May 8, 2026 • 14 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Is ESPN fifteen thirty Molager, thanks so much for listening today.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You've got a good week for the most part, we have.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Though I was off you Uny Chad Rendell phillip In
if you miss that, you can listen to his.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Show on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Jeff Carr from the Lockedown Reds podcast is generally speaking,
one of the most optimistically sane people I know when
it comes to this team, and I needed some sanity
and I needed some optimism. But before we get any
of that from Jeff, we have to say congratulations because
he put on his Instagram that he and his family
(00:38):
are going to be welcoming, as he puts it, a
new top prospect in September. And my question is by
the time that top prospect arrives a congratulations b.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Are the Reds going.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
To be in it?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Well, thank you so much for docing me. We're excited.
I think they will. I honestly think that this is
rock bottom and they are going to bounce back from this.
Doing this in May is much better than doing this
in September. While they have lost names and humiliating ways
and Tyler Steven's not remembering rules that you learn in
(01:13):
t ball and all of that great stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I think all of that gonna convolu They all right, Jeff,
I'm gonna do this. Your your connection isn't great. We're
gonna drop you and call you back. Okay, okay, very good,
Jeff Carr locked on Red's podcast, What if you want
some like it's not blind optimism as a consumer of
(01:37):
Jeff's work, it's not blind optimism.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
There's none of that.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
But you know, oftentimes what I'm feeling a little less
than optimistic about the Reds. You know, see what Jeff
has and at times I feel better, and if we
could establish a better connection, then you know, maybe he'll
he'll do that for us. We'll grab that here in
just a few minutes. We do have an I'll read
(02:01):
them for you in a few minutes. We do have
a few injury updates from Terry Francona from GABP that
we'll get to coming up in just a bit. Reds
are starting a six game homestand tonight three games against
the Houston Astros this weekend. We have re established a
connect with Jeff. Let's see if it sounds better, Hi, Jeff, Hey,
(02:21):
sorry about that.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I kept my foot on first on home plate and
I forget to tag the runner.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
All right, So let's go back to my original question.
By the time your new arrival gets here in September,
are the Reds going to be in it?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I believe that this is rock bottom, that they will
bounce back from this, and the fact that they're doing
this here in May not in September is the key.
But I really feel like we have seen them lose
games in ways that just don't make sense whatsoever. And
when you put all of that together, these are things
that the Reds can easily come back from. And we're
seeing a lot of guys go through some slumps right
(02:57):
now that they will bounce back from.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I guess here's my question. By the time they do
start to play better, how much of a hole they
have done.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I don't think it's going to get much bigger. I
think that they will win tonight. I see two out
of three against the Astros. Yes, the Ashers are playing
worse ball than the Roads right now, and I don't
necessarily know that they are going to bounce back from
their respective slumps. I mean, they've got a kind of
team that has a few veterans on it, but a
(03:27):
lot of not even top prospects, just guys that are
filling holes, especially in their pitching staff.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And the Reds are going to face one of those
guys tonight.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I would expect that they win two out of three
and we're going to feel much better about them on Monday.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
So for the first.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Month of the season or so, it was Sal Stewart
being awesome, Ellie teler Cruz being good, and then getting
these occasional bursts of production from guys like Nathaniel Lowe
recently JJ Bleda. But across the roster you have a
whole lot of guys who are not putting up very
good numbers, some worse than others, some maybe less surprising
than others. They more guys who are going to provide offense.
(04:02):
Where's the added offense going to come from?
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Yeah, I think that the biggest disappointment so far the
season for me has been the fact that these two
guys that we listed as X factors coming into the
year have not done it very much of anything. Between
noelvi Marte, who's performing better for the Louisville Bats than
the Cincinnati Reds.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
And Matt McClain, this team was going to.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Make up its deficit with anything between those two guys,
and nobody has stepped in to their roles. I think,
for me, the biggest guy I look at it at
the moment of Spencer Steeer. Spencer Steer has really come
on after a really tough first couple of weeks and
recently has been the most reliable bat in the lineup
from a day in and day out basis, whether.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
They facing the lefty or alrighty.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I think as we move along, he's going to be
the guy that you turn to.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
If you don't see what you need from Ellie and Sal,
who make no mistake about it, those guys need to
be going if the Reds are going to dominate a game,
but they can certainly win without those guys performing up
to the standard that we.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Expect from from each of them.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
And I believe that Sal's kind of been going through
a bit of a slump here. His batting average on
balls and play really has dipped over the last couple
of weeks, and so I think that that's just a
bit of an apparition. He's still swinging the bat really well.
I think that he's going to look a lot better
as we move forward and Spencer Steer is going to
be the kind of guy there in the lower part,
(05:28):
lower middle part of the order that's going to keep
everything going.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I got to get guys on base in the top
two spots in the batting order. And you know, TJ.
Friedel's not done that. Matt McClain was batting second. He's
been moved down in the batting order. There's a great
amount of frustration with Matt h they've moved him down.
They've had games where he hasn't started. How long should
his leash be given the fact that twenty twenty three
is becoming an increasingly long time ago.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I think if we're.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Hitting Memorial Day and he's still hitting at the Mendoza line,
they've really got to consider other options. And we've seen
what the Reds are doing in TRIPAA with Edwin Arroyo
moving him between second base and third base. They're basically
telling him that they are ready to call him out.
They just got to make sure he's got positional flexibility
that they can move him into two areas of need.
(06:17):
And Matt McClain has shown these games where it's like
things are clicking, But I still feel like I am
more comfortable at the BMV than Matt McClain is in
the batter's box on a day in a day out basis.
Like he mentioned in spring training to Jim Day that
last year, he really got stuck in a rut in
the process, in the mechanics and the day to day
(06:39):
motions that he needs to worry about for each and
every pitch, and he kind of forgot about just competing
and going out and winning ball games. And so he
was so stuck in the process. And I feel like
that's where he is again. And so I don't know
if it's a mental thing. I don't know if it's
a confidence thing, but we need to see this turnaround
very quickly. Use the Reds are going to need to pivot,
(07:02):
because I mean, they have told us, as much as
it nauseates people to hear after a seven game win
losing streak that they are going for the division, And
if they're truly going to do that, then they cannot
continue to stand on loyalty to individuals in lieu of
performance on the field.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
You know, you mentioned the division, and I there's a
few other sort of Reds nuts and bolts things I
want to ask you about, but you mentioned the division,
and I think there's a sense, okay, like there's going
to be drop off somewhere, and it still feels like
the most likely place is Saint Louis, but it hasn't
happened yet. Pittsburgh has rebounded nicely. It kind of felt
like last year things were starting to teeter on the
(07:43):
brink a little bit. I'm just a believer that the
Milwaukee Brewers are never going to be non competitive, but
I am starting to fear, and I feel like a
lot of Reds fans are doing the same. And maybe
it's an overreaction to watching them play for consecutive games,
like maybe the Cubs are just going to be too good.
Do you do you have that fear at all that
even if the play better, even if some of these
teams in the division end up regressing a little bit, that,
(08:05):
you know what, the team that was the odds on
favorite to begin the season, the team that is clearly
the odds on favorite now, the Chicago Cubs are just
gonna be too tough to catch and ultimately pass.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I don't because I feel like the Reds lost four
games more than the Cubs won four games. I didn't
feel like the Cubs played a good brand of baseball.
I just felt like the Reds played a really poor
brand of baseball. Between the walks and the errors and
the base running mistakes and things like that, they gave
so many extra opportunities to the Cubs that had the
(08:39):
Reds been better in the margins, I feel like they
would have easily split this series. You could argue they
would have won three out of four, and so for me,
I think that there was a couple of plays in
between the losses that the Reds could have switched those
games to wins and we'd be talking about a completely
different thing with this team in with the Cubs right now,
as opposed to a fifteen winning streak such that they
(09:01):
haven't done since the IVY was on the wall at
regular Field.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
The bullpen.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So Tito says in the aftermath of Emilio Pegun's injury,
He's not gonna name a closer.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Do you believe that's the right approach?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
I think that there are two guys that he needs
to be focused on, and that's between Graham Ashcraft and
Tony Santion. Those two dudes have pitched so well to
begin this season, and I feel as though I can
rely on both of them all. Beit Graham Ashcraft just
blew a save two days ago, and I understand that,
but I think that ultimately his body of work looks very,
(09:36):
very good, and he continues to progress toward what I
expect him to be the closer of this team in
the future. And Tony Santion has been so good at
tunneling his fastball and slider, the guys that are just
on their heels every time he's on the mound, so
I can understand what he's talking about. He don't want
to name one of those two, but certainly if he's
looking outside of those two, then sure his strategy is
(09:57):
completely off base.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
But those are the two guys for me.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Trades aren't made in May for the most part, not
that they're never made, but you know, when we talk
about outside acquisitions, players who can help from you know,
other teams, those conversations are usually aimed at mid to
late July, between that and between the farm system on
May eighth. Is there somebody from outside that realistically could
(10:24):
be added, And I know I'm sort of putting you
on the spot here that would that would be capable
of helping this team.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Realistically know because I think that the number one guy
that I look at is Byron Buxton. And I think
that the Twins know that they can just sit on
their hands. I mean, they traded eleven major league players
last season, most of them are leavers, and most of
them on the deadline day. They waited till the last
minute until they had all of the offers that they
could pick from, and then they made the choices that
(10:55):
they made, and I don't see them moving quickly.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I also don't think.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
That either the Red Sox or the Nets believe that
they are as bad as their current standing. So neither
one of those teams is gonna sell because I see
people all the time saying, go get Willy or Bray,
You go get Marcientos, or go get something, And I
just don't think that teams in this day and age,
where seven teams from each league make the playoffs, fancy
(11:21):
them sells sellers. In May, the only thing that I
could see the reds doing is going and signing.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Like a free agent.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
But then that means that he's got a ramp up time,
whether he's an Outflorida or outfielder or a pitcher, And
so I just don't see a trade happening.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Is it unfair to wonder if Tito's gonna run Ellie
dela Cruz and Sal Steward into the ground, or do
you fear that maybe such a thing with sell in
particular has already happened.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Sally, I don't I think that he's going to get
some more off time. I wonder about Ellie because his
main backup is the main guy that keeps struggling Clay,
and maybe that's another reason to call up Edwin Arroyo
and add him to the bench. But as it stands
right now, the only viable guy that they're putting at
(12:08):
shortstop is Matt McClain if Elie de la Cruz isn't there.
And so I hope that at some point we see
Ellie get a breather. But I do worry about that
because it seems as though Terry Francona told us in
spring training he would give him more off days. He
has yet to make good on that after and there
(12:28):
was also the other bit of him saying at the
end of that. But you know, I admire the fact
that he wants to play every day, and Tito might
even be loyal to a fault in this because we
keep seeing these guys get run out there and key
Brian Hayes at the top of the list, that we
wonder why they keep getting so many chances and loyalty
is the only thing that I can come up with
(12:49):
as an explanation.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Are you inundated with bad advice from people who already
have kids now that you're going to have one.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I did get some some good advice the other day
to work more on my upper body strength, which I've
been focusing more on core. Okay, hiring beers to help,
but ultimately, yeah, the upper body strength seems like a
good idea. I've always thought that was, you know, just
you know, the show muscles and should work out some
other muscles.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
So now they're telling me to do more curls.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I'm going to do more curls, man, Yeah, maybe I
should do some. Well. Congratulations, I appreciate you doing this, man,
and I hope you're right. I don't figure in the
majority right now, but I hope you're right. We'll learn
more in the Lockdown Reds podcast. Thanks so much, we'll
chat again soon.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Well appreciate you've been doing this for seven seasons now,
and I haven't been in the majority of one of them.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
That go right guts our guy Jeff Carr, The Locked
On Reds Podcast, The Expected Father twenty five from four
o'clock on Moegger. Well, maybe squeeze in.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
A phone call or two.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Why not.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station Cincinnati's ESPN
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Is ESPN fifteen thirty Molager, thanks so much for listening today.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You've got a good week for the most part, we have.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Though I was off you Uny Chad Rendell phillip In
if you miss that, you can listen to his.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Show on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Jeff Carr from the Lockedown Reds podcast is generally speaking,
one of the most optimistically sane people I know when
it comes to this team, and I needed some sanity
and I needed some optimism. But before we get any
of that from Jeff, we have to say congratulations because
he put on his Instagram that he and his family
(00:38):
are going to be welcoming, as he puts it, a
new top prospect in September. And my question is by
the time that top prospect arrives a congratulations b.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Are the Reds going.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
To be in it?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Well, thank you so much for docing me. We're excited.
I think they will. I honestly think that this is
rock bottom and they are going to bounce back from this.
Doing this in May is much better than doing this
in September. While they have lost names and humiliating ways
and Tyler Steven's not remembering rules that you learn in
(01:13):
t ball and all of that great stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I think all of that gonna convolu They all right, Jeff,
I'm gonna do this. Your your connection isn't great. We're
gonna drop you and call you back. Okay, okay, very good,
Jeff Carr locked on Red's podcast, What if you want
some like it's not blind optimism as a consumer of
(01:37):
Jeff's work, it's not blind optimism.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
There's none of that.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
But you know, oftentimes what I'm feeling a little less
than optimistic about the Reds. You know, see what Jeff
has and at times I feel better, and if we
could establish a better connection, then you know, maybe he'll
he'll do that for us. We'll grab that here in
just a few minutes. We do have an I'll read
(02:01):
them for you in a few minutes. We do have
a few injury updates from Terry Francona from GABP that
we'll get to coming up in just a bit. Reds
are starting a six game homestand tonight three games against
the Houston Astros this weekend. We have re established a
connect with Jeff. Let's see if it sounds better, Hi, Jeff, Hey,
(02:21):
sorry about that.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I kept my foot on first on home plate and
I forget to tag the runner.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
All right, So let's go back to my original question.
By the time your new arrival gets here in September,
are the Reds going to be in it?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I believe that this is rock bottom, that they will
bounce back from this, and the fact that they're doing
this here in May not in September is the key.
But I really feel like we have seen them lose
games in ways that just don't make sense whatsoever. And
when you put all of that together, these are things
that the Reds can easily come back from. And we're
seeing a lot of guys go through some slumps right
(02:57):
now that they will bounce back from.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I guess here's my question. By the time they do
start to play better, how much of a hole they
have done.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I don't think it's going to get much bigger. I
think that they will win tonight. I see two out
of three against the Astros. Yes, the Ashers are playing
worse ball than the Roads right now, and I don't
necessarily know that they are going to bounce back from
their respective slumps. I mean, they've got a kind of
team that has a few veterans on it, but a
(03:27):
lot of not even top prospects, just guys that are
filling holes, especially in their pitching staff.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And the Reds are going to face one of those
guys tonight.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I would expect that they win two out of three
and we're going to feel much better about them on Monday.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
So for the first.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Month of the season or so, it was Sal Stewart
being awesome, Ellie teler Cruz being good, and then getting
these occasional bursts of production from guys like Nathaniel Lowe
recently JJ Bleda. But across the roster you have a
whole lot of guys who are not putting up very
good numbers, some worse than others, some maybe less surprising
than others. They more guys who are going to provide offense.
(04:02):
Where's the added offense going to come from?
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Yeah, I think that the biggest disappointment so far the
season for me has been the fact that these two
guys that we listed as X factors coming into the
year have not done it very much of anything. Between
noelvi Marte, who's performing better for the Louisville Bats than
the Cincinnati Reds.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
And Matt McClain, this team was going to.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Make up its deficit with anything between those two guys,
and nobody has stepped in to their roles. I think,
for me, the biggest guy I look at it at
the moment of Spencer Steeer. Spencer Steer has really come
on after a really tough first couple of weeks and
recently has been the most reliable bat in the lineup
from a day in and day out basis, whether.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
They facing the lefty or alrighty.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I think as we move along, he's going to be
the guy that you turn to.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
If you don't see what you need from Ellie and Sal,
who make no mistake about it, those guys need to
be going if the Reds are going to dominate a game,
but they can certainly win without those guys performing up
to the standard that we.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Expect from from each of them.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
And I believe that Sal's kind of been going through
a bit of a slump here. His batting average on
balls and play really has dipped over the last couple
of weeks, and so I think that that's just a
bit of an apparition. He's still swinging the bat really well.
I think that he's going to look a lot better
as we move forward and Spencer Steer is going to
be the kind of guy there in the lower part,
(05:28):
lower middle part of the order that's going to keep
everything going.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I got to get guys on base in the top
two spots in the batting order. And you know, TJ.
Friedel's not done that. Matt McClain was batting second. He's
been moved down in the batting order. There's a great
amount of frustration with Matt h they've moved him down.
They've had games where he hasn't started. How long should
his leash be given the fact that twenty twenty three
is becoming an increasingly long time ago.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I think if we're.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Hitting Memorial Day and he's still hitting at the Mendoza line,
they've really got to consider other options. And we've seen
what the Reds are doing in TRIPAA with Edwin Arroyo
moving him between second base and third base. They're basically
telling him that they are ready to call him out.
They just got to make sure he's got positional flexibility
that they can move him into two areas of need.
(06:17):
And Matt McClain has shown these games where it's like
things are clicking, But I still feel like I am
more comfortable at the BMV than Matt McClain is in
the batter's box on a day in a day out basis.
Like he mentioned in spring training to Jim Day that
last year, he really got stuck in a rut in
the process, in the mechanics and the day to day
(06:39):
motions that he needs to worry about for each and
every pitch, and he kind of forgot about just competing
and going out and winning ball games. And so he
was so stuck in the process. And I feel like
that's where he is again. And so I don't know
if it's a mental thing. I don't know if it's
a confidence thing, but we need to see this turnaround
very quickly. Use the Reds are going to need to pivot,
(07:02):
because I mean, they have told us, as much as
it nauseates people to hear after a seven game win
losing streak that they are going for the division, And
if they're truly going to do that, then they cannot
continue to stand on loyalty to individuals in lieu of
performance on the field.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
You know, you mentioned the division, and I there's a
few other sort of Reds nuts and bolts things I
want to ask you about, but you mentioned the division,
and I think there's a sense, okay, like there's going
to be drop off somewhere, and it still feels like
the most likely place is Saint Louis, but it hasn't
happened yet. Pittsburgh has rebounded nicely. It kind of felt
like last year things were starting to teeter on the
(07:43):
brink a little bit. I'm just a believer that the
Milwaukee Brewers are never going to be non competitive, but
I am starting to fear, and I feel like a
lot of Reds fans are doing the same. And maybe
it's an overreaction to watching them play for consecutive games,
like maybe the Cubs are just going to be too good.
Do you do you have that fear at all that
even if the play better, even if some of these
teams in the division end up regressing a little bit, that,
(08:05):
you know what, the team that was the odds on
favorite to begin the season, the team that is clearly
the odds on favorite now, the Chicago Cubs are just
gonna be too tough to catch and ultimately pass.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I don't because I feel like the Reds lost four
games more than the Cubs won four games. I didn't
feel like the Cubs played a good brand of baseball.
I just felt like the Reds played a really poor
brand of baseball. Between the walks and the errors and
the base running mistakes and things like that, they gave
so many extra opportunities to the Cubs that had the
(08:39):
Reds been better in the margins, I feel like they
would have easily split this series. You could argue they
would have won three out of four, and so for me,
I think that there was a couple of plays in
between the losses that the Reds could have switched those
games to wins and we'd be talking about a completely
different thing with this team in with the Cubs right now,
as opposed to a fifteen winning streak such that they
(09:01):
haven't done since the IVY was on the wall at
regular Field.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
The bullpen.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So Tito says in the aftermath of Emilio Pegun's injury,
He's not gonna name a closer.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Do you believe that's the right approach?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
I think that there are two guys that he needs
to be focused on, and that's between Graham Ashcraft and
Tony Santion. Those two dudes have pitched so well to
begin this season, and I feel as though I can
rely on both of them all. Beit Graham Ashcraft just
blew a save two days ago, and I understand that,
but I think that ultimately his body of work looks very,
(09:36):
very good, and he continues to progress toward what I
expect him to be the closer of this team in
the future. And Tony Santion has been so good at
tunneling his fastball and slider, the guys that are just
on their heels every time he's on the mound, so
I can understand what he's talking about. He don't want
to name one of those two, but certainly if he's
looking outside of those two, then sure his strategy is
(09:57):
completely off base.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
But those are the two guys for me.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Trades aren't made in May for the most part, not
that they're never made, but you know, when we talk
about outside acquisitions, players who can help from you know,
other teams, those conversations are usually aimed at mid to
late July, between that and between the farm system on
May eighth. Is there somebody from outside that realistically could
(10:24):
be added, And I know I'm sort of putting you
on the spot here that would that would be capable
of helping this team.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Realistically know because I think that the number one guy
that I look at is Byron Buxton. And I think
that the Twins know that they can just sit on
their hands. I mean, they traded eleven major league players
last season, most of them are leavers, and most of
them on the deadline day. They waited till the last
minute until they had all of the offers that they
could pick from, and then they made the choices that
(10:55):
they made, and I don't see them moving quickly.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I also don't think.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
That either the Red Sox or the Nets believe that
they are as bad as their current standing. So neither
one of those teams is gonna sell because I see
people all the time saying, go get Willy or Bray,
You go get Marcientos, or go get something, And I
just don't think that teams in this day and age,
where seven teams from each league make the playoffs, fancy
(11:21):
them sells sellers. In May, the only thing that I
could see the reds doing is going and signing.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Like a free agent.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
But then that means that he's got a ramp up time,
whether he's an Outflorida or outfielder or a pitcher, And
so I just don't see a trade happening.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Is it unfair to wonder if Tito's gonna run Ellie
dela Cruz and Sal Steward into the ground, or do
you fear that maybe such a thing with sell in
particular has already happened.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Sally, I don't I think that he's going to get
some more off time. I wonder about Ellie because his
main backup is the main guy that keeps struggling Clay,
and maybe that's another reason to call up Edwin Arroyo
and add him to the bench. But as it stands
right now, the only viable guy that they're putting at
(12:08):
shortstop is Matt McClain if Elie de la Cruz isn't there.
And so I hope that at some point we see
Ellie get a breather. But I do worry about that
because it seems as though Terry Francona told us in
spring training he would give him more off days. He
has yet to make good on that after and there
(12:28):
was also the other bit of him saying at the
end of that. But you know, I admire the fact
that he wants to play every day, and Tito might
even be loyal to a fault in this because we
keep seeing these guys get run out there and key
Brian Hayes at the top of the list, that we
wonder why they keep getting so many chances and loyalty
is the only thing that I can come up with
(12:49):
as an explanation.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Are you inundated with bad advice from people who already
have kids now that you're going to have one.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I did get some some good advice the other day
to work more on my upper body strength, which I've
been focusing more on core. Okay, hiring beers to help,
but ultimately, yeah, the upper body strength seems like a
good idea. I've always thought that was, you know, just
you know, the show muscles and should work out some
other muscles.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
So now they're telling me to do more curls.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I'm going to do more curls, man, Yeah, maybe I
should do some. Well. Congratulations, I appreciate you doing this, man,
and I hope you're right. I don't figure in the
majority right now, but I hope you're right. We'll learn
more in the Lockdown Reds podcast. Thanks so much, we'll
chat again soon.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Well appreciate you've been doing this for seven seasons now,
and I haven't been in the majority of one of them.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
That go right guts our guy Jeff Carr, The Locked
On Reds Podcast, The Expected Father twenty five from four
o'clock on Moegger. Well, maybe squeeze in.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
A phone call or two.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Why not.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station Cincinnati's ESPN
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