May 4, 2026 • 28 mins
The Bucs break out the brooms, Brendan Sorsby lawyers up, and here comes FC Cincinnati. Where does the Reds' offense come from when Sal Stewart isn't carrying it?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You have played Little league or sandlot baseball, if you
have been a parent of a kid who plays Little
league or sandlot baseball.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
If you are.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Currently a Little league or sand lot.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Baseball player, then you know exactly what Saturday was like
in Pittsburgh. Or the Reds tied a Major League record
with seven consecutive walks, We've all been there. If you
have spent any time around youth baseball, and I will
be painfully honest, it's been a while since I spent
any time around youth baseball, because well, I have a daughter,
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she's almost nine years old. She doesn't play baseball, and
so I have no compelling reason to go to a
lot of youth baseball games. But I played in a
bunch when I was a kid, and watching Rhet Louder
and Connor Phillips on Saturday made me remember when a
kid by the name of Brian Dettweiler when I was
in the fifth grade, Brian Dettweiler wanted to pitch, and
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they finally let him pitch, and on the day that
he pitched, everybody made a big deal about it. When
he finally got to pitch, he could not throw a strike.
I remember standing in center field, just like imploring him,
watching the body language of my teammates, and more than anything,
with each non strike, which with each ball that didn't
come close to the strike zone, just hearing the groans
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in the crowd. That was in nineteen eighty eight. Thirty
eight years later, two major league pitchers, two major league
Reds pitchers, made me think of what it was like
to watch Brian Dettwiler not throw strikes. Good afternoon, Ilmueger,
This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Thanks for listening today. Hope
you had a great weekend. Lots went down this weekend.
We had an incredible Kentucky Derby. We had a fun
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flying Pig race weekend. We had an iconic performance from
Evander three points for FC Cincinnati, and we had the
Reds getting swept in Pittsburgh. Remember Friday's show. It was fun.
We were at Belterra Park and we spent a lot
of time talking about the Reds and their chances of
getting to ninety wins. Like that was the thing we
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did on this show, discussing their bona fides, discussing their
staying power, discussing the chances of getting to ninety victories.
That was just three days ago. We're not really doing
that today now, are we. Unfortunately the answer is no. Look,
even when the Reds were playing well, and I guess
this is what we're gonna get to today. A few
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different things. One is simply this question with the Reds
in Chicago tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
By the way, if if.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
You're paying attention to this evening and what time the
game's gonna start or maybe for not, I guess they've
moved up the first pitch. It was going to be
a seven to forty Eastern time game. I guess they're
expecting storms later tonight in Chicago, so they'll play this
evening at sevent ten.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Was this weekend no big deal?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Or was this weekend the sign of the wheels starting
to fall off? Time will tell, But I'm interested in
what you think in five point three, seven, four, nine,
fifteen thirty, because even when the Reds were winning, even
when the Reds were winning twenty of their first thirty
one games, you had to acknowledge some stuff that might
be a little bit easier to talk about now. And
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that's the fact that this team has shaky starting pitching.
Shaky starting pitching because of injury. Nicko Lodolo is scheduled
to come back this week, which is good, but shaky
starting pitching. There's an experience, there's youth, there's some guys
who this season just haven't been that reliable as shaky
starting pitching. This was true on Friday, it's true today,
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and offensively they have issues. That was a true statement
on opening day. It's a true statement ten days into
the season. It was a true statement. Three weeks into
the season. It's a true statement late last week. It's
a true statement today. Offensively, this team has issues. And
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so here's another question. Where is the offense going to
come from? Sal Stewart the National League Rookie of the
Month for the month of April. Now for weeks the
answer has been Sal, Stuart and Elie Dela Cruz putting
up good numbers carrying this offense. Inevitably, there was going
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to be a dip in production with Sal specifically. Maybe
the league was going to catch up to him. Maybe
it's just a bad stretch, a bad series. But you
know what has made his season to date so impressive,
and we have talked about this, but what has made
his season to date so impressive has been the fact
that not only has he been statistically very good. Not
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only does he not look like he's in over his head,
but he is doing what he is doing and he's
carried the team. And that's not meant to discredit anybody
because Ellie Dela Cruz is also having a good season.
But it was fair to wonder what happens when Sal
Stewart cools off. Where is the offense going to come from?
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Who is the offense going to come from? Are the
answers limited to what they currently have on the roster
right now? Could the answers include some guys who are
in Louisville? Could the answers include some guys who are
currently playing for other teams?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Where's the offense going to come from? And when they're winning?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Like, I know how this works, right when they're winning,
we'll worry about that later they're winning, Hey, they're okay, cool?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
What happens when they're not? And it's just three games.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
It's a very good chance this team was not going
to go through the entire season without getting swept. But
there's a few different issues that manifested themselves this week
in Pittsburgh. One is that the starting pitching is shaky,
Brady Singer is shaky. Ratt Lauder, who on Saturday made
his thirteenth big league start in large part because of inexperience,
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is shaky game to game. This is true with an
Andrew Abbott. This is true with Rat Louder. This has
been true with Brandon Williamson, who unfortunately is on the
injured list. It's been true with Brady Singer. It's maybe
less true with Chase Burns, who was terrific yesterday. But
game in, game out, like, you have no idea what
you're gonna get from the Red starting pitcher. That's not
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a thing that we can say in June and July
and August and have realistic expectations that this team is
going to compete for something meaningful. It's also fair to
wonder where is the offense going to come from? This
team is twenty third in leadoff hitter ops. That's ops
from hitters in the top spot of the batting order,
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twenty third in all of baseball, and leadoff hitter ops
the two hole there twentieth. The Reds are right now.
Red's third base is the least least productive position. Least productive.
I'm me do this again. Red's third basemen our least
productive are there. Red's third base production is worse than
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the league. I'm as good at talking as the Reds
are good at doing everything right now. Red's third base
production is worst in the league. The ops among Red's
third basemen worst in the league. The ops among Red's
right fielders worst in the league.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
We're now trying JJ bleda out there.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
The non ending, never ending spinning wheel of options the
Reds could use in the outfield continued this week. Reese Hines.
We spent about two days hoping he could be the
save here. That's not going to be the case. Blake
done his back for either cup of coffee, god knows
what number, or maybe that guy could stick for a while.
Your guess is as good as mine. But the Reds
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are getting league worst production from two positions, two positions
that you typically associate with some level of offense. Dead
last at third, dead last in right field, by the way,
for what it's worth, twenty fifth at second base. That's
primarily Matt McClain catcher twenty six. So like there's a
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whole lot of areas on the team, and like in
like Matt McClain's case, I mentioned two whole production just
twenty if best I mentioned second base production twenty fifth best.
So that's one guy that you can you could point
at twice. But there's a lot of areas on this
team where this where they're just getting well below league
average offensive production and in two cases right field in
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third base worst in all of baseball production. These things
are not sustainable. These things are not sustainable if the
idea is to genuinely compete in the National League Central
and Man, look, this team has been terrific in one
run games, in extra inning games, in two run games.
They haven't lost a game decided by two runs or less.
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That's terrific. Right now, I guess they lost yesterday, so
I'm coming into yesterday. They were undefeated in games decided
by two runs less. Finally, lose one nothing yesterday. Chase
Burns was terrific. Red still lose a ballgame. Where's the
offense going to come from? Where is the offense going
to come from? And where's the offense going to come from?
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If salth Stewart's not batting, salth Stewart's allowed a batting slump,
salth Stewart is allowed to go through what a lot
of rookies go through, which is a wide swing of
ups and downs. Right now, it feels like the league
is calling up to him a little bit. How does
he adjust to that? Salth Stewart still has every chance
to be the National League Rookie of the Year. Salth
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Stewart has every chance to still be a very, very
good hitter. But they've asked him to do a lot
right now he seems incapable of doing what he has
been doing. So where does the offense come from? Does
it come from within? Does it come from the big
league roster is currently constructed right now?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
And if the answer is yes, then.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Well from who specifically, because there are a lot of
players on this team who's poor to twenty twenty six
production mirrors either what we saw from them all of
last year, or what we saw from them in the
second half of last season, or in kee Brian Hayes's case,
what we've come to expect from that player. Where's the
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offense going to come from? Five point three seven four
nine fifteen thirty is our phone number? Eight six six
seven h two three seven seven six works as well.
The shakiness of the starting pitching gets rectified by better
health and the accumulation of experience, and maybe there's a
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time later this year, maybe it's by the time he
makes his next start where we talked about Ret Louder
and how poorly he pitched on Saturday, and we all
just go, you know what, just one of those days.
That is my hope, and frankly, that's my assumption that
we're going to do that. But in what is supposed
to be a playoff or bust year or NL Central
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Division title or bust year, boy, there's still a lot
of unknowns, still a lot of variables that you can't
wrap your brain around, still a lot of inexperience, and
still a lot of guys that are starting to develop
ah track record of not being very productive. None of
this is intended to sound like an overreaction to a
three games series in Pittsburgh that just went awry. At
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the same time, a lot of the themes that have
come out of that series were there when they were winning.
I think they're just easier to confront now that they're not.
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that is being held hostage, and so much more. There's
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Brendan Sorosby story, so he has retained attorney Jeff Kessler
to try to regain his college eligibility. This according to
ESPN's Pete Damil and Adam Scheffer. As you know, Soarsby
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currently owner ncbla investigation for sports gambling. The school announced
on Monday Texas Tech did that Soorsby is checking into
a residential treatment program for a gambling addiction. Kessler is
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Players Association on behalf of, among others, Tom Brady, Ray,
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bounty gate players. That's Brendan Soresby's attorney. We have our
legal guy on, attorney Store W. Penrose from Manila Law
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Group tomorrow and we're going to talk in greater detail
about this right now. Obviously, hear the angle that most
care about, myself included is the UC angle. What could
this mean for the University of Cincinnati. And maybe I'm
on an island here.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I find it.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I find it hard to believe that if you are
worried about this story, the knowledge that Brendan Soresby was
potentially or allegedly violating NCAA rules, if that knowledge got
to John Cunningham's office, I find it hard to believe.
And you could say what you want about him as
an administrator, and many will find it hard to believe
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that some somebody whose career is tied to ensuring that
the school doesn't get an NCAA hot water is going
to sit on that knowledge and not do anything about it.
That just strains credibility as far as I'm concerned. If
time proves that I'm wrong, then I'll certainly acknowledge that
I am. Would not be the first time, Robbie won't
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be the last, but just worth where this sits right now.
And I had two conversations with people who I would
say are close to the situation, and I said, like,
I don't know, man. I found her harder to believe
that John Cunningham, knowing what the possible ramifications would be
for sitting on it, and then having it come out
that he was sitting on this knowledge that Brendan Sorosby
was violating n CUBA rules. I find her hard to
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believe that he would sit on that and not do
anything about it, knowing what he would have to lose.
And both folks that I talked to who are close
to the situation concurred. Then there's the Soresby part of
this Number one. He has not yet been declared ineligible
lawyering up would certainly that he understands that that possibility exists,
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and it certainly feels like that is as of right now,
the most likely outcome that he has declared permanently ineligible
to play college football, and then what he does with
the supplemental Draft or what he does in relation to
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Your guess is as good as mine. I am not
a legal scholar.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I'm not a scholar of anything, but this does seem
like it's going to be relatively open and shut. Was
he gambling feels like the answer is yes. Was he
gambling on things that he is prohibited by the NCAA
rules to gamble on? The answer is either yes or no.
If the answer is yes, then his he's not eligible anymore.
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It guess there's there's sometimes when it comes to NCAA cases,
there's there's gray area, and there's ambiguity, and then there
doesn't feel like there's a lot here. Now there's a
difference between was he gambling and was he gambling on
things that would be in violation of the NCUBA rules.
For instance, he's allowed to bet on NASCAR, he's allowed
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to bet on UFC. My understanding is he's allowed to
bet on horses because those are things that are not
NCAA sanctioned championship events. But the NCAA has sanction championship
events in baseball, so can he bet on Major League Baseball?
Speaker 5 (17:17):
No?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Football? So can he bet on college football?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
No?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
So there is a difference, But just common sense would
dictate that if he's betting, and he's betting on NASCAR,
and he's betting on UFC, the chances are that's at
some point going to seep into areas that he's not allowed.
And it's been reported that he was betting on pitch
outcomes in Cincinnati Reds games while at Great American Ballpark,
And again none of us know specifically to what extent
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he was gambling. I'm not going to say anything that's irresponsible,
but it does feel like this is pretty cut and dry.
Was he gambling, yes, by his own admission, What was
he gambling on? And then there's a whole bunch of
things that if he says I was gambling on them,
he's not eligible anymore. I'm again, I'm not a lawyer.
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That won't surprise anybody to hear, not a legal scholar.
I certainly understand the reputation and accomplishment of the lawyer
that he has retained. But there's my sort of dumb
guy from the couch question, Okay, did he bet on
something that he shouldn't have? Did he bet on something
that the NCAA says he's not allowed to bet on it?
The answer is yes, okay, cool, but not eligible to
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play college football anymore. And then going to what's next,
We'll see if it turns out to be that cut
and dry. This story is not going anywhere. Seventeen minutes
away from four o'clock.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
We got to pull a question.
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And uh.
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Speaker 4 (19:26):
Five point three seven four nine, fifteen thirty is our
number eight sixty six seven oh two three seven seven six? Uh?
Why not, Mike, Mike, You're on ESPN fifteen thirty. Good afternoon, Mike,
how are you?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
My God? Heaven? That was the fastest response in the
history of the Mollager.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Well, I I have a slight bone to pick with you.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Whats go ahead?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Well, yesterday I was running errands.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Is that too?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Go to the grocery store?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
And I was listening to Sunday Morning Sports Talk Down
the Hall with Mike Petrelia. Mike Petrellia was talking about
his ramp in Philadelphia seventy six ers fandom, which is fine,
And I heard you tell him you hope the Sixers
advance and beat the New York Knicks.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
It hurts, I do hurts.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Oh well, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
But you know all that we've been through together, it hurts.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
The Sixers haven't been haven't even snipped him at least
you've been somewhat close over the last few years, close
to what so So, how are you going to handle mbat?
How are you going to do Coach Towns ain't gonna
do it.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Nobody's going to handle him.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Robinson not No nobody's nobody's going to handle him.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
What's going to handle him? As the calendar?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, and as you do to get hurt again. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
I mean like, look when when when fully healthy they
can't stop him? When when fully healthy, there's nobody who can.
But he doesn't play.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Back to that game, Wendy might be able to.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Well, A lot would have to happen for that matchup
to happen.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Philly m B doesn't play in back to backs, so
he's gonna play. If this series gets to a six game,
they will have played eleven games in twenty one days.
He will have played personally in nine games in two weeks.
I am skeptical that his body could hold up. Now,
what I'm not skeptical of is how great Tyrese Maxy is.
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And he's a problem as well. If this was simply
about starting fives, I would pick Philadelphia, but it's not,
and so I will take the team that is deeper.
I will take the team that is playing very well,
and I'll take the team that doesn't have a large
injury question mark covering over it's arguably its best player, and.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
You do have the home court advantage, so.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
They do, and that hasn't met nearly as much the
would Nicks have been weird at home in the postseason,
they've been really good on the road. That that, to
me isn't as much of a factor. But yeah, and
if MB gets through this series healthy, nobody's stopping him.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
But no team in the league leans on its starters more.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
They're gonna play tonight, Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday before an
extra day between games four and five. I believe that
schedule will catch up to him. I think the Knicks
win the series in six.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
What worries me about the Knicks, to tell you the truth,
is their defense on their guard play.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Yes, no, no, Tyrese Maxie will abuse them. And they
played in the playoffs two years ago and scored forty
five in Game five and won the game by himself, Like,
there's nobody on that team that can get in front
of him now. I would also say this, I'm not
sure how Philly defends the Knicks when Karl Anthony Towns
is being used the way he is. I'm not sure
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how Philly defends the Knicks if the mchel bridges at
the last two games of the series against Atlanta shows up.
I mean and again, Like, if you make it about
starting five versus starting five, it's hard to pick against Philadelphia.
But when you incorporate the bench decided advantage New York, yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Can become a big deal. You know, I was kind
of patronizing Mike.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Just all right, that's okay, now, man, look at you're
you're you're you're rooting for the Sixers.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
That's all right.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Well, he brought up. You know, as much as I hated,
I loved the Sixers until I began't move after Vietnam
and got that way.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I thought I thought we were boys. I thought we
were tight. But now you tell Mike Pa you're in
for his team, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Well, yeah, what he said. He said his favorite sixer
of all time was Andrew Tony from Southwest Louisiana State.
And I have to admit, Andrew Tony had one of
the hey and Bernard King had two of the most
beautiful jump shots I have ever seen in my life.
Other than other than.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Kurt, Andrew Tony was the heck of a player who
unfortunately was befelled by having bad feet.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
You are correct, Yeah, he was.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
He was something else, and I'll never forget that team
with Bobby Jones and Doctor Jay and Chocolate Thunder and
Calwell Jones coming off the bench, and we can go
on and Mo Cheeks, my boy, Moe Cheeks, Little Mo.
I love that name. You ought to love that guy,
Mo Cheeks, I do.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
I absolutely love Maurice Cheeks. Do you know which team
Maurice Cheeks is on the staff of No? I don't.
He's a New York Knicks assistant coach. That's all right,
go go go root for your six ers.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
That's okay, Mike, Yeah, I better here comes a policeman.
I'd better put my phone down right now before.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
We're boring everybody with this NBA conversation. There's anything else
you'd like to talk about?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yes? Do you think that the Reds lack of interaction
with the Central Division other than that initial series with
Pittsburgh open here? Do you think that that's gonna end
up working against him? Because right now I'm telling you
Oliver Garmel or whatever. Marmel. Yeah, if they did the
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Manager of the Year, he's gonna.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Limit well if they did it now, without it without
a doubt, Yes, with without a doubt.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Where did the Cardinals come from breaking out?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:16):
I mean, they just took that Pittsburgh team to beat
the Reds three straight. Saint Louis went to Pittsburgh and
won four consecutive and then did a number up until
yesterday on your Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
And I mean them. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
So you know, JJ Weatherholt is getting Rookie of the
Year buzz even though his numbers don't look like Sal Stewart's.
Alec Burlerson's having a terrific year. Jordan Walker's having a
terrific year, Like I give him a lot of credit.
I will believe until there's enough of a sample size
to convince me otherwise that the Saint Louis Cardinals still
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finish in last place in this division.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Do you have a certain amount of animosity for them,
or do you have an.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Immense amount of respect an immense amount of respect for
not that they do everything right. I thought a couple
of years ago they escaped good to Mike shild unfairly.
But they're never truly awful. You know, I would say
this about the Reds ten years ago. You can't drag
fans through just you know, season after season after season
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of losing ninety plus games. When the Cardinals are bad,
they don't do that. I mean they there's a constant
turn of quality big leaguers that come through that system.
They have been relevant for most of my life. It
pains me to say, yeah, I have an immense amount
of respect for the Saint Louis Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I do too. And and to end the call, because
I know you got to go my two favorite sportscasters
of all times sports talk radio. You know you're number.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
One, Michael Trelia. Mike Petrellia is number one. You were
telling them, telling them how great he was.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, I don't know as much a he fills in here.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Oh, here we go. Mike Petrelli is awesome at what
he does, and so is ken Brew.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, brews are I can do without the music on Tondre.
But anyway, I just lost, so I was gonna sell
you and Romy those are the two best ever ever.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Well that's not that's Rackham, that's not remotely true. Mike
throwing shade at our guy. Ken Brew just got in
the car yesterday morning. There was Mike Petrelli you talking
about his beloved seventy six ers, and I'd forgotten he's
such a big Sixers fan. So he and I will
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be on opposite ends of things for the next week
or so. Twenty twenty six and twenty twenty three are
on the opposite ends of things when it comes to
Matt McClain, and this guy's very important to this team,
or at least he's supposed to be, but he can't
be if he continues to hit the way he has been.
And we'll spend more time on that next On ESPN
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You have played Little league or sandlot baseball, if you
have been a parent of a kid who plays Little
league or sandlot baseball.
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If you are.
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Currently a Little league or sand lot.
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Baseball player, then you know exactly what Saturday was like
in Pittsburgh. Or the Reds tied a Major League record
with seven consecutive walks, We've all been there. If you
have spent any time around youth baseball, and I will
be painfully honest, it's been a while since I spent
any time around youth baseball, because well, I have a daughter,
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she's almost nine years old. She doesn't play baseball, and
so I have no compelling reason to go to a
lot of youth baseball games. But I played in a
bunch when I was a kid, and watching Rhet Louder
and Connor Phillips on Saturday made me remember when a
kid by the name of Brian Dettweiler when I was
in the fifth grade, Brian Dettweiler wanted to pitch, and
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they finally let him pitch, and on the day that
he pitched, everybody made a big deal about it. When
he finally got to pitch, he could not throw a strike.
I remember standing in center field, just like imploring him,
watching the body language of my teammates, and more than anything,
with each non strike, which with each ball that didn't
come close to the strike zone, just hearing the groans
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in the crowd. That was in nineteen eighty eight. Thirty
eight years later, two major league pitchers, two major league
Reds pitchers, made me think of what it was like
to watch Brian Dettwiler not throw strikes. Good afternoon, Ilmueger,
This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Thanks for listening today. Hope
you had a great weekend. Lots went down this weekend.
We had an incredible Kentucky Derby. We had a fun
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flying Pig race weekend. We had an iconic performance from
Evander three points for FC Cincinnati, and we had the
Reds getting swept in Pittsburgh. Remember Friday's show. It was fun.
We were at Belterra Park and we spent a lot
of time talking about the Reds and their chances of
getting to ninety wins. Like that was the thing we
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did on this show, discussing their bona fides, discussing their
staying power, discussing the chances of getting to ninety victories.
That was just three days ago. We're not really doing
that today now, are we. Unfortunately the answer is no. Look,
even when the Reds were playing well, and I guess
this is what we're gonna get to today. A few
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different things. One is simply this question with the Reds
in Chicago tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
By the way, if if.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
You're paying attention to this evening and what time the
game's gonna start or maybe for not, I guess they've
moved up the first pitch. It was going to be
a seven to forty Eastern time game. I guess they're
expecting storms later tonight in Chicago, so they'll play this
evening at sevent ten.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Was this weekend no big deal?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Or was this weekend the sign of the wheels starting
to fall off? Time will tell, But I'm interested in
what you think in five point three, seven, four, nine,
fifteen thirty, because even when the Reds were winning, even
when the Reds were winning twenty of their first thirty
one games, you had to acknowledge some stuff that might
be a little bit easier to talk about now. And
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that's the fact that this team has shaky starting pitching.
Shaky starting pitching because of injury. Nicko Lodolo is scheduled
to come back this week, which is good, but shaky
starting pitching. There's an experience, there's youth, there's some guys
who this season just haven't been that reliable as shaky
starting pitching. This was true on Friday, it's true today,
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and offensively they have issues. That was a true statement
on opening day. It's a true statement ten days into
the season. It was a true statement. Three weeks into
the season. It's a true statement late last week. It's
a true statement today. Offensively, this team has issues. And
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so here's another question. Where is the offense going to
come from? Sal Stewart the National League Rookie of the
Month for the month of April. Now for weeks the
answer has been Sal, Stuart and Elie Dela Cruz putting
up good numbers carrying this offense. Inevitably, there was going
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to be a dip in production with Sal specifically. Maybe
the league was going to catch up to him. Maybe
it's just a bad stretch, a bad series. But you
know what has made his season to date so impressive,
and we have talked about this, but what has made
his season to date so impressive has been the fact
that not only has he been statistically very good. Not
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only does he not look like he's in over his head,
but he is doing what he is doing and he's
carried the team. And that's not meant to discredit anybody
because Ellie Dela Cruz is also having a good season.
But it was fair to wonder what happens when Sal
Stewart cools off. Where is the offense going to come from?
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Who is the offense going to come from? Are the
answers limited to what they currently have on the roster
right now? Could the answers include some guys who are
in Louisville? Could the answers include some guys who are
currently playing for other teams?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Where's the offense going to come from? And when they're winning?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Like, I know how this works, right when they're winning,
we'll worry about that later they're winning, Hey, they're okay, cool?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
What happens when they're not? And it's just three games.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
It's a very good chance this team was not going
to go through the entire season without getting swept. But
there's a few different issues that manifested themselves this week
in Pittsburgh. One is that the starting pitching is shaky,
Brady Singer is shaky. Ratt Lauder, who on Saturday made
his thirteenth big league start in large part because of inexperience,
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is shaky game to game. This is true with an
Andrew Abbott. This is true with Rat Louder. This has
been true with Brandon Williamson, who unfortunately is on the
injured list. It's been true with Brady Singer. It's maybe
less true with Chase Burns, who was terrific yesterday. But
game in, game out, like, you have no idea what
you're gonna get from the Red starting pitcher. That's not
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a thing that we can say in June and July
and August and have realistic expectations that this team is
going to compete for something meaningful. It's also fair to
wonder where is the offense going to come from? This
team is twenty third in leadoff hitter ops. That's ops
from hitters in the top spot of the batting order,
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twenty third in all of baseball, and leadoff hitter ops
the two hole there twentieth. The Reds are right now.
Red's third base is the least least productive position. Least productive.
I'm me do this again. Red's third basemen our least
productive are there. Red's third base production is worse than
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the league. I'm as good at talking as the Reds
are good at doing everything right now. Red's third base
production is worst in the league. The ops among Red's
third basemen worst in the league. The ops among Red's
right fielders worst in the league.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
We're now trying JJ bleda out there.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
The non ending, never ending spinning wheel of options the
Reds could use in the outfield continued this week. Reese Hines.
We spent about two days hoping he could be the
save here. That's not going to be the case. Blake
done his back for either cup of coffee, god knows
what number, or maybe that guy could stick for a while.
Your guess is as good as mine. But the Reds
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are getting league worst production from two positions, two positions
that you typically associate with some level of offense. Dead
last at third, dead last in right field, by the way,
for what it's worth, twenty fifth at second base. That's
primarily Matt McClain catcher twenty six. So like there's a
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whole lot of areas on the team, and like in
like Matt McClain's case, I mentioned two whole production just
twenty if best I mentioned second base production twenty fifth best.
So that's one guy that you can you could point
at twice. But there's a lot of areas on this
team where this where they're just getting well below league
average offensive production and in two cases right field in
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third base worst in all of baseball production. These things
are not sustainable. These things are not sustainable if the
idea is to genuinely compete in the National League Central
and Man, look, this team has been terrific in one
run games, in extra inning games, in two run games.
They haven't lost a game decided by two runs or less.
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That's terrific. Right now, I guess they lost yesterday, so
I'm coming into yesterday. They were undefeated in games decided
by two runs less. Finally, lose one nothing yesterday. Chase
Burns was terrific. Red still lose a ballgame. Where's the
offense going to come from? Where is the offense going
to come from? And where's the offense going to come from?
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If salth Stewart's not batting, salth Stewart's allowed a batting slump,
salth Stewart is allowed to go through what a lot
of rookies go through, which is a wide swing of
ups and downs. Right now, it feels like the league
is calling up to him a little bit. How does
he adjust to that? Salth Stewart still has every chance
to be the National League Rookie of the Year. Salth
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Stewart has every chance to still be a very, very
good hitter. But they've asked him to do a lot
right now he seems incapable of doing what he has
been doing. So where does the offense come from? Does
it come from within? Does it come from the big
league roster is currently constructed right now?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
And if the answer is yes, then.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Well from who specifically, because there are a lot of
players on this team who's poor to twenty twenty six
production mirrors either what we saw from them all of
last year, or what we saw from them in the
second half of last season, or in kee Brian Hayes's case,
what we've come to expect from that player. Where's the
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offense going to come from? Five point three seven four
nine fifteen thirty is our phone number? Eight six six
seven h two three seven seven six works as well.
The shakiness of the starting pitching gets rectified by better
health and the accumulation of experience, and maybe there's a
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time later this year, maybe it's by the time he
makes his next start where we talked about Ret Louder
and how poorly he pitched on Saturday, and we all
just go, you know what, just one of those days.
That is my hope, and frankly, that's my assumption that
we're going to do that. But in what is supposed
to be a playoff or bust year or NL Central
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Division title or bust year, boy, there's still a lot
of unknowns, still a lot of variables that you can't
wrap your brain around, still a lot of inexperience, and
still a lot of guys that are starting to develop
ah track record of not being very productive. None of
this is intended to sound like an overreaction to a
three games series in Pittsburgh that just went awry. At
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the same time, a lot of the themes that have
come out of that series were there when they were winning.
I think they're just easier to confront now that they're not.
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Brendan Sorosby story, so he has retained attorney Jeff Kessler
to try to regain his college eligibility. This according to
ESPN's Pete Damil and Adam Scheffer. As you know, Soarsby
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currently owner ncbla investigation for sports gambling. The school announced
on Monday Texas Tech did that Soorsby is checking into
a residential treatment program for a gambling addiction. Kessler is
a prominent antitrust attorney was strong with a strong record
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Players Association on behalf of, among others, Tom Brady, Ray,
Rice Ezekiel Elliott, Adrian Peterson, and the New Orleans Saints
bounty gate players. That's Brendan Soresby's attorney. We have our
legal guy on, attorney Store W. Penrose from Manila Law
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Group tomorrow and we're going to talk in greater detail
about this right now. Obviously, hear the angle that most
care about, myself included is the UC angle. What could
this mean for the University of Cincinnati. And maybe I'm
on an island here.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I find it.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I find it hard to believe that if you are
worried about this story, the knowledge that Brendan Soresby was
potentially or allegedly violating NCAA rules, if that knowledge got
to John Cunningham's office, I find it hard to believe.
And you could say what you want about him as
an administrator, and many will find it hard to believe
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that some somebody whose career is tied to ensuring that
the school doesn't get an NCAA hot water is going
to sit on that knowledge and not do anything about it.
That just strains credibility as far as I'm concerned. If
time proves that I'm wrong, then I'll certainly acknowledge that
I am. Would not be the first time, Robbie won't
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be the last, but just worth where this sits right now.
And I had two conversations with people who I would
say are close to the situation, and I said, like,
I don't know, man. I found her harder to believe
that John Cunningham, knowing what the possible ramifications would be
for sitting on it, and then having it come out
that he was sitting on this knowledge that Brendan Sorosby
was violating n CUBA rules. I find her hard to
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believe that he would sit on that and not do
anything about it, knowing what he would have to lose.
And both folks that I talked to who are close
to the situation concurred. Then there's the Soresby part of
this Number one. He has not yet been declared ineligible
lawyering up would certainly that he understands that that possibility exists,
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and it certainly feels like that is as of right now,
the most likely outcome that he has declared permanently ineligible
to play college football, and then what he does with
the supplemental Draft or what he does in relation to
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Your guess is as good as mine. I am not
a legal scholar.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I'm not a scholar of anything, but this does seem
like it's going to be relatively open and shut. Was
he gambling feels like the answer is yes. Was he
gambling on things that he is prohibited by the NCAA
rules to gamble on? The answer is either yes or no.
If the answer is yes, then his he's not eligible anymore.
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It guess there's there's sometimes when it comes to NCAA cases,
there's there's gray area, and there's ambiguity, and then there
doesn't feel like there's a lot here. Now there's a
difference between was he gambling and was he gambling on
things that would be in violation of the NCUBA rules.
For instance, he's allowed to bet on NASCAR, he's allowed
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to bet on UFC. My understanding is he's allowed to
bet on horses because those are things that are not
NCAA sanctioned championship events. But the NCAA has sanction championship
events in baseball, so can he bet on Major League Baseball?
Speaker 5 (17:17):
No?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Football? So can he bet on college football?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
No?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
So there is a difference, But just common sense would
dictate that if he's betting, and he's betting on NASCAR,
and he's betting on UFC, the chances are that's at
some point going to seep into areas that he's not allowed.
And it's been reported that he was betting on pitch
outcomes in Cincinnati Reds games while at Great American Ballpark,
And again none of us know specifically to what extent
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he was gambling. I'm not going to say anything that's irresponsible,
but it does feel like this is pretty cut and dry.
Was he gambling, yes, by his own admission, What was
he gambling on? And then there's a whole bunch of
things that if he says I was gambling on them,
he's not eligible anymore. I'm again, I'm not a lawyer.
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That won't surprise anybody to hear, not a legal scholar.
I certainly understand the reputation and accomplishment of the lawyer
that he has retained. But there's my sort of dumb
guy from the couch question, Okay, did he bet on
something that he shouldn't have? Did he bet on something
that the NCAA says he's not allowed to bet on it?
The answer is yes, okay, cool, but not eligible to
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play college football anymore. And then going to what's next,
We'll see if it turns out to be that cut
and dry. This story is not going anywhere. Seventeen minutes
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Speaker 2 (19:12):
And uh.
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Hunter Green not the disabled list anymore. But that's that's
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Speaker 4 (19:26):
Five point three seven four nine, fifteen thirty is our
number eight sixty six seven oh two three seven seven six? Uh?
Why not, Mike, Mike, You're on ESPN fifteen thirty. Good afternoon, Mike,
how are you?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
My God? Heaven? That was the fastest response in the
history of the Mollager.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Well, I I have a slight bone to pick with you.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Whats go ahead?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Well, yesterday I was running errands.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Is that too?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Go to the grocery store?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
And I was listening to Sunday Morning Sports Talk Down
the Hall with Mike Petrelia. Mike Petrellia was talking about
his ramp in Philadelphia seventy six ers fandom, which is fine,
And I heard you tell him you hope the Sixers
advance and beat the New York Knicks.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
It hurts, I do hurts.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Oh well, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
But you know all that we've been through together, it hurts.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
The Sixers haven't been haven't even snipped him at least
you've been somewhat close over the last few years, close
to what so So, how are you going to handle mbat?
How are you going to do Coach Towns ain't gonna
do it.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Nobody's going to handle him.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Robinson not No nobody's nobody's going to handle him.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
What's going to handle him? As the calendar?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, and as you do to get hurt again. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
I mean like, look when when when fully healthy they
can't stop him? When when fully healthy, there's nobody who can.
But he doesn't play.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Back to that game, Wendy might be able to.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Well, A lot would have to happen for that matchup
to happen.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Philly m B doesn't play in back to backs, so
he's gonna play. If this series gets to a six game,
they will have played eleven games in twenty one days.
He will have played personally in nine games in two weeks.
I am skeptical that his body could hold up. Now,
what I'm not skeptical of is how great Tyrese Maxy is.
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And he's a problem as well. If this was simply
about starting fives, I would pick Philadelphia, but it's not,
and so I will take the team that is deeper.
I will take the team that is playing very well,
and I'll take the team that doesn't have a large
injury question mark covering over it's arguably its best player, and.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
You do have the home court advantage, so.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
They do, and that hasn't met nearly as much the
would Nicks have been weird at home in the postseason,
they've been really good on the road. That that, to
me isn't as much of a factor. But yeah, and
if MB gets through this series healthy, nobody's stopping him.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
But no team in the league leans on its starters more.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
They're gonna play tonight, Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday before an
extra day between games four and five. I believe that
schedule will catch up to him. I think the Knicks
win the series in six.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
What worries me about the Knicks, to tell you the truth,
is their defense on their guard play.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Yes, no, no, Tyrese Maxie will abuse them. And they
played in the playoffs two years ago and scored forty
five in Game five and won the game by himself, Like,
there's nobody on that team that can get in front
of him now. I would also say this, I'm not
sure how Philly defends the Knicks when Karl Anthony Towns
is being used the way he is. I'm not sure
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how Philly defends the Knicks if the mchel bridges at
the last two games of the series against Atlanta shows up.
I mean and again, Like, if you make it about
starting five versus starting five, it's hard to pick against Philadelphia.
But when you incorporate the bench decided advantage New York, yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Can become a big deal. You know, I was kind
of patronizing Mike.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Just all right, that's okay, now, man, look at you're
you're you're you're rooting for the Sixers.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
That's all right.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Well, he brought up. You know, as much as I hated,
I loved the Sixers until I began't move after Vietnam
and got that way.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I thought I thought we were boys. I thought we
were tight. But now you tell Mike Pa you're in
for his team, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Well, yeah, what he said. He said his favorite sixer
of all time was Andrew Tony from Southwest Louisiana State.
And I have to admit, Andrew Tony had one of
the hey and Bernard King had two of the most
beautiful jump shots I have ever seen in my life.
Other than other than.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Kurt, Andrew Tony was the heck of a player who
unfortunately was befelled by having bad feet.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
You are correct, Yeah, he was.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
He was something else, and I'll never forget that team
with Bobby Jones and Doctor Jay and Chocolate Thunder and
Calwell Jones coming off the bench, and we can go
on and Mo Cheeks, my boy, Moe Cheeks, Little Mo.
I love that name. You ought to love that guy,
Mo Cheeks, I do.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
I absolutely love Maurice Cheeks. Do you know which team
Maurice Cheeks is on the staff of No? I don't.
He's a New York Knicks assistant coach. That's all right,
go go go root for your six ers.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
That's okay, Mike, Yeah, I better here comes a policeman.
I'd better put my phone down right now before.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
We're boring everybody with this NBA conversation. There's anything else
you'd like to talk about?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yes? Do you think that the Reds lack of interaction
with the Central Division other than that initial series with
Pittsburgh open here? Do you think that that's gonna end
up working against him? Because right now I'm telling you
Oliver Garmel or whatever. Marmel. Yeah, if they did the
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Manager of the Year, he's gonna.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Limit well if they did it now, without it without
a doubt, Yes, with without a doubt.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Where did the Cardinals come from breaking out?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:16):
I mean, they just took that Pittsburgh team to beat
the Reds three straight. Saint Louis went to Pittsburgh and
won four consecutive and then did a number up until
yesterday on your Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
And I mean them. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
So you know, JJ Weatherholt is getting Rookie of the
Year buzz even though his numbers don't look like Sal Stewart's.
Alec Burlerson's having a terrific year. Jordan Walker's having a
terrific year, Like I give him a lot of credit.
I will believe until there's enough of a sample size
to convince me otherwise that the Saint Louis Cardinals still
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finish in last place in this division.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Do you have a certain amount of animosity for them,
or do you have an.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Immense amount of respect an immense amount of respect for
not that they do everything right. I thought a couple
of years ago they escaped good to Mike shild unfairly.
But they're never truly awful. You know, I would say
this about the Reds ten years ago. You can't drag
fans through just you know, season after season after season
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of losing ninety plus games. When the Cardinals are bad,
they don't do that. I mean they there's a constant
turn of quality big leaguers that come through that system.
They have been relevant for most of my life. It
pains me to say, yeah, I have an immense amount
of respect for the Saint Louis Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I do too. And and to end the call, because
I know you got to go my two favorite sportscasters
of all times sports talk radio. You know you're number.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
One, Michael Trelia. Mike Petrellia is number one. You were
telling them, telling them how great he was.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, I don't know as much a he fills in here.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Oh, here we go. Mike Petrelli is awesome at what
he does, and so is ken Brew.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, brews are I can do without the music on Tondre.
But anyway, I just lost, so I was gonna sell
you and Romy those are the two best ever ever.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Well that's not that's Rackham, that's not remotely true. Mike
throwing shade at our guy. Ken Brew just got in
the car yesterday morning. There was Mike Petrelli you talking
about his beloved seventy six ers, and I'd forgotten he's
such a big Sixers fan. So he and I will
(27:38):
be on opposite ends of things for the next week
or so. Twenty twenty six and twenty twenty three are
on the opposite ends of things when it comes to
Matt McClain, and this guy's very important to this team,
or at least he's supposed to be, but he can't
be if he continues to hit the way he has been.
And we'll spend more time on that next On ESPN
(27:58):
fifteen thirty, Cincinnati sports station T Mobile has an extra
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