June 8, 2026 • 35 mins
The Reds have accomplished a statet goal. The NCAA can't be a thing anymore. And a must-see game this fall.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Birthday.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
What's up? This is ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm a leger.
Thank you so much for listening.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Hopefully you've had an awesome Monday. We've got a nice weekend.
We're a guest for you this hour for Lock around
the cover. There's a must see game later on this
fall and the NCAA took a beating again, another beating
in court. This applies to Brendan Sorsby. More on that
a little bit later on. Red gets swept in Saint Louis.
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Bad defense, bad bullpen pitching, just top to bottom, bad weekend,
not very timely hitting. Just if it could go wrong,
it did. If it could go wrong for this team
over the last couple of weeks, it has and the
results is a team that's two hunderd five hundred and
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nine and a half games at a first place less
than two weeks into June. Nick Crawl said this in
March of two thousand, twenty two. Quote, we're trying to
eliminate peaks and valleys. That is a direct quote from
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a little bit more than four years ago. We're trying
to eliminate peaks and valleys. Take away the twenty twenty
two season. He said that before twenty twenty two, after
the lockout and right when they were trading away dudes
like Sonny Gray and Auhanio Suarez. We're trying to eliminate
peaks and valleys. Since then, well, there was the twenty
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twenty three season. Lots of fun, lots of fun, rejuvenated
the fan base, re energized people when it comes to
the Reds. The Reds that season finished two over five hundred.
The following season, didn't make the playoffs, didn't come close
last year, four over five hundred, today two under five hundred.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I brought this up on social media.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
This week June sixth, twenty twenty three felt like an
extraordinarily significant day in the history and evolution of the
Cincinnati Reds. Ellie deler Cruz made his big league debut
that night three years ago this past Saturday. The Reds
won the game that night in walk off fashion. Fun
night at the ballpark that night felt significant. It felt
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significant because it felt like Ellie, along with this nice
stockpile of young players, were on the verge of something big,
on the verge of something maybe sustainable, on the verge
of something that could pay off. By the middle of
the decade like it did go back. I remembered that
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time vividly. It felt like, if you're a Reds fan,
that years of waiting, years of waiting for the Reds
to contend, We're finally gonna pay off. Maybe not in
the instant immediate future, maybe not in twenty twenty three,
but certainly by the middle of the decade. Right since then,
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the Reds have played four hundred and ninety games, including
that night against the Dodgers. They're two over five hundred.
We keep doing the same. Are they in it or
are they not in it? Are they buyers or are
they sellers? Right now it's hard to argue that they're
going to be buyers. One good week could change that,
I guess, But that's become an annual thing. The number
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of foundational pieces that the Reds have, truly established, players
who could be considered like mainstays, guys that you look
at and go there are core cogs, not just for
this year but for moving forward. The number of players
who fit that description extraordinarily small, shockingly small, quite frankly,
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if you compare today to how we felt about the
direction the Reds were going in three years ago. So
I go back to March of twenty twenty two, when
Nick Krawl said, we're trying to eliminate peaks and valleys.
Is this what it looks like? Is this what that
looks like? There are no peaks peak last year was
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finished with eighty three wins. Make the postseason get swept
by the Dodgers. Valley would be I don't know the
way they've played over the last month or so. If
this is what eliminating peaks and valleys looks like, I
can only speak for myself. I would imagine, though I'm
speaking for most dude, sign me up for something else.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I'm out on no peaks and valleys.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
If this is what it looks like, non stop running
on a on a hamster wheel, NonStop running on a treadmill,
non stop waiting in mediocrity, non stop flirting with or
barely being above five hundred, non stop debating whether they're
buyers or sellers. Non stop not in first place, non
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stop at the very best, trying to sneak into the postseason,
non stop watching guys get million chances to continue to
prove there's something that they haven't been. If this is
what eliminating peaks and valleys looks like, give me something else,
give me peaks and valleys, because then I at least
get peaks.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Not whatever this is.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
This is unending and like you can get mad at
me for saying it. But the Reds don't feel appreciably
better or different than they did three years ago?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Do they?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I don't think the answer is yes, there are some
nice players. Chase Burns wasn't here three years ago. Glad
that dude's with the Reds right now. Sal Stewart wasn't
with the Reds three years ago. Glad he's here right now.
But overall, do they feel demonstratively better than they did
three years ago? I'm not even talking about twenty twenty two.
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That team stunk, but remember that year the Reds chose
to stink and the thinking behind it, the rationale behind it,
was gonna stink right now, just way to feel years.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
And for me, that was middle of the decade.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
The payoff is this, The payoff for losing one hundred
games was spending about ten minutes in the postseason last
year being chumped for the LA Dodgers, then this season
spending the summer flirting with five hundred, and you know
what we'll do they'll they'll go on a little bit
of a run here and they'll be within a you know,
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a few games of that last wildcard spot, and folks
will talk themselves into it. Maybe maybe that happens. I
hope it does. I'm not sure how Vis gets that
much better, not with the current makeup but the team,
not with the current deficiencies. And I was listening to
Marty and Tracy talk about the team as a whole
getting healthier, getting Hunter Green back, getting Ellie Delacruz back, awesome,
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could use those guys. This team without Elie dela Cruz
is significantly worse than when they have Eli Delacruz. He is,
I think, almost unquestionably their best player, their most indispense.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
By the way, if I.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Was Elie de la Cruz, whatever the long term asking
price would be just went up. See this is what
it looks like when I'm not here. But man, the
bigger thing for me is just the fact that this
franchise things have changed. There's a Hall of Fame manager
in the manager's office right now, They've promoted a lot
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of players. The composition of the team is obviously not
the same, and yet things still feel remarkably similar year
after year after year.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I know they made the playoffs last year.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Let's be honest, man, did last year's team feel like
it was significantly different or better than anything the Reds
had put on the field in recent years? Did it
feel significantly different or better than the team the Reds
have right now? Does this year's team feel significantly worse
than what the Reds had in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Which, by the way, that year they did spend some
time in first place.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
It is remarkable, remarkable how little things have changed over
the course of the last three seasons.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And man, maybe things do get better here.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I just I don't know mechanically what you can do
to make things any better besides hoping that players play better.
For lack of a better way of putting it, I'm
not sure there's anything more frustrating in recent Cincinnati sports
than this. And again, it's it's about like delivering a
payoff and you could throw at me while the injuries
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or they thought this guy would be good, and like,
there are some things that have gone south that I
didn't think would go south. I'm the first to admit, man,
I didn't think this bullpen was going to be terrible,
might not have been as good as it showed in
the first two or three weeks. It is really surprising
how bad this bullpen has been. Injuries have been a factor,
but you are exhausted of excuses. If you're a Reds fan,
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which means the Reds can't make any like you could
tell me, well, this is, you know, just a bad
couple of months and when we tried and our best
laid plans didn't necessarily work out. Cool when you have
been asking fans to wait and wait and wait for
decades and you're incapable of delivering a payoff more than
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a neat September that resulted in their eighty third victory
in two postseason games where they got clobbered, good luck.
Good luck getting people to buy in, good luck getting
people to continue to be patient, good luck getting people
to continue to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Good luck getting people to not react harshly to when
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your team plays the way it did this weekend in
Saint Louis, and to looking at a team that's two
hunder five hundred here in the middle of June. Is
this what not having peaks and valleys looks like? If
so see you, I'd sign me up for Peaks, because
just NonStop hamster wheel, eighty wins, eighty two wins, seventy
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seven wins, whatever, this year's win total ends up being
probably not going to be ninety.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Hard pass, hard pass quarter after five.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
We'll take some phone calls five one, three, seven, four, nine,
fifteen thirty. I've asked for weeks how does this get better?
And I haven't heard an answer because there isn't one
beyond just like some guys just got to play better,
some dudes in the bullpen who have not been very
good are gonna have to start pitching effectively. I don't
know what there is. This is extraordinarily frustrating. This the
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fact that we are in twenty twenty six and something
that seems so promising three years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
This is the payoff. This is it.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
This is the reward for years of watching the Reds
not be very good. This is how it how it peaks.
Oh that's right, there are no peaks. Well, as many
of us concluded in twenty twenty two, when there are
no peaks and there are no valleys, you're kind of stuck,
kind of in the middle, which is exactly where the
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Reds are today and being in the middle ain't gonna
put you in a position to win a championship. Sixteen
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Speaker 4 (11:38):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
If if you're running an organization and you're not allowed
to enforce your own rules, then what's the point of
your organization? That is the question confronting the NCAA today.
Because of the Brendan Sowersby ruling, he's going to be
eligible to play college football for the Red Raiders this
year at Texas Tech. We'll spend a little bit of
time on that and an absolute must see game this
fall coming up on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Traffic from the UC Health Traffic Center like this is
ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
They are stuck. Reds are There are no quick fixes.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
In the offing, None could pine for the trade deadline. Okay,
well that's the trade deadline seven and a half weeks away.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
And by the way, their dudes who are hurt ain't
like this team was running away and hiding before those
guys got hurt. More on that in just a bit,
echoing some of the stuff I've said today about the
Brendan Soresby thing, and like, I want to be clear
about this, the Brendan Soorsby thing.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Where he's been.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
His injunction has been granted, so he's going to be
allowed to play college football this year. When Brendan Soresby
decided to leave UC that didn't bother me in the
least as a sports fan. When players reach free agency,
they've earned that and they go and choose to play
somewhere awesome doesn't bother me. It never has, Never has.
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Player decides to not sign here doesn't bother me, never has.
You could complain about the fact that college football players
or college basketball players have the freedom of movement that
they do, but Brendan Soorsby, I don't know about the
ins and outs of his contract and whether or not
he owes UC money. I don't know, but as a
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general rule, like him leaving to go chase money at
Texas Tech, cool, go do it, I would have had
no reason to root against him, aside from when they
play UCE. I view Brendan Soresby is a little bit
different than a lot of people. Certainly there's potential. I
have not understood a lot of the draft chatter. I've
not understood a lot of the chatter about him being
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a Heisman trophy. By the way, those odds are back
on the board. I saw a player who played very unevenly,
especially against good teams. I watched them hang sixty nine
yards passing against Nebraska. I watched them complete eleven passes
against Utah, playing behind a very good offensive line and
with skill guys who are good enough to get drafted,
like Cyrus Allen and like Joe Royer. I referred to
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him as the Andy Dalton of college football. There's there's
certainly a case that can be made that you Seese
quarterback after Brendan Sowersby will be worse. But you also
felt like, man, we could do a lot better. So
I don't come off. I don't come I'm not coming
at this from the perspective of jilted fan who's mad
that Brandon left. I just I think it's comical that
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you have an organization that has established rules that has
just been told in court the most definitive time compared
to all these other instances where players have sued for eligibility,
you can enforce your own rules. One of the smartest
people when it comes to a covering college football is
ESPN Heather Dimich. Here's a Heather talking about the Brendan
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Soorsby case what it means for the NC DOUBLEA.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
College sports reached a new low today. A judge in
Lubbock County, Texas, ruled that Texas Tech quarterback Brendan Soorsby
is eligible.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
To play this year.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
That means that judge took away the NC doublea's power
to enforce its own rules that athletes cannot bet and
they can't bet on their own teams. This should have
been an open and shutcase. Brendan Soorsby broke the rules.
He bet on his own team when he was in Indiana,
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and the NC DOUBLEA ruled him ineligible. If there's one
thing that could make Congress act. Maybe this is it.
If the nc DOUBLEA cannot enforce its own rules on
players betting and betting on their own teams, this is
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a whole new door that just opened in terms of
betting and corruption and college sports.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Well said, it sounds like she was doing a talkback
on since he three sixty. Also, was she driving a
car while she was recording that or somebody else?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Somebody else? Okay, Heather Dinnis, It's true.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I'm not huge into government intervention in anything. But if
there's if there's one thing that they can maybe accomplish,
it's helping the NCAA.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Enforce its own rules.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
And I've seen people on social media argue, well, you
should be allowed to bet on your own team. Could
not disagree more. But that's not what this is about.
There was a rule against betting on your own team.
He did it. There's no real punishment for it. Got
to be able to enforce your own rules. All right,
we have folks waiting. Let's talk to other people. Five
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point three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty. Mike, of course
has been forever.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Hi, Mike, I'm good, Mike. What's going on?
Speaker 7 (17:07):
Well? Uh, Brandon sports. He's got some dance flood lawyers.
I'll tell you that much. I would hire them, suckers,
if I needed a lawyer, that'd be the first guy.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I go through.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
Or guys, good job, good job at the Warriors. Not
that I care about the outcome. But you know, the
way we've dembellished sports and glamorized gambling on sports in
this country in the last five for ten years, nothing
surprises me. And it will do nothing but get worse,
mister Edgar, and you can bank on that.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
What's gonna get worse?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I mean in college, will it get worse if you
can get away with betting on your own team?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Yeah, that'll get worse.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
In Major League Baseball, in the NFL and the NBA
and the NHL and professional sports, we have we have
rules that stay very clearly you can't bet on pro sports.
And yeah, there have been some some wagering scandals, but
there's been nothing like this. There are punishments in pro
sports that come with making wagers on your own team.
In college now there's none.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
Yeah, well, okay, I'm done with that because I'm know
how tired of it really, But anyway, I'm sorry about you.
Did you get the money order. No, I sent it
on June the third. I'm looking at it right here.
I'm looking at the receipt June the third. Cabulous, it's
the eighth.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Did you did you use the United States Postal Service?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (18:29):
I sure I did.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
My mom lives in Nevada and send something to my
daughter using the United States Postal Service and it took
two and a half weeks.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
So I'm not sweating it yet, Mike.
Speaker 8 (18:44):
See, I sometimes I have my one of my sisters
lives in Pahoa, Hawaii, on the Big Island, and I
sent her stuff sometimes and gets there in four or
five days.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
You know who knows, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
I don't know. But anyway, I just wanted to keep
checking with you.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
As soon as it arrives, I will make sure you're aware.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
Thanks. And Trump going in there tonight, Oh you know what,
that's going to only cost a lot more traffic than
they already got. So that's not gonna help matter for
those folks. I feel sorry for him. I think before
I get to the game tonight, if you'd allow me,
I don't have a.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Ton of time. I got a lot of folks waiting,
so let's be quick.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
Yeah, I'm trying. I really wish the Reds, instead of
fiddling around with all these other clowns, would have just
bit the bullet and tried to get all this chapmen
at the beginning of the year. But the essence of
the problem I think with the Revs is not developing talent,
identifying talent. I think that is their biggest problem, identifying talent. Okay,
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now we'll go to the NBA tonight. I I've heard
a lot of guys talking about it, and it looks
like the consensus is they're going to go small another
George Harper will start Sam pagn and won't. They're gonna
go small and Welemby better be aggressive from the jump.
He better get down on that post and he'd better
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get Townens out trouble otherwise they don't have a shot.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, I would agree with that.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I think Dylan Harper has to be a larger part
of what they do on the offensive end. He is
a star in the making. Wemby has to play better.
I don't think he has played poorly. He was obviously,
you know, really bad down the last minute and a
half of Game two, but he's he is the best
player in this series. He has to be the best
player in these games for San Antonio to win. And
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I think you could have said that prior to this series.
I think it holds true now. I think while he
has been good, I don't think he has been as
good as they need him to be. But I do
feel like making Dylan Harper a larger focal point of
what they want to do offensively would would play to
their favor.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
Do you think, and I know you last question, do
you think that in the next few years when they
beef probably beef weemby up or he just naturally beats
up more, that he'll be more of a low post presence.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Maybe, you know, modern modern big step out and play,
you know, away from the basket more than ever.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
And I think that's what makes him unique.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
But yeah, I think it's I think it's a fair
observation because he is so slender that he could use
some beefing up that would make him a better low
post player.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
But you know, I mean there's a lot.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Of modern bigs out there who aren't necessarily playing with
their back to the basket anymore. And I think his
skill set certainly invites you know him being able to
play in a lot of different spots, but could he
use a little bit more girth?
Speaker 8 (21:49):
Absolutely, Dirk Nowhisky started all this, He started all this
stuff with it. Well not really I can go back further,
but I know you got to go. Thank you all
for Mike n.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I will do my best. Thanks very much.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
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Nine forty is Tonight's first pitch in San Diego. The
game live on seven hundred WLW. Brendan Soresby's injunction has
been granted he could play college football this year.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
You see and Texas Tech are gonna play.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
It is going to be the homecoming game for the
University of Cincinnati, and from a from a a storyline perspective,
from the perspective a game of a game having a
little bit more juice. I don't know that UC versus
Texas Tech. I think there would have been a little
bit more juice on that game because there's I guess
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this sense that U see did Brendan Sores be dirty
while he was here by some Texas Tech fans. I
don't necessarily believe that, but him coming back to play
in Nippert Stadium is going to make that game a
little bit more fun. Saturday, October the twenty fourth, and
tonight in New York Game three NBA Finals, Nixon Spurs
New York up two games tonight. We have folks, So
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we have folks who have been waiting patiently. It's like
wait till the end of the show to call it.
And I will try to get to as many as
we can. I'm sure calling to gloat about his Cardinals
sweeping the Reds or friend, Bob, Bob you're on ESPN
fifteen thirty.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Congratulations Bob for what No, I'm sorry, Well, your.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Cardinals behind Jordan Walker, who we can never get out
swept the reds.
Speaker 9 (23:59):
Oh I've what I didn't even pay attention. Thanks for
letting me know.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Very welcome.
Speaker 9 (24:05):
Yeah, there there was an interesting thing that happened MO
over the weekend. However, the Cardinals picked up a guy
and you may know the name, probably better than I do.
I think his last name is Sinja. He's a amma
dexterous pitcher.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
From Seattle, Javier's son, Sooja.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Is that it.
Speaker 9 (24:32):
He was a first round pick of the Mariners I
think two years ago, I believe. Okay, anyway, I think
he's naturally a right hander, but he can also pitch
and has done so with his left arm. And I
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was just sitting here wandering what would happen MO if
a switch hit comes to the plate?
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I think the umpire would then have the discretion to
say that once you know, the pitcher has established.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
The hand that he the arm that he's gonna throw.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
With that, the hitter then has an opportunity to establish
from which side of the batter's box he's going to
hit on, and then, with the pitch clock in particular,
tell the pitcher to deliver the ball.
Speaker 9 (25:28):
You know what, I never I never thought about the
pitch clock thing until you just said it. But the
other part I was kind of curious about, if you know,
if the umpire would even have the ability to do that.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Uh yeah, So, like you're you're talking about a situation
where pitcher has the ball on his left hand, hitter
decides he's going to bat right he so the pitcher
then switches hands the hitter. I mean, I think the
umpire would have the ability to say, all right, you're
gonna throw with your right arm and you're in a
bat from the left side, let's go.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (26:05):
It just seems to me, It just seems so I
don't know, so so final that the umpire could say
this is what's gonna happen. But you know they're there
for a reason, right Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
So actually, as I look this up, it's it's the
the Pat Van Ditti rule, who is a guy who
began pitching in the minor leagues in two thousand and eight,
and so the Professional Baseball Umpire Corporation, which I've never
heard of, created a new rule which has been adapted
into the official Baseball rules, that states a pitcher must
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visually indicate to the umpire batter and runners which way
he will be pitching to the batter, and then once
he does that play proceeds as normal and the you know,
the the guy you're talking about here that the Cardinals
have acquired is Jerangelo Singenti. Yeah, who was the fifteenth
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overall picked by the Mariners in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 9 (27:03):
Yeah, and the guy you said the rules made after
what's his name?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Pat ven Diddy?
Speaker 9 (27:12):
So so I guess people have to ask the question,
what would ven Diddy do?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (27:21):
Yes, hey mo.
Speaker 9 (27:23):
By the way, Trump is going to be in Dolan
sweet tonight.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Oh way, is he always watching the game? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Cool?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
So yeah, I hope he sees a win by his
favorite team.
Speaker 9 (27:39):
Well, he needs a win. He's not had many of
them lately. So and I think there is a rumor
out there that if san Antonio wins, he made declare
war on them.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
So, Bob, thank you, Yes, sir, it is sixteen from
US Mike and Toledo.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
You're on ESPN.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
That was that was a bad job by me with
that call from Bob's Mike from Toledo.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
You're on fifteen thirty.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Hey, Well thanks for flipping Bob in there too, because
I didn't want to Mike from Tinciltown to Mike Glass City.
You know, I mean, I'm just that's a lot of
pressure like that.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, you know what I mean, a lot of Mike.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
But yeah, anyways, it's what I told Arn on the screen. Oh,
it's exactly what you said. You sprung my old engineering
mind in that. You said, what are they different from
three years ago? They're not. They're They're the epitome those statistics,
they're the epitome. The reds are standard deviation, three sigma up,
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three sigma down, three sigma up, three sigma down. They've
been that way for not just three years. I went
to Game two of the World Series in nineties, so
they've been that way for thirty years. So you see
with three games. I called Lance last year and told
him and he said, you know what that is? Eighty
one wins ball. If you're a betting man, they're three up,
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three downs. They'll get your they'll get you excited. But
you know what when we told the boss, hey, that
was that was a hydraulic machine. Great for a baseball team.
You're exactly right. You don't want that.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yeah, it's running in place I mean it's it's it's
operating on treadmill, and you.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Know, and everybody in the bosses say, hey, great, oh man,
that thing is running. Boy, it's humming. Man. Look at
that three up, three down, three yep three. They's done
that way more for thirty years.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Well, but but I don't I don't know that it
entirely has because if you look at like, you know,
fifteen through eighteen, they lost ninety four plus every single season.
I mean, they're I think they're they're they better better
baseball team than they have been for many of those
thirty years, but they're not good enough to be taken
seriously as a contender, and at the end of the day,
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that's all that matters.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I would agree with that. But the point you said
earlier about the Dodgers last year we got we got
no hit. Granted it's Doc holiday, but we get sucked
in both re up redoun always think of that. We're
right on the mean, eighty one wins, we're three up,
we're three down. We're not, And why why would we move?
The boss is happy, people are coming in. Everything, everything's good.
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So when you when you said the three years that
like what, hey, wait, that's exactly right. We're no different
than we were three years ago, and unfortunately more we
probably ain't going to be no different than we are
three years from now. If you think about it, what's
you said it, what's in sight? What we bringing up?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
And in fact, I think there's a case that can
be made that they're going to be worse, because there's
they might right, like you know, this this year was
supposed to be the I don't know the result of
getting all those guys through the system, like Ellie and
like Matt McLean and like you know, even they acquired
him from outside, Noelve Martin, all the pitchers they have,
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and then it was all supposed to come together in
twenty twenty six. And so now you look at the
minor league system and the granted Edwin Royo is here,
and it's it's not totally tapped, but there's there's no
Eli Deller Cruz waiting in the wings. There's no Hunter
Green waiting in the rings, there's no Chase Burns waiting
in the wings, and so that's you You look at
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the team as currently constructed, and it's who's who's who's
pushing at the minor league level to replace some of
the guys they have right now.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
And I don't know that the answer is anybody absolutely done.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
I mean, you're right, we have what Alfredo Donald? I mean,
who else? Who else do we really have that you look,
I mean look at the top one hundred and the
sad part is, well, you said it, everybody has said it.
Look and then you look at this year the Brewers,
Who's who's drafted at the top and every year, I mean,
it's it's not I mean, I don't know. I don't know.
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If you you looked at it, you said, okay, you're
firing Nick krawl I mean, but oh, it's it's the
whole organization. Brother, I mean I would I would you know,
you hear that the bench start cut? I mean in
the medical staff. I mean it has been it's been
you know, I've been since seventy six, so it's been
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it's been longer that seventy five seventy six. But it's
been a long it's been a long road. And I
don't I just don't see it. We don't think you
give it to Nick Crawley. He found Chase Burns, he
found Red louder.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
I guess not, but like not not not exactly turning
over rocks to find you know, hidden gems.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
That's that is correct. Say that those the pitching those
were not. I won't say, no brainers. But tell me,
besides Sal Stewart, who do we have I mean, and
who is Nick Krawl drafted a position player outside of
salth Stewart. Who's here? I mean Spencer Steer, he's everybody's
from outside the organization. Who have we drafted organizationally in
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a position player not only just an outfielder outfielders huh?
Come on? I mean right, I mean you look at it.
I mean, Matt McLean, Okay, why is Edwin Urara? Yeah? So,
I mean, ma, I wish it was different, brother, but
always think of it the standard deviation. Brother, three up,
three down, and the boss is happy.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
It's a good way to put it, Mike. Nice to
hear from you, all right, Bob again?
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yeah, I hope. So we'll stay north of town before
we get out of here. Finley John, you're on ESPN
fifteen thirty.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Tell you, moo, just one thing real quick here. I
think both you and I can take blame for the
Reds recent transgressions and then here's why, as we know,
we only have so much sports karma in our lives
that I think your nick except pretty much eating on
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your side. I'm an Indiana football fan and all suffering,
and you can imagine how much sports karma that took up.
So I think I think we might be onto something there,
because as we all know, not all of our sports
teams can be great at the same time.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
That never happened, not unless you lived in Boston for
a large chunk of the twenty first century.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
And I feel like you're correct.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Yeah, that's all I got.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Thank you, all right?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Yeah, I would look, it's it's frustrating, and.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
It's one thing when they're not winning.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I think it's something else about just the disappointment over
buying in three years ago that better times were.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Ahead, and maybe they are, but it doesn't feel like it.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
And yeah, man, if I would have said during the
summer of twenty twenty three that we'll be in the
middle of the summer of twenty twenty six, the Reds
will be under five hundred and we'll still be waiting
for them to win a playoff game, much less advanced
than the postseason. For the first time, you would have
said then that's not gonna work, and that's where we are.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
It hasn't worked.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Gotta go, uh tomorrow. Danner's gonna join us actually on
Wednesday because there's Bengals media availability Tomorrow, Red's padres whatever's
going on down there at Pey Corpse Stadium, and maybe
do some NBA Finals Game three reaction.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
We will see. Have a great night.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Thank you for listening. Thanks to Tarren Bland for producing.
We'll talk to you tomorrow at three oh five on
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Thank you so much for listening.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Hopefully you've had an awesome Monday. We've got a nice weekend.
We're a guest for you this hour for Lock around
the cover. There's a must see game later on this
fall and the NCAA took a beating again, another beating
in court. This applies to Brendan Sorsby. More on that
a little bit later on. Red gets swept in Saint Louis.
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Bad defense, bad bullpen pitching, just top to bottom, bad weekend,
not very timely hitting. Just if it could go wrong,
it did. If it could go wrong for this team
over the last couple of weeks, it has and the
results is a team that's two hunderd five hundred and
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nine and a half games at a first place less
than two weeks into June. Nick Crawl said this in
March of two thousand, twenty two. Quote, we're trying to
eliminate peaks and valleys. That is a direct quote from
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a little bit more than four years ago. We're trying
to eliminate peaks and valleys. Take away the twenty twenty
two season. He said that before twenty twenty two, after
the lockout and right when they were trading away dudes
like Sonny Gray and Auhanio Suarez. We're trying to eliminate
peaks and valleys. Since then, well, there was the twenty
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twenty three season. Lots of fun, lots of fun, rejuvenated
the fan base, re energized people when it comes to
the Reds. The Reds that season finished two over five hundred.
The following season, didn't make the playoffs, didn't come close
last year, four over five hundred, today two under five hundred.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I brought this up on social media.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
This week June sixth, twenty twenty three felt like an
extraordinarily significant day in the history and evolution of the
Cincinnati Reds. Ellie deler Cruz made his big league debut
that night three years ago this past Saturday. The Reds
won the game that night in walk off fashion. Fun
night at the ballpark that night felt significant. It felt
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significant because it felt like Ellie, along with this nice
stockpile of young players, were on the verge of something big,
on the verge of something maybe sustainable, on the verge
of something that could pay off. By the middle of
the decade like it did go back. I remembered that
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time vividly. It felt like, if you're a Reds fan,
that years of waiting, years of waiting for the Reds
to contend, We're finally gonna pay off. Maybe not in
the instant immediate future, maybe not in twenty twenty three,
but certainly by the middle of the decade. Right since then,
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the Reds have played four hundred and ninety games, including
that night against the Dodgers. They're two over five hundred.
We keep doing the same. Are they in it or
are they not in it? Are they buyers or are
they sellers? Right now it's hard to argue that they're
going to be buyers. One good week could change that,
I guess, But that's become an annual thing. The number
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of foundational pieces that the Reds have, truly established, players
who could be considered like mainstays, guys that you look
at and go there are core cogs, not just for
this year but for moving forward. The number of players
who fit that description extraordinarily small, shockingly small, quite frankly,
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if you compare today to how we felt about the
direction the Reds were going in three years ago. So
I go back to March of twenty twenty two, when
Nick Krawl said, we're trying to eliminate peaks and valleys.
Is this what it looks like? Is this what that
looks like? There are no peaks peak last year was
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finished with eighty three wins. Make the postseason get swept
by the Dodgers. Valley would be I don't know the
way they've played over the last month or so. If
this is what eliminating peaks and valleys looks like, I
can only speak for myself. I would imagine, though I'm
speaking for most dude, sign me up for something else.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I'm out on no peaks and valleys.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
If this is what it looks like, non stop running
on a on a hamster wheel, NonStop running on a treadmill,
non stop waiting in mediocrity, non stop flirting with or
barely being above five hundred, non stop debating whether they're
buyers or sellers. Non stop not in first place, non
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stop at the very best, trying to sneak into the postseason,
non stop watching guys get million chances to continue to
prove there's something that they haven't been. If this is
what eliminating peaks and valleys looks like, give me something else,
give me peaks and valleys, because then I at least
get peaks.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Not whatever this is.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
This is unending and like you can get mad at
me for saying it. But the Reds don't feel appreciably
better or different than they did three years ago?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Do they?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I don't think the answer is yes, there are some
nice players. Chase Burns wasn't here three years ago. Glad
that dude's with the Reds right now. Sal Stewart wasn't
with the Reds three years ago. Glad he's here right now.
But overall, do they feel demonstratively better than they did
three years ago? I'm not even talking about twenty twenty two.
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That team stunk, but remember that year the Reds chose
to stink and the thinking behind it, the rationale behind it,
was gonna stink right now, just way to feel years.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
And for me, that was middle of the decade.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
The payoff is this, The payoff for losing one hundred
games was spending about ten minutes in the postseason last
year being chumped for the LA Dodgers, then this season
spending the summer flirting with five hundred, and you know
what we'll do they'll they'll go on a little bit
of a run here and they'll be within a you know,
(06:27):
a few games of that last wildcard spot, and folks
will talk themselves into it. Maybe maybe that happens. I
hope it does. I'm not sure how Vis gets that
much better, not with the current makeup but the team,
not with the current deficiencies. And I was listening to
Marty and Tracy talk about the team as a whole
getting healthier, getting Hunter Green back, getting Ellie Delacruz back, awesome,
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could use those guys. This team without Elie dela Cruz
is significantly worse than when they have Eli Delacruz. He is,
I think, almost unquestionably their best player, their most indispense.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
By the way, if I.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Was Elie de la Cruz, whatever the long term asking
price would be just went up. See this is what
it looks like when I'm not here. But man, the
bigger thing for me is just the fact that this
franchise things have changed. There's a Hall of Fame manager
in the manager's office right now, They've promoted a lot
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of players. The composition of the team is obviously not
the same, and yet things still feel remarkably similar year
after year after year.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I know they made the playoffs last year.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Let's be honest, man, did last year's team feel like
it was significantly different or better than anything the Reds
had put on the field in recent years? Did it
feel significantly different or better than the team the Reds
have right now? Does this year's team feel significantly worse
than what the Reds had in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Which, by the way, that year they did spend some
time in first place.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
It is remarkable, remarkable how little things have changed over
the course of the last three seasons.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And man, maybe things do get better here.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I just I don't know mechanically what you can do
to make things any better besides hoping that players play better.
For lack of a better way of putting it, I'm
not sure there's anything more frustrating in recent Cincinnati sports
than this. And again, it's it's about like delivering a
payoff and you could throw at me while the injuries
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or they thought this guy would be good, and like,
there are some things that have gone south that I
didn't think would go south. I'm the first to admit, man,
I didn't think this bullpen was going to be terrible,
might not have been as good as it showed in
the first two or three weeks. It is really surprising
how bad this bullpen has been. Injuries have been a factor,
but you are exhausted of excuses. If you're a Reds fan,
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which means the Reds can't make any like you could
tell me, well, this is, you know, just a bad
couple of months and when we tried and our best
laid plans didn't necessarily work out. Cool when you have
been asking fans to wait and wait and wait for
decades and you're incapable of delivering a payoff more than
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a neat September that resulted in their eighty third victory
in two postseason games where they got clobbered, good luck.
Good luck getting people to buy in, good luck getting
people to continue to be patient, good luck getting people
to continue to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Good luck getting people to not react harshly to when
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your team plays the way it did this weekend in
Saint Louis, and to looking at a team that's two
hunder five hundred here in the middle of June. Is
this what not having peaks and valleys looks like? If
so see you, I'd sign me up for Peaks, because
just NonStop hamster wheel, eighty wins, eighty two wins, seventy
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seven wins, whatever, this year's win total ends up being
probably not going to be ninety.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Hard pass, hard pass quarter after five.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
We'll take some phone calls five one, three, seven, four, nine,
fifteen thirty. I've asked for weeks how does this get better?
And I haven't heard an answer because there isn't one
beyond just like some guys just got to play better,
some dudes in the bullpen who have not been very
good are gonna have to start pitching effectively. I don't
know what there is. This is extraordinarily frustrating. This the
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fact that we are in twenty twenty six and something
that seems so promising three years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
This is the payoff. This is it.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
This is the reward for years of watching the Reds
not be very good. This is how it how it peaks.
Oh that's right, there are no peaks. Well, as many
of us concluded in twenty twenty two, when there are
no peaks and there are no valleys, you're kind of stuck,
kind of in the middle, which is exactly where the
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Reds are today and being in the middle ain't gonna
put you in a position to win a championship. Sixteen
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Speaker 4 (11:38):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
If if you're running an organization and you're not allowed
to enforce your own rules, then what's the point of
your organization? That is the question confronting the NCAA today.
Because of the Brendan Sowersby ruling, he's going to be
eligible to play college football for the Red Raiders this
year at Texas Tech. We'll spend a little bit of
time on that and an absolute must see game this
fall coming up on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Traffic from the UC Health Traffic Center like this is
ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
They are stuck. Reds are There are no quick fixes.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
In the offing, None could pine for the trade deadline. Okay,
well that's the trade deadline seven and a half weeks away.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
And by the way, their dudes who are hurt ain't
like this team was running away and hiding before those
guys got hurt. More on that in just a bit,
echoing some of the stuff I've said today about the
Brendan Soresby thing, and like, I want to be clear
about this, the Brendan Soorsby thing.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Where he's been.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
His injunction has been granted, so he's going to be
allowed to play college football this year. When Brendan Soresby
decided to leave UC that didn't bother me in the
least as a sports fan. When players reach free agency,
they've earned that and they go and choose to play
somewhere awesome doesn't bother me. It never has, Never has.
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Player decides to not sign here doesn't bother me, never has.
You could complain about the fact that college football players
or college basketball players have the freedom of movement that
they do, but Brendan Soorsby, I don't know about the
ins and outs of his contract and whether or not
he owes UC money. I don't know, but as a
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general rule, like him leaving to go chase money at
Texas Tech, cool, go do it, I would have had
no reason to root against him, aside from when they
play UCE. I view Brendan Soresby is a little bit
different than a lot of people. Certainly there's potential. I
have not understood a lot of the draft chatter. I've
not understood a lot of the chatter about him being
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a Heisman trophy. By the way, those odds are back
on the board. I saw a player who played very unevenly,
especially against good teams. I watched them hang sixty nine
yards passing against Nebraska. I watched them complete eleven passes
against Utah, playing behind a very good offensive line and
with skill guys who are good enough to get drafted,
like Cyrus Allen and like Joe Royer. I referred to
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him as the Andy Dalton of college football. There's there's
certainly a case that can be made that you Seese
quarterback after Brendan Sowersby will be worse. But you also
felt like, man, we could do a lot better. So
I don't come off. I don't come I'm not coming
at this from the perspective of jilted fan who's mad
that Brandon left. I just I think it's comical that
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you have an organization that has established rules that has
just been told in court the most definitive time compared
to all these other instances where players have sued for eligibility,
you can enforce your own rules. One of the smartest
people when it comes to a covering college football is
ESPN Heather Dimich. Here's a Heather talking about the Brendan
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Soorsby case what it means for the NC DOUBLEA.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
College sports reached a new low today. A judge in
Lubbock County, Texas, ruled that Texas Tech quarterback Brendan Soorsby
is eligible.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
To play this year.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
That means that judge took away the NC doublea's power
to enforce its own rules that athletes cannot bet and
they can't bet on their own teams. This should have
been an open and shutcase. Brendan Soorsby broke the rules.
He bet on his own team when he was in Indiana,
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and the NC DOUBLEA ruled him ineligible. If there's one
thing that could make Congress act. Maybe this is it.
If the nc DOUBLEA cannot enforce its own rules on
players betting and betting on their own teams, this is
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a whole new door that just opened in terms of
betting and corruption and college sports.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Well said, it sounds like she was doing a talkback
on since he three sixty. Also, was she driving a
car while she was recording that or somebody else?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Somebody else? Okay, Heather Dinnis, It's true.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I'm not huge into government intervention in anything. But if
there's if there's one thing that they can maybe accomplish,
it's helping the NCAA.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Enforce its own rules.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
And I've seen people on social media argue, well, you
should be allowed to bet on your own team. Could
not disagree more. But that's not what this is about.
There was a rule against betting on your own team.
He did it. There's no real punishment for it. Got
to be able to enforce your own rules. All right,
we have folks waiting. Let's talk to other people. Five
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point three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty. Mike, of course
has been forever.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Hi, Mike, I'm good, Mike. What's going on?
Speaker 7 (17:07):
Well? Uh, Brandon sports. He's got some dance flood lawyers.
I'll tell you that much. I would hire them, suckers,
if I needed a lawyer, that'd be the first guy.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I go through.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
Or guys, good job, good job at the Warriors. Not
that I care about the outcome. But you know, the
way we've dembellished sports and glamorized gambling on sports in
this country in the last five for ten years, nothing
surprises me. And it will do nothing but get worse,
mister Edgar, and you can bank on that.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
What's gonna get worse?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I mean in college, will it get worse if you
can get away with betting on your own team?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Yeah, that'll get worse.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
In Major League Baseball, in the NFL and the NBA
and the NHL and professional sports, we have we have
rules that stay very clearly you can't bet on pro sports.
And yeah, there have been some some wagering scandals, but
there's been nothing like this. There are punishments in pro
sports that come with making wagers on your own team.
In college now there's none.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
Yeah, well, okay, I'm done with that because I'm know
how tired of it really, But anyway, I'm sorry about you.
Did you get the money order. No, I sent it
on June the third. I'm looking at it right here.
I'm looking at the receipt June the third. Cabulous, it's
the eighth.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Did you did you use the United States Postal Service?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (18:29):
I sure I did.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
My mom lives in Nevada and send something to my
daughter using the United States Postal Service and it took
two and a half weeks.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
So I'm not sweating it yet, Mike.
Speaker 8 (18:44):
See, I sometimes I have my one of my sisters
lives in Pahoa, Hawaii, on the Big Island, and I
sent her stuff sometimes and gets there in four or
five days.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
You know who knows, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
I don't know. But anyway, I just wanted to keep
checking with you.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
As soon as it arrives, I will make sure you're aware.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
Thanks. And Trump going in there tonight, Oh you know what,
that's going to only cost a lot more traffic than
they already got. So that's not gonna help matter for
those folks. I feel sorry for him. I think before
I get to the game tonight, if you'd allow me,
I don't have a.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Ton of time. I got a lot of folks waiting,
so let's be quick.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
Yeah, I'm trying. I really wish the Reds, instead of
fiddling around with all these other clowns, would have just
bit the bullet and tried to get all this chapmen
at the beginning of the year. But the essence of
the problem I think with the Revs is not developing talent,
identifying talent. I think that is their biggest problem, identifying talent. Okay,
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now we'll go to the NBA tonight. I I've heard
a lot of guys talking about it, and it looks
like the consensus is they're going to go small another
George Harper will start Sam pagn and won't. They're gonna
go small and Welemby better be aggressive from the jump.
He better get down on that post and he'd better
(20:10):
get Townens out trouble otherwise they don't have a shot.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, I would agree with that.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I think Dylan Harper has to be a larger part
of what they do on the offensive end. He is
a star in the making. Wemby has to play better.
I don't think he has played poorly. He was obviously,
you know, really bad down the last minute and a
half of Game two, but he's he is the best
player in this series. He has to be the best
player in these games for San Antonio to win. And
(20:38):
I think you could have said that prior to this series.
I think it holds true now. I think while he
has been good, I don't think he has been as
good as they need him to be. But I do
feel like making Dylan Harper a larger focal point of
what they want to do offensively would would play to
their favor.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
Do you think, and I know you last question, do
you think that in the next few years when they
beef probably beef weemby up or he just naturally beats
up more, that he'll be more of a low post presence.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Maybe, you know, modern modern big step out and play,
you know, away from the basket more than ever.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
And I think that's what makes him unique.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
But yeah, I think it's I think it's a fair
observation because he is so slender that he could use
some beefing up that would make him a better low
post player.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
But you know, I mean there's a lot.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Of modern bigs out there who aren't necessarily playing with
their back to the basket anymore. And I think his
skill set certainly invites you know him being able to
play in a lot of different spots, but could he
use a little bit more girth?
Speaker 8 (21:49):
Absolutely, Dirk Nowhisky started all this, He started all this
stuff with it. Well not really I can go back further,
but I know you got to go. Thank you all
for Mike n.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I will do my best. Thanks very much.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Uh five point three seven four nine fifteen thirty will
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Speaker 5 (22:10):
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Speaker 3 (22:17):
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(22:39):
Nine forty is Tonight's first pitch in San Diego. The
game live on seven hundred WLW. Brendan Soresby's injunction has
been granted he could play college football this year.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
You see and Texas Tech are gonna play.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
It is going to be the homecoming game for the
University of Cincinnati, and from a from a a storyline perspective,
from the perspective a game of a game having a
little bit more juice. I don't know that UC versus
Texas Tech. I think there would have been a little
bit more juice on that game because there's I guess
(23:14):
this sense that U see did Brendan Sores be dirty
while he was here by some Texas Tech fans. I
don't necessarily believe that, but him coming back to play
in Nippert Stadium is going to make that game a
little bit more fun. Saturday, October the twenty fourth, and
tonight in New York Game three NBA Finals, Nixon Spurs
New York up two games tonight. We have folks, So
(23:36):
we have folks who have been waiting patiently. It's like
wait till the end of the show to call it.
And I will try to get to as many as
we can. I'm sure calling to gloat about his Cardinals
sweeping the Reds or friend, Bob, Bob you're on ESPN
fifteen thirty.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Congratulations Bob for what No, I'm sorry, Well, your.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Cardinals behind Jordan Walker, who we can never get out
swept the reds.
Speaker 9 (23:59):
Oh I've what I didn't even pay attention. Thanks for
letting me know.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Very welcome.
Speaker 9 (24:05):
Yeah, there there was an interesting thing that happened MO
over the weekend. However, the Cardinals picked up a guy
and you may know the name, probably better than I do.
I think his last name is Sinja. He's a amma
dexterous pitcher.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
From Seattle, Javier's son, Sooja.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Is that it.
Speaker 9 (24:32):
He was a first round pick of the Mariners I
think two years ago, I believe. Okay, anyway, I think
he's naturally a right hander, but he can also pitch
and has done so with his left arm. And I
(24:52):
was just sitting here wandering what would happen MO if
a switch hit comes to the plate?
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I think the umpire would then have the discretion to
say that once you know, the pitcher has established.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
The hand that he the arm that he's gonna throw.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
With that, the hitter then has an opportunity to establish
from which side of the batter's box he's going to
hit on, and then, with the pitch clock in particular,
tell the pitcher to deliver the ball.
Speaker 9 (25:28):
You know what, I never I never thought about the
pitch clock thing until you just said it. But the
other part I was kind of curious about, if you know,
if the umpire would even have the ability to do that.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Uh yeah, So, like you're you're talking about a situation
where pitcher has the ball on his left hand, hitter
decides he's going to bat right he so the pitcher
then switches hands the hitter. I mean, I think the
umpire would have the ability to say, all right, you're
gonna throw with your right arm and you're in a
bat from the left side, let's go.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (26:05):
It just seems to me, It just seems so I
don't know, so so final that the umpire could say
this is what's gonna happen. But you know they're there
for a reason, right Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
So actually, as I look this up, it's it's the
the Pat Van Ditti rule, who is a guy who
began pitching in the minor leagues in two thousand and eight,
and so the Professional Baseball Umpire Corporation, which I've never
heard of, created a new rule which has been adapted
into the official Baseball rules, that states a pitcher must
(26:39):
visually indicate to the umpire batter and runners which way
he will be pitching to the batter, and then once
he does that play proceeds as normal and the you know,
the the guy you're talking about here that the Cardinals
have acquired is Jerangelo Singenti. Yeah, who was the fifteenth
(26:59):
overall picked by the Mariners in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 9 (27:03):
Yeah, and the guy you said the rules made after
what's his name?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Pat ven Diddy?
Speaker 9 (27:12):
So so I guess people have to ask the question,
what would ven Diddy do?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (27:21):
Yes, hey mo.
Speaker 9 (27:23):
By the way, Trump is going to be in Dolan
sweet tonight.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Oh way, is he always watching the game? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Cool?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
So yeah, I hope he sees a win by his
favorite team.
Speaker 9 (27:39):
Well, he needs a win. He's not had many of
them lately. So and I think there is a rumor
out there that if san Antonio wins, he made declare
war on them.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
So, Bob, thank you, Yes, sir, it is sixteen from
US Mike and Toledo.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
You're on ESPN.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
That was that was a bad job by me with
that call from Bob's Mike from Toledo.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
You're on fifteen thirty.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Hey, Well thanks for flipping Bob in there too, because
I didn't want to Mike from Tinciltown to Mike Glass City.
You know, I mean, I'm just that's a lot of
pressure like that.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, you know what I mean, a lot of Mike.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
But yeah, anyways, it's what I told Arn on the screen. Oh,
it's exactly what you said. You sprung my old engineering
mind in that. You said, what are they different from
three years ago? They're not. They're They're the epitome those statistics,
they're the epitome. The reds are standard deviation, three sigma up,
(28:46):
three sigma down, three sigma up, three sigma down. They've
been that way for not just three years. I went
to Game two of the World Series in nineties, so
they've been that way for thirty years. So you see
with three games. I called Lance last year and told
him and he said, you know what that is? Eighty
one wins ball. If you're a betting man, they're three up,
(29:08):
three downs. They'll get your they'll get you excited. But
you know what when we told the boss, hey, that
was that was a hydraulic machine. Great for a baseball team.
You're exactly right. You don't want that.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yeah, it's running in place I mean it's it's it's
operating on treadmill, and you.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Know, and everybody in the bosses say, hey, great, oh man,
that thing is running. Boy, it's humming. Man. Look at
that three up, three down, three yep three. They's done
that way more for thirty years.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Well, but but I don't I don't know that it
entirely has because if you look at like, you know,
fifteen through eighteen, they lost ninety four plus every single season.
I mean, they're I think they're they're they better better
baseball team than they have been for many of those
thirty years, but they're not good enough to be taken
seriously as a contender, and at the end of the day,
(29:57):
that's all that matters.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I would agree with that. But the point you said
earlier about the Dodgers last year we got we got
no hit. Granted it's Doc holiday, but we get sucked
in both re up redoun always think of that. We're
right on the mean, eighty one wins, we're three up,
we're three down. We're not, And why why would we move?
The boss is happy, people are coming in. Everything, everything's good.
(30:23):
So when you when you said the three years that
like what, hey, wait, that's exactly right. We're no different
than we were three years ago, and unfortunately more we
probably ain't going to be no different than we are
three years from now. If you think about it, what's
you said it, what's in sight? What we bringing up?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
And in fact, I think there's a case that can
be made that they're going to be worse, because there's
they might right, like you know, this this year was
supposed to be the I don't know the result of
getting all those guys through the system, like Ellie and
like Matt McLean and like you know, even they acquired
him from outside, Noelve Martin, all the pitchers they have,
(31:05):
and then it was all supposed to come together in
twenty twenty six. And so now you look at the
minor league system and the granted Edwin Royo is here,
and it's it's not totally tapped, but there's there's no
Eli Deller Cruz waiting in the wings. There's no Hunter
Green waiting in the rings, there's no Chase Burns waiting
in the wings, and so that's you You look at
(31:25):
the team as currently constructed, and it's who's who's who's
pushing at the minor league level to replace some of
the guys they have right now.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
And I don't know that the answer is anybody absolutely done.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
I mean, you're right, we have what Alfredo Donald? I mean,
who else? Who else do we really have that you look,
I mean look at the top one hundred and the
sad part is, well, you said it, everybody has said it.
Look and then you look at this year the Brewers,
Who's who's drafted at the top and every year, I mean,
it's it's not I mean, I don't know. I don't know.
(32:00):
If you you looked at it, you said, okay, you're
firing Nick krawl I mean, but oh, it's it's the
whole organization. Brother, I mean I would I would you know,
you hear that the bench start cut? I mean in
the medical staff. I mean it has been it's been
you know, I've been since seventy six, so it's been
(32:20):
it's been longer that seventy five seventy six. But it's
been a long it's been a long road. And I
don't I just don't see it. We don't think you
give it to Nick Crawley. He found Chase Burns, he
found Red louder.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
I guess not, but like not not not exactly turning
over rocks to find you know, hidden gems.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
That's that is correct. Say that those the pitching those
were not. I won't say, no brainers. But tell me,
besides Sal Stewart, who do we have I mean, and
who is Nick Krawl drafted a position player outside of
salth Stewart. Who's here? I mean Spencer Steer, he's everybody's
from outside the organization. Who have we drafted organizationally in
(33:04):
a position player not only just an outfielder outfielders huh?
Come on? I mean right, I mean you look at it.
I mean, Matt McLean, Okay, why is Edwin Urara? Yeah? So,
I mean, ma, I wish it was different, brother, but
always think of it the standard deviation. Brother, three up,
three down, and the boss is happy.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
It's a good way to put it, Mike. Nice to
hear from you, all right, Bob again?
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yeah, I hope. So we'll stay north of town before
we get out of here. Finley John, you're on ESPN
fifteen thirty.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Tell you, moo, just one thing real quick here. I
think both you and I can take blame for the
Reds recent transgressions and then here's why, as we know,
we only have so much sports karma in our lives
that I think your nick except pretty much eating on
(33:57):
your side. I'm an Indiana football fan and all suffering,
and you can imagine how much sports karma that took up.
So I think I think we might be onto something there,
because as we all know, not all of our sports
teams can be great at the same time.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
That never happened, not unless you lived in Boston for
a large chunk of the twenty first century.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
And I feel like you're correct.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Yeah, that's all I got.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Thank you, all right?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Yeah, I would look, it's it's frustrating, and.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
It's one thing when they're not winning.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I think it's something else about just the disappointment over
buying in three years ago that better times were.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Ahead, and maybe they are, but it doesn't feel like it.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
And yeah, man, if I would have said during the
summer of twenty twenty three that we'll be in the
middle of the summer of twenty twenty six, the Reds
will be under five hundred and we'll still be waiting
for them to win a playoff game, much less advanced
than the postseason. For the first time, you would have
said then that's not gonna work, and that's where we are.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
It hasn't worked.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Gotta go, uh tomorrow. Danner's gonna join us actually on
Wednesday because there's Bengals media availability Tomorrow, Red's padres whatever's
going on down there at Pey Corpse Stadium, and maybe
do some NBA Finals Game three reaction.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
We will see. Have a great night.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Thank you for listening. Thanks to Tarren Bland for producing.
We'll talk to you tomorrow at three oh five on
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
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