(KMN) 7.16: Unsealed - Hour 2

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's get the six am hour started here on a
wet Wednesday morning. Happy hump day, Kentuckyana. It is Kentuckyanah's
Morning News with Coffee and Company on News Radio eight
forty whas Nick Coffee, that's me. You just heard John Shannon.
We'll have Scott Fitzgerald back for another sports update in
about twenty minutes. And of course John Alden the company
made himself. He's alongside and John, you know this about me?

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You know me well, we've known each other for a
couple of years. But the audience here, listeners there, they're
probably learning about me a little bit along the way.
And I haven't talked a whole lot about it. I
know it's come up at least a couple of times
since I've been in this position taken over for Tony Cruz.
But I am the father of two children, and my daughter, Maya,
she is nine years old, and she is she has

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autism and she is intellectually disabled. So think of a
nine year old who on an intellectual level is closer
to three. And I knew eventually there'd be stories that
would come up to where I'd have to kind of
navigate best I can without you know, just got to

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do my job, but also not let sort of my
situation change how this stuff maybe should be discussed. But
I'll just be me and be honest and be transparent
as best I can. So yesterday's news of I mean,
it's just a tragic situation all the way around, where
a five year old boy goes missing and again an
ian alert was issued. And for those who don't know

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what a n EAN alert is, which, by the way,
what are the chances that a year after that became
a thing. I mean, it's just insane. The one year
anniversary of the ian alert system is when is when
it was used. And then of course they later found
this young boy deceased. So yeah, it started Tuesday morning

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where everybody I'm sure got the alert on their phone,
and not that long after they found this young boy.
This young boy Silas from Hart County, Kentucky. He passed away.
So at ten fifteen they confirmed that he'd been found dead.
This the area where he's from is in Hart County, Kentucky.
Cub Run is the community and it's not too far
from Mammoth Cave. But the system is modeled after the

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Amber Alert and it's tailored to quickly locate missing individuals
with cognitive or developmental disability so that that I am
the father of somebody who is who? And so when
I learned of this Ian alert being in place, I mean,
I thought to myself, Okay, this is great, this makes
total sense because there are and my daughter maybe visual

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and I don't and I don't care at all because
it doesn't matter to me. But I don't know if
many people without any interaction would know that she is
intellectually disabled just because you know, you don't know. So
I think having a specific alert in place for those
I mean that, I think that's I mean, I love it.
I think it's great. And I'm somebody that is sensitive

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to one the R word just because of you know
it just the thought, you know, just the thought of
as a parent, your kid being teased and being called
that it just it it kills me. So I'm also
sensitive to those that were probably complaining about and again
I get it, like I don't hold it against people.
If you know, I'm not trying to make anybody feel bad.
If you were annoyed by that loud alarm yesterday and

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you just felt like, why are they doing this? You know,
kind I turn this off, like I get it, like
you're just you know, you're you're caught up in your
own world and you're not and you know I understand,
but also will never not use the platform I have
here to to share that that it, you know, because
I think more than anything, it's not about the world
being insensitive and being jerked. It's just if they knew

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and if you if they were exposed to people who
do have children of their special needs, then maybe they
would have a little bit more awareness and maybe they
would make their children more aware of people being different
and whatnot. So I just, you know, just a sad
situation all the way around, heartbreaking for this this young
five year old boy to be found to be found dead.
They're not releasing a whole lot of information. There's no

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foul play that is expected. As you heard in the
news update there. KSP has said that in the statement
that we grieve with this family in the community. That
was their quote. So this is new again one year
to the day that this became a system that was
in place, it was used and obviously a terrible ending,
but I think it makes it makes a whole lot

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of sense to have this in place, and it was
named after a young boy named Ian who was a
nine year old with autism who drowned in twenty twenty
two after running away. So, and everybody's situation is different,
and I've learned that over the years. So there's so
many different ways and levels of autism. So everybody's different. However,

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being around a lot of other special needs kids, whether
it be the Miracle League baseball league that my daughter
plays in, or her class at school, there are kids
that just can end up, you know, off and in
and again, we don't know exactly what happened with this
young man Silas, but you know, I think putting this

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alart in place to let everybodyway, hey, there's there's there's
a child out there that that from a from a
cognitive standpoint, Uh they they you know, let's give you
an example. If we're not monitoring my if we're not
keeping an eye on our daughter in certain situations, I
don't you know, it's rare for her to just kind
of wonder off. But she wouldn't have the capacity mentally
to like understand, Okay, there's there's a car coming, I

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need to move just things like that. So you know,
the more things we do to advocate for special needs children,
obviously I'm all for. And the more we can educate
people as to why these things are in place, uh is,
I mean, it can only help. But yeah, just I
just one are the chances that a year after this
is in place, that it's used and just a tragic outcome.
So thoughts and prayers with not only the family of

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this of this young boy, but also just that community.
Just sad situation all the way around. But again, if
you're somebody that was annoyed by those those alerts that
go off, also the amber alerts that go off, like
I get it, I understand, but if you just for
like a millisecond, stop and think about sort of I'm
not even asking you to put yourself in the shoes
of those people, but just if you consider why that

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is in place, I think you'd be a real be
a real scumbag to think that like that that's not
worth having. It is worth having and it could help
save lives. And obviously that didn't happen yesterday, but it
doesn't change the fact that this is something that is
needed and I'm happy that it exists. But yeah, just awful,
awful situation. Heartbreaking in Heart County. All right, let's get

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an update on traffag and weather. Also what I want
to talk about on the other side, I did some research,
believe it or not, folks, I prepare for this show,
and I found a really good breakdown of where Louisville
compares with other cities in different things as far as
demographic average income, that kind of stuff. And I think

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some of these findings were surprising to me. Maybe they'll
be surprising. We'll get to that and a lot more again,
traving weather updates come in your way. Another update of
sports on the way in about fifteen minutes or so
right here on New's Radio eight forty whas. So, there's
new evidence that has come from unsealed court documents following
the Crystal Rogers murder trial, of course, that led to

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her former boyfriend Brooks Howt and his accomplice being convicted
found guilty. And I think it's really just a no
brainer if you have followed this and heard some of
the things that were said right after the guilty verdict
last week, that this is likely not over and if
law enforcement, if they've got if, if they've got anything to

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say about it, they'll probably they're not gonna leave this alone.
There's gonna be more. I mean, the reason that Brooks
Hawk's brother Nick and his mother Rosemary Hawk were listed
as co conspirator unindicted co conspirators is because there's clearly
some evidence they have that suggest that they were involved,
now enough to actually bring formal charges. That kind of
stuff that remains to be seen, but it certainly wouldn't
shock me. And if you are Rosemary Hawk or Nick Hawk,

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I imagine you probably are pretty you've probably been worried
for years about that. But what we now know after
the core documents have been unsealed, it's again it's just
more so focusing on mother and brother. They weren't just bystandards,
they were again co conspirators allegedly in the plot to
take this woman's life. So in some of this stuff,

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I feel like is what we could have already knew.
But Rosemary Hawk, Brook's mother, she showed Zero's cell phone
activity from June sixteenth to August fourth, so the timeframe
when Rogers disappeared. Prosecutors of course say that's because she
was using a different phone, a burner phone, which apparently
law enforcement was never able to recover. So again not proof,

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but highly suspicious. No cell phone activity from your actual phone,
and you had a burner and nobody knows where it is.
And of course the behavior from Nick Hawk turning his
phone off for over twenty four hours around the time
Rogers vanished and didn't come home that night. His girlfriend,
of course, she testified that that was unusual and very
out of character for him to just not be reachable
and not have his phone. But he also called Brooks

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during that police interviews, as you know, and was urging
him to stop talking. And I mean, that's, honestly, that's
evidence of obstruction more than anything. But yeah, I know,
despite them still being free as of right now, I
bet they're nervous and I would be too if I
was them. All Right, we got an update of tracking
and weather coming your way. I'm sure there's some stoppages

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out there. In fact, I just saw what looked to
be a traffic jam on our screen in front of
us here from the Woky Morning News, and I didn't
see where it was, but I'm sure Bobby Ellisa get
you updated. Also, we'll get an update on the forecast.
In sports, we'll talk some sports coming up with Scot
Fitzgerald right here on news radio eight forty whas. Thank
you very much, John Shannon. It is six thirty five
here on a Wednesday morning, a wet Wednesday. To get started,

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I said this at the beginning of our show when
we got started at five am, that those of you
that don't set your alarm clock as early as we do,
you probably had an alarm clock go off anyway with
the thunder. I don't know, and I'm sure it's different everywhere,
and I feel like, for whatever reason, recently there's been
more examples of you could be within a few miles
of someone here in Louisville and they could have much

(10:17):
different conditions outside than you have. But anyhow, the wet
roadways has caused some traffic this morning, so just be
advised and we'll get another update on that traffic coming
up here in about four minutes or so. But again,
it's nasty to get the day started, all right. So
we found out another update on what happened at the
Exposition Center on Sunday with Kentucky Kingdom and the Exposition

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Center where the basketball tournament was going on, having reports
of an active aggressor law enforcement showing up to of
course deal with that the way that they that they do. Clearly,
there was real fear with everyone, and it's great to
know that there was no danger. Nobody had a gun,
and really nothing actually happened other than panic and chaos
spreading like wildfire. And I believe that that's more than anything,

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just a product of we now know of it that
that happens. I mean, it happens seemingly more often than
it ever has as far as just those type of
things where somebody shows up with a gun and start
shooting people. So what we heard yesterday was that a
ceiling tile fell from the from the seal from the
ceiling onto a metal chair, and at the same time

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that happened, there was a woman with a medical emergency,
and those two things happening that combo essentially led to
people just panicking, and again it spread like wildfire as
far as just everybody assuming the worst, because you can
never take those things lightly and that's a scary situation.
So now what we know is that it wasn't a
ceiling tile that fell, and we may never find out

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what actually happened yesterday. Mary Greenberg did say that the
information regarding a ceiling tile falling and creating a loud
noise hitting a metal chair is just not accurate. That's
not what actually happened. So right now we do you
know that The Kentucky Venues later confirmed that our fire
alarm did go off inside parts of the building that
was triggered by a duct smoked sensor, but clarified that

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the system only alerts for smoke, not other emergencies. But again,
people that are there don't know that, meaning if they
hear a fire alarm going off and that's happening around
the same time for some reason, there was somebody thinking
that there was an active aggressor and maybe somebody had
a gun. That's how it turns into you know, it
goes from zero to one hundred quickly as far as
just panic, but there's no clear cause and LMPD is

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acknowledged they may never pinpoint what caused the initial panic,
but emphasized how quickly, again, fear of a shooting can
spark that kind of chaos. On the talkback feature yesterday,
there were people acknowledging that, wait, a second ceiling tile,
there's no ceiling tiles to fall, and they were right,
So just an unfortunate random situation more than anything. All right,

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before we get to our next update on traffic and weather,
I mentioned this a moment ago. I've got a breakdown
here that tells us what Louisville, who Louisville compares to
as far as other cities when it comes to certain
things like demographic, population, growth, industry. And I'm going to
roll through a handful of these throughout the morning here,

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and we'll start with Louisville who they're most comparable with
when it comes to cost of living. Wouldn't have guessed this,
but good info. Oklahoma City very similar housing costs, groceries, transportation,
and healthcare both are ten percent below the US average.
And when it comes to the overall the overall cost

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of living, Louisville is about four point six percent cheaper
than Oklahoma City when excluding rent costs. When it comes
to the let's see, there's another data, another piece of
data here that says Louisville is zero point six percent
less expensive overall when it comes to housing. It says
here that the Best Places, which is a platform that

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look this kind of stuff, when it comes to housing costs,
they indicate that Louisvill's housing costs are a significant driver,
about twenty three to twenty five percent higher than in
Oklahoma City. So when it comes to food and groceries,
they're both very comparable as far as what the cost
of that is. So I would never think of okac
as a city that I would compare Louisville to. And

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again maybe that's the only comparison, meaning cost of living,
but I don't really know. I guess if I've never
been to a city, it's tough for me to say
what I would compare if I've never been there, Its
hard for me to say what I've compared to obviously
because i'n't experienced it. But I think most people around
here that group that have been born and raised in Louislle,
and maybe you haven't visited a lot of other cities

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similar to Louisville. I mean, Cincinnati to me has always
felt like a city that is that is very similar
to us in a lot of ways. They're bigger than
we are, and they clearly have pro sports teams, and
you know, we obviously don't other than the Racing Louisville Club.
But again, we'll get to some of these throughout the morning,
because I think it may surprise you which cities are

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similar to Louisville in different you know, in different factors, lifestyle, culture,
crime rate. So I've always heard Portland, Oregon is similar
to Louisville, and I've never been to Portland, and I
can tell you of the ten different factors here in
this breakdown, Portland's not listed once. And I don't know,
maybe I'm wrong, but I kind of feel like right now,

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if we were being compared to Portland, I don't think
that would be a compliment, but maybe they would say
the same about us. I don't know, all right. What
I do know is we've got an update of traffic
coming your way with Bobby Ellis, who get us caught
up on what the wet roadways are causing out there
as far as traffic, Mamlosovich with the latest forecast, and
again we'll keep it rolling right here on News Radio
eight forty whis. Maybe it's just me, but it seems

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as if at every step Trump and his team are
fueling more suspicion rather than providing any real transparency to
explain the Epstein's situation with there being no client list
and indicating there's really no conspiracy. That's one aspect of it.
The other is just either trying to speak something into

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existence or just being completely out of touch and unable
to read the room. Because Trump continuing to say that
nobody cares, I mean, he's just clearly wrong. And I
think even if you are somebody that doesn't care and
you believe what has been presented to us as that's
just the way it is, and that's what they determined
and you don't question it at all, even if that

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is where you are, I think you would have to
agree if you try to check the pulls of society
as best we can, that there are clearly many that
don't don't buy it. And I think if you're somebody
that wants to be able to shoot down any conspiracy
theories out there about this situation, I don't think you've
been giving anything that gives you the ability to just say, okay,

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well all right, well that makes sense now, I mean,
nothing really seems to make sense. And another factor is
the video that was released last week, and I am
I'm almost stunned by this because people who you know,
are people that have positions that look at this stuff.
And I'm talking about those that are providing the video
of Epstein and letting us know, Hey, here you go.

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This is proof that nothing happened. When I mean, are
they unaware that or maybe they don't know, maybe they
weren't involved. But the video was edited, and that is
something that with metadata is actually pretty easy to determine.
I mean you can now. I mean there are I
think Wired dot Com is the first to put it
out there, but there's missing minutes in the video that

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was shared according to the metadata and Adobe Premiere Pro,
which is a very common video editor. It's actually the
video editor that I use when I'm editing content, and
it's used by a lot of people. It's probably there's
a lot of different software is out there they can
do that, but I mean, metadata will even tell you

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that what software that it was edited in. So they
called it raw footage, the Justice Department did, but metadata
proves that that's not the case because the video was
stitched together using Adobe Premiere Pro software. It's two clips
that were combined and one was nearly three minutes longer
than what was published. So again there's just more fuel

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of Okay, what's going on here? This doesn't make sense?
Like this screams cover up, And I'm not one to
fake it and act like I'm losing sleep at night,
but I'm becoming more fascinated. But just how deeper they
keep going and making it look almost unbelievable that they're
not covering something up, and not that I'm advocating for

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covering up and doing it better, because you shouldn't cover up.
There's never anything wrong with providing transparency, and maybe they're
trying to spin it that, oh, this is transparency. There's
just nothing that happened. Well, there's a lot of inconsistencies
with the way Trump and his crew are handling this
now in the way they're discussing it compared to just

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mere months ago. So I mean it the video, I mean,
that's proof that's not And what I mean is there's
proof that it was edited. There's proof that it wasn't
raw footage. And I mean, I guess people can still
act like that's not the case, but it is. And
I just if you'd have told me a few weeks

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ago that this would play out this way as far
as them providing raw footage. The Justice Department called this
footage raw and then it being proven that it was not,
I would just, you know, my gut reaction would be okay,
well they're going to have some explaining to do. Somebody's
going to get fired. Clearly, this is like this was
a huge deal, and it's just one of the many
things that continue to make this look clearly as if

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there's something being covered up. And last I checked, who
wants to be the guy or gal or the leader
covering up for people who were involved in a child
sex trafficking ring. I mean, this thing is is continue.
I mean it's only going to get worse as far
as just people demanding transparency and wanting to know what
really happened, what are you covering up and who are

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you covering it up for? But as far as will
we get any update, I don't know that remains to
be seen. All Right, We've got an update of traving
weather coming your way. Also, we'll get to sports with
Scott in about four minutes right here on News Radio
eight forty Whas