Friday morning.
Thank you for being with us at News Radio eight forty.
Whas coffee and company with you, and we are fueled
by Thornton's Nick Coffee. That's me Scott Fitzgerald's alongside John
Shannon as well and the one and only Dwight Mitchell
of LMPD. He's making his regular stop on a Friday.
How was that? How was your How was your morning? Yesterday?
We had some crazy flash flooding going on. Did you
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didn't get you didn't get underwater?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Did you No?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I had to do a little maintenance on my pool,
you know, Oh yeah, because it was close to being flooded.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
But I got that together and we're okay.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
So when when you have weather situations like that, you know,
it's one of those things where first responders of all
types are collectively kind of working together, kind of knowing, hey,
I might be needed, even though you know, I'm not
somebody that would go put out of fire, but hey,
if there's ems presence needed or law enforcement police presence needed,
you know, that's kind of how it works. What is
what was like? I guess rescues is that something that
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an officer could certainly navigate as far as just coordinating
what needs to happen. We did actually have one of
those yesterday. But if you're in one of these divisions
that had the real bad rain where the flash floods
were in a bad way, I imagine that certainly will
take up a lot of your mourning.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It could, and a lot of it.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
We do a lot of traffic and things, especially on
the bridges and overpasses because that's where it has the
tendency to flood, so officers may be on patrol doing
that type of thing. But you know, all right, emergency
Management agency around here does a wonderful job and mobilizing
all of our first responders if need be to that level,
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and certainly police department wouldn't be part of that along
with fire and EMS and everybody else to you know,
help make a situation bad.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And bad that makes it better.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Sure, I wouldn't have thought about this until we started
having our weekly conversations just because I wouldn't have given
it much thought. But it makes total sense, and it's
important that you all working together collectively is huge, right,
not just with there being a good relationship with EMS
and law enforcement and firefighters but also the city as
a whole, like the mayor. And again, these are things
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that are pretty common. It's it's just it's common sense.
It's just something I hadn't given it much thought about.
And you kind of see when you have situations like yesterday,
everybody working together to get through it. And then of
course the real tragic situations like the ups plane crash, correct,
and that is that those are tragic situations. And I
dared even say there's any silver lining, but it is
at least nice to see when those things do occur.
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You truly see how well everybody is working together for
the common goal and that you've got good collective leadership
within all of those entities.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Right, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
And that's why they call them first responders, yep, Because
everybody has a job to do, and I think everybody
in what they're good at is in those situations, are
doing what they're good at, and collect.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
They got a role they're there to execute, right.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Correct, Just like you have a team in anything, everybody
has a role and there's no big eyes and little
us and that I think everybody a bort coordinates themselves,
but to share go of the group. And I think
anytime you do that, usually success spotels that.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Chief Humphrey was in Frankfort earlier this week and one
of the things he discussed is the importance of the
new juvenile detention center here in Louisville. We now at
least have a timeline as far as when it's going
to be when the project is expected to be completed. However,
Chief Humphrey stating that it would be nicer if it
could be done sooner than that, because it's something that
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is needed as an everyday officer that's on patrol, that
is dealing with violent crimes that are taking place, and
it's juveniles involved, whether it be the victims or the perpetrators,
sometimes it's both. If we did have, if it was
up and run in today, what would be different. What
would make that not only an asset for the community
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as far as keeping people safer and even an asset
for parents who probably would prefer their kids be there
rather than not knowing where they are. But how would
it impact the process of those officers that are involved
in investigating and doing what they got to do when those
crimes take place.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
But naturally it wouldn't take as long because now since
we don't have a juvenile center right here in Jefferson County.
We're having to take kids and maybe Warren County or
Derrek County and they're away from their families and maybe
some of.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
The resources they need, and that's not that close, by
the way, No it's not. Now.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
One of the things you know that Chief Humpy said
is we need it yesterday really to get this is true.
And the reason is because a lot of these kids
think because there is no juvenile detention center here locally,
they can do whatever they want to those that are
in that particular lifestyle that they're doing. And I just
think that the mere fact of knowing that you have
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some type of punitive thing that could be at the
end for you and you know where the building is,
that you might have a tendency to take a second
say do I really want to go there? Because it's
not a great place to be any time that you're
confinding your freedom is being dictated in a different way.
But we need it's part of our society. Unfortunately it is,
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and we have young people committing crimes and doing adult crimes,
and in those situations, they need to be in those
type of facilities and they need to be close.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I've always thought that the out of sight, out of
mind situation from people out in the state, it makes
it impossible for them to truly realize how important it is.
Right if you are living in a rural area in
Kentucky or maybe let's just say Frankfurt, let's not to
say you won't deal with a crime that might happen
to be involving kids, but you're not exposed to it
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like we are in Louisville to understand how big of
a deal it actually is. I don't think anybody's denying
it or doubting it that's out in the state, but
I think you have to kind of be here to
realize that there's a lot of violent crime that goes on.
That we're getting better, we're making progress, but it's no
longer a shock when you see one of the latest
murders or one of the latest shootings is involving there
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are both sides again, victimer perpetrator, one of them being
a juvenile, or maybe both, Like, that's no longer there's
no shock when that happens. And I'm glad to hear
that Chief Humphrey spoke up about that, because, as you said,
it's as he said, it's something that you probably needed yesterday.
Was it just state funding that led to the closure?
And and maybe you think if if I'd have told
you we'd be here years later, would would you? Could
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you have predicted that we would realize how much we
miss it?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
You know, it's one of those things. When it was
here and it was run properly, it was what you
expected to be.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
It's all you really knew, right because it's been the
same thing for so long.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
But but the travesty in this whole thing is the
fact that we need one to begin with.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
You know, I think, you know, just not having one
is not is not is not that's not sustainable.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
It's not and it's been proven that way. And you know,
at least now we're trying to get back to get
in together renovating the place, and I think it's still
about a year away from that. But again, it's collective
thing about you know, young people when they commit crimes
or do anything. You know, everybody says, well you should
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know the difference. I can't believe, you know, what are
the parents doing and all of that, And it's true, however,
if they get caught up in the system. It is
our responsibility to see what we can do to turn
those lives around if we can, and they're willing. Our
GBI program that we hear, our gang Balance and Eviction thing,
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a group balanced intervention group is designed for young people
that if they're in that life, that they have an
opportunity and we give them resources to get out of
their life, including their parents and giving them resources that
they need. So there's no need for the drivenile Detention
Center as much as we need it now unfortunately, and
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I think it was said a few years ago that
one of the reason why we needed because some of
these kids might be alive today if they were there
as opposed to And that's a sad commentary to say,
but truth, it's the truth. And at the same time,
so I can't say it's exactly I don't want to
put in saying that it's a safe haven because your
home should be that, but in case you're up in
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that as system, at least that can be a place
where that they can be housed. Hopefully it's a situation
where they don't want to be in. And again, because
it's not your house, you don't have your mom and
your dad there, and things like that. You got other
people that are trying to care for you, but not
the same way your parents would in a healthy home.
And that's what you and that's what we all are
striving for homes to be healthy, whether they're dual parents
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or single parent are, you know, whatever the situation may be.
And that's the complexity of it all. And where we
all want to be is is for kids to grow
up in a decent environment where they become valuable citizens
to our city because those of us who are getting
up in age, that's the next generation coming along and
you want them to have a similar values that you have.
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Then won't have the same, but similar to be decent people.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Some for some individuals, it's a necessary step to getting
where you need to be. And what I mean is incarceration.
I mean, nobody should have that on their plan in life,
but sometimes without you knowing it, nobody wants to be incarcerated,
but sometimes you have to do that, not only because
there's consequences for your actions, but it does have a
purpose as far as rehabilitation and just realizing, man, this sucks.
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I need to get my life together because I don't
want to be behind bars and I hear some politicians
that are of the mindset that, no matter what, no scenario,
should we lock up somebody that's a child that's underage.
I don't know how you'd ever thought about that. I
don't know why that makes sense, But it's people who
I know have never really been in a situation where
they have to give much thought about their kid being
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in jail. And yes, there's plenty of examples where these
kids that end up being victims of violent crime, or
they're the ones committing violent crimes, they never had a chance,
they had poor leadership, They are following in the footsteps
of those who created them that do the same things.
There are certainly examples of that, but there's also examples
of parents who are trying the best they can, but
they just they need some assistance, to need some help.
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There was a school bus stop shooting that took place
that is last I think it was last September August,
and of course it was tragic situation all the way around.
And there was a father who did an interview with
one of the TV stations that had been trying to
get his kid on the right path and it wasn't
working out. He was having issues with the mom to
where they were on the same page. And there's no
doubt in my mind that he would have preferred had
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the trouble that his kid had already been in led
to him having to spend some time behind bars. He
would have preferred it because he would know that and
there he doesn't have to worry about getting a phone call.
Is he is he dead? Is he somebody that's committed
another another violent crime that's ruined his life. That is
a layer of it that I don't think you hear
much about, is that there are some parents out here
that know their kids are a problem and it devastates them.
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They're trying the best, but they they'd rather have this
option of incarceration just because it's there's always since the
beginning of time. As much as nobody wants to be there,
it does have.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
A purpose, yes, and I hope it's only a temporary purpose.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
When it's in that changes everything and it's not going
to be that for everybody, but.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It can be.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah, And you know, still, the best home is not
a children's home, but a home created by your parents.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Again, whether together or not.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
You know, I oftentimes have heard people say, well, I
don't need a man.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I don't need a woman.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
But your kids do. Sure, that's the difference. You might not,
but your kids do, especially if they're decent people. And again,
you know, we all do the best we can. I'm
a parent, you're a parent, and you know we were
discussing off earlier. One of the things that always and
still to this day, keeps me that I never wanted
to disappoint my parents.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
That was the key thing.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
It wasn't about our cult or anyone else who had
poured something into me. And it's not always your direct
family that does that. It can be other people in
your life that you don't want to disappoint. And I
don't know what we lost that, you know, in terms
of having I want to be the best because I'm
want you know, one of the things my mother said,
only the best thing you have is your name.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
That's the only one you'll ever have, and.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
It never goes away.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It never does.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
You're older than me, but there's without any thought. I
know that there's an element to my getting up and
wanting to have a good day and be productive and
be successful is because I don't want to make my
I don't want to disappoint my parents. But also I'd
like to know that whatever I did or whatever I accomplished,
they could be proud of it. Absolutely, And that starts
in the early early stages of your life.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
It does early on because you know, be an African
American too. And I don't mind saying that, and I'll
add two chapters to that before I take it back.
Is the fact that there's a standard that that should
always be lifted up. I think one of the things
and since it's is juneteenth thing, yeah, and take a
second here with that. One of the things that was successful,
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that made the civil rights movement successful is because back then,
when the cause was there for better rights for whether
blacks or poor whites or whatever the situation might be,
the examples that we used were people of integrity, so
things couldn't move. The first person to sit down on
the bus was not Rosa Parks. It was a fifteen
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year old girl who was denied that The reason why
they didn't use her and the struggle was because she
was pregnant. Now we wouldn't do that today. We'd put
her right out there because we wanted nobody to have
a flaw. So Rosa Parks was an upstanding person. You
couldn't argue against who she was, and then the movement
took place. So the fact that we have dignity and
things like that, not to disparage a situation when people
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have misfortunes in their life, but to understand that when
you have integrity in a situation, I don't care what
color you are. People want to get behind that when
you have integrity and you're trying to do the right thing.
And that's what we try to do at LMPD. Is
happening integrity. Yes, we have our issues from time to time,
but by and large, every day we go out here
and try to do the best we can to men
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and women who are on the streets are doing detective
work or patrolling or whatever the situation may be. That's
the ultimate goal, and I think that's what people expect
from us.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Well said, all right, any Father's day plans.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Well, on Father's Day, you know you always hope to
get the big piece of chicken, and that's my goal.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
One day, that's the day you should get it, right.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Oh yeah, but I get it every day. My wife
and my family are very good to me. Well, it's good,
but if they want to take one day out just
to recognize me for that other than a birthday.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I'll take it you, sir. Happy Father's Day to you,
same to you my friends. Nothing better being a dad, right.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
That's the most wonderful thing that you could ever do,
is help replenish the earth. And I got two fine
sons and stepdaughters and grandkids and everybody that I try to,
you know, influence and things.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
And I still having my mother here.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
You know, it's gonna be ninety years old if the
good Lloyd keeps her here to November the twelfth. And
I still just marvel every day at the fact of
the upbringing I had and the opportunity I've had to
live in this community.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Hopefully make a difference to it my time.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
No doubt about it. Thank you, sir. Let's get to
a quick time out trafficking weathers on the way, don't
go anywhere. Seven thirty five here at news Radio eight
forty whas the sun is shining already and going to
be a beautiful day, so make sure you take advantage
of it. Happy Juneteenth and Happy Father's Day to all
the dad's out there. I know it's not Father's Day,
but I won't talk to you on Sunday because I'll
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be enjoying Father's Day and We've made it a tradition
to do Churchill Downs, and I think I remember doing
it at times with my dad whenever when I was younger,
and then of course I think, really since I've been
a dad, that's kind of been what we do. There
might have been a year or two that we didn't,
but it's something we do pretty regularly on Father's Day
and I'm looking forward to it. So again, nothing better
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than being a dad. I can tell you that firsthand because, uh,
I got two kids and life for me, and I'm
sure many of you out there can relate it. It's
different when you have a kid. You you live two lives,
the life you had before you became a parent in
the life that you have after. And I can't even
really relate to the life that I used to live.
I enjoyed it, right, it was fun, But it's I
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always say the you you develop, at least I hope
you do, and I know many do, but unfortunately some
I'm sure don't. You develop a level of selflessness that
you never knew existed when you when you instantly become
a parent, and uh, you know, there's a lot that
comes with it stress, uh, of course, costs, we all
know that, and there are a lot of emotions that
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come with it. It's a roller coaster, but none of
that can even come close to matching the great and
the joy that comes with uh, with being a dad
and really just being a parent overall. And one of
the things you do when you're about to become a
parent is you decide, and and that's something we've discussed
a little bit throughout the morning, and we'll do it
again right now for those just joining us. So we've
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got some new data as far as the top five
baby names boys and girls uh this year. So boys, Liam, Noah, Oliver, Theodore,
and Henry traditional names. I was gonna say that that
tells you that the traditional, the the the the names
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that I don't think we'll ever have an expiration date,
like a Henry, like a Oliver. I feel like did
have a way. There were no Oliver's when I was
growing up as far as kids near my age range,
But now I know of many that are Oliver or Ali.
But then there's you know, the John's, the Williams, Thomas.
Those aren't going anywhere. Those those are here to stay forever.
So but then there's other names that kind of went away,
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and we'll talk about that is a second. But the
girls names that are that are popular here this year,
the top five Olivia, Charlotte, Emma, Amelia, and Sophia. And
I'm I can tell you that I know, oh people
who have a daughter that four of those father are covered.
I know I know somebody that's got in Olivia. I
know somebody that's got an Emma, an Amelia, and a Sophia.
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I don't know as Charlotte, but I'm sure if I
gave it some thought, I might realize, oh, yeah, I
know somebody who has a daughter named Charlotte. So all those,
all those check out before we dive into the names
that are that are going away, that are that are endangered.
Right now, how did you and your wife come up
with the names for your kids? Interesting?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
My wife had to say in the first one, and
I was too young. I went along with it. I
wasn't necessarily a fan of it, but I went along
with it, and then we kind of mutually came to
a second agreement.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
For my son.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I thought of that one, so she thought of my
daughter's name. I thought of my son's name, and you know,
we just kind of met them. Yeah, we were in
the middle.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Now, what about like, was there more pushback for you
with her and the girl name or vice versa, vice versa.
She had a hard time. You know.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
I came up with with Brogan for my my son's name,
and he's Brogan Patrick Fitzgerald.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
That's a good name. That's a good that's a good
you know, it's not it's not insanely rare, but it
is rare, right, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
And then only later to find out my my nerdy cousin,
who's a he's a Civil War buff. He goes, you know,
you know that that brogm was a shoe in the
Civil War, and I'm like, oh man, I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Like, you had to go there.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
But what we did find out was my son's name though,
And we did find because at the time Aiden, every
kid in my son's class was named Aiden. Everybody went yeah,
Aiden had a run Yeah. And so then we found
out that not only Brogen was one of those unisex names,
and so we started seeing more girls name broken, but
we're starting to see the name Brogan up here more.
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And that I felt pretty good about it because I
didn't at the time, that was totally thought of by me.
I didn't know that was going to be a name
that most folks use. But regardless, you know, I stand
right there with you, Nick as a parent on the
backside of this now, with a daughter who's now a
teacher and a son who's going to graduate next year.
You just want your kids to grow up and be
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better human beings. You want them just to be good people.
And when you look back, I look at all the
things that you know, and you know this. John Alden's
knowing this, John Shannon's finding this out, the things you sacrifice,
the superhuman powers you dig deep to find within yourself
when you're a parent.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
You don't appreciate that till you are a parent.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
And now I thank my mom, and I've kind of
reconciled with my pops and thanked him for everything he's
went through.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
And that's the beauty of parenting.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
And now on this Father's Day, I didn't speak to
my dad for a while, and now I call him
on Father's Day and we talk here and there. And
it was only after I had kids in my own
that I started to realize that.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
So when you and I mean just anybody listening. When
you're celebrating your dad or even your you know, your
mom can fit in there too. Thank them if they
didn't give you an awful name, because you have no
control over it. It's something that you know. It's the
I think a lot of times when we're young, especially
for good reason, Like your parents do control you. They
make decisions for you because you're a child. You don't
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know any better. But the one thing that you'll never change,
unless you do decide to get a legal name change
is the name that they that they choose to give you.
And sometimes there are names that last a while because
of they just like there's a lot of like for example,
John William Alden, our producer. He's the third or fourth right, Yeah,
so like there's a good chance that if he has
a son, they're probably gonna go with that, and you know,
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and there's that's just one of those names that are
that will never go away. But then there's the others
like a Gary or a Hubert or a or a
Nigel that used to be used to be popular to
an extent, but like in recent decades it's almost become
completely extinct. I mean, you just don't meet many people like,
when's the last And again there's I think the name
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and I don't know if there's any dad out there,
but the woman name, the female name that will probably
die first is Karen. Because one, it's just before before
being a Karen became a thing, it already wasn't a
common name, like there was no I can't think of anybody,
you know, I'm almost forty years old. There's nobody that
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was within the age range of me growing up, whether
it was somebody that was a little bit younger than
me or somebody that was, you know, five six years
older than me. I didn't know anybody named Karen. I'm
sure they existed. Sure, But here we are, you know,
twenty five thirty years later, forty years later, if you will,
and they're like that that name by the you know,
by the time I call it, I call it a life,
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and I'm my time on earth is done in that year,
whenever it may be. Let's say it's when I'm eighty
years old. Wouldn't shock me if there's not a single
person named Karen or maybe Bernard Bernie.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
You know, it's really cool is if you go to
the Social Securities website, you can look up the top
baby names by decade, and what's really interesting is if
you go to the beginning of the century, the nineteen hundreds,
three most popular boys' names, John, William and James.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, those are never going away. Mary Helen will always
be alive, and well Mary, Helen and Margaret were in
the uh, we're for the girls.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
But then you go to say, like, just go to
the sixties for example, Michael, David and johnow By, Lisa,
Mary and Susan. I mean, it's just interesting to see
how the names change, but yet somehow come back to those.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, my name, I think my name and Nicholas okay,
And I feel like it's not super common, but it's
certainly not rare, probably more on the common side than
the rare side. Given what, you can really name your
kid anything you want. But yeah, the uh, the the
name that I have now and I don't know if
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this is still the case, but now, if you name
your kid Nicholas, at some point in recent years there
was data that showed that you're more likely to call
it Nico than Nick, which interesting me is again I
understand as far as like Nicolas Nico, and in fact
I spell my name every day without a letter that
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actually exists on my birth certificate, which is the K.
The CA is not really there, so I guess I
could go by Nic. But nonetheless, like that just tells
you there's always things changing with names to where people
do choose Nicholas, maybe they go by Nick if that's
the case. Like if if we ever had another child
and it was a boy, and I would never push
for it, but my wife wanted to have a junior,
I would not call him Nico, call him Nick. But
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maybe he'll be the maybe he'll be the odd ball
in school if he was to get to that age.
Did you always have Nick?
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Like did it start in kindergarten? Were you always Nick?
Or did you start out as Nicholas and it transformed
into Nick.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
There was always people even until like people that like
my grandmothers that aren't here anymore, they would call me Nicholas. Okay,
my mom would call me Nicholas when she was mad
at me. And I do remember, like I can remember
cause it stood out as I didn't really it was
odd to me, but watching like home videos when I
was a little bitty kid, maybe even like a toddler,
I don't think Nick was said. It was just Nicholas
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and then at some point I became Nick and that's
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It is seven o five here on a Friday morning.
Thank you for being with us at News Radio eight forty.
Whas coffee and company with you, and we are fueled
by Thornton's Nick Coffee. That's me Scott Fitzgerald's alongside John
Shannon as well and the one and only Dwight Mitchell
of LMPD. He's making his regular stop on a Friday.
How was that? How was your How was your morning? Yesterday?
We had some crazy flash flooding going on. Did you
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didn't get you didn't get underwater?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Did you No?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I had to do a little maintenance on my pool,
you know, Oh yeah, because it was close to being flooded.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
But I got that together and we're okay.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
So when when you have weather situations like that, you know,
it's one of those things where first responders of all
types are collectively kind of working together, kind of knowing, hey,
I might be needed, even though you know, I'm not
somebody that would go put out of fire, but hey,
if there's ems presence needed or law enforcement police presence needed,
you know, that's kind of how it works. What is
what was like? I guess rescues is that something that
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an officer could certainly navigate as far as just coordinating
what needs to happen. We did actually have one of
those yesterday. But if you're in one of these divisions
that had the real bad rain where the flash floods
were in a bad way, I imagine that certainly will
take up a lot of your mourning.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It could, and a lot of it.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
We do a lot of traffic and things, especially on
the bridges and overpasses because that's where it has the
tendency to flood, so officers may be on patrol doing
that type of thing. But you know, all right, emergency
Management agency around here does a wonderful job and mobilizing
all of our first responders if need be to that level,
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and certainly police department wouldn't be part of that along
with fire and EMS and everybody else to you know,
help make a situation bad.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And bad that makes it better.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Sure, I wouldn't have thought about this until we started
having our weekly conversations just because I wouldn't have given
it much thought. But it makes total sense, and it's
important that you all working together collectively is huge, right,
not just with there being a good relationship with EMS
and law enforcement and firefighters but also the city as
a whole, like the mayor. And again, these are things
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that are pretty common. It's it's just it's common sense.
It's just something I hadn't given it much thought about.
And you kind of see when you have situations like yesterday,
everybody working together to get through it. And then of
course the real tragic situations like the ups plane crash, correct,
and that is that those are tragic situations. And I
dared even say there's any silver lining, but it is
at least nice to see when those things do occur.
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You truly see how well everybody is working together for
the common goal and that you've got good collective leadership
within all of those entities.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Right, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
And that's why they call them first responders, yep, Because
everybody has a job to do, and I think everybody
in what they're good at is in those situations, are
doing what they're good at, and collect.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
They got a role they're there to execute, right.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Correct, Just like you have a team in anything, everybody
has a role and there's no big eyes and little
us and that I think everybody a bort coordinates themselves,
but to share go of the group. And I think
anytime you do that, usually success spotels that.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Chief Humphrey was in Frankfort earlier this week and one
of the things he discussed is the importance of the
new juvenile detention center here in Louisville. We now at
least have a timeline as far as when it's going
to be when the project is expected to be completed. However,
Chief Humphrey stating that it would be nicer if it
could be done sooner than that, because it's something that
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is needed as an everyday officer that's on patrol, that
is dealing with violent crimes that are taking place, and
it's juveniles involved, whether it be the victims or the perpetrators,
sometimes it's both. If we did have, if it was
up and run in today, what would be different. What
would make that not only an asset for the community
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as far as keeping people safer and even an asset
for parents who probably would prefer their kids be there
rather than not knowing where they are. But how would
it impact the process of those officers that are involved
in investigating and doing what they got to do when those
crimes take place.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
But naturally it wouldn't take as long because now since
we don't have a juvenile center right here in Jefferson County.
We're having to take kids and maybe Warren County or
Derrek County and they're away from their families and maybe
some of.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
The resources they need, and that's not that close, by
the way, No it's not. Now.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
One of the things you know that Chief Humpy said
is we need it yesterday really to get this is true.
And the reason is because a lot of these kids
think because there is no juvenile detention center here locally,
they can do whatever they want to those that are
in that particular lifestyle that they're doing. And I just
think that the mere fact of knowing that you have
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some type of punitive thing that could be at the
end for you and you know where the building is,
that you might have a tendency to take a second
say do I really want to go there? Because it's
not a great place to be any time that you're
confinding your freedom is being dictated in a different way.
But we need it's part of our society. Unfortunately it is,
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and we have young people committing crimes and doing adult crimes,
and in those situations, they need to be in those
type of facilities and they need to be close.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I've always thought that the out of sight, out of
mind situation from people out in the state, it makes
it impossible for them to truly realize how important it is.
Right if you are living in a rural area in
Kentucky or maybe let's just say Frankfurt, let's not to
say you won't deal with a crime that might happen
to be involving kids, but you're not exposed to it
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like we are in Louisville to understand how big of
a deal it actually is. I don't think anybody's denying
it or doubting it that's out in the state, but
I think you have to kind of be here to
realize that there's a lot of violent crime that goes on.
That we're getting better, we're making progress, but it's no
longer a shock when you see one of the latest
murders or one of the latest shootings is involving there
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are both sides again, victimer perpetrator, one of them being
a juvenile, or maybe both, Like, that's no longer there's
no shock when that happens. And I'm glad to hear
that Chief Humphrey spoke up about that, because, as you said,
it's as he said, it's something that you probably needed yesterday.
Was it just state funding that led to the closure?
And and maybe you think if if I'd have told
you we'd be here years later, would would you? Could
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you have predicted that we would realize how much we
miss it?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
You know, it's one of those things. When it was
here and it was run properly, it was what you
expected to be.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
It's all you really knew, right because it's been the
same thing for so long.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
But but the travesty in this whole thing is the
fact that we need one to begin with.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
You know, I think, you know, just not having one
is not is not is not that's not sustainable.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
It's not and it's been proven that way. And you know,
at least now we're trying to get back to get
in together renovating the place, and I think it's still
about a year away from that. But again, it's collective
thing about you know, young people when they commit crimes
or do anything. You know, everybody says, well you should
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know the difference. I can't believe, you know, what are
the parents doing and all of that, And it's true, however,
if they get caught up in the system. It is
our responsibility to see what we can do to turn
those lives around if we can, and they're willing. Our
GBI program that we hear, our gang Balance and Eviction thing,
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a group balanced intervention group is designed for young people
that if they're in that life, that they have an
opportunity and we give them resources to get out of
their life, including their parents and giving them resources that
they need. So there's no need for the drivenile Detention
Center as much as we need it now unfortunately, and
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I think it was said a few years ago that
one of the reason why we needed because some of
these kids might be alive today if they were there
as opposed to And that's a sad commentary to say,
but truth, it's the truth. And at the same time,
so I can't say it's exactly I don't want to
put in saying that it's a safe haven because your
home should be that, but in case you're up in
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that as system, at least that can be a place
where that they can be housed. Hopefully it's a situation
where they don't want to be in. And again, because
it's not your house, you don't have your mom and
your dad there, and things like that. You got other
people that are trying to care for you, but not
the same way your parents would in a healthy home.
And that's what you and that's what we all are
striving for homes to be healthy, whether they're dual parents
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or single parent are, you know, whatever the situation may be.
And that's the complexity of it all. And where we
all want to be is is for kids to grow
up in a decent environment where they become valuable citizens
to our city because those of us who are getting
up in age, that's the next generation coming along and
you want them to have a similar values that you have.
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Then won't have the same, but similar to be decent people.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Some for some individuals, it's a necessary step to getting
where you need to be. And what I mean is incarceration.
I mean, nobody should have that on their plan in life,
but sometimes without you knowing it, nobody wants to be incarcerated,
but sometimes you have to do that, not only because
there's consequences for your actions, but it does have a
purpose as far as rehabilitation and just realizing, man, this sucks.
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I need to get my life together because I don't
want to be behind bars and I hear some politicians
that are of the mindset that, no matter what, no scenario,
should we lock up somebody that's a child that's underage.
I don't know how you'd ever thought about that. I
don't know why that makes sense, But it's people who
I know have never really been in a situation where
they have to give much thought about their kid being
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in jail. And yes, there's plenty of examples where these
kids that end up being victims of violent crime, or
they're the ones committing violent crimes, they never had a chance,
they had poor leadership, They are following in the footsteps
of those who created them that do the same things.
There are certainly examples of that, but there's also examples
of parents who are trying the best they can, but
they just they need some assistance, to need some help.
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There was a school bus stop shooting that took place
that is last I think it was last September August,
and of course it was tragic situation all the way around.
And there was a father who did an interview with
one of the TV stations that had been trying to
get his kid on the right path and it wasn't
working out. He was having issues with the mom to
where they were on the same page. And there's no
doubt in my mind that he would have preferred had
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the trouble that his kid had already been in led
to him having to spend some time behind bars. He
would have preferred it because he would know that and
there he doesn't have to worry about getting a phone call.
Is he is he dead? Is he somebody that's committed
another another violent crime that's ruined his life. That is
a layer of it that I don't think you hear
much about, is that there are some parents out here
that know their kids are a problem and it devastates them.
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They're trying the best, but they they'd rather have this
option of incarceration just because it's there's always since the
beginning of time. As much as nobody wants to be there,
it does have.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
A purpose, yes, and I hope it's only a temporary purpose.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
When it's in that changes everything and it's not going
to be that for everybody, but.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It can be.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah, And you know, still, the best home is not
a children's home, but a home created by your parents.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Again, whether together or not.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
You know, I oftentimes have heard people say, well, I
don't need a man.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I don't need a woman.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
But your kids do. Sure, that's the difference. You might not,
but your kids do, especially if they're decent people. And again,
you know, we all do the best we can. I'm
a parent, you're a parent, and you know we were
discussing off earlier. One of the things that always and
still to this day, keeps me that I never wanted
to disappoint my parents.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
That was the key thing.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
It wasn't about our cult or anyone else who had
poured something into me. And it's not always your direct
family that does that. It can be other people in
your life that you don't want to disappoint. And I
don't know what we lost that, you know, in terms
of having I want to be the best because I'm
want you know, one of the things my mother said,
only the best thing you have is your name.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
That's the only one you'll ever have, and.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
It never goes away.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It never does.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
You're older than me, but there's without any thought. I
know that there's an element to my getting up and
wanting to have a good day and be productive and
be successful is because I don't want to make my
I don't want to disappoint my parents. But also I'd
like to know that whatever I did or whatever I accomplished,
they could be proud of it. Absolutely, And that starts
in the early early stages of your life.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
It does early on because you know, be an African
American too. And I don't mind saying that, and I'll
add two chapters to that before I take it back.
Is the fact that there's a standard that that should
always be lifted up. I think one of the things
and since it's is juneteenth thing, yeah, and take a
second here with that. One of the things that was successful,
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that made the civil rights movement successful is because back then,
when the cause was there for better rights for whether
blacks or poor whites or whatever the situation might be,
the examples that we used were people of integrity, so
things couldn't move. The first person to sit down on
the bus was not Rosa Parks. It was a fifteen
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year old girl who was denied that The reason why
they didn't use her and the struggle was because she
was pregnant. Now we wouldn't do that today. We'd put
her right out there because we wanted nobody to have
a flaw. So Rosa Parks was an upstanding person. You
couldn't argue against who she was, and then the movement
took place. So the fact that we have dignity and
things like that, not to disparage a situation when people
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have misfortunes in their life, but to understand that when
you have integrity in a situation, I don't care what
color you are. People want to get behind that when
you have integrity and you're trying to do the right thing.
And that's what we try to do at LMPD. Is
happening integrity. Yes, we have our issues from time to time,
but by and large, every day we go out here
and try to do the best we can to men
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and women who are on the streets are doing detective
work or patrolling or whatever the situation may be. That's
the ultimate goal, and I think that's what people expect
from us.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Well said, all right, any Father's day plans.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Well, on Father's Day, you know you always hope to
get the big piece of chicken, and that's my goal.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
One day, that's the day you should get it, right.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Oh yeah, but I get it every day. My wife
and my family are very good to me. Well, it's good,
but if they want to take one day out just
to recognize me for that other than a birthday.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I'll take it you, sir. Happy Father's Day to you,
same to you my friends. Nothing better being a dad, right.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
That's the most wonderful thing that you could ever do,
is help replenish the earth. And I got two fine
sons and stepdaughters and grandkids and everybody that I try to,
you know, influence and things.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
And I still having my mother here.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
You know, it's gonna be ninety years old if the
good Lloyd keeps her here to November the twelfth. And
I still just marvel every day at the fact of
the upbringing I had and the opportunity I've had to
live in this community.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Hopefully make a difference to it my time.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
No doubt about it. Thank you, sir. Let's get to
a quick time out trafficking weathers on the way, don't
go anywhere. Seven thirty five here at news Radio eight
forty whas the sun is shining already and going to
be a beautiful day, so make sure you take advantage
of it. Happy Juneteenth and Happy Father's Day to all
the dad's out there. I know it's not Father's Day,
but I won't talk to you on Sunday because I'll
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be enjoying Father's Day and We've made it a tradition
to do Churchill Downs, and I think I remember doing
it at times with my dad whenever when I was younger,
and then of course I think, really since I've been
a dad, that's kind of been what we do. There
might have been a year or two that we didn't,
but it's something we do pretty regularly on Father's Day
and I'm looking forward to it. So again, nothing better
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than being a dad. I can tell you that firsthand because, uh,
I got two kids and life for me, and I'm
sure many of you out there can relate it. It's
different when you have a kid. You you live two lives,
the life you had before you became a parent in
the life that you have after. And I can't even
really relate to the life that I used to live.
I enjoyed it, right, it was fun, But it's I
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always say the you you develop, at least I hope
you do, and I know many do, but unfortunately some
I'm sure don't. You develop a level of selflessness that
you never knew existed when you when you instantly become
a parent, and uh, you know, there's a lot that
comes with it stress, uh, of course, costs, we all
know that, and there are a lot of emotions that
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come with it. It's a roller coaster, but none of
that can even come close to matching the great and
the joy that comes with uh, with being a dad
and really just being a parent overall. And one of
the things you do when you're about to become a
parent is you decide, and and that's something we've discussed
a little bit throughout the morning, and we'll do it
again right now for those just joining us. So we've
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got some new data as far as the top five
baby names boys and girls uh this year. So boys, Liam, Noah, Oliver, Theodore,
and Henry traditional names. I was gonna say that that
tells you that the traditional, the the the the names
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that I don't think we'll ever have an expiration date,
like a Henry, like a Oliver. I feel like did
have a way. There were no Oliver's when I was
growing up as far as kids near my age range,
But now I know of many that are Oliver or Ali.
But then there's you know, the John's, the Williams, Thomas.
Those aren't going anywhere. Those those are here to stay forever.
So but then there's other names that kind of went away,
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and we'll talk about that is a second. But the
girls names that are that are popular here this year,
the top five Olivia, Charlotte, Emma, Amelia, and Sophia. And
I'm I can tell you that I know, oh people
who have a daughter that four of those father are covered.
I know I know somebody that's got in Olivia. I
know somebody that's got an Emma, an Amelia, and a Sophia.
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I don't know as Charlotte, but I'm sure if I
gave it some thought, I might realize, oh, yeah, I
know somebody who has a daughter named Charlotte. So all those,
all those check out before we dive into the names
that are that are going away, that are that are endangered.
Right now, how did you and your wife come up
with the names for your kids? Interesting?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
My wife had to say in the first one, and
I was too young. I went along with it. I
wasn't necessarily a fan of it, but I went along
with it, and then we kind of mutually came to
a second agreement.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
For my son.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I thought of that one, so she thought of my
daughter's name. I thought of my son's name, and you know,
we just kind of met them. Yeah, we were in
the middle.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Now, what about like, was there more pushback for you
with her and the girl name or vice versa, vice versa.
She had a hard time. You know.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
I came up with with Brogan for my my son's name,
and he's Brogan Patrick Fitzgerald.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
That's a good name. That's a good that's a good
you know, it's not it's not insanely rare, but it
is rare, right, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
And then only later to find out my my nerdy cousin,
who's a he's a Civil War buff. He goes, you know,
you know that that brogm was a shoe in the
Civil War, and I'm like, oh man, I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Like, you had to go there.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
But what we did find out was my son's name though,
And we did find because at the time Aiden, every
kid in my son's class was named Aiden. Everybody went yeah,
Aiden had a run Yeah. And so then we found
out that not only Brogen was one of those unisex names,
and so we started seeing more girls name broken, but
we're starting to see the name Brogan up here more.
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And that I felt pretty good about it because I
didn't at the time, that was totally thought of by me.
I didn't know that was going to be a name
that most folks use. But regardless, you know, I stand
right there with you, Nick as a parent on the
backside of this now, with a daughter who's now a
teacher and a son who's going to graduate next year.
You just want your kids to grow up and be
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better human beings. You want them just to be good people.
And when you look back, I look at all the
things that you know, and you know this. John Alden's
knowing this, John Shannon's finding this out, the things you sacrifice,
the superhuman powers you dig deep to find within yourself
when you're a parent.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
You don't appreciate that till you are a parent.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
And now I thank my mom, and I've kind of
reconciled with my pops and thanked him for everything he's
went through.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
And that's the beauty of parenting.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
And now on this Father's Day, I didn't speak to
my dad for a while, and now I call him
on Father's Day and we talk here and there. And
it was only after I had kids in my own
that I started to realize that.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
So when you and I mean just anybody listening. When
you're celebrating your dad or even your you know, your
mom can fit in there too. Thank them if they
didn't give you an awful name, because you have no
control over it. It's something that you know. It's the
I think a lot of times when we're young, especially
for good reason, Like your parents do control you. They
make decisions for you because you're a child. You don't
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know any better. But the one thing that you'll never change,
unless you do decide to get a legal name change
is the name that they that they choose to give you.
And sometimes there are names that last a while because
of they just like there's a lot of like for example,
John William Alden, our producer. He's the third or fourth right, Yeah,
so like there's a good chance that if he has
a son, they're probably gonna go with that, and you know,
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and there's that's just one of those names that are
that will never go away. But then there's the others
like a Gary or a Hubert or a or a
Nigel that used to be used to be popular to
an extent, but like in recent decades it's almost become
completely extinct. I mean, you just don't meet many people like,
when's the last And again there's I think the name
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and I don't know if there's any dad out there,
but the woman name, the female name that will probably
die first is Karen. Because one, it's just before before
being a Karen became a thing, it already wasn't a
common name, like there was no I can't think of anybody,
you know, I'm almost forty years old. There's nobody that
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was within the age range of me growing up, whether
it was somebody that was a little bit younger than
me or somebody that was, you know, five six years
older than me. I didn't know anybody named Karen. I'm
sure they existed. Sure, But here we are, you know,
twenty five thirty years later, forty years later, if you will,
and they're like that that name by the you know,
by the time I call it, I call it a life,
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and I'm my time on earth is done in that year,
whenever it may be. Let's say it's when I'm eighty
years old. Wouldn't shock me if there's not a single
person named Karen or maybe Bernard Bernie.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
You know, it's really cool is if you go to
the Social Securities website, you can look up the top
baby names by decade, and what's really interesting is if
you go to the beginning of the century, the nineteen hundreds,
three most popular boys' names, John, William and James.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, those are never going away. Mary Helen will always
be alive, and well Mary, Helen and Margaret were in
the uh, we're for the girls.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
But then you go to say, like, just go to
the sixties for example, Michael, David and johnow By, Lisa,
Mary and Susan. I mean, it's just interesting to see
how the names change, but yet somehow come back to those.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah, my name, I think my name and Nicholas okay,
And I feel like it's not super common, but it's
certainly not rare, probably more on the common side than
the rare side. Given what, you can really name your
kid anything you want. But yeah, the uh, the the
name that I have now and I don't know if
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this is still the case, but now, if you name
your kid Nicholas, at some point in recent years there
was data that showed that you're more likely to call
it Nico than Nick, which interesting me is again I
understand as far as like Nicolas Nico, and in fact
I spell my name every day without a letter that
(23:48):
actually exists on my birth certificate, which is the K.
The CA is not really there, so I guess I
could go by Nic. But nonetheless, like that just tells
you there's always things changing with names to where people
do choose Nicholas, maybe they go by Nick if that's
the case. Like if if we ever had another child
and it was a boy, and I would never push
for it, but my wife wanted to have a junior,
I would not call him Nico, call him Nick. But
(24:10):
maybe he'll be the maybe he'll be the odd ball
in school if he was to get to that age.
Did you always have Nick?
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Like did it start in kindergarten? Were you always Nick?
Or did you start out as Nicholas and it transformed
into Nick.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
There was always people even until like people that like
my grandmothers that aren't here anymore, they would call me Nicholas. Okay,
my mom would call me Nicholas when she was mad
at me. And I do remember, like I can remember
cause it stood out as I didn't really it was
odd to me, but watching like home videos when I
was a little bitty kid, maybe even like a toddler,
I don't think Nick was said. It was just Nicholas
(24:43):
and then at some point I became Nick and that's
that's all she wrote. So all right, let's get to
an update on Travick and weather. What we're gonna do
here on the other side, we're gonna hear from you.
It's the talk back line. We'll let you guys sound off.
Just click on the microphone button, share whatever you want.
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