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November 20, 2025 • 17 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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because nobody's clogging up the line if they can just
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about Thorton's appreciate them. All right, So last night was
the CMAS and I would say of all the genres
of music out there, country is one that that I
that I have listened to more than probably any I'm
a real nerd for nineties country and I think I've

(01:28):
expressed that and shared that with you guys before. But
obviously those artists from the nineties they're they're they're not
winning CMA Awards. But the fifty ninth annual CMA Awards
was last night and the Entertainer of the Year Lanie Wilson.
She's hit a level of fame that you cannot even
be a country music fan and probably know who she is.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Is that fair to say, John, Yeah, I'm familiar with her. Yeah,
I mean she's somebody who doesn't listen to country.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
She's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
I will say.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
I've always had some some suspen that her accent is
a little much like it's it's a little too like
she embellishes it a little bit to sound more country.
I don't know, uh, and that just that was always
kind of a turn off for me. But you know,
as someone I'm not out on her. I just you know,

(02:17):
I don't I wouldn't call myself a big fan, but
you know what, she's doing just fine without me leading
her fan club because she's I mean, she's she's great
Entertainer of the Year, very very talented. And then Cody Johnson,
he won Male Vocalist of the Year. He's uh, he's awesome.
I think he's actually going to be in Louisville coming
up before the next few months.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
He's doing at the Young Center.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, and I'm going to that and I my friends,
a couple a couple of different couples that my wife
and our friends with are going and asked if we
wanted to go, and we said, why not. The there's
other artists there too that are really good. I think
one of them is Riley Green, who my wife really likes.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Also doing a show here in the next few months.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
So Ella Langley is she? She was, I guess, the
breakout award winner. She had three different Song of the Years,
Single of the Year, in Music Video of the Year,
and one of those was a collaboration with Riley Green
you Look Like You Love Me. Knowing now that I
see the title, I know that song, I'm not you
could have we could have had John Shannon open the

(03:16):
door and say, nick Ella Langley's here to see you today.
And I don't think I would have that. Wouldn't I
would have said who, like I wouldn't. I don't know
who that is? So and I don't bring that up
to mock her by any means. But I now, more
than ever, am often reminded and very well aware that
I'm disconnected from like what is considered like you know,
what's really who's got the momentum, who's got the buzz

(03:37):
when it comes to music of any genre. And I
think part of it is just because I don't. I'm
not I'm not seeking out music a whole lot. I
mean music is awesome. I mean I listened to it
whenever I'm at the gym, and you guys can probably
make fun of me when it comes to music. That
I'm listening like right now, not as we speak, but
you know, if I am going to be listening to
music today, you know what, I'm listening to Christmas music
because that's you know, that's just that's that's me.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
So everybody's different.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Everybody has their own preferences and the way we have
evolved as far I guess the way the music industry
has evolved it is I mean, you can you could
find anything. I mean, the ways in which you can
consume music is crazy to wear regardless of what you like,
you should you should be able to find something that
that and it may be mainstream stuff like this, or

(04:21):
it may be stuff that's you know, more obscure. So yeah,
the the other big names, Zach Top he won New
Artist of the Year, and he's somebody that I'm I'm
well aware of just because he's exploded. Like, he's somebody
that I believe was recently at the Young Center and
again I knew he had a lot of momentum, but
for him to have a I mean, he was the

(04:41):
headliner at the arm which that speaks to And I
don't say that because the Young Siner gets only big
big names. I just mean that's somebody that was already
having a headline tour for arenas of this capacity, and
I feel like some other artists it would it took
years to get there, like for example, like lou Combs
is there now, but I mean there's.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
More of a slow bill. Yeah. Yeah, So like.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Luke Comb's you know his he was in Evansville and
that was like the I feel like, you know that
that was sort of the type of city. Not that
Evansville is a bad city, but you know, he's now
doing the stadium's NFL stadiums and he'll sell him out
because that's how big he is. But yeah, Zach Tops
seemed to like because it's not some would call it niche,
but like I think what people are realizing what maybe

(05:24):
the industry would at times labels niche, you realize, not
really a niche. Like there's a lot of more people
than you realize that relate to that, that really like it.
Because there was clearly an emphasis for a while that
you don't just need to have the sound and the
creativity as an artist. You've got to have the look hey,
look that still matters now. But there's some artists that
that have I guess been able to prove that I

(05:46):
may not be the prettiest looking thing, but I'm really
good at what I do, and some people only care
about that. And I'm not saying that about Zach top
but Luke Combs says, and I'm not, you know, I'm
not making any any judgment on his personal appearance. But
he has shared that story often, how he would write
songs and be told, yeah, just ain't gonna work well.
The three songs that he auditioned to record executives on

(06:07):
multiple occasions, all of them went number one, not an exaggeration,
and that that that's I think further proof that you
may not like the look, but if if he's got
the sound, that's really all the matters. Some other names
from last night, the female vocalist he's mentioned, Landy Wilson,
the vocal duo. How about this, I was wrong. I

(06:27):
lied to you. I said, you know, the legends from
the nineties, they're not winning anymore. How about Brooks and
Done still getting it done winning vocal duo of the Year.
I'm going to see Morgan Wall and John Did you
know that?

Speaker 3 (06:38):
No?

Speaker 2 (06:38):
I didn't that.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I mean we're going to go I think to we're
going to Indy to see him in the spring, and
and it'll be a good time with my wife. She
she's she's been to a couple of his concerts already,
but where she got me all in to say, heck y,
how we're going. Brooks and Done is going to be
there with them. So that's why I'm going co headliner.
I think I think they're opening for him. I think, yeah, Morgan, Morgan.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Wallace, he does have he's had the juice for a
while now, he's.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Got it and he's not he's he's not slowing down.
He's he's rare when it comes to just how how
popular he is. All right, quick break, don't go anywhere,
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looking forward to our daily chat with mister O'Neill. It

(07:25):
is coffee and Company, and we are fueled by Thornton's.
So we have the September job report that has finally arrived.
But October's will well will never It'll never exist. It's
going to vanish from history and that's because that's because
of the government shutdown. So these are these are of
course notable and important updates. But this government shut down,

(07:47):
I think there were many things that we didn't realize
would be impacted until you know it was impacted. So yeah,
the uh, this forty three day shutdown, I mean it
rows every piece of economic data that we track. So
that's one of the things that we did discuss in

(08:07):
one of our recent conversations with Jill Sleshinger, just because
you know, when you make projections and you're you know,
you can be out on analytics and data, meaning you
just don't value it as much as others, but it exists,
it's real, it's not opinion based, and when it comes
to trying to project the economy, that data is important
and it will never know when it comes to just

(08:28):
what what what what October looked like. So one thing
that that that I continue to see just different surveys
that show what employees how how they're dealing with certain things.
I mean, I can't think of what we talked about.
I can't think what it was called, but it was
essentially where your employer is freezing you out, and I
know there's a there's an.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Actual it was revenge quitting, wasn't it.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Well, no, that was one, okay, and that's one that
I don't even like I get to me quitting in
a way, like what's your revenge? I mean, like I
just I don't know if you're quitting and it's because
you're seeking revenge, you know. To me, it's just I
couldn't quite understand those who participated in that survey. You
know what you how are you getting revenge if you're

(09:12):
quitting your job? Like you think they're going to miss
you that bad? Well, fair enough, but also like I
don't know, like what's the payoff for you just knowing
that maybe they miss you. Maybe that's the internal satisfaction
that you're seeking. But there was one that described where
companies will make it really easy for you to just
walk away. They'll make you seem less of a priority.
You know, you're not needed as much, or maybe they'll

(09:35):
they'll decide, yeah, it's been five years since we've adjusted
our policy and you've made some lifestyle changes. You moved away,
but yeah, need you to come back to the office.
We're getting rid of remote work being a thing. So again,
there's a way there's a way in which they described it,
but just things that companies are doing to where you
walk away, they don't have to worry about any kind
of severance, any kind of you know fight. They they

(09:58):
very delicately make your job job so you know, difficult
for you for a variety of reasons, or maybe they
just show that they don't value you to where you
want to move on. Uh, And that that's a real thing,
that that's that's certainly growing. And the reason the only
reason I bring this up is because if that was
the case, I mean, I think people are going to
more so now read the room and realize, yeah, this,

(10:20):
I can see what they're doing. But one can I
find a job that would even be you know, close
to what I'm doing now? And look, some people can,
you know, I don't act like it's impossible for somebody
to go find a job that is the same or
maybe even better than what they have. You just you know,
everybody's situation is different. But I also do know people
that have left a job because they just felt they
felt that they needed to before they get canned. And

(10:41):
that's probably what that employer wanted. And what they've realized
is that it's not as easy to go find something
right now that that is uh, you know, that is
that's what you were making, you know right now. Those
of you that can can afford and justify a job
change and a salary reduction, good for you. But I
feel like those that can do that seems to be

(11:02):
it seems to be less of those folks out there
than there have been in a long long time. But again,
the economic so it's tough for me economist economists, economists, economist, yes,
good once I got slipped up with legislative legislative session
saying that too fast. Now I'm just in my own head.

(11:23):
But anyways, there's fifty thousand jobs added in September, better
than August, which was very weak at twenty two thousand.
So there was growth there into uh, into September, but
October we'll never know. All right, quick time out tracking
and weather updates on the way. A sports update as
well right here at news Radio eight forty whas all right,
final segment for us here at news Radio eight forty

(11:45):
WHS before we hand it off to Tony and Dwight.
Nick coffee, that's me and I've got the Johns with me.
John Shannon and John Alden. So have you guys heard
of jack potting? I heard when I say a couple
pulled off a heist use jackpotting. Any clue what that means? No,
I'm happy to tell you. So thieves in Fairfax County, Virginia,

(12:07):
they pulled off something that is really, I guess, right
out of a heist movie. But they were able to
drain an ATM of one hundred and seventy five thousand
dollars without inserting a card, entering a pen, or even
touching the screen. So police say this is part of
a high tech crime wave called jackpotting, where hackers force
ATMs to spit out cash basically like a broken slot machine.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
And the FBI has been warning people about this for
a long time now. It was a real rarity. But
at first, I guess appeared on their radar back in
twenty eighteen. And now the criminals are one step ahead
and they figured out a way to do it. And
first thing that comes to mind for me, one, hackers
are really smart. They're good at what they do, and

(12:51):
that's something you always got to be mindful of. But also,
and ATM has one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars
cash in it.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
I want to know where that ATM's at.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
I just would have assumed that an eight wouldn't be
able to carry nearly that much cash. But also as
someone who's never held a lot of money visually looking
at a lot of cash. Of course, it all depends
on what kind of bill we're talking about here, but
you know, one hundred and seventy five cash to me
instincts that are like, oh, that'd be we'd fill up
this room, and really it wouldn't be that way at all.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Small duffelback, you could get away with that much.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
I've always worried and wondered, like when I go to
an ATM, like what if I've been at a bar
or something and it's one of those ones that has
the little Wi Fi and ten on it where it
relies on the Internet to connect to get you to
connect to your bank and get your cash and everything.
I'm surprised it hasn't happened before with those because it'd
be so easy to hack.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
The Wi Fi system.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
So it sounds like the real vulnerability is those that
are still running on a very old operating system. So
I haven't heard of Windows XP in a long time,
and apparently there are still some that operate on a
Windows XP and that makes them vulnerable.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
I actually ran across one. It's been about five years ago.
There was still running on IBMOS two warp.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I don't even know what that is. So you're speaking
a foreign language.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Now, what was the first Windows operating system that you remember? John?
Is it it was Windows nineties? Actually, no, you were
born in ninety seven.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, I was born in late nineties.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
I remember Windows ninety five. That was kind of the
first to where I just I remember like knowing that
that's what that was.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
An operating system. But yeah, they've been.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Around a lot longer than that.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Windows for work Groups three point one one?

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Is that a real one? That's a real Okay you
could be just making them up and.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
No, no, no, no, that is that is? That is
one from from the early nineties. It's it's pre Windows
ninety five. They went from Windows three point whatever to
Windows ninety five to compensate for what they thought was
going to be the disaster that was Y two.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
K Okay, Yeah, I do remember the coverage of that
and technology is the one thing that if we if
we slow down and really take our time to reference
what things looked like in the way things were from
a technological standpoint just a couple of years. Three years ago,
you would re realize how rapid that stuff changes. And

(15:02):
there's no this is this isn't necessary. I guess this
is more Internet. But if you just go look at
what a website looked like five years ago, a website
that you frequent, you would feel like you went back
in town thirty years.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Oh yeah, or even some of the web browsers.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
I mean, I was always a big fan of Netscape Navigator,
but I mean when you look at how that was
or Internet Explorer four compared to what they are now,
it's amazing. And you talk about the technology lead three
years ago, who was really talking about AI the way
we talk about it now? And it was in our
everyday life. Now fast forward three years, it's in every conversation,
in every aspect of our life.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
No doubt.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Another thing that comes to mind is just the latest
and greatest with cell phones. You can have a cell
phone that was taking pictures in twenty sixteen, and you know,
it looks as if it was taken on an old
polaroid or something, and at that time, we thought we
had the because.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Again megapixel or you're facing phone.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
It was latest and canadist at that time. But the
latest and greatest is a constant, constantly updated thing and
we all benefit from it. But it also just makes
you feel like things are going by way too fast.
But last thing, on this jackpotting hack that's going on.
There's been some criticism from the banking industry because they
don't really discuss it. But you're kind of in a

(16:15):
tough spot there because if your financial institution, I mean,
the last thing you want to do is have their
have customers lose confidence in those machines and whatnot. But again,
this has become a thing to where people are gonna
find out about it, regardless of banks and cracking uns
want them to know or not, just because the nature
of what we're dealing with here. So yeah, I mean,
it's one thing to I mean, I remember the story

(16:36):
that I covered before I was even in this side
of it, I was doing sports, but I was so
fascinated by a heist of an ATM where somebody attached
they attached an ATM to the back of their pickup
truck and drove away with it. And got away. And
I've always wondered, did they ever crack that thing open?

Speaker 3 (16:54):
I feel sure they probably did.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
I mean, it would be difficult to do, but I'm
sure if you were persistent, you could find a way.
All Right, we're out of here. Tony and White coming
your way. Next to news Radio eight forty wh as
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