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March 13, 2026 18 mins

Wes Miller is out as Head Coach of the Bearcats. Chad discussed the move and what's next from every angle. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Away from five o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Moweger,

(00:03):
Thank you for listening. We'll hook Your weekend is off
to a great start. Kentucky loses to Florida seventy one
to sixty three. Bounced from the SEC Tournament. Wildcats back
in action next week in the NCAA Tournament.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Do you see?

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Bearcats will not be playing in the NCAA Tournament and
Wes Miller is no longer Cincinnati's head coach. This broke
earlier this afternoon, confirmed by our guy Chad Brindle at
Bearcat Journal dot com, who is joining us to start
the show. Chad, first of all, I know it's a
busy day for you, so I appreciate the time. By
the way, Bearcat journal dot com has hot Board one

(00:40):
point zero up right now coaching candidates for the vacancy
at UC and we'll tap into that here in just
a second. I want to start with something that you
and I have talked about occasionally over the last couple
of weeks, including yesterday, and that's you know the fact
that Wes Miller bringing him back for year number six
was always going to be a hard sell to a
lot of a lot of rank and file fans, but

(01:01):
that he did have some allies. He had some allies,
maybe some deep pocketed allies on his side. Were they
won over today and is that why this was done?

Speaker 2 (01:13):
We don't have that answer yet. What I think is
something that we talked about yesterday that ultimately it's John
Cunningham's job that's on the line here, Like that isn't
a cushy it's not cushy, but it's a well paid position.
And if you bring Wes back and it doesn't work,

(01:34):
and you do lose the fan base in the process,
then that's John Cunningham that's going to be on the carpet,
you know, having to answer questions about decisions that he made.
So I'm sure that you know, eighties are partly responsible
for making sure that the people that fund the program

(01:55):
are on board with the decisions that need to be made.
Guess he was able to sell the people, you know,
at the highest donation level that this is a decision
that ultimately, unfortunately needed to be made and that they
had to go forward. But if we find out they've
got a three million dollar roster for next year, then
maybe we have that Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
And I want to go down that road here in
just a bit. How is this separation between UC and
wes Miller going to work financially?

Speaker 2 (02:26):
It's a great question. The the the answers I've gotten
on it so far seem to indicate that Cincinnati is,
if need be, willing to wait until April first, when
the buyout drops, to officially let go wes Miller. That's
not how I would do it, but you know, sometimes
you have to, uh, you have the other party has

(02:49):
to be willing to play ball, and if he's not
willing to negotiate down a lower buyout, or maybe they
are working on the lower buyout. That's what we don't
know is they could be working on on a you know,
a buyout number that's somewhere between the ten and the
four point six with the lawyers right now. Remember u
See didn't announce that wes Miller was fired. This has

(03:10):
gotten out in the media and has been confirmed, but
you see has not made this official. So they could
be in negotiations. From what I know, Wes would like
to find a job this cycle. That's going to be
really hard to do if you're you know, under contract
until April first, or be a little bit more difficult
to do if you're under contract until April first. So

(03:31):
maybe we reach a point over these next two and
a half weeks that it's been official for both and
they come to an agreement and both sides move on.
But it does sound like at least Cincinnati waiting this
out until April first is on the table of possibilities.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
All right, if that ends up being the case, how
do you conduct a coaching search at the same time, Well.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Everybody knows you got a coaching over, right, Like the
hard part is if you're trying to like walk the
line and say, well, we have we don't we have decided,
like the athletic director can still talk to agents, can
still proceed as necessary. Now I don't know. And there's

(04:14):
really no rules for coaches, right, Like you can go
meet a coach, Like you know, there's coaches that are
agreeing to new jobs that are still coaching their old job.
So if John Cunningham wants to go have lunch with
somebody and interview them or talk to them or whatever,
that's there's really the wild lest. There's really no like

(04:35):
restrictions on how you can do that. So that would
that would still be a possibility per se. So does
it make it harder than it needs to be. Yeah,
it probably makes it harder than it needs to be,
but it's not completely out of the realm of possibility.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
In early February, wes Miller seemed like he was a
dead man walking. And then the team surges towards bubble,
they get on the bubble, the bubble is burst on Wednesday.
The way they lost the game on Wednesday, I think
for a lot of folks was a poor reflection of
the coach. How much did the specifics of what was

(05:14):
effectively the season ending loss on Wednesday possibly drive this decision?

Speaker 2 (05:21):
It's had to be a factor, noough, Like if they
win that game and you know, they they play close
with Arizona, and you know, let's say that they don't
make the NCAA Tournament at that point, but they're you know,
they pop up on the screen Sunday as the second
team out of the first team out, and you know,

(05:44):
you went eight and two down the stretch going into
that Arizona game and you felt just short. There's a
path there. I think that Wes Miller would still be
the head coach at Cincinnati and get that opportunity for
the sixth year, had an eight point lead with two
minutes left. You barely got a shot up. Not only

(06:04):
you know and at the end of regulation regulation, but
also the final couple minutes of overtime you couldn't get
a shot up. You you let the house burn down,
like while you were holding the fire hose. You had
three timeouts and you didn't use any of them. Is
that good? I just came up. I like that one
shout the house burned down holding the hose. I think
that's pretty good. But your team is melting down. You

(06:28):
have three timeouts and you just the meltdown happens in
front of your face and an a point lead goes
to tide and the blink of an eye, the optics
were just awful for Wes and for his team. At
that point, you're clinging right like you're clinging to the
opportunity to make the NCAA tournament advancing that goal is

(06:54):
right there and it just completely falls through your hands.
That that that had to be a doctor in John
Cunningham's decision.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
On a macro level. Why did the west Miller era
not work? Why did it not work out?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Because he never managed to go from. And then here's
the thing. West isn't a bad coach. Fans get upset.
There's a lot of hyperbole. West Miller's not a bad
basketball coach. He's a top forty, top fifty type basketball coach.

(07:32):
Problem is, in this league, top forty, top fifty is
going to get you right where Wes ended up almost
every year, and that's in purgatory. You're not bad. You
didn't bottom out like Kansas State did this year where
they they're going to have to pay twenty million to
fire your own tang because at one point they were
what two and thirteen in the league, But you weren't

(07:56):
good enough to challenge up into that top six, top
five six group in the league. And so you're fighting
with five six other teams that are right in that
same grouping as you, that are not as good as
the top six, but not as bad as the bottom
three or four. They didn't win enough of those games

(08:18):
against those teams that were peers in the middle of
the pack in the Big twelve, and it happened over
and over. How much different is this conversation if they
don't lose to West Virginia twice this year, or if
they don't lose to a bad Arizona State team on
the road, or Oklahoma State last year, or what that

(08:40):
first year in the Big twelve, they were right there
on the bubble and they lose to an Oklahoma team
that was hurt, guys, missing, dreadful. You know, there were
too many of those things that continued to happen that
kept Cincinnati from being a ten to eleven win Big
twelve team and instead of seven to eight nine win
Dig twelve team, and ultimately that was his downfall. They

(09:03):
were never bad, but they were never good enough. And
five years is I think a fair representation of you
got five years to get your team in the NCAA tournament.
You're well funded, you've got support, mo we talked about
this yesterday. They weren't good this year. At times there

(09:26):
were still ten thousand people in the stands. You've got
great fans support, You've got a tradition rich program. Five
years is a lot of time to make one NCAA
tournament and they didn't do it.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Bearkatjournal dot com right now has a hot board and
you do this whenever there's a UC coaching search, and
you separate coaching candidates possible coaching candidates into certain tiers.
Should Jared Calhoun have his own tier?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Probably? Yeah, I think we're at that point, especially with
the news and look, coaches have agreed to extensions before
and then gone on and coached somewhere else. So we
have not ruled out Josh Shirts at this point. One
because that came out before the Cincinnati job came open,

(10:17):
So we don't know if he has interests in the
Cincinnati job or not. But if he is going to
stay at Saint Louis, I do think Jared Calhoun has
to be all systems go. I think he wants to
be here. I think he really had his eye on
two jobs, one with Cincinnati, one with Pitt. It's not opening,

(10:39):
Cincinnati's open, so he wants to be here. It seems
like the right fit. We don't know if John Cunningham
wants him to be here or not, but we know that,
you know, there's a connection there. He's a UC alumni.
He's coached with Bob Huggins, so there is some you know,
connection to the history. If you see, it just makes

(11:03):
too much sense and really probably should have his own
designation on the hot board until further notice.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
I guess should we assume that whoever the next head
coach is, he will walk into a situation where on
day one he has no players.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
So the interesting thing is mo and yes, assume that that,
Like in a coaching change in college sports, when it
comes to what does it comes to what does the
roster look like? Just assume it's going to be completely gutted,
because that's how the transfer portal era works. This year,
they have made a change. The transfer portal won't open

(11:46):
until April seventh. It used to be that it opened
the Monday after like this coming Monday, and then I
think they moved it to the Monday after the first
and second round, but still it opened very early in
the process. Now it doesn't open until April seventh. If
you get a coach in here on April second, right,

(12:09):
they're going to have five days to meet with the
team and to you know, work on the situation. Now,
what we don't know. Corey Evans, who was brought in
as the GM last year, has a multi year contract.
If he's staying, and I don't know that he is

(12:29):
or not, I don't have that answer yet, But if
Corey Evans is staying, he's going to be able to,
you know, build that connection that he's already got with
a lot of these guys, in terms of who's interested
in staying, who is willing to listen to what the
new coach has to say, who is already out the door.
So you know, if he is sticking around, then there

(12:53):
is a path to the roster sticking together. But in
terms of like what would I anticipate as it stands,
I always anticipate, Yeah, pretty much everybody's gonna be gone.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Would Corey have any say in who the next head
coach is going to be?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Probably not. That's not people here GM and think of
it more as like a pro sports term, like I
think he would be if if he's if he's going
to stick around, I think he'd be consulted. I think
he would definitely be I don't think he would be
ignored in the process. But ultimately, it's John Cunningham's job

(13:27):
that's on the line, right, That's that's where you got
to go, whose job, whose neck is on the line
with the higher John Cunningham's neck is on the line
with the higher So he's gonna he's gonna lean on
his process and and his you know, decision making to
make the higher.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
With with any head coaching vacancy, the question always comes
up about money, and you talk about well funded. That's
the term you used before, and in discussing this program,
folks always guess at what a roster costs, and there's
always conjecture out there, but relatively speaking, compared to their
big twelve peers, a new coach comes in, does he

(14:07):
have at his disposal what will allow him to win,
win soon, and win at a bigger level beyond simply
eking into the NCAA tournament and playing in Dayton, which
was the bar that everybody said for wes Miller this
particular season.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
I would like to think so. I mean they had
a ten million roughly a little bit more, a little
bit less whatever, roughly a ten million dollar roster this year.
That's enough to win like that? Is it the top
number in the conference? No, but it puts you in
the range. And they had two second team All Conference

(14:47):
and an honorable mention All Conference player. And those guys
have more money in their bank accounts than the two
of us and less things, you know, unless they have
put themselves in a terrible position based on firing wes Miller,
and they have to lower that number for a year,

(15:10):
they should be in good position. And I can't imagine
mo like, even if maybe it drops to eight million,
and yeah, you're you're maybe a player or too short,
but you still be able to put a pretty good
roster together. I can't at this point without all the information.
But at this point I have a hard time believing
they would let it get to a point where they

(15:30):
only have five or six million dollars for the roster
to try to compete in the best league in America.
It would make it a very difficult year one starting
point for your new coach.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Do I assume that when or if the Crown or
Nit come calling this weekend, that the school will say thanks,
but no thanks.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Well, the NIT doesn't matter at this point anymore. For Cincinnati.
They are contractually obligated to play in the Crown. It's
apparently seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars to buy out
of that. What I don't know is if there's anything

(16:10):
in there that says, if you know, you get you
get some relief if you make a coaching change. I
can't imagine they play in the Crown this year. I
just have a very hard time seeing them trying to
pull that off. As a coach is on the way out,
a new coach is either just getting involved or or

(16:31):
on the way in. It doesn't make a lot of
sense for Cincinnati to play in that tournament this year.
They are contractually obligated because it sounds like they're going
to take eight Big twelve teams if you include UCF
and TV and Cincinnati's ninth and the top two teams

(16:51):
that don't make the tournament are obligated to go to
the Crown. So so Cincinnati would have that obligation. I
don't know, and I'm hoping to get an answer on
that today or tomorrow, So follow me on social media
for that. But I don't know that they'll have to
pay the money. But there is a seven hundred and
fifty thousand dollars price tag for.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Not going Awesome stuff. As always, no you're busy, check
out Bearcat journal dot com get the latest on west
Miller's departure and the coaching search. Thank you as always, man,
we'll talk soon.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Appreciate it. Thanks.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
All's our guy, I Chad Brendel, Bearcat Journal dot com.
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