June 9, 2026 • 35 mins
The Bengals do it again! How much worse is the Reds season going to get and Brendan Sorsby being allowed to play is bad for the NCAA, but it's GREAT for college football.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station. The Bengals have done
it again. What's up.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Good afternoon at Moegger. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Thank
you so much for listening. I hope we're having an
awesome Tuesday afternoon. Paul Danner Junior is not here because
he's working today. He's down there at the venue originally
known as Paul Brown Stadium, and so he is going
to be with us a special five o'clock Paul Danner
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Junior appearance tomorrow. We are looking forward to that, and
we'll have something to discuss beyond.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
OTAs and the ordinary.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
According to Ian Rappaport and Adam Schefter of ESPN, the
Bengals and Joe Burrow have restructured Joe's contract that will
create a little cap flexibility for the Bengals. It's going
to create about ten million dollars in cap room. I'll
read Ian Rappaport's tweet here. The move allows Sincy to
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operate without putting themselves in a tough spot cap wise.
He continues doing part to the cash needed for the
Dexter Lawrence trade. This is, to the best of my recollection,
something they've never done. And this has been an offseason
defined by the Bengals doing things that you typically do
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not expect them to do. You typically do not expect
the Bengals even if the quarterback, and in Joe Burrow's case,
this was the case, if the player is willing to
do a restructure, Bengals still don't do it.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
They do it here.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I don't know that that's going to mean any seismic
change for the rest of this offseason, but it does
create a little bit more flexibility that was going to
be needed moving forward. And so I think there's two
major takeaways here. One, the Bengals continue to do things
that you don't expect them to do. That is awesome
because one of the biggest complaints is always the unwillingness
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to evolve, the unwillingness to step out of their own
organizational comfort zone. They did it with the Dexter Lawrence trade.
They've done it here with Joe Burrow. It's also and
Joe has made it known that he's willing to do this.
And this is a year for the Bengals that's going
to be defined by a lot of different things, right,
It's going to be defined by can the moves they
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made payoff. Can Zach Taylor stay employed? What's it going
to mean for the coaching staff? What's it going to
mean for other players looking to get paid? But Man,
more than anything else, how much will these success or
a lack thereof change quiet or even amplify the chatter
about Joe Burrow and his future? That's a storyline this year,
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whether you want to admit it or not. And trust me, man,
I can get very tired along with a lot of
folks here with the unending psychoanalysis of Joe Burrow. And
there are a lot of bad takes out there when
it comes to Joe Burrow and his future. That said,
we've done this now for a couple of years, watching him,
you know, express his frustration, We've watched his body language,
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We've heard the things that he's had to say. We
understand the history of this franchise. When it comes to
players asking out, specifically that quarterback, it would certainly suggest
the fact that Joe and the Bengals did this and
worked on this and got this done together. That in
itself would suggest that Joe is in a pretty good
place when it comes to his relationship right now with
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the Bengals with the people who own the team, with
the people.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Who run the team.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Obviously, they haven't played a game yet, the season is
still far off. The first time there's adversity, maybe that
changes the conversation. If this season goes sideways, if expectations
aren't met, maybe that changes things. But this, the fact
that they worked on this together would suggest that there's
a pretty good working relationship between the player and the team.
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That can't be anything but a good thing. So Iron
and Adam Scheffer both worked on that together. Bengals and
Joe Burrow restructured contract. This is something that he has
expressed publicly a willingness to do. Creates ten million dollars
in cap space, something that they simply do not do.
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And we've joked about this on this show, We've joked
about it on the Tony and Mo Football Show that
it would be awesome if we could all get away
from like that as an explanation as to why the
Bengals might not do something. Oh, it's just not something
they do, right, It's just not something they do. How
about trade away the tenth overall pick for a two
time All Pro defensive lineman.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
That's just not something they do well, they did it
this year.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
How about doing the restructure with your quarterback, with your
best player, with the face of your franchise.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, that's just not something they do.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
If we can shorten the list, or even better get
rid of the list of things that the Bengals simply
do not do, that would be awesome. And it's off
seasons like this that enable you to be able to
do that. So more reaction across the course of the afternoon,
a little bit more cap space for the Bengals, and
they were going to need some flexibility. They've gotten some
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here and they've gotten it thanks to number nine. This
is a really, really positive and fun development. Eleven minutes
after three o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. My name
is Mowgar. Thank you so much for listening. Our show
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Union has shred Day coming up on Saturday. Learn all
about it at share facts dot org and find out
what those folks can do for you. If you are
looking to safely and securely get rid of your old
personal documents. We've got some Brendan Soresby stuff. We've got
to get to a little bit later on. The Brendan
Sowersby story that kind of broke yesterday is awful for
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the NCAA, but it is great for college football. We'll
get to that a little bit later on. We'll spend
a few moments on the NBA Finals. Reds lose last
night in a game that can we call it the
misplayed bunt game?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Tara, do you have for me.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So we could all torture ourselves the montage of misplayed
San Diego bunts in the ballgame last night? Well, we'll
have that a little bit later on. Apparently, Reds lose
their fifth consecutive game. They waste a good starting outing
by Andrew Abbott, they fall apart because they can't field
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a bunt, and a game that was very much there
for the taking becomes the latest in a long line
of frustrating games, frustrating outcomes, and games that pull them
further and further away from first place.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
The Reds as we stand.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Right now, are ten and a half games out of
first place after a six to two loss last night,
with San Diego scoring the three runs to put them
in front. The bunt inning in the bottom of the eighth,
ten and a half games at a first place on
June ninth. Now, a lot of that is a statement
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about the Milwaukee Brewers, who we should talk about today,
but it's also a damning indictment of the Cincinnati Reds.
And if I would have said to you or anybody
else three months ago that it'd be the second Tuesday
of June and the Reds will be in last place,
ten and a half at a first place, three under
five hundred, you probably would have said, there is no way.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And yet here we are.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
The question is now, and you hate to do this
this early in the season, how much worse is this
going to get? And I think the last time we
asked that was too twenty two. Now, the Reds lost
one hundred games that season. I don't think any of
us believe they're going to lose one hundred games this year.
This does seem to be a better team, although they
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have today the second toughest remaining schedule in all of
Major League Baseball. But the last time we did this
was April of twenty twenty two. I remember it vividly.
That was the year Opening Day was later because of
the lockout. They started two and two, and then they
went on to lose what twenty of their next twenty
one games.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
They were three and twenty.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Two and twenty five games into the season, season over,
season over, and I remember in those first three or
four weeks asking often how much worse is this going
to get? It may get better, it probably will, but
by the time it does, how bad will it be?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Now?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
For that team that year, it was abundantly clear that
the only real mystery, only real suspense for the entire season,
We're about two things. One, what were they gonna get
for the guys they ended up trading like Luis Castillo
and Tyler Mallley later that season? The two could they
avoid one hundred losses? The Reds are not gonna lose
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one hundred games this year. But it is sobering beyond
belief that we are doing things this season, and we
are asking things this season that we haven't done and
haven't asked since the season in which they lost all
hundred games? How much worse is this gonna get? And
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part of that's something you could ask.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Because of the injuries, and the injuries are what they are,
God knows. We've talked about them to death.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Part of that is what you could ask about this
team because of the just lack of reliable options in
the bullpen. Part of it is something you could ask
about this team because the roster just doesn't have enough
guys who are good and established and in their prime.
Not a very good baseball team, not a very good
baseball team. And it's a team that from a talent perspective,
has a low ceiling. But it's a team that because
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of that has to play damn near perfect baseball.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
When they got off to the twenty and.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Eleven start, think what stood out more than anything, where
first of all, they played clean ball. They were very
good defensively, took them forever to make their first air
of the season. They didn't give away ouse, they didn't
give away bases, they didn't do dumb things too, very
good bullpen work. Both of those things have evaporated. Defense
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failed him in Saint Louis. Bullpen failed him in Saint Louis.
Defense failed him last night. Bullpen failed him last night.
So yeah, man, you could wonder when's it going to
get better or how's it going to get better? I've
asked often over the last ten days or so, how
does this get fixed. Now we're to the point where
we are wondering how much worse can it get? And
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the last time any one of us really asked that question,
this team was in route to losing one hundred games
by the middle of the decade. I think all of
us hoped that we would be no longer channeling twenty
twenty two. And yet here we are, sixteen minutes after
three o'clock. Our phone lines are open, we're guests free
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until four thirty five, one, three, seven, four nine fifteen
thirty is our number? Eight six six, seven oh two
three seven seven six. Meanwhile, a familiar theme atop the
National League Central I've got a little bit of an idea,
maybe a dumb one. I'll run it past you. Next
on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.
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Five, struck out, twelve, walk four and they're expecting a
bun and they get one right now on the third
base line. There's a first basement in pictures sliding and
it'll be nobody out. As Antone and South Stewart both
went after the ball at the same time. There was
no way that Stewart was gonna be able to clean
it pick.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It cleanly, and he threw late the first dase.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
On a three one count. Here is a pitch by Antone.
It is punted on the ground to the first base side,
a pair handed sent by South Sport. He bobbles it
and it will be a everybody safe situation. Davin Sheets
comes in from third, Chase Bowen goes to second base,
and the batter some odd Taylor ends up at first base.
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Stewart playing in swore as the third playing in. They're
gonna punt again, and this one is out in front
of home fight right to the picture and he bobbles
it and there's nobody gonna make a play. Three times
in a row the Padres have put a punt down
in the infield, and three times in a row the
Red defenders can't get handle on the baseball.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
And there you go.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Chris Wells Reds Radio Network and seven hundred WLW last
night giving you The description of the three consecutive bunts
and the eighth inning that the Reds could not field
in Round two, a six to two loss to the
Padres last night, just just pathetic. I can't sugarcoat it.
I'm not going to sugarcoat it. There's no other way
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of putting it. And look, man, maybe it's a bad inning.
Maybe those things happen on a good team. This is
not a good team right now, and so your mistakes
get amplified and we make more out of them when
you're not a very good team. Last night looked like
straight out of twenty twenty two. I had really hoped
that this year we wouldn't be talking about anything related
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to twenty twenty two. Instead, that's where we are. More
on that coming up momentarily. More Bengals news. This is
good news. The Bengals have signed cash is how the
team's second round draft choice from Texas A and M
he signs his contracts. Cincinnati has now signed each of
their seven selections in the twenty twenty six NFL Draft.
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So just really quick, think about where we are now
in relation to where we were a year ago. A
year ago at this time, what dominated the discourse Trey
Hendrickson and Shamar Stewart. You may blame the Bengals for
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those things. You may blame Trey Hendrickson and Shamar Stewart
for those things. You may blame their representation, but that's inarguable.
At this point a year ago, it was why hasn't
Schamar signed? What sort of stuff is he gonna say?
Why are these two sides so far apart? How much
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of this is gonna hurt his rookie season, how much
of this is gonna hurt the team? And then the
Trey Hendrickson circus, which just took a life of its own.
A year later, the quarterback and the team just did
something that the team has never done. They've done a
restructure of Joe Burrow's contract, gonna save him about ten
million dollars against the cap, create a little bit more flexibility.
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The only possible downside to the Dexter Lawrence deal was
you started to look long term and it's like, all right,
how inflexible are they gonna be? Now they've got a
little bit of wiggle room.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Which is great.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So you have them doing more stuff that they've never
done before. Meanwhile, and I read Paul Diner Junior today
and he joins US tomorrow. DJ Turner at OTAs. If
there is a guy on the team that you could
maybe maybe rationalize, I don't want to say pulling a
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Tray Hendricks in but using some leverage to get a
new deal, it would be DJ Turner, I think, arguably
the best defensive player who returns from last year's team,
a guy who is an ascending player in this league,
a guy who is, you know, one of the candidates
to be a breakthrough star in twenty twenty twenty six,
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and he showed a lot of those characteristics last year.
Nobody is going to anoint somebody a star playing on
a bad team with a bad defense. But DJ Turner
played really well last season, played well enough that you
look at him as one of those pieces you want
to move forward with for the rest of the decade.
We'll see what that deal looks like. DJ Turner's at
OTA's Dax Hill has been a participant in the offseason program.
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There's no rumbling of discontent from Miles Murphy, and you
might have expected it from him, but none. No rumblings
of discontent from Chase Brown. Things can change. Training camp
is still a month and a half away. Maybe there's
something that pops up. Maybe somebody's agent gets into their
ear and says, hey, look, once we get to camp,
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maybe do a hold in, Maybe make some noise about
a deal. Nobody that has requested a trade. Nobody is
showing up and grand standing at practice. Nobody, to the
best of my knowledge, is sending vague tweets, vague Instagram posts.
No draft choice is unsigned. Nobody's grand standing at their locker.
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Nobody is saying things that make you wonder what's up
between the team and the player. It is remarkable how
different things are today versus a year ago. Does that
guarantee success, Absolutely not. But think of all those things
that we have spent so much time obsessing over in
the offseason, pretty much all of them not helpful toward
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the goal of winning, and those things, at least to
this point, eliminated entirely. That is extraordinarily refreshing if you're
a fan. It has to be insanely refreshing if you're
Zach Taylor. Twenty nine minutes after three o'clock, a Newsy
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first half hour of the show, Cash is Hal signed,
Joe Burrow and the Bengals restructure a contract and the
Reds maybe taking bunting practice today. I have no idea
bunting fielding practice today. I have no idea. Meanwhile, we've
got the Brendan Soresby thing. We have to discuss. Brendan
Soorsby being allowed to play college football is bad for
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the NCAA, but it is awesome for college football. That
coming up in twenty minutes on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.
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The Bengals today, according to Ian Rappaport of ESPN, announced
that the Bengals he announces, he reports, didn'tally announced.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
He reports.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Bengals have restructured the quarterback contract. Why don't I do
this in English? The Bengals have restructured quarterback Joe Burrow's contract,
creating ten million dollars in cap room. So Bengals have
a little bit more flexibility, as our guy, Paul Danner
Junior points out, While nearly every major quarterback contract has
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been restructured to this point. This is the first time
the Bengals have touched Burrows deal since he signed it
in September of twenty twenty three. And as Paul puts
it and he joins us tomorrow in the five o'clock hour,
the wins of change continue to blow in Cincinnati this offseason.
It is, if you understand anything, some of this stuff
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sounds like regular NFL transactional stuff. Teams restructure their quarterback
contracts all the time. Just not here, and you can
make too much out of this if you want. I
just think it's awesome. The Bengals are doing things you
typically don't associate with them. Second round pick Cash's House
signs his contract. All of the Bengals draft choices are
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in the fold. Meanwhile, Reds and Padres again tonight in
San Diego nine first pitch, seven hundred WLW Cincinnati well
stend staff as Chase Burns to the hill against Lucas Giolito.
Starting lineup for the game not out yet, Red's trying
to break a five game losing streak. Florence y'all's take
on the New Jersey Jackals tonight and in Vegas It's
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Game four of the NHL Stanley Cup Final. The Golden Knights,
hosting the Hurricanes. Vegas leads the series two games to one.
We'll get to a few other things a little bit
later on. I got more soresby thoughts, and we'll talk
about the NBA Finals if we must. First, mister Ace,
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You're on ESPN fifteen thirty. Mister Ace, good afternoon.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
How are you, Homer, Big Homer? I must say, man,
you got me shaking the fast, trying up a little fat,
but a lot of gids are shaking up stuff like
stuff atash Man.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Okay, I like it, man.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
All like I say is the Cincinnati Higgs got me
all shook up, confused, shaped, rattled, and roll like I
got hit with the wrestler finishing move.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Or something like that man from the Honky Tom.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Yes, sir, Oh my gosh, I think I'm just gonna
throw off the wrestler negacycy to catch the drop bad
drop dead twice like somebody used to do the DDT.
That's what it seems like they've been doing. A U
and me.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
That would be Jacob Snick Roberts if it's an if
it's a wrestling reference from before like nineteen ninety nineteen
ninety one, I'm your guy, post nineteen ninety nineteen ninety one,
I'm not your guy.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
And well, maybe we could talk a little bit of
sweet chimneys for the fact that it seems as though
Brandon Soars Me and his jackals have been doing some
flashing cash real fad wow to get him off of
NCAA suspension for a five minutes. But I think that
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somebody from a higher level probably will cobash this whole thing,
maybe like Congress or maybe he's in a higher level
court because storys we shouldn't be playing man, I mean
between him and the underachievement coach up there for football,
and you see, I really would say, I mean, he
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does not deserve to play. I know that they'll talk
about having like gambling game and issue for him. Understand
the way, you just have to also say some of
that was a choice, was very much a choice, and
he knew what he was doing every time he did answered.
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He's not sorry about the fact that he did it.
He's sorry about the fact he got quiet. And that's
the reality of the matter. And of course Texas text
is trying to sympathize with that, but I'm gonna save
your fire for when you have that discussion coming up.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Well, thank you. This is black and white. He broke
an established rule, and he did so willingly and knowingly.
That should come with consequence. I am sympathetic and empathetic
to addiction. I know people who have who are alcoholics.
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I know people who have lost their jobs and their
families because they're alcoholics. I understand what that addiction and
what that disease can do to you. I admire people
who do their best to overcome it. Some folks I
know have, some have not. But you can't show up
to work drunk, and if you do, the people you
work for might understand you are dealing with an addiction.
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But you can't show up to work junk. That's going
to have consequences. I apply the same principle to Brendan
Soresby here. I hope he conquers his demons. I have
no reason to root against him. But if you have
clearly established rules, which the NCAA does, and you knowingly
and willingly violate, you should suffer the consequence that's clearly
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outlined in those rules, where you lose eligibility. Do I
think Brendan's a bad guy. Absolutely not do I hope
any ill will toward him.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
No, No, there's no reason to.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
But I would say this if Brendan sores be played
for U see right now, I would say this if
it was my own son. You did something that the
rule state you cannot do, and if you do it,
here are the consequences.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
You should suffer those consequences.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Right, And it does come down from accountability standpoint. I
mean people lacking accountability these days, people really not being
as transparent with stuff. I mean, it leads to a
lot of ambiguity, It leads to a whole lot of
I mean, I think this is a waste of time
considering like you have college players did in something they
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did not ever have. I mean, I'd say you've had
way more talented players who if they were getting paid
back in today, it's no telling where things would be
at this point. But I mean, you look back at
guys like a Charley Wards. You look back at the
guys like I mean Bobby Surah from Florida State who
both went on to pro careers. You look at guys
like I mean even rocket Ishmael. You look at guys
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like I mean all the players that came out of
UC in Ohio State. I mean, shoot, even our own
Tony Pike. I mean, if they were able to get
some of the money that players are able to get
now by nil deals, it's no telling where stuff would be.
But I think because the NCAA has always not wanted
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to have this day come where players were compensated, and
now that it's a reality, I mean thanks to Ed
O'Bannon and some of the other players like so and
for their likenesses being used on video games, I think
that that started some of the cracks in the foundation,
which eventually led to the full nil deals being available now.
But I mean, you have so much of a different landscape,
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and because the NCAA ran from it and did not
try and come with a way to really structure it mode,
we're dealing with the wild, wild West right now. And unfortunately,
I think it was schools, like a lot of the
SEC schools that were always doing some under the table deals.
You had real life stuff like the program and Blue
Ships that was happening in real time.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, you know, I think everything you said I agree with.
I think what makes this difference here is I think
a lot of it said all right, acknowledging that you know,
it is the wild West, and acknowledging that there are
very few guardrails as it relates to player movement, player compensation,
coach movement, acknowledging that there are very few rules.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
That can be enforced when it comes to eligibility.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
That the one thing we could all agree on, one
of the foundational pieces was if a student athlete makes
wagers on a team that he is a part of,
that comes with loss of eligibility. And that piece going
away pretty much blows up the nc double A. And
I hate to be overreactionary about anything, but like there's
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I think what's so sobering about yesterday is all. I
felt like we all sort of agreed, like, all right,
things are maybe a little bit too out of control,
and yes, maybe we've arrived at the point where we
need Congress to help the NCAA establish some rules that
have been blown up. But this one thing we all
agree you're not allowed to do, and if you do it,
it carries with it punishment that's been blown up. And
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so now no organization is any good if it can't
enforce its own rules.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
The courts have told the NC double A.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
You can't enforce your own rules, so I don't know
from an organizational standpoint where.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
We go from here.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Well, no, I think that that's just grabbing our popcorn
buckets and seeing what's about to be happening now, because
I think it's going to be a rough snup kickoff
for college foot other than the best baby, I guess
less than forty five days.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
And a half months, good camp, Yep, we'll see, all right,
mister is good at talking to him.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Good here right, Yes, last.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
If if I if I, if I had any A
W tickets, God knows, I'm not going to use them,
so they'd be all yours, thank you sir.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
All right, but.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
See what I could do? It's a quarter to four.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, Like you know, I've I've I've watched people on
social media and I've I've listened to folks try to
rationalize what Brendan Sorosby did. And like, if you want
to say that the rule should be changed and a
student athlete should be allowed to make wagers on college sports,
I don't agree, but okay, that's a conversation. If you
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want to say that a student athlete should be allowed
to make wagers on games that he or she is
involved in. I could not disagree more but okay, we
could have that discussion. What's not up for discussion is
did Brendan soores Be break a rule and did that
rule carry with it very very clearly stated consequences if
it's broken, The answer is yes. If you want to
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say there should be more education for student athletes about
the perils of gambling, let's go.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I'm in. I'm one thousand percent on board with that.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
If you want to have conversations about, well, are some
schools and their broadcast partners a little bit too in
bed with online wagering companies? Okay, fine, but this is
this is very very simple and cut and dry for me.
He broke a rule. When you break rules, there should
be accountability. The accountability involved here was very clearly stated
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and articulated, and a court just blew it up. This
is awful for the NCAA, but it's great for college football.
We'll explain next.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic from.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
The UC from four This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Moegg
or more of your phone calls later on, and Joe
Burrow and the Bengals restructures contract red still can't field
a bunt, And the question I would be asking if
I were Phil Castellini coming up on Brendan Soorsby here
really quick. Our guy Stewart wed Penrose, our sports legal
(30:28):
expert from the Manila Law Group, is going to join
us at four thirty five. When you're an organization and
you're told by a court you can't enforce your own rules,
that's bad.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
So there is the ncublea part of this.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
This is bad for the NCUBA. Brendan Soresby being allowed
to play, though, let's be honest about this is awesome
for college football. So I've read that the Big Twelve
chancellors and presidents and athletic directors, they've huddled together. There
was a statement from Brett Yormark, the Big Twelve commissioner,
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earlier this afternoon that basically said we're gonna keep those.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Discussions in house.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
What the discussion should have centered around is this, how
do we capitalize on this. Look, Brendan Soorsby right now
is college football's biggest villain. It's not that often that
one of college football's biggest villains is a player. This
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is something that college football can lean into look man.
At the end of the day, sports are about characters.
They're about characters, real life characters. Most characters in college
football are coaches, athletic directors, university presidents, conference commissioners, frankly,
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very rarely players. Brendan Soorsby is the biggest name among players,
at least in college football right now. Name for me,
other big twelves starting quarterback. Name for me, one other
big twelve skilled position player. Brendan Soorsby plays his first
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game for Texas Tech. If things stay where they are
where he's eligible, gonna miss the first two games. The
first game is going to be against Houston on a
Friday night. I'll watch, and I would watch had Brennan
Soresby never played at UC. Brennan Soorsby on the road
playing for Texas Tech is must see television. How does
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he handle by the way it was said to me
by somebody who's opinion I really trust last night. For
all the talk of his like mental mental health and
he's got to play college football like his mental health
is going to be tested this season when Texas Tech
goes on the road, certainly going to be tested. The
first time he has a bad game, especially on the road.
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I call it what it is like. There's a central
figure in college football right now, there are sports the
NBA Finals last night, excuse me, the two biggest villains
were all the idiots in New York attacking Spurs fans
and Victor Wembin Yama. I'd rather talk about him, And
after last night, all anybody talked about was he's now
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a New York sports villain. Great central figure in the series,
a character. You may love him, you may start to
hate him. Whatever, there's a central character. Sports are about characters.
Sports are at their most fun when we have good
guys and bad guys, when there are people that are
polarizing that we could take sides over. For all of
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the notoriety the college athletes get, for as much more
compensated as they are right now, for as much as
they're treated like pros year to year, there aren't that
many characters that cross over into the mainstream. My wife
knows who Brendan Sooresby is. My mom knows who Brendan
Sooresby is. There are folks who will be paying attention
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to Texas Tech football that ordinarily wouldn't be paying attention
by the way the homecoming game you see versus Texas Tech.
It's got a hell of a lot more punch to it.
If Brendan Soorsby plays than if he doesn't. This is
bad for the NCAA. But if you're carrying Texas Tech football,
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if you have Texas Tech football team coming to your stadium,
this is tremendous. And so okay, do hand ringing over
the NCAA not being allowed to enforce its own rules. Fine,
I'm with you there, But okay, As fans, you know,
we're entertained by the sport.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
We're drawn by characters. It's fun to have villains.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
It's fun to have central figures, fun to have people
to root against, fun to have people to root for.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
There's not a bigger villain in the sport, which means
there's none a more villainist team or a bigger villain
team in the sport than Texas Tech. Yes, this is great,
And I know the NCAA is not gonna look at
it that way, and I know a lot of these
holier than now folks aren't gonna look at it that way.
And like, legally, I think Brendan Sorosby should be punished,
but he's not. Okay, if you're the Big twelve, capitalize
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on it. Brendan Sorosby now should be marketed. I'm not joking,
by the way. This has a chance to be really, really, really.
This is the central storyline in the sport. Like Fernando
Mendez is not coming back to play college football, the
central storyline in the sport is all about Brendan Sorosby.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
This is ESPN fifteen thirty
ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station. The Bengals have done
it again. What's up.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Good afternoon at Moegger. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Thank
you so much for listening. I hope we're having an
awesome Tuesday afternoon. Paul Danner Junior is not here because
he's working today. He's down there at the venue originally
known as Paul Brown Stadium, and so he is going
to be with us a special five o'clock Paul Danner
(00:27):
Junior appearance tomorrow. We are looking forward to that, and
we'll have something to discuss beyond.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
OTAs and the ordinary.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
According to Ian Rappaport and Adam Schefter of ESPN, the
Bengals and Joe Burrow have restructured Joe's contract that will
create a little cap flexibility for the Bengals. It's going
to create about ten million dollars in cap room. I'll
read Ian Rappaport's tweet here. The move allows Sincy to
(00:57):
operate without putting themselves in a tough spot cap wise.
He continues doing part to the cash needed for the
Dexter Lawrence trade. This is, to the best of my recollection,
something they've never done. And this has been an offseason
defined by the Bengals doing things that you typically do
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not expect them to do. You typically do not expect
the Bengals even if the quarterback, and in Joe Burrow's case,
this was the case, if the player is willing to
do a restructure, Bengals still don't do it.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
They do it here.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I don't know that that's going to mean any seismic
change for the rest of this offseason, but it does
create a little bit more flexibility that was going to
be needed moving forward. And so I think there's two
major takeaways here. One, the Bengals continue to do things
that you don't expect them to do. That is awesome
because one of the biggest complaints is always the unwillingness
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to evolve, the unwillingness to step out of their own
organizational comfort zone. They did it with the Dexter Lawrence trade.
They've done it here with Joe Burrow. It's also and
Joe has made it known that he's willing to do this.
And this is a year for the Bengals that's going
to be defined by a lot of different things, right,
It's going to be defined by can the moves they
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made payoff. Can Zach Taylor stay employed? What's it going
to mean for the coaching staff? What's it going to
mean for other players looking to get paid? But Man,
more than anything else, how much will these success or
a lack thereof change quiet or even amplify the chatter
about Joe Burrow and his future? That's a storyline this year,
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whether you want to admit it or not. And trust me, man,
I can get very tired along with a lot of
folks here with the unending psychoanalysis of Joe Burrow. And
there are a lot of bad takes out there when
it comes to Joe Burrow and his future. That said,
we've done this now for a couple of years, watching him,
you know, express his frustration, We've watched his body language,
(03:05):
We've heard the things that he's had to say. We
understand the history of this franchise. When it comes to
players asking out, specifically that quarterback, it would certainly suggest
the fact that Joe and the Bengals did this and
worked on this and got this done together. That in
itself would suggest that Joe is in a pretty good
place when it comes to his relationship right now with
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the Bengals with the people who own the team, with
the people.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Who run the team.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Obviously, they haven't played a game yet, the season is
still far off. The first time there's adversity, maybe that
changes the conversation. If this season goes sideways, if expectations
aren't met, maybe that changes things. But this, the fact
that they worked on this together would suggest that there's
a pretty good working relationship between the player and the team.
(03:55):
That can't be anything but a good thing. So Iron
and Adam Scheffer both worked on that together. Bengals and
Joe Burrow restructured contract. This is something that he has
expressed publicly a willingness to do. Creates ten million dollars
in cap space, something that they simply do not do.
(04:17):
And we've joked about this on this show, We've joked
about it on the Tony and Mo Football Show that
it would be awesome if we could all get away
from like that as an explanation as to why the
Bengals might not do something. Oh, it's just not something
they do, right, It's just not something they do. How
about trade away the tenth overall pick for a two
time All Pro defensive lineman.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
That's just not something they do well, they did it
this year.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
How about doing the restructure with your quarterback, with your
best player, with the face of your franchise.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, that's just not something they do.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
If we can shorten the list, or even better get
rid of the list of things that the Bengals simply
do not do, that would be awesome. And it's off
seasons like this that enable you to be able to
do that. So more reaction across the course of the afternoon,
a little bit more cap space for the Bengals, and
they were going to need some flexibility. They've gotten some
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here and they've gotten it thanks to number nine. This
is a really, really positive and fun development. Eleven minutes
after three o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. My name
is Mowgar. Thank you so much for listening. Our show
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about it at share facts dot org and find out
what those folks can do for you. If you are
looking to safely and securely get rid of your old
personal documents. We've got some Brendan Soresby stuff. We've got
to get to a little bit later on. The Brendan
Sowersby story that kind of broke yesterday is awful for
(06:00):
the NCAA, but it is great for college football. We'll
get to that a little bit later on. We'll spend
a few moments on the NBA Finals. Reds lose last
night in a game that can we call it the
misplayed bunt game?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Tara, do you have for me.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So we could all torture ourselves the montage of misplayed
San Diego bunts in the ballgame last night? Well, we'll
have that a little bit later on. Apparently, Reds lose
their fifth consecutive game. They waste a good starting outing
by Andrew Abbott, they fall apart because they can't field
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a bunt, and a game that was very much there
for the taking becomes the latest in a long line
of frustrating games, frustrating outcomes, and games that pull them
further and further away from first place.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
The Reds as we stand.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Right now, are ten and a half games out of
first place after a six to two loss last night,
with San Diego scoring the three runs to put them
in front. The bunt inning in the bottom of the eighth,
ten and a half games at a first place on
June ninth. Now, a lot of that is a statement
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about the Milwaukee Brewers, who we should talk about today,
but it's also a damning indictment of the Cincinnati Reds.
And if I would have said to you or anybody
else three months ago that it'd be the second Tuesday
of June and the Reds will be in last place,
ten and a half at a first place, three under
five hundred, you probably would have said, there is no way.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And yet here we are.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
The question is now, and you hate to do this
this early in the season, how much worse is this
going to get? And I think the last time we
asked that was too twenty two. Now, the Reds lost
one hundred games that season. I don't think any of
us believe they're going to lose one hundred games this year.
This does seem to be a better team, although they
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have today the second toughest remaining schedule in all of
Major League Baseball. But the last time we did this
was April of twenty twenty two. I remember it vividly.
That was the year Opening Day was later because of
the lockout. They started two and two, and then they
went on to lose what twenty of their next twenty
one games.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
They were three and twenty.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Two and twenty five games into the season, season over,
season over, and I remember in those first three or
four weeks asking often how much worse is this going
to get? It may get better, it probably will, but
by the time it does, how bad will it be?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Now?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
For that team that year, it was abundantly clear that
the only real mystery, only real suspense for the entire season,
We're about two things. One, what were they gonna get
for the guys they ended up trading like Luis Castillo
and Tyler Mallley later that season? The two could they
avoid one hundred losses? The Reds are not gonna lose
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one hundred games this year. But it is sobering beyond
belief that we are doing things this season, and we
are asking things this season that we haven't done and
haven't asked since the season in which they lost all
hundred games? How much worse is this gonna get? And
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part of that's something you could ask.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Because of the injuries, and the injuries are what they are,
God knows. We've talked about them to death.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Part of that is what you could ask about this
team because of the just lack of reliable options in
the bullpen. Part of it is something you could ask
about this team because the roster just doesn't have enough
guys who are good and established and in their prime.
Not a very good baseball team, not a very good
baseball team. And it's a team that from a talent perspective,
has a low ceiling. But it's a team that because
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of that has to play damn near perfect baseball.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
When they got off to the twenty and.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Eleven start, think what stood out more than anything, where
first of all, they played clean ball. They were very
good defensively, took them forever to make their first air
of the season. They didn't give away ouse, they didn't
give away bases, they didn't do dumb things too, very
good bullpen work. Both of those things have evaporated. Defense
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failed him in Saint Louis. Bullpen failed him in Saint Louis.
Defense failed him last night. Bullpen failed him last night.
So yeah, man, you could wonder when's it going to
get better or how's it going to get better? I've
asked often over the last ten days or so, how
does this get fixed. Now we're to the point where
we are wondering how much worse can it get? And
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the last time any one of us really asked that question,
this team was in route to losing one hundred games
by the middle of the decade. I think all of
us hoped that we would be no longer channeling twenty
twenty two. And yet here we are, sixteen minutes after
three o'clock. Our phone lines are open, we're guests free
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until four thirty five, one, three, seven, four nine fifteen
thirty is our number? Eight six six, seven oh two
three seven seven six. Meanwhile, a familiar theme atop the
National League Central I've got a little bit of an idea,
maybe a dumb one. I'll run it past you. Next
on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
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Call five, one, three, five, eighty five. UCCC layings down, seventy.
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Five, struck out, twelve, walk four and they're expecting a
bun and they get one right now on the third
base line. There's a first basement in pictures sliding and
it'll be nobody out. As Antone and South Stewart both
went after the ball at the same time. There was
no way that Stewart was gonna be able to clean
it pick.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It cleanly, and he threw late the first dase.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
On a three one count. Here is a pitch by Antone.
It is punted on the ground to the first base side,
a pair handed sent by South Sport. He bobbles it
and it will be a everybody safe situation. Davin Sheets
comes in from third, Chase Bowen goes to second base,
and the batter some odd Taylor ends up at first base.
(12:41):
Stewart playing in swore as the third playing in. They're
gonna punt again, and this one is out in front
of home fight right to the picture and he bobbles
it and there's nobody gonna make a play. Three times
in a row the Padres have put a punt down
in the infield, and three times in a row the
Red defenders can't get handle on the baseball.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
And there you go.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Chris Wells Reds Radio Network and seven hundred WLW last
night giving you The description of the three consecutive bunts
and the eighth inning that the Reds could not field
in Round two, a six to two loss to the
Padres last night, just just pathetic. I can't sugarcoat it.
I'm not going to sugarcoat it. There's no other way
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of putting it. And look, man, maybe it's a bad inning.
Maybe those things happen on a good team. This is
not a good team right now, and so your mistakes
get amplified and we make more out of them when
you're not a very good team. Last night looked like
straight out of twenty twenty two. I had really hoped
that this year we wouldn't be talking about anything related
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to twenty twenty two. Instead, that's where we are. More
on that coming up momentarily. More Bengals news. This is
good news. The Bengals have signed cash is how the
team's second round draft choice from Texas A and M
he signs his contracts. Cincinnati has now signed each of
their seven selections in the twenty twenty six NFL Draft.
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So just really quick, think about where we are now
in relation to where we were a year ago. A
year ago at this time, what dominated the discourse Trey
Hendrickson and Shamar Stewart. You may blame the Bengals for
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those things. You may blame Trey Hendrickson and Shamar Stewart
for those things. You may blame their representation, but that's inarguable.
At this point a year ago, it was why hasn't
Schamar signed? What sort of stuff is he gonna say?
Why are these two sides so far apart? How much
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of this is gonna hurt his rookie season, how much
of this is gonna hurt the team? And then the
Trey Hendrickson circus, which just took a life of its own.
A year later, the quarterback and the team just did
something that the team has never done. They've done a
restructure of Joe Burrow's contract, gonna save him about ten
million dollars against the cap, create a little bit more flexibility.
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The only possible downside to the Dexter Lawrence deal was
you started to look long term and it's like, all right,
how inflexible are they gonna be? Now they've got a
little bit of wiggle room.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Which is great.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So you have them doing more stuff that they've never
done before. Meanwhile, and I read Paul Diner Junior today
and he joins US tomorrow. DJ Turner at OTAs. If
there is a guy on the team that you could
maybe maybe rationalize, I don't want to say pulling a
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Tray Hendricks in but using some leverage to get a
new deal, it would be DJ Turner, I think, arguably
the best defensive player who returns from last year's team,
a guy who is an ascending player in this league,
a guy who is, you know, one of the candidates
to be a breakthrough star in twenty twenty twenty six,
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and he showed a lot of those characteristics last year.
Nobody is going to anoint somebody a star playing on
a bad team with a bad defense. But DJ Turner
played really well last season, played well enough that you
look at him as one of those pieces you want
to move forward with for the rest of the decade.
We'll see what that deal looks like. DJ Turner's at
OTA's Dax Hill has been a participant in the offseason program.
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There's no rumbling of discontent from Miles Murphy, and you
might have expected it from him, but none. No rumblings
of discontent from Chase Brown. Things can change. Training camp
is still a month and a half away. Maybe there's
something that pops up. Maybe somebody's agent gets into their
ear and says, hey, look, once we get to camp,
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maybe do a hold in, Maybe make some noise about
a deal. Nobody that has requested a trade. Nobody is
showing up and grand standing at practice. Nobody, to the
best of my knowledge, is sending vague tweets, vague Instagram posts.
No draft choice is unsigned. Nobody's grand standing at their locker.
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Nobody is saying things that make you wonder what's up
between the team and the player. It is remarkable how
different things are today versus a year ago. Does that
guarantee success, Absolutely not. But think of all those things
that we have spent so much time obsessing over in
the offseason, pretty much all of them not helpful toward
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the goal of winning, and those things, at least to
this point, eliminated entirely. That is extraordinarily refreshing if you're
a fan. It has to be insanely refreshing if you're
Zach Taylor. Twenty nine minutes after three o'clock, a Newsy
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first half hour of the show, Cash is Hal signed,
Joe Burrow and the Bengals restructure a contract and the
Reds maybe taking bunting practice today. I have no idea
bunting fielding practice today. I have no idea. Meanwhile, we've
got the Brendan Soresby thing. We have to discuss. Brendan
Soorsby being allowed to play college football is bad for
(18:21):
the NCAA, but it is awesome for college football. That
coming up in twenty minutes on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.
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The Bengals today, according to Ian Rappaport of ESPN, announced
that the Bengals he announces, he reports, didn'tally announced.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
He reports.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Bengals have restructured the quarterback contract. Why don't I do
this in English? The Bengals have restructured quarterback Joe Burrow's contract,
creating ten million dollars in cap room. So Bengals have
a little bit more flexibility, as our guy, Paul Danner
Junior points out, While nearly every major quarterback contract has
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been restructured to this point. This is the first time
the Bengals have touched Burrows deal since he signed it
in September of twenty twenty three. And as Paul puts
it and he joins us tomorrow in the five o'clock hour,
the wins of change continue to blow in Cincinnati this offseason.
It is, if you understand anything, some of this stuff
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sounds like regular NFL transactional stuff. Teams restructure their quarterback
contracts all the time. Just not here, and you can
make too much out of this if you want. I
just think it's awesome. The Bengals are doing things you
typically don't associate with them. Second round pick Cash's House
signs his contract. All of the Bengals draft choices are
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in the fold. Meanwhile, Reds and Padres again tonight in
San Diego nine first pitch, seven hundred WLW Cincinnati well
stend staff as Chase Burns to the hill against Lucas Giolito.
Starting lineup for the game not out yet, Red's trying
to break a five game losing streak. Florence y'all's take
on the New Jersey Jackals tonight and in Vegas It's
(20:26):
Game four of the NHL Stanley Cup Final. The Golden Knights,
hosting the Hurricanes. Vegas leads the series two games to one.
We'll get to a few other things a little bit
later on. I got more soresby thoughts, and we'll talk
about the NBA Finals if we must. First, mister Ace,
(20:48):
You're on ESPN fifteen thirty. Mister Ace, good afternoon.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
How are you, Homer, Big Homer? I must say, man,
you got me shaking the fast, trying up a little fat,
but a lot of gids are shaking up stuff like
stuff atash Man.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Okay, I like it, man.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
All like I say is the Cincinnati Higgs got me
all shook up, confused, shaped, rattled, and roll like I
got hit with the wrestler finishing move.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Or something like that man from the Honky Tom.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Yes, sir, Oh my gosh, I think I'm just gonna
throw off the wrestler negacycy to catch the drop bad
drop dead twice like somebody used to do the DDT.
That's what it seems like they've been doing. A U
and me.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
That would be Jacob Snick Roberts if it's an if
it's a wrestling reference from before like nineteen ninety nineteen
ninety one, I'm your guy, post nineteen ninety nineteen ninety one,
I'm not your guy.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
And well, maybe we could talk a little bit of
sweet chimneys for the fact that it seems as though
Brandon Soars Me and his jackals have been doing some
flashing cash real fad wow to get him off of
NCAA suspension for a five minutes. But I think that
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somebody from a higher level probably will cobash this whole thing,
maybe like Congress or maybe he's in a higher level
court because storys we shouldn't be playing man, I mean
between him and the underachievement coach up there for football,
and you see, I really would say, I mean, he
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does not deserve to play. I know that they'll talk
about having like gambling game and issue for him. Understand
the way, you just have to also say some of
that was a choice, was very much a choice, and
he knew what he was doing every time he did answered.
(22:42):
He's not sorry about the fact that he did it.
He's sorry about the fact he got quiet. And that's
the reality of the matter. And of course Texas text
is trying to sympathize with that, but I'm gonna save
your fire for when you have that discussion coming up.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Well, thank you. This is black and white. He broke
an established rule, and he did so willingly and knowingly.
That should come with consequence. I am sympathetic and empathetic
to addiction. I know people who have who are alcoholics.
(23:18):
I know people who have lost their jobs and their
families because they're alcoholics. I understand what that addiction and
what that disease can do to you. I admire people
who do their best to overcome it. Some folks I
know have, some have not. But you can't show up
to work drunk, and if you do, the people you
work for might understand you are dealing with an addiction.
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But you can't show up to work junk. That's going
to have consequences. I apply the same principle to Brendan
Soresby here. I hope he conquers his demons. I have
no reason to root against him. But if you have
clearly established rules, which the NCAA does, and you knowingly
and willingly violate, you should suffer the consequence that's clearly
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outlined in those rules, where you lose eligibility. Do I
think Brendan's a bad guy. Absolutely not do I hope
any ill will toward him.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
No, No, there's no reason to.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
But I would say this if Brendan sores be played
for U see right now, I would say this if
it was my own son. You did something that the
rule state you cannot do, and if you do it,
here are the consequences.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
You should suffer those consequences.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Right, And it does come down from accountability standpoint. I
mean people lacking accountability these days, people really not being
as transparent with stuff. I mean, it leads to a
lot of ambiguity, It leads to a whole lot of
I mean, I think this is a waste of time
considering like you have college players did in something they
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did not ever have. I mean, I'd say you've had
way more talented players who if they were getting paid
back in today, it's no telling where things would be
at this point. But I mean, you look back at
guys like a Charley Wards. You look back at the
guys like I mean Bobby Surah from Florida State who
both went on to pro careers. You look at guys
like I mean even rocket Ishmael. You look at guys
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like I mean all the players that came out of
UC in Ohio State. I mean, shoot, even our own
Tony Pike. I mean, if they were able to get
some of the money that players are able to get
now by nil deals, it's no telling where stuff would be.
But I think because the NCAA has always not wanted
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to have this day come where players were compensated, and
now that it's a reality, I mean thanks to Ed
O'Bannon and some of the other players like so and
for their likenesses being used on video games, I think
that that started some of the cracks in the foundation,
which eventually led to the full nil deals being available now.
But I mean, you have so much of a different landscape,
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and because the NCAA ran from it and did not
try and come with a way to really structure it mode,
we're dealing with the wild, wild West right now. And unfortunately,
I think it was schools, like a lot of the
SEC schools that were always doing some under the table deals.
You had real life stuff like the program and Blue
Ships that was happening in real time.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, you know, I think everything you said I agree with.
I think what makes this difference here is I think
a lot of it said all right, acknowledging that you know,
it is the wild West, and acknowledging that there are
very few guardrails as it relates to player movement, player compensation,
coach movement, acknowledging that there are very few rules.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
That can be enforced when it comes to eligibility.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
That the one thing we could all agree on, one
of the foundational pieces was if a student athlete makes
wagers on a team that he is a part of,
that comes with loss of eligibility. And that piece going
away pretty much blows up the nc double A. And
I hate to be overreactionary about anything, but like there's
(27:12):
I think what's so sobering about yesterday is all. I
felt like we all sort of agreed, like, all right,
things are maybe a little bit too out of control,
and yes, maybe we've arrived at the point where we
need Congress to help the NCAA establish some rules that
have been blown up. But this one thing we all
agree you're not allowed to do, and if you do it,
it carries with it punishment that's been blown up. And
(27:33):
so now no organization is any good if it can't
enforce its own rules.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
The courts have told the NC double A.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
You can't enforce your own rules, so I don't know
from an organizational standpoint where.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
We go from here.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Well, no, I think that that's just grabbing our popcorn
buckets and seeing what's about to be happening now, because
I think it's going to be a rough snup kickoff
for college foot other than the best baby, I guess
less than forty five days.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
And a half months, good camp, Yep, we'll see, all right,
mister is good at talking to him.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Good here right, Yes, last.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
If if I if I, if I had any A
W tickets, God knows, I'm not going to use them,
so they'd be all yours, thank you sir.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
All right, but.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
See what I could do? It's a quarter to four.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, Like you know, I've I've I've watched people on
social media and I've I've listened to folks try to
rationalize what Brendan Sorosby did. And like, if you want
to say that the rule should be changed and a
student athlete should be allowed to make wagers on college sports,
I don't agree, but okay, that's a conversation. If you
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want to say that a student athlete should be allowed
to make wagers on games that he or she is
involved in. I could not disagree more but okay, we
could have that discussion. What's not up for discussion is
did Brendan soores Be break a rule and did that
rule carry with it very very clearly stated consequences if
it's broken, The answer is yes. If you want to
(29:18):
say there should be more education for student athletes about
the perils of gambling, let's go.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I'm in. I'm one thousand percent on board with that.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
If you want to have conversations about, well, are some
schools and their broadcast partners a little bit too in
bed with online wagering companies? Okay, fine, but this is
this is very very simple and cut and dry for me.
He broke a rule. When you break rules, there should
be accountability. The accountability involved here was very clearly stated
(29:50):
and articulated, and a court just blew it up. This
is awful for the NCAA, but it's great for college football.
We'll explain next.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic from.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
The UC from four This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Moegg
or more of your phone calls later on, and Joe
Burrow and the Bengals restructures contract red still can't field
a bunt, And the question I would be asking if
I were Phil Castellini coming up on Brendan Soorsby here
really quick. Our guy Stewart wed Penrose, our sports legal
(30:28):
expert from the Manila Law Group, is going to join
us at four thirty five. When you're an organization and
you're told by a court you can't enforce your own rules,
that's bad.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
So there is the ncublea part of this.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
This is bad for the NCUBA. Brendan Soresby being allowed
to play, though, let's be honest about this is awesome
for college football. So I've read that the Big Twelve
chancellors and presidents and athletic directors, they've huddled together. There
was a statement from Brett Yormark, the Big Twelve commissioner,
(31:03):
earlier this afternoon that basically said we're gonna keep those.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Discussions in house.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
What the discussion should have centered around is this, how
do we capitalize on this. Look, Brendan Soorsby right now
is college football's biggest villain. It's not that often that
one of college football's biggest villains is a player. This
(31:29):
is something that college football can lean into look man.
At the end of the day, sports are about characters.
They're about characters, real life characters. Most characters in college
football are coaches, athletic directors, university presidents, conference commissioners, frankly,
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very rarely players. Brendan Soorsby is the biggest name among players,
at least in college football right now. Name for me,
other big twelves starting quarterback. Name for me, one other
big twelve skilled position player. Brendan Soorsby plays his first
(32:13):
game for Texas Tech. If things stay where they are
where he's eligible, gonna miss the first two games. The
first game is going to be against Houston on a
Friday night. I'll watch, and I would watch had Brennan
Soresby never played at UC. Brennan Soorsby on the road
playing for Texas Tech is must see television. How does
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he handle by the way it was said to me
by somebody who's opinion I really trust last night. For
all the talk of his like mental mental health and
he's got to play college football like his mental health
is going to be tested this season when Texas Tech
goes on the road, certainly going to be tested. The
first time he has a bad game, especially on the road.
(33:00):
I call it what it is like. There's a central
figure in college football right now, there are sports the
NBA Finals last night, excuse me, the two biggest villains
were all the idiots in New York attacking Spurs fans
and Victor Wembin Yama. I'd rather talk about him, And
after last night, all anybody talked about was he's now
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a New York sports villain. Great central figure in the series,
a character. You may love him, you may start to
hate him. Whatever, there's a central character. Sports are about characters.
Sports are at their most fun when we have good
guys and bad guys, when there are people that are
polarizing that we could take sides over. For all of
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the notoriety the college athletes get, for as much more
compensated as they are right now, for as much as
they're treated like pros year to year, there aren't that
many characters that cross over into the mainstream. My wife
knows who Brendan Sooresby is. My mom knows who Brendan
Sooresby is. There are folks who will be paying attention
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to Texas Tech football that ordinarily wouldn't be paying attention
by the way the homecoming game you see versus Texas Tech.
It's got a hell of a lot more punch to it.
If Brendan Soorsby plays than if he doesn't. This is
bad for the NCAA. But if you're carrying Texas Tech football,
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if you have Texas Tech football team coming to your stadium,
this is tremendous. And so okay, do hand ringing over
the NCAA not being allowed to enforce its own rules. Fine,
I'm with you there, But okay, As fans, you know,
we're entertained by the sport.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
We're drawn by characters. It's fun to have villains.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
It's fun to have central figures, fun to have people
to root against, fun to have people to root for.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
There's not a bigger villain in the sport, which means
there's none a more villainist team or a bigger villain
team in the sport than Texas Tech. Yes, this is great,
And I know the NCAA is not gonna look at
it that way, and I know a lot of these
holier than now folks aren't gonna look at it that way.
And like, legally, I think Brendan Sorosby should be punished,
but he's not. Okay, if you're the Big twelve, capitalize
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on it. Brendan Sorosby now should be marketed. I'm not joking,
by the way. This has a chance to be really, really, really.
This is the central storyline in the sport. Like Fernando
Mendez is not coming back to play college football, the
central storyline in the sport is all about Brendan Sorosby.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
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