7-9-26 - The Mo Egger Radio Show Hr 2

7-9-26 - The Mo Egger Radio Show Hr 2

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
All right, there you go, three minutes out for four
is ESPN fifteen thirty. Moegger. Thanks for listening today. Hopefully
you're having an Austin Thursday Brendanman and Jones on Baseball
later on this hour. If you're watching the Reds game tonight,
it's a telecast unlike the others you'll watch during the
season because tonight's Telethon Night, Red's Community Fund Telethon on

(00:28):
Red's TV Reds and Phillies tonight at seven to ten.
The telecast will begin at six o'clock. It is your
opportunity to help raise money for the baseball, softball, education
and community building initiatives of the Reds Community Fund, my
favorite Tri state charitable organization. The executive director, our longtime friend,

(00:49):
Charlie Frank, who's with us. Now, how are you, sir?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
I'm doing well.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Mo.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
How you doing I'm doing well? Telethon Night. Does that
mean you have to wear makeup?

Speaker 5 (01:00):
No, it wouldn't help, trust me, But yeah, not at all.
We're going to be hustling all around the ballparker. We're
going to be trying to for the last few years,
actually take it not just over the year on Red TV,
but have some impact on the iHeartMedia Empire down the
dial on seven hundred, and also really make an effort
to tell our stories in the ballpark. That was something

(01:23):
that we missed for the first decade.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Of doing this.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
So the vignettes that you'll see in that expanded pregame
show will also run pregame here at the ballpark, and
you'll see a lot of our kids and coaches throughout
the night doing different things, and our strength and conditioning
coach at the academy will even be singing the anthems.
So yeah, we have overthought this a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I like it. And what I like about this is
and you and I talk periodically throughout the year about
different fundraising events or different things that people can get
involved in and how they can help raise money. But
I love it when you tell the stories. I love
it when we hear the stories of not just the
kids that the RCF is impacting now, but the positive
impact that the RCF has had on folks who are

(02:05):
adults now and the role that baseball played in their lives.
And and so I think tonight is a really cool
night for some of those stories to be told on television,
on radio, and inside the ballpark.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, I really hope.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
So. I mean, the fundraising is vitally important for us.
It's one of our biggest, you know, revenue events of
the year. But to your point, Mo, this is a
unique opportunity. How many nonprofits have a chance to weave
their stories into you know, a live sports telecast. It's
it's an incredible privilege and we've learned a lot over
the years. I can tell you the first time we

(02:39):
did this back in two thousand and eight, we used
we added a game to the telecast schedule. There was
no TV commercial inventory. Every break was another community fund,
coach or kid or story. And by the end of
the game I hated the community five. It was just
way too much. So we've really learned that, you know,

(03:00):
people are tuning in to watch baseball, to watch the Reds,
they want to learn a little bit about us. We
need to be really choiceful and intentional about the stories
we tell, and we got to blended into.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
The best of our ability.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
We've got a great production team on Red TV, led
by Josh Hall, who's you know, been producing Red games
for a long time and you know, from Jim Day
and John Sadact, Barry Larkin, Brian Keas and Slough family cure.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
We're lucky.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
We've got a great crew to help us reinforce the
message throughout the game.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
All right, So it'll start on Red's TV at six o'clock,
the ballgames night at seven ten at Great American Ballpark.
And you know, I years ago, when I was in college, Charlie,
I answered phones for a Channel sixteen telethon at the
University of Dayton. I did this because a part of
a student group that I was involved, and we had
to go and I shove you, Jeff, you show up

(03:50):
a Channel sixteen answer phones. And I remember I got
on TV and I tried to cram donuts in my
face so my roommates could see it. But if folks
would call in and make pledges and we would send
a like an umbrella or a toad bag, you guys
are doing much better than umbrellas and toadbags.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
Yeah, we've you know, we've benchmarked you know the teams
that have really utilized these uh you know, these dedicated telecasts.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Better than the others.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
And what we learned was most of them are tying
it into some sort of you know, gift package and
apparel bundle, and we've been doing that now for about
a decade. I would say this year's is about as
good as we've ever done. This red Seemed hockey hoodie. Yes,
may not be right for July weather, as I was
just telling Karen, but it is. It is super cool.

(04:38):
I'm hearing from tons of people today and you know,
these one online. We typically you know, we'll start promoting
it online about two days in advance. We have already sold,
let's see over close to three hundred of these things,
and we got about fifteen hundred packages to sell in
order for us to make budgets. That's typically what we
do each year, and they are already moving quickly because

(05:00):
again I think this hoodie is so cool. And we
got the Joe Morgan bobblehead that has the spring you know,
with his elbow, so we can do the little chicken
wing you know that Joe did, of course before every pitch.
And it's a fifty year anniversary if Joe went in
the second of you know, two back to back MVP
Awards for the world champion Big Red Machine team. So

(05:22):
we love honoring Joe as a part of this package,
there's also a hat. There is a red Community Fund
T shirt. The hat is really cool. I mean it's
this is for one hundred and twenty five dollars to
help the Community Fund. We really believe that fans will
enjoy getting this back as.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
A way for us to say thank you.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
And if you double down for two point fifty, you
get that same package with an authenticated autograph baseball and
a display case. And you know, you can pick from
a list that includes l E. Chase, Burns, Hunter Green,
Cell Stewart, while supplies Laft. So not a bad way
to assist the Community.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Fund even more.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, and I posted a photo of the All Star bundle.
The hockey jersey is awesome. So this is all for
the Reds Community Fund the telethon tonight and I linked
to this. I linked to it because I sent a
post about the event tonight. You also have some like
experience auctions that are up for grabs tonight. Tell me
about them.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
Yeah, you know, we've been coying with this idea for
a while. Our Red's authentics team uses the MLB auction site.
They do a phenomenal job and we're grateful for their efforts.
First time that we're doing this and we figured we'd
make it a part of the telethon. You can find
information about the three experiences if you go to Reds
dot com slash Telethon. You can also buy packages there

(06:40):
if you won't be watching or listening or at the
game tonight, but these three items that you reference mo.
One of them is a one hour catching lesson with
Platinum Glove winners and great Guy Jose Travino. And then
there's also an hour long hitting lesson if you're eighteen
or under at least a person getting the hitting lesson.

(07:01):
It'll be with the Reds player and with Red coaches.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
And then we also have.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
A behind the scenes day with the broadcast team, not
just the Jim Day on the TV side, but also
Tommy Frawl Jeff Brantley on the radio side. You'll get
some behind the scenes access there before the game and
during the game, both in the broadcast booths on TV
and radio with the Reds. So some really cool items.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
If you want to look at.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
Those directly, you can go to Reds dot com slash
rcf Auction Singular, but you can also find it on
our telephone page.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
So I'm not. I'm long since past the age of eighteen.
I can't take the hitting lesson.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
We could probably figure something out, but yet, you know,
talking about makeup, it may require some creativity. We'll see, moo.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
You're worth it.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well, well, you know, I can use lessons on a
lot of different things. So tonight at six o'clock Red's TV,
and then different components of this inside the ballpark and
on radio. What else do we need to know?

Speaker 5 (08:03):
Well, you know, I want to let you know something
cool that happened at the Academy on Monday and Sunday
this past week. Hoti Travino, who I mentioned with being generous.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
With that hitting lesson, He worked with.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
A travel team out of his home hometown of Corpus Christi, Texas,
and he and he and Will Benson. Will works with
a similar group out of his hometown in Atlanta. They
had planned for a while for their teams to come
up to Cincinnati, get a tour at the ballpark, come
to a couple of games.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
They ended up playing three games at the Youth Academy
over two days. Hunter Green came up and worked with
all the kids over about you know, three hours. Monday morning,
Matt McLean came up. We've never had anything like this.
I mean, you know, to watch the work, the familiarity,
the time that they spend with these kids. The stands
were packed because both groups traveled.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Will's mom and dad were well.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
Will's mom was running the scoreboard and did a pretty
pretty good job.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
I mean, it's just one.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
Of these unique moments that you know, that we get
to experience at our Youth County because we have such
a connected clubhouse, because this organization really believes in the.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Work that's being done in the community.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
And you know, tonight we're going to be able to
share stories like that. We're going to be able to
share the story of our field dedication back in April
and South Ripley, Indiana, the first big, major field renovation that.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
We've done in Southeast Indiana.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
We'll be telling the story of our Little Sluggers program,
which is coach Pitch t Ball eight U nine. You
it is so fun to see these kids and coaches.
We're in the game the right way, not rush through it,
really try to appreciate the game in a way that's
hard to teach today. And of course, so many of
our RBI kids and leaders and our scholars are going

(09:52):
to be on the field part of a parade today.
There's so much community fun. Again, I hope it's done
in a tasteful way so that if you're watching the game, listening,
sending the game, that it's something that you enjoy that
doesn't overwhelm. But we couldn't do this without the support
of Red fans, and we're grateful for everyone taking a
look at this telethon page and hopefully enjoying. These items

(10:12):
are available tonight.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
You guys do awesome stuff, and I know this is
a huge night for the Reds Community Fund, so enjoy it.
Best of luck and thank you as always.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well, thank you.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
We really appreciate all your support.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
You got it man, Thanks so much. That's Charlie Frank,
the executive director of the Reds Community Fund. I posted
a link on Twitter to the RCF Community Fund Telethon
which is happening tonight, and was able to get my
hands on some of the All Star Bundle items. The
hockey jersey is awesome. I've never owned a hockey jersey before.

(10:45):
Hockey jersey is awesome. It'll be a part of the
radio broadcast on seven hundred WLW Part of Reds TV,
and if you're going to the ballpark tonight, they will
fold in some of the initiatives during the ballpark experience
Reds and Phillies, with hopefully Sinnati getting a series victory
after winning last night. Fourteen minutes after four o'clock, this

(11:06):
is ESPN fifteen thirty on Moegar five point three seven
four nine fifteen thirty is our number eight sixty six
seven zero two three seven seven six an off season
unlike any other in Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
This is ESPN fifteen thirty Moegar Wise Money Sports in
just about twenty minutes, Brendaman and Jones on Baseball in
about thirty five. The new ad at NKU is going
to join us in one hour. Phills and Reds tonight
at GABP. More on them and that coming up here

(11:46):
in just a bit. By the way we are looking
at it across the room here, we are twenty twenty
days away, less than three weeks away from the Bengals
first training camp practice, which means we are three weeks
just under three weeks away from our first training camp broadcast,

(12:07):
Twenty days away our first training camp broadcast, which is
something we started doing last year. It is an absolute blast.
I'll just really quick. For years, for years and years
and years and years, Bengals would practice in the afternoon
and I'd be here doing a show. And We've you know,
for years Tony Pike has been doing training camp updates

(12:29):
for us. And I'm not a big fomo guy in life.
I don't get fomo. I don't really believe in jealousy.
I don't believe in it. That doesn't mean I'm never jealous,
but I would sit here many afternoons and go, dude,
I want to be down there. I'm going to be
broadcasting from that. Training Camp's fun. Training Camp's a lot
of fun. And we worked it out with the Bengals

(12:52):
last year to do live broadcasts from training camp, except
they moved the practices to the morning. So I'm thinking, great,
I can go to the practices now, but can't broadcast
from them. And then we figured we could broadcast in
the morning, and so we bumped off for a couple
of hours the ESPN Radio programming and did shows from
training camp and it was awesome. And then when they

(13:12):
would practice in the afternoon, I would be down there
and just something I've I've always wanted to do, and
I think you can glean some things from watching practices
and being around that you could apply to, you know,
talking about the team during the season. So I am
I can't wait for the season to start. I don't
want to wish summer away, but can't wait for the
season to start. And professionally, it is a thrill beyond

(13:36):
belief to get a chance to broadcast from training camp
and it's something I hope we can do for years.
Bengals owe me. The Bengals owe me, like not just
a great season, but an interesting one and one that
there's just filled with stuff because for the last two
months there hasn't been anything, and that is a credit

(14:00):
to them. Today is the first day, maybe since I
started hosting this show. Today is the first day. One
of the first things I sit down is I in
the morning, I'll just sit down and jot down four
or five ideas. There are four or five things I
know I want to discuss no matter what, and then
you know, begin the meticulous process of preparing for the

(14:23):
show and planning it out and all that sort of stuff.
Today was the first day that I didn't even try
to come up with a Bengals topic. And that's not
to say that there aren't things that are aren't on
your mind or aren't on my mind, but like there's
there's no there there. And this is a statement about

(14:44):
how awesome this offseason has been. I did this last week.
We were talking about I think it was Seth Walder
great of the Bengals off season moves A C. I disagree.
I would go with a minus. It's only getting a
minus because of what they haven't done at linebacker. The
off season as a whole, A plus, A plus because

(15:04):
off seasons aren't just about transactions. Off seasons are about
you know, guys returning from injury, how their rehab is going,
Players who are using the off season to campaign for
a trade or a new contract, and you know, using
whatever means necessary to get it, doing things that kind
of get in the way of planning for the season
or getting ready for the season. There's been none of that.

(15:27):
There's been no major off field issue, knock on wood,
There's been no controversy. Like the most controversial thing this
offseason might be when we find out who's making the
Ring of Honor, and that's really not going to be
that controversial. It's going to be something that is hopefully
done to celebrate two guys. Hopefully among the older players
who get in, there's been nothing and professionally, you know,

(15:54):
Trey Hendrickson and Shamar Stewart last year made the job
very very very very easy. It ain't like I'm sitting
here digging ditches, but it made the job very very
very very very easy. I like it quite frankly when
we could do shows where we can mix in a
little bit of everything. I don't love it when it's
three hours on the Reds or three hours on the Bengals,
although sometimes they are and have to be. They've had

(16:16):
to be here recently because there's just been no meat
on the bone, and that's usually offseason meat on the
bone once you get past free agency in the draft.
The meat on the bone is sometimes not always Sometimes
bad stuff like a player being upset, a player holding out,
a player being a distraction, a player grandstanding, a player

(16:40):
giving quotes that don't help the team but fuel a
show like mine, like Shamar Stewart last year during Mini Caamp,
like nothing I even toyed with doing a bit had
the Reds lost last night. I was going to do
a social media video where I pleaded for a Bengals
player to ask for a train for purely selfish reasons. No,

(17:03):
as a fan, none of us want that. But as
a talk show host, Hell, yes, as somebody, and I'm
willing to admit this whose livelihood thrives on controversy, Yes,
sign me up. Nothing there, which leads us to the
ultimate lack of excuse for Zach Taylor. I have, and

(17:26):
maybe much much more than most, maybe much more than you.
I've been willing to cut Zach Taylor some slack the
last couple of years because I feel like his job
during training camp has been really hard and maybe a
little bit less so last year because Trey did show
up early ish and Schamar showed up early ish after

(17:48):
a weird first few months as a professional football player.
But the last couple of years there's been just things
hovering over the preseason and things hovering over the run
up to this season that Zach Taylor has had to
answer for that are really shouldn't fall under his umbrella,
Like contracts, like players asking for trades this year, none

(18:11):
of it, none of it. We've talked a little bit
about Zach Taylor in Hot Seeds, Zach Taylor has been
set up for success, maybe unlike any coach in the
history of this team. Seriously, certainly set up for success
more than at any point during his tenure. Now, that
doesn't mean the Bengals have a you know, completely whole

(18:32):
free roster. It doesn't mean that there are legitimate questions about,
you know, some of the things that may unfold during
training camp. All though I don't think it's that hard
to figure out who's going to be on the fifty
three man roster. But there's like just nothing there getting
in the way of him getting the team ready for
the season. And that could change. Obviously, maybe somebody does

(18:57):
something that's unforeseen and pops off about their lack of
a deal. Obviously there are some guys we're going to
talk about the merits of getting something done with them.
We all know what that list of players looks like,
we all know who's on it. But we did We
did a lot in free agency. Obviously, the Dexter Lawrence
thing was a game changer. In the offseason, there was
the draft, there was a schedule release, and really since

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the schedule lease, you know, aside from Joe Burrow expressing
his you know just I think excitement and the fact
that he's re energized and telling us all about it.
Beyond that, there's not been a lot there and as
a fan, exceptionally refreshing. As a talk show host, makes
the job a little bit more difficult if you're the

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coach of the team, Dude, you can't ask for anything more.
But it does enhance the pressure on you to deliver
this season because stuff created by players and issues that
should be kind of the domain of the front office
haven't been on your radar haven't been on your plate
at all. It's got refreshing It does, I think, amplify

(20:02):
the pressure on the head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals.
Twenty nine minutes after four o'clock. There are a few
business lessons we can learn from stuff happening right now
in sports. We'll get to all them. Wise Money Sports
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Kelsey chev dot Com Reds and Phillies the rubber match
of the three game series tonight at GABP. By the way,
Terry Francona just told reporters that Chase Burns, who was
not good last night, call it what it is. He

(20:48):
has been awesome this year. We love Chase Burns and
I asked this all the time. How good is you're good?
How bad as you're bad? If that's Chase Burns is bad,
sign me up for that. He will be avail able
to pitch Tuesday in the All Star Game. Reds are
giving him maximum resc going into and coming out of
the break. Reading from Mike Petrellia on on social media,

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TJ Friedel gets the start in centerfield. Mad McClain is
not in the lineup in centerfield against a lefty due
to having a sore calf. Tj is feeling sore from
banging his shoulder into the center field while wile making
that awesome catch last night, but good enough to go tonight.
Your starting lineup for this evening? Are you ready? Stand by?

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I will have a lot of tabs open. I'm looking
at my computer. I currently have looks like twenty different
tabs open, but I found the right one. By the way,
it's Brady Singer versus Hesus Lezardo Dela Cruz. Stuart Bladet,
who's in left, steers at first forrez DH Stevenson behind
the dish, Marte and Wright Arroyo at second, Friedel in centerfield.

(21:54):
Seven to ten. Tonight's first pitch seven hundred a WLW
Florence YA take on the Washington Wild Things. Tonight you
see at Ohio State and Xavier and Dayton will play
in the first ever outdoor college basketball experience in Cincinnati.
It's the care Source Invitational Wednesday, October the seventh two

(22:15):
exhibition games UCSU, XU, and UD. The event raises awareness
and funds for mental health and suicide prevention. Keithan Nickison
has been busy today Bearcat journal dot com. He reports
UC in Minnesota set to play a home and home
men's basketball series starting this upcoming season.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
MJ.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Collins gonna play for the Bearcats this year. Preliminary injunction
by a judge here in Cincinnati gives him and other
student athletes the chance to play college sports this year.
So MJ. Collins, who led Utah State in scoring, is
going to play for his coach at Utah State at
UC that's good. France and Morocco are playing in the

(22:55):
quarterfinals of the World Cup right now in Foxborough. That
game is scoreless in the thirty fifth minute. We normally
do this on Wednesdays, but I wasn't here yesterday, so
we're doing it on Thursday. Why is money sports? With
the experts from Omego Wealth Private Capital, we talk sports
and business and it is impossible to talk about sports

(23:17):
without talking about sports and business. Brad Johansson is here.
Want to start by talking about your favorite subject, the
World Cup, because you know, we all watched this whole
Balligan controversy unfold and at the root of it, for me,
I think was the frustration over a lack of transparency
by FIFA, the governing organization that puts on the World Cup.

(23:37):
And I would imagine you would agree. But in business
and in life, transparency is pretty damn important.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
I am with you on that. And what are the rules?
Doesn't everybody just want to know what are the rules?

Speaker 5 (23:54):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Huh?

Speaker 7 (23:56):
So what are the rules?

Speaker 4 (23:56):
When the red card came out, that's a guy who
looks at video and he goes, you know what, this
is worth? A red card and everybody commentating goes, this
is not worth it. I don't believe this is worth
a red card. Okay, so how do you determine what
that is? Do you believe that we have more definition

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on flagrant fouls in the NBA then we do any
type of foul in soccer from what I've watched, Like, yes,
it's hard. So the thing is you don't know what
the rules are, so it's given. Then you go back
and by all indications, the US government got involved in
saying we were going to do an appeal on this

(24:39):
red card, and by doing that, without understanding explanation, they go,
all right, we're revoking the red card.

Speaker 7 (24:48):
You're good to play.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
There's no rules, no rules, no transparency, and I think
there's a major problem within soccer that you can play
the game. There's no rules on the time. It's in
his head as to how long the game's going to go,
how much extra time you have, whether this is indicative

(25:12):
of a yellow card or a red card, and how
we're going to adjudicate that after we're done with the
whole thing. It's it's silly. If you don't have rules,
you're not transparent about what you are and you don't
explain your actions. How are you supposed to trust the
way that it goes? Yeah, and I have the same

(25:33):
issues in finance.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Right if you're investing, you got to know the rules.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
You have to know the rules, but understand that the
rules are going to change again because we have the government,
and the government likes to change the rules whenever they
want to change it.

Speaker 7 (25:48):
So you play with the rules that you have now.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
And that's why you align yourself with an expert like
yourself who knows the rules, because.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
He knows the rules and understands that the rules are
going to change. And here's what I do. I like
to align myself with people who are smarter than me
and make sure that because we don't have all the answers,
but you always know where to find all the answers.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
I also like to align myself with people who are
smarter than me, and that takes absolutely no effort. I
want to ask you about this story. Is weird to me?
This Matt Miller, guy ESPN rising star, NFL draft analyst
involved in this awful car accident. His family puts up
a go fund me and then a lot of folks
on social media respond to it and go, well, this
is the guy that took money from me when I

(26:33):
played his fantasy football league. It's a long, convoluted story,
but my first thought when I saw this was, I
don't know, man, if I'm going to give somebody money,
I want to make sure I know A where the
money is going. And B definitively how I get what
I'm owed If I'm owed something, no question.

Speaker 7 (26:50):
And yet over and over people do this. You want
to go Bernie made off?

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yeah, and Bernie and ends up creating an infrastructure of
well known people. And it's just, Oh, I got a guy.
You want to give him some money? How much did
you give him?

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (27:13):
I gave him several million? Really, what do you know
about him? Good guy?

Speaker 7 (27:18):
All right, put me down for three million.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
It's silly, but people will do this, and I think
you need to ask advisors.

Speaker 7 (27:26):
Shoot.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
I mean you're now saying this with me because here
I am in wealth management and I'm the guy on TV.
There's that guy on TV, there's that guy on the radio,
And how much do I trust that guy with my money?
I'll go back to what I just said. You align
yourself with people who are smarter than you and understand that.

(27:49):
As I told you, I think there's a lot of
hypocrisy in the journalism business now, which is why partly
I walked away. And you have to understand that if
you're going to be in this business, you're really not allowed. Oobs,
I made a million dollar mistake. You have to understand
what the rules are, have to be licensed, have to

(28:11):
understand how that works, and make sure that you double
triple check what you're going to do, triple check yes,
speaking of money on the line.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
So we've talked about this a little bit. We're gonna
have a lockout in baseball and hold it.

Speaker 7 (28:23):
Yeah, you're definitive on this.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
We're gonna have a lockout. I didn't say we're gonna
miss games, but we're gonna have a lockout.

Speaker 7 (28:29):
Why do you say that?

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Because the two sides could not seem farther apart, and I.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Dude, we've seen how many of these things have we seen?
They've never been farther apart. And twelve hours later, oh
my gosh, we've come up with But I mean, you're
convinced we're gonna have a lockout.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
I'm convinced we will have a lockout. I'm not entirely
convinced we're gonna see games get missed. I mean we
had a lockout in twenty twenty two. Yeah, they played
the full season. So I mean there's a difference between
a lockout and a shortened season or canceled.

Speaker 7 (28:59):
You think we'll have a shortened season.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
I think there's obviously a really good chance because I
think there's a different resolve among owners than we've seen
in the past, because I feel like now they're all
angry at the Dodgers, and I also feel like I
feel like, yes they are. You have compared to ninety four,
ninety four, ninety five, you had baseball owners have people
who own baseball teams, and that's.

Speaker 7 (29:19):
A completely different game.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Ninety and now you have baseball owners who own like casinos, hotels,
huge portfolios. So they're a little bit more willing to
withstand some baseball losses because they're Yes. So I do
think we're headed to a lockout.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Okay, come on, I'm sorry, I digressed and I stopped
you in the middle of your point.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
So what's interesting to me, and I've talked about this
a bunch, is all right, if you're the owners, you're
trying to gain a salary cap, and if you're the players,
we don't want the salary cap. We all know what
the major issue is, and so they're going to dig
in and try to get it for maybe some sort
of long term benefit. But the short term cost I
think is immense.

Speaker 7 (29:57):
I think the short term cost is immense. More on.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
It's certainly on players who are simply trying to survive.
And I know that sounds silly in the major leagues,
but there are a lot of guys who are still
trying to survive. In the major leagues, you have stars
who have massive contracts. But then beyond that, you have
the fans situation, where we've already talked about how hard

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it is in markets like Cincinnati to sell out games
throughout the season, so you are now offending fans and
the ninety four situation I remember, and I still know
people when you talk stubborn, I will never watch baseball

(30:43):
again after this, and there are some who have stood
by that. I think you are hurting the product because
of how hard it is. And you and I have
talked about is one hundred and sixty two games too many?
Have we figured out whether or not we can condense
and still make the money that we want to make. Yeah,
you're you're gonna have a very long term consequence if

(31:08):
you do this, because the average Joe in the middle
of this economic situation says, I'm not paying you anymore
to go watch your product.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, one more to ask you about the Big twelve. Okay,
So they've struck this deal with Monster Energy. Twenty million dollars.
We're gonna have jersey patches, which I hate, but whatever.
We have them in Pro sports twenty million dollars. I
hate them, but anyway, fine, twenty million dollars. Sixteen schools,
and if you see what Monster is gonna get, they're

(31:37):
gonna get logos on the jerseys, logos on the fields. Uh,
they're gonna have patches on basketball jerseys, both men and women.
They're gonna have an on field logo for all the
football program We're talking about forty eight different programs, men's basketball,
women's basketball, and football. Twenty million dollars doesn't it's a
lot of money. Cheap, but it doesn't seem like a

(31:58):
lot of money relative to what Monster is going to get.

Speaker 7 (32:01):
Yeah, cheap.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
You spend forty years getting to a number you want
to build your retirement. Some people spend even longer than that,
and then you sell yourself short. This may be a
sell yourself short kind of moment because this is really
valuable real estate. Now here's part of my question. If

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you're spending twenty million on the Big Twelve, and I'm
going to ask you, how secure do you think the
Big twelve is as a viable entity for the long
term of a conference?

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Define long term?

Speaker 4 (32:41):
Well, I'm glad you come back with that, because now
you make me think in ten years, do we have
the Big twelve?

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Very good question. I don't know. I don't feel good.

Speaker 7 (32:56):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
I don't feel good about saying definitively yes.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
So if we have talked about another segments that dukes
and notre dames can do their own thing and say,
screw the conference or screw the network. I'm going to
do my own deal because that's my power. Does the

(33:20):
Big twelve have enough power to say I want more
than twenty million? And obviously they didn't feel like they
had a product that they could sell for more than
twenty million. And you're right, it's a big number, but
in today's sports world, a small number which says to me.
I'm not convinced we're going to stay together long enough.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
It's a good way of putting it. It's less than
two million dollars per school. I mean again, it's a
lot of money.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
But believe in yourself. A product's worth what people will
pay for it.

Speaker 7 (33:54):
And so.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Do you believe that the Big twelve said I want
thirty million, and monsters sitting Oh, I'll forget it. Twenty
million and that's it because that's what they're getting. Is
that enough to build a product that you believe is
going to last?

Speaker 7 (34:11):
I don't know the answer to that.

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