May 6, 2026 • 37 mins
Elly misplayed a ball and the Reds lost. That doesn't mean he shouldn't play shortstop. Emilio Pagan is headed to the IL. What now?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And uh, maybe we could buy a Milio Pagan a
new hamstring. And I'm not trying to make light of that,
because that injury sucked last night. What's up, Mueger, that's me.
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the show yesterday that the Reds game on Monday night
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was the biggest gut punch loss of the season. Twenty
four hours later, last night's game, said to Monday night's game, quote,
hold my beer. There is a lot to last night's
game to discuss, a lot to deconstruct, some stuff to
debate perhaps, and we're gonna do it all. We've got
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sports that in ninety minutes. Let's start with the bottom
of the tenth inning last night, as heard on the
Reds Radio network.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
The one to zero pitch swing on the ground, ball
up the middle, Ellie Well, that gets buy him.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
It rolls into center. They'll wave the run around. Here
comes Myers grow not in time, comes win, Tommy thrawl
Red's Radio Network and seven hundred a WLW last night.
It's being called an error by us. It was not
officially scored an error. It was a hit regardless. The
outcome was the same, the game winning runs scored for
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the Chicago Cubs. And on a costly night because of
them Lepegun injury and a frustrating night because of the
Reds lack of offense, and a discouraging night because of
what they wasted from guys like Andrew Abbott. The Reds
lose again. They have equaled their longest losing streak from
last year, another one run loss. Those are slowly starting
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to pile at a three to two final last night
at Wrigley Field. Frustrating night, sobering night, bad night. Let's
talk about I'll call it an error even if the
official score didn't there's a handful of possible outcomes on
that ball. There's Ellie fielding it cleanly, and it took
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a tough hop on him. I think we'll acknowledge that,
but there's still the potential. He's right there. He could
feel that ball cleanly, throw the ball to first for
the out. Cubs have the winning run on third base.
Your backs are still against the wall, but the game
is not over. I'm not sure that he could have
thrown the guy out at third base, but I guess
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you could argue, maybe throw the ball to third, but
field the ball cleanly and the game continues. You could
also field the ball not quite cleanly, maybe try to
throw to first base runner could be safe, less than ideal.
Now you have a guy to third, nobody out, but
the game is not over. You can you can be
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like a hockey goalie and just knock it down, keep
it in front of you, don't let it score it away.
No throw you eat it again. Run around third, nobody out,
Run around first for what it's worth. Nobody out, but
at least the game is not over. Or you can
let that ball eat you alive, and you can watch
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it scored away and the game can end and you're
walking off the field and the Chicago Cubs are celebrating
a walk off victory. Unfortunately, that's what happened. Elie Dela
Cruz this season has played a good shortstop, really good
short stop. In fact, on the TV broadcast last night,
John Sadak and Jeff Brantley, we're talking about how metrics
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don't tell the entire story about how good Ellie has
been at short He has not been flawless. Made a
big air in a home game earlier this season, I
think against the San Francisco Giants, But for the most part,
he's made the spectacular play. He has made the routine play.
All of those things can be true, and this could
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also be true. Errors do happen, But in that moment
right there, I know it wasn't scored an air in
that moment right there, Well, you've got to keep the
ball in front of you, man, Like I don't care
if it's year four is a big leaguer or if
it's year four playing a pony league ball like that's
you might not be able to feel that cleanly. It's
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I would stop short of calling that routine, but come on, man,
it was hit like pretty much right to you, even
with a weird kind of hop like, you can't let
that ball scored away. You cannot let that ball scored away.
And this situation does matter. It's obviously magnified because of
the circumstances. Bottom of the tenth inning as opposed to
bottom of the second inning, runner in scoring position versus
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base is empty. Like, the circumstances magnify things. But that's
how sports work, it's how baseball works, it's how life works.
Circumstances magnify things. In that moment, you cannot let the
game end on a ball that's hit to you. You can't.
You might not even record the out, but you can't
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let the game. And Ellie, so you could hear the
frustration in my voice, I would imagine it mirrors the
frustration you felt last night, not just over the play,
but the five consecutive losses, the wasted opportunities, the bullpen
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issues that have suddenly exploded. And that doesn't even account
for Amelio Pegan suffering what I fear is a really
bad hamstring injury. But dude, Ellie, you got to make
that play. You could say that, and you could acknowledge that,
and you could express any amount of frustration you wish.
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I have a phone line for he at five point
three seven four nine, fifteen thirty. Now take a deep breath.
Let's make this just about Ellie. If you have watched
this season, he has shown market improvement at shortstop. He
might not be a finished product. Maybe there's a long
stretch and we've seen it before where he makes a
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bunch of errors. Last year was the first time that
I thought it. I thought it made sense to have
the conversation about eventually moving him to centerfield. But I
don't believe you can let one misplay undo. You know
how you fell it over the course of the first
whatever it's been first six weeks watching a play shortstop.
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We're big picture. There has been improvement. He's been more reliable.
And if we're gonna do the center field thing, and
I'm not convinced we should. But if we're gonna do
the center field thing, that's not happening right now, and
nor should it. It doesn't do anybody any good to
shoehorn the guy into a position he has never played.
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Pirates have tried it with O'Neill. Cruz never watched that
dude play center field. It's an adventure. This team has
enough issues that you don't need to add to it,
taking a mostly good defensive shortstop and throwing him out
there at a position that he's never played before as
a professional. So if that's the instant reaction from you,
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I can't help you there, because I don't know how
that makes sense. Could we get to a point like
last season where it's like, dude, the errors don't stop.
Big picture, man, they got to find spots for Edwin
Arroyo among others, and maybe over the course of an
offseason in spring training it makes sense to give him
some reps in center field and we could get there.
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We're not there yet, are we. It's room for multiple truths.
Say that on this show all the time. Ellie has
played a better shortstop. But the Ellie that has played
a better shortstop's got to make that play. And the
fact that he didn't look. There's a lot of things
that went into that game. Tony Santion giving up a
homer to tie the game, the Pecan injury, Ellie not
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getting a hit in the top of the tenth inning,
the Reds offense continuing to be just maddening, wasting a
good pitching performance from Andrew Abbott. There's lots there. The
Reds lost that game because they only score it twice,
which isn't enough most nights, probably not gonna be enough
against a good offensive team like the Chicago Cups. But
sure the Ellie air like, dude, you've got to make
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that play. A good shortstop makes that play. I think
what made last night stand out is this year Ellie
has been a good shortstop just because last night happened.
I'm not dissuaded from saying that you shouldn't be either.
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Five point three seven four nine fifteen thirty is our number.
Eight sixty six seven oh two three seven seven six
works as well. The Emelio Pagan injury and a lot
of folks made this comparison. I remember when Tom Browning
got hurt, an injury that kind of effectively ended his career,
and he looked like on the mound that day like
he had just been shot. Dave Draveki with an arm injury,
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and you know, he had cancer and his arm ended
up getting amputated, And last night evoked memories of that,
and hopefully on a much much, much, much much more
benign level. But it was tough to watch and I
know there's frustration with Emilio Pagan. We talked about him
a ton yesterday. He's not reliable as a closer. But
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two things here. One, he's a quality big league pitcher.
If you don't want Amelio Pagan on the team, cool,
who else you got? Number Two? Come on, man, be
a human being. Here. A dude's laying in the middle
of the field in a great amount of pain. He
coughs up the game the night before, and now he's
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in pain, and I'm sure dealing with the uncertainty that
comes with that sort of pain, Like, if you're a
human being, how do you not feel for the dude?
And so first and foremost you hope that Emilio Pagan
is okay. It is fear to wonder, like all right now,
Tony Santian, I guess is going to be the closer.
This bullpen, which was really good for a stretch, has
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developed some leaks that's not great, Like there's a lot there,
there's a lot there, but unfortunately it seems almost on brand.
I guess for there to be an air of mystery
about our Reds player suffering an injury that may or
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may not have been something that the player was dealing
with before he actually suffered the injury. Did the broadcasters
know something that Tito Francona didn't. We'll try to get
to the bottom of that next on ESPN fifteen thirty
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calls here in uh in just a bit. The Emilio
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Pagon injury deeply unfortunate. I don't know that I've seen
many baseball players get carted off. I'm no doctor, don't
pretend to be one. Not going to try to diagnose
from a barstool. But knowing what you knew about Emilio Pegan,
that he tweaked his hamstring a little bit. If you
remember in that game where he throws the last pitch
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of the game and he sort of comes off the
mound a little little weird. If that's the correct way
to put it, little janky, so to speak, and we
thought like, all right, yeah, there could be a little
bit of a problem here, and it felt like the
Reds dodged bullet. He has had his struggles on the
mound ever since then are those struggles related to any
hamstring issue? I have no idea was he dealing with soreness?
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Like the person to talk about this ultimately is going
to be a Melio Pagan. But watching it, like you
see you watch enough sports, you see players suffer hamstring injuries.
There aren't a ton like that kind of reminded me
of in two thousand and two and Ken Griffey Junior
went down between third base and home with a severe,
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severe hamstring injury and help But wonder like was this
a tear more than a strain, more than a pull?
Don't know. Felt really bad for Amelio Pagan last night,
And you could acknowledge two things. A as a closer,
not a lot of reliability, be human being, doesn't help anybody.
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For him to get hurt, doesn't help this team. For
him to be hurt. But at times with the Reds,
it feels like there's a little miscommunication or not everybody
on the same page when it comes to an injury
or maybe decisions being made with those in the decision
making capacities sort of unarmed with all the information they
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need to make an inforum decision. So you couldn't help.
But wonder last night, like was there something sort of
baked in with Emelia? Was he already dealing with hamstring soreness?
Was there already an injury here? So this is as
it happened. This is the TV broadcast Red's TV last night.
You'll hear the voices of John Saidak, Jeff Brantley, and
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Jim Day talking about Emelio Pagan and the injury that
he suffered in the ninth inning last night.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Lewis say, for a third time yesterday, he is blown
his last two tries. This is a tie, huh huh,
and he has hurt on the first pitch, hobbled clutching
at his hamstring.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
He had a hamstring injury.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
It was framed more as a slight tweak a few
weeks ago. But this is not a good sign at all.
I mean, he just collapsed down and his hand immediately
grabbed at the back of his leg. Yeah, that hamstring
has been an issue for him at least for the
last ten days.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
All right, So that's John Saidak, and that's Jeff Branley.
We didn't have the Jim Day part of that, but
you heard Jeff Brantley talk about a hamstring issue that
has been problematic for at least the last ten now
when he originally suffered that tweak that you heard John
Sadak reference, I believe that was on April the fourteenth.
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April the fourteenth was if we subtract today, that would
have been sixteen. That had been three weeks, three weeks
from yesterday Jeff Brantley talked about within ten days. Jim
Day chimed in and Austin Elmore late last night transcribed
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this on social media. He said, quote, it's his hamstring
and he's been dealing with that issue. So you walk
away from listening to Jeff and Jim in particular and
maybe John, but I think specifically the Cowboy and Jim Day.
You listen to them and you could arrive at the
conclusion that Amelia Pegan has been taking the mound dealing
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with hamstring soreness, and you could certainly wonder if there's
a connection between his recent struggle and the hamstring soreness.
You see him writhing on the ground last night in Chicago.
There's clearly an issue. Was their soreness? Was there some
sort of pain? Was there some sort of injury that
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if he continued to pitch, increase the likelihood that he
was going to ultimately deal with something more severe? Don't know.
But what's interesting about it is after the game, Tito
basically said, no idea, what anybody's talking about. Haven't heard
about Emilio Pegan suffering a hamstring tweak or dealing with pain.
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Here's the audio from last night at Wrigley Field. You
see a scary scene there with Pegan. What kind of
update can you give it?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean he's going to get scanned in
the morning. I think at age fifty, we'll know a
lot more than he's certainly going to be an il
We just need to see the extent of how bad
it he did it because you could see, you know,
bias reaction that he was struggling.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
It is a left hamstring, Yeah, hamstring a couple of
weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Had he been banged up since then?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
He was.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Actually I just went and saw him. He said he
hadn't felt that he said, he warmed up fine, and
he goes, I would never do that. I believe him.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Hmm, okay, I don't know. I don't know what to
believe because I don't believe that the Reds television broadcasters
speak off the cuff, speak irresponsibly. We're talking about total
pros here, and I want to believe Emilio Pagan as
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well when he tells his manager like, dude, I've been cool.
I wouldn't take them out compromise, wouldn't do that to
the team, wouldn't do that to myself. But like it's
one or the other. Either he was dealing with something
or he wasn't dealing with something. If he was dealing
with something, well, the broadcasters knew, but the manager didn't.
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That might not necessarily be Terry Francona's fault. Like maybe
Emilio is telling the broadcasters like, yeah, man, my hammy
is sore, but his manager asked He's like, nah, man,
I'm cool. I don't know, but it sort of feels
like not everybody's on the same page. It is fair
to wonder, and you want to take Amelio Pegan at
his word, you do? You want to take the athlete
at his or her word every single time. But when
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you have like informed folks who are around the club
every day acknowledging like, yeah, man, this has been something
he's been dealing with. As you're watching him lie on
the ground in pain, how do you not wonder, like, dude,
was he dealing with something already? Like was that thing
that he suffered three weeks ago? Was that more severe?
Was he not letting on how much pain he was in?
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And then you look at the recent performances he has struggled,
so like, Emilio, were you really dealing with pain? If
the answer is yes, don't lie to your manager. I'm
not accusing him of doing so. It's just like, how
do how do you not wonder? Should should? Should he
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have perhaps disclosed to people in important decision making capacity, like, hey,
dealing with something here might not make sense for me
to be on the active roster, might not make sense
for me to take the ball every time we have
a lead in the ninth inning. Like it. It feels
like there's different accounts, including from Amelio Pagan, about what
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he may have been dealing with prior to him suffering
the injury last night. And I don't do this to
point fingers at anybody, because I don't know, but you're
hearing different accounts. It's very different if it's you know,
some rando on like me saying, well, Amelio Pagan's been
dealing with hamstring soreness, it's something else entirely. When it's
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broadcasters who are as embedded with the team as anybody,
you'll find those guys maybe operating with the assumption that
Amelio is struggling physically, Amelio telling his manager I've been cool.
Maybe his manager trying to cover for I don't know.
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I don't know, but it feels like there have been
occasions where there's an unfortunate injury, and what matters most
here is Amelio Pagan's health, how the Reds fill his
spot on the team, because he is a quality pitcher,
even if he's kind of miscast as a closer. But
it is I think you would admit, at least slightly
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frustrating when we have these occurrences where there's miscommunication or
not everybody on the same page, or people who have
important decision making roles making decisions where they're not armed
with the information they should have. It's weird, It's unfortunate.
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More on that coming up here in just a bit.
Your phone calls coming up a little bit later on
Dax Hill has a home on the outside, should he
move inside. We've got to spend some time on that.
And look, man, you could beat up Elliela Cruz, could
beat up Bullpen, can beat up Emilio Pegan. This team's
got a problem, and it's a problem they had when
they were winning. That is coming up in the four
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Rose Marie Moring, how are we doing good. How are
you you look surprised?
Speaker 4 (24:13):
I was.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I am happy summer concert season.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Yes, it's going to be a busy one, A lot.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Lot's going on.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
What's going on?
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Yes, yeah, they keep just every time I think we're done,
they just keep adding more.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
But they call that job security, right, Yes, yes, that's
what they tell me.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
More shows and more places to house shows.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Yes, yes, I mean nobody can complain that there's nothing
to do this summer. No, no, I mean they could,
but yeah, but will But I'm not.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I'm not. And you guys have I mean beyond like
you know, the concerts coming. You guys have a lot
going on there in.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
The East Side. We do, we are.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Yeah, we're building a whole one hundred and sixty million dollar,
brand spanking new amphith Theata for everyone to enjoy next year.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
And then we're.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Celebrating forty two years of River Bend. This will be
the final full season at River Bend Music Center. I
know a lot of people have a lot of good
memories and have seen a lot of cool people there
over the years.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
There's been a lot of great shows that I'm told
I had a really good time at.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Yes, I think that's a common feeling.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah. Now the new place, I mean, you're gonna have
to book like an A lister.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Well, I mean did you have someone in mind?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yes, and we could talk about that, but yes, I
sort of do.
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I think it's going to be a lot of A listers.
So yeah, you know, you know how it is when
you if you build it, they will come. So we're
going to have the shiny new toy in the country
and it's going to be state of the art, So
it's going to be built for the artist and fan experience.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
So nah wait, I think you're gonna really like it.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
All right, that's down the road. Let's talk about this year. Yes,
all right. Now, give me like three or four shows
that stand out to you where it's like, you know what,
this person or this band, this act has played Riverbend before,
but they haven't been here in a while, or maybe
this is their first time.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
So there's two acts we just actually announced the past
couple of weeks, Muse and then the Strokes. Now Strokes,
I don't think I've toured ever over a long time. Yeah,
for a very long time, almost a decade, I want
to say. Then we have John Mellencamp, which I know
is an oldie, but goodie, we're hearing that this might
be his final tour.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
You might hang it up.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
He hasn't said that, but rumors are. And he's doing
all the hits, which he hasn't done.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
That's the thing.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Yeah, I know people have been upset that have gone
to his concerts in the past. They want to hear
the hits Jack and Diane, and he has guaranteed that
he will sing them all.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
He's feeling nostalgic this go around.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
He definitely is good.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
But then we have TLC and Salt and Peppa, right,
I mean another one. They've never toured together really, which
I was surprised to know that too. And then of
course we always have one band that said farewell. And
then they decided to come back to Motley. Crue is
back on the road after I think they signed a
contract in Blood ten years ago or something swearing that
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that was going to be it.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
But they're back.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
But like, what else are those guys gonna do?
Speaker 5 (27:16):
This is true?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Right?
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Well what also those guys they hang it up? And
then it's like they don't strike me as golfers, no,
you know, so like what else is there for those
guys to do?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
And I'm sure they have a lot of divorces to
pay for.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
No question about it. Which band had the most farewell tours?
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Oh? God, kiss kiss?
Speaker 1 (27:33):
No? I don't.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
I thought you were asking no, No, I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I don't know. Factually, I want.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
To say it has to be kissed.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
They started saying goodbye when I was in college, right,
and that was a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I feel like the Eagles, they've had a few, but
different versions of them, yeah, passages of band members.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
But I agree.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I know they're they're playing, they're playing the spear and
all that, but like I feel like they've they've had
a few farewell tours.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
Yes, I think there's a lot of Leonard Skinnid said
farewell and they're back this year Feigner, so that's going
to be a good dynamic duo. And then the country
this year too. We got Tim McGraw who hasn't played
the marketing in a few years. So Jason al Dean,
Brookston Dunn. I'm going to go out on a limb
and say I think this might be their final tour
(28:15):
as well, So I encourage everyone to get tickets to
see those people that they want to see life is short,
buy the tickets.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And not hanging it up anytime soon, at least I
hope not. Darius Rucker.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
No, And you know what I will say. I know
you're a fan of his.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
He is one of those oddists that sounds better live
than he does when you hear on the radio. And
it's just such a fun concert. You know the words
to all his songs. Everyone's in a good mood. I
think that's like one to see the summer.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Here's what I like about him. I've seen Darius as
Darius Rucker and he'll play some Hoodie. I've seen Darius
as part of Hoody two years ago at Riverbend, he
played a Darius song. So like, yeah, he understands, like
there's some folks who maybe they know me as you know,
the guy from Hoodie. I'll throw him boner two. And
then if he's you know, with Hooty and the Blowfish,
I'll go like, there's some folks here like my country stuff.
(29:05):
These guys will play that. And so it's a little bit.
And he's a big Reds fan. I'll talk about the Reds.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Oh, I didn't know he was a Redan he.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Is a big Reds fan. Hua. When they were at
Riverbend two years ago, he started talking about like sign
Ellie Dela Cruz long term. It was neat.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Oh really, I must have not been there for that one.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I don't know, but yes, okay, yeah, big big Reds fan.
I like that.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
We'll have to get him some red stuff then put
in his dressing room.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I'm sure he would appreciate. Okay, yeah, if he needs
somebody to deliver this stuff, I'll see if I can
help you out. Okay, go go meet Go meet Darius.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
I'll make a note of that.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Now, let's let's say up Mother's Day coming up?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yes, Mom and mom? You know, take mom to a
show at Riverbend. I've done before my mom moved. This
is what I would do. Right, And you're thinking, like,
there's a show mom would love? Which which ones stand out?
Speaker 6 (29:46):
So I think Rod Stewart is a the moms love
Rod studient.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
This is great because he was supposed to play in
Cincinnati last.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Year with Billy Jewel. Billy Jewel got six. He's coming back.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
I think another good one would be Sarah McLaughlin at
can See Pavilion. That's going to be a good show. Also,
I'm looking at my list pit Bull.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Well, see, I have an odd relationship with Pitbull.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
You do.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
It's my least favorite artists of all time?
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Why?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I don't know. My producer, Tarren Bland knows he's not
allowed to play pitch. So here's this is your chance
to tell me why someone like myself should come see
pit Bull. I had to be authentic. I couldn't pretend like, oh, yeah,
that's in September, I'll be there.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Okay, So this is what he's been I think the
year before last and then two years prior to that.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
They've sold out both times.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
And everyone who goes to that show says that it's
another like people bring their kids to.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
That show pit Bull.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
Yes, it's like you know, there's no vulgar language everything.
It's just a very uplifting fun you just it's a.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Good vibe that's wholesome.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
It is wholesome, yes, And he's just such high energy
and positive messages and everything. I think that everyone who
goes just has a really good time and that's going
to sell out.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Well it is okay, very good. All right, Well I'll
see if I can squeeze in and maybe go see
go see Pitbulls.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
I'll save ticket.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I'll say this, I have never been a huge Rod Stewart.
Fany you guys had him in? Was the year my
daughter was born? Seventeen?
Speaker 5 (31:27):
Is that one was with Cindy Lauper.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yes, that was awesome. Yeah, it was awesome. And I
wouldn't say when kicking and screaming, but it's like, yeah,
it's in. I'll go it's Rod Stewart, not a huge fan.
And then like I knew every song.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
Yeah, and you know what another show like that is Train.
Oh yeah, they're really great live. You know the words
to all their songs. I feel like people don't realize
how many hits that they actually have.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
So that's another good one to take mom too as well.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Right, very good. So when does the River Bend schedule begin?
Speaker 5 (31:57):
It this well?
Speaker 6 (31:59):
May sixteen, Saturday May sixteen, Kid Cuddy.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Okay, and then Joe Burrow's favorite.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Yes, I yeah, Oh did you want to call him
and see if he wants to go to the concert?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
If Joe would like to hang out with me, that'd
be funky, that'd be a good time. That is the
day of my daughter's birthday, So if he could swing
or it's her birthday party, if he could swing by
the house and then Nay and I will go to
the concert together at night.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
All right, I'll make a call see if see if.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
We can make that happen. I don't know that my
daughter would be that into kid cutty, but if he
wants to come along too, that'll be that'd be fine.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Okay, yeah, we'll arrange that.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
What else do we need to know about Riverbend twenty
twenty six.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
Well, the box office opened this past Monday, and you
can always buy tickets with pay and pay no service
fees when paying with cash, and just two dollars per
ticket with a credit card, which is a great savings
especially these days. Box offices open Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays.
Also for people that don't know, you can get Riverbend
Music Center tickets at the Taft Theater box office as
(32:59):
well is the Andrew J.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Brady Music Center box office. But we're not done announcing shows.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
We have two big announcements tomorrow and a couple more
in the upcoming weeks.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Are you allowed to give me any hints?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
No?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Okay? All right, very good?
Speaker 5 (33:14):
But thanks for asking.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
When will you get around to booking the first ever
act at the new place?
Speaker 6 (33:18):
So we're in the process of doing that now, and
I don't think I actually I couldn't even guess to
say when we would be announcing it, but it's probably
going to be before the end of this year.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Okay, so will I wouldn't?
Speaker 5 (33:32):
We just have to wait with baited breath.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
This is I'll just go to riverbendot org and just
hit refresh and see if one day it pops up
exactly all right. I can't thank you enough, no, thanks
for having me. We've got the big the moor Long
contest coming up.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Yeah, and I want someone to actually have you mow
their lawn.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
No, they want me to leave their property as soon
as possible. When I show up. I mean like the
family comes out and they just look, okay, yes, how
long is he going to stay? And we take the
picture and they they could not get rid of me
quickly enough. Every year I offer to cut the grass, yes,
and every year it's I, where can you just leave?
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Didn't even give you a beer?
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Some folks have given me beer. It's like, here's here's
a sick pack to go here's road. Yeah, take it,
take it home, split it with the wife. Yeah. So
but I I and what I like about it is
I bring paper tickets. Oh yes, be able to appreciate that, yes, yeah,
because you don't have those anymore. Everything's digital, everything's digital.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
So but it's it's awesome and we thank you guys
for being a part of it. We'll announce the winner
two weeks from tomorrow. Excellent, and it's going to be
it's going to be a great summer.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Yes, it is. We look forward to seeing ya you will.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Riverbend dot org. When's Pitbull?
Speaker 6 (34:42):
Pitbull is September fifteenth.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Perfect.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
Get your tickets now, try to keep me away.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Riverbend dot org. Check out the full twenty twenty six
Riverbend schedule and get tickets again. It's so you can
get them online. You can also go to riverbend and
get him at the Taff Theater or the Andrew Brady
Music Center downtown. Awesome to see you, good, seeing you
as always. It's ten away from four o'clock. This is
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
From the UC.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
That's what's going on in the NFL. Boy, see, now
we've opened up Pandora's box. We had rose Marie here.
Now Tarren thinks we can just play pitful all the time.
I'm gonna have to have a staff meeting. Thanks in September.
That's right, Uh pull up questions on this show. Oh yeah,
(35:42):
the schedule release. They have these five games. The NFL
is trying to shoehorn into another streaming deal, and if
they get around to that, they'll get around to announcing.
Because you know, here's the thing that a lot of
folks love the schedule release because they start to plan
their lives and they they book trips, which is becoming
increasingly difficult because airfarre is going up, and you know,
(36:06):
people whose entire existence doesn't revolve around football. They've got
to make plans, they've got to hire babysitters. And the
earlier you could do that, the better. But the NFL
just believes you will do whatever they say, so that
might announce the schedule like in August. I have I
have no idea. Speaking of the NFL, we do have
to talk about Dac Sale changing homes and not moving
(36:29):
to another team. We'll do that a little bit later on.
The Reds play the Cubs tonight, and so some stuff
has begun to crater. The Reds starting pitching to a
degree has started to creter the bullpen. There's issues like
Emilio Pagan not being available is a problem, even if
(36:50):
you believe, as I do, that maybe he shouldn't be
the closer. Him not being available is a problem. And
the Reds bullpen, which for the first three or four
weeks was terrific, has recently not been terrific. And so
when deficiencies open up elsewhere, there's an area of the
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team you look at and the flaws there are exposed.
You probably know what I'm talking about, and if you don't,
I will make that make sense a little bit later
on Plus in the four o'clock hour, Brennan and Jones
on baseball and our sports business expert, our friend Joe Wilson,
Why is money? Sports? O Mega Wealth, Private capital on
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a few different topics coming up at four thirty five.
It's coming up on four o'clock on Moegar. This is
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And uh, maybe we could buy a Milio Pagan a
new hamstring. And I'm not trying to make light of that,
because that injury sucked last night. What's up, Mueger, that's me.
This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Thanks for listening. Hopefully you're
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the show yesterday that the Reds game on Monday night
(00:45):
was the biggest gut punch loss of the season. Twenty
four hours later, last night's game, said to Monday night's game, quote,
hold my beer. There is a lot to last night's
game to discuss, a lot to deconstruct, some stuff to
debate perhaps, and we're gonna do it all. We've got
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some some Bengal stuff to get to a little bit
later on FC Cincinnati as well. Sports and Business with
our guy Joe Wilson from Omegawealth Private capital wise money
sports that in ninety minutes. Let's start with the bottom
of the tenth inning last night, as heard on the
Reds Radio network.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
The one to zero pitch swing on the ground, ball
up the middle, Ellie Well, that gets buy him.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
It rolls into center. They'll wave the run around. Here
comes Myers grow not in time, comes win, Tommy thrawl
Red's Radio Network and seven hundred a WLW last night.
It's being called an error by us. It was not
officially scored an error. It was a hit regardless. The
outcome was the same, the game winning runs scored for
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the Chicago Cubs. And on a costly night because of
them Lepegun injury and a frustrating night because of the
Reds lack of offense, and a discouraging night because of
what they wasted from guys like Andrew Abbott. The Reds
lose again. They have equaled their longest losing streak from
last year, another one run loss. Those are slowly starting
(02:18):
to pile at a three to two final last night
at Wrigley Field. Frustrating night, sobering night, bad night. Let's
talk about I'll call it an error even if the
official score didn't there's a handful of possible outcomes on
that ball. There's Ellie fielding it cleanly, and it took
(02:38):
a tough hop on him. I think we'll acknowledge that,
but there's still the potential. He's right there. He could
feel that ball cleanly, throw the ball to first for
the out. Cubs have the winning run on third base.
Your backs are still against the wall, but the game
is not over. I'm not sure that he could have
thrown the guy out at third base, but I guess
(03:00):
you could argue, maybe throw the ball to third, but
field the ball cleanly and the game continues. You could
also field the ball not quite cleanly, maybe try to
throw to first base runner could be safe, less than ideal.
Now you have a guy to third, nobody out, but
the game is not over. You can you can be
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like a hockey goalie and just knock it down, keep
it in front of you, don't let it score it away.
No throw you eat it again. Run around third, nobody out,
Run around first for what it's worth. Nobody out, but
at least the game is not over. Or you can
let that ball eat you alive, and you can watch
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it scored away and the game can end and you're
walking off the field and the Chicago Cubs are celebrating
a walk off victory. Unfortunately, that's what happened. Elie Dela
Cruz this season has played a good shortstop, really good
short stop. In fact, on the TV broadcast last night,
John Sadak and Jeff Brantley, we're talking about how metrics
(04:08):
don't tell the entire story about how good Ellie has
been at short He has not been flawless. Made a
big air in a home game earlier this season, I
think against the San Francisco Giants, But for the most part,
he's made the spectacular play. He has made the routine play.
All of those things can be true, and this could
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also be true. Errors do happen, But in that moment
right there, I know it wasn't scored an air in
that moment right there, Well, you've got to keep the
ball in front of you, man, Like I don't care
if it's year four is a big leaguer or if
it's year four playing a pony league ball like that's
you might not be able to feel that cleanly. It's
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I would stop short of calling that routine, but come on, man,
it was hit like pretty much right to you, even
with a weird kind of hop like, you can't let
that ball scored away. You cannot let that ball scored away.
And this situation does matter. It's obviously magnified because of
the circumstances. Bottom of the tenth inning as opposed to
bottom of the second inning, runner in scoring position versus
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base is empty. Like, the circumstances magnify things. But that's
how sports work, it's how baseball works, it's how life works.
Circumstances magnify things. In that moment, you cannot let the
game end on a ball that's hit to you. You can't.
You might not even record the out, but you can't
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let the game. And Ellie, so you could hear the
frustration in my voice, I would imagine it mirrors the
frustration you felt last night, not just over the play,
but the five consecutive losses, the wasted opportunities, the bullpen
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issues that have suddenly exploded. And that doesn't even account
for Amelio Pegan suffering what I fear is a really
bad hamstring injury. But dude, Ellie, you got to make
that play. You could say that, and you could acknowledge that,
and you could express any amount of frustration you wish.
(06:20):
I have a phone line for he at five point
three seven four nine, fifteen thirty. Now take a deep breath.
Let's make this just about Ellie. If you have watched
this season, he has shown market improvement at shortstop. He
might not be a finished product. Maybe there's a long
stretch and we've seen it before where he makes a
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bunch of errors. Last year was the first time that
I thought it. I thought it made sense to have
the conversation about eventually moving him to centerfield. But I
don't believe you can let one misplay undo. You know
how you fell it over the course of the first
whatever it's been first six weeks watching a play shortstop.
(07:03):
We're big picture. There has been improvement. He's been more reliable.
And if we're gonna do the center field thing, and
I'm not convinced we should. But if we're gonna do
the center field thing, that's not happening right now, and
nor should it. It doesn't do anybody any good to
shoehorn the guy into a position he has never played.
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Pirates have tried it with O'Neill. Cruz never watched that
dude play center field. It's an adventure. This team has
enough issues that you don't need to add to it,
taking a mostly good defensive shortstop and throwing him out
there at a position that he's never played before as
a professional. So if that's the instant reaction from you,
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I can't help you there, because I don't know how
that makes sense. Could we get to a point like
last season where it's like, dude, the errors don't stop.
Big picture, man, they got to find spots for Edwin
Arroyo among others, and maybe over the course of an
offseason in spring training it makes sense to give him
some reps in center field and we could get there.
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We're not there yet, are we. It's room for multiple truths.
Say that on this show all the time. Ellie has
played a better shortstop. But the Ellie that has played
a better shortstop's got to make that play. And the
fact that he didn't look. There's a lot of things
that went into that game. Tony Santion giving up a
homer to tie the game, the Pecan injury, Ellie not
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getting a hit in the top of the tenth inning,
the Reds offense continuing to be just maddening, wasting a
good pitching performance from Andrew Abbott. There's lots there. The
Reds lost that game because they only score it twice,
which isn't enough most nights, probably not gonna be enough
against a good offensive team like the Chicago Cups. But
sure the Ellie air like, dude, you've got to make
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that play. A good shortstop makes that play. I think
what made last night stand out is this year Ellie
has been a good shortstop just because last night happened.
I'm not dissuaded from saying that you shouldn't be either.
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Five point three seven four nine fifteen thirty is our number.
Eight sixty six seven oh two three seven seven six
works as well. The Emelio Pagan injury and a lot
of folks made this comparison. I remember when Tom Browning
got hurt, an injury that kind of effectively ended his career,
and he looked like on the mound that day like
he had just been shot. Dave Draveki with an arm injury,
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and you know, he had cancer and his arm ended
up getting amputated, And last night evoked memories of that,
and hopefully on a much much, much, much much more
benign level. But it was tough to watch and I
know there's frustration with Emilio Pagan. We talked about him
a ton yesterday. He's not reliable as a closer. But
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two things here. One, he's a quality big league pitcher.
If you don't want Amelio Pagan on the team, cool,
who else you got? Number Two? Come on, man, be
a human being. Here. A dude's laying in the middle
of the field in a great amount of pain. He
coughs up the game the night before, and now he's
(10:21):
in pain, and I'm sure dealing with the uncertainty that
comes with that sort of pain, Like, if you're a
human being, how do you not feel for the dude?
And so first and foremost you hope that Emilio Pagan
is okay. It is fear to wonder, like all right now,
Tony Santian, I guess is going to be the closer.
This bullpen, which was really good for a stretch, has
(10:44):
developed some leaks that's not great, Like there's a lot there,
there's a lot there, but unfortunately it seems almost on brand.
I guess for there to be an air of mystery
about our Reds player suffering an injury that may or
(11:05):
may not have been something that the player was dealing
with before he actually suffered the injury. Did the broadcasters
know something that Tito Francona didn't. We'll try to get
to the bottom of that next on ESPN fifteen thirty
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calls here in uh in just a bit. The Emilio
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Pagon injury deeply unfortunate. I don't know that I've seen
many baseball players get carted off. I'm no doctor, don't
pretend to be one. Not going to try to diagnose
from a barstool. But knowing what you knew about Emilio Pegan,
that he tweaked his hamstring a little bit. If you
remember in that game where he throws the last pitch
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of the game and he sort of comes off the
mound a little little weird. If that's the correct way
to put it, little janky, so to speak, and we
thought like, all right, yeah, there could be a little
bit of a problem here, and it felt like the
Reds dodged bullet. He has had his struggles on the
mound ever since then are those struggles related to any
hamstring issue? I have no idea was he dealing with soreness?
(12:35):
Like the person to talk about this ultimately is going
to be a Melio Pagan. But watching it, like you
see you watch enough sports, you see players suffer hamstring injuries.
There aren't a ton like that kind of reminded me
of in two thousand and two and Ken Griffey Junior
went down between third base and home with a severe,
(12:56):
severe hamstring injury and help But wonder like was this
a tear more than a strain, more than a pull?
Don't know. Felt really bad for Amelio Pagan last night,
And you could acknowledge two things. A as a closer,
not a lot of reliability, be human being, doesn't help anybody.
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For him to get hurt, doesn't help this team. For
him to be hurt. But at times with the Reds,
it feels like there's a little miscommunication or not everybody
on the same page when it comes to an injury
or maybe decisions being made with those in the decision
making capacities sort of unarmed with all the information they
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need to make an inforum decision. So you couldn't help.
But wonder last night, like was there something sort of
baked in with Emelia? Was he already dealing with hamstring soreness?
Was there already an injury here? So this is as
it happened. This is the TV broadcast Red's TV last night.
You'll hear the voices of John Saidak, Jeff Brantley, and
(14:02):
Jim Day talking about Emelio Pagan and the injury that
he suffered in the ninth inning last night.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Lewis say, for a third time yesterday, he is blown
his last two tries. This is a tie, huh huh,
and he has hurt on the first pitch, hobbled clutching
at his hamstring.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
He had a hamstring injury.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
It was framed more as a slight tweak a few
weeks ago. But this is not a good sign at all.
I mean, he just collapsed down and his hand immediately
grabbed at the back of his leg. Yeah, that hamstring
has been an issue for him at least for the
last ten days.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
All right, So that's John Saidak, and that's Jeff Branley.
We didn't have the Jim Day part of that, but
you heard Jeff Brantley talk about a hamstring issue that
has been problematic for at least the last ten now
when he originally suffered that tweak that you heard John
Sadak reference, I believe that was on April the fourteenth.
(15:10):
April the fourteenth was if we subtract today, that would
have been sixteen. That had been three weeks, three weeks
from yesterday Jeff Brantley talked about within ten days. Jim
Day chimed in and Austin Elmore late last night transcribed
(15:32):
this on social media. He said, quote, it's his hamstring
and he's been dealing with that issue. So you walk
away from listening to Jeff and Jim in particular and
maybe John, but I think specifically the Cowboy and Jim Day.
You listen to them and you could arrive at the
conclusion that Amelia Pegan has been taking the mound dealing
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with hamstring soreness, and you could certainly wonder if there's
a connection between his recent struggle and the hamstring soreness.
You see him writhing on the ground last night in Chicago.
There's clearly an issue. Was their soreness? Was there some
sort of pain? Was there some sort of injury that
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if he continued to pitch, increase the likelihood that he
was going to ultimately deal with something more severe? Don't know.
But what's interesting about it is after the game, Tito
basically said, no idea, what anybody's talking about. Haven't heard
about Emilio Pegan suffering a hamstring tweak or dealing with pain.
(16:36):
Here's the audio from last night at Wrigley Field. You
see a scary scene there with Pegan. What kind of
update can you give it?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean he's going to get scanned in
the morning. I think at age fifty, we'll know a
lot more than he's certainly going to be an il
We just need to see the extent of how bad
it he did it because you could see, you know,
bias reaction that he was struggling.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
It is a left hamstring, Yeah, hamstring a couple of
weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Had he been banged up since then?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
He was.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Actually I just went and saw him. He said he
hadn't felt that he said, he warmed up fine, and
he goes, I would never do that. I believe him.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Hmm, okay, I don't know. I don't know what to
believe because I don't believe that the Reds television broadcasters
speak off the cuff, speak irresponsibly. We're talking about total
pros here, and I want to believe Emilio Pagan as
(17:39):
well when he tells his manager like, dude, I've been cool.
I wouldn't take them out compromise, wouldn't do that to
the team, wouldn't do that to myself. But like it's
one or the other. Either he was dealing with something
or he wasn't dealing with something. If he was dealing
with something, well, the broadcasters knew, but the manager didn't.
(18:02):
That might not necessarily be Terry Francona's fault. Like maybe
Emilio is telling the broadcasters like, yeah, man, my hammy
is sore, but his manager asked He's like, nah, man,
I'm cool. I don't know, but it sort of feels
like not everybody's on the same page. It is fair
to wonder, and you want to take Amelio Pegan at
his word, you do? You want to take the athlete
at his or her word every single time. But when
(18:26):
you have like informed folks who are around the club
every day acknowledging like, yeah, man, this has been something
he's been dealing with. As you're watching him lie on
the ground in pain, how do you not wonder, like, dude,
was he dealing with something already? Like was that thing
that he suffered three weeks ago? Was that more severe?
Was he not letting on how much pain he was in?
(18:47):
And then you look at the recent performances he has struggled,
so like, Emilio, were you really dealing with pain? If
the answer is yes, don't lie to your manager. I'm
not accusing him of doing so. It's just like, how
do how do you not wonder? Should should? Should he
(19:09):
have perhaps disclosed to people in important decision making capacity, like, hey,
dealing with something here might not make sense for me
to be on the active roster, might not make sense
for me to take the ball every time we have
a lead in the ninth inning. Like it. It feels
like there's different accounts, including from Amelio Pagan, about what
(19:30):
he may have been dealing with prior to him suffering
the injury last night. And I don't do this to
point fingers at anybody, because I don't know, but you're
hearing different accounts. It's very different if it's you know,
some rando on like me saying, well, Amelio Pagan's been
dealing with hamstring soreness, it's something else entirely. When it's
(19:52):
broadcasters who are as embedded with the team as anybody,
you'll find those guys maybe operating with the assumption that
Amelio is struggling physically, Amelio telling his manager I've been cool.
Maybe his manager trying to cover for I don't know.
(20:14):
I don't know, but it feels like there have been
occasions where there's an unfortunate injury, and what matters most
here is Amelio Pagan's health, how the Reds fill his
spot on the team, because he is a quality pitcher,
even if he's kind of miscast as a closer. But
it is I think you would admit, at least slightly
(20:36):
frustrating when we have these occurrences where there's miscommunication or
not everybody on the same page, or people who have
important decision making roles making decisions where they're not armed
with the information they should have. It's weird, It's unfortunate.
(20:59):
More on that coming up here in just a bit.
Your phone calls coming up a little bit later on
Dax Hill has a home on the outside, should he
move inside. We've got to spend some time on that.
And look, man, you could beat up Elliela Cruz, could
beat up Bullpen, can beat up Emilio Pegan. This team's
got a problem, and it's a problem they had when
they were winning. That is coming up in the four
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in studio from Riverbend, my friend Tarn using microphone free
Rose Marie Moring, how are we doing good. How are
you you look surprised?
Speaker 4 (24:13):
I was.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I am happy summer concert season.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Yes, it's going to be a busy one, A lot.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Lot's going on.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
What's going on?
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Yes, yeah, they keep just every time I think we're done,
they just keep adding more.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
But they call that job security, right, Yes, yes, that's
what they tell me.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
More shows and more places to house shows.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Yes, yes, I mean nobody can complain that there's nothing
to do this summer. No, no, I mean they could,
but yeah, but will But I'm not.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I'm not. And you guys have I mean beyond like
you know, the concerts coming. You guys have a lot
going on there in.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
The East Side. We do, we are.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Yeah, we're building a whole one hundred and sixty million dollar,
brand spanking new amphith Theata for everyone to enjoy next year.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
And then we're.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Celebrating forty two years of River Bend. This will be
the final full season at River Bend Music Center. I
know a lot of people have a lot of good
memories and have seen a lot of cool people there
over the years.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
There's been a lot of great shows that I'm told
I had a really good time at.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Yes, I think that's a common feeling.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah. Now the new place, I mean, you're gonna have
to book like an A lister.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Well, I mean did you have someone in mind?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yes, and we could talk about that, but yes, I
sort of do.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
I think it's going to be a lot of A listers.
So yeah, you know, you know how it is when
you if you build it, they will come. So we're
going to have the shiny new toy in the country
and it's going to be state of the art, So
it's going to be built for the artist and fan experience.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
So nah wait, I think you're gonna really like it.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
All right, that's down the road. Let's talk about this year. Yes,
all right. Now, give me like three or four shows
that stand out to you where it's like, you know what,
this person or this band, this act has played Riverbend before,
but they haven't been here in a while, or maybe
this is their first time.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
So there's two acts we just actually announced the past
couple of weeks, Muse and then the Strokes. Now Strokes,
I don't think I've toured ever over a long time. Yeah,
for a very long time, almost a decade, I want
to say. Then we have John Mellencamp, which I know
is an oldie, but goodie, we're hearing that this might
be his final tour.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
You might hang it up.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
He hasn't said that, but rumors are. And he's doing
all the hits, which he hasn't done.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
That's the thing.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Yeah, I know people have been upset that have gone
to his concerts in the past. They want to hear
the hits Jack and Diane, and he has guaranteed that
he will sing them all.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
He's feeling nostalgic this go around.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
He definitely is good.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
But then we have TLC and Salt and Peppa, right,
I mean another one. They've never toured together really, which
I was surprised to know that too. And then of
course we always have one band that said farewell. And
then they decided to come back to Motley. Crue is
back on the road after I think they signed a
contract in Blood ten years ago or something swearing that
(27:12):
that was going to be it.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
But they're back.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
But like, what else are those guys gonna do?
Speaker 5 (27:16):
This is true?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Right?
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Well what also those guys they hang it up? And
then it's like they don't strike me as golfers, no,
you know, so like what else is there for those
guys to do?
Speaker 5 (27:25):
And I'm sure they have a lot of divorces to
pay for.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
No question about it. Which band had the most farewell tours?
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Oh? God, kiss kiss?
Speaker 1 (27:33):
No? I don't.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
I thought you were asking no, No, I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I don't know. Factually, I want.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
To say it has to be kissed.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
They started saying goodbye when I was in college, right,
and that was a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I feel like the Eagles, they've had a few, but
different versions of them, yeah, passages of band members.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
But I agree.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I know they're they're playing, they're playing the spear and
all that, but like I feel like they've they've had
a few farewell tours.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
Yes, I think there's a lot of Leonard Skinnid said
farewell and they're back this year Feigner, so that's going
to be a good dynamic duo. And then the country
this year too. We got Tim McGraw who hasn't played
the marketing in a few years. So Jason al Dean,
Brookston Dunn. I'm going to go out on a limb
and say I think this might be their final tour
(28:15):
as well, So I encourage everyone to get tickets to
see those people that they want to see life is short,
buy the tickets.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And not hanging it up anytime soon, at least I
hope not. Darius Rucker.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
No, And you know what I will say. I know
you're a fan of his.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
He is one of those oddists that sounds better live
than he does when you hear on the radio. And
it's just such a fun concert. You know the words
to all his songs. Everyone's in a good mood. I
think that's like one to see the summer.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Here's what I like about him. I've seen Darius as
Darius Rucker and he'll play some Hoodie. I've seen Darius
as part of Hoody two years ago at Riverbend, he
played a Darius song. So like, yeah, he understands, like
there's some folks who maybe they know me as you know,
the guy from Hoodie. I'll throw him boner two. And
then if he's you know, with Hooty and the Blowfish,
I'll go like, there's some folks here like my country stuff.
(29:05):
These guys will play that. And so it's a little bit.
And he's a big Reds fan. I'll talk about the Reds.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Oh, I didn't know he was a Redan he.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Is a big Reds fan. Hua. When they were at
Riverbend two years ago, he started talking about like sign
Ellie Dela Cruz long term. It was neat.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Oh really, I must have not been there for that one.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I don't know, but yes, okay, yeah, big big Reds fan.
I like that.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
We'll have to get him some red stuff then put
in his dressing room.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I'm sure he would appreciate. Okay, yeah, if he needs
somebody to deliver this stuff, I'll see if I can
help you out. Okay, go go meet Go meet Darius.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
I'll make a note of that.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Now, let's let's say up Mother's Day coming up?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yes, Mom and mom? You know, take mom to a
show at Riverbend. I've done before my mom moved. This
is what I would do. Right, And you're thinking, like,
there's a show mom would love? Which which ones stand out?
Speaker 6 (29:46):
So I think Rod Stewart is a the moms love
Rod studient.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
This is great because he was supposed to play in
Cincinnati last.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Year with Billy Jewel. Billy Jewel got six. He's coming back.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
I think another good one would be Sarah McLaughlin at
can See Pavilion. That's going to be a good show. Also,
I'm looking at my list pit Bull.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Well, see, I have an odd relationship with Pitbull.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
You do.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
It's my least favorite artists of all time?
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Why?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I don't know. My producer, Tarren Bland knows he's not
allowed to play pitch. So here's this is your chance
to tell me why someone like myself should come see
pit Bull. I had to be authentic. I couldn't pretend like, oh, yeah,
that's in September, I'll be there.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Okay, So this is what he's been I think the
year before last and then two years prior to that.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
They've sold out both times.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
And everyone who goes to that show says that it's
another like people bring their kids to.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
That show pit Bull.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
Yes, it's like you know, there's no vulgar language everything.
It's just a very uplifting fun you just it's a.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Good vibe that's wholesome.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
It is wholesome, yes, And he's just such high energy
and positive messages and everything. I think that everyone who
goes just has a really good time and that's going
to sell out.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Well it is okay, very good. All right, Well I'll
see if I can squeeze in and maybe go see
go see Pitbulls.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
I'll save ticket.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I'll say this, I have never been a huge Rod Stewart.
Fany you guys had him in? Was the year my
daughter was born? Seventeen?
Speaker 5 (31:27):
Is that one was with Cindy Lauper.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yes, that was awesome. Yeah, it was awesome. And I
wouldn't say when kicking and screaming, but it's like, yeah,
it's in. I'll go it's Rod Stewart, not a huge fan.
And then like I knew every song.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
Yeah, and you know what another show like that is Train.
Oh yeah, they're really great live. You know the words
to all their songs. I feel like people don't realize
how many hits that they actually have.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
So that's another good one to take mom too as well.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Right, very good. So when does the River Bend schedule begin?
Speaker 5 (31:57):
It this well?
Speaker 6 (31:59):
May sixteen, Saturday May sixteen, Kid Cuddy.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Okay, and then Joe Burrow's favorite.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Yes, I yeah, Oh did you want to call him
and see if he wants to go to the concert?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
If Joe would like to hang out with me, that'd
be funky, that'd be a good time. That is the
day of my daughter's birthday, So if he could swing
or it's her birthday party, if he could swing by
the house and then Nay and I will go to
the concert together at night.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
All right, I'll make a call see if see if.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
We can make that happen. I don't know that my
daughter would be that into kid cutty, but if he
wants to come along too, that'll be that'd be fine.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Okay, yeah, we'll arrange that.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
What else do we need to know about Riverbend twenty
twenty six.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
Well, the box office opened this past Monday, and you
can always buy tickets with pay and pay no service
fees when paying with cash, and just two dollars per
ticket with a credit card, which is a great savings
especially these days. Box offices open Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays.
Also for people that don't know, you can get Riverbend
Music Center tickets at the Taft Theater box office as
(32:59):
well is the Andrew J.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Brady Music Center box office. But we're not done announcing shows.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
We have two big announcements tomorrow and a couple more
in the upcoming weeks.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Are you allowed to give me any hints?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
No?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Okay? All right, very good?
Speaker 5 (33:14):
But thanks for asking.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
When will you get around to booking the first ever
act at the new place?
Speaker 6 (33:18):
So we're in the process of doing that now, and
I don't think I actually I couldn't even guess to
say when we would be announcing it, but it's probably
going to be before the end of this year.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Okay, so will I wouldn't?
Speaker 5 (33:32):
We just have to wait with baited breath.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
This is I'll just go to riverbendot org and just
hit refresh and see if one day it pops up
exactly all right. I can't thank you enough, no, thanks
for having me. We've got the big the moor Long
contest coming up.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Yeah, and I want someone to actually have you mow
their lawn.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
No, they want me to leave their property as soon
as possible. When I show up. I mean like the
family comes out and they just look, okay, yes, how
long is he going to stay? And we take the
picture and they they could not get rid of me
quickly enough. Every year I offer to cut the grass, yes,
and every year it's I, where can you just leave?
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Didn't even give you a beer?
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Some folks have given me beer. It's like, here's here's
a sick pack to go here's road. Yeah, take it,
take it home, split it with the wife. Yeah. So
but I I and what I like about it is
I bring paper tickets. Oh yes, be able to appreciate that, yes, yeah,
because you don't have those anymore. Everything's digital, everything's digital.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
So but it's it's awesome and we thank you guys
for being a part of it. We'll announce the winner
two weeks from tomorrow. Excellent, and it's going to be
it's going to be a great summer.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Yes, it is. We look forward to seeing ya you will.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Riverbend dot org. When's Pitbull?
Speaker 6 (34:42):
Pitbull is September fifteenth.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Perfect.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
Get your tickets now, try to keep me away.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Riverbend dot org. Check out the full twenty twenty six
Riverbend schedule and get tickets again. It's so you can
get them online. You can also go to riverbend and
get him at the Taff Theater or the Andrew Brady
Music Center downtown. Awesome to see you, good, seeing you
as always. It's ten away from four o'clock. This is
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
From the UC.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
That's what's going on in the NFL. Boy, see, now
we've opened up Pandora's box. We had rose Marie here.
Now Tarren thinks we can just play pitful all the time.
I'm gonna have to have a staff meeting. Thanks in September.
That's right, Uh pull up questions on this show. Oh yeah,
(35:42):
the schedule release. They have these five games. The NFL
is trying to shoehorn into another streaming deal, and if
they get around to that, they'll get around to announcing.
Because you know, here's the thing that a lot of
folks love the schedule release because they start to plan
their lives and they they book trips, which is becoming
increasingly difficult because airfarre is going up, and you know,
(36:06):
people whose entire existence doesn't revolve around football. They've got
to make plans, they've got to hire babysitters. And the
earlier you could do that, the better. But the NFL
just believes you will do whatever they say, so that
might announce the schedule like in August. I have I
have no idea. Speaking of the NFL, we do have
to talk about Dac Sale changing homes and not moving
(36:29):
to another team. We'll do that a little bit later on.
The Reds play the Cubs tonight, and so some stuff
has begun to crater. The Reds starting pitching to a
degree has started to creter the bullpen. There's issues like
Emilio Pagan not being available is a problem, even if
(36:50):
you believe, as I do, that maybe he shouldn't be
the closer. Him not being available is a problem. And
the Reds bullpen, which for the first three or four
weeks was terrific, has recently not been terrific. And so
when deficiencies open up elsewhere, there's an area of the
(37:11):
team you look at and the flaws there are exposed.
You probably know what I'm talking about, and if you don't,
I will make that make sense a little bit later
on Plus in the four o'clock hour, Brennan and Jones
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Why is money? Sports? O Mega Wealth, Private capital on
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