March 11, 2026 • 8 mins
Dave “Softy” Mahler is the afternoon host on KJR in Seattle. He joined us to tell us about new Bengals edge defender Boye Mafe.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The bigger mystery is the guy from Seattle, boy A Mafe,
who many have compared to Trey Hendrickson from back in
twenty twenty one. I thought we'd get on somebody who's
watched like every snap of his pro career, Dave Softy
Maler from ninety three to three kjar in Seattle, right
before he goes on the air, kind enough to join
as Softy. What's up?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
My god? Is this working? Did I just hear you
say that people are comparing Boye Mafe to Trey.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hendrick No, no, no, no, no. See from this, from
this perspective, From this perspective, ohank, God, from this perspective.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
No, I haven't laughed that hard in weeks. Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Oh trust me, I got I got a lot of
Bengals takes I can throw you. So when the Bengals
sign Trey Hendrickson, there was this kind of unknown factor
right you looked at the numbers. Might not have been
totally overwhelmed, but they were banking on upside. They were
banking on somebody who, in a different set of circumstances,
might be able to explode. Now, is Boye Mafe going
to lead the league in sacks? Probably?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Not.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Is he going to have a bunch of holdouts? God,
I hope not. But I do think there's compared persons
based on what Trey was in twenty twenty one where
it looks like there's a lot of upside, but we're
still asking questions because it feels like there's still a
lot of unknowns.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, I just look, I'll just say this, first of all, great, dude,
boy A really really good guy not going to be
a problem, you know. I mean all of us have
had issues with athletes making news for the wrong reasons,
and I don't think Boye is going to come anywhere
near that, dude. So you're getting a really good, community,
team minded guy. That's number one. Number two. I will
(01:33):
tell you this, and I kid you not. This is
a true story. There was a point in time, about
halfway through this last Seahawks season, maybe call that week
nine to ten, whatever, where I turned to Dick Fane,
who I do the radio show with here in Seattle,
and I asked him, Dick, does boy A Mafey still
play here? It's like, is he on the roster? Like
(01:54):
what is going on with boy A Mafey? Because boy
A mafe was a guy that we actually thought was
gonna make we have a little bit of a step.
In twenty twenty five under Mike McDonald he had nine sacks,
and twenty three he had six, and twenty four and
then kind of went away. But then we kind of
realized if you watch Mike McDonald's defense, they played kind
(02:15):
of that hybrid three four, right, So guys like Leonard
Williams Chennanewo Sue. If you have a star like Byron Murphy,
obviously he's gonna get his sacks, He's gonna eat a
little bit in the stat sheet. But for the most part,
the edge is about setting the edge, and that's what
Boye Mafey was doing a lot of here in Seattle.
So in some ways you kind of wonder if he
(02:37):
might be better off in a system like Cincinnati. For
as good as Mike McDonald's defense has been, and it
is unbelievable, marvelous defense, the scheme is amazing. I do
wonder if Boye Mafey is gonna flourish somewhere else besides
playing here in Seattle, in the shadow of guys like
Byron Murphy, Leonard Williams Chennanewo Sue and even some guys
(03:01):
in the secondary like Devin Witherspooning, a linebacker like Ernest Jones.
But I'll admit that I was very surprised, man, when
the number came out, twenty million.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I was like, Wow, there's no part of me back
in October or November that thought that boy Mafe deserved
twenty million dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
When the confetti cleared from the Super Bowl parade, did
you guys assume he was he was gone? He taught
Was he already being talked about in the past tense?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah, because what happens is, and you guys know this,
when you play for a Super Bowl or you win
a Super Bowl, everybody's resume looks a little better, right.
I Mean it's like when the Hawks won it in
twenty thirteen, all of a sudden, the Lions came in
and thought that Golden Tate was the Bee's knees. You know,
the Dolphins with guys like Byron Maxwell, and all of
a sudden, they're all getting overpaid. And that's kind of
(03:48):
what's going on right now. I mean, look, you know,
Kenny Walker got fifteen million a year from Kansas City
based on six games right, Like, there was nobody in
mid December before they played the ram was on Thursday
night that thought that Kenny Walker was going to get
fifteen million dollars a year. So once the Hawks won,
everybody who was a free agent, Kobe Bryant, Josh Job,
(04:10):
Kenny Walker, Rashid she Head, dude, Mo Rashid she Heat
didn't even have two hundred yards receiving it in the
nine games he was here in Seattle, and he just
got seventeen million dollars based on what the guy can
do on special teams. So yeah, I think the Hawks
they got six or seven major free agents, and we
(04:31):
figured maybe they'll get one, maybe two.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Of them back when he was on the field, right,
because it felt like, as you kind of outlined the
story of his twenty twenty five was just wasn't on
the field nearly enough when he was on the field
last year, how good was he?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I just was kind of a supplemental, complimentary guy. I mean,
this is a team that has a lot of stars
on it, right, I mean most of those stars were
created by Mike McDonald, Leonard Williams, Devin Witherspoon, Ernest Jones,
Byron Murphy, players like that. I mean, there's no first team,
real consensus all pro guy, although big Cat Leonard Williams
was a first team guy, but outside of him, they
(05:06):
weren't chuck full of you know, all pros. This is
not the twenty thirteen lob right with Bobby Wagner, Richard Sherman,
Earl Thomas, and Cam Chancel. The star of the show
here in Seattle is the scheme, it really is. I
mean it's like they they had a stretch where they
lost three or four guys due to injury starters and
the defense still kicked ass and still was, you know,
taking people down. So Bollia Mafe was never a part
(05:29):
of that group. Right, That was the real reason from
a personnel perspective, why these guys were doing well. He
was always a complimentary guy that it was kind of
like a good baseball umpire man. Nobody really noticed him,
to be honest with you, you know, I wish I
could come on the air and tell you more about
the kind of player he is and how impactful he was.
Every now and then he'll he'll, you know, pat a
(05:50):
pass down every now and then he'll you know, take
up a couple of blockers and open up a blitzing
lane for a guy like Devin Witherspoon, for example. He
saw a lot of that in the Super Bowl. By way,
go back and watch that game. But that's what he
was here in Seattle. He was never a primary guy.
He was never a guy that they would get after
the quarterback with. He was never a guy that could
count on for a consistent pass rush. He was always
(06:12):
a guy that would do things to set up other
players to make plays. And I'm wondering Cincinnati has to
see the speed. Obviously, guys fast got some speed, and
they got to look at him as more than just
a complimentary guy, because otherwise there's no way they're giving
him twenty millions unless they're stupid.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Well that may be the case. I mean, I spent
my entire life wondering why the Bengals do so many
stupid things. But I certainly believe they see the speed
on the upside.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
By the way, I.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Appreciate you saying to me when you major comparison to
the Seahawks and here's what all the players that win,
he said, Oh you know this, Actually I have no idea.
I want to be in your shoes one day, so
I know, I don't know, but thanks thanks for playing
along and pretending that I will.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
You know what it's like, you know what it's like
to participate in a super Bowl. That's why I said
play in one or with one.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Look, there's a lot lot of people who's faced rubbing
the dirt in this business and you're not one of them.
But you know what, you also have a world series,
my friend, and we have no idea what that's all.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I was in the eighth grade, so it almost doesn't count.
But yeah, that's fair. That's fair. Iam got a you
Hainio Suarez from you? That's you know, that's kind of
excited about him.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
No, I was five and a half when the Sonics
won the NBA title, all right, So the Seahawks winning
in twenty thirteen was really my first championship. And yeah,
getting Geno back, man, I mean, hey, good for you guys.
I mean, Gino is a phenomenal guy. But they just
needed to get something more consistent at third base, and
they've got obviously Brendan Donovan as you know, coming in
from the from the Cardinals to take Geno's spot. But
(07:37):
that that home running hit in Game five, man, that
grand slam to right field. Uh, you know, I wish
it meant more. I wish it meant you know, a
trip to the World Series. But at the time, we
thought that grand slam to right field in Game five
may have been the biggest hitting Mariner history, and it
certainly is one of them. But uh, never was able
to materialize into something bigger and better because the EMS
went to Toronto and fell apart for two and now.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Your players are fighting against each other in the World
Baseball Classic. So it's free. You know what.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
That that whole thing got overblown, but big time.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
By the way up, we'll see I know you've got
a show to do, man, Thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
All right, anytime, guys see it
The bigger mystery is the guy from Seattle, boy A Mafe,
who many have compared to Trey Hendrickson from back in
twenty twenty one. I thought we'd get on somebody who's
watched like every snap of his pro career, Dave Softy
Maler from ninety three to three kjar in Seattle, right
before he goes on the air, kind enough to join
as Softy. What's up?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
My god? Is this working? Did I just hear you
say that people are comparing Boye Mafe to Trey.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hendrick No, no, no, no, no. See from this, from
this perspective, From this perspective, ohank, God, from this perspective.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
No, I haven't laughed that hard in weeks. Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Oh trust me, I got I got a lot of
Bengals takes I can throw you. So when the Bengals
sign Trey Hendrickson, there was this kind of unknown factor
right you looked at the numbers. Might not have been
totally overwhelmed, but they were banking on upside. They were
banking on somebody who, in a different set of circumstances,
might be able to explode. Now, is Boye Mafe going
to lead the league in sacks? Probably?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Not.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Is he going to have a bunch of holdouts? God,
I hope not. But I do think there's compared persons
based on what Trey was in twenty twenty one where
it looks like there's a lot of upside, but we're
still asking questions because it feels like there's still a
lot of unknowns.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, I just look, I'll just say this, first of all, great, dude,
boy A really really good guy not going to be
a problem, you know. I mean all of us have
had issues with athletes making news for the wrong reasons,
and I don't think Boye is going to come anywhere
near that, dude. So you're getting a really good, community,
team minded guy. That's number one. Number two. I will
(01:33):
tell you this, and I kid you not. This is
a true story. There was a point in time, about
halfway through this last Seahawks season, maybe call that week
nine to ten, whatever, where I turned to Dick Fane,
who I do the radio show with here in Seattle,
and I asked him, Dick, does boy A Mafey still
play here? It's like, is he on the roster? Like
(01:54):
what is going on with boy A Mafey? Because boy
A mafe was a guy that we actually thought was
gonna make we have a little bit of a step.
In twenty twenty five under Mike McDonald he had nine sacks,
and twenty three he had six, and twenty four and
then kind of went away. But then we kind of
realized if you watch Mike McDonald's defense, they played kind
(02:15):
of that hybrid three four, right, So guys like Leonard
Williams Chennanewo Sue. If you have a star like Byron Murphy,
obviously he's gonna get his sacks, He's gonna eat a
little bit in the stat sheet. But for the most part,
the edge is about setting the edge, and that's what
Boye Mafey was doing a lot of here in Seattle.
So in some ways you kind of wonder if he
(02:37):
might be better off in a system like Cincinnati. For
as good as Mike McDonald's defense has been, and it
is unbelievable, marvelous defense, the scheme is amazing. I do
wonder if Boye Mafey is gonna flourish somewhere else besides
playing here in Seattle, in the shadow of guys like
Byron Murphy, Leonard Williams Chennanewo Sue and even some guys
(03:01):
in the secondary like Devin Witherspooning, a linebacker like Ernest Jones.
But I'll admit that I was very surprised, man, when
the number came out, twenty million.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I was like, Wow, there's no part of me back
in October or November that thought that boy Mafe deserved
twenty million dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
When the confetti cleared from the Super Bowl parade, did
you guys assume he was he was gone? He taught
Was he already being talked about in the past tense?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah, because what happens is, and you guys know this,
when you play for a Super Bowl or you win
a Super Bowl, everybody's resume looks a little better, right.
I Mean it's like when the Hawks won it in
twenty thirteen, all of a sudden, the Lions came in
and thought that Golden Tate was the Bee's knees. You know,
the Dolphins with guys like Byron Maxwell, and all of
a sudden, they're all getting overpaid. And that's kind of
(03:48):
what's going on right now. I mean, look, you know,
Kenny Walker got fifteen million a year from Kansas City
based on six games right, Like, there was nobody in
mid December before they played the ram was on Thursday
night that thought that Kenny Walker was going to get
fifteen million dollars a year. So once the Hawks won,
everybody who was a free agent, Kobe Bryant, Josh Job,
(04:10):
Kenny Walker, Rashid she Head, dude, Mo Rashid she Heat
didn't even have two hundred yards receiving it in the
nine games he was here in Seattle, and he just
got seventeen million dollars based on what the guy can
do on special teams. So yeah, I think the Hawks
they got six or seven major free agents, and we
(04:31):
figured maybe they'll get one, maybe two.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Of them back when he was on the field, right,
because it felt like, as you kind of outlined the
story of his twenty twenty five was just wasn't on
the field nearly enough when he was on the field
last year, how good was he?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I just was kind of a supplemental, complimentary guy. I mean,
this is a team that has a lot of stars
on it, right, I mean most of those stars were
created by Mike McDonald, Leonard Williams, Devin Witherspoon, Ernest Jones,
Byron Murphy, players like that. I mean, there's no first team,
real consensus all pro guy, although big Cat Leonard Williams
was a first team guy, but outside of him, they
(05:06):
weren't chuck full of you know, all pros. This is
not the twenty thirteen lob right with Bobby Wagner, Richard Sherman,
Earl Thomas, and Cam Chancel. The star of the show
here in Seattle is the scheme, it really is. I
mean it's like they they had a stretch where they
lost three or four guys due to injury starters and
the defense still kicked ass and still was, you know,
taking people down. So Bollia Mafe was never a part
(05:29):
of that group. Right, That was the real reason from
a personnel perspective, why these guys were doing well. He
was always a complimentary guy that it was kind of
like a good baseball umpire man. Nobody really noticed him,
to be honest with you, you know, I wish I
could come on the air and tell you more about
the kind of player he is and how impactful he was.
Every now and then he'll he'll, you know, pat a
(05:50):
pass down every now and then he'll you know, take
up a couple of blockers and open up a blitzing
lane for a guy like Devin Witherspoon, for example. He
saw a lot of that in the Super Bowl. By way,
go back and watch that game. But that's what he
was here in Seattle. He was never a primary guy.
He was never a guy that they would get after
the quarterback with. He was never a guy that could
count on for a consistent pass rush. He was always
(06:12):
a guy that would do things to set up other
players to make plays. And I'm wondering Cincinnati has to
see the speed. Obviously, guys fast got some speed, and
they got to look at him as more than just
a complimentary guy, because otherwise there's no way they're giving
him twenty millions unless they're stupid.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Well that may be the case. I mean, I spent
my entire life wondering why the Bengals do so many
stupid things. But I certainly believe they see the speed
on the upside.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
By the way, I.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Appreciate you saying to me when you major comparison to
the Seahawks and here's what all the players that win,
he said, Oh you know this, Actually I have no idea.
I want to be in your shoes one day, so
I know, I don't know, but thanks thanks for playing
along and pretending that I will.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
You know what it's like, you know what it's like
to participate in a super Bowl. That's why I said
play in one or with one.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Look, there's a lot lot of people who's faced rubbing
the dirt in this business and you're not one of them.
But you know what, you also have a world series,
my friend, and we have no idea what that's all.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I was in the eighth grade, so it almost doesn't count.
But yeah, that's fair. That's fair. Iam got a you
Hainio Suarez from you? That's you know, that's kind of
excited about him.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
No, I was five and a half when the Sonics
won the NBA title, all right, So the Seahawks winning
in twenty thirteen was really my first championship. And yeah,
getting Geno back, man, I mean, hey, good for you guys.
I mean, Gino is a phenomenal guy. But they just
needed to get something more consistent at third base, and
they've got obviously Brendan Donovan as you know, coming in
from the from the Cardinals to take Geno's spot. But
(07:37):
that that home running hit in Game five, man, that
grand slam to right field. Uh, you know, I wish
it meant more. I wish it meant you know, a
trip to the World Series. But at the time, we
thought that grand slam to right field in Game five
may have been the biggest hitting Mariner history, and it
certainly is one of them. But uh, never was able
to materialize into something bigger and better because the EMS
went to Toronto and fell apart for two and now.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Your players are fighting against each other in the World
Baseball Classic. So it's free. You know what.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
That that whole thing got overblown, but big time.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
By the way up, we'll see I know you've got
a show to do, man, Thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
All right, anytime, guys see it
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