3/11/26 - The Mo Egger Radio Show - Mo Egger

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Are we sure they have nothing else to say? On
the Kentucky post game show? Are we sure?

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Moeger, ESPN fifteen thirty five, toll four, thank you so
much for joining us. There's a ton going on today,
and this is one of those days where I wish
we had like six hours. We're only basically gonna have two,
But that's okay. We'll make the most of it. Kelsey
Conway is going to join us at four twenty on
the Bengals in free agency and to see if Duke

(00:33):
Tobin and the personnel staff at the venue formerly known
as Paul Brown Stadium is on vacation. Maybe everybody's out
watching college basketball today. It feels like that's what everybody
here is doing. Let's start with that. Obviously, you just
heard it from Nashville. Kentucky pulls away ish laid against LSU,
knockoff the Tigers eighty seven to eighty two. The Wildcats

(00:54):
will take on Missouri tomorrow, another daytime game, another twelve
thirty tip on ESPN. In fifteen thirty, the Wildcats advanced
to the second round in Nashville. Meanwhile, the Bearcats are
playing right now, and I thought for the most part
yesterday I maintained my composure today is it's still an

(01:16):
elimination game. If the Bearcats lose today, it's I think
impossible for all of us to imagine this team having
its name called on Sunday. If they win this game,
I think the prevailing sentiment is still going to be
that they need another one and they'll have a golden
opportunity against Arizona tomorrow if they win this game. If
they win this game, though, and lose, I think it

(01:38):
would be interesting. There's lots of other games we're paying
attention to right now. Cincinnati Bearcats got off to an
eleven to two start. You see Leeds, you see have
twenty one to twenty. This has been a sloppy game.
The Knights are shooting thirty one percent. The Bearcats are
shooting thirty two percent. The turnovers are starting to mount
for Cincinnati seven so far. With just over four minutes

(02:00):
to go, you see is up a point. The biggest
game easily of the West Miller Era, slightly bigger, I
guess than yesterday.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
So we're monitoring that.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
We've got some college basketball to get to next hour
with our friend Rick Brooring Musketeer Report dot Com also
color analysts for the NK you broadcast, and we'll kind
of put a bow on NKU season. We'll look ahead
to tonight though Madison Square, Garden, Xavier, and Marquette. I
have not seen Trey Carroll's name on the Big East
Availability Report. Will get a sense from Rick as to

(02:33):
whether or not Trey could go and how they could
beat Marquette, either with or without him, and see if
he would give the Musketeers a chance if they would
advance to round two where they would play Yukon. I
mentioned on top of area teams playing, there are a
handful of games that if you're a Cincinnati fan you're
probably playing. Paying a close attention to. One of them

(02:54):
involves SMU. SMU won its game yesterday. They're playing today
against Louisville in the tournament. That game is very early
in the second half. The Cardinals have a one point lead.
And I'm not going to take any bracketologists projections as gospel.
I think that sometimes gets lost here. Like whatever these
bracketologists are putting out there, whether it's our guy Hunter

(03:16):
Sansom or the world renowned Joe Lonardi.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
They're just opinions. They're just projections.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
But you look at some common themes teams around the bubble,
teams on the bubble, teams listed as last four in,
teams listed as last four out, so you see SMU.
They're playing tonight. Indiana plays this evening against Northwestern, which
won its first round game in the Big Ten Tournament.
Auburn is playing right now, and I think this is
a really interesting team because they're sixteen and fifteen, and

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obviously they've been at the kind of the they've been
a part of the Miami debate because of Bruce Pearl's comments.
Auburn's sixteen and fifteen with a seven and eleven record
in the SEC. The Tigers are still, according to some bracketology,
justs a tournament team. And if ever there's been an
argument for not expanding the tournament, and there are many,

(04:07):
maybe it's the candidacy of this year's Auburn team. The
Tigers are taking on Mississippi State under four minute time
out in Nashville. It is twenty eight to twenty two
in favor of Mississippi State, so Auburn is down by
six points. If you're a UC fan, you're paying attention
to Cal tonight the Golden Bears take on Florida State.

(04:28):
You're paying attention to Oklahoma tonight as the Sooners take
on South Carolina, so we'll keep an eye on the
bear Cat game. I'll try to maintain my composure. We've
got the Reds in action today. We've got more on
Hunter Green, including one of our experts from Ortho Sinsey,
doctor Jonathan Slaughter, on the procedure that he's having and

(04:48):
what's next, not just in the coming weeks, but maybe
over the course of the next couple of years. Trey
Hendrickson is a Baltimore Raven and you know what I
like it. I like that a lot. And chances are
you're not wired like me. But if you're a Bengals fan,
maybe I can bring you over to my side and

(05:08):
maybe between now and six o'clock the Bengals find a
linebacker so they don't have to rush out there. Demetrius
Knight and Barrett Carter as sophomore starters Week one of
the twenty twenty six season. All that ahead, four o'clock,
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Team thirty Cincinnati is Sports.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
All Right, here we go, It's five after four. This
is ESPN fifteen thirty. Now the show can really begin. Mulleger,
thank you so much for joining us. You see is
up twenty seven to twenty four. Dayda Thomas three pointer
from the corner is no good. One forty to go
before halftime. Bearcats an elimination game for Cincinnati. Kelsey Conway

(05:53):
is going to join us in fifteen minutes. Kelsey is
as big of a Bearcat fan as any of us.
And so I'm gonna pull Hurl away from the game
and we're going to talk about the Bengals search for
a linebacker, the Trey Hendrickson story, and the Baltimore Ravens
backing out of that Max Crosby deal with the Las
Vegas Raiders. That's the biggest story in the NFL right now.
And you could certainly understand why. It's interesting. It's chaotic,

(06:17):
it's dubious, there's a lot of skepticism. There's lots of
ripple effects to the Trey Hendrickson thing, to the Max
Crosby thing, to the Ravens and Raiders. But here, forget
about Trey Hendrickson for a second. Who's going to play
linebacker for the Bengals. In twenty twenty six, like as
soon as as soon as the euphoria, if you will,

(06:39):
or as soon as the dust settled on what the
Bengals did on day one, which I think excited us all.
Brian cook boy a mafe like good signings, bold signings,
the sort of signings that felt like they were in
line with what we thought the Bengals were going to
have to do this offseason and to a large degree
what Duke Tobin said the Bengals were going to do
this offseason. But the immediate question in the aftermath of

(07:01):
those two signings was what's next. We asked that on
Monday night. I asked it to Paul Danner Junior on
this show yesterday.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Everyone has been talking about that. We've been talking about
as sort of the thing. One of the things before
this started that you were most interested to see was okay,
but what's their view of linebacker going to be?

Speaker 3 (07:24):
And I think we have.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Felt like they were at least they have expressed a
desire to add a veteran in there. But we've now
seen a lot of the linebackers come off of the board.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
I mean, using your thing from last week as a guide,
I've got more names crossed off than I do. Names available,
no doubt, but the top two are still available, yes,
And so I think there is a lot more heat
across the league on Caden Ellis right now than there
is on Leoshanal. So if that, you know, one price

(08:01):
is going up and I don't think the other one
is at this point, so that probably that's probably more likely.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
But that's in the they're working on. They're working on
that position certainly, but that to me, it's not the
only one. Yeah, I mean, I think that's the one
that's in focus, and I do think that that list
has been paired down channel.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
We've just said it. He just feels like the perfect fit.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
So if they can find a way to get that done,
I think that's that feels like you'll feel so good.
To me. That's the one that I think if you
hit that, you you check that box and you bring
in him, it feels like, Okay, you did it. Like
there's other things, the rest of it is, you're always
going to have a rest of it that is putting
pieces together that you need to find a couple of

(08:47):
diamonds in the rough or bargain players. That's always going
to be a part of this, but the big boxes
you needed to check that you probably needed to spend on.
That's the last one that I have unchecked.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
All right, So that's Paul Danner Junior. Just about twenty
four hours ago. You could hear the entire conversation on
the iHeartRadio app. Twenty four hours later, Well, Leo Chanal
is not coming. He's going to the Washington Commanders Kaden Ellis,
who reportedly the Bengals really didn't flirt with all that
mush much back in New Orleans. This after we've crossed

(09:20):
off the names de Mario Davis, Eric Wilson, Alex Singleton,
Alex Angeloni, Nakobe Dean, Devin, Lloyd Kwi Walker, Like, maybe
some of those names were at the top of your list,
and maybe some of those names were on your list.
Maybe some of those names were not on your list. Regardless,
none of those guys are coming to Cincinnati now. Bobby
Wagner is still out there, and I don't know that

(09:41):
there's a I don't know that there's a ton of
reasons to be opposed to bringing Bobby Wagner in, but
there is one big one. It's the fact that he's
thirty seven years old now certainly plays like a guy
who has gas in the tank and can provide a
lot of the things we saw lacking from the Bengals
linebacker play last year, I think, namely reliability, and you
can come up with no one better for your two

(10:04):
young linebackers who struggled so much last year to attach
themselves to. But we're kind of we're kind of getting
thin here. Like I mean, when when folks are floating
the name a Keen Davis Gate are out there, and
Levante David who's also old, and some of the names

(10:24):
that we were not entertaining or talking about all that
much before free agency started, it feels like, well, it
feels like either the Bengals have whiffed or it feels
like the Bengals are not going to be able to
get what I think we all believed prior to the
offseason and through much of last year they desperately need.

(10:48):
It feels like with each passing minute there's an increased
likelihood of Knight and Carter playing more than I think
any of us would like. There's maybe an increased sense that,
you know what, the Bengals couldn't multitask one thing they
got credit for on Tuesday, and we brought it up yesterday.

(11:09):
Was you know they were in on John Franklin Myers.
He obviously goes to the Tennessee Titans, and yet when
that didn't work out, that to not preclude him from
the Bengals from getting deals done with Brian Cook and
boy A Mafey.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
But now you can't help but wonder.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Was this a little bit too much for the Bengals
to bite off Brian Cook and Boye Mafey. And let's
just say Leoshanal was attacking safety and edge and linebacker
all pretty much at precisely the same time. A little
bit too much for the Bengals to do all at once.

(11:50):
We don't know the answers. Now you have to consider
the recent history here, like by ownership's own admission about
a year ago. Yeah, you know what, we were a
little behind in free agency because we were so tied
up in the contract extensions for Jamar Chason T.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Higgins.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
It's one of the many reasons why those two deals
should have been done forever ago.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
They could multitask.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Now, maybe this ultimately has a fix, right, Maybe there
is somebody in free agency they signed that is an
ideal fit. Maybe it doesn't cost all that much. Maybe
it's a Keen Davis Gaither. Maybe it is Bobby Wagner.
Maybe it's somebody that we're not even thinking about. Maybe
Duke Tobin has a trick up his sleeve that we
are not even close to anticipating. Maybe he's playing chess

(12:33):
and everybody else is playing checkers. Maybe in the draft
there's a transformative linebacker that is a rookie the two
guys who were rookies last year can learn from.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
You certainly don't have to add players the first couple
of days of the free agency cycle in order to
obtain good free agents. That said, you watched the Bengals
last year. We watched him, We saw the linebacker play.
It's stunk and for lack of a better way of
putting it, And I don't think anybody is saying that
the Bengals should completely give up on Carter and Night.

(13:06):
I don't know that anybody is saying that neither guy
could play for the team this year. I don't know
that anybody is saying that neither guy could start for
the Bengals Week one. But I think as last season unfolded,
and even as recently as yesterday, folks close to the team,
who cover the team, who watched the team last year,

(13:27):
all agreed, like, hey man went and got the safety,
went and got the edge.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
But you know what need the linebacker?

Speaker 2 (13:33):
It is an important position, is it is a position
of desperate need. Well, so far what they have done
and what they have gotten doesn't match desperate need. And
so lots of questions, namely who's gonna play linebacker and
who else is out there that they could get and
that would make sense for them, and that would make

(13:55):
sense for them and get and actually provide an upgrade.
I hope we're not asking this question tomorrow. The sad
thing is we were asking this question yesterday thirteen minutes
after four o'clock. The Trey Hendrickson thing, Like there's there's
lots of tentacles to this and large ripple effects, and

(14:18):
you know, there's the mechanics of the Max Crosby thing
and how that fell. Apart as it relates to us here,
I am probably in the minority, but I kind of
like Trey Hendrickson going to the Baltimore Ravens, and there's
like the part of me that just loves absurdity and humor,

(14:40):
and for reasons that I'm not entirely sure I could
totally articulate, Trey Hendrickson just makes me laugh because that ordeal,
which took forever and is seemingly sort of still ongoing,
took so many twists and terms that it was just
it was funny. And so Trey Hendrickson to me is funny.
But as a villains, as a Bengals character, Trey hendricks

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Him playing for the Baltimore Ravens is a lot of fun.
And you know me, I love fun. Fourteen minutes after
four o'clock, it's halftime in Kansas City. Cincinnati has a
one point lead twenty seven to twenty six. Bearcats have
been really good from behind the arc six of twelve.
Cincinnati ain't making their twos. No huge inside presence so

(15:30):
far for the Bearcats, although Mustapha cham has had a
quality half eleven and seven did make both of his
three point shots. You see is three of seventeen from
inside the arc, and they were awful at the free
throw line yesterday, only six attempts, but they have made
just three. UCF is shooting a thirty two percent the
Bearcats have defended, they have been at times sloppy on
the offensive end. Eight turnovers. Here's my halftime prediction. Are

(15:53):
you ready send this to Dan and Terry. If the
turnover number is five or less in the second half,
you see will win. If the turnover number is larger
than five, U see will lose. There's sort of a
World Baseball Classic tiebreaker element to what I just said,
which we've got to spend a few minutes on that
a little bit later on lots of ground to cover.

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(16:35):
hour reaction from Kansas City. Maybe here from Wes Miller.
I don't know how much time we'll have for phone
calls today, but if we do, you'll hear me throw
at the phone number. Sixteen minutes after four o'clock, we'll
talk Bengals Ravens, Trey linebackers and more with our friend
Kelsey Conway.

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You are about to listen to a conversation between two
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right now in a huge game, a game that could
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And yet very gamely, we are going to talk about
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and she's actually providing news while this game is happening
right now.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
I just reached her on Twitter. She's with us now, Hi, Kelsey.

Speaker 7 (18:05):
Hey Mo, how you doing.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
I'm well, do you want to play linebacker for the Bengals?

Speaker 8 (18:10):
Oh? No, No I don't.

Speaker 7 (18:14):
But I you know, I wish I had better news
hopping on this call. And you know, I thought about
when I put out some of my stuff on X,
like curfasing it by saying, like Bengals fans like, don't
kill the messenger, because unfortunately, I just had back to
back X posts that I'm gonna put together in a
notebooks that'll be available on Cincinnati dot Com about who

(18:38):
the Bengals aren't interested. And so I tried to comb
through what's left of the positions that they need people
at and see what I could find, and didn't find.

Speaker 8 (18:52):
A lot of great news.

Speaker 7 (18:53):
So we can get into it on this show. But yeah,
it's been it's been a hard day to figure out
exactly what.

Speaker 9 (19:01):
The Bengals plan has been since day one.

Speaker 7 (19:05):
So and I know we'll get into it and you
can ask me all your questions that I just wanted
to bring that up at the top of my appearance
on this show, so.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
You could mean no, no, you Well, let's let's sort
of backtrack a little bit here, because you put this
on social media. This is before four o'clock. League year
is now underway. You wrote, We're thirty minutes away from
the new league year, and the Bengals have added two
players during the legal tampering period, Boye Mafe and Brian Cook.
And as you wrote, there's still time to add players.
I thought the Bengals would have added more by now

(19:33):
if you would have told me on Monday afternoon, about
four o'clock, once we saw who they had signed, I
think I think most of us would have been surprised,
and most of would have said most of us would
have said, it's unlikely that forty eight hours later, those
are still the only two names. I think most would agree,
And so I guess the question is what has happened
since Monday afternoon That leaves those two guys who agreed

(19:56):
to terms on Monday as the two most recent guys
who have agreed to terms with the Bengals.

Speaker 7 (20:03):
I don't know, and I say that because usually you
hear like, okay, they were in the mix, they were
a finalist. So then from those clues you can kind
of put together, like, Okay, here's who they were in on.
I've made a number of calls also been following some
of the reports from other prospects, and I have not

(20:26):
gotten any sense of who they have really targeted that
they've missed out on. So there's been conflicting reports, you know,
about Devin Lloyd, and it seemed every like everybody wanted
to believe.

Speaker 9 (20:38):
That the Bengals were in on that, and then that
came out it wasn't.

Speaker 8 (20:42):
You know, true.

Speaker 7 (20:43):
But let me just run through some names for you
that I can tell you that they haven't been in on.
And that's where I don't know what their plan has been.
They were not in on Caden Ellis. They were not
in on I just posted this, but Arnold Uber Katie,
they weren't in on him. They weren't in on kylev On,

(21:03):
Chase on They and you know, I'll talk about another
one that I just posted, but specific to that position, like,
they weren't in on any of those guys. Those were
all guys that I thought that they could put together,
you know, a contract that would be in line with
what the Bengals like to do in free agency. So
for them to have not even been a finalist or
in on those guys, I'm having a hard time connecting

(21:27):
the dots as far as who they were targeting and
what their plan is.

Speaker 8 (21:31):
I know they were targeting.

Speaker 7 (21:32):
Boy and Mafe, they were successful in getting that done.
They were clearly targeting Brian Cook. They were successful in
getting that done. As far as who else they were targeting,
I haven't been able to get a nail on that
because some of these guys that seemed like logical fits
at the positions that they need, they haven't either been
in the mix own.

Speaker 8 (21:52):
Or they haven't been a finalist.

Speaker 7 (21:54):
So I'm struggling to figure out what their plan after Boy, Mafe.

Speaker 8 (21:59):
And Brian Cook.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Husband is the thirty seven year old Bobby Wagner.

Speaker 7 (22:05):
I have a hard time believing that that's their plan.

Speaker 8 (22:09):
I mean, you know how.

Speaker 7 (22:09):
It is with the Bengals with people you know up
in the age category. So I think it's a matter
of a matter of they truly must believe that they
have their their group that they have. They're buying the
growth that they saw in the in the second half

(22:32):
of the season. But what they said is the combine
to us, a'll Golden telling us.

Speaker 8 (22:39):
You know, we need a Sam linebacker.

Speaker 7 (22:42):
You know, we asked Amitrius and I to do stuff
that he's probably not good enough at.

Speaker 9 (22:46):
We need to put him in a position to succeed.

Speaker 8 (22:48):
So where's your Sam linebacker?

Speaker 7 (22:50):
That's where I started with making making calls for players
that would fit that They were not a finalist for
any of those players that I just mentioned.

Speaker 8 (22:58):
Okay, so what happens there.

Speaker 7 (23:01):
The other position that I'm almost like perplexed that they
haven't moved on is defensive tackle. And so I saw
bubbling up on social media, you know, Bengals fans asking
after a report came out from Pro Football Talk that
Dallas Cowboys defensive tackle Osa Odgzua, you know, could potentially

(23:26):
be up for trade because the Cowboys have added to
that position. And so I made some calls around the league,
and the Bengals haven't shown any interest as far as
his side talking to his side, So it's not coming
via a trade right now. I mean, there could be
one in the works that they're keeping completely hush hush,

(23:48):
but people other teams aren't in the mix of giving away.
They're either one or top two d tackles, especially in
a year where the free agency crop wasn't great and
the draft crop isn't great. So that's another one where
I'm struggling to figure out, like, Okay, if they're not
going to sign one of these guys in free agency,
are they going to try and trade for a guy who's.

Speaker 9 (24:08):
Currently on another team.

Speaker 7 (24:09):
Well, one of the most logical fits to me would
have been Osa, and they're not headed in that direction.
So long story short, I don't know what their plan
is after day one.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
It feels like specifically to those two positions, and I think,
frankly a little bit more so linebacker, just because I
think there were more names out there that seem to
fit what they should be looking for.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
It feels like last year.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
It feels like last year for the entire defense, it
was well, you know, toward the end of the season,
we won those games, and yeah, you could say we
feasted on bad quarterbacks, but we did just enough to
essentially bring all those dudes back, and then we saw
what the results were. And so I think in the
back of any fan's mind has to be that. And
then you think ahead to this coming season and it's like,

(24:56):
are they really going to go into this season with
Carter and Knight playing these significant roles that they were
forced to play in last year, Like, is it really
going to be bj Hill and Chris Jenkins and guys
who were on the team last year. I saw that
movie before, and yeah, man, they upgraded its safety and
I think they're okay on the edge, especially if Miles

(25:16):
Murphy ends up continuing his ascension. But I think the
frustrating thing for me you talk about plan, it feels
like last year's plan specific so far, at least to
detackle on linebacker. I hope that changes. I'm fearful that
it won't.

Speaker 7 (25:30):
I can completely see why you're saying that, and I'm
thinking the same thing where I think it's different than
it was last year is that they finally admitted they
needed a real guy at safety.

Speaker 8 (25:43):
I mean, at least they did.

Speaker 7 (25:44):
That, right, Okay, so at least they acknowledged that they
weren't good enough at that position. But what I look
at day one is those guys were signed to replace
guys that left. So I'm not saying that the Bengals
are better yet because they signed Brian Cochan, Boye Mafe,

(26:06):
Because keep in mind, you're not just replacing Trey Hendrickson's production.
You're also replacing josepho size production. Those are two guys
that gave you a lot off the edge. So really, boy,
Mafe is just a piece of how you replace that
production and you hope it works and then safety you

(26:26):
upgrade it there. But the Bengals defense right now is
not a better unit than it was when it ended
this season. And that's where I'm perplexed because you see
teams like the Washington Commanders who made it a point
after a bad year on defense, we are going to
fix this, and they went out and they addressed it completely,

(26:49):
made over their defensive line, you know, with odafe Away
going there, Klevon, Chase On and then adding Leoshanal like
they had a clear plan and they executed it. And
I thought that the Bengals were going to do that,
and they did it. And you know, of course there's
still time. You know that you can't the Bengals are

(27:09):
playing a game on Sunday, but they're really missing the
window on some players. And just to your point about
the linebackers, nobody was saying that the Bengals needed to
go out.

Speaker 9 (27:20):
And sign a mic linebacker to.

Speaker 8 (27:22):
Take over for Barrett Carter.

Speaker 7 (27:23):
What everybody was hoping for was that they would bring
in a leader who has experienced that can push those
guys along. And is it not like the best case
scenario to have real competition in training camp at linebacker?
And that, to me is where I'm totally just perplexed.

(27:45):
And I hear you that it sounds a lot like
last year.

Speaker 8 (27:48):
And for Duke to.

Speaker 7 (27:49):
Oven to go up to the podium and say, you know,
we have the resources, the Bengals set themselves up for
their fans to be upset in a way with that
statement because they.

Speaker 8 (28:00):
Haven't backed it up.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Can they not multitask? And the reason I bring this
up was by their own admission last year from ownership.
You were there at the owners meetings. Hey, you know,
we were kind of locked into getting Jamar and t
done and that kind of precluded us from devoting all
the attention and resources we would have liked to free agency.
I thought that was an incredibly lame excuse, but the

(28:23):
message was we couldn't multitask. Can they not multitask and
go try to get the guys they got on Tuesday?
I'm sorry on Monday, and even the players they tried
for but didn't get on Monday, all the while reach
out to and negotiate with players at other positions who
have signed with other teams.

Speaker 7 (28:42):
So there's my response that is going to be I
think it's a little bit twofold here.

Speaker 8 (28:47):
Keep in mind this, and I'm not going to get.

Speaker 7 (28:50):
Into specifics, but I think this is an important piece
of information for Bengals fans. Keep in mind, free agency
is very much a one team can show interest in
that player. The bad player and his representation have to
want to be in Cincinnati. They have to want to
negotiate with the Bengals. They have to want their player

(29:14):
to be there. The Bengals have had history with.

Speaker 8 (29:18):
Some agents that represent a lot of players.

Speaker 7 (29:22):
And that comes in the factor here in free agency
because the player gets to choose. So if the Bengals
were up against another team and that agent of that
player has had bad negotiations with the Bengals, like, let's
not forget that, that could maybe come into the conversation.

(29:43):
So that's an important piece of information. Don't think that
the Bengals reputations somehow, some way finds its way into
free agency at times with specific agents. Also, the other
part of what you're saying is can theynot multitask? That's
where the constant questions about the scouting staff come into play,

(30:05):
because if you if you can't have a big enough
scouting staff where they can handle many of these things
going on right now, like they're trying to book, like
when they're doing the pro days, they're trying to do
draft stuff while they're doing it, like there's a lot
going on. But you don't help yourself get rid of
those questions about the size of your scouting staff when

(30:26):
it seems like they can't operate and do multiple things
at a high level at one time. And so I
think that's that's going to continue to be a question
when when you ask questions like then they not multitask well,
then then having a really small staff doesn't help in.

Speaker 9 (30:43):
Situations like this.

Speaker 7 (30:44):
But I think based off of what I know about
the Bangals and what they thought going into free agency,
I said, I said it, you know a number of times,
temper your expectations because the Beangals didn't think the defensive
crop at some of the positions that they needed was

(31:04):
as good as the outside did. And I know that's
frustrating for fans to hear and you can say, well,
they'd at least be better than what they had. Sure, definitely,
but the Bengals.

Speaker 8 (31:17):
The Bengals didn't have high.

Speaker 7 (31:19):
Enough grades on a lot of these players, and that's
why clearly you saw them not being the mix for
some of these guys.

Speaker 8 (31:25):
That you could say they need. So I think there's
a lot there.

Speaker 7 (31:30):
As far as how the Bengals ended up where they
are right now, and that.

Speaker 9 (31:34):
Is with just two new players when.

Speaker 7 (31:37):
They probably needed about four to five new starters on
defense right now.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
One more Kelsey Conway from The Inquirer and Cincinnati dot Com,
where she, by the way, takes your mailbag question.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
She is also on Twitter at Kelsey L. Conway.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
What is your overarching takeaway from Trey Hendrickson joining the
Baltimore Ravens and the route that was taken for him
to get there.

Speaker 7 (32:00):
I think it's coomical that you know, of course, Trey
Hendrickston is gonna end up with the team in the
division and it'd be a new storyline, you know, mo.
I actually think he signed well.

Speaker 8 (32:12):
I don't know if it's official yet, but.

Speaker 7 (32:14):
He went to the Ravens just so that two weeks
a year you continue to talk about him, since I
know how much he loved to talk about Tranderson. But
on a more serious note, I was on a Baltimore
podcast this morning and they asked, like, what was the
reaction from Bengals players about Trey going to the to

(32:37):
the Ravens. And what I thought was the most interesting
thing is as I actually talked to a Bengals player
this morning and I asked, and it wasn't that they're
fearful of Tray being in the division. It was more
of a relief that they don't have to go up
against Max Crosby and that he's not going to be
in the division. So I thought that was really interesting

(32:57):
about the whole situation. But I think it unfolded perfectly
for Trey. I thought it was very interesting that he
waited it out, and I thought him waiting it out might.

Speaker 8 (33:09):
Not work in his favor.

Speaker 7 (33:10):
But it always felt like Trey was going to end
up going to a team that's legit, you know, trying
to win a Super Bowl. I didn't see him going
to a team that was, you know, kind of in
a rebuild mode. So it went basically how I expected
it when it was he was going to wait it
out because he didn't feel that the teams were meeting
his value. You know, Trey a tray the entire time

(33:32):
with the Bangles, thought he was in the upper echelon
of edge rushers.

Speaker 9 (33:37):
And the league told you.

Speaker 8 (33:39):
This past week.

Speaker 7 (33:40):
You know, they didn't view him how he viewed himself.
But it ended up working out for Trey. And it'll
certainly be interesting because I covered a lot of training
camp reps of Trey and Orlando going at it with
each other, and it's going to be fascinating to see
the Bangals knowing like what his weaknesses are VI first,

(34:00):
Trey knowing you know how to beat Orlando Brown.

Speaker 8 (34:02):
Like, the storylines are going to be really interesting there.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
I'm excited because I'm a fan of interesting and fun
and Trey Hendrickson playing against the Bengals twice years interesting
and fun. By the way, we're winning the game thirty
four to thirty one, so I think we're plus two.
Since you jumped on the phone with me, you've been
good luck. I know you have a lot going on.
I'll let you run. Thank you as.

Speaker 7 (34:22):
Always, thanks so much for having me on.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
You're the best.

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that event Big twelve Tournament, Iowa State crushed Arizona State
ninety one to forty two. Xavier plays Marquette tonight at
Madison Square Garden in the Big East Tournament. Winner will
take on Yukon. We'll chat with Rick Boring in just
a second. Kentucky a winner today in the SEC Tournament
over LSU eighty seven to eighty two. The Wildcats will
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Also in that event in Nashville, thirteen minutes to go,
Auburn a forty eight to forty lead over Mississippi State.
In the ACCED Tournament, SMU leads Number twenty four Louisville
fifty eight to fifty seven, just under two minutes to
go in that one. Iowall win today in the Big
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Hawkeyes will take on Ohio State tomorrow. Indiana battles Northwestern
tonight in Chicago in that event. By the way, there
is a happening right now in New York in the
Biggies Tournament. Butler leads Providence thirty six thirty one under
three to go. Matt McClain his fifth home run of
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(37:16):
of the Brewers in goodyear three to two reds batting
bottom of the second inning. Opening day starter Andrew Abbott
on the hill for Cincinnati and Mexico and Italy are
going to play in the World Baseball Classic, and I'm
too dumb to understand the tiebreaker, you know, who's not
dumb our friend Rick Brooring from Musketeer Report dot Com.
By the way, because Tarn wants to do this yesterday,

(37:37):
I was composed, but he wants to broadcast this live
on Twitter, so if something crazy happens in the UC game,
you could see my reaction. So you could watch this
show right now on Twitter at moeger. And because we're
bringing in Rick Broing an hour later than usual, you
can actually watch this conversation as Rick, Rick and I
talk on zoom. This is this is really exciting. We're

(37:58):
really leaning into tech analogy today. By the way, this
on the heels of Charlie Goldsmith's cell phone from nineteen
ninety seven that he used yesterday.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Hi, Rick, what's up though?

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (38:10):
A lot, a lot? How about yourself?

Speaker 11 (38:12):
Yeah? I was just watching the Bearcats.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Very good.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
You're gonna watch the Musketeers tonight. Is Trey Carroll gonna play?

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Well?

Speaker 11 (38:20):
The injury report just came out from the Big East
and he is not on it, So that would lead
everyone to believe that he is available in what role?
How close to one hundred percent is he going to be?
We don't know, but it sounds like he's gonna give
it a go.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
All right, good.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
I think of the first Marquette game, Xavier got crushed
on the glass and they.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Turned the ball over a lot.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
I think of the second Marquette game, they were better
on the glass and they took better care of the ball.
Is that what tonight comes down to?

Speaker 12 (38:50):
That?

Speaker 11 (38:51):
And shooting the three point shot? I mean the second game,
that was the other big part of it. I mean,
they were just bombs away. They made sixteen threes in
that game, and when they make twelve or more threes
this year, they're seven to one. So that's been a
huge part of their success. When they've been successful, I
think that makes it much easier for them to pull
off a win.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Now.

Speaker 11 (39:10):
Part of that that you have to talk about is
last time they were at Madison Square Garden this season
against Saint John's was one of their worst shooting nights
of the year. So Saint John's obviously a different team
defensively than Marquette is, but that's the last time they
shot in this arena. So that's definitely something I'm gonna
have my eye on.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
How the hell did Marquette beat yukon on Saturday? It's
a really good question. Has to be terrifying to go
into this game knowing they just beat Yukon. They've won
five of their last six, so they're clearly playing their
best basketball.

Speaker 11 (39:40):
Of the season. Now, you know, again, how did they
pull that one off?

Speaker 3 (39:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (39:45):
It feels a little bit fluky. Maybe the pressure got
to Yukon in that situation or something. But I think
this is It's been two close games the first two
times these two teams played. I would expect another close
game here tonight, assuming Trey Carroll is able to play
in is somewhere near one hundred percent rexavior.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
What's interesting to me is Trey Carroll playing tonight, But also,
if you win, you got to bring him out there
in a consecutive night against an already extraordinarily tough task
in Yukon. I'm actually and they have to win the
game tonight.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
I get that.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
I'm I'm I'm is equally interested in what he would
look like if they did have to play a game tomorrow.
I don't know that they have much of a shot
at at even hanging with Yukon, even if he does go.
But I guess for me that's what's more interesting than tonight.

Speaker 11 (40:29):
Yeah, I think that's fair to say. I mean, based
on the fact that he was struggling to move around.
It's a hip injury where he fell on it. I
don't know what the actual diagnosis was, but we consume
maybe some type of contusion or whatever. Got to imagine
the second day after playing a night game, he's not
going to feel too great. But like you said, I
don't know that I would care too much about that
either way, because they haven't had a chance against Yukon

(40:49):
either time they played on the season.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Is I know you're not a bracketologist.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Is this season the most convincing argument against NCAA inevitable
in all likelihood NCUBLE tournament expansion.

Speaker 11 (41:03):
You know, I think it's. I summed this up best
in a text message we shared a few nights ago,
when I said, we've been talking about tournament expansion for
far too long. I sent you a screenshot of some
guy who commented on this from like twenty and eleven,
and I enjoyed his take Back. Then, we've been talking
about this like every single year. At this point, I
just don't care. Do whatever you're gonna do with the tournament,

(41:23):
just let me watch it and don't make me listen
to the complaints about it for two months leading up
to the tournament. That's by far worse than actually expanding
the tournament is listening to everybody whine about the possibility
that at some point we might expand the tournament for
the last fourteen years, that's been pretty annoying.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
On Yeah, and I've participated in that a lot. I
just I look at the bubble this year, and you
sees a part of this conversation there's like I look
at certain bracketology projections and I see Auburn at sixteen
and fifteen in the tournament. If that's what we're coming
close to including in a sixty eighteen field, what kind
of wreck? What kind of wretched teams are we going

(41:59):
to include the seventy sixteen field.

Speaker 11 (42:02):
I think it will not go this way, But let
me throw this out to you. This is something I've
been told by people who do scheduling for high major teams.
They've made the claim to me that if the tournament
field were to be expanded, they would be much more
open to scheduling more difficult, high profile, interesting non conference
matchups because there's more margin for air. You don't feel

(42:25):
like one loss could cost you your ticket into the
Big Dance if that were the case, And again, I
don't actually believe that's what they would do with that opportunity.
I think they'd still just try to skate by and
find the easiest path into the tournament. But if that
were the case and they were to schedule more interesting
non conference games, would that make it better from your perspective.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yeah, to a degree, if there's if, if that actually happens.

Speaker 11 (42:48):
I've spent trust them to do that.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
I've spent a lifetime hearing coaches say we'll play anybody anywhere, anytime,
and then you know their schedule looks like Travis Steels
this year.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
No knock on Miami.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
But I mean that's I hear that every year from
coaches won't play anybody, and then they never do. So
I'm skeptical that that would be the case. Rick Bororing
is with this. Xavier and Marquette tonight put a bow
on NKU in the Horizon Lead Tournament. I thought I
thought at halftime that that being as good of a
game as it was, and I know they took a
lead early in the second half, it felt like a

(43:19):
house of cards because I didn't think they were gonna
be able to defend Right State, and I kind of
felt like, as the game unfolded, I ended up being right.

Speaker 11 (43:28):
Is that a fair perspective, Yeah, And I think that's
you know, I certainly don't speak for the program or
the coaching staff or anything like that, but from my perspective,
that's what made it a little bit easier to swallow
is at the end of that game, you just felt like, Okay,
Right State was clearly the better team this year. They
beat them three times, and in that third game, like
you said, NKU was playing right with them for the

(43:49):
first half, felt like they were playing pretty well, and
then once again they just couldn't guard Right State down
the stretch and they made the necessary plays. And look,
we were wondering, how would some of those young guys,
you know, they play two freshmen a lot of minutes,
they play a sophomore a lot of minutes on that team,
how would they react to being in that weird arena,
in a one and done environment for the first time.
And there were multiple occasions where NK you had just

(44:12):
a little bit of momentum in the second half, had
a good defensive possession where they take it right down
in the final seconds of the shot clock, and three
different time those young players for Right State banged buzzer
beating shot clock beating three pointers and those were all daggers.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
I mean, that's what you got to do if you're
gonna win a championship. I felt like NKU season this
year was weird. Is that a fair way of characterizing.

Speaker 11 (44:34):
It, Yeah, it is. I think there are a few
things going on there. One, this is the first time,
you know, as much as we feel like we've been
in the transfer portal era for a while, this is
the first time that NK you really turned over a
large portion of its roster in the transfer portal. They've
really retained a lot of guys every season and just
added a guy here, a piece there for depth. It's
never been their main guys. This year they finally did that,

(44:55):
and I think for the first time, it took them
a little bit longer to settle into their de They
changed their defense a lot more than they ever have.
And then you also had that stretch a little past
the midway point of conference play where they had a
lot of guys out with injury yet LJ Wells down,
Cal Robinson down, Donovan Rockos and not a Harri down
and they struggled through that stretch, which kind of put

(45:16):
them in a bit of a spin and cost them
some seating position. But then right by the end of
the season, once again it seemed like they were playing
their best basketball. They had some momentum going into the tournament,
and they got back to the semi finals.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
I think what's interesting about what happens this offseason is,
you know, the Norse are going to have to replace
the school's all time leader and field goal percentage, Mitchell Minor,
who leaves NKU with a field goal percentage of one
hundred percent pride to Scott High School. And so I
guess there's a two part question there, how do you
replace him? And what plans might be made to honor him.

Speaker 11 (45:49):
I was walking through the hallways over at the Truest
Arena today and I was looking around. I couldn't find anybody.
I was like, what is going on? And actually that's
what I heard. They were having team meeting staff meetings
about how do we replace Mitchell Minor. So I don't
know if anyone has the answer for one from the field, yeah,
right right, So I would probably be making a lot

(46:11):
more money. If I knew the answer to that question.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Yeah, well get to the bottom of that. We'll maybe
talk about it next week at the Holy Grail. Thank
you as always, good to see you. We'll talk next week.

Speaker 11 (46:20):
I will say Mitchell Miner might be making appearance on
the Darren Horn TV show.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Oh later this month.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Will he be introduced as the school's all time leader
in field goal percentage?

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Three for three is perfect.

Speaker 11 (46:30):
I might know the guy in control of that, so
I'll run it past him.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Very good.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Thanks man, We'll see We'll see you next week. Rick
Brooring Musketeer Report dot com. Follow him on Twitter at
Rick Browing. Bearcats have a seven point lead eleven fifty
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Louisville has taken a lead in the final minute over

(46:59):
SMU six sixty two to fifty eight. Auburn continues to
lead over Mississippi State fifty six to fifty three. It
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After knowing a ton going on quickly on the hoops,
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(48:19):
fifty nine to Louisville. Xavier's playing later tonight Kentucky a winner,
which means tomorrow they'll take on Missouri after beating LSU today.
The game's on ESPN fifteen thirty tomorrow. Twelve thirty is
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(48:43):
on Hunter Green's procedure and uh find out about the timeline,
possible complications, and I also I'll ask him if he
thinks that Hunter Green's gonna have to like change his
mechanics or not throw his hard that sort of stuff.
That conversation is coming up just about fifteen minutes, maybe

(49:03):
thirty minutes. We will see. We're streaming the show on
Twitter today because years ago Terren spied on me and
caught me reacting to UC winning a big twelve tournament game.
I believe over West Virginia, and I've I think I've
maintained my composure.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
I've behaved myself.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
I do not think they get in if they win
today and lose tomorrow, but it does get a lot
more interesting. And look, they're gonna be huge dogs Arizona
wipe the floor with them the first time, but just
give me a chance. They're seven and change away now,
an eleven point lead, fifty one to forty. Mustapha Cham
has been really good, Keishaan Tillery has been really good,

(49:43):
and hopefully the Bearcats can finish. The Bengals still haven't
signed a linebacker. Case you're wondering, Trey Hendrickson is a
Baltimore Raven and I last night was a really fun
sports night because you had the World Baseball Classic, you
had college hoops happening, you had Bam out of Bios
scoring eighty three points, and you had the disintegration of

(50:05):
the agreed upon trade between the Ravens and the Las
Vegas Raiders, which would have sent two first round picks
from Baltimore to Vegas in exchange for Max Crosby. Baltimore
Nicks is the deal. And watching everybody way in on
this and watching people around the NFL get mad at
the Baltimore Ravens was a lot of fun. What the

(50:27):
Ravens have done is apparently within the rules. I don't
know that they have violated any collective bargaining agreement rule.
I don't know that they have violated any part of
the NFL's constitution. You could argue that what they have
done is shady, and there's probably something to that, but
what they've done is within the rules. And you can
argue that what they've done is unethical, but so is

(50:49):
turning off the hot water and the visiting team shower.
The Ravens have one obligation, and I'm no Baltimore fan,
but the Ravens have one obligation, and that obligation is
to themselves. And so they did something that whether it's legit,
and they legitimately were scared off by Max Crosby's physical

(51:11):
or saw Trey Hendrickson dangling out here and thought, well,
we can get a guy who's maybe a little bit
more of a sex specialist and a little bit older,
but we could get him well at the same time
keeping our first round picks Like that, that's a better deal.
And we haven't signed anything in the new league year
hasn't started yet.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Like is that shady?

Speaker 12 (51:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Is that unethical?

Speaker 4 (51:33):
Sure, But the.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Ravens at the end of the day have one obligation.
Their obligation is to themselves. Now, when you do something unethical,
when you do something that your peers or your competitors
find unethical, you're gonna have to deal with the fallout.
Like if I do something that violates something ethically in

(51:55):
this business. Maybe it's not going to cost me my job,
but it might cost me credibil with my colleagues, my coworkers.
It might keep some of them from wanting to do
business with me or making me a part of their projects.
I have to deal with that, I believe, and this
is just me. You could disagree if you'd like, and
tell me if you do. But in terms of like, well,

(52:15):
teams aren't gonna want to do business with the Baltimore
Ravens anymore. If the Ravens have someone or something, then
another team wants they'll do business with the Baltimore Ravens
and agents yeah, like okay, if there are agents who
are looking at the Ravens going, I'm not sure I
want to do business with them. I think that will
last until their client is offered the most money in

(52:37):
a deal by the Baltimore Ravens. We will see the
Trey hendricks in part of this, the Trey hendricks in
part of this him going to the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
I think it's cool. I get it.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
It feels maybe to you like betrayal, although Trey Hendrickson
owed the Bengals nothing like if your employer lets you go,
which is effectively what happened with Trey Hendrickson. You don't
owe them anything once your employment ends. So if it
means go work for their direct competitor or your boss's
sworn enemy, find so be it.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
I think this is fun because.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
The Trey Hendrickson thing, like it or not, has dominated
the discourse and we've had a ton of fun with it.
But what has always been interesting is ultimately, will it
be proven that the Bengals got it right or got
it wrong? Did they get it right in not having
plans for Trey to be on the team twenty twenty six,
twenty twenty seven and beyond, did they get it right?

(53:41):
And is Trey Hendrickson going to age poorly or his
best years truly behind him?

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Or is he going to have a transformative year?

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Is he going to have this sort of season that
defies what the Bengals expected? And he plays every game
and he has a huge sack total, and he's one
of the key reasons why the Ravens go deep into
the postseason. We will see I'd rather see it firsthand,
see if they got it right by watching the Bengals
play against them.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Twice.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Look, he was gonna go somewhere, even if the market
for him didn't quite materialize the way he had hoped,
he was gonna go somewhere. So let's let's let's see it.
Let's see how they.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Do against him.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
And if you're worried about Trey Hendrickson sacking Joe Burrow, well,
there's a reason why you're paying Orlando Brown a ton
of money. And there's a reason why you've invested in
a Marius Mims. There's a reason why we're we're bullish
on the Bengals offensive line because it's supposed to be
this year actually good. So block the guy you invested
in your two tackles, mainly Trey is obviously an edge.

(54:43):
You invested in those two guys for a reason. Block
elite pass rushers. Block guys like Trey Hendrickson. Like we
are all fans of winning first and foremost, but I'm
also a fan of interesting. Trey Hendrickson here playing in

(55:05):
Baltimore is more interesting than him playing for I don't know,
the Dallas Cowboys of the San Francisco forty nine ers,
or the Jacksonville Jaguars of the Carolina Panthers or the
Indianapolis Colts, which is where obviously a lot of people
thought he was gonna go.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
I'm a fan of interesting. I want to win.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Okay, beat the Ravens with Trey Hendrickson. The Bengals have
decided his best years are behind him. Okay, prove it
by blocking him. Prove it by not allowing him to
wreck your game plan or hurt your quarterback. Trey Hendrickson
will play in Cincinnati for the Ravens. Fan reaction gonna

(55:45):
be interesting. I'm sure we're gonna do the whole like
should he be boots? Should he be cheered? And I'd
cheer the guy. I probably will cheer the guy. I'm
a body of work guy. Now, we've had a lot
of fun with Trey Hendrickson, and I know there are
others who feel the same way. I don't like how
he handled the last year plus here and best free

(56:09):
agent signing in the history of the franchise. That goes
I don't think it goes without saying. But it's that's
a conclusion that a lot of us have arrived at
that his time in Cincinnati is smashing success individually into
a degree from a team perspective, because he was. He
exceeded everybody's expectations, and certainly you will find Bengals fans

(56:30):
who wish he was still here. But in the last
year or so, the whining about the contract that he
had just recently signed, him going public with his beef
with what Zach Taylor had texted him, him showing up
at practice and conducting a pseudo press conference mere feet
away from where his teammates were working out, the gripes

(56:51):
about him never being a captain, like it just it
all got to be a bit much. Trey Hendrickson, as
marvelous of a player as he was, it just he
got to be kind of a cartoon character over the
last year.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Maybe you disagree, but you know, there's him being a villain.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Yeah, Jesse Bates is with the Falcons, and you know,
it's interesting to see how he's done. He's been great,
not a villain. Sports are more fun when they're characters.
Trey Hendrickson playing against the Bengals twice a year is
more of a character than him playing for a team
that might play the Bengals once or twice during the
course of his time with that team. Him playing them
in high stakes games, hopefully for the Baltimore Ravens. Awesome,

(57:35):
Let's do it. That's a fun wrinkle. Sports are more
fun when there are fun wrinkles. And if you're terrified
that they're not going to win games because Trey Hendrickson
is going to destroy their offense, well then you believe
the Bengals have bigger offensive line issues than they do.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
So let's do it. Man, Trey and Baltimore. I think
it's awesome. Let's go.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
More storylines, more characters, more people who matter to fans,
playing in games that matter to fans. What does he
tray with the Seattle Seahawks or some team like that,
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
There's no better way to see if they got it
right with the player than playing frequently against the player.
Let's go. Sports are more fun when there are villains.
This UC game would be more fun if if Dadae
Thomas had just made that three fifty one forty four,
four thirty to go a quarter after five at Moeger
I got to get to a poll question at some

(58:30):
point here in just a bit. I think the Bearcats
got away with a foul that's going the other way.
That's going the other way. Offensive foul. Bob and Miller
has had a tough game, but I think he just
took an offensive foul. We got to spend a few
minutes on Hunter Green, who is apparently having the procedure
today to take out the bone spurs, take out the
bone chips. By the way, Matt McClain another home run today.

(58:50):
It's batting close to six hundred this spring. He is
knocking to back close to six hundred when the real
games begin. But if you were hoping for an encouraging
spring from Matt mc lane, you're getting it. The Hunter
Green weirdness we touched on a little bit yesterday. We'll
spend a few more minutes on and then we'll talk
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Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
The UC game.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
The Bearcats are up by three points, standing by in
just a second. Our friend, doctor Jonathan Slaughter from Ortho
Sincy on Hunter Green, who's obviously gonna miss at least
half of the season with the bone ships in his elbow.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
I root hard for Hunter Green.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Like I've talked before, if I'm not too old to
have a favorite player, he's my favorite player. And I've
I've been accused of being a Hunter Green apologist, which
I'm not. He's always to me come off as an
easy guy to root for and somebody who I think
is when he's at his best, he's really fun to watch.

(01:00:43):
There's there's a lot, it feels like happening behind the
scenes that we don't know, and none of us should
be irresponsible in draw conclusions that were not qualified to draw,
and I think some are going to take this to
the degree that Hunter doesn't like baseball, that sort of thing,
like he's hurt a lot, and when athletes get hurt
a lot, unfortunately, those narratives grow. But I do think

(01:01:07):
it's it's fair to just take a take a step
back and look at what's happened with Hunter and the
Reds for the last couple of years and just wonder
why things have gotten so weird.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
If you just go back to.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Last year during the summer, all the conjecture over the
frustrations in regards to, you know, him slow playing his
return from injury. I mean that was a topic in
the middle of the summer last year when it was
taking longer than I think a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
Were hoping for.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
As Jalen Selstein hits a three, when it was taking
longer than a lot of people were hoping for for
him to come back from his groin injury, cats are
up by six, and then there was there was trade
chatter this offseason, and I'm not sure any of it
was really substantive, but there was trade chatter, and it
never really felt like a deal was going to get done.

(01:01:57):
But it also didn't feel like baseless fan speculation or
baseless media speculation.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
It felt like there was a little there there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
And then you know, Hunter starts spring training and he's
talking about feeling like his his character was defamed. He
clearly was agitated, maybe deservedly so. He clearly was hurt,
maybe deservedly so. But he's he's doing this while he
was apparently dealing with elbow soreness. How's weird? Like all
those things are weird. And then the current conversation about

(01:02:30):
the timing of the procedure, what the Reds knew about
his elbow soreness, what he may or may not have disclosed,
Like just confusion, weirdness, and so like maybe there is
absolutely no disconnect between the team and the picture. Maybe
I hope that's the case. And God knows, If Hunter
comes back and pitches great and helps the Reds get

(01:02:52):
to the postseason and then can go on a long
stretch of not being injured, not missing time, the conversation
will change and a lot of the weirdness of the
last year eight to ten months will go away. But
it just feels like everything between one of the faces
of the franchise and the franchise itself is a little

(01:03:16):
off and a little weird and a little disconnected. And
as relationships go, when there's awkwardness and weirdness and there's
a disconnect, those relationships tend to.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Tend to unravel. I hope that doesn't happen with Hunter Green.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Let's talk with one of the experts, one of the
doctors from Ortho Sincy Orthopedics and Sports Medicine. The great
thing about Ortho Sincy is they have specialist locations and
services all over the Tri State, including walking orthopedic urgent
care at five locations with extended evening and weekend hours
in Edgewood and Anderson. Learn more at orthosinc dot com.
That's Ortho ci Ncy dot com. Doctor Jonathan Slaughter from

(01:03:57):
Ortho Sincy is with us. So a lot of people
have said this, he gets the PRP injection at the
outset of the off season instead of the procedure that
he's having, and so forget that he should have had
the procedure that he's having earlier in the off season
so he wouldn't have to miss any time in twenty
twenty six. Is that from your perspective? Is that a
fair way of looking at things from a fans perspective.

Speaker 12 (01:04:20):
It's a tough question and it comes down to where
this is where medicine is really an art. And then
when you're a sports doctor, it can complicate things because
now you have to figure out the timing not just
of the injury, but of the season and where they're at.
And so when he had this bone spurs and his

(01:04:41):
elbow with some loose bodies, you think, well, can we
treat this non operatively avoid the risk of surgery, And
that's what they kind of talked about and decided to try.
Could we do this peer p get the inflammation down,
maybe get some healing of it to where the we
don't have to undergo surgery. The problem is when that fails,

(01:05:04):
now the next step is the surgical procedure, and the
timeline is also thrown off.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
So having the surgery today, let's talk about the timeline
that has sort of been big part of the public discourse.
I guess fourteen to sixteen weeks. What will those roughly
three or four months look like for Hunter Green?

Speaker 12 (01:05:25):
Yeah, the first six weeks is basically just healing, recovery,
getting inflammation down, and maintaining motion and building strength, so
basically not picking up a ball. By six weeks. If
you's got good motion strength and the swelling and inflammation
is down, that's when you start a throwing program that
would start just flat ground light, lossing variable degrees of

(01:05:49):
distance as well as effort. Once you progress through the
flat phase, you then go up to the mound, starting
light effort, fastballs, progress up and the amount of pitches,
the amount of effort and strength, as well as mixing
in the other pitches that he.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Has once he gets back to maximum level throwing. Whenever
that is, is there a risk of the bone chips
reforming or there being some sort of aggravation of the
injury that could further delay his return and maybe put
his entire season in jeopardy.

Speaker 12 (01:06:26):
With this injury, it's called vougus extension overload, where when
the elbow goes through a vougus stress, which is what
you experience with throwing, and your arm goes into extension
at the end of the pitch, you get increased force
on the inside of the elbow and wolf slull is

(01:06:46):
what we discuss in orthopedics, where the bone reacts to
external stress and it builds more bone in that area.
And that's how you develop these bone spurs or what
we call osteophytes. He's going to continue to exert this
stress through pitching and he can redevelop those. Now I
doubt he would redevelop those in this year, but that

(01:07:08):
could be a future worry of developing more bone spurs,
and then those bone spurs can break and that's how
those loose bodies develop.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Hunter Green throws hard, and so when you talk about
his max effort, that means getting it up there one
hundred miles an hour even more. I know you're not
a pitching coach, you're a doctor. But from a medical
professionals perspective, is there a suggestion that he either changed
his mechanics or just not throws hard.

Speaker 12 (01:07:43):
From a medical perspective, you would always say you want
to avoid this stress that's causing the issue. Well, pitching
creates that stress, so he's not going to be able
to fully avoid the stress that causes these bone spurs.
And he's at the elite level. He's one of the
top pitchers, so his form as is is that an

(01:08:04):
elite form. He might make minor adjustments which I would
leave to the professional pitching coaches, but Overall, I don't
see him changing much of what got him to where
he is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Hunter Green is as awesome as he is when he
is healthy. Has now a very extensive injury history, Tommy
John surgery, a shoulder problem in twenty twenty to a
hip issue in twenty twenty three, elbow and growing twenty
twenty four to twenty twenty five, and now this, How
much is just the cumulative effect a concern here when

(01:08:37):
it comes to Hunter.

Speaker 12 (01:08:40):
A lot of it can also just be mental, the
mental effect of almost every year being on the il,
the toll it can take mentally. Again, he's an elite
athlete with elite trainers put in his body through maximum stress.
But it's one of those do you call him injury prone? Well,

(01:09:05):
once you start getting all these injuries, you know he
might be what you would call injury prone. But I
don't think there's anything biological to say, yeah, this is
why he keeps getting these injuries.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Well, but because I you know, I always think that's
the most fascinating part of this, right because as fans,
we go while he's injury prone, and I think often
luck is involved. But I always do wonder if there's
something physiological or biological that would suggest that maybe a
guy like Hunter just isn't going to have the sort
of long career that so many of us hope he's
going to have.

Speaker 12 (01:09:41):
Nothing biological. I think most of it is luck. I
think part of it is just the rigors of one
hundred and sixty plus games schedule or one hundred and
sixty two game schedule, as well as off season training
and what's demanded of them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
One more And this kind of goes back to something
you and I talked about last week. He was feeling
discomfort before spring training, but he still threw, still appeared
in a game. We'd love to go back in time,
I guess. But when a picture, whether it's at this
level or at the amateur level, is feeling that discomfort
from where you sit, how much do you recommend, Look,

(01:10:21):
don't get on the mound, don't pick up a ball,
don't throw. Let's look at this before we incur further
risk of something even more drastic than what we're dealing
with here.

Speaker 10 (01:10:32):
Big time.

Speaker 12 (01:10:32):
So I even just this weekend we had the Anderson
Little League managers meeting, and as a safety officer, I
was telling him, look, if your kid has elbow pain.
Best thing you can do for them is shutting down.
From a thrilling perspective. It doesn't mean you can't do
other baseball related activities, but at the first sign of inflammation,

(01:10:53):
the best thing you can do is rest at I sit,
take anti inflammatories, get the inflammation down. If that pain
continues after getting inflammation down, that's when you investigate further.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Makes total sense.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
I appreciate the insight consecutive weeks, doctor Jonathan Slaughter from
a Ortho Sinsey. Appreciate the time we will chat.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
I'm sure soon, Thank you, Mom.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Allight awesome expertise from doctor Jonathan Slaughter from Orthos Sinc.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
I say this every week because it's true.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
The great thing about Ortho Sinsey is they have specialists
and locations all over the Tri State. This includes walk
in orthopedic urgent care weekdays from nine am to nine
pm at on Saturdays nine am to one pm at
both Edgewood and Anderson. It's easy because you don't need
an appointment. It's definitely cheaper than going to an er.
Whenever you have an urgent orthopedic injury, go to Orthosinsey

(01:11:41):
dot com. That's Ortho ci Ncy dot com Taren, how
would we describe the last ninety seconds or so of
gameplay and regulation in Kansas City?

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
His poor management.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
They just collapsed, you see, took an eight point lead
with two seconds to go. I'm sorry, with a two
seventeen to go. Their next possessions, I don't think they've
gotten a shot up since there's been a ten second violation,
there have been turnovers. There have been turnovers while the
Bearcats had three timeouts. They have the ball in the
last possession and Wes Miller calls timeout. They put six

(01:12:18):
tenths of a second more back on the clock, but
they nearly had a They nearly dribbled the clock out
without getting a shot off. There are point eight seconds
to go. It's been an eight zip run over the
last two and change for UCF. The game was not one,

(01:12:38):
but UCF made it fifty eight to fifty two to
two oh sex to go, two o six to go.
Jisel had a turnover, UCF scored off of it. Then
a ten second violation. Over the course of an entire season,
how many ten second violations do you see? And the
ten second violation occurred with the Bearcats having three three

(01:13:02):
timeouts in their back pocket, UCF gets the ball, they score,
then Dade Thomas throws the ball away, UCF gets it,
they score, and Data has just missed a three point
shot at the end of regulation, So we're going to overtime.
Tied at fifty eight. There's no other way to put
that but a meltdown. They may still win this game,

(01:13:24):
but unfortunately what just happened over the last two minutes
is way too emblematic of the way the Bearcats played
in so many close games in November, December and January.
We're going to talk to Tony Pike at the Holy Grail,
which will be fun for everybody.

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Minutes to go.

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It goes without saying, regardless of what you feel like
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must win today.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
There's no getting around it.

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And frankly, this entire the entire season has occurred against
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If the NCAA tournament hopes get burst, the bubble gets
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(01:15:23):
did today. If you thought the screams were allowed before.
Oh boy, I believe UCF is going to the free
throw line with just over two minutes to go leading
by two. All right, a couple of other things, and
then we're supposed to check it with Tony Pike at
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earlier today in the SEC Tournament eighty seven to eighty
two Xavier and Marquette. Tonight Biggie's Tournament. We'll get to
all that here in justin bit a't Saint Patrick's Day
week at the Banks and the Saint Patrick's Day Parade
on Saturday features this year's Grand Marshall, my colleague, my friend,
and right now my my brother in angst Tony Pike.

(01:16:06):
He's at the Holy Grail right now for the ceremonial
keg tapping. Tony, what is the mood right now at
the Holy Grail? What's your mood like?

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Right now?

Speaker 13 (01:16:14):
It feels like the uh, the mood of the Bearcat
point guards for about the last ten minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
Of the game. Down by one day with a three.

Speaker 8 (01:16:23):
Day, they's done.

Speaker 13 (01:16:25):
It's it's a joyous atmosphere. I would have been a
lot more joyous if the Bearcats put a punctuation on
H on this game and punch their ticking in tomorrow.
But it's a good crowd, it's a it's obviously a
great environment. Should be fun here tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
All right, what what happens starting at six o'clock beyond
you hopefully celebrating the Bearcats advancing to uh to the
next round against Arizona.

Speaker 13 (01:16:46):
Oh, well, we've got uh. We're gonna have some bagpipes,
We're gonna have some cloggers, We're gonna have the ceremony,
ceremonial Guinness tag capping. Mo, We're gonna tap a tag
of Guinness, and uh, we're gonna enjoy some Guinness usually
term split the g things like that. And then I
believe there's a toast involved at some point that I'm
gonna have to give so it all gets underway at

(01:17:06):
six o'clock. The toast can either go one of two
ways based on how the last fifty five seconds of.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
The pouring aguinness. There's like an art to that. Have
you been given specific instructions?

Speaker 13 (01:17:19):
Yeah, So I'm gonna pour it about three quarters of
the way up. You're gonna have to let it settle
for about thirty seconds and then you're gonna have to
finish the poor and get that nice foam on the top.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Oh all right, So you'll be there tonight tapping the keg.
It gets underway at six o'clock. If if you see
doesn't win this game, because I can't imagine being in
your shoes there, because if they lose this game, honestly,
like I'm just I might just lock myself in this
studio and call home and say I'll see tomorrow. Should

(01:17:47):
we just tell people to leave you alone when it
comes to the game itself? Come by, say hi, talk
about the show, talk about your career, but let's leave
the game itself alone.

Speaker 13 (01:17:57):
Yeah, if you're gonna make it down here and this
thing doesn't go well, do not mention the game. I
got a little bit of a re free today Kentucky
Basketball one, which means unfortunately no since he three sixty tomorrow,
so I won't have to rehash this for three hours
on the air tomorrow, So please don't make me rehash
it tonight.

Speaker 8 (01:18:15):
Let's be festive.

Speaker 13 (01:18:16):
Let's let's kick off Saint Patrick's Day and have a
good night.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
And how stoked are you for Saturday, being the Grand
Marshal of the Saint Patty's Day Parade.

Speaker 8 (01:18:25):
It's it's pretty cool.

Speaker 13 (01:18:26):
It's a it's a parade. Obviously, being Irish on my
mom's side of the family, it's something we used to
come to. So, knowing how big of a of an
event it is in Cincinnati, knowing how Cincinnati always shows up,
it's always fun. I'm super excited.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
All right, do you want to watch the final this
final sequence together?

Speaker 13 (01:18:44):
All right, I'm a little ahead of you, so I
know I'm gonna tell you what what's what's coming up?

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
Isn't good?

Speaker 13 (01:18:49):
Out of a time.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Out on the on the right wing, and he he
throws it right.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
To UCS how out of a time out? Out of
a time out? All right? So, so UCF has the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
There's about a twelve thirteen twelve second differential between game
clock and shot clock. The Bearcats U seef has a timeout,
you see, has a time out. Oh god, ten seconds
on the shot clock. Oh that doesn't sound good. That
doesn't sound good at all.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
Four to shoot.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Here's Coogler with a drive. His shot is no good,
rebounded by Chom's got it. Chim's got at Cincinnati Are
we calling time out? Are we calling time out? Pass
ahead to Celestine free from the wing, grazes the front
of the rim, Cincinnati commits a foul, UCF is gonna
shoot one point three seconds to go.

Speaker 13 (01:19:44):
I don't know, maybe take the time out.

Speaker 11 (01:19:46):
Maybe.

Speaker 13 (01:19:46):
I guess it's not bad because you got to look
in transition. But it's just what a what a dagger
of a way to end such a disappointing basketball season.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
I'm calling a time out there, and I understand, like, hey,
let them play, don't let uc F said their defense,
don't let them sub. But with the way things unfolded
and all those possessions at the end of regulation, with
as bad as they've been with the ball that is,
that was close to their twentieth turnover.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
I am I'm drawing something up.

Speaker 13 (01:20:19):
They had three three turnovers from the point guards and
had three time outs left, just absolute meltdown by Look,
Gisel and Data are veteran guys. You've got to count
on those guys in march.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
But you, uh, you watch you watch a ton of
college basketball. How many ten second violations do you see?

Speaker 13 (01:20:37):
Not many. I also don't see the point guard usually
giving the ball up to your center at the top
of the key with three seconds left in regulation, just
nothing going to the basket, no aggressiveness, just frustrating on
all accounts. All right, I let them off tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
Do you wanna do you wanna? Do you wanna fil
you want to fail? If you've you've missed a lot,
there's been a lot going on. The first free throw
is no good. Yeah, you're ahead of me. You're laughing,
you're you. It's a sinister laugh. So you know you
know how this ends? Yeah, all right, still Wells, still
Wells at the free throw line for the the second

(01:21:15):
of two UCF was in the double bonus. The second
free throw is in the air. What we're doing is
probably illegal. The ball is tipped, it gets chased down
by Celestine, the clock expires. Cincinnati's NCAA tournament hopes go
up and smoke on a game that that, frankly, was

(01:21:37):
reflective of so many that the Bearcats lost earlier this season. Tony,
have fun tonight. We'll tell people to come see at
the grail and enjoy your day off tomorrow. All right, No,
I don't know, and I we have what we call
in this business counter programming, right, which we often do it.
We often do it when the Reds are playing a

(01:21:59):
day game, where it's like, all right, you gotta do
Bengal stuff. I don't. I think I've built up enough equity.
And if you're in the audience, you know I love
UC basketball. I don't know how good of a last
twenty minutes of the show that was. But I don't

(01:22:21):
know that I could do justice what I just watched,
but I will try. Tarren, how are we on time?
I know we skipped a break there. How we how
are we doing on time?

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
We have about three minutes left in the show, so.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
We're not gonna have time to hear from anybody in
Kansas City. It's gonna say, spend the next two minutes
calling Chad Brendle. Chad's on the show on Thursdays. That'll
that'll be fun. UC took the lead with just over
two minutes to go and then proceeded. I'm not sure
they I don't know that they got a shot off

(01:22:54):
in the final two minutes of regulation. And the way
the Bearcats have played over the last month has been
really good, and then they've they've entered the conversation to
be in the tournament. But what put them such behind
the eight ball, what put them in the position that

(01:23:15):
they've been playing from behind for weeks has been the
fact that there were so many games where down the stretch,
games that were there for the taking, they either melted
down or just didn't make the play or stop scoring
or turned it over.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
Whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
Today looked like pick your worst version of that from
back in January or back in December.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
Today took the cake.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
And you know, I've been asked fifteen times a day
for the last couple of weeks, like what's going to
happen with Wes? Because a month ago it felt like
he was a dead man walking. A month ago it
felt like it was almost inevitable. And then with every
single win and the closer they've played themselves to the bubble,
it feels like there's been some degree of momentum for
him to keep his job. And now I kind of
felt like, dude, lose to Utah and conversation shifts again.

(01:24:09):
They didn't losing today in the manner in which they did,
where some very legitimate strategic decisions are going to be
discussed deep into the night. Today did not help Wes Miller.
It most definitely did not help him in the court
of public opinion, and it is fair to wonder what

(01:24:30):
today did for the people who are making decisions about
his future. All I will say is this, because we're
going to have a lot of time to talk about
this tomorrow. Whatever they do, do it quick. Timing's important here. Unfortunately,
our time is up sixty six to sixty five. The

(01:24:54):
final score an absolute meltdown. There's no other way to
put it, an absolutely meltdown. I appreciate you putting up
with this. We did some other stuff that I thought
was okay. We'll have more time tomorrow. UK Hoops will
put us on the air a little bit before four o'clock.
Robert Wintraub's on the show. We'll do some FC Cincinnati
and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots

(01:25:16):
of Chad Brundle. Have a great night. Thanks to Tarren
Bland for producing. Thanks to you for listening. This is
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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