5/9/25 - The Mo Egger Radio Show - Mo Egger

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FC Cincinnati, who, by the way, is reportedly finalizing a deal.
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in just a second. That series in Atlanta felt like

(01:05):
it wasn't a four game series, but it was a
twenty four game series. And maybe that's just because of
the length of the series. Maybe it's because every game
had a lot of weird and for the most part,
stuff that went against the Reds. Like it is just
a hard four games in Atlanta, a brutal series, a brutal,
brutal series, more injuries, more players while the Reds were

(01:29):
in Atlanta went on the injured list. Then the Reds
had wins three to one, two of the three losses
in extra innings. Two of the three losses. Those extra
innings losses were games where you had a lead going
into the ninth inning. Two of those losses the two
extra innings losses losses where the defense failed you. Heck,

(01:49):
the series was so bad that the one game they
won all anybody cared about, and understandably so was Hunter
Green getting hurt like that game on Wednesday. The results
of it kind of a footnote because of the Hunter
Green thing.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Last night.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Offensively, deeply frustrating. They tie the game, have the bases
loaded in the seventh with one out and McLain and
Dela Cruz strikeout. They can't score the tenth, despite having
the go ahead run on second base with nobody out.
They can't score in the eleventh, despite having the magic
runner on second base with nobody out. It is remarkable,

(02:30):
and I need somebody who has far more time on
their hands than me to look this up. The Reds
have played in four extra innings games. They're zero to
four in extra innings. The first three games didn't get
past the tenth. Last night's game got to the eleventh,
so they have played five extra innings, four tenth innings,

(02:52):
and an eleventh inning. In each inning, the Reds started
the inning with a guy in scoring position a guy
on second. In neither instance does the Red score. I
want somebody to tell me what the odds of that
happening are. They do score in the ninth rees Heines

(03:15):
goes big, goes big, he goes deep, which was big,
and you know, I'm thinking, like, awesome, Thursday Night's gonna
be about Reese Hines. Friday afternoon on ESPN fifteen thirty
is gonna be about rees Hines. Instead, they give up
the lead in the ninth in part because Reese Hines

(03:35):
can't handle a fly ball, Graham Ashcraft can't keep from
walking the lead off guy in the ninth, And they
don't score later in extra innings in the eleventh in
part because they can't get a butt down. And yes,
they certainly did, in my opinion, get an obstruction call
that went against him on the play where Blake Dunn
tried to steal second base. Ozzie Albi's obstructed That is

(03:58):
not reviewable. I don't understand why Terry Francona got tossed.
He didn't know he got tossed, so it was almost
like he got tossed a second time and the Reds lose.
Here's Tito after last night's game.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
I thought he went down to ask him that should
Maybe he didn't, so I didn't know where he did tell.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
Me he was going to do that.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Who was the deal and have played? It?

Speaker 5 (04:24):
Was?

Speaker 3 (04:24):
It was it all these maybe blocking? Yeah? They yeah,
I mean had his knee in front of the base.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
There's no way duncan standa base and it's unfortunate.

Speaker 7 (04:38):
And had to visit series to come away from knowing
how how close these games.

Speaker 6 (04:43):
For this one, I really don't look back very far.
Tonight was really tough. Will we'll better bounce back quick
because then we will. I mean they we made some mistakes.
We didn't play a clean game. We left some chances
out there, but we still competed like crazy, which I love.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
So we'll strap it on tomorrow and see what we
can do a little better.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
They competed like crazy. They competed like crazy. I for
the most part don't care what a manager says after
a game, and I certainly do understand that what a
manager says after the game, there's not going to be
a ton of meat on the bone. He's not going
to air out as players individually, Terry Francona over the

(05:29):
course of the week looked more frustrated with every passing game,
and you can understand why, with all the injuries, with
the losses, with the way they lost, But they competed
like crazy. For me, is just not something I'm interested in.
It's just not something i'm interested in. It's not something

(05:51):
I'm interested in because it doesn't matter. Competing is implied. Man,
I'm sorry. Whenever I hear someone go on and at
about they really played hard, I'm like, yeah, they're supposed
to it really played hard? Well, yeah, I would assume
that they really really battled it, really competed.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
I assume that no metals for that, no points for that,
no rings for that, no banners for that.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
They competed. It's neat they lost.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
It's all the counts and they lost because while they competed,
they didn't execute.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Here's what I'll know.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
The Reds are different. When we praise their execution instead
of their effort. That's when we're gonna know the Reds
are ready to be a big boy baseball team, when
they're really seriously ready to contend. When we're done hearing
about what the underlying metrics say, and we're done hearing
about run differential and we're done talking about treading water,

(06:53):
we're probably gonna be at a point where we could
see the execution and we're talking about the execution, and
instead of talking about the effort or how they're competing,
we're talking about the execution. The executioner to this team,
frankly stinks. We talked about this ad nauseum after the
game on Tuesday where Matt McClain lets Stewart Fairchild score

(07:16):
the game tying run in the bottom of the ninth inning.
It's not about blame. I do not care who's to blame.
Who's to blame is irrelevant. The fact that the run
scores and that the play isn't made is what matters.
The first thirty nine games they've played this year, right
we're approaching the quarter poll, We're almost there. The first

(07:36):
thirty nine games for me have not been a success.
And if you're not a success. You're a failure. Are
they a failure because going into this weekend they have
one more loss than win?

Speaker 2 (07:48):
No?

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Are they a failure because individual players maybe haven't performed
as well as we would have thought. No, are they
a failure because they have failed to get through certain
stretches with more wins than law is when they were
playing bad teams. No are they a failure because they've
had to deal with a lot of injuries. No, they're
a failure because we've spent the first quarter of this

(08:08):
season saying the same things we said about last season.
Last season was so not good enough it got last
year's manager fired. We're still talking about this team not
being able to execute. We're still talking about this team
not doing the little things. We're still clinging to the
idea that, well they're at least competing, this team will

(08:31):
be worth taking seriously when instead of talking about how
hard they play, we talk about how well they execute.
In the eleventh inning last night, Blake Dunn tried to
lay a bunt down. Now I know I'm the guy
who hates the sacrifice bunt. Mathematically, the sacrifice bunt doesn't

(08:52):
make a lot of sense to me. The Braves used
the sacrifice bunt in the ninth inning last night.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
And it worked.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
By the way, it was really pretty a suicide squeeze
with a guy on first going to second. Like aesthetically,
it's a beautiful play. And I will also admit there
are times where I think it makes sense to lay
down a bunt. Laying down a bunt is one thing.
Laying down a bunt and giving giving your team no

(09:18):
chance to benefit from the bunt is another, Like if
you're gonna do it, and like, there's a whole different
conversation about the exact situation the Reds were in last
night that we're gonna have here in a few minutes.
But let's just talk about the bunt that Blake Dunn
tried to lay down. Blake Dunn is not on the
team because he's great with the bat. If he's great

(09:41):
with the bat, if he's a good hitter, he wouldn't
be asked to bunt with a guy on second base
and nobody out. So we know he's on the team
because I hear about his sprint speed all the time.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
It's cool. I guess he's a pretty good fielder. That's fine.
You're on the team.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
You're on the team to help widen the margins of
this team a little bit. So you're up there, nobody out,
guy on second base and you're bunting. If you're going
to bunt, you cannot bunt the ball right at Matt
Oleson when he's almost in your lap. I mean, was

(10:17):
he was all that was missing for Matt Olson last
night were like a pair of pasties. He was that
much in Blake Dunn's lap and he bunted the ball
right to him. Even even Terry Francona after the game said, like,
gotta bunt the ball toward third base. I've never laid
down a bunt in a big league game, and if
I were asked to lay down a bunt in a
big league game, I would go to the manager and
go no, because it's bad strategy. But I gotta think,

(10:41):
if you're on the team to bunt and you're being
asked to bunt in that situation, tie game eleventh thting't
guy on second base, the expectation is you're not gonna
bun it right at the guy charging right at you.
I also have no idea why Santiago Espinal is just
charging toward third base. Uh consequence this is be damned likes.

(11:03):
It's a bad bunt. Go back to second, you'll still
be in his scoring position. I know from there again,
Blake Dunn tried to steal second. Obstruction should have been
called on. Ozzie Albi's Terry Francona rightfully lost his mind.
Colin cow Gill, the first base coach, rightfully lost his mind.
But it never should have gotten to that because if
you're gonna bunt, and I wouldn't have there for reasons

(11:24):
we're gonna talk about here. But if you're gonna do it, dude,
you can't bun it right at the guy almost sitting
in your lap.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
You can't.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
We know what happened from there. I assume the Reds
are gonna play hard tonight. It's built in. It's built in.
It's a built in assumption. The Reds have not won
anything of any major consequence in a very long time.
I've rarely thought it's because of lack of effort. I've
watched some ninety four, ninety five, ninety eight one hundred

(11:54):
loss Reds teams in recent years. That team three years
ago is maybe the worst Reds team in franchise history.
Lost one hundred games. Dreadful. One of the worst baseball
teams I've ever watched. Painful, every single day, hard to
talk about. I never thought effort was lacking. I never thought, man,
they're not competing hard. I didn't care they lost one

(12:16):
hundred games. I'm not interested in how they compete, nor
should you be. Let's take this team seriously when we're
talking more about how well they execute, instead of covering
up for their lack of execution by praising how hard
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Speaker 7 (12:50):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
You're welcome to chime in, even if it's for no
other reason, to just get something off your chest. This
was I think this was the most frustrating week the
Reds have had in quite a while.

Speaker 7 (12:59):
Man.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
And you know, the Braves are better than their record,
and it's hard to go to Atlanta and win. By
the way, it's not that big of a deal losing
three out of four to the Braves if you don't
lose two out of three to the Marlins or if
you don't split that series against the Cardinals, or if
you don't lose two out of three at home to
the Washington Nationals, I cant face value. Okay, you lost

(13:21):
three out of four, but two of those games they
had leads going into the ninth and some of these
games they lost because despite the fact they played hard,
they continued to not execute. When will the twenty twenty
four Red season end and give way to the twenty

(13:42):
twenty five Red Season which has seemingly yet to begin.
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So the play in the eleventh inning last night. I
just I know him, the anti bunting guy. I don't
think you've bought in that situation for one simple reason.
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So we talked a lot about the lack of execution
of this team and if you're going to bunt in
the eleventh thinning, and look, maybe it doesn't make a difference,
but if you're gonna bunt the eleventh thinning, if you're

(16:22):
gonna ask Blake done to bunt, then he can't bunt
it right at the first basement. As a general rule,
I don't think in reasonable minds will disagree I don't
think bunting is very good strategy. I don't agree for
the most part, and there are exceptions with giving up
and out. Now you could bunt and it may work
out for you, you know, it doesn't make it great.
Straight You could also call a run play on third

(16:43):
and twenty one the guy runs for twenty two yards,
it doesn't mean it's good strategy.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
So as a general.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Rule, I don't like it when the Reds try to
attempt a bunt. And again there are situations that provide exceptions,
but I think last night in the eleventh inning, you
really don't want to bunt there, And again reasonable minds
will disagree. But here's how I look at it. The
redge of the road team last night because we have

(17:12):
rob Manford Ball since twenty twenty, where everybody has to
start with a guy on second base once we get
to extra innings, and I'm never going to be on
board with that rule, but it's not going away. Everybody
starts with a runner on second base, which means I
almost assume that every team's going to score at least
once every time they come to the plate in extra innings.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
So I believe if you're the road team.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
You should operate as if the team you're playing when
they come to the plate in the bottom half of
the inning will score. I think in the eleventh inning
last night, despite the fact that neither team played today
run in the tenth, I think in the top of
the eleventh it's a four to four game, you have
to assume the Braves are gonna get that fifth run.

(18:03):
To me, at least, when you bunt, you're playing for
one run. You're playing little ball. And yes, there are
some situations where you know, maybe it makes sense to
play little ball, like if you're in a tie game
and you're the home team and you're batting and you
only need one I think the way you should play it,

(18:24):
and I would imagine there are many within the game
who feel the same way. I think it makes sense.
It's almost like playing blackjack, right where you assume the
hold cards a ten or a face card. I think
you should play the top of the inning, whether it's
the tenth, the eleventh, or twelfth, you should play it
under the assumption the other team's gonna score. And so

(18:46):
to me, when you bunt a guy over to third base,
you're giving up the out, you're moving the guy over.
If the guy gets the bunt down, which Blake Dunn
didn't do last night, but you're playing for that one run. Now,
the next guy might come up and hit a two
run homer, or the next five hitters may come to
the plate and you have a big inning. But I
think in that situation last night, Terry Francona is playing
for one run. And you know, I don't say this

(19:08):
because the Braves ended up scoring in the eleventh. I
say it because if you score one run neat you.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Have the lead.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
But then instantly the other guy's gonna come to the plate.
They've got the time, run on second base and three
outs to play with. There's a very good chance they're
gonna score. I'm gonna go look this up. What your
odds are of scoring a run in any inning, regardless
of who the hitter is, regardless of who the pitcher is,
If you've got a guy on second base and nobody else,
the chances are pretty good. So for me in that

(19:37):
situation last night, it goes beyond just not liking the
sack bunt as a strategy. I've had two people, one
at breakfast today and the other here at work. We're
like well, you're gonna rant and rave about the bunt,
and I go, I'm not gonna rant and rave about
the bun. I'm gonna rant and rave about the lack
of execution on the bunt play. But situationally, I just
don't think when you're the road team you should be

(19:58):
playing for one run when you really need to. I mean,
we've seen situations like this where the Reds or somebody
else has scored in the top half of the eleventh inning.
They score a run and then the other team all
they need is, you know, a hit to tie the game.
And if the leadoff guy gets a hit and the
guy scores, now the game is tied and they got

(20:20):
the winning run on base. They then can play little ball.
So you're you're welcome to tell me if I'm wrong.
And again, this isn't me being the anti bunt guy,
even if I loved sacrifice bunts, even if I loved
even if I watched baseball like it was nineteen eighty
two when you know they just sacrifice bunts. Man was
that was like a high time in the eighties for

(20:41):
sacrifice buns. Even if I was one of those fans.
Remember when pitchers were allowed to hit. And I would
joke about this all the time, Like you go to
a Reds game and a guy would hit it like
a two.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Run homer, and the crowd would.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Go wild, but not as wild as they would go,
and like the pitcher would lay down a successful sacrifice,
like the self congratulatory over the top applaud for a
guy making an out.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
I always laughed at this isn't me being anti bunt guy.
It's me.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Looking at extra innings through a certain lens, and in
my opinion, obviously the correct lens. I think you have
to operate under the assumption when you're on the road
that the other team will score at least one run. Obviously,
sometimes they won't, obviously, hopefully they don't. Look the Braves
had guy on second base, nobody out in the bottom

(21:35):
of the tenth inning and did not score. Did not
score in part because Luis may looks like a dude.
But that was my issue with that play last night. Again,
like Blake Dunn could have lined into a double play,
he could have hit a two run homer, he could
have struck out. I mean, who knows how it unfolds
if he swings away. I just think you have to

(21:57):
play for two runs, no matter who's up, no matter
who the other team is, no matter who the the
first runner is, no matter who the magic runner is.
I think you have to play for two runs when
you're the road team. So that was my issue last night.
You were welcome to tell me that I'm right, that
I'm wrong, that you disagreed that your favorite part of
baseball's all sacrifice. But I that play last night isn't

(22:19):
about being the anti bunt guy. It's about not executing
the bunt when you were asked to do it. And
also in that situation, it's just for my money at least,
not great strategy.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
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He also you'll hear this later on.

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Scoring five goals. So there we go.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
I mentioned the Bengals and they had their rookie mini
caamp today, just a one day mini camp, which which
I'm I'm sure some are gonna go, well, what's the
deal with the one day mini caamp? Here is Zach
Taylor chatting with reporters about the mini camp.

Speaker 11 (25:41):
It's important, you know, and we always take a lot
of pride here. You know, we are not hesitant to
put undrafted players on our fifty three man roster for
not hesitant to put them in the game, not the.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Play for us.

Speaker 11 (25:51):
You saw Muma make the roster of last year and
getting games. You saw Shaka play at the end of
the year. Undrafted guy, I saw Cam Grandy undrafted get
on the field for us. And so that's the message
to these undrafted guys is if you're undrafted and you
want to get a chance to make a rosterm play
football comes since that we're going to give you the
same opportunity we give draft picks. And we've shown that
over the years and we've had guys that have really

(26:13):
stepped up and played a role for us. And we'll
continue to search through these guys and see who.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Can help us.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
I did a terrible job of setting up that audio.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
That was Zach answering a question about the class of
undrafted rookie free agents. Dan Horde asked the question, and
the Bengals only had six draft picks this year, and
the question was essentially about you know and added important, sir,
and added significance to the class of undrafted free agents
given the fact that there aren't as many rookies who

(26:42):
came specifically from the draft. The Bengals did today announce
the a whole slew of rookie players they have signed,
and we'll give you the entire list coming up here
in just a bit. But I think there's a real
sense that Howard Crossed, the defensive tackle from Notre Dame
and Eric Gregory, the defensive tackle for Arkansas, among others,
legitimately have a chance to make this team as undrafted

(27:04):
rookie free agents. And you heard Zach mention muman Jetta
who had a great camp last year, a good preseason
and then made the team. And uh, we'll spent the
entire season with the team.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
We'll see you want to hear Zach Taylor across like
two seconds here explaining why neither Shamar Stewart or Demetrius
Knight practice today.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Go ahead, Tarr and play that cut.

Speaker 11 (27:28):
No, they're just working through their contracts right now.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
See there you go. That's what he said. That's what
he said.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
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gonna get to Tyler Terrence here in just a couple
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(28:20):
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Speaker 2 (28:24):
I'm Rick Shrimp with soccer right now.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
FC Cincinnati is trying to bounce back after seeing their
five game winning streak get snapped in New York on Saturday.
They are back at home tomorrow night Tilt against Austin.
Match starts at seven thirty. You can catch it on
MLS Season Pass on Apple TV. With the Pride of
Cincinnati is a new hometown. I believe he has called

(28:47):
two FC Cincinnati matches this year. Our friend Tyler terrences
with us. It's good to have you. What's going on?

Speaker 12 (28:54):
What's going on? Though, I don't know if I can
call myself the Pride of Cincinnati just set considering I've
only been here for eighteen months. I still yet to
actually go to a skyline Chile. I've only had it
once at at pay Corps, So I don't know if
I can take that title yet, but I'll take it
for the moment.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
I'm thinking about rescinding it because of the skyline thing.
So that's I don't know.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 12 (29:13):
I kicked you off right off the bat. I probably
couldn't have been.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
That well, you know, that's fine. Everybody has their flaws.
You you had FC Cincinnati about two months ago for
the first time, and obviously you know they saw their
winning streak get snapped in New York on Saturday night.
But still this team is playing a lot better than
when you had it in early March.

Speaker 12 (29:34):
Yes, I think that they're playing a lot better, and
certainly the results would speak to that. What's interesting is that,
like you know, Pat Noonan has said it, I've been
thinking it, and most of you know the mlf's experts
have too, which is that they're still not playing anywhere
close to their best soccer. Mo. I mean, when you
think about what this is supposed to look like in
the attacking front between Kevin Dane and Luca Ordoshano and
a Vander and how much money they spent on all

(29:56):
three of those guys alone, and the and the sort
of new three headed masters that exists on the West
end of Cincinnati comparatively to Lucio Brenner and Brandon Basquez,
it still isn't good enough. And Patton Newton has said that,
particularly from Luke Orishana, who gets to score. The five
game winning streak was great, and Patt Newton has said
it recently, he basically said, you know, we are We've
been playing slightly above average with a really good record,

(30:20):
And I think that's that's true because when you look
at their performances, I haven't really been overwhelmed, and I
think a lot of the Orange and Blue faithful are
still looking for that one or two games where you know,
they play for ninety minutes, they're solid defensively, they score
a few goals, and they blow a team out because
that's what's expected of this group. Now they continue to
do in a one goal fashion, and.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
So be it.

Speaker 12 (30:39):
But I think that the expectations are really high, and
I still think that their best soccer is ahead of him.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, I mean it's it's kind of the question we've
been asking for much of the season, and you know,
certainly could have asked it watching them last Saturday night,
and that's how do they generate more offense?

Speaker 12 (30:54):
Yeah, I think that Saturday was a bit of an
anomaly just because number one, you're playing on a baseball field.
Granted it's one of the best baseball fields in the
country in the home of my New York Metropolitans, but
it's tighter, it's more compact, you know, It's a little
bit difficult as far as the surface is concerned, because
you've got fake sad overwhamped at the infield and the
whole thing. But then you also were missing O being

(31:15):
a wobod over another game. Right, He's missed now four
out of the last five, having just come back from
injury against fort In Kansas City, and then he picked
up a knock before training ahead of the New York
City game, and then Pavel Bucamo. You know, you can
make the argument that he's been the most important player
for us C Cincinnati. I'm not saying the best, but
I'm saying the most important, and that hurts him against
New York City FC. And then I mentioned luk O'shano.

Speaker 13 (31:36):
He hasn't scored yet.

Speaker 12 (31:38):
And to be honest, I still think despite the fact
that Kevin Dente is towards the top of the charts
and MLS of scoring, I still think he's getting the
hang of the lead, and I still think that he's
trying to figure it out. And I still think that
Patten Newton is trying to figure out what his best
personnel is with been his formation within the three back system,
whether it's a three four two one or three, five
to two. So with all those things in mind, mo

(31:58):
I think that it's sort of been this now see
little cocktail of not being able to see the best
of FC Cincinnati yet. But again it's not a call
for concern. It's more so just how the first eleven
weeks have gone for this group.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
I think the kids would say FC Cincinnati has first
world problems.

Speaker 12 (32:13):
Yes, exactly, Yes, very much a first world problem, no question.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
I feel like at times this year, including on Saturday nine,
I know they lost the game, I think we are
seeing the best of Roman Celentano, which is saying something yeah.

Speaker 12 (32:27):
And you know, Pat talked about sort of the twenty
twenty four that he had and how it wasn't nearly
as good as the twenty twenty three, and his decision
making and positioning and all these little things that you know,
goalkeepers have to be perfect on otherwise you're going to
get killed by.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
The media and you're going to get killed in the game.

Speaker 12 (32:43):
He's been almost perfect on.

Speaker 13 (32:45):
He's kept them in games, and you think.

Speaker 12 (32:46):
About the National Game and sort of like the greatest
ninety seconds that a goalkeeper can have with a penalty
kick save and then a double save off the ensuing corner.

Speaker 13 (32:54):
He's been huge.

Speaker 12 (32:55):
And Nick Haglan, the real pride of Cincinnati, He's also
been huge, Right, I mean, I think that the back
line and getting Matt and ma Alka back, and more importantly,
Nick Haglan, you know, coming into what thirty two years
of age, back to back season ending injuries, has come
in and beaten out Hilbert and Floras for that starting
spot along the back line on the right side. And
Flora's arguably was going to have that starting spot. And

(33:17):
I think that the communication that Hagland brings along with Celentano.
I think that the defense and the holding central midfielders
for Cincinnati has sort of subtly grabbed more of the
headlines because of number one, the results that they've had
and the one goal wins that they've had, but more importantly,
because the FC Cincinnati attack hasn't been setting the world
on fire.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
I look at Austin, I see a team that doesn't
score all that much. Where do they present some challenges
for FC Cincinnati tomorrow?

Speaker 14 (33:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (33:43):
Yeah, they have a real difficult time putting the ball
in the back of the need And honestly, for Nico Esteves,
who's the head coach, and he was an assistant and
a Greg Berhalter with usmn's national team. That's really not
much of a surprise, and that's sort of why he
got stacked by FC Dallas before he headed over to Austin.
They've had those sorts of difficulties. They too, are a
team who's invested heavily in their front three ten million

(34:04):
dollars for Brandon Vazquez, six and a half million for
Osman Bukari, twelve million for Mito Rozuini. I mean, you
know another group that has uptown problems, but you know
their problems they are a lot more deep rooted than Cincinnati's.
At the moment, they posed some problems just because of
the fact that on their day they can be one
of the best defensive sides in Major League Soccer. I mean,

(34:24):
through masch Phase seven they did only conceded three goals.
Then they get their doors blown off by Vancouver, who
has been setting the world up fire and who arguably
is the best team in the region right now within
Taca caf in Canada and Mexico and the United States.
But you know, right now they're in a bad way.
They're coming off their work home loss in club victory.
They almost lost the l past the Locomotive the US

(34:44):
Open Cup. They were down two nil inside of the
first forty five minutes. They needed two goals from Brandon
Vasquez in order to get them back into the game
in the final fifteen minutes. But I would expect them
to come out angry and expect them to come out organized.
They've been giving up a lot of goals recently. But
if I'm Pat noon and I'm looking at Austin and
I'm saying, you know, they're traveling at two FC Cincinnati,
and this needs to be a win. Because let's us

(35:05):
not forget Pat Newman's first game in charge in twenty
twenty two against Austin, he got a doors blown off
five minutes. Now, that was before a lot of their
really really good pieces had arrived. There were in the
starting eleven. But I would have to imagine this is
this is going to be a game that Cincinnati wants
coming off their first loss of the season.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
All right, So the match starts at seven thirty tomorrow.
I believe on match days, the Court Street skyline opens
I believe at three o'clock. So I'm just saying, you
get a good pregame meal. You could check that box off,
be a real Cincinnati and go have a great call
tomorrow night.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Okay, listen, no.

Speaker 13 (35:39):
I love the idea.

Speaker 12 (35:40):
It was planning on getting patqul early so I could
set up shop and watch my Knicks while I'm doing
my Prepper.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
You're next guy too.

Speaker 13 (35:47):
Oh.

Speaker 12 (35:48):
I'm a huge Knicks guy, though, huge, absolutely huge. I've
been losing my mind for the past week. We are
the greatest, most clutch playoff team in the history of
the NBA, and I will not hear anything otherwise.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
All Right, So you live here, you're a Knicks fan,
you eat the skyline. We're gonna be best friends.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
We're good to go. Okay, I love it.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
I have a great call tomorrow. I appreciate the time
as always, man, Thank you so much.

Speaker 12 (36:11):
Yeh, talk about it.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Tyler Terrence has the Call Tomorrow night MLS season pass
Apple TV, along with Kindred d Saint Aubin also a
friend of the show Tomorrow night, seven thirty at the
Soccer Stadium on the West End of Cincinnati, and of
course you could hear the game as well on ESPN
fifteen thirty.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yes, the the Court.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Street Skyline is the go to for any FC Cincinnati pregame.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
So go do that. Serve beer at that location as well.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
JUSTFYI, JUSTFYI, seven away from four o'clock five one, three, seven,
four nine, fifteen thirty is our phone number. Get a
few minutes, I can take a phone call. I'll do
that here, Jim, Jim, you're on ESPN fifteen thirty. Good afternoon, Jim.

Speaker 13 (36:58):
Hi, mo, I understand you're a Nickson, right I am. Congratulations.
They're doing really well, doing great. My team left town
when I was twelve years old. I'm an old timer,
so I got to see the Royals at the Cincinnati
Gardens as a kid. We were like in the third rouw.
It was like it was like having Michael Jordan right

(37:19):
in front of you. I couldn't take your eyes off
Oscar Robertson, you know. And then one day in the
summer of seventy two, they left town and went to
Kansas City and later moved to Sacramento, where they're still
using the same logo as they had as the Royals.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
They are and they still have an Oscar Robertson banner
hanging in their arena for his jersey retirement.

Speaker 13 (37:46):
Yeah, that was. That was really traumatic when you're at
your team, your favorite team leaves town.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
You know, yeah, I can imagine.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Have you watched any of the Celtic City documentary on
Max No, Okay, so there is a ton and I'm
no Celtics fan, certainly not now, but it's a documentary
about the history of the Boston Celtics and there is
a ton of sixties footage, much of which revolves around

(38:18):
Boston playing some excellent Royals teams, including footage of games
at the Cincinnati Gardens.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
It's really really cool.

Speaker 13 (38:26):
I'm gonna have to see that.

Speaker 7 (38:27):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
Cool.

Speaker 13 (38:29):
No, when lebron came back from Miami to Cleveland, they
announced that they play exhibition games in Columbus and Cincinnati,
and I went to I went to the one over
at the Cintas Center. You know, yeah, if you know
how you know, if you know the layout of the
Cintas Center, you know that the restrooms for the expensive
seats are the same as the ones for the cheap

(38:49):
seats on that outer perimeter. So I walk in. I
walked into the men's room and there's Oscar Robertson looking
me straight in the face as he's drying his hands.

Speaker 14 (38:59):
Wow.

Speaker 13 (39:00):
This He was my hero when I was eight years old,
you know, and I try to be cool, you know,
oh hey they go he was and he was like hello,
real friendly, you know it was. It was awesome. But yeah,
that really hurt when they have this comical TV commercial

(39:24):
about these grown men in tears because their favorite player
left town. And I'm thinking, like, try having your whole
team leads.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
You know, I as as a bit of a sports
nerd and a basketball geek. So there's two things. I
kind of collect Cincinnati Royal stuff and yeah, so there's
not a lot out there, but I have a lot
of old game programs in year books. I have in
my basement this old listen to the Royals on radio ad.

(39:54):
But I have the press notes from their last ever
home game, and it's the there's a note type, there's
the press notes and then the press The media relations
guy from lack of a better term at the time
wrote this note to like everybody covering the team, and

(40:14):
it's really sad just reading it. I wasn't alive back then,
but it was you know, you were reading this note
from somebody who wasn't sure if he was going to
be going with the Royals. Deeply regretted what was happening
with the Royals was basically saying goodbye to everybody who
had covered the team. It was very sad. And then
if you ever can, if you ever want to do

(40:34):
something that's it's going to bring back a lot of memories.
During COVID, when we had a lot of free time
on our hands, I became a newspapers dot com subscriber,
where you can go back and read Cincinnati inquirers from
the eighteen hundreds, and I once like did a dive
into the Royals leaving Cincinnati and read years of articles

(40:57):
leading up to the Royals leaving Cincinnati, and it highlights
how that franchise went out of its way to alienate
itself from Cincinnati, playing home games in Cleveland, playing home
games in Rochester, playing home games in Omaha, like it
did everything it could to distance itself from Cincinnati, obviously
up to and including trading Oscar Robertson.

Speaker 13 (41:19):
It was sad, but yeah, my relationship with the NBA
was so wounded in nineteen seventy two when I was twelve,
that I didn't look at another NBA game for the
next fourteen years until the Bad Boys and Magic and
Bird drew me back into it. But now I'm enjoying
it and I'm poling for your Nicks. Good luck.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
We will welcome you to the Fall, Jim. You're more
than welcome to adopt the Nicks.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Okay, thank you sir?

Speaker 1 (41:47):
All right, well, well gladly have you. I am I
am no Celtics fan. That Celtic City doc on Max
and HBO is awesome and there's a lot of really
cool My cousin turned me on to it. Actually, my
cousin Jared turned me on to it. There's a lot
of really cool archival photos and video in the early

(42:09):
in the early episodes of the documentary, and there's a
lot of like the Celtics playing the Royals had some
unbelievably good teams in the sixties that just constantly ran
into the Boston Celtics. And so it's it's a good watch,
even if you hate the Celtics as much as I do,
and even if you despise the Celtics as much as
I do at the moment. Uh And if you ever
get your hands on some Sincinni Royal stuff and you

(42:32):
don't want it, I'll take it.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Five three seven nine I have.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
I have lost one auction in like high end auction
in my life. I h there was this Cincinnati Royals
ashtray that I found on some like website where rich
people put their stuff up after they die, and I lost.
I lost five fifteen thirty Sports gallery out there in

(43:00):
Forest Park. Free plug for them. When they get Royal stuff,
they call me love Royal stuff. Uh five point three
seven four nine fifteen thirty and eight sixty six seven
oh two three seven seven six. If the Royals were
still in existence in Cincinnati, I wouldn't be a Knicks fan. See,
you wouldn't have to hear me be obnoxious about the
Knicks blaming the Royals for leaving. Fifty three years ago,

(43:20):
four o'clock on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports.

Speaker 8 (43:23):
Station ESPN fifteen thirty.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
I had a joke about Bone Valley that I'm not
gonna make. My name's Moegar. You're listening to ESPN fifteen thirty.
By the way, Taren, why are we not doing the
show outside today?

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Is guargeus out? Say Friday in May? You can't feed that.

Speaker 13 (43:43):
I think I've told you about five hundred and twenty
five times by.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Doing the show winning. You know, today is a day
I could have done the show from my house, sat outside.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Had a cigar. Could be one of those in the
cards next week, and we do have.

Speaker 5 (43:58):
We had.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Next week's kind of an interesting week on this show.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
As a brief aside, we'll tell you about some Reds
transactions first, because you can't make the people wait for
the news they care about. So Hunter Green, as the
Reds announced yesterday, is officially on the injured list. They
announced they were going to put him on the injured list.
They officially did that as a transaction today. So Hunter

(44:22):
goes on the injured list with that right groin strain
fifteen day injured list retroactive to five eight, which we'll
see how many starts he misses.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
There is one off day on Monday.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Austin Hayes is back, which is great news because when
he's been healthy, he is hit. Will Benson is back
this and I have a saft spot in my heart
for Will Benson, but this kind of feels like put
up a shoutout time for Will Benson in his major
league career, or at least in his time as a

(44:54):
member of the Reds. Twenty six years old, going to
be Let's see, Will's gonna be twenty seven. I think
his birthday is like June. It's around Father's Day. I
know that gonna be twenty seven. Had a terrible year
last year, didn't make the club, went to Louisville, came

(45:14):
up for one game, struck out four times. Went back
to Louisville. He was putting up good numbers in Louisville.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Of all those dudes June sixteenth, yes, thank you.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Of all those dudes who came up two years ago,
Will Benson was maybe my favorite. And that's we think
of all those guys, right Anyway, Will Benson's back. Chase
Petty is back, ostensibly to take Hunter Green spot in
the rotation and maybe have a better frame of mind
for the next time he pitches. Then, when he threw

(45:46):
in that double header against the Cardinals, Blake done to Louisville.
Jacob hrdabeest to Louisville as well. Now we'll get to
all that in a second. I was going to mention
two things. One, speaking of doing the show outside, I'm
broadcasting from the UC Baseball Stadium on Tuesday as part
five to one to three day the Bearcat baseball team,
by the way, has a massive series this weekend at TCU.

(46:06):
I am looking forward to doing our show from there.
It's a six o'clock first pitch. We'll be joined by
a few different UC coaches throughout the course of the afternoon,
and our schedule Lee Show is going to be next
Wednesday night. I will not be a part of it
because I'll be on the other station for Pete Rose Day.
But Lance and Tony at Smoke Justice. So there you go.
There are your announcements as they relate to this radio station.

(46:29):
Your phone calls here in just a few minutes. Blake
Dunn got sent down. I don't know if Blake Dunn
got sent down because he couldn't get that bunt down
in the eleventh inning last night. There's kind of been
now a little bit of a revolving door on the
back end of the outfield depth chart, if you will, right, So,

(46:52):
Tyler Callahan got called up and then unfortunately got hurt,
and then so they bring up hurd Abes. Jacob Hurdabees
just doesn't really look like he projects to be a
big leaguer. Then they have another injury. Noelle Marte Reese
Hines gets called up. Last night, ree Hines hits a
home run and we were five minutes away from today

(47:13):
being all about Reese Hines, and then he contributes to
their downfall in the ninth inning because he looked like
he got a bad read on the ball hit the
right field in that two run ninth for Atlanta. Reese
Hines is still here. Blake Dunn's been with the team,
I think all year long. The bottom end of the
depth chart in the outfield, it just it feels like

(47:34):
we're gonna be doing this all year. Maybe just this
revolving door of Okay, well this guy's not helping. Hey,
this guy in Louisville's putting up decent numbers, Okay, we'll
bring him up. Well, hey, this guy's hurts. I got
to go back to Louisville and just they should have
done more with the outfield.

Speaker 6 (47:49):
Man.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
That's not revisionist history.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
I might have said that exact statement every day all
throughout February and March.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
We'll see. I'm rooting like Helford will be.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
And certainly I think we're all rooting for Austin Hayes
to stay healthy, because when he has been healthy, he
has contributed the Blake done thing. And I know I
have picked this apart pretty extensively, but we talked about
a couple of things with him last night. What was
the attempted steal of second base where I think he

(48:23):
and the Reds got screwed because Ozzie Albi's was blocking
the bag. That's obstruction that is not reviewable. So Blake
Done had a gripe. Terry Francona had a gripe. Colin
cal Gill, the first base coach, had a gripe. But
there's also why Blake was on first base, and it
was because he couldn't get a bunt down. Now, my argument,
and I tried to outline this about an hour ago,

(48:45):
my argument against the bunt in the eleventh inning last
night is that when you're the road team, I think
you have to play for more than one run because
the other team is going to start with the guy
on second base and they're gonna have a very good
chance to score. I think the way you manage it,
and I've heard people in the sport talk about this.
I don't know specifically what Terry Francona's philosophy is. I

(49:10):
believe and it's just me, you should always assume the
other team, the home team, is going to score at
least one.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Hopefully they don't. You're certainly not going to allow them
to score.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
But the idea is, I think to operate on offense
like you need two to win, because the other team's
going to score one. They're going to start their half
of the inning with a guy on second base and
nobody out. It's hard. So in that situation, I don't
want to play for one run. When you bunt, you're

(49:40):
playing for one run. One of the arguments in favor
of the bunt that I've heard, though, is well, it's
Blake Done, and I understand it right. Blake Done is
not a good major league killer, and maybe one day
he turns into one, but he's not a good major

(50:01):
league hitter. And his tiny amount of big league played appearances,
he's batting one fifty one with an ops A five
fifty four. He has a grand total of five extra
base hits in over one hundred played appearances. So he's
probably not gonna hit the ball out of the ballpark.
It's probably not gonna hit the ball into the gap,

(50:22):
and so you have to let him bunt. If you
have a player who you think is such a bad
hitter that you now have to employ bad strategy. The
guy should not be on your team. That sounds harsh,

(50:42):
but if you think so little of him as a
hitter that you have no choice but to employ bad strategy.
And again, this isn't just me being anti bunt. It's situationally,
in the eleventh inning, with a guy on second base,
you gotta play for the beginning, you gotta play for two,
you gotta play for three. But if the only reason
you're doing it, and i've heard folks articulate this, well

(51:04):
you can't have him swing. Why well, it's blake done
like they they frame it like you would frame a picture,
like a pictures would bunt just because you know what,
just maybe he'll get it down. Get the guy over
to second base, avoid the double play. He's going to
strike out if he swings, like you know, back when
pitchers would hit as a little bit more in favor

(51:25):
of the bunt, because all right, fine, if you know
the guy's not going to get a hit, then go
ahead and have him laid down a bunch. If you're
talking about an outfielder in those terms, the guy shouldn't
be on your team, and you should have done more
to build your depth in the outfield. It's it's that simple.

(51:46):
Blake Blake Dun's not twenty one, twenty two years old.
I mean, guys, Blake Dun's twenty seven. And you can
correct me if I'm wrong. I believe he has been
with the big club all year long. I don't think
he's one of these guys that has ridden that I
seventy one. He's been a big part of your team.
He's played in thirty games for you, You've played in
thirty nine. He's played in more than seventy five percent

(52:08):
of your games. If you have a guy who in
the eleventh inning you have no choice but to ask
to bunt, you've done a poor job with that roster spot.
Guys shouldn't be on the team. So now he's not
on the team right now. And again I don't know
if they said, dude, we got a guy who can't
lay down a bunt, We got a guy who really

(52:28):
can't hit. You know, you can tell me all you
want about his sprint speed, Well, he never gets on base.
Like I hear all the time about he's actually gonna
faster sprint speed than Ellie deler Cruz, Like, man, that's
really neat offensively, I can't use that. I mean, for
all of his sprint speed accomplishments, he's now one for one,

(52:48):
I'm sorry, one for two trying to steal this year,
and two for three trying to steal over his big
league career. Like so, it was a strategic issue last night.
I don't think you bunt there. It was an execution
issue last night, dude, don't bun it toward first at
the first baseman's charging in. But it was also a

(53:09):
roster construction issue last night. You've got a guy that
you're admitting, Yeah, we can't ask him to swing get
a guy on second base. I mean, you would think
it's you know, I mean, it's supposed to be theoretically
at least easier to hit with a guy in scoring position.
Picture's got to be a little bit more careful. So
if your argument for the bunt ish, what else you're

(53:33):
gonna do. You can't ask him to hit Wait a minute,
you can't ask him to hit the ball to the
right side and maybe one gets through. I mean, and
by the way, if you love his sprint speed, well
how about see if he can get a hit for you,
at least move the runner to third. Ideally drive in

(53:54):
the runner and then he could try to steal a
bag and if he gets a hit, you could be
within a pitcher to have a lead and a guy
on second base and still nobody out. If that's a
non starter for you and you have to have him bunt,
guys shouldn't be on the club man, So that speaks
to roster construction. Right now, Blake Dunn is not in
the club because they have sent him to Louisville, maybe

(54:15):
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(54:36):
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Bengals today held their one day rookie mini camp.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Now Shamar Stuart and Demetrious Night neither participated today, both
were around, both were at the stadium, just neither went
through practice. Both have neither have yet to sign their contract.
Some questions about the whole one day thing, one day
mini camp, Zach Taylor says he's just ready to have
these guys up and running when the rest of the

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squad joins them on Monday.

Speaker 11 (56:27):
I'm ready for them to be full speed on Monday,
you know. And so again there's a lot of nervous
energy excitement when they get out here on Friday. We
spend time today meeting with them and going through the
installs and making sure.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
The above the next up's good.

Speaker 11 (56:37):
Get them on the field, briefly them, let them show
with some of the athletic stuff, learn some of the
stuff in a walk through setting, and then Monday, fully
integrate them with the rest.

Speaker 13 (56:46):
Of the players.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Zach Taylor, So, the big story of the week or
one of the big story, and I'm not even sure
it was a big It was a big story in May,
and it wouldn't have been a story had Joe Burrow
not missed practice on the one day the media was
allowed to watch practice.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
And let's use the word practice here very loosely.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
But Joe attended to met gala on Monday, right, and
then didn't practice on Tuesday. And here's Zach Taylor on
that incredible topic.

Speaker 15 (57:17):
It's good.

Speaker 11 (57:18):
You know, his leadership is his talent, his presence is
all beneficial. And again, we've got guys that things will
come up throughout the off season program, you know, obligations
like that, family obligations, charity obligations, and so guys will
be in and out. But overall we've had tremendous turnout.
I'm excited that they want to get it here and

(57:38):
get the work on the field. And having Joe out
their thrown balls last couple of days, it's been great
for our guys.

Speaker 6 (57:42):
Is safe to say his I had his one one
hundred and one thousand percent to the organization.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
He never gets destroyed. You say that's pretty safe.

Speaker 11 (57:51):
Yeah, I don't have any questions on just commended to us.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Absolutely, Nor should he look, there's like two types of employees.
You know, there are employees that you have to like
monitor watch, you know, you give them a certain set
time for lunch and they better not go over, need
to punch in at a certain time, leave at a

(58:15):
certain time. You're constantly looking over their shoulder and checking
their work. And then there are employees you don't care
when they come, you don't care when they go. You
know they're going to get their work done. That's the
kind of employee Joe Burrow is. Angles don't have many
of those guys, you know, it's been my experience. There's

(58:35):
two types. There's two types of employees. Or are the
folks that you know got to constantly be looking over
your shoulder. Let's say you get an hour for lunch,
not an hour and a half. And then there's employees
where it's like, dude, take all the time you need
as long as you're getting your stuff done, like we
trust you. That's Joe Burrow Ian You're on ESPN fifteen thirty,
Good afternoon, Ian he in one more time he had

(59:06):
nowhere to be found five one, three, seven, four nine,
fifteen thirty. That leaves us, Mike, Mike go, what's up?

Speaker 5 (59:14):
Man? You're like, you know, they don't even need betavidas
they gonna get rid of him.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
They got you couldn't take the pay cut Mike.

Speaker 16 (59:23):
Yeah, okay, big boy, Well am I to hang on?

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 5 (59:31):
Uh? No, I don't think on this one. I don't
think you're really wrong. No, I just take doubt and
Terry because he just knows so much more than me.
But you're right, it is a roster issue. There's no
question which brings me to wait.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Wait, wait a minute, wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
If if we're not second guessing coaches and managers jobs
like this go away, isn't that kind of the fun
of being a sports fan?

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Yeah? Yeah, you? I mean, am I?

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
I know you're joking, But like Terry Francona has an
unbelievable managerial resume.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Does that that make him immune to any sort of
second guessing?

Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
No, it doesn't make him even smarter than maybe a
lot of guys you've never managed but have been watching
day ball for a long time, or maybe more interested
than he is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Quite frankly, So, I mean, like, so, what, what's what's
the harm in offering a counter to the strategy that
was employed last night?

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
Oh? I liked it. I got a kick out of him.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
You see you seem mildly offended.

Speaker 5 (01:00:35):
No, no, no, no, Hey, there is a big series folks.
Starting this weekend. Cubs and the Mets can affect the
Reds dramatically, so check that out and m'l be extra
innings all three games. I love that caller, Jim you
had talking about the Royals. My dad bought me a
couple of jerseys when he would take me down. That

(01:00:56):
was so much fun that arena. There'd be so much
cigar smoking there you could cut it with a knife. Brother,
it was awesome. My dad had the big eyebowl in there.
He was pumping on Cincinnati firefighter. But starting fires is crazy.
But yeah, I got a jumping Johnny Green. My dad
bought me and a Jack Twineman. Really yeah, and they'd

(01:01:19):
been just in a you know, folded neatly folded up
and Chester drawers and now for I don't know, fifty years. Wow,
And I'm not gonna I don't know what. Nobody in
my family cares about him, so we'll have to talk
about that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Well, you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
What's what's interesting is, you know, I don't want I'm
I'm an I'm an NBA fan. You're an NBA fan,
And sometimes the topic will come up, like wouldn't it
be cool if the NBA returned to Cincinnati. It my
take has always been with any sport with the right ownership,
it could work.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
You will have some who say, well, the Royals didn't work.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
The Royals didn't work because when the team was purchased
by Max and Jeremy Jacobs in nineteen sixty six, they
sabotaged the team.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
They sabotaged the team.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
They started to play games in Cleveland, they started to
play games in Columbus, They would play games in Memphis, Syracuse,
Kansas City. They trade away Jerry Lucas, they ultimately trade
away Oscar Robertson. It's, you know, not a big shock
that attendants waned, and so it's not that the city
wouldn't support the NBA. And the Royals had some unbelievably
good teams in the sixties. They had allful ownership that

(01:02:25):
was almost hell bent on sabotaging its relationship with Cincinnati.

Speaker 5 (01:02:30):
Yeah, see, I was pro. I was too little to
comprehend that at the time, but I did know. My
dad had a deep seated hatred for Bob Cusey. First
of all, he had been a South Celtic, and then
my dad felt that he came and he was part
of the demises of the Reds leaving Cincinnati. I don't
know if that was correct enough. That was my dad's feeling.
But God, they had some great pleano they you know,

(01:02:52):
they had Wayne Embry. They had a little guard that
started with Oscar named Adrian Smith. They called him Odie Smith.
He was from the UK. They had Tonnie Durkin who
was a good backup center. They had Tommy Hawkins who
went on to have a good career with the Lakers.
But that was the And they had Nate to Skate Archibald.
But right they got him and a year later or two,

(01:03:12):
that's when they left. He was a good little left
hander man. He was fast. You remember seeing clips of him,
Nate the Skate.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Archibald, without question, yes, without question, unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
But that's where my deep seated hatred of Boston comes from.
Was the a frustration not being able to get by him,
so then naturally gravitated to the Lakers from that debacle.
Home dog strategies cruising along as usual, a little less
this year maybe than last last I checked, but it

(01:03:42):
will catch up. Okay, Houston, this kid pitching the night,
This Hunter Brown, He's no joke. Well five and one
with a one point six to seven.

Speaker 14 (01:03:53):
Not bad.

Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
And then I guess Lance McCullers. In fact, I don't
know if it's his first start tomorrow it's.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I think it's his second. I think it's his second appearance.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
I believe since twenty twenty two, like he has missed
that much time.

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
Yeah, that's a lot, that's a ton. But he when
he was good, remember he was, he was pretty good.
The guy on Sunday, I don't know anything about Renel
Brown or Renel something, so we should win that. I
got one thing for you on on the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Yes quickly.

Speaker 5 (01:04:24):
I was reading Murray Yogi Beart quotes today. They are priceless.
They talked about this this morning on ESPN and I
hadn't thought of it. But it's a good point. All
these teams have a dog, right but Boston has no dog.
They don't have one real dog on that team, do they.
I don't see one, and Risk Warford would be one,

(01:04:45):
but not really.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
I think Jalen Brown is. I just don't think he's
their best player.

Speaker 5 (01:04:51):
No, but you know what I'm saying, A rough house
or a dog like butler. And each team's got one
or two of them dramon on this team Boston doesn't have.
I have a kind of that type of guy that
likes to mix it up and get the team motivated
with his temper, sort of or playing a little bit
dirty type thing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Well, I mean, I think Jalen Brown is embodied some
of that. I certainly don't think he plays dirty. But
he's not their best player. You know, Jason Tatum is
an awesome player, unbelievable player. But I say this not
because their team is trailing two oh to the Knicks.
I when I watch them, I just he's more of
a quiet guy. He's more doesn't feel like he's the

(01:05:32):
sort of guy that a teammates feet off of. Now, Mike,
we're still talking about the reigning NBA champion. We're talking
about the team that won it all last year, and
a team that was a finalist two years prior to that,
and a team that many still believe. I mean, look,
they're even money to win this series against the Knicks,
and if they do, many will still pick them to
win the NBA title. And so it's still a very

(01:05:55):
talented roster, it's still a very dangerous roster. They're shooting
way too many threes, which could say that about a
lot of teams. But yeah, man, I mean is in
terms of personality as Jason Tatum and Alpha the way
I don't know, let's say Jalen Brunson is the way
Jimmy Butler is, the way Anthony Edwards is. It doesn't
feel like it. I will acknowledge that. Mike, I hope

(01:06:16):
you feel okay, have a great weekend. Man, Okay, you too,
Bo all right, we'll chat with one of the experts
from Orthos Sincy, doctor Trevor Wilkes on Hunter Green, Tyler Callahan,
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the injured list with that right groinstrain. Will Benson is
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That's Ortho ci NCWA dot com. All right, let's start
with Hunter Green Grade one groin strain. The worst site
ever for a Reds fan is watching him walk off
the mound with the trainer, which was the case on
Wednesday night. It does feel though, doctor like grade one
groin strain means that he and the Reds and we

(01:09:20):
as fans have dodged the proverbial bullet.

Speaker 15 (01:09:24):
Yeah, great point. I know all of us were sorry
to see that, but yeah, you make it. Probably is
the best case scenario. So we grade muscle strains on
a one to three scale, so obviously one is the best,
three is the worst. Essentially, you're looking at at injuries
occurring on a spectrum of injury, so you're looking at,
you know, the least third of that spectrum, so the

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more minor of an injury. And usually these injuries occur
where the muscle kind of turns into a tendon to
attached to bones. So that's that's why it's kind of
up in your groin and it just takes a little
bit of ten it's not an area with the great
blood supply and takes a little bit of time to heal.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
So he's on the ten day injured list. I'm guessing
here he's gonna miss two starts. Obviously, that's the hope.
Is that realistic?

Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
Yeah, that is.

Speaker 15 (01:10:11):
I think that's that's maybe best case scenario, MO, but
that is realistic. So, yes, seven to ten days is
not unreasonable. He's going to be, you know, working really
hard in the training room on his rehab, and the
big thing is going to be if he can get
the kind of explosive push off to pitch and as
long as that doesn't aggravate him, you know, the in

(01:10:33):
the pitching motion, the power really comes from the legs,
and and you really want to make sure that he
gets that power back because we actually have some interesting,
you know, research and data that shows that if pitchers
shorten their stride and don't produce as much power with
their legs, they're at higher risk for shoulder and elbow injuries.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
And you don't want to see.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
That, No, not not at all. The week started for
the Reds in Atlanta in the game where we all
saw what happened to Tyler Callahan, who's a young guy
that just got to the big leagues and he has
dealt with a lot of injuries during his baseball journey.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Running into a wall.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
Down the left field line, he breaks the radius and
alna in his arm. Now I guess for me, I
just hear four arm. But let's be a little bit
more clinical. What are the radius and ulna?

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:11:18):
Sure, So if everybody just touches your own form, you
have two bones in your form. The one on the
thumb side is called the radius. The one on your
pinky side is called your ulna. The reason you have
two bones in your form whereas you have one in
your upper arm is that lets you turn your hand
palm up and down, So it lets you have that
extra motion where it's not just up and down, you

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go palm up and down.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
So that's the difference in the bones.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
So they did surgery the very next day.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
Explain for me why it's so crucial for Tyler to
have had the surgery almost immediately.

Speaker 15 (01:11:50):
Yeah, so, well, obviously, the sooner you get to surgery,
oftentimes the easier it is to like to physiologically put
the parts back together. Think about like a puzzle piece.
It's fresher, it's easier to find where things go. And
then the second big thing is that you shorten the
recovery time. We get you into the healing process and
rehabbing fast there in the in the wrist or the

(01:12:13):
end of your form. The bones really have to be perfect.
We don't tolerate a lot of things being out of place.
So it seems like a pretty clear cut to have
been the right choice for him.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
So he's gonna miss six to eight weeks, which is
basically two months he's had surgery. Number one, is that
a realistic timeline? And number two, if there are no setbacks,
what do the next six to eight weeks look like
for him?

Speaker 15 (01:12:40):
Yeah, so I think it's potentially. I thought eight weeks
could be realistic. I think mo that that is pretty fast.
Usually we like to say that the bones themselves, that's
going to take at least six weeks to heal. But
then you've got to be working on all the different
you know, grip strengthening and mobility of your wrist and form,
which would be a check challenge for him. But you know,

(01:13:02):
he's got a great PT team and I'm sure he's
working hard for that. So you just worry that during
that time that he's getting out of condition for some
of his other parts. Uh So, making sure he's working
his entire his hips and his legs and his cores.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
We'll be working on all of that during the rehab.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
Process doctor Trevor wilkeson Orthos since he is with us,
all right, now we have to talk about Noel ve Marte,
who is dealing with the left oblique strain. He is
on the injured list, was scratched from the lineup on
Wednesday and something that I guess he started to feel
this when he was in Louisville and tried to play
through it and then felt a little bit of a
grab or making a throw earlier this week in Atlanta.

(01:13:41):
Can you explain for me the oblique strained scale? Yeah, yes,
So what your oblique muscles? So this is part of
your core muscle complex.

Speaker 15 (01:13:50):
So everybody knows about like your your six pack, you know,
like like your six pack mo for the for the
winner here, but these are these are the ones that
go kind of transver they go across, and these are
the muscles that are gonna help you twist. So if
you can think about as you're throwing a baseball or
swing in to hit, these are these muscles in your

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core that are helping you twist and generate that rotational
power that you need for explosive throwing and hitting. And
so it makes sense, right if you're a right handed
batter or thrower, you're gonna strain your left obliques if
you just think about that motion on yourself, and then
the strain scale is going to be really analogous to

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what we talked about with Hunter Green, a one to
three scale based on the grade of the injury.

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
We typically do that with MRIs. So that's kind of
the background for Nelvie.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Does is there a likelihood that the injury kind of
got worse because he didn't tell anyone and tried to
play throw it?

Speaker 4 (01:14:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:14:50):
Yeah, I mean the answers, yes, Yes, These muscle strains
are Yeah, they're tough, right because and it's it's difficult
because it can be challenging as an athlete to know
when there's something that you can ignore and work through
and when there's something you really got to pay attention to.
But yeah, in an explosive athlete, these muscle strains are
really problematic. But it's tough when you put yourself in

(01:15:12):
an athlete like that. Haven't had some experience working with
minor league baseball players when they get these windows of opportunity,
they really are a career making windows, and they're willing
to work through some things to try to make the
best of that, so it probably it was something he
crossed his fingers and it just didn't work out for him.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Why when it comes to oblique injuries is it sometimes
hard to get a gauge for what the timeline is.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
Going to be.

Speaker 15 (01:15:37):
I think it's because of kind of what I said.
They're so dependent on those obliques to generate their rotational power,
and you know, they're hard to rest. There's almost nothing
you're doing during the day where you're not engaging in
those core muscles and then letting it. It's one of
those injuries no where no one wants to wait long

(01:15:58):
enough to let it heal well enough, and they continually
reaggravate it. So you see tons of these guys that
they think they're better and then they reaggravate it, and
then they think they're better and they reaggravate it, and
it becomes a frustrating injury that really kind of hampers
your season.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
All right, one more, actually, two more.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
I want to ask you about Austin Hayes, who is
hopefully set to come back this weekend. Has been on
the NGE list twice with a left calf issue and
then recently here with a hamstring problem, and he has
had a lot of lower body injuries. Why are some
athletes maybe more susceptible to calf and hamstring injuries than others.

Speaker 4 (01:16:34):
Yeah, that's a good question.

Speaker 15 (01:16:36):
I'm obviously I think the answers are numerous and it's
hard to pinpoint one thing. You know, I think, you know,
genetically there we definitely see some athletes that just they're
more susceptible at their muscle tendonjunctions, and you see the
same athletes that have had a calf, a hammy, a groin,
et cetera. Now, I do think there are some things
that certain athletes can work on. Obviously, joint flexibility is

(01:16:58):
a big one. If you don't have the range of
movement and your your hip or your ankle, you'd be
more prone to some of these injuries to Austin's had.
And then there's the part about you know what preventative work.
We do have some good research that working in the
gym on what we call ecentric strengthening exercises. So it's
like the negative phase of lifting, lower lowering something that

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those can be preventative. So you know the combination of
have you been doing your joint mobility your preventative exercises,
but some people are just susceptible.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
One more and I don't think we've ever had one
of these conversations where we've talked about five different athletes.
Jam Or Candelario is on the inter list with a
lumbar spine strain. So the initial diagnosis we heard the
rather non clinical, you know, it's a back injury. Well,
this is a little bit more detailed. What is a
lumbar spine string.

Speaker 15 (01:17:49):
And this almost all of us can relate to low
back pain and how incapacitating and frustrating it is.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
And it's a little bit nebulous, mo.

Speaker 15 (01:18:01):
And that when we say that the pain that that
that Candelera could be experiencing could be coming from the
discs in his back, It could be coming from the
small joints to set joints that stabilize your back. And
it can also be coming from the muscles that join
the spinal column back together. So it's hard to know
for sure. I heard he was considering getting an injection.

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Have you heard that moment?

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
I have, Yeah, I've heard that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
I know they've been talking about the epidural and then
further injections.

Speaker 15 (01:18:32):
Yeah, so that would suggest to me that that that
it was probably a more structural issue with his with
the discs in his back, because that epidural injection. What
that does is it goes into the fluid around your
spine to decrease the inflammation and pain generation there, so
it doesn't irritate the nerves. Sometimes it can help actually

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a disc settle down and not be so inflamed. And
so yeah, hiss, it's going to be frustrating again, kind
of like the oblique. You can imagine there's almost nothing
you do where you don't need that range of movement
instability in your lumbar spine. So I think it'll be
a hard rehab course for.

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
Him from that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
Yeah, stinks for him.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Wasn't off to a good start to begin with a
lot of injuries unfortunately. But I always appreciate it when
you come on and shed some light on them, Doctor
Trevor Wilkes, Ortho Sincy, Thanks.

Speaker 4 (01:19:24):
So much, thanks for having me appreciate you got it.

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week because it's true. At Ortho Sincy they're awesome because
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cheaper than going to an er. Whenever you have an
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beer for the superior time of year. I love this
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for the better. Right, I'm sure we're not done getting
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in on the least interesting story in sports, but I
actually do have a question about the least interesting story
in sports that's coming up here in just a little bit.
The Reds wind up their series, or finished up their

(01:21:53):
series last night against the Atlanta Braves. It was the
end of a four game series. It felt like a
twenty four game series. It's hard in a four game
series in which you do not get swept. It's hard
to have as bad of a stay in one city
as the Reds had in Atlanta. Players sent to the
injured list outnumbered wins. The one game they won was

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headlined by their best pitcher getting hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
A miserable four.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Days in Atlanta. Hopefully a better outcome in Houston. Starting tonight,
the Reds have made some moves. To no one's surprise,
Hunter Green goes on the injured list, the fifteen day
injured list. Austin Hayes is back, which is great. You
heard me about twenty five minutes ago talking with doctor
Trevor Wilkes from ORTHOSINCI about Austin Hayes. The reality is,

(01:22:41):
dude has a long list of leg injuries, but Austin
Hayes is back. Will Benson is back, Chase Petty is back,
Blake done his out, Jacob Hurdebes is out. Last night
of the three in Atlanta was the most difficult loss.
He had a two run lead in the ninth inning.
You know, on Tuesday they had a one run lead

(01:23:02):
of the ninth inning, two run lead of the ninth inning,
they had an opportunity to take the lead in the seventh.
McClain and Dela Cruz at the plate, guys, you wan
up both struck out. You scored in the ninth Reese
Hines with a big blow. We should spend more time
talking today about Reese Hines, but we're not because his
homer ends up being a footnote.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
In part.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
At least, I think he could have made a play
in that ball in the ninth inning. In the bottom
of the ninth inning, and right field last night had a.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Bad read on it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
The Reds kind of broke down defensively, so atlanticize the game.
The Reds can't score in the tenth, they can't score
in the eleventh. They got a really good bottom of
the tenth inning from Luis May the Reds did last night. Unfortunately,
they end up losing in the eleventh inning. They don't
get a bunt down. I guess Blake Dunn got the

(01:23:52):
bunt down. He just butted it right at a guy
charging toward him. They get an obstruction call or non
call that goes against him. And after the game, Terry
Francona said, well, we competed like crazy, which I love.
My take on that is simply this, And I understand
a manager minutes after his team loses another tough one,

(01:24:13):
there's only so many things he's gonna say. As good
of a storyteller and speaker as Terry Francona is, as
affable as he often is, is he gonna say anything
that's gonna make anybody feel any better. But at the
same time, man, last night, I didn't care how hard
they competed. I cared more about how poorly they executed.

(01:24:38):
Level of competition, how hard you play, how hard you compete,
how much you care, and those things are built in.
I assume your team's gonna play hard. I've watched in
my lifetime, and you have two a lot of bad
Reds teams. The team three years ago was atrocious. They
lost one hundred games. They were out of it by
this time three years ago. I played hard. It just

(01:25:01):
weren't very good. They didn't execute. There were all sorts
of issues with last night's game, chiefly execution, executing the
right pitch, not walking the lead off guy in the
top of the night I'm sorry, in the bottom of
the ninth inning, same thing as Tuesday night. Walking the
lead off guy in the bottom of the ninth inning,
not catching a fly ball, not making the correct throw,

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not getting the bunt down, bunting the guy to guy
that's charging at you, not being able to get runners
in from third base with less than two outs, execution issues.
I want one day for the talk to not be
about how hard they played and for instead to be
how well they executed. Until then maybe you disagree. I

(01:25:44):
think it's hard to take the Red seriously. I think
it's hard to take this baseball team seriously. If hey,
we competed is a thing instead of hey, how about
how we executed? How about the play we made in
the field? Matt McClain the other night, not executing allowing

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Stuart Fairchild to score in the bottom of the ninth
inning in the game the Reds lost. I don't agree
with the bunch strategy, but if you're going to do it,
at least successfully execute it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
They did not.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
Effort is a non starter for me. No medals for trying.
This is professional sports. Everybody is supposed to be competing. Yes,
they play hard. I don't care. Execution was an issue
last night. Strategy was an issue last night. I broke
this down in perhaps excruciating detail earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
In the show, and I don't know that we need
to do it to the exact same degree.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
First of all, Terry Francone is not immune to second guessing,
like what makes and I know this is not the
first time I've mentioned this on this show this year.
What makes being a fan fun is playing along with
the coach, second guessing, second guessing, sometimes in real time.
It's what makes it fun. So this idea that well,
whatever Terry Francona decides is Oh, it's okay. I think

(01:27:06):
it's kind of fun to play manager, Like we do
it with the draft, right we all pretend we're a
general manager, right, Yeah, we all try to put ourselves
in Duke Tobin shoes and think about players you would pick,
what your board would look like, who you would trade
down to get teams you would reach out to to
try to work it out of trade with. Like, it's fun,
it's fun to do it with the manager. I think

(01:27:27):
Terry Francona left himself up to second guessing last night.
This is not me being anti bunt, although as a
general rule I don't love it as a strategy. I
think there are exceptions, and look, man, sometimes you get
what you want out of the bunt and ultimately you
get the right result. Brian Snicker in the ninth inning
bunted with a guy on first and third move the
guy up to second, scored the runner from third. Esthetically

(01:27:48):
pleasing play, it worked. Sometimes bad strategy can work, Sometimes
bad decisions can work. This isn't, though, so much about
being anti bunt as much as it is kind of Situationally,
I think the odds are in favor of the team
in the bottom of the innings scoring when they start
with a guy on second base. I assume an extra

(01:28:10):
innings both teams are gonna score. Doesn't always work out
that way. It's been remarkable for the Reds. They've played
in four extra innings games, five extra innings, four tenth innings,
and an eleventh inning, and they haven't scored yet. I
just think in that situation with done last night, and
this is not the only reason they lost, you might
argue it's not the biggest reason they lost. I think

(01:28:33):
you have to play for a big inning there. Atlanta's
gonna come to the plate in the bottom of the
eleventh with a guy on second base and nobody out,
pretty good chance he's gonna score. You gotta play for
the big inning, and so I'm not playing little ball.
I'm not playing for one run. So execution was an
issue last night. Strategy was an issue last night. I

(01:28:54):
thought Terry Franconi used the wrong strategy. Reasonable minds will disagree.
Construction was an issue last night. Buddy of mine sent
me a text and goes, if you have two closers,
is it like having two quarterbacks, meaning you have none
in either case?

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Maybe?

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
But the Blake Done thing, and we're picking on a
guy who got sent to Louisville today. If the argument
for Blake done bunting is you have to have them
bunt because he's not a good hitter, then he shouldn't
be on the team. So last night, execution a problem.
Strategy maybe not a problem, but at least deserving of

(01:29:31):
second guessing. Roster construction a problem. We'll see if it's
better with Will Benson up a couple of other things.
So the Pirates yesterday, right in the middle of the
Pope being elected, the Pirates fired their manager, Derek Shelton.
The Pittsburgh Pirates are atrocious. They've had a terrible year.

(01:29:52):
They've had fans falling out of stands. Fortunately, that guy
is okay. They've had employees getting into fight fights with
stands in the concourse that's out there on social med
They've thrown away bricks that people bought with their name
on them, like you name it. They've had a problem
in Pittsburgh. Plus they have Paul Skeens and like nobody else,
they have a terrible offensive team. They have an awful owner,
a total cheapskate. And the Pirates are twelve and twenty six.

(01:30:17):
They have the worst, second worst record in the National League.
In fact, they have the third worst record in baseball.
So they fired Derek Shelton. So today is their first
game since the firing. And Paul Skeens is he is
obviously the franchise. He is there, hunter green and immensely
fun to watch. Right, So he was asked about Derek

(01:30:40):
Shelton being fired, and you know, he said something to
the degree that, you know, look, we don't want this
to be a lost season. We've got to get to work.
It is salvageable. If it's not, it's a lost season.
And I'm paraphrasing Paul Skeens there. But Paul Skeens, in

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his second season is being asked about a disastrous season
with the manager being fired. He's already the team spokesperson.
He's already wondering is this season going to be lost?
If I was a Pirates fan, I would be thinking, great,
what's Paul Skans thinking about all this? What's he thinking
about the franchise is inability to build around me, to

(01:31:24):
take advantage of me, to maybe put us in a
position to have a totally wasted season while I'm here.
Don't do with Hunter Green and Ellie de la Cruz
and others what the Pirates are doing with Paul Skeens.
Don't make those players think and wonder, WTF what are

(01:31:45):
we doing? Because I would be willing to bet that's
happening in Pittsburgh with their franchise. One more thing here quickly,
on Ellie. I talked about this a little bit with
Tony and Austin on since he three to sixty, he
had some opportunities in this series in Atlanta to come
up with big hits, and he didn't. Didn't on Tuesday,
didn't last night. I love watching Ellie Delacruz. I certainly

(01:32:11):
do believe Ellie Delacruz has years of really good baseball in.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
Front of him.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
I feel though, like this team was built around something
that doesn't seem right now at least likely to happen,
and that's Ellie Dela Cruz being a superstar.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
We wanted to happen so much.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
I think we try to speak into existence him making
this massive leap from really good player to superstar.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
I feel like that's what this team is built around.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
I feel like to a degree, what they did offensively
is based on, Hey, Matt McLain's gonna come back and
be awesome, and Ellie Dela Cruz is going to be
on the team and he's going to be even better.
So far, that hasn't worked out. Eighteen minutes after five o'clock.
Let's take a phone call or two. Is that the
Ian we tried to go to before? Ian, You're on

(01:33:05):
ESPN fifteen thirty, Take two.

Speaker 13 (01:33:08):
Hey can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
I can hear you?

Speaker 4 (01:33:10):
Ian?

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:33:13):
Ah?

Speaker 16 (01:33:13):
Sorry, that's never happened to me before.

Speaker 7 (01:33:15):
Man, Sorry about that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
That's what things happened.

Speaker 7 (01:33:19):
Anyways. A couple of quick questions. The center that they
got from the Bengals got from I guess this high estate?
Does that look like a promising prospect?

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
You in your opinion as an undrafted free agent.

Speaker 13 (01:33:40):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 16 (01:33:40):
I mean I just didn't know what to expect.

Speaker 7 (01:33:42):
Really, they trying to hype him up on social media,
and I don't really.

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
You're talking about You're talking about Seth McLaughlin. Yeah, well,
I don't think especially when you only have six draft picks.
I I think there's an added emphasis on your on
your draft class, right, and so I think you know,

(01:34:08):
if you're an undrafted free agent and you go to
a team where there aren't as many draftees, you have
maybe a little bit of a chance. I think with
Seth McLaughlin, the issue is he had an achilles problem.
Right if you were following Ohio State and the college
football playoff, Uh, he tore his achilles. He has been
going through rehab. He's not really doing any football stuff.

(01:34:32):
And so the Bengals did sign him and signed him
like immediately. I think he was one of their first
undrafted free agents they signed. I think the first question
is how healthy is he going to be and how
capable is he going to be to do all the
stuff that's needed if he wants to make the team.

Speaker 13 (01:34:50):
Yeah, nah, I get that.

Speaker 7 (01:34:53):
My other thing is not really a question.

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
And by the way, by the way quickly, you know,
I will mention this so we you hear us. On
our show we referenced the Beast Dan Brugler's draft guide.
He had him listed as the third best center. So
oh wow, yeah, now that doesn't mean, you know, he
should have should have been taken or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
And again he was coming off a significant injury.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
But you know, there are a lot of undrafted free
agents that if you look at their positional rankings in
a draft guide, you'll see, you know, they're way down there, like,
for instance, Jamoy Mays that you see as a wide receiver,
you're not going to find him listed as the third
best receiver. Uh. This kid McLaughlin from Ohio State Dane,
it's only one man's opinion did list him as the
third best center, and so maybe he's got a chance,

(01:35:36):
but he is coming off a significant injury.

Speaker 16 (01:35:40):
Oh okay, well, I guess could be exciting. So know, yeah,
My other kind of question comment was did you ever
play at.

Speaker 7 (01:35:51):
The driving range at the old range at the Evendale
that had the giant like golf.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
Ball with the whole you can like hit into editors? Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:36:03):
Yeah, well, uh, yeah, man, I get in there left.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
I'm sorry you broke up on me, would you say? Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:36:18):
Change and yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
I'd missed like fifteen seconds worth of what you just said.

Speaker 7 (01:36:26):
Oh that's all right. Uh well they changed over to
they're called the Acres now, yes, and uh yeah, man.
There they have like this like lit up like path or.

Speaker 16 (01:36:41):
Friendly event tomorrow from like eight to ten and uh.

Speaker 7 (01:36:46):
My buddy's band, Harold will be there. But uh, you
know it's gonna be a great time. I just like
to tie into the sports, you know what I mean,
in the history of the place.

Speaker 4 (01:36:55):
So I just saw a.

Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
Comment on that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
So you wanted to give you wanted to give as
a free plug.

Speaker 7 (01:37:02):
Yeah, but you know I always comment on sports also.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
So not just should our sales departments send the bill
to you or Acres for the commercial?

Speaker 13 (01:37:14):
You know what, I'll take the hit.

Speaker 16 (01:37:15):
I probably can't afford it.

Speaker 7 (01:37:18):
I probably can't afford that, but you know I love
those guys.

Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
That's I have not been in maybe a year, but
I need to check it out because it's cool place.

Speaker 7 (01:37:27):
Yeah man, the artists did a bunch of stuff like
you know, through the pathways and whatnot. They're having like
a golf you know, a golf costume thing to the best.

Speaker 4 (01:37:39):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
Well, you know what you could do, and you could.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
You could tell your friends and acres if they want
regular airtime, that we could. We could put them in
touch with one of our account executives and we can
make that happen.

Speaker 13 (01:37:51):
Hey, you know it's it's.

Speaker 7 (01:37:52):
Something I would have entertained, you know, for artist's sake
and for their sake.

Speaker 5 (01:37:58):
A good idea.

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
All right, well, I'll mention it up there. Told those
folks to reach out and we would be happy to
help them.

Speaker 16 (01:38:03):
Okay, definitely.

Speaker 13 (01:38:06):
All right, man, have a good weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
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Speaker 2 (01:38:51):
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Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
We have FC Cincinnati tomorrow, the Orange and Blue hosting
Austin seven thirties. When the game starts pregame coverage at
seven pm. By the way, I just I got a
notification during the break that I'm now being followed on
Twitter and it looks like it's actually him by Bernie Kozar.
You know, there are certain athletes that played for the

(01:39:21):
other team during your formative years that as an adult
you still have a bit of fondness for, and Bernie
Kozar is one of them. I had the Bernie versus
Boomer poster which they were wearing boxing gloves and it
had like their height and weight and reach and all
that stuff. I had that for longer than I maybe
should have. I had that like past, certainly past Bernie

(01:39:46):
playing for the Browns.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
I had it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:51):
Speaking of Twitter, Occasionally I will go on that app
and mute terms or mute words where I just don't
want to, like remember, like for the thirty six hours
people were losing their mind about torpedo Bats.

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
I just enough. I had to mute Torpedo Bats, and
I have muted.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
Ruin college basketball and ruin college football because I get
tired of people yelling and screaming that the sky is
falling every time a coach quits, or there's an nil
deal that college football and basketball are going to be ruined.
I had to mute Bill Belichick's girlfriend because I Number one,
I just don't think the stories about Bill Belichick and

(01:40:30):
his girlfriend are that interesting. I'm not going to buy
his book. I didn't watch his interview. I don't care
about North Carolina football. I don't think Bill Belichick, as
great of a coach as he was, is all that interesting.
And I certainly don't think his girlfriend is that interesting.
But I do know he's obviously at UNC now and
you can't avoid it, even if you try to mute

(01:40:50):
it on social media. He's got a twenty four year
old girlfriend by the name of Jordan Hudson, who has
apparently exerted all sorts of power and influence over his
personal life, over his public life, and I guess also
at North Carolina, and I am I'm probably not including
some details because I just it's not a story I've

(01:41:11):
paid very close attention to. But I did see today
that there were conflicting reports about whether or not she
had been banned from the North Carolina football facility.

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
I guess Pablo.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
Tory, who used to be on ESPN, on his podcast
and he found out she had been banned, and I
guess the school itself is refuting that, and so that's
why it's in.

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
The news today.

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
As a general rule, maybe if I was a North
Carolina fan, I would care, or maybe if I thought
Bill Belichick was that interesting, I would care. But in
terms of like her influence over the football program, like
apparently she mixed what was going to be hard knocks
like a UNC hard knocks.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
And she's around and she's not don't work for the university,
but she's wielding some influence in the football program, and
so that's I guess why it's become a sports story.
Here's my question about what I have to this point,
felt is the least interesting story in sports, and it
is a legitimate question. She's twenty four years old, he's

(01:42:22):
seventy three. If she was forty four, would anybody care?
Let's say she's forty five and he's fifty. He's a
fifty year old football coach, and he's got a girlfriend
or maybe even a wife who is doing some of
the exact same stuff. Now there's a dynamic here that's interesting.

(01:42:43):
Where Bill Belichick was this buttoned up, you know, no distractions,
nothing but football matters, and so now you have like
it just feels like he's a huge distraction. I know
nothing about his football team because all you hear is
about his girlfriend. But would there be interest in this
story if instead of a twenty four year old girlfriend
meddling in football affairs and meddling I guess, And how

(01:43:07):
he promotes his book if instead of a twenty four
year old, if she's forty four, and if instead of
seventy three his fifty Does anybody care about this? I
don't care? Now again, I can almost hate myself for
bringing it up on my show. But you seemingly can't escape.
Like I heard on a podcast, a media podcast that

(01:43:30):
stories about Bill Belichick and his girlfriend appeared on page
six of the New York Post like twenty two consecutive days.
So there's obviously interest in this. And I know there
was a CBS Sunday Morning interview with Bill Belichick that
went awry because she interrupted it at one point, and like,

(01:43:50):
I know some of the surface level stuff because you
can't avoid it. But is what's driving the interest here
just the age gap? I'm sure it's rare or at
least noteworthy if the significant other of a football coach

(01:44:11):
is sticking her nose in the football component of her
significant other's life, shooting down projects being copied on emails.
I guess that's part of the story too. She's got
to be copied on all these emails. And it's weird,
I grant you that, and maybe counterproductive to what North

(01:44:34):
Carolina wants to accomplish with Bill Belichick.

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
As the coach.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
And I think Bill Belichick coaching college football is interesting
for one basic reason. All these other coaches have decided
he can't get away from college coaching enough. And here
you have Bill Belichick running into this well sport that
everybody says is on fire. That's interesting, But is what's
driving the interest here of the age gap. It's not

(01:45:00):
that there's a girlfriend meddling in football affairs. It's that
there's a twenty four year old girlfriend meddling in football affairs.
I'm sure I'm not the only person to ask this,
and I'm sure many in my position have done show
topics on this. I'm not sure that's really my plan here,
But is is the story a girlfriend sticking her nose

(01:45:23):
in Bill Belichick's business? Or is it twenty four year
old girl. Let's say Bill Belichick, he's seventy three. Let's
say he goes on It's been quite a while since
I've had to use a I've actually never used a
dating app. I met my now wife before dating apps
became a thing. But let's say Bill Belichick, is match

(01:45:44):
match still a thing?

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
Or Tender? People still use tender? People still use tender?

Speaker 4 (01:45:48):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
Bill Belichick goes on Tender and he meets someone in
his age bracket, and they start dating, and she develops
a very high profile, and she's accompanying him to all
this stuff, sticking her nose in his business, asking to
be emailed, asking to be copied on official emails related
to football, shooting down hard knocks, Let's say she's sixty

(01:46:11):
eight six.

Speaker 2 (01:46:13):
Let's say she's seventy three. Bill has met a woman
his age. Is this the story?

Speaker 1 (01:46:21):
I'm gonna guess the answer is mostly no, but I
and we're never going to know the answer. I mean,
I guess if Bill dumps this girl and goes on
tender and meets a seventy three year old and she's
doing the same thing as the twenty four year old,
it is is the age gap? What's driving the interest here?
Like Scott Saderfield's how old is Scott Saderfield early early fifties,

(01:46:48):
So you know, if Scott Saderfield's wife Scott Saddlefield's fifty
two years old. I don't know how old his wife is,
but I would imagine they're reasonably close in age. And
let's say we found out that Scott Saderfield's wife is
being copied on emails. We would go, Okay, that's kind
of weird, But I don't think we care that much.
But if, like Scott Saderfield suddenly had a twenty two

(01:47:10):
year old girlfriend, I think then people would make us
maybe not as big.

Speaker 2 (01:47:13):
Of a deal because Scott Saderfield's not Bill Belichick feel
like what's driving? This is the age thing? All right?
There it is.

Speaker 1 (01:47:21):
I did six minutes on the least interesting story in sports.
I can check the box. How much have you talked
about that Bill Belichick girlfriend thing?

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
Six minutes?

Speaker 1 (01:47:31):
All right, we have to get a break in, take
a phone call or two sports headlines and more. ESPN
fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 2 (01:48:26):
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Speaker 1 (01:48:27):
Eight ten Tonight, seven hundred wylw Nick Martinez and Hunter
Brown first of three night game tomorrow an hour earlier
in a day game on Sunday. Starting lineup tonight, are
you ready? Friedol, McLean and Dela Cruz. Austin Hayes's back
off the injured list. He is dging and batting clean up,
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(01:48:50):
transactions for today. By the way, last night minor victory,
No Red got hurt. Hunter Green to the injured list.
Will Benson and Chase Petty up from Louisville. Blake dut
and Jacob Herdabe's have been sent to Louisville. Bengals held
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(01:49:10):
signed his contract yet. You see in Louisville will play
a pseudo home and home men's basketball series.

Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
This coming year.

Speaker 1 (01:49:18):
Cincinnati will take on Louisville at the Heritage Bank Center.
The following year, Louisville will host you see. I guess
can you host someone at a place you typically don't play?
They'll play Cincinnati at Freedom Hall. FC Cincinnati getting set
to play Austin tomorrow, and they are reportedly agreeing to
terms with a Major League soccer legend, Kai Kamara, who's

(01:49:43):
forty years old. I saw an FC Cincinnati Reddit someone
compared him to Bartolo Cologne. I don't know if that's
good or not. The match tomorrow night on ESPN fifteen thirty. Bob,
You're on ESPN fifteen thirty. What's going on?

Speaker 13 (01:49:58):
Hey, Moe, what's going on with you?

Speaker 2 (01:49:59):
I am sitting in a room talking into a microphone.
How about yourself?

Speaker 14 (01:50:03):
Well? Hey, as far as the Scott clanderfield thing, I
wish they would email his wife. The way he's coached
the last three years, it couldn't be any worse.

Speaker 2 (01:50:15):
Maybe put her in charge of some aspect of the program.

Speaker 14 (01:50:18):
Absolutely, I'll pass that on to him.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:50:23):
Hey, the other thing about Francona and the effort thing, that,
to me is one of the most ridiculous things. And
you know, he's not the first guy to say it,
nor will he be the last, but my goodness, I mean,
first off, when you talk about effort baseball, and I've

(01:50:45):
played them all. Baseball to me has got to be
the easiest sport from a physical standpoint you'd ever want
to find. And if the effort is I ran the
first base ninety b to hard, my goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:51:00):
Yeah, I mean you know it's they do it every day.
It can be physically taxing. A lot of guys get hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
I mean like, but.

Speaker 1 (01:51:08):
I think the Reds play hard. I think major League
Baseball players play hard. I think they compete. I've I've
rarely watched the Reds over the course of the last
forty years, and whether they've been good or bad, thought
this player isn't playing hard or this team isn't playing
effort and level of competitiveness, those things are implied to

(01:51:28):
me that you only notice them when someone's not playing hard.

Speaker 2 (01:51:32):
And when someone's not yes, mention it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:35):
But I'm I am very tired and very fatigued with
having to take solace in Hey, well, they really compete
it well they should, and if they didn't that would
be a problem.

Speaker 14 (01:51:47):
Hey, mo, I have a I have a great manager
story for you.

Speaker 2 (01:51:50):
If you have a second a manager story, Yes, sir,
and this.

Speaker 14 (01:51:54):
Is strange it's about Houston. And this happened back in
I think nineteen sixty five, and this was told to
me by an ex player who I think has since passed.
The guy's name was George Altman. He was a outfielder
with the Phillies, Cubs, Cardinals, played for several teams.

Speaker 5 (01:52:17):
Anyway, I asked.

Speaker 14 (01:52:19):
George to tell me a story about Leo Durocher and
he came up with a great one. He said, they
were in Houston, the Cubs were in Houston before the
Astrodome was built, and he said, just miserably hot, you know,
and so much so that Leo finally got pissed and

(01:52:40):
he told the players the next guy that talks about
how hot it is, I'm going to find your ass
five hundred dollars. So anyone goes by the Cubs run
in off of the field, and I think George told
me the outfielder that he met, but I can't remember

(01:53:01):
now who it was. But anyway, the Cub sat on
the bench and this guy says, damn, it's hot, and
he thought for a second, he said, just the way
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:18):
How did you encounter George Allman, who, by the way,
is still with us. Oh, is he really years old?

Speaker 5 (01:53:25):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (01:53:26):
Okay, Actually, more about I'm going to say fifteen and
maybe even twenty years ago at Career Stadium in Nashville.
I was down there for a Founds game, and at
that time, I guess George may have played in the
Negro League because they had like a traveling kind of
show that he was a part of. And you know,

(01:53:50):
we just happened to kind of run into each other
down in the left field corner where those guys were.
And when I found out who he was, I was
from Mayor, was his card and everything, and knew some
of the teams he played with. So I just went
up and introduced myself Andy, but very nice guy and
just I'll never forget that story.

Speaker 13 (01:54:11):
It was just a classic.

Speaker 1 (01:54:12):
Yeah, one of the one of the better outfielders of
the early nineteen sixties.

Speaker 14 (01:54:16):
Yeah, sure was all right. Well, hey listen, man, have
a great weekend, and thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
Sure, Bob, I appreciate it. You know, that's what I
like about this show.

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
We could talk about George Altman, who last played in
nineteen sixty seven, fourteen minutes away from six o'clock five,
when three seven, four nine fifteen thirty is our phone number.
This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 2 (01:55:21):
And hadn't been the DL in like a decade.

Speaker 1 (01:55:24):
But the correct answer to your question is Hunter Green,
unfortunately is on the injured list.

Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
Red's made that transaction today. Austin Hayes, though not on
the DL anymore, not on the injured list either.

Speaker 1 (01:55:37):
He's back in batting forth Reds and Astros tonight with
Nick Martinez getting the ball against a guy who has
thrown really well this year.

Speaker 2 (01:55:45):
In uh, Hunter Brown are particular for your Knicks tomorrow,
all right, I think they lose tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:55:50):
I think they will go to Boston with a three
to one series lead and then lose in seven. That's
not me being like this fatalistic, like the the Boston
Celtics have the better team. They have built twenty point
leads in each game. Now, I think the Knicks have
been more complicit in the Boston demise than many have

(01:56:13):
given them credit for. And the Garden crowd tomorrow is
gonna be absolutely rocking. The Knicks have lost two playoff
home games already. They have not been a reliable team
when it like There have been a lot of times
in the regular season where a felt like they're about
to take off and then they will lose a game
just love averages would dictate you know, Boston's gonna make

(01:56:33):
this a series. You might argue, well, it's gonna be
hard for them to win four out of five. They
beat the Knicks all four times in the regular season.
Three of those games were not really competitive. They have
built massive leads in each game. They're gonna shoot just statistically,
they're bound to shoot from outside better than they have.
They have the more talented team. Now, if the Knicks

(01:56:55):
continue to defend in crunch time. If they can defend
across the entire four eight minutes the way they have
defended in bits and spurts, and certainly in the fourth quarter,
then they absolutely have a chance. But I'm I'm gonna
guess they're up three to one going to Game five.
Knicks fans are feeling it. I'm feeling it, and they

(01:57:16):
break my heart and lose in seven. Hope I'm dead wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:57:22):
For this show, I hope not. Yeah, man, it's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:57:25):
It's we've gotten We've gotten calls about the NBA and
the Knicks, and like you know, it's I have I
have genuinely enjoyed this. I have genuinely enjoyed hearing from
people who have said, I'm not a real NBA fan,
I don't follow it that closely, but you have a team,
and so I want your team.

Speaker 2 (01:57:40):
I mean to me, that's that's how it should be
done right on a human level.

Speaker 1 (01:57:46):
Say hey, like I'm not Look, I know people who
have said, like, dude, I love the Celtics, hope your
team gets killed, or I'm a Pacers fan, hope your
team beats Boston and then loses to Indy.

Speaker 2 (01:57:56):
Like that's fine too, but.

Speaker 1 (01:57:57):
Yes, it's it's a lot of fun this time of
year having a team that's in it, and it's the
one thing, you know. Years ago, I went to a
Columbus Blue Jackets playoff game, which was a blast, and
I'm a very casual Blue Jackets fan. They had a
better season this year than I think a lot of
people anticipated, a season that started with absolute tragedy because

(01:58:21):
of Johnny Gadrouz, just an excusable passing. But anyway, I
went to a playoff game a few years ago, and
maybe like ten years ago, and I came back and
I even wrote a blog about like, even if you're
not a huge hockey fan or NBA fan, it's if
you've ever been to a city where they have one
of those teams and they're playing in the playoffs and

(01:58:44):
spring has sprung, there's something just different about it. When
I went to two playoff games in Indiana, in Indianapolis,
I went to one in nineteen ninety nine Eastern Conference Final.
I went to another one in twenty thirteen, and it
was it was a Knicks and Pacers. The one I
went to in ninety nine, the nixt one, the one
I went to in twenty thirteen. The Pacers blew them out.

(01:59:07):
But you go up there and it's this time of
year and it's warm, and there's big games happening. Like
you think of the sports we have. In baseball, the
playoffs are in October, not that we're ever in them,
and the football playoffs are awesome, but it's cold and
I like warm weather. I like spring and MLS soccer playoffs.
I think it's one thing that makes March Madness awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:59:28):
You know, the weather is mostly starting to turn just
a little bit, the days are.

Speaker 1 (01:59:34):
Longer, games are on during the day, and so like
springtime element I think helps make March madness March madness.

Speaker 2 (01:59:42):
Maybe that's just me. I think it would be like
so cool to have an apologies to the cyclones here
for a second.

Speaker 1 (01:59:49):
I think it'd be so fun to have one of
those leagues where you're having playoff games in May and
ideally in June. There's something about that that is if
you've ever been to a city and I've gone to
Columbus and I've gone to Indianapolis, Uh, you know, go
to those cities when the teams are playing and it's
you know, springtime postseason.

Speaker 2 (02:00:09):
Games are awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:00:10):
So ah, yeah, I up three point thirty tomorrow. Man,
I'll be ready if they go up three to oh.
I'll go to bed tomorrow night thinking like, man, please don't,
please don't blow this. Please don't become the first NBA
team to ever blow a three oh lead. Please please
don't do that. Please don't become. You know, the Red

(02:00:31):
Sox came back from three to zero against the Yankees
in two thousand and four, and I can't stand either
one of those teams.

Speaker 2 (02:00:36):
So we'll see. But if they go up three oh,
Monday is gonna be fun. Monday is gonna be fun.
I'm stoked, like I've waited for.

Speaker 1 (02:00:44):
Look, they made this round last year, but they were
decimated by injury and a good Indiana team beat them,
better coached, but the Knicks just fell Apart from an
injury perspective, but in that series, they were up two
to oh and they should have won Game three and
they let the series get away. So you know, when
you have a chance to put a team away, Not

(02:01:05):
that you can end the series tomorrow, but I remember
last year they lost to the Pacers on a Friday night.
The game was in Indianapolis, and it was there for
the taking. If I recall, they had possession end of
regulation with a chance to win and didn't. And I
might have the details on that kind of off, but
nonetheless I remember thinking like that was their chance.

Speaker 2 (02:01:21):
You're up to, oh.

Speaker 1 (02:01:22):
Now, the difference there is that game was an indie,
but you're up to, oh, win game three and put
yourself in the verge of maybe getting a sweep.

Speaker 2 (02:01:31):
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (02:01:32):
Can't wait tomorrow three thirty. We'll be here Monday regardless,
three oh five.

Speaker 2 (02:01:37):
We hope you join us.

Speaker 1 (02:01:38):
Thanks to New Knicks fan Tarrean Bland for producing, and
thanks to you for listening. Have an awesome night. This
is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

Speaker 4 (02:01:53):
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